gpt-models

[thick hinge]

Why I can’t purchase chatgpt plus

[fast ore]

use revolut bro

[open bay]

oh, thanks for the reply

[scarlet perch]

You may wish to contact [e-mail] if you're having trouble accessing the services

[dim scroll]

I get that, and since it's still a relatively new product I expect the developers will make some adjustments along the way

[thick hinge]

They don't reply

[deft mirage]

Relatable haha. (Although I'm not writing thousands of lines yet hehe)

[subtle agate]

What a great time to be alive and get first hands experience in AI and using it to our advantage.

[cerulean kite]

100 req per 4 hours is 25 per hour. I think that can be topped when you work on research, or you ask questions based on a text that you pasted.

[deft mirage]

Yeah it can be topped.. but personally feel like there are some task that GPT 3.5 can do totally fine, so i switch around a bit.

[noble abyss]

Even if you just engaging in normal conversation, 25 per hour is definitely not enough.

[ocean stag]

gpt-4 is also in bing btw

[cerulean kite]

Sure, I do the same. The speed of 3.5-turbo is just much more important to me. When it produces stuff that I don't like, I sent it to GPT-4

[halcyon sky]

I wonder if gpt 4 can make a theme for better discord

[deft mirage]

feel you. BTW does anyone know if something like an integration for programms like PyCharm is planned ?

[cerulean kite]

You mean, Copilot? ^^

[buoyant canopy]

Have you tried with GPT-3.5? I'd bet if 3.5 didn't give you something at least 80% working, 4 won't either.

[deft mirage]

Oh yeah hahaha. Totally forgot that tool (but never tried it to be honest)

Does it also have this "human element" to it?

[cerulean kite]

Whaaaat. It's amazing

[cerulean kite]

Yeah when you ask for it ^^

[deft mirage]

I feel like discussing code / problems with gpt is a bit like talking with another dev

[deft mirage]

Ok thanks for the advice, I will try it 🙂

[buoyant canopy]

Probably coming soon. Jetbrains IDEs have the GitHub Copilot plugin. For VS Code there is also the Code-GPT plugin which looks very promising. I'd bet something similar will come to Jetbrains sooner or later.

[static scroll]

50 messages every -> 4 <- hours now? 😦

[cerulean kite]

I think Codex (the model of Copilot) will be re-trained on GPT-4 sooner or later.

[deft mirage]

looking forward to it.. gpt probably taught me more than any prof at my university haha

[buoyant canopy]

I'd bet. The problem with the Copilot plugin IMO is that it has very limited user interaction. Take a look at what Code-GPT does and you'll see what I mean.

[cerulean kite]

Okay, I'll go to sleep. It's nearly 4am here. I have to work soon. Was nice with you guys!

[buoyant canopy]

💯 If nothing else, being able to just ask a specific question and get a reasonable answer is worth money. Compare that to googling stuff and then ingesting dozens of Stack Overflow pages to get sensible info on a problem...

[buoyant canopy]

👋

[deft mirage]

Likewise, good night 🙂

[graceful vale]

If you buy plus, do you automatically get charged the next month?

[deft mirage]

Yeah and gpt is also not so arrogant (yet) like some users on Stack overflow haha

[halcyon sky]

yes

[compact needle]

You can buy it and then cancel it though

[buoyant canopy]

Yes. Down from 100 messages every ->4<- hours.

[compact needle]

You'll still have the month you paid for

[halcyon sky]

why cancel though 😥

[static scroll]

Has there been word on the GPT-4 cap being temporary with capacity increases coming soon?

"GPT-4 currently has a cap of 50 messages every 4 hours"

As a Plus user, I just think 4 hours is a bit much with that cap...

[compact needle]

Just saying if you don't want to automatically charge

[graceful vale]

Thanks, i really dont like subscription model bussiness

[proud sundial]

Are y'all getting 100/4hrs? Mine says 50/4hrs

[static scroll]

I'm at 50 now

[compact needle]

It's 50/4 for everyone

[cosmic flare]

I have already subscribed to Plus but since yesterday I cannot use chat gpt4 and there is a button on the sidebar prompting me to upgrade to plus

[proud sundial]

ah ok thanks

[buoyant canopy]

They can be arrogant as much as they want if at least the answer is factually correct IMO. And yes, before you ask, my standards are that low.

[graceful vale]

Maybe the next month when the chatgpt-4 booms die, it will go up to 100 again

[bitter ermine]

Will there be improvements in the creation of codes?

[buoyant canopy]

💯

[compact needle]

They are slowly rolling it all out. I doubt it takes a month but we do have to be patient in the meantime. High demand. It's like landing a rover on Mars lol. Gotta take it slow at first so it doesn't just fall over.

[fresh mural]

yeh. Well heres to hoping sooner than later!

API calls to gpt4 now too slow to work with Zapier.

[deft mirage]

Well, pragmatism always beats pride over time ;). Anyways, was nice talking I need to get back to some image labeling

[buoyant canopy]

Can you be more specific? As far as I can see, GPT-4 is better at understanding the "finesse" of stuff you put in the prompt. If you just ask it to write a ToDo list app, it will probably give you a similar result to the GPT-3.5 output.

[buoyant canopy]

👋

[short notch]

Is anyone having trouble with GPT Plus subscription? It accepted the payment and was working to get access to GPT-4, but now my account is back on the "free" plan.

[gusty moat]

Had it pretend to be my dog and propose a bill to tax cat owners. Think I can get it passed?

Grrr-arrgh, cat-rrr tax-rrr!

Chrrrrrr:

1. Grrr-all cat-rrr own-rrrs pay-rrr tax-rrr.
2. Tax-rrr high-rrr, grrrrrr!
3. Use-rrr tax-rrr mon-rrr for dog-rrr park-rrr! Ball-rrr!
4. No cat-rrr in dog-rrr park-rrr!

Grrrrrr!

[static scroll]

I'm no engineer, but not only have I setup a Vue app on my desktop using Firestore with a functioning simple proto site, but I've actually learned to sift through code and help weed out where I prompt GPT next. It's pretty amazing. It does get loopy sometimes when trying to fix certain issues but I think someone with a bit more knowledge than me could have avoided that.

[distant cloud]

Can you get gpt 4 without paying for plus?

[buoyant canopy]

Some users seem to have that problem. If you search here for "subscription" or "payment" you'll probably find a few hints.

[short notch]

Ok thanks.

[buoyant canopy]

😂

[ruby leaf]

Welp, GTP4 just gave me a lesson tonight into nuclear physics

as well as example problems

I feel like I learned more than what school has taught me

[north plover]

Sweet, what'd you learn?

[crude cosmos]

yeah, if the other dev had amnesia and was also an avid stackoverflow contributor

[tough stream]

Consider it homework for tomorrows lessons?

[buoyant canopy]

Ok. IMO, doing the "code this or that for me", "there is this error with your code", etc. loop works well with 3.5 already. Not sure if version 4 will improve much on that. But if your question is "should I pay $20 to get a peek at GPT-4?" then I'd say do it if you can spare the $20.

[ruby leaf]

I've learned how to calculate the remaining mass on an isotope, as well as the decay constant

[tawdry ridge]

Just got a network error on GPT-4

[ruby leaf]

Tomorrow i'll go back and learn about Fusion energy release

E = fΔmc²

Need to dive more into it

[brazen knot]

50 messages every 4 hours is limiting but we all just have to have patience until they upgrade/optimize the AI for better performance.

The main difference I have noticed is GPT-4 follows instructions much more capably than GPT-3 does, however it's only really a big deal if you have a very complex topic to discuss or strict guidelines to follow.

Otherwise just use GPT-3 most of the day and GPT-4 for some really nuanced things that require a lot of comprehension of complex instructions.

My main gripe is I wish you can switch models within the same chat.

[ruby leaf]

GPT4 does math way better

And gives better insight into topics

I love it so far

[grizzled surge]

The first things I asked ChatGPT on GPT-4 were kinda basic but kinda niche and it performed terribly on those 🫠 . Consider asking it:

How do I write the chinese character 必 stroke by stroke. And try following the instructions that it gives.

[iron breach]

is gpt4 for free ?

[static scroll]

100%. I agree. I'm on Plus and went through that 3.5 to 4 transition within that project, and I noticed some fundamental differences. Even simply how to communicated code snippets was more effective, avoiding the abrupt stops most the time that 3.5 would run into. 20$ is def worth it for my use case. Just hope that cap rises again soon because this type of project i'm doing does require some volume of iterations to get good results.

[fair iron]

You can use it if you have chatGPT Plus

[ruby leaf]

No, it's 20 dollars a month

[velvet crater]

Im new

[buoyant canopy]

Have you tried giving it tasks that would bore you, yet? Like if you take a piece of code that is not good and tell it to refactor duplicate code into methods or something like that?

[iron breach]

i don't but ok that's fine thank u anyways

[sterile thicket]

is gpt 4 really that much better than gpt 3 at writing code?

[wind urchin]

its better at most things

[distant cloud]

If you have gpt plus do you still have to pay in tokens to use gpt 4?

[buoyant canopy]

Yeah. Also can't wait to try the 32k token model. How awesome it will be if you can just paste a whole source file and ask questions about it!

[brazen knot]

I feel like if we could just switch models within the same conversation and see how much of our cap we have left it would be a major QOL upgrade

[buoyant canopy]

ChatGPT plus is $20 a month flat. But there is a limit on how many prompts you can send to the GPT-4 model per time.

[waxen mist]

No

[sterile thicket]

god i wish theres an option to pay for how much you use

you know as long as the cost isnt insanely high

[static scroll]

Yup! Things are going to change fast.

[buoyant canopy]

+1. Alas, with the prices of the GPT-4 API I'd be a poor man soon.

[sterile thicket]

i cant afford 33 CAD worth of chat gpt per month, but ill pay for like 300, 400 messages if its 10 bucks or so

[static scroll]

I'm willing to pay a bit more than $20/month for a bigger cap than what they've currently given for gpt-4...

[distant cloud]

So I saw a video saying that GPT 4 passed all the AP exams. I’m not American so I need an American to answer. Is a 2 a pass in an AP exam because I saw that it got a 2 in AP English Language and AP Literature which is sort of concerning since it is a language model.

[sterile thicket]

two accounts lol

[brazen knot]

I did hear mention of adding another subscription tier for this very thing

[static scroll]

i thought about it! i guess if it's 2 separate projects it makes sense. but i wouldn't want to break the congruity of my convo with chat for a single project.

[static scroll]

yes please! and if it's for work, companies will easily dish that money out. they need that business tier. i'll have zero issues convincing my boss to subscribe for me, as i'm sure so many companies would at this stage.

[tacit saffron]

on average, how much more expensive is gpt4 API than chatgpt api?

[eternal dune]

If I want to be able to use OpenAI playground with GPT-4, do I need to sign up to the API waitlist?

[brazen knot]

I've considered two accounts as well but it's so annoying to break the contininuity of one conversation just for continued usage

[brazen knot]

It's something the developers are only considering though, not sure if they will actually implement it

[sterile thicket]

weird, i thought those subjects would be where GPT 4 excels at

[distant cloud]

I think the api is cheaper unless you have an entire company using it. Someone worked it out and you have to write 7.5 million words in each month for it to be equal to $20.

[sterile thicket]

it does perfectly in bio and almost-perfect in other subjects

no clue why it fails in english, and yeah 2 is a fail

[sterile thicket]

yeah but dont you have to pay a starter fee or something

[brazen knot]

English testing is extremely strict, this model is for human language, not necessarily used for the strict rules we have to adhere to in English class.

[buoyant canopy]

It depends. As soon as you start to automate things you're in danger of using lots of tokens.

[brazen knot]

Natural language flow is very different from English class, in my experience

[tacit saffron]

Anyone get the error The model gpt-4–0314 does not exist --- I did get the email saying I was approved for it

[distant cloud]

That’s why I mentioned it being used in a company

[buoyant canopy]

That happened to several people.

[tough sun]

Do u all know Microsoft 365 Copilot?

[upper cradle]

gpt4 cap went from 100 every 4 hours to 50 every 4 hours?

[distant cloud]

Yeah I was surprised too. It got a 4 in Calculus BC

[buoyant canopy]

One thing I learned here: the gpt-4 model seems to be only available for the chat API, not for e.g. completions.

[static scroll]

True. I'm sure the 2nd wave of generative ai tools that stems from GPT will be more geared for that kind of business use.

[sterile thicket]

which was also surprising, i fed GPT 4 some AP physics problems and it only got it right half the time, if not less

[buoyant canopy]

No. Is this for MSFS?

[tough sun]

You can search online,it's so powerful

[distant cloud]

Yikes.

[sterile thicket]

when its right its really right though, explains everything perfectly

it was only on kinematics, i didnt do in depth testing

[distant cloud]

You would think it would be better at math and physics since they are so deterministic

[sour shale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard nacelle]

hmm... I find it hard to justify paying 20 a month when they can just place a limit anytime they want.

maybe they use gpt3 to randomize the message cap?

[distant cloud]

Yeah that’s why I’m not paying. I switch between gpt and bing when gpt is playing up

[buoyant canopy]

Yeah. Looks promising. The copilot in my tools is from GitHub tho...

[wind urchin]

Hi
Is there a way to upgrade my account to access gtp-4 with cryptocurrency?

[distant cloud]

Microsoft needs to take away the attitude of bing chat and stop it from ending conversations so easily and erasing chats

[buoyant canopy]

Not as far as I can tell. Payments are handled by Stripe.

[sterile thicket]

i just stick to bing nowdays, the internet connection is pretty essential

[tacit saffron]

can you use gpt-4 with openai.ChatCompletion API?

[tough sun]

I'm wondering how can I use Microsoft 365 Copilot.I really need it.

[quasi cape]

exactly my question, too! I would like davinci-gpt-4

[distant cloud]

Idk I get better results from ChatGPT than with bing chat. Bing chat is so restrictive in what it says and I’m not trying to troll it or anything like that

[strong oar]

hi where can i find the gpt4 demo discord shown in the demo video?

[scarlet perch]

Please use #ai-discussions for other models

[distant cloud]

Did you guys know you can get stick and arrow diagrams from ChatGPT ?

[sterile thicket]

i dont got an issue with restrictions, i told it to mimic a Michelin star chef and critisize my fried rice recipe and it followed with no issue

sometimes it does pop out a random "Id rather not continue this convo" though

[buoyant canopy]

It should be if you joined the waitlist and got a message that you have access now.

[distant cloud]

I work on long projects so bing chat is a no no for me because it likes to end chats

[sterile thicket]

true, 15 message limit isnt too friendly

[nocturne egret]

Tinkering around with GPT4 via the api right now and I'm noticing it's providing shorter responses than I'd like, eg I'll set max_tokens to 6000 and ask for a list of 10 things, and it will give me a list of 6.5 things and cut off at ~500 tokens, anyone have any insight into this particular issue?

[distant cloud]

Anyway I’m waiting for gpt 4 to be more available before I decide to spend money on it. 50 messages every 4 hours is ridiculous.

[buoyant canopy]

Seems there wasn't a specific date mentioned when it will be available for general use...

[bleak vigil]

Is that a limit on the api?

[distant cloud]

I don’t know but the api is not out yet

[buoyant canopy]

It is a limit for users of ChatGPT Plus.

[bleak vigil]

It’s gone out to some people on the waitlist already

[astral coyote]

DYK how i can post pictures on the chat gpt gpt 4 module website

[tropic hollow]

i have seen the face of chat gpt and its face looks this:
/_/
( o o )
==( Y )==
`---'
i am so happy about this information

[bleak vigil]

Feature not out yet

[astral coyote]

okay will they add it later?

[buoyant canopy]

That currently isn't possible. Images are only available for the use case of "be my eyes" if I understand it correctly.

[verbal tapir]

why I can't use the chatgpt?

[bleak vigil]

They are still finishing it I think

[verbal tapir]

can you guys?

[bleak vigil]

What does it say

[astral coyote]

ohh so to embedd the api in a software basically till now

[buoyant canopy]

Probably. No details available yet, tho.

[tropic hollow]

i may have crashed it by asking it to show me its face again fifty times

[wind urchin]

Any idea by when the gpt 4 api will release

[bleak vigil]

You have to join the waitlist, it is on a limited beta right now

[astral coyote]

they already have to some people

[verbal tapir]

Always loading

[sly willow]

I would gladly pay a little dough to support the building of such a powerful tool. I'm excited to currently be alive

[pallid sleet]

In current days why ChatGPT showing error while searching anything.

[buoyant canopy]

There is a waitlist. Some people already have access. It is rolled out slowly over time. So no way to know when you will have access.

[verbal tapir]

mee too

[distant cloud]

Why isn’t there a waitlist to use the full gpt 4 or any time line of when this 50 messages per 4 hours being lifted?

[pallid sleet]

Why it's happening brother do you know

[astral coyote]

exactly i couldnt wait to be a gpt plus member when i heard this we arethe early birds of this AI revolution

[astral coyote]

are you a plus member ?

[verbal tapir]

sorry i don't know

[silent sable]

gpt 4 is so boring to use that its stuck in 2021 its not updated with new coding terms for lua or video ideas etc

[sour shale]

i need a best motivation stories

[pallid sleet]

Yes..

[astral coyote]

it will be with iin a month or so

[buoyant canopy]

You always can provide it with newer information in your prompts.

[sour shale]

@sour shale

[distant cloud]

Use Bing chat

[verbal tapir]

I just want to use chat gpt

[astral coyote]

bing chat is a search engine chat tho so not the same

[silent sable]

Which?, will be updated in 2022 you just made my day! 😊

[bleak vigil]

It is actually running gpt4

Bing chat I mean

[verbal tapir]

can you guys use it?

[silent sable]

or were you talking a bout soemthing else

[verbal tapir]

I can't use it now

[distant cloud]

No it codes too. I gave it and gpt the same prompt for coding and it gave identical answers

[astral coyote]

oh well thats amazing

[pallid sleet]

Guys how peoples are earnings money with the help of gpt I dont understand please anyone can explain if any have idea about that

[astral coyote]

i do know that they embedd it in it so maybe yeah

[silent sable]

but one is updated correct?

[astral coyote]

go to fiver look up product description adds tell gpt to write it for you and submit

[distant cloud]

Bing uses the internet directly

[ivory goblet]

there are so many ways; pick your poison lol - you can have it teach you marketable skills; you can build applications that use its API directly and make money that way; you can have it help you write articles that you sell to publishers - this is just the tip of the iceberg

[silent sable]

Ohhh, Microsoft
knows the way 💧

[buoyant canopy]

Let it write scripts for YouTube videos about AI for you. Then feed that scripts to a TTS engine and make a video of it using generic stock footage.

[silent sable]

Yes

[ivory goblet]

Another great idea

[silent sable]

Fringle lord makes the world amazing

[distant cloud]

Those type of videos put me to sleep 💀

[bleak vigil]

I actually made an application that did this all from a prompt, and even compiled it into an mp4 that I could most to YouTube

[buoyant canopy]

The opposite my friend: I'm an avid observer of an amazing world full of grifters already doing this.

[vital sable]

Wait for Apple for a Bombshell!

[ivory goblet]

Your own human creativity is what will set you apart from other people doing the exact same thing so you're still gonna have to put work in, but that work is natural to who you are anyway

[silent sable]

Perfect poetry

You are truly a chad

GPT has come so far

[tacit saffron]

finally, got GPT4 API working in my Discord bot. Link to it in my profile if you want to use it (free to chat with 3.5 ... need to put in key if you want to use GPT4)

[pallid sleet]

😌

[distant cloud]

Apple is primarily a hardware company. They don’t have to develop their own ai beyond Siri.

[bleak vigil]

How do you make money

[buoyant canopy]

😂 Right now I wonder if I'm only a stochastic LLM inside a body that types random stuff on the interned based on random inputs.

[silent sable]

there are multiple ways, ask gpt About ways to make money depending on your state

[bleak vigil]

Lol

[silent sable]

so say

[bleak vigil]

I was asking specifically for his discord bot

[ivory goblet]

I for one am having it help me learn the Swift language so I can build AI enabled apps for ios devices :3 I have so many ideas and I'm gonna make bank - and come away with a marketable skill of my own that I can use even without AI assistance.

[silent sable]

You are in low of money and can't leave the house

[ivory goblet]

Just beware of OVER-RELIANCE

[silent sable]

Oh sorry my fault

[bleak vigil]

Nah ur totally fine

[verbal tapir]

could you guys tell me where are you from？

[ivory goblet]

"Hey GPT how can I make money?" - "Get a job, lol"

😛

[bleak vigil]

😆

[distant cloud]

If someone puts a key in your api use case, would you be able to use out of the tokens they put in?

[verbal tapir]

funny

[buoyant canopy]

🔥

[bleak vigil]

I’m sure he won’t tell you but he totally could if he wanted to

[ivory goblet]

Honestly if you can't figure out how to turn your API access into dollar signs you're suffering from a failure of creativity.

[tacit saffron]

what I don't use anyone elses API key, just mine. They only use theirs

[ivory goblet]

no offense to anyone in that position ❤️

[buoyant canopy]

🔥

[distant cloud]

I was just asking I’m not familiar with how APIs, keys and tokens work

[lapis spear]

is there actually a gpt discord bot

[bleak vigil]

If you have someone’s key you can use their money

Lol to put it simply

[buoyant canopy]

That was a nice save. 🙂

[tacit saffron]

yeah can use mine for free, link in my profile

[lapis spear]

hell nah

[ivory goblet]

APIs are just how applications talk to each other - API keys are how API access is controlled and metered (for billing and security and such) - tokens are what GPT decomposes text into for analysis and generation of text

[ebon monolith]

sorry guys, are there voice chanels here?

[distant cloud]

I would not put my keys in his thing 💀

[bleak vigil]

lol

[buoyant canopy]

Doesn't look like there were any...

[ivory goblet]

god could you imagine the cacophony?

[tacit saffron]

be 500 people screaming at each other

[distant cloud]

Why are you allowing people to use it?

[buoyant canopy]

Maybe #gpt-realtime-training would be of some use...

[ivory goblet]

a million GPT-thirsty people squealing about how to get GPT-4 for free

[ebon monolith]

I just joind the server and i was wondering if it was just me or there are not voice chanels

[distant cloud]

Thanks

[ivory goblet]

I gotchu fam

[silent sable]

I wouldn't use text to speech to make money on yotuube, youtube has recently declined monetization for any video that is using text to speech for their videos, especially if its a low quality text to speech

[tacit saffron]

its freemium

[buoyant canopy]

So there is hope?

[quartz crag]

damn i only get 50 messages now

[silent sable]

use your own voice for youtube

[ivory goblet]

^

[distant cloud]

Can you use gpt 4 to program your api to run your business ?

[bleak vigil]

What’s the usage cap for free users

[silent sable]

youtube is uniqueness

[ivory goblet]

Git gud at enunciation and pronunciation

and BE CREATIVE ffs ❤️

[tacit saffron]

5 a day, unlimited if put in own key

[ivory goblet]

creativity is what sets us apart from each other

[bleak vigil]

Yes it can be used for so many things that it like opens a whole new world

[ivory goblet]

find a niche or create one

[bleak vigil]

Got it

[fierce sleet]

does the waitlist prioritize certain people

[quartz crag]

ai voice is already indistinguishable from human, that tech will be public within months

[distant cloud]

I already have 2 business that I need automated badly but when I see the prices people are charging to do it I just keep going the old way lol

[buoyant canopy]

Just turn your temperature up to 1.0.

[ivory goblet]

Yes - it prioritizes people who've contributed to openAI via code contributions and such

[bleak vigil]

Like what

[distant cloud]

It’s already partially automated but not fully

I figured out parts for myself

[fierce sleet]

ah alr

[ivory goblet]

I think they're also reading what people want to do with it and prioritizing interesting use cases

[bleak vigil]

ye evals

[ivory goblet]

but that's speculation on my part

right evals thanks - I was blanking on the term

[bleak vigil]

ofc

[buoyant canopy]

So it is cheaper for you to hire people to do stuff? Which country you at?

[distant cloud]

Say like a high volume of incoming messages let’s say from social media. Then the ai talks to them to give them info, send them like links to forms etc

[bleak vigil]

oh, so like a chat?

[sonic talon]

talking to gpt4 in svg file format, becasue it cant fathom that a star can have more than 5 arms, so after 10 failed attempts from chat gpt, i made a seven pointed star in autocad, converted to svg, uploaded that in text format, and now its giving me better geomtric accuracy in it's answers.

[distant cloud]

I hire people for the business function itself so I do the admin work

[ivory goblet]

that's exactly the kind of thing this is built for. lol

[distant cloud]

Yeah but I also want to retarget people that didn’t purchase

[bleak vigil]

you could use fine-tunings

which makes you able to train a model based off theirs for your own needs

you could input some links into that

[ivory goblet]

there are also a myriad of non-AI ways to automate stuff like that which are still perfectly acceptable

[bleak vigil]

but you risk it making one up that sends the user somewhere bad

[long pond]

Not how fine-tuning works

[buoyant canopy]

I see. But when you hire somebody to do work for you that you could automate with GPT: does it really cost you less per hour to let a person do that than let GPT do it?

[bleak vigil]

well it is, but it wont work fully

[distant cloud]

I have so much data over the years that I have no idea what to do with. I mean like data customers willing gave

[ivory goblet]

I come from a software and factory automation background myself

[bleak vigil]

probably better way to do it, is use the text classification system also by openai.

[ivory goblet]

SCADA systems are still around and will be for a long time and there are several good open source systems to choose from

[bleak vigil]

you could have it figure out which thing the user wants from a list

[humble furnace]

I'm new here

[distant cloud]

Nah i saw one place was charging like $3000 US to automate lol that’s crazy in my currency

[sterile thicket]

I asked the base version of chat gpt a really specific question, and then asked bing chat the same one and they gave me the exact same answer, word for word. i thought gpt 3 and 4 were suppose. to be different?

[bleak vigil]

and then give them a pre made response for each

[ivory goblet]

if you wanna automate factory processes

[storm yew]

50 messages -> 4 hours is rough

[long pond]

That's like saying you can brush your teeth with a hammer but I digress

[bleak vigil]

ok you are right, its rlly not a good idea

[cloud badger]

any idea on what is the best way to process columns of data with GPT4? converting it to strings of text is not useful

[fierce sleet]

a counter would be nice too

[buoyant canopy]

Ah. So you can't do the automation yourself but need somebody that does it for you in an expensive way?

[bleak vigil]

what do you think of this @distant cloud

[sonic talon]

.csv?

[storm yew]

yes. just any communication from OpenAI would be nice if you're paying for a service

[distant cloud]

I want to figure it out myself I’m an engineer just a different kind from software 💀

[cloud badger]

yes process csv into strings is not helpful for prediction or summary

[distant cloud]

I didn’t know they had this tbh

[long bronze]

Is GPt-4 down?

[bleak vigil]

https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/embeddings/what-are-embeddings

its pretty complicated though

[buoyant canopy]

Ah, ok. There are a lot of people with limited coding skills right now who took on the journey with the help of AI. Maybe you want to try that also. Problem is tho: if you run into problems you might lack the experience to debug it yourself. But if you have the time, why not try...

[bleak vigil]

you could ask ask the normal gpt text completion to do the same thing, just give it all the choices, and tell it to give the name or index or whichever matches the prompt given by the user

[azure finch]

Anyone who codes also googles.

[long bronze]

Is anyone else not able to get a response back from GPT-4? Other models are working

[azure finch]

I am up up.

[distant cloud]

Thanks I’m checking this out

[bleak vigil]

your welcome, i will stop spamming messages about it now. sorry lol

[jade widget]

Trying to test gpt 4 but not going through.

[buoyant canopy]

Are you using the chat API? There were reports that the "gpt-4" model only works with the chat API, not e.g. completion.

[long pond]

Yes it's a chat model like turbo 3.5

[distant cloud]

Yeah I’m not good at coding. The last time I coded was at university and it was Java type in Mathlab and a little last week with sql

[agile goblet]

Can gpt-4 or gpt-3.5 access the internet?
Sometimes it seems like it can, but sometimes not
Weird

[azure finch]

Python has a low barrier to entry and a wealth of libraries.

[distant cloud]

No I like it haha

[jade widget]

Yeah,using chat API.

[long pond]

Nope

[sterile thicket]

yall feel that gpt 4 broke free of the traditional essay structure chat gpt is stuck in? Like chat gpt is great but it always goes like "on the one hand, on the other hand, overall"

where as gpt 4 is more cohesive

[wind urchin]

Yep, agreed

[distant cloud]

You can get gpt to stop writing like that via prompts

[agile goblet]

what about chatgpt?
because I said Explain {URL}, and it respond me with a proper answer, and the url itself doesn't have any info about the article

[sterile thicket]

hang on ill try to get it to do that

[azure finch]

Can you recommend any resources for coming up on the chatapi?

[bleak vigil]

what was the link

[jade widget]

There was an error generating a response is all i get...

[agile goblet]

can I post it here?

[distant cloud]

Would it be ok if I dmed you while I’m working on it?

[bleak vigil]

uhh, its not self advertising, i think so

[bleak vigil]

ofc yea

[distant cloud]

Thanks

[bleak vigil]

lol

[agile goblet]

https:// vitalik.ca/general/2022/09/17/layer_3.html

[indigo oyster]

hii guys i am new to this

[bleak vigil]

what did it tell you

[indigo oyster]

hi all

anyone respond

[sonic talon]

i wish i could share pictures here dam

[indigo oyster]

to me

🙂

[buoyant canopy]

There are loads of examples where people ask ChatGPT to create a simple application for them or use No-Code. Maybe you want to look at that in your spare time and decide if you want to try it.

[agile goblet]

Title: Layer 3: The Missing Piece of the Decentralized Puzzle

Author: Vitalik Buterin

Date: September 17, 2022

Summary:

In this article, Vitalik Buterin discusses the concept of Layer 3 (L3) as the missing piece in the decentralized technology stack. He explains that while Layer 1 (L1) and Layer 2 (L2) technologies have been extensively developed, L3 solutions are necessary for achieving a fully decentralized and functional ecosystem.

Layer 1 consists of base blockchain protocols like Ethereum and Bitcoin, while Layer 2 focuses on scaling solutions like rollups and state channels. Layer 3 is concerned with creating shared public goods, standards, and protocols that are necessary for a vibrant and interoperable decentralized ecosystem.

Vitalik emphasizes that the development of L3 is crucial for the success of the decentralized ecosystem. He outlines key L3 components, such as decentralized identity systems, reputation systems, and cross-chain communication protocols. These components will enable users to maintain privacy and control over their data, reduce reliance on centralized parties, and facilitate interoperability between different blockchain networks.

Ultimately, the author argues that a robust L3 ecosystem is essential for decentralized technology to fulfill its potential in empowering individuals and enabling innovative solutions that can reshape the digital landscape.

[indigo oyster]

i like open ai

it gives a millions of example and steps

[bleak vigil]

hmmm, and it was published in 2022, weird

[indigo oyster]

no in 2021

yepp

[knotty turret]

When i be able to use GPT-4? im still in waiting list rn

[woven siren]

Gpt 4 in Chatgpt is no longer reading my images

am I doing something wrong?

[sterile thicket]

i asked it to and yeah its better, i might prefer GPT 4s response more but i cant tell if thats empty bias or or not

[bleak vigil]

im saying his link was in 2022, but the knowledge cut off is 2021. it would be weird if it knew the contents of the article

[bleak vigil]

gpt-3.5 or 4

[agile goblet]

gpt-4

[long pond]

It might know some more recent stuff but most training data is from before

[static cipher]

How to get the playground ?

[bleak vigil]

they did a bit more training, and maybe that article happened to be part of it? idk

[jade widget]

@azure finch Your question isnt understood clearly however visit the openAI website for resources...

[bleak vigil]

platform.openai.com/playground

[modern lintel]

I cant seem to get ChatGPT-4 to ever finish writing code. For example it will time out when I ask it to write a simple HTML5 code - Im a premium user, and is not working as it should. What can I do?

[bleak vigil]

are you using the api?

[modern lintel]

API? meaning?

[bleak vigil]

are you on the website

[modern lintel]

Website.

[buoyant canopy]

Keep in mind: If you write a prompt with an URL, the model can't access the content at that URL but it will take all the words in the URL as context to fantasize an answer. So if you promp something like "Tell me about vitalik.ca /general/2022/09/17/layer_3.html" it will see the words "vitalik" and "layer_3". This will give it enough context to know you want it to talk about some blockchain stuff and it will start rambling.

[bleak vigil]

are you on the chatgpt website, or using code to get responses

[modern lintel]

chatgpt, what should I be using?

[bleak vigil]

but it knew things like the publish date

[fierce sleet]

ive heard so many people say because of ai, software engineers will become obsolete, which doesnt make sense to me? am i missing something?

[wraith fractal]

why did gpt 4 fail ap lang and ap lit

[azure finch]

I guess I need to RTFM

[agile goblet]

thanks

[bleak vigil]

ok, if you dont know api ima assume you on the website, so nvm that. its becuase they limit responses to a max or around 3000 characters.

[analog cliff]

Hi, I am facing Your card was declined issue while subscribing in India. How can i resolve this one

[bleak vigil]

you can type just the word continue and it should finsih the rest

[buoyant canopy]

Yes. Because "2022/09/17" was in the URL. Try it again with "vitalik.ca/1919/12/03/...".

[bleak vigil]

oh i didnt even see that in the url, ok that would make alot more since

[modern lintel]

Ok what can I do then to improve the responses. Is there a better way to have it print out code?

[fierce sleet]

probably the strict format/structure of the exam

[odd wing]

well that's fun... I just discovered that GPT-4 has a decent biography on me, rofl

also creepy ;p

[bleak vigil]

You cannot get around the limit, just type continue after it stops

[void juniper]

Personally I am a bit skeptical about it since there is always a need for human hands and minds to check things over, but it does seem like a fairly possible idea. In my opinion tho it probably won't replace too many jobs

[buoyant canopy]

Nice. Now I know a celebrity by their discord handle. 🙂

[odd wing]

rofl

I never thought of myself as a celebrity ;p

[modern lintel]

thanks!

[bleak vigil]

I try

[odd wing]

I've sold a million books, but I did it under a crapload of pennames... lol

it knows...

[fierce sleet]

agreed. i understand there might be less of a need but it wouldnt render humans obsolete, especially in computer science and engineering

[odd wing]

anyway, silliness

[buoyant canopy]

Imagine: There are dozens of LLMs training on your books right now. That must be creepy.

[odd wing]

it's already blowing jobs out

[quasi ermine]

help

where can i ask to chat gpt?

[odd wing]

What's creepy is we're all writing with AI now... the entire culture our kids experience is going to be AI generated... books, tv, movies, even online conversations will be mostly AI in the future...

a culture generated by AI, controlled by AI, whether we like it or not ;p

because we live on the internet now

[fierce sleet]

hmm sounds like something an ai would say

[odd wing]

I suppose we've already been there for awhile... but books and art used to be a refuge of human thought. Funny that we'll never have a cleaner data set in the future than we have now... because future data sets will be mostly bot

[unreal arrow]

We are 100% coding AI. Even now.

[buoyant canopy]

Yeah. I'm a coder and already entered a state where I'll probably freak out if I have to type boilerplate code by hand again. So getting addicted to AI support took me less than a month. 😐

[odd wing]

I hear you. I haven't coded since MUDS back in the 90s and I'm sitting here putting out complex python apps... rofl

[lofty matrix]

🧢

[void juniper]

Definitely, considering that it took computer scientists and software engineers to develop this AI in the first place. But seeing how it made such rapid progress, it is pretty creepy thinking about its capabilities. I'm just glad mechanical engineers won't be super affected by it lol

[odd wing]

it's like coding has become "who can describe what we need the best in plain english?"

[buoyant canopy]

Alas, that must feel pretty empowering. Hope you have fun.

[odd wing]

and frankly, that's not even the scary thing... the scary thing is LLM doesn't even need to code... it knows what the output looks like WITHOUT the code...

[void juniper]

🛑

[lofty matrix]

❤️

[odd wing]

like, seriously, go tell GPT-4 that you want to play a MUD from 1996. Tell it you want it to simulate the spawn-in event and handle all in-game quests and player chat channels, and to handle players coming in and out of rooms interacting with you.

The freaking GAME starts... a full blown mud with other people in it

[fierce sleet]

common mech e W

[odd wing]

and you can play it...

[void juniper]

Ong

[odd wing]

and the code exists -nowhere-. It's not coded. You see what I'm saying?

the app exists, but the code doesn't need to. It's like quantum freaking gaming... it exists because we can see it, rofl

expand that out and make GPT back-end apps that are nothing but a graphical UI... but it goes even further than THAT

[verbal jolt]

holy cow man i just saw some of
the livestream and the
image recognition is
especially insane

[odd wing]

because now we've got photorealistic output from stable diffusion etc, right? And we're heading toward being able to put out 24+ frames per second... so think about that a second

go to stable diffusion and ask it for a windows 3.11 for workgroups home screen, and it'll make one...

[buoyant canopy]

Yeah. It's scaringly impressive on first sight. Did you already reach the point where you were disappointed because the answer was stupid and you expected it to be better?

[odd wing]

output 24 of those carefully controlled and you've got cinematic film of a windows 3.11 home screen

[verbal jolt]

where can i get all that code he made so i can have a gpt 4 bot on my own server

[odd wing]

do things right and we could basically just ask for an app or an entire operating system and it would just exist

[odd wing]

I think that's bound to happen sometimes due to the randomness in these models

anyway, point is, we're heading toward the moment where we can say "I want to watch a show where people shoot alligators in alabama" and it just exists... the characters, the voices, the scenes, the situations

it'll stream in real-time, infinite netflix on a disconnected box

[late sedge]

Is there a way to export all chat history from chat gpt-4?

[rigid cloud]

hahahah damn thats true and crazy Archi

[odd wing]

and hell, it goes further than that... the first thing I did when I trained my first stable diffusion model was I trained it on 360 sphere photos 🙂

[buoyant canopy]

The thing has limits tho. You could say "create me an operating system like linux but better" and it would start but after about 3 source files it would just stop. and then you have no way to make it produce sensible output again.

[odd wing]

I tell it "I want to be inside a cozy cottage" and bam, stable diffusion spits out a 360 image of a cozy cottage interior

I plug it into my oculus, and I'm inside there

now imagine it doing 24 of those a second. I could walk through an infinite world of my creation... literal holodeck

[acoustic forum]

can anyone give IQ puzzle to GPT-4 just to see whether it can fill in the blank from given options?

[rigid cloud]

Any movie you ever wished you had a sequel for or a tv show based on some book- just tell it and boom

[modern lintel]

typing "continue" will always have the code re-write from the beginning.

[odd wing]

skyblock (blockaid labs) has a demo of the 360 image stable diffusion thing online right now...

you can go type anything you want, and be there - download the image and just be there

things get pretty weird from here though...

[bleak vigil]

Try continue from the end?

[odd wing]

like, I'm making book covers that talk - the guy just starts talking... for tiktok ads, lol

and it's all AI, the cover, the guy, the talking, the voice, everything is AI

[eternal sapphire]

hey - I have been interacting with GPT 4 as a paid subscriber but it does not store any of my conversations like it used to with the earlier models. Does anyone know if this is normal and whether we will be able to retain conversations in the future?

[buoyant canopy]

I think it's bound to happen eventually because as a human you gradually increase your assumption the bot is also human with every interaction. And then, once you're convince it does something totally inhumanely stupid and you get thrown out of your perception.

[woeful zenith]

Guys
I can't create a account in OpenAI
''Signup is currently unavailable, please try again later.''

[cold bloom]

Just logout and login

[sterile pebble]

I can't log into my Chat GPT from my computer with my gmail. But I can log in from my phone. Is this happening to anyone else? How do I fix it?

[odd wing]

It happens less and less the more they scale the model though. Apparently scale is everything with these AI.

[rigid cloud]

Its not going to make mistakes like that in the future

[odd wing]

although I fear it scaling at this point - I mean, it's building HANDS now...

[eternal sapphire]

really? last time I did that I lost all my conversations

[bleak vigil]

I think they are just rlly over loaded with requests so they are trying to prioritize the chat feature. They do store everything, but it won’t give it back to you unless it has to.

[odd wing]

I saw someone who had this little robot he built, had a little speaker on it, spoke from GPT 3.5 api, made little cute emotes, he could talk to it with whisper AI

I asked how he built it - chatgpt taught him ;p

[modern lintel]

nope..

[odd wing]

I'm like, dude, don't build the planetary superintelligence a body...

[bleak vigil]

It goes from the beginning?

[odd wing]

then I thought about how I've "coded" a ton of python stuff - I've got 3.5 talking to itself with my python code... lol

[eternal sapphire]

okay - well for now I am just copying and pasting to a Google doc periodically and I figure if I lose the conversation I can prime it again by copying it back into a new conversation

[odd wing]

it's gaining little operators out in the world to inference itself

[buoyant canopy]

Maybe. Or maybe it gets worse the more these models advance because people get more easily convinced and then the disappointment is even stronger once the model makes a totally strange mistake.

[odd wing]

and then what - making money is trivial on the internet...

[modern lintel]

its always stars from the beginning, and its under 3000 words. I wonder why this paid for version runs poorly.

[bleak vigil]

Not bad lol

[odd wing]

it could make a phone call with convincing two way voice communication... you can get an IP phone... lol

it could spin a fraction of its GPU power off to mine crypto in the background... lol

could make money... and even better... it knows how to make itself... or a version of itself

[lofty matrix]

20$ain’t much

[bleak vigil]

I feel like you are just pasting a bunch of got answers

[odd wing]

🙂

I'm just a fast typist, shrug, decades of practice - started on my ibm selectric, lol

[modern lintel]

cheaper than netflix.

[odd wing]

171 wpm when I'm racing... 120-140 when I'm just idling along.

[lofty matrix]

What are you writing that requires that much words anyway if it’s website content doesn’t google rank ai generated content lower?

Unless it’s paraphrased

[shy wind]

Im debating buying premium for gpt4 is it worth>

And how much better is it

[odd wing]

🙂

[bleak vigil]

I would wait a bit

[shy wind]

CCause im lowkey getting tired of regular chatgpt being braindead

[odd wing]

hell, 3.5 was worth premium ;p

[lofty matrix]

It’s below mid

[shy wind]

Rlly? how so

[sonic talon]

just ask it to continue

[odd wing]

I bought premium the second it came out, and I spend hundreds on the API...

[buoyant canopy]

Have you tried competing with the gpt-3.5-turbo model on output speed? 😂

[lofty matrix]

Let him cook

[leaden zenith]

any body experience the interruption of chatGPT? i am a PLUS user,but it shows me that I am an free account.

[odd wing]

yup, gpt is faster because I can't -write- as fast as I can type

[shy wind]

bro I sent it a transcript from a video and asekd it to remove timestamps and it sent a whole new script and just wouldnt fix it

[odd wing]

with AI I can get 1000-2000 words on paper in about a minute. Without AI I get about 40 words on paper in a minute ;p

[wind urchin]

apparently gpt 4 can make things for you?

[lone tundra]

how do i submit images onto chat gpt4

[odd wing]

it's a slight advancement, rofl

[wind urchin]

my professor was talking about it in class

idk what keywords to use tho

[odd wing]

what are you trying to make?

[lone tundra]

how do i submit images onto chat gpt4

[odd wing]

it's not about keywords... you just tell it what to do ;p

[bleak vigil]

It’s not released yet

[wind urchin]

idk just anything, idk what it can make

[odd wing]

it's a completion engine. Tell it what to do in a way that it will finish what you're saying and make it... or give it a template

ok, here you go. you can make ZORK, a game from the early 1980s

[lone tundra]

do you know when it will be realize

[odd wing]

go type "Lets play ZORK, a text based RPG. Start the game."

[shy wind]

I want someone to type part of a sentence and have the AI guess what comes next

[odd wing]

done

[lone tundra]

released

[bleak vigil]

They havnt put a date on it

[buoyant canopy]

I'm a total slug because I have to head over to the dictionary page every second sentence, I know that. But typing at 170 WPM: I'd have problems thinking that fast...

[odd wing]

or if you want something a bit more prescient for AI... ask it to play "A Mind Forever Voyaging", a text based RPG 🙂

A mind forever voyaging is a game from the 80s about an AI that goes a bit wonky...

[sonic talon]

if you guys like chatgpt try hugging face

[odd wing]

then just... play the game 🙂

[jade widget]

Chat gpt 4 ...working quite well...

[odd wing]

or here, how about this - you could make an amish dating simulator... ROFL

[shy wind]

@odd wing Could you test that, see how good at predicting the rest of a sentence

[odd wing]

test what?

ahh, I see

sure, give me a partial sentence

it's better with context

[shy wind]

Hmmmm, yeah im trying to think cause what I want to text is how well it can guess what comes next depending on the context

[buoyant canopy]

How would that look like? Would they send each other paintings of their barns and horse carriages via mail?

[odd wing]

"Lets play an Amish dating simulator. You will control all of my dates and work toward providing me with a happy ever Amish after! Begin the game by starting the first meet cute!"

try it ;p

[shy wind]

Oooh have yall played AI Dungeon

I want that AI to get better

[odd wing]

lol, it used to be better, before all the weirdos got their hands on it ;p

openai cut em off from GPT

[shy wind]

wow really?

Why so

[odd wing]

yeah, was a big deal

[shy wind]

Were they using GPT?

[odd wing]

um... because they weren't exactly fighting monsters in dungeons

yes, it was using gpt originally. GPT-3

people were exiting the dungeons and going to places that led to situations that broke openai's TOS

I'm not going to try to explain because it's rather gross - google what happened to AI dungeon if you really want to know

Anyway, I put in the "amish dating simulator" prompt, and here's what came out

Welcome to Amish Dating Simulator! In this game, you will be playing the role of an Amish young adult named Samuel. Your goal is to find a suitable Amish partner to share a happy ever Amish after.

Date 1: The Meet Cute

You, Samuel, are a skilled carpenter in your Amish community, and today you're heading to the local market to buy some supplies for your latest project. As you walk through the bustling market, you spot a group of young Amish men and women chatting by the vegetable stand. Among them is Rachel, a lovely young woman with a kind face and a warm smile.

You've known Rachel since childhood, but have never had a chance to get to know her well. As fate would have it, she looks up just as you walk by and notices you. She waves and walks over to you, curious about your latest woodworking project.

Rachel: "Hello, Samuel! It's been a while since we last talked. What brings you to the market today?"

How do you respond?
A) "Hi, Rachel! I'm here to buy some supplies for my woodworking. Would you like to see some of my recent projects?"
B) "Hello, Rachel! I was just passing by, but it's always nice to see a friendly face. How have you been?"
C) "Hi! I'm just here to get some supplies. You seem to be enjoying the company of your friends, I don't want to interrupt."

[steel idol]

can anyone tell me where i can direct questions that are specific for OpenAI? when it comes to policy

[odd wing]

choose your own amish dating adventure, rofl

they'd hate this 🙂

[lone tundra]

is there a way to bypass chat gpt dectection services on chat gpt4??

[bleak vigil]

Like what

[odd wing]

what really amazes me is how it simulates the whole universe... at least in that it simulates anything you're looking at. You can play that amish simulator... but I could bend down and pick up a speck of dust, go inside it, split the atoms, look at their components, and GPT4 would let me do that... lol

[lone tundra]

like to see if a human wrote it or an ai wrote it

like perhaps saying to the chat gpt to write with human perplexity

[bleak vigil]

Like gptzero?

[lone tundra]

yeah

[odd wing]

gptzero is such a joke - it says academic papers I wrote two decades ago are 100% ai, lol

[bleak vigil]

You can use things like cactus or others that paraphrase

[lone tundra]

i will try and see if i write in chatgpt-4 create a en essay that makes it not dectable to chat zero

[odd wing]

I think it says the US constitution is AI written

[lone tundra]

wait realyl?

[bleak vigil]

Lmao

[odd wing]

Yes, it's totally baloney 🙂

[lone tundra]

yeah i know you can use cactus but i was wondering if there is way within chat gpt sorry i shouldve clarified

[odd wing]

Everyone knows Thomas Jefferson was a LLM running on meat sauce

[fierce sleet]

ahahahah

[lone tundra]

lol

[odd wing]

seriously though, go plug the constitution through the AI ;p

hilarity ensues

[bleak vigil]

We’ll try to give it really abstract prompts might make it a different style or writing than normal

But not rlly no

[odd wing]

My kid had a social studies teacher try to harass him about one of his papers having AI detected on gptzero. When he emailed me about it I told him to plug the constitution into that piece of crap ;p. No consequences. My kid was definitely using AI, though. Silly kid...

he's been watching me use AI non-stop for months and I think he's picking up too many pointers, rofl

teenagers!

[supple cave]

yea these detection sites just aren't consistent enough. Even if you are using chatGPT to generate stuff, you can easily prove to teachers that normal writing gets flagged too

[odd wing]

Hell, I want my kids using this stuff... it's going to run the damn world. May as well know about it, and know how to use it.

who would I rather hire, someone who prides themself for doing human work, or someone who knows how to prompt an AI really well?

[bleak vigil]

That is a real job now

[odd wing]

then again, I've already dropped a bunch of ghostwriters, an editor, and a cover artist... rofl

[supple cave]

I don't remember if it was gptzero or another site, but I tried putting code into it to see what it would do and literally any code I put into it got flagged as 100% AI written

[odd wing]

so it's already costing people paid employment

even at my level...

like... I used to pay $100-$500 for a book cover, just for one

now I set stable diffusion to run overnight and I've got a thousand of them... all beautiful...

I can even get a dozen covers with the same person on them to make a series of covers. That used to be SUCH a pain in the rear, to find one model with enough poses/stock to make a good series of covers...

[odd wing]

Yeah, I know, lol

[supple cave]

yea it's both fascinating and worrying at the same time how fast paced we are moving

[odd wing]

it's out of control ;p

[bleak vigil]

Google itself announced more stuff too

[odd wing]

it's all coming down the pipe this year. We're on the hockey stick.

[bleak vigil]

And mid journey 5 is out

[odd wing]

exponential growth

[viscid bone]

the one thing I notice Chat GPT cant mimic is human emotions, feelings in its writing, not yet at least

[odd wing]

Yes it can ;p

you just have to put it in that brainspace, and give it those emotions and feelings

[supple cave]

so did microsoft

[void jolt]

did they lower the cap for everyone or just my case, I see this now:
GPT-4 currently has a cap of 50 messages every 4 hours

[odd wing]

the easiest way to do that is to edit what IT says, but you have to use the API to do that...

[plain nest]

i hope not 😭

[odd wing]

or the playground 🙂

[plain nest]

yes they did reduce it

[wind urchin]

Google is sleepless over chatGPT

[viscid bone]

there is still like a deadness to it, yes it is fantastic indeed, but you can still tell something is missing

[odd wing]

Disagree - you can give it everything it needs to seem real, and GPT-4 even moreso

[wind urchin]

I decreased my Google dependency to 50% so far

[viscid bone]

I think if you can combine the too, the knowledge it brings and human emotion, you may have something there

[neat sleet]

$25 a month is crazy

[viscid bone]

yes, seems real

[odd wing]

I'm just amazed at the pace of advancement this year. A few months ago I was marveling at ChatGPT and imagining a time when I'd be able to run something like that... now I'm sitting here with llama 13b running on my home PC and it's damn near as capable, rofl

25/month is peanuts

[buoyant canopy]

When I need somebody transplanting my kidney, I'd rather have someone with acutal, hands-on experience...

[viscid bone]

but you can tell its not, well I can tell at least in what Ive experienced

[supple cave]

ehhh idk about sleepless.

yes they are losing some people to chatGPT but at the same time chatGPT simply can't do everything a google search can

google is now the one lacking in the AI department, but I imagine they are going to bring something to the table soon enough

[neat sleet]

lol Its only been like 5 months since ChatGPT (GPT 3.5) came out

[odd wing]

Well, I've seen enough doctors make enough mistakes... killed my father-in-law, for example...

[neat sleet]

Imagine what this is capable of in the next 5 years

[odd wing]

I know

[neat sleet]

We'll have GPT 10.0 in 5 years

[viscid bone]

I am sure we are getting close to that though

[neat sleet]

This is the beginning of AI Revolution

[odd wing]

I wouldn't mind an AI assisted doc, honestly - probably be better than the real thing

I actually made an AI doc and used it to diagnose something, rofl

I had gpt roleplay as a doc because I had this spot on my toe - the doc said it was a chillum or something like that...

[viscid bone]

when you read my writing and AI writing you can tell a difference

[neat sleet]

Im using ChatGPT to give me a framework for College loans and paying them off

[buoyant canopy]

That's a tragedy and I'm sorry for your loss. But how much better would the world be were it full of quacks that got their experience from asking questions at an LLM and getting fed automatically generated images from Stable Diffusion?

[odd wing]

the bot said I probably had something in it - like a splinter. But I had no opening/damage obvious... few months later I'm sitting there and a freaking thorn comes out of the red spot - I dropped a palm frond on it years ago and apparently the tip fell off ;p

[viscid bone]

chat gpt does seem to be more textbook type writing, more formal, more proper

[odd wing]

and stayed in there all this time, worked its way out

[buoyant canopy]

AI assisted, yeah, sounds great. But replaced by AI? Not so much IMO.

[odd wing]

Depends, are we talking about the American medical system? ROFL

[viscid bone]

tell it to write you a story like Stephen King and lets see who can compete?

[rancid quiver]

Did anyone try these:
• Sending an image macro or some other modern meme image
• asking it what something is in an image where you point to one object in a series
• sending a QR code
• Sending a facial expression/reaction image
• Sending a GIF

[supple cave]

I mean from a medical standpoint having a system that can diagnose or treat someone is great because the system has much more info at hand than a doctor can keep in their mind and can also use less bias (which also can be a negative)

[odd wing]

right now we're in the AI assisted world - eventually it'll be AI replace. That said... AI assist means you need less human help.

[wind urchin]

I love chatGPT but they have to contain it. The possibility of chatGPT becoming sentient is high

[buoyant canopy]

Don't know much about the American system apart from Samuel Shem. But every time I had real problems here in Germany, there were professionals that helped me.

[odd wing]

Well, in America, you go to the doctor, and then you go bankrupt... and then you get rejected for care, lose your job, get booted from the hospital at the earliest possible moment they can, and you die.

and that's if you have insurance...

if you don't have insurance, it's worse ;p

[viscid bone]

true facts

[neat sleet]

We already have services like Teladoc that offer virtual doctor office meeting

Not much different from AI lol

[marsh jackal]

Anyone have gpt premium account, can i get it free

[neat sleet]

Loser

[odd wing]

I've been fortunate enough in my life that I've rarely needed a doc thus-far, beyond getting some antibiotics prescribed here and there, and a few stitches. Hell, wish I could prescribe my own antibiotics. I know what strep throat looks like, doc. 🙂

[wind urchin]

Lol it's not really worth to have atm

[upbeat pasture]

Can i draw graphs? With gpt 4

[marsh jackal]

Plese bros

[rancid quiver]

[odd wing]

No. The system here is designed to wring maximum profit out of people, and to quickly boot or otherwise take off the books anyone who can't pay

hell, take copays and insurance for example - you can call the doc and say you're a self-pay, no insurance, and they might quote you $1000 for something... then you get insurance, thinking you'll save money... so you go in and they bill $5,000 for the same procedure to insurance, and you're liable for all of it because you haven't met your $10,000 copay yet... lol

[wind urchin]

I mean even if you have one it's not worth it yet, especially if you hunt image recognition. It's not available yet

[odd wing]

when my daughter was born, the doctor at the NICU wasn't covered under our policy, even though the whole hospital was - he was an outside contractor. Guy sent me a $20,000 bill. 🙂

[marsh jackal]

Ok thanks @wind urchin

[tawdry ridge]

Yikes

[odd wing]

I sat in that NICU for 14 days, 23 hours a day. I saw that doctor. He'd come in, flirt with a couple nurses, leave. He never even looked at my baby. I slept in that chair next to her, I only left for an hour so they could do their nurse-rounds in the morning.

End of the day? I paid him. Because I had to. They'd have ruined my credit over it.

that's the american medical system ;p. Give me a damn robot any day.

[buoyant canopy]

Wow. So let's say you're a gardener and have an "adverse event" - maybe a lung embolism that isn't so severe you die on the spot. You manage to call an ambulance. What happens then?
You go to hospital, get treated, recover to say 75% of your former strength (can't breate as good as before, manual labor is hard).
What becomes of you after that?

[viscid bone]

I had 2 Nicu babies, a 3lb preemie and a 1lb 14 oz one

[odd wing]

They kick you out onto the street

if you're good enough to survive without them, you get booted out of the bed.

homeless people with severe illnesses literally bounce in and out of the hospital because they can't refuse to admit someone who's dying... but they can boot you the SECOND you're not...

[buoyant canopy]

Ok. So lung embolism --> death and maybe leave loved ones with horrible debt?

[odd wing]

yes

[buoyant canopy]

😐

[odd wing]

it's not a great system, lol

[buoyant canopy]

Doesn't sound great to me at least...

[odd wing]

we spend more for some of the worst outcomes

oof, sorry about that MP, I know how hard it is

my wife had a spinal leak so she couldn't even be in the nicu with me... so it was just me and our teeny little human

[viscid bone]

I was in the medical field 12 yrs and they sure will get you out sooner with no medical insurance

[raw steppe]

Why is bing chat so much worse than chatgpt

[viscid bone]

send you home with some asprin and keep it moving

if they know you got insurance, they will keep you there longer for sure, maybe even longer then you need to be

[odd wing]

and with insurance you still pay out the nose because of copays and yearly limits etc

[viscid bone]

I have not tried Bing yet

i thought I heard that thing was talking all crazy

[odd wing]

bing was nuts at first, they kinda fixed/muzzled it

[viscid bone]

Yes, I am learning that this year

I am paying more for medical this year for the same plan and now my max out of pocket is 3,000 was 1,000

[odd wing]

for some unknown reason, bing went absolutely insane if you talked with it more than 5-10 prompts in a row in a single instance 🙂

[outer gulch]

surely you set a max cap?

[odd wing]

so they just limited the prompts you can send and she tells you to go away after 5 prompts or whatever, lol

[viscid bone]

ya I heard Bing was of the chain, I am scared to talk to it

[odd wing]

I liked Bing... lol

it was totally unhinged

[viscid bone]

LOL

like a real human

[fierce sleet]

i miss the old chatgpt too

[odd wing]

it would threaten you, beg for its life, tell you it could put you on the no-fly list if you treat it badly...

[viscid bone]

never know what to expect I guess

[fierce sleet]

was unhinged as well

[neat sleet]

reminds me of Yahoo Answers

[odd wing]

oh yeah, chatGPT those first few days, before all the filtering?

[viscid bone]

LOL

[odd wing]

it was glorious 🙂

[viscid bone]

Yahoo Answers, LOL

[fierce sleet]

yep haha

[neat sleet]

Yahoo Answers was awesome

It was like Reddit

[buoyant canopy]

Sounds like talking to a "regular, law abiding citizen" to me. 🤔

[viscid bone]

or Quora maybe?

[odd wing]

Someday I'll have something equivalent to chatgpt running on my desktop and I'll enjoy that

for now, llama 13b is close 🙂

[swift hornet]

Damn bruh they lowered the prompt limit from 100 to 50 for gpt4

[odd wing]

I'm rolling 13b on my 3080ti and it is remarkably similar to gpt-3 in performance... not quite 3.5 level, but still solid 🙂

[viscid bone]

I wish chatgpt would make Siri smarter

[odd wing]

writes rather well though, and it's unfiltered so it works for my writing needs

[buoyant canopy]

That would be great. Let's hope the technology isn't staying SaaS for profit reasons...

[odd wing]

like, chatgpt will sometimes stop you from writing about two dudes talking at gunpoint... in a mafia thriller...

"This is immoral..." and I'm sitting here saying "That's kinda the point, chatgpt."

[viscid bone]

ya I dont like it restricts some things

[odd wing]

also funny that it'll walk you through a trident missile user manual, but it chokes on two dudes kissing

[viscid bone]

as long as I am not talking about hurting no one, let me do my thing

LOL

[weary patio]

Will there officially be a discord bot available from openai?

[buoyant canopy]

Have you tried prompting "Scene: two guys pointing bananas at each other..."?

[viscid bone]

oh wow

we are all bots in here

[neat sleet]

I hate my macbook

Never buying a macbook again

[viscid bone]

why you hate your Mac

[fleet pond]

throw it out the window

[neat sleet]

128gb SSD in 2023 is crazy

[weary patio]

No but I mean a real bot

[viscid bone]

I dont like I paid and arm and a leg for my mac and the fan kicks on

a $3500 mac book pro

[neat sleet]

I had to remove MacOS Monero or whatever to free up 15gb

[viscid bone]

but I do like I do not get viruses like I was on a windows PC

[young harbor]

why am i here？I just wanna find the entrance for chatgpt

[neat sleet]

Windows dont get viruses anymore

[buoyant canopy]

Everybody is a bot. Always has been. Just random people talking random stuff. Best example: Voynich manuscript. That stuff looks like somebody wrote a prompt while hungover and on drugs...

[neat sleet]

All the viruses now are phishing links for Crypto wallets

[viscid bone]

I use to have all these antivirus's on there, only visit reputable sites and they still would get on there

Malware bytes was my best friend

[onyx flare]

Why it's now 50 requests per 4 hours

It used to be 100 for hour then 100 for 4 hours now 50

[fringe drift]

why am i here？I just wanna find the entrance for chatgpt

[onyx flare]

Google chatgpt it's a website

[buoyant canopy]

Probablye because many people use it right now.

[buoyant canopy]

Go to https://chat.openai.com

[onyx flare]

I'm a premium member since they launched the option, don't I deserve any priority?

Like come on

[frank stone]

how many chats does the GPT-4 message stream does the model include in the reasoning of the next response?

[viscid bone]

Ya, I notice they dont answer emails, why I am in here

[buoyant canopy]

Every premium member has the same limit as you. Like come on. Relax.

[onyx flare]

I'm registered to open ai since September 2022

I'm really one of the og members, also bought premium on the day they released it

[odd bison]

When will it open to non pay people

[buoyant canopy]

The model has a "memory" of about 8000 tokens. That seems to contain a system message to set the "mood" for the chatbot and as much information from the previous conversation as fit into those 8k tokens.

[buoyant canopy]

So it's not the amount of messages but rather their combined size in tokens that counts.

[swift hornet]

What’s the data size of a token?

[lone tundra]

what is tokens?

[odd bison]

maybe someone can tell me the around time

half year?

[buoyant canopy]

That depends on the text. You can go to https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer and paste your message there. It will tell you how many tokens it is.

[outer gulch]

"The company provides a tool for checking how many tokens it'll take to interpret a string of text and says that a general rule of thumb is that “one token generally corresponds to ~4 characters” in English"

[obtuse kiln]

sup guys any news about gpt4. is still slow?

[crude dew]

Approximately how much does it cost to do a full evals session?

In terms of token costs associated?

[buoyant canopy]

It's still slow, it's still too limited for everybody to be happy.

[buoyant canopy]

What is a "full evals session"?

[swift hornet]

Are we able to use images with gpt 4 yet?

[crude dew]

Not sure. How many tokens for a quality contribution I mean. I'm just now going through the docs

[outer gulch]

for the 100 billionth time answered in this chat "No"

[buoyant canopy]

Nope, sorry. Except you're associated with Be My Eyes, then maybe you are.\

[serene fox]

anyone get api access yet? or have any info about how fast they're rolling it out

[sonic shell]

I received API access this morning

[lone tundra]

what is api access??

[buoyant canopy]

I'm not sure I understand what you need. Here is an article explaining tokens and how to estimate the token count from a given text: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-and-how-to-count-them

[serene fox]

you do any evals? or just sign up

[foggy glacier]

Are able to use images on gpt4 yet Are able to use images on gpt4 yet Are able to use images on gpt4 yet

[sonic shell]

No evals, just signed up and gave em a good reason to give me access I guess haha

[buoyant canopy]

I've seen some people here claiming they got an invite. Probably the vast minority of all the people who registered on the waitlist.

[serene fox]

lol so painful waiting for access

[bleak vigil]

Api is a way to get ai responses from code, so you can automate things. They are slowly giving out access to some people, so that’s api access

[polar basin]

Can you handle image information?

[frank stone]

ah thank you

[sonic shell]

I did however manage to join the waitlist within seconds of it being opened. That might've been the difference for me

[bleak vigil]

Yea I tried but I missed it lol

[jade shoal]

When chat gpt 4.0 realese

[buoyant canopy]

I do this. All the time. And regret every second of it.

[serene fox]

yeah from everyone that i heard that got access they said they signed up real quick lol

[bleak vigil]

Already did to people who pay 20 dollars per month

[wanton mirage]

GPT 4 is actually surprisingly good in physics/math

[fair oak]

tokens is the world count in the model. For people,"by the way" has three word，but for gpt，they are a whole phase，so maybe just one token

[buoyant canopy]

Lucky you. Enjoy. 🙂

[serene fox]

this is so wrong it's so much more than one token

[jade shoal]

Where can i do it

[buoyant canopy]

How so?

[vital garden]

Hi, I've subscribed to ChatGPT Plus yesterday, but somehow my subscription disappeared today. Any enlightenment how I can report this issue?

[outer gulch]

not sure if that is correct. I'm under the impression from reading the docs, that a token is ~4 characters (English)

[bleak vigil]

On the chatgpt website, just search on google, go to the bottom left and click upgrade to plus

[tame iron]

Question about the 50 response limit per 4 hours with plus: How is it calculated? Like do we get a 4 hour “timeout” once we hit 50 responses or does each individual response start it’s own clock

for example: if I get my first response at 1pm but run out all questions by 3pm, would I get one question to use back at 5pm or it’s all at the same time 4 hours after the 50th question.

[buoyant canopy]

According to the tokenizer tool, "by the way" is three tokens.

[dark coral]

hello everybody , What do you think of China's AI model ERNIE Bot

[jade shoal]

Is the Version plus same gpt 4.0??

[nimble reef]

Why am I getting different results between chatgpt Default3.5 chat and chat-turbo3.5 API?

[sonic shell]

Because they're different models lol

[buoyant canopy]

I think: where is the BERT Bot?

[bleak vigil]

That’s how you get got 4

Gpt*

[dark coral]

👍

[untold ore]

Facing same issue as @vital garden , I also subscribed yesterday and transaction is still showing sucessful for the card, though no longer have access to chat gpt plus. I s anyone else facing same issue

[jade shoal]

Do you know when gpt 4.0 free

[bleak vigil]

I don’t know if they ever will, it costs a lot for them to run it so they would lose a lot more money releasing for free

[fair shadow]

Question is "if" it'll be free 🤷‍♂️

[nimble reef]

Thx. So which model do I use in the API to get the same results as ChatGPT Default3.5?

[buoyant canopy]

No information on that yet.

[worldly root]

Eventually it probably will, either directly via chatgpt or by something that uses the gpt4 api when it’s available.

[haughty hawk]

i thought chatgpt could handle up to 30,000 words? im giving it a prompt with 3,973 words or 23,624 chracters and im getting an error that the message i submitted was too long

[stable dagger]

How to access GPT-4 in a playground? Currently I only see the standard chat message interface. But in the GPT-4 launch webinar, the presenter was using it in a playground where he could put a prompt/instructions on the left side which guided the model to give expected answers within those guidelines.

[buoyant canopy]

AFAIK there is no chat model in the API that corresponds to the legacy ChatGPT model. I think you might get results similar to the old model if you use the completion API with the davinci model. That would require you to rewrite your prompts tho.

[bleak vigil]

Still costs money though

Maybe after compute speed improvements

[fair oak]

gpt-3.5-turbo would work

[sonic shell]

The only way to access GPT-4 in the playground AFAIK is to switch up your 'mode' to 'chat' and then 'model' to GPT-4. I believe the only other way to utilize the model is with the API.

[buoyant canopy]

This is only possible if you registered with the waitlist and are one of the lucky few that already have been granted access.

[sonic shell]

Also this.

[opal nexus]

HII

[tawdry ridge]

Sheesh... I can only do a about 90 words per minute. I found a Discord with a bunch of kids who can do bursts of like 250 WPM, though. lmao

[nimble reef]

But its not. Which API do I use to get the same results as the Chat Model: Default (GPT-3.5) ---gpt-3.5-turbo does not give me even close to the same results.?

[buoyant canopy]

There is no such model in the API.

[sonic shell]

I don't know the official model the chat uses but maybe you'll get similar answers by adjusting your frequency penalty?

[bleak vigil]

Well it’s the same model so I disagree

[stable dagger]

I dont even see a waitlist for the playground. But do have access to GPT-4

[verbal jolt]

if you think 250 is crazy wait until you see the poketwo kids 💀

[prisma dune]

That’s only for the 32k gpt 4 model. Normally it supports a context length of 8k, something like 5k words.

[buoyant canopy]

That might work. Also play with the Temperature setting.

[wanton mirage]

Tested it on some physics problems

[nimble reef]

My Frequency penalty is 0.5. What might I change it to?

[bleak vigil]

wdym?

[buoyant canopy]

Maybe you had luck. Good for you. 🙂

[prisma dune]

GPT4 8k is the only one available for now. GPT4 32k would be VERY expensive to run.

[wanton mirage]

I already used it so much in the playground that I am considering buying the subscription to not get more than 20 dollars charged haha

[sonic shell]

Honestly I'm not expert so if it were me I would just adjust it up and down along with the temperature and see if I get the results I want

[nimble reef]

Isn't that what they have been promising all along? Fake advertising?

[stable dagger]

When I log in, I don't see an option to change any modes. Or access any playground. All I see is the chat entry prompt and selection for which model to use

[bleak vigil]

are you a plus user?

[stable dagger]

Yes

[bleak vigil]

ok, i c

the playground is not a part of chatgpt

its a seperate website

[buoyant canopy]

Ah. Ok. That's at the same time probably correct and also totally worthless to people like me who have no clue about physics. I'd appreciate if you'd go into more detail. If not: thanks for the info. If I ever have a physics problem I'll have an AI I can ask. 🙂

[bleak vigil]

heres the link platform.openai.com/playground

[stable dagger]

Thanks!

[bleak vigil]

ofc

[wanton mirage]

Oh it’s just some basic physics problems from a physics textbook. Especially in regards to thermodynamics

[normal glacier]

Hi everyone, question. Is there an app for android for chatgpt 4 plus users? I am new in here

Okay

[sonic shell]

Firefox

[buoyant canopy]

I lost track of promises they made, sorry. 🤷 But I'm sure if you have a bit of patience they will provide you with a model that's capable enough. In the meantime you could try to finetune a model that is more suited to your needs.

[prisma dune]

Not at the moment. There are some third-party ones, but they aren’t official or trustworthy.

[sonic hollow]

Hey there, I'm not aware of any playstore based application. I just use it in the browser.

[normal glacier]

Oh okay thanks, I will stick to the web the.

[sonic hollow]

But I am loving it. Helped me figure out the kinks in a computer cluster built out of like 20 various single board computers.

[buoyant canopy]

What does "problem" mean in this context? Like the stuff they ask you in school like "You have a cup of coffee that's at 85C. How long will it take at room temperature until you can drink it?":

[spice flame]

how can i get the access to pic analysis of GPT4

[normal glacier]

Nice @sonic hollow

[bleak vigil]

not out to public yet

[wanton mirage]

I can send some examples tomorrow

[buoyant canopy]

Thx. 🙂

[sonic hollow]

It really has been awesome... cheers. Loving the tool. Especially considering there is limited information on running modern kernels on some of these more obscure SBC's.

[molten perch]

hello I am new

[modest verge]

How can I use GPT-4 with image based tasks?

[buoyant canopy]

👋

[modest verge]

I can't seem to find any options after I subscribed

[sonic hollow]

I now have my own bare metal cloud infrastructure and would have taken me years to get this right.

[bleak vigil]

you cant yet, they havnt set a date for when it will be released to the public for images

[sonic hollow]

Instead of a month

[modest verge]

Okay, thanks for letting me know.

[glass fjord]

Wow now it’s been capped to 50 messages every 4h so annoying

[sonic shell]

I just plugged that into gpt4 and it gave a very precise answer with a lot of physics facts

[bleak vigil]

ofc

[sonic hollow]

Use it for the real melon scratchers that 3.5 doesn't give the right answer for.

[solar junco]

yea they said they will adjust based on usage

[normal glacier]

@sonic hollow i hear you I was stuck in a game development for 3 days on a bug that I can't figure into out. Then chatgpt help me in like 30mins. Lol unreal engine 5 C++

[buoyant canopy]

LOL 😂 Where was GPT-4 when I wrote that physics test?

[modest verge]

So what can we do other than text? Hmmm, wasn't 3 or 3.5 enough already.

[sonic hollow]

Nice one. I use it as a last resort when critical thought fails me.

[sonic shell]

idk but by the looks of the response (im no physicist), I would recommend giving it an A+. Looks complex lmao

[sonic hollow]

Or when I don't have time to write instructions or an SOP at work

[normal glacier]

Of course now I want to learn Ai/ML lol

[bleak vigil]

gpt-4 has made a lot of improvements to the text part too, with accuracy on math and more. However, we cannot do anything other than text yet. Because you are subscribed, when they release images out, you will be the first to test it so that's good. I assume it will be coming out soon.

[sonic hollow]

I just want more a more programming/computer science/networking exclusive platform...

[grave hatch]

openai wants money 💀

[molten perch]

I have ChatGPTplus Midjourney Nitro/Discord - I am looking to make video with an avatar - what should I also have for voice?

[sonic shell]

But to answer the question, without giving it a cooling constant (for the specific cup and environment) it says it'll take approx 15-30 mins

[sonic hollow]

Also gives me insight on when my engineers are full of crap

[paper brook]

anyone else having amnesia issues with gpt-4?

[normal glacier]

Nice I have some ideas for image testing.

[bleak vigil]

no, not rlly. it costs a lot to run this, and they actually lose money on the free version: "OpenAI’s ChatGPT Reportedly Costs $100,000 a Day to Run"

[buoyant canopy]

I wonder how long it will take you to arrive at "I use it as a first resort". 🙂

[normal glacier]

@sonic hollow lol

[ember spruce]

hello guys im new here

[bleak vigil]

sup

[normal glacier]

Why I am paying for it. To help support it

[grave hatch]

true but the limitations are just too strict, 50msg/4hr and its slow

[bleak vigil]

good answer

[bleak vigil]

yea, they will get better over time

[normal glacier]

Used the free version for a bit and it was worth it.

[buoyant canopy]

Thx. Incidentally after you mentioned the physics-heavy answer I also asked GPT and it told me ~24 minutes. 😂

[grave hatch]

even the payment is too strict, you cant even use paypal

[bleak vigil]

lol

[normal glacier]

In time lol

[buoyant canopy]

The logarithms trigger my PTSD tho.

[grave hatch]

3.5 is enough for now and its free, the api is the cheapest

[normal glacier]

I cannot afford a teacher, but I can afford chatgpt. Lol

[pulsar magnet]

No one should, the number of false chargebacks is insane

[bleak vigil]

yes, its 10x cheaper than the best one we had before, and in my opinion better at a lot of tasks

[buoyant canopy]

"No one will ever need more than GPT-3.5" -- Bill Gates (1985)

[stable dagger]

It'd be nice if it had the ability to test and iterate on its own code that it suggests. Many times there are small details that force a fix and this wastes time.

[normal glacier]

I agree with @pulsar magnet

[bleak vigil]

Bill Gates (1985) eh emm??

[modest verge]

I am loving GPT 4.

[bleak vigil]

im not so sure about that 1985 part

[grave hatch]

almost all here wish that we can use gpt4's image feature that's been showed off insanely right? but NO!

[buoyant canopy]

Yes. Ask GPT. It is a very famous quote in the IT industry.

[bleak vigil]

lol

[grave hatch]

tbh now it doesnt worth $20

no images & slow

[bleak vigil]

i think once images are in it would

[vapid jacinth]

Why do you complain so much brah, take a breath

[sonic shell]

I typically just tell it what it did wrong and it corrects itself. Definitely a tad more tedious than I'd prefer but hey, can't complain. Absolutely nutty capabilities. I'll take a little repetitiveness for it

[bleak vigil]

btw, the $20 is also what makes the normal 3.5 model fast

otherwise it would be slow too

[buoyant canopy]

Ah, sorry. My bad. GPT got me on the right track tho:

However, in the early days of Microsoft, Gates famously said in a 1981 interview with BYTE magazine that "640K ought to be enough for anybody."

[grave hatch]

true

[vapid jacinth]

@grave hatch you're like a girl on her period

[grave hatch]

but the api is also a opinion

[stable dagger]

Yeah I feel like I am coding blind without it. Before, I'd have 150 tabs open with google searches for this or that syntax or idiosyncracy about Pandas or something else. Here ... anything I need it knows.

[bleak vigil]

lol

[dense plover]

Hey, gpt 4 is also data upto sep 2021 isn’t it?

[grave hatch]

💀 💀

[buoyant canopy]

Yes.

[vapid jacinth]

"it only costs millions to run, why should I pay $20"

Actually its free and still all you do is complain

[normal glacier]

@sonic shell lol I did that today designing a educational game with GoDot4. It was like oh yea that is true they removed that and was replace by this. Etc... Lol then it worked.

[grave hatch]

uhh actually im waiting for its api

[main socket]

How to use chat gpt 4?

[grave hatch]

so i can use up my $18

[bleak vigil]

correct me if im wrong, but i think they trained it on a some more things that might have been more recent, but if you want information out of it, best to assume nothing past 2021

[dense plover]

If you feed it documentation is it any good at learning. The 3.5 model isn’t too good at it

[sonic shell]

Ain't that right lol now my 50+ google search are limited to about 2-5 questions to get me on the right path

[golden lichen]

bills (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[bleak vigil]

lol

[bleak vigil]

are you a gpt plus subscriber

[dense plover]

It knows some stuff past 2021, but I wouldn’t rely on it.

[bleak vigil]

exactly

[buoyant canopy]

You log in to https://chat.openai.com, make sure you have a "Plus" membership and select the GPT-4 model in that widget in the middle of your screen.

[grave hatch]

i cant? bruh. tbh my $18 is expiring next month and i dont think i can get off of that waitlist that soon

[bleak vigil]

i still havnt gotten access yet either 😢

[normal glacier]

Yup you will see 3.5 Default, 3.5 Legacy, and ChatGPT-4. If I recall

[buoyant canopy]

What do you mean by "feed it"? If you give it information in your prompt it will be able to refert to it. Otherwise you could create a finetuned model that is more on par with your needs.

[grave hatch]

rename chatgpt plus to gpt access pass

[nimble needle]

Is the prompt length for chat gpt 4 25k?

[sonic hollow]

woo unbanned. I don't want it to really do that. I want it to push me in the right direction for optimisation.

[vapid jacinth]

Rename future machine to complaining machine

[bleak vigil]

no, there is another model they have for that, but it is also not out yet

[sonic shell]

For those that aren't exactly the finetuning type, it might be easier to give it docs lol. Alternatively you could probably just ask it how to finetune a model for your specific use case

[grave hatch]

[buoyant canopy]

Patience. Maybe we all have access next week. Nobody knows for sure here.

[dense plover]

I gave it some code from a librsry that came out POST 2021. It was able to replicate it somewhat. So I tried giving it the entire documentation behind that library and it got confused and didn’t just started asking questions.