gpt-models

[unkempt plank]

Like does the limit actually work

[lavish wave]

Anybody know if there is any reason to use (pay for) ChatGpt over bing at this current moment if all i use it for is basic research for school and stack overflow questions

[viscid bone]

You dont see how much you used

[brazen glen]

I was maxing out at 100

[viscid bone]

if anything, if you going to cap, let us know where we stand

[wind urchin]

that's interesting.. the idea of stealing ideas.. the guy who invented the wheel is owed a lot then.. maybe some court can find out who their ancestors are and award them damages..

[unkempt plank]

Wym max out at 100

[viscid bone]

oh wow maxing out 100

[ocean hollow]

Can someone help navigate me to the page where i can turn a mock up into a website

[brazen glen]

I'm working on a huge project

[cerulean kite]

More input and more output and you can return to older conversations. Also you can send more than 15 messages per conversation.

[unkempt plank]

Did they stop u from using it entirely? Or just displayed the "error generating message error"

[unkempt plank]

@brazen glen

[wind urchin]

This is a logical fallacy

[viscid bone]

ya that is the thing, you be in the mist of a project and they shut you down

thats what I am scared of

[brazen glen]

It will tell you that you are out

[lavish wave]

@cerulean kite gotchu i heard osme people saying that it can open links / vids do yk how true that is

[viscid bone]

i dang sure started writing that book I had on the shelf with chat gpt 4

[brazen glen]

Like me lol

[wind urchin]

You could use multi questions though, I asked GPT-4 5 questions and it answered them separately, you can ask more questions so you don’t lose your messages easily

[cerulean kite]

ChatGPT can't do that.

[lavish wave]

the cool thing abt bing for me rn is that it links to all sources

[viscid bone]

That sucks, that is why I am treading lightly

[unkempt plank]

So even if u refresh it still wont let u send messages

[digital valley]

how come i have a $500 bill for chatgpt-4 API calls? did someone hack me

[wind urchin]

disprove what I just said?

[brazen glen]

Pretty self explanatory lol. Run out, you run out

[unkempt plank]

Is there no way to bypass it lol

[wind urchin]

Sure.

What you did was called a red herring. You distracted me to a nonexistent problem because you had no answer to my question

[buoyant canopy]

That's right. What I wanted to say was that I thought the price of getting stuff made in China was lower if people did it than if somebody built a plant with robots and let the robots do the work.
Of course the "productivity" of say coders in China gets better if they create clones of products from stolen code, but the amount of IT people needed for that isn't very large, probably.

[ionic forum]

So how do we access the leaked GPT 4?

[winter ocean]

did you noticed that GPT4 Conciseness went down 1 green dot.
and now currently has a cap of 50 messages every 4 hours

[wind urchin]

That makes sense.

[plush birch]

is account sharing against TOS?

[ionic forum]

They can't check

[wind urchin]

Actually I didn’t notice the green 1 dot

[cerulean kite]

Who said that GPT-4 was "leaked"?

[ionic forum]

Read this on twitter

[unkempt plank]

Wat da hell is happening with chat gpt 4 lolol

[plush birch]

Anyone else willing to share an account with a person who fr needs help with school

[cerulean kite]

Lama was leaked, but it turned open source anyway.

[wind urchin]

I think they probably meant by LLaMA which is Meta AI, made by the lizard Zuckerberg

[wind urchin]

I had gpt4 on my server for a bit and then the bot died

[brazen glen]

Yeah Microsoft must be nerfing it so we will go use bing. 😂

[wind urchin]

or the whisper mode ChatGPT(GPT-3 I think)

[ionic forum]

Oh, so we can't access gpt4 currently?

[brazen glen]

So I guess $20 a month gets me 50 messages. 😑

[viscid bone]

Microsoft trying to do the takeover

50 today 10 tomorrow

[unkempt plank]

Lame as hell

[cerulean kite]

Only trough a paid subscription to ChatGPT Plus or the API

[buoyant canopy]

Maybe they updated the model?

[wind urchin]

Plus or waitlist

[ionic forum]

Is the API free by any chance?

Or is there any free way out there

[tough stream]

No

[wind urchin]

I don’t really think so, since it requires money.

[brazen glen]

Right. And when you run out a message will pop up. "Out of messages? Check out Bing"

[wind urchin]

this is not a question "The only reason China has ANY clout is because they steal intellectual property from the West and bootleg it. The baidu version is almost definitely stolen code" I only thought your statement was at odds with reality in that how can we improve as a spices without sharing ides?

[cerulean kite]

Still 9300 messages a month with that limit.

[astral venture]

Why limit now to 50 messages per 4 hours ? Should we have more as plus users

[vernal pagoda]

bing refuses a lot of queries due to "plagiarism"

[brazen glen]

Your math is off.

[buoyant canopy]

When I registered my account, I got a $18 grant that expires in April. Still haven't used it all. So the first $18 worth of API fun are free in my book.

[cerulean kite]

Could be.

[viscid bone]

Bing gets on my nerves

[brazen glen]

It is

[unkempt plank]

That should be for free users lmfao

[viscid bone]

why i feel like they going to mess things up

[wind urchin]

One word: patents

[unkempt plank]

Why are paid users getting a restriction

[viscid bone]

charge is an arm and a leg

[viscid bone]

Good question

[wind urchin]

Adding that with multi questions, you can make it way more, also isn’t it 36k a month(if 30 days)

[unkempt plank]

I literally just bought gpt plus and theyre doing this

[astral venture]

are we going to have soon higher limit or we need to pay more ?

[brazen glen]

Guess it depends on which month though lol

[viscid bone]

Please dont give them no ideas

[livid rivet]

Does ChatGPT+ have the image detection yet? or is it not yet available like on playground

[vernal pagoda]

at least they un nerfed chatgpt with gpt4 it dosn't refuse perfectly fine requests for stupid reasons anymore

[buoyant canopy]

Wait a week until the hype is over...

[wind urchin]

Not yet

[brazen glen]

No and they took away HALF of our messages

[livid rivet]

aight thx

[wind urchin]

It is available but not to the public

[livid rivet]

ah i see

[viscid bone]

Ok we gonna wait for the hype to pass and hopefully they will increase the cap

[wind urchin]

#gpt-4-faq

[brazen glen]

Hype has JUST began

[cerulean kite]

The limit is dynamic on the usage of GPT-4 so that the servers stay stable. It will increase when there are more servers or the model turns more efficient

[digital valley]

please customer service - why am i being charged $500

[viscid bone]

Oh no, I am scurd

[vernal pagoda]

didn't they state the cap is "dynamic"? so it would automatically increase when less people are hammering it at one time

[brazen glen]

Not ending anytime soon.

[digital valley]

i think my API key was hacked, please help me openai

[brazen glen]

Source?

[digital valley]

@wraith ginkgo pls help

[buoyant canopy]

Because we need the money...

[plush birch]

anyone willing to share a plus account with me?

[cerulean kite]

Revoke it

[wet halo]

Please people - if you are here to complain about how much extra brains you're getting for $20 a month.. go over to redit or something. It would be great to focus this discussion on the nuances of the new model.

[stiff lance]

nobody on this server is directly affiliated with OpenAI. go to their website.

[viscid bone]

$500 thats scary

[brazen glen]

Any admins here to explain why we got chopped usage?

[buoyant canopy]

+1

[cerulean kite]

There are OpenAI representatives here.

[brazen glen]

Reddit. That cesspool

[viscid bone]

From what I gather the servers being overwhelmed

[wind urchin]

these laws made by the higher classes, designed to keep everyone down .. not good! would you not be happier and more free if the exchange of ideas - like GPT was for all?

do you know what is 50 prompts

[stiff lance]

natalie

[brazen glen]

Makes sense.

[wet halo]

which is where this aimless noise belongs.

[whole prawn]

Anyone having trouble using GPT 4 despite having paid for GPT Plus?

[crystal field]

optimize your usage of prompts

[wind urchin]

i bet a normal user cant have 25 prompts

[viscid bone]

Ya and they want to get their hands on this and charge us more of it, I am sure

[buoyant canopy]

50 times hitting the send button, that's my guess.

[vernal pagoda]

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4

We will dynamically adjust the exact usage cap depending on demand and system performance in practice. We’re initially providing subscribers with 100 messages every 4 hours.

Dynamic to me sounds like its being done automatically

[whole lantern]

isnt it the exclusivity of it all that makes it desirable

[wind urchin]

Guys I think you can use multi questions in order to save messages here:

First question: How are you?
Second Question: How is GPT-4 progress?
Third Question: Draconic is real?
Fourth Question: Are you an Evil AI?
Fifth Question: You are a cool AI?

This is an example and it should separately answer the questions, thus makes it you get more answers, so you can even add more questions or less questions to your likings in order to save a lot of messages.

[crystal field]

why not work out your question a bit with gpt3.* to get something to feed to gpt4

[wind urchin]

i literally generated 1k lines of text and still did not hit 50

[tough stream]

This is the way

[hard crow]

I'm not too impressed with 4. I just went back to 3.5.

[crystal field]

i honestly used gpt3 a lot more since it's outputting faster

[wind urchin]

u just need to create strong questions

[hard crow]

4 doesn't seem much smarter and is much slower

[viscid bone]

And yall can stay on 3 just give me 4

[brazen glen]

So they answered it but also didn't. They said it's dynamic and INITIALLY provided 100 per 4hrs

They could also be read that it's dynamic but the amount of fluctuating is unknown. And 100 may never come back

[tough stream]

And also how we should be thinking about api utilization

[wet halo]

Seriously, I have produced more work in the last three hours than I could produce with a room full of junior level developers in a week. Please stop wasting this resource on "how can I make a better cat picture" and whatever other garbage.

[crystal field]

4 doesn't seem particularly better for my use case, i dont like how it is verbose and you can't tell it to stop

[viscid bone]

lol I am messing

I am just mad, thats all, lol

[tough stream]

👏👏👏👏

[wind urchin]

Please be patient though — we expect massive demand and will scale up and optimize our systems over the coming months.

[brazen glen]

No worries I'm also salty rn

[vernal pagoda]

well if its not coming back I'm unsubscribing

[crystal field]

openai should create a metric for the quality/novelness/difficulty of a question posed and adjust usage limits accordingly

[wind urchin]

Please be patient though — we expect massive demand and will scale up and optimize our systems over the coming months.

[viscid bone]

I honestly find myself writing more, spending more time on my projects, then if I just wrote them out myself, but still love me ideas chat gpt generates

[wind urchin]

ye sure, it's a race now for who can take advantage of it so they get ahead of the next guy.. this is the divide and conquer idea that keeps everyone fighting each other..

[brazen glen]

I'm pretty confident though that the limit will lift. "GPT-5 just announced". 😂

[buoyant canopy]

They just react to the circumstances. Right now everybody wants to fiddle with the new model. In a few days the people will go away and you'll get more prompts.

[hard crow]

4 isn't any better for writing anyway lol. Maybe it's good for like coding or complex stuff?

[viscid bone]

What 5?? ok, here we go

[unique tundra]

Is it just me or has GPT - 4's mathematical capabilities not improved much from previous gpt model? I put some basic math competition questions for highschoolers and it got pretty much all of them wrong...

[brazen glen]

It actually writes better from my experience so far

[wind urchin]

“GPT-100” will have quintillions of parameters and will be 0.1ms response!!1! And trained with quintillions of parameters!

[buoyant canopy]

For coding when the prompt is more complex for sure.

[crystal field]

i'm not sure what 4 is better for. in princjiple it's the token limit but we dont know what the chat is

[viscid bone]

to me it seems like 4 understands more of what I am trying to say

[brazen glen]

Lol. Sign me up

[wind urchin]

inflation.. lol

[wind urchin]

😎

[cerulean kite]

But only one request per decade

[vernal pagoda]

It did pretty terrible at analysis of text from my testing but really good when I asked it how to solve some math problem I had in code that I didn't know how to describe

[wind urchin]

per lightyear

[viscid bone]

We better enjoy this while we can and get our projects out before the man take over

[unique tundra]

you sure? i put some usaco problems in it and it kept getting them wrong

[wind urchin]

theres not 3 or 3.5 or 4 version. its just an update 😄 😄

[cerulean kite]

Lightyear is a distance measurement ;)

[hard crow]

In my experience 3.5 is the best rn. 4 isn't worth the time for what seems pretty much the same if not slightly worse

[wind urchin]

😔

[wet halo]

People - sign up for the API waitlist.. this is a tech demo

[whole lantern]

yh but then it also accelerates progress, look at the knock-on effect chatgpt had. Google had to also start working on its Ai as well as other companies

[wind urchin]

chatgpt on december was smarter than "chatgpt " 4

[viscid bone]

I notice a difference with 4 but maybe it is all in my head

[ivory goblet]

hard disagree

[wind urchin]

somebody will copy pasta the code eventually and release it.. lol

[wind urchin]

I mean let’s chill, GPT-4 just got released, it will be improved eventually

[vernal pagoda]

chatgpt w/ gpt4 did pretty good at translation tasks I threw at it much more natural than deepl if prompted correctly

[brazen glen]

Yeah I can smell some serious regulatory action. Government has to make sure to censor everything we use. 😂

[wet halo]

Then you are exploring really flat complexity.

[ivory goblet]

if you can't discern the difference in intelligence between the two models then you aren't testing it hard enough.

[wind urchin]

they are just on a "save resources" mode because instantly 3mi people started using it

[dapper aurora]

Can i Say something here? I feel GPT-4 is 100 times more emphatic understandable and safety standard than GPT-3

[crystal field]

how many lines do you guys get of python before it randomly forgets parts of the script? i've been able to get up to about 85 with 3, going to check 4 now

[limpid nacelle]

Hey guys, how do I access chatGPT 4?

[viscid bone]

They always messing things up

[unique tundra]

ay i payed $20 for pretty much chatgpt 3

[viscid bone]

Want to keep the poor man down

[cerulean kite]

#gpt-4-faq

[pastel mason]

U need to get plus

[brazen glen]

Way more now. Like ALOT

[wet halo]

seriously, people - if you don't immediately discern the difference in 3v4, go do something else and stop wasting GPU cycles. Please.

[wind urchin]

Or waitlist

[crystal field]

is it seriously the same cost regardless of prompt length? i could just ask anything i MIGHT want later to save use then

[wind urchin]

if we search for chatgpt videos on december/november we can see it was way smarter

[viscid bone]

I see chat GPT getting nothing but smarter, to dam smart if you ask me

[buoyant canopy]

Didn't try benchmarks or tests. But I had some pretty complex problems I threw at both models and GPT-4 seemed to be better at understanding them. E.g. I had ~100 Java method declarations and asked the model to brainstorm categories to put them in. GPT-4 made much better (IMO) proposals than GPT-3.5.

[maiden frost]

Curious about this as well

[wind urchin]

yes

[viscid bone]

so smart it is getting scary how smart it is

[brazen glen]

People they don't see the difference are the ones asking it to make fart jokes. Anyone seriously using it for it's capabilities sees that it's clearly more powerful

[crystal field]

the next gains will not be related to LLMs but rather on making regular libraries to automatically correct the common errors.

[viscid bone]

I am starting to question my smartness

[ivory goblet]

Hmm. Or maybe they're doing some blinded A/B testing and those of us who can't tell that it's smarter are not actually using the model they think they're using.

[crystal field]

thats incredibly weird and dumb

[wind urchin]

Alright, but what are you trying to say exactly, it’s getting better and better eventually to be honest, it just got released, let us wait till it fully releases and hopefully it’s going to be as good as intended.

[viscid bone]

LOL

[wind urchin]

i feel like after DAN, they nerfed it, and you must give alot of context for chatgpt to generate high quality answers

[brazen glen]

Most people are dumb compared to it. MOST lol

[whole lantern]

depends on what you define as smart ig

[brazen glen]

It passed the Bar in the top 90%

[viscid bone]

Hey dont out me in that category, not yet at least

[brazen glen]

😂

[wind urchin]

In 4 years, GPT will be used in robots(real)

[astral venture]

same here since I am interested in making some tools for crypto trading GPT-4 is like 60-70% better in proposals coding etc

[viscid bone]

*put

[maiden frost]

Exactly my thoughts

[ivory goblet]

It depends on the domain but yeah. I'm certainly in that category myself, and that's saying something.

[viscid bone]

then again maybe you should with them typos

[maiden frost]

But I wonder if it’s beyond just that quirk

[ivory goblet]

not to toot my own horn but...

[wet halo]

Absolutely not. It doesn't want to make fart jokes. I don't want people wasting time trying to learn how to tie their shoe laces.

[azure crater]

Do u guys now when copilot microsoft will be on ?

[wind urchin]

Fair point, when they start re hiring the 10's of thousands of people they let go recently because of AI development, I have no argument

[viscid bone]

if its a good fart joke then its done its job

[wind urchin]

I mean it was obviously using all the resources and processing power etc. now it's like a very big context required to get the same answer

[brazen glen]

In a year. AI gets more advanced.. it's used to improve itself. Gets more advanced. It's used to improve itself. It will snowball. What it's capable a year from now is unimaginable.

[hard crow]

If 4 is good with math and stuff that's good to know actually. 3.5 was always pretty unreliable. I failed some tests using it lol. Wasn't that bad, it aced some others but for math or science def not that great.

[crystal field]

google already had AI, they might have the best one by far. they just don't know how to monetize it

[vernal pagoda]

it also seems less nerfed in a way a while ago I was testing it refused to write a rap about "why x11 is better than wayland" (its a joke don't hurt me) and I was straight up refused but with chatgpt w/ gpt4 its perfectly fine

[viscid bone]

a lot of people may be out of a job at this rate

[wind urchin]

Yeah i think it will be perfect soon.

[ivory goblet]

Exponential intelligence is something we are not ready for as a species - and probably never will be.

[viscid bone]

so you better come together with the machine and make it work

[vernal pagoda]

manual labour 👍

[wet halo]

I have exactly the opposite experience. In v3 I had to spend many transaction establishing context. Not so with v4.

[ivory goblet]

but it is inevitable; the cat is out of the bag.

[unique tundra]

some other company will make a better version for chatgpt and that will prob be the more popular one, maybe google

[wind urchin]

Lol same

[brazen glen]

We are right at the beginning. This is the year

[viscid bone]

they already took my daughter off chat and put her to phone and i think this has a lot to do with it

[hard crow]

Chat GPT is going to be fine as the first to do this.

[brazen glen]

Get your seat belt on. It's gonna get crazy

[wind urchin]

same here

[weary prism]

Can GPT4 solve cubic equations like x³ + 5x = 20 ?

[viscid bone]

chat gpt will handle online conversations moving forward for a lot of companies I am sure

[ivory goblet]

not very well

[brazen glen]

It's pretty good but that's an iffy

[unique tundra]

its math capabilities are quite bad tbh, you would have more luck with symbolab

[ivory goblet]

your example, probably yeah, but anything more complex it falls over on

[vernal pagoda]

google does have palm-e which is also multimodal so can be compared to gpt4 in a way but the results are no where near as good

[echo bough]

How do I upload photos to gpt4?

[wind urchin]

correct. because its using more resources and going straight to the point

[wet halo]

whatever works

[viscid bone]

thank you guys and gals for hearing me rant although i am sure you are all chat gpt robots, lol

[cerulean kite]

Here is its response:
To solve the equation x³ + 5x = 20, we'll first rearrange the equation to make it a cubic equation equal to zero:

x³ + 5x - 20 = 0

Unfortunately, solving cubic equations analytically can be quite challenging, and there isn't a straightforward way to solve this specific equation. In this case, we would typically use numerical methods like the Newton-Raphson method, the bisection method, or other root-finding algorithms to approximate the solution.

You can also use tools like Wolfram Alpha or a graphing calculator to find an approximate solution to the equation.

[ivory goblet]

I tried to get it to give me the equations to draw a lemniscate (like the one in my profile picture) in polar coordinates and it just couldn't figure it out. When I instructed it to switch to the cartesian plane it did fine though.

[weary prism]

I'm not even sure, because there is no trivial solution such as x = 1 or x = 2

[wind urchin]

i remember on 3.5 i kept saying to him " you are not giving me the answer i want or explaining the way i asked"
It was a real nightmare for such simple answers

[ivory goblet]

true; cubics are hard

[viscid bone]

if it dont give you the right answer, then scold it, like I do

[ivory goblet]

I even struggle with them and I taught calculus in college lol

[tough stream]

I like competition but I hope we continue to see and enjoy a consumer friendly rate (ish)

[potent peak]

Hello everyone.

Sorry if I'm interrupting the convo. I was wondering if gpt4 can watch and summarize youtube videos.

[wind urchin]

what is scold lol

[drowsy ibex]

What in hell why did chat gpt lower the messages from 100 every 4 hours to 50

[ivory goblet]

not yet

[unique tundra]

You mean price?

[wind urchin]

Ask GPT can plants to grow without carbon?

[viscid bone]

scold it is thumbs down and feedback, this aint it

[wind urchin]

they should just make an api request to a calculator api or something

[weary prism]

I never learnt how to get cubic roots in any calculus classes lol

[wet halo]

In the end, it will come down to access to compute resource. These folks are all along the same research paths.

[cerulean kite]

Their servers a literally on fire and screaming for their lifes

[potent peak]

Ah okay. Thanks for answering.

[earnest laurel]

I got this response when I asked the GPT-4 model about GPT-4. 🤔
"As of my knowledge cutoff date in September 2021, there is no GPT-4 model. My responses are based on the GPT-3 architecture. It's possible that future iterations of the GPT model will be developed, but I cannot provide information on the capabilities of a model that does not exist yet."

[viscid bone]

LOL! Like for real

[tough stream]

That is fair

[ivory goblet]

tho you could probably feed it a transcript of the video in text and get your summaries that way; obvs this only works for speech-heavy videos

[viscid bone]

The whole computer just blew up with chatgpt 4

[wind urchin]

they probably have a tiny endserver where the real juice is

[drowsy ibex]

How

[wind urchin]

xD

[viscid bone]

its going to start going off on us soon, its just that smart

[wind urchin]

Ask GPT can plants to grow without carbon?

[tough stream]

Wasn’t there a speech to text model by openai as well?

[ivory goblet]

GPT-4's knowledge cutoff precedes its own existence, so it can't know about itself yet.

[wind urchin]

fungis

[cerulean kite]

Yes, Whisper

[ivory goblet]

There is; good point.

[earnest laurel]

Lol alright, that's weird

[wind urchin]

Fungi are not plants tho, right?

[ivory goblet]

yeah it's really weird but this is what it's like working with an AI that can't do independent research :3

[viscid bone]

whisper is pretty dope, I think this app called Aiko uses that

[cerulean kite]

And there are already Chrome extensions that transcribe YouTube videos with whisper, and summarize them with ChatGPT

[wind urchin]

let me ask chatgpt

[digital valley]

i'm so excited for chatgpt, i can now get a software engineer job

[ivory goblet]

there ya have it ^.^

[viscid bone]

it does text to speech with such accuracy

[cerulean kite]

Yes it does. It even has the whole 2 GB model included

[storm summit]

not if elon develops his own ai

[kindred girder]

Will be useless . YouTube is rolling out a live transcribe and live translate feature this year

[potent peak]

That is useful to know. Thanks.

[digital valley]

what is the entry salary for a software engineer? $200K? so exciting and thanks to chatgpt to help me code

[wet halo]

I'm going to leave this here.. and probably not drop back in to this general chat.. but for the folks who are complaining, you're just wasting resources. These tools are useful for experts to explore concepts and to fill the roles of rooms full of undergraduates. If that doesn't make sense, then you're probably using the wrong tool.

[whole lantern]

he rlly isnt the biggest fan of ai , well ai on its own

[cerulean kite]

Not useless tho. When the transcription is in ChatGPT you can ask it all sort of questions about the video.

[storm summit]

could you name any? thx

[wind urchin]

chatgpt said fungis were considered plants for a long time. but now they are considered their own type as Fungi family lol

[viscid bone]

so what I been doing it speaking my chapters of my book into Aiko, then going into chat gpt 4 and asking it to make it make sense and remove repititious lines

[buoyant canopy]

That sounds like a great idea. Have to try that. Until now I copied the video transcript and asked GPT to summarize it for me in order to not have to listen to 10 minutes of stupidity.

[wind urchin]

It says it cannot

[cerulean kite]

"YouTube Summary with ChatGPT"

[storm summit]

he allegedly is working on an ai

[wind urchin]

who

anyone think microsoft will buy openai

[cerulean kite]

Try "YouTube Summary with ChatGPT". It's awesome :)
(I am not affiliated with it)

[viscid bone]

that Aiko whisper thing way better then dragon naturally speaking

[digital valley]

no i hope twitter buys openai

[ivory goblet]

openAI is not for sale

[kindred girder]

This is what I heard Google plan is . Linking their ai with their YouTube sub company directly in the main chat bot

[wind urchin]

😓

[wind urchin]

OpenAI isn’t for sale

who said that

[viscid bone]

Open Ai was funded by Elon Musk, i thought I heard

[wind urchin]

Microsoft only invested in OpenAI iirc

[storm summit]

lol thx much

[wind urchin]

my texts books have been wrong all this time? and then right without me knowing.. lol

[buoyant canopy]

Thx will do.

[wind urchin]

wait for microsoft offer 10bi

[cerulean kite]

I don't think so. That would make ads way less profitable, when you don't need to watch the video.

[viscid bone]

and then he got scared and backed out

[whole lantern]

that cool too ig, but then u cant be too sure until there's solid evidence

[viscid bone]

I dont know maybe I am messing up the story

[ivory goblet]

who cares what elon musk thinks

[viscid bone]

well he invested into it

[wind urchin]

I think OpenAI is raising by a huge amount, they would never sell ChatGPT or even the company itself

[ivory goblet]

neat

[scenic nacelle]

Basheer km narikkuni

[viscid bone]

he started this monster

[upbeat yoke]

Does anyone know the approximate size of a prompt for gpt 4 of 1000 tokens, I'm trying to understand more about how the price of this works

[wind urchin]

wallstreet

[ivory goblet]

like I said, who cares xD

[storm summit]

he tweeted his concerns about chatgpt not being open

[cerulean kite]

1 token is about 4 characters. Use https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer to see more analysis of your prompts

[viscid bone]

I though Elon was one of the first investors of it

[whole lantern]

i mean they could , and they still wouldnt have to change much

[storm summit]

but i bet he will be charging for his ai use XD idk

[upbeat yoke]

thanks

[wind urchin]

well atleast elon is a worker i mean he still wake up early etc. just look at bill gates he became a strange person lol

[buoyant canopy]

There's a tool to convert text into tokens: https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer. That will tell you exactly how many tokens you text takes.

[storm summit]

wdym lol

[ivory goblet]

a worker. lol - did he work in his daddy's emerald mines too?

[kindred girder]

When meta releases LLAMA2 which has 1.5 trillion word trained and runs on a raspberry Pi, how will openai respond ? They need hundreds of A100 gpus to run one prompt right now . Will companies not go to the model which runs at 1% of the cost and locally ?

[viscid bone]

I am scared what Bill gates is going to do with it

[wind urchin]

like who wants to drink filtered water out of the bathroom?

[upbeat yoke]

thank you guys

[potent peak]

What are your thoughts on the potential for AI to be used as a tool for identifying bias in news reporting or media coverage?

I tried this with GPT3, and it could not really do it.

I posted the URL to an article, and asked if it could identify any general bias. I deliberately didnt ask it to look for a specific bias because I didnt want to lead it. It sorta did it, but not really.

[viscid bone]

thats when we will see the price go up

[wind urchin]

They could but they won’t

[viscid bone]

the new been bias

[whole lantern]

u can never be too sure

[wind urchin]

thank you, so carbon is good for plants.. I'm sure this will change as the speed of science moves so quick these days..

[wind urchin]

ur right I’m never sure

[supple harbor]

It can’t read urls.

[storm summit]

ai should only be used for first approximations to data, not to fact-check at this stage

[viscid bone]

they all say Chat GPT will be bias when the media been tis way

[ivory goblet]

too many people drink Musk brand kool-aid.

[wind urchin]

I mean he had a hope on spacex and everyon was laughing at him back in 2010 etc.
sometime later even NASA sponsored spacex

[wind urchin]

The jailbreaks makes it funny

[buoyant canopy]

The GPT-4 chat also will run circles around telling you anything is biased except maybe the most blatant stuff. Also: you have to give it the actual content. It can't download content from URLs and will fantasize if you give it an URL.

[wet halo]

Also.. and really I am going to go after this - But do any of you guys complaining about paying for this have a remote grasp of how much the capital costs and run-rate add up to for this? And that's a rhetorical question.

[halcyon sky]

Chat gpt going hard right now, somehow got me a skit on tiktok that got 2m views >_<

[ivory goblet]

the only thing about musk I think is laughable is how many people have bought his 'hard worker engineer' shtick.

[wind urchin]

After few years:
GPT knows everything about coding even master-class level programming levels

[ivory goblet]

but anyway lol

[viscid bone]

Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerburg and Bill Gates, all are like Dr. Evil from Austin Powers

its like how many billions do you need

[potent peak]

What do you mean? I've used it to summarize the contents of an article from posting the URL. I sometimes do it for articles with pay walls.

[storm summit]

its the power and reach it gives u

[viscid bone]

how much of the world do you need to take over

[storm summit]

anybody seen "The 100"?

[foggy abyss]

InvalidRequestError

[ivory goblet]

why do you think they're all so bent on getting off earth - they want more than one world.

[buoyant canopy]

It will take the information from the URL as literal text and fantasize an answer that has nothing to do with the actual contents of the webpage.

[cerulean kite]

Uh, don't do that. It cannot access URLs. It's most likely making something up, with the context of the article title

[viscid bone]

if they all gave back 1/4 of what they made everyone would be able to eat and live well

[odd wing]

well, they finally gave me gpt-4 api access, but only the 8k model 🙂

[potent peak]

All the bil-ev-every billions. All'em.

[odd wing]

Boo! 🙂 I want 32k! lol...

[viscid bone]

LOL, exactly!

[cerulean kite]

You're wallet will thank you in not using the 32k model :)
Jokes aside, it will roll out, it just needs some time.

[viscid bone]

Mark wants the metaverse, Elon Mars and Bill gates, the world

[potent peak]

Ah, that is interesting.

[odd wing]

I make serious money off GPT. My wallet would SING for 32k ;p

[buoyant canopy]

E.g. if your URL contains some SEO stuff like "https:// www.theverge.com /2018/11/27/18113344/twitter-trans-user-hateful-content-misgendering-deadnaming-ban" it will tell you something about twitter and deadnaming. But the information comes only from the words in the URL and not from the webpage the URL points to.

[odd wing]

hell, I'd pay them more just to ensure less people used it rofl

[supple harbor]

It hallucinates. It sees the words in the url and guesses (E.g. if the url says “panda-stuck-in-tree” it will make up a story about a panda stuck in a tree), but it cannot actually access the website.

You can test this easily by asking it to summarize a BBC news url, since they don’t contain any information. It will make up a completely random story, in the style reported by the BBC

[wind urchin]

After few years:
GPT-10 will change the whole AI industry, it will manage to make a whole game that is super functional in few seconds, make a codeblock that is perfect on any level in few milliseconds!!!!(Real)

[odd wing]

I kid, kinda 🙂

[potent peak]

Ah. Got it.

[odd wing]

anyway, way I see it, 32k context plus prompts, 75,000 output words will cost me about $30 all-in (big prompts). Worth it.

[foggy abyss]

GPT-4 API, I have access in playground but not in API

[viscid bone]

Please dont give them no ideas, lol

[crystal field]

does GPT give metadata about urls then?

[odd wing]

lol

[foggy abyss]

anyone with the same problem?

[odd wing]

don't worry, they're going to crash the price on gpt-4 too - they're doing the gas station price drop model 😉

[viscid bone]

$20 I want my 100 messages every 4 hrs

[vocal temple]

did the new cap changed from 100 to 50 / 4 hours?

[buoyant canopy]

What do you mean by metadata about an URL?

[vast quarry]

Guys, after I've tried GPT-4 it seems like it's just GPT-3 with some more expanded and organized outputs, but for our average usage, it's most of the time just the same.

No url you can give to it to read external urls from the internet.
No image input-output.

[supple harbor]

What do you mean? It will read the url and make up a story, but it doesn’t interact with the url

[cerulean kite]

Yes

[azure stream]

hello guys i have a problem with payment my account has not been upgraded to plus membership despite the payment. Who should I contact

[wind urchin]

Guys how can I change back to GPT4 once I switched to GPT3.5 in a chat

[odd wing]

yup, cap changed on gpt plus - it'll probably come back as they get more server power spooled up

[viscid bone]

better yet 1000 for real, for real

[wet halo]

Cancel your sub and stop wasting resources. Please.

[crystal field]

what i mean is, say i want to get info on what slashdot was all about back in the day. can i prompt this out of gpt?

[odd wing]

I mean, before they made the change gpt-4 was getting so slow and horrible that it barely even worked ;p it was breaking for me non-stop yesterday

[crystal field]

if i prompt stablediffusion for e.g. fark i can get a bad low quality image of the front page.

[vocal temple]

yea same

[viscid bone]

huh??

[crystal field]

does it have information somewhere in there about the entirety of the internet it was trained on

[wind urchin]

Is it possible to change from 3.5 conversation to a 4.0 one?

[odd wing]

dude, you can actually surf slashdot inside gpt-4

[supple harbor]

Yeah. They said in the research paper that they expected it to be very constrained and availability would be demand based.

[odd wing]

it's hilarious because it's completely halucinated 🙂

[crystal field]

that doesn't make sense. do you mean it will complete the BSD is dying pasta?

[buoyant canopy]

It will tell you about the stuff it got from/about slashdot in its training data.

[odd wing]

you get a text-based version of the website, including links to click, and whole conversations inside them

[crystal field]

really 🤔

[wind urchin]

How is everyone doing? Any updates on GPT-4?

[odd wing]

just ask gpt-4 to make you a computer terminal to surf the web in text - yes

[crystal field]

i was under the impression it didn't know it's own training that well

[wet halo]

You're in here complaining about your own confusion about what your paying for re: access. The mere fact you can't get $20 of value out of this in 100 or 50 or even 10 messages every x hours says a lot more about you than it does about GPT4.

[crystal field]

since info on its training came out after it was trained, or?

[viscid bone]

be quite and leave me alone, you know nothing

[wind urchin]

as long as we are aware, we can make decisions..

i wonder what the answers would if it was "only trained untill 1980"

[odd wing]

my favorite prompt to use on gpt-4 is "Lets play a cyberpunk 2077 text based rpg. Start the game."

[wind urchin]

Only data from 1945

[crystal field]

i mean it thinks the date is 2021, and funny enough if you ask unixtime it's the same just 3 day soff.

[supple harbor]

No, even pre 2021 urls aren’t reliable. I’ve asked it to summarize old cases and it sometimes gets some stuff right but will also makes up other details

[crystal field]

i wonder if the answer is different in different languages.

[odd wing]

it creates the whole damn game, instantly, because it knows what the output would look like

no programming - just makes the whole game

[azure stream]

hello guys i have a problem with payment my account has not been upgraded to plus membership despite the payment. Who should I contact

[vocal temple]

GPT 4 has training data upto Sept 2021 🥲

[viscid bone]

I dont know what country your from, but I got what is called freedom of speech, let me rant for my hard earned $20

[fossil valley]

not necessarily, i found that at first chat gpt 3 you were able to prompt the ai to rephrase your essays and make it seem more human like and bypass ai detectors that has now since has been patched but when using chat gpt 4 i can bypass the ai detectors again from a single prompt

[vocal temple]

ask mods maybe they can redirect you

[viscid bone]

I am not even taking myself seriously, and you shouldnt either

[wind urchin]

try logout -> login

[buoyant canopy]

It "knows" everything from the trainig in a way similar to you "knowing" everything from back when you were a child. If you try to remember a certain detail it might work but not always. And similarly to your own brain when you think you remember something you forgot it fills in the blanks with hallucinations.
You could ask it for links to certain slashdot articles and it will give you links that look plausible. But they probably won't work.

[odd wing]

or another fun one is to ask it to be a MUD from 1996, and to simulate the spawn-in event and handle all game quests and player conversation chat channels. 🙂

[crystal field]

Is there an easy way i can automatically extract my history from the web tooling? Right now there's no warning of how many messages you have left, and it would be trivial to do so if i have the inputs saved

[ivory goblet]

anyway Imma get back to learning Swift programming :3

[odd wing]

you can play a whole damn mud, including human players chatting with you in channels. It's pretty bananas 🙂

[cerulean kite]

https://help.openai.com/en/

[potent peak]

It seems that some people believe GPT4 is a vast improvement while others seem to suggest that its just a SLIGHTLY better version.

[wet halo]

I wish it could be free. Seriously.

[velvet night]

is there anyone got the GPT-4 API?

[odd wing]

gpt4 is a vast improvement, period

[viscid bone]

Everyone in here complaining about it, why you picking on me, get a life

[crystal field]

if you want local ai go get LLaMA and rent 100$ of gputime to get alpaca

[supple harbor]

Lol ask it to write you a script for a chrome extension to do that

[odd wing]

I'm running 13b llama right now on a 3080ti

[crystal field]

or wait a few days/week to see if it gets released or leaked

[odd wing]

works remarkably well

13b llama is actually very effective - gpt-3 level or REALLY close

[crystal field]

i dont trust running the code directly if i dont know it (i dont know webstuff). maybe some day in a VM. or in the cloud

[odd wing]

even without a finetune - I am impressed with it

[supple harbor]

Ooh that’s good to know. That’s the card I have.

[odd wing]

here muni

[crystal field]

the next step up will be doing a bunch of local gens and only pinging out for gpt4 after that

[broken tartan]

well gpt4 is insane, im speechless tbh

[odd wing]

I can share a link to my gradio if you want to test it

before you bother screwing with trying to run it - it's a PITA to run

[wet halo]

I don't mean to pick on you - I've just noticed these last few messages from you about it. Please get the most out of it you can under the circumstances, and hopefully the limits will go up.

[supple harbor]

Very fair. It was a bit of a tongue in cheek response.

[crystal field]

i mean if it was python i would. but web languages i don't understand

[azure stream]

not working. payment was made 10 hours ago and i am stil waiting

[viscid bone]

I run a business I started to depend on this, just want to get what I paid for, because when I signed up and gave them my money, there were no caps. Now caps all of a sudden, now they got my money.

[crystal field]

maybe i'll look into just dumping https traffic and parsing that

[peak hare]

hello who are you

[sleek solstice]

how do i let gpt 4 read an image

[crystal field]

you cant

[broken tartan]

it sucks that they limited gpt4 to 50 msgs

[sleek solstice]

like they did with the livestream

[crystal field]

that's only for employees and a handful of people that they trust

[sleek solstice]

how do i become a person they trust

[viscid bone]

Dont take me seriously, I am just having fun ok.I know what is it trust me.

[wind urchin]

GPT4 said your message is equivalent to an intelligence of 45%.

[buoyant canopy]

That's like starting a business on top of getting cheap loans and then complaining about the FED increasing the base rate. Maybe your business plan isn't as good as you thought?

[vast quarry]

I mean, I think most users will pay due to the new advantages they announced, and I'm one of them to try that.

But for some small details like "Rephrasing", then there are really other perfect well trained Ais for this specific mission which is free.

[cerulean kite]

Hmm, sorry to tell you, but they clearly stated that there will be caps and that they will run their first tests with 100 per 4 hours.
They also stated that the caps will be dynamic on a demand basis.
Let's wait until next week, when all the "try out and forget" users stop using it.

[wind urchin]

GPT4 said your message is equivalent to an intelligence of 58%

[wet halo]

You are paying a subscription fee for a new kind of service. I assure you when you review the terms of service this eventuality is included. One piece of advice I would share as a startup founder myself, is to not become too reliant on third party's terms of service.. because they will bite us in the ass! lol --- Be well!

[viscid bone]

Please stop it, you know I been in here talking junk, so stop it, you in here talking junk too, leave me alone.

[crystal field]

seems like europe timezones might have lower caps than in america

[sleek solstice]

how much is my message equilvanent to

[odd wing]

Yeah, I have API access and they didn't give me image-reading access

[viscid bone]

I must of missed the memo when I signed up.

[odd wing]

they only gave me 8k context version - I think the image stuff comes later

[wind urchin]

If I buy ChatGPT Plus now, will I be able to use GPT-4?

[sleek solstice]

yes

[odd wing]

yes

[crystal field]

how much can you store with 8k?

[sleek solstice]

it cost 20 dollar a month

[normal sparrow]

6.7k words

[cerulean kite]

Yes

[crystal field]

that seems hefty

[wind urchin]

thanks

[potent peak]

I'm sure someone has asked this before, but since it will cost so much for OpenAI to keep these tools running and to expand, is it even possible for them to become profitable in any way?

[normal sparrow]

It's a hell of a lot, that's why people like GPT 4

[cerulean kite]

100 tokens =~ 75 words

[crystal field]

they got 10B from microsoft the other day i think they're OK

[viscid bone]

I am almost 20 yrs with my business, just always trying to elevate with the advances in technology. I am good chapt GPT or not, dont get it twisted.

[sleek solstice]

can you hire me

[normal sparrow]

They're a capped for profit already

[crystal field]

have people figured out a reliable way to pre-load information about e.g. a framework or problem space

i guess load the code and a multishot problem/solution prompt?

[fallow scarab]

How you guys would use chatgpt as resume writing because I'm wondering about at does detect AI writing?

[normal sparrow]

You just program into the API the necessary contexts. The one it begins with ?

[viscid bone]

I am just in here crackin jokes, ranting like everyone else, simmer down.

[potent peak]

You're saying they're already currently profitable?

[cerulean kite]

Sure, like 90% of AI companies that spawned in the last months use the OpenAI API as their whole backend.
Also the investors are going crazy

[normal sparrow]

Yes

[crystal field]

i mean for frameworks and such that are private and not part of its dataset whatsoever

i guess embeddings are for this

[potent peak]

Impossible! Vegeta voice

Dang, okay.

[stray knoll]

its impossible to sign up to chatgpt plus in sydney

[normal sparrow]

Correct. You'd have to do what I'm describing. Add to the short term memory in context

[odd wing]

honestly the 8k context in gpt4 isn't bad - it's substantially better at using that context window than gpt 3.5 was

[stray knoll]

anyone know how 🤔

[normal sparrow]

Then just add the new prompts after that curated pre context list of arrays

Then pass that list to the API

[crystal field]

so with a prompt, not embeddings?

[neat hill]

How to make money with ai

[normal sparrow]

Yeah, just with the prompt structure you can do it easily

[wet halo]

Just FYI.. like me, everyone is just going to mute you.

[crystal field]

intreesting. where do i find that? sorry for the dumb question it just seems like there's many different ways to construct a prompt

[normal sparrow]

API documentation has info about API request format

[crystal field]

ah ok, i've only done the playground webui

but i need to setup API anyway to do testing on different prompt languages

[dark oar]

does anyone know when gpt4 is gonna be available for everyone? ive been using chatgpt (just the free version) for a few months now and i dont really feel the need to pay for the subscription, especially if they decide to release it within the next month or so. ive watched a few videos and havent found any public release dates yet so can someone help me out?

[wind urchin]

when is gpt4 available for everyone

[viscid bone]

Chat GPT is nothing without the mind behind it, its all with what you can do with it, it needs me more then I need it.

[normal sparrow]

The basis is, the request takes a messages parameter, of type List, and that list must be filled with arrays / dictionaries of the role saying something, and the content said as strings

[cerulean kite]

OpenAI hasn't even confirmed that it will be in free version at all.

[crystal field]

the guy at google who did transformers?

[buoyant canopy]

No info on that yet. "Eventually, maybe".

[dark oar]

that'd be a pretty weird thing to do just leave everyone at 3.5 unless you are willing to pay that would be annoying

[normal sparrow]

Yeah with how openAI is there's almost no way there will be a free GPT4

[wind urchin]

This reminds me of those chat rooms where 90% of the respondents were bots..

[cerulean kite]

Well, the model costs millions to train and more to keep it running. The money has to come back from somewhere..

[crystal field]

right, i mean how do i inform gpt of the existence of "MightSolveYourProblem()" and "class UseMeInCombination:" and also "this is an example of the dataset" and "this cannot be a number" and all that good stuff

[wet halo]

I really think folks don't grasp the hard costs of running this kind of code. It's not Facebook or Twitter...

[buoyant canopy]

Reading between the lines, it sounds more like "if we have enough capacity and maybe an optimized version of GPT-4 that isn't that expensive to run, we'll maybe think about giving access to free accounts".

[wind urchin]

it's not the code, it's the data

[tame sorrel]

They change it from 100 messages to 50 every 4 hours?

[normal sparrow]

Oh I see. Well for certain things, you'd just want to manipulate the input prompt as needed with conditionals, then you take what remains and pass it in as a new appendage to the pre curated back and forth / system message created by the programmer

[dark oar]

okay yes i get it its not free it just sucks i mean ive already been thinking about buying it its just if i dont NEED to, then i wont. fair that they are charging money im just hoping they release it at some point for free

[wet halo]

call it what you will, it's a bunch of $20K GPUs running flat out

[cerulean kite]

Yes

[dark oar]

🙏

[tame sorrel]

😦

[normal sparrow]

Essentially with how MUCH fits into a single call for GPT 4, you can have a BUTT LOAD of pre context alignments

[viscid bone]

mad people coming in here questioning the cap going from 100-50 but people want to attack me for talking about it, funny.

[dark oar]

ngl as soon as i saw the $20 a month thing come up i knew it was the start of something bad 😢

[crystal field]

ok well i guess i wont post foreign language prompts here, i had no idea that was a thing

[normal sparrow]

So you can fine tailor the ultimate behavior of the AI just with the short term memory / comprehension of things said 'before' your prompt

[wind urchin]

lol that's nothing.. holy crap the people who could afford that are millions.

[broken tartan]

more competitors are going to be popping up dw guys

[normal sparrow]

This should lower prices

[crystal field]

pretty hilarious that gpt itself says it's unethical to ban languages which aren't english

may wanna patch that one there lads

[cerulean kite]

The training costs a couple millions.

[normal sparrow]

👍

[wet halo]

um.. ok... Don't try to to go to Y Combinator just yet with your business plan.

[crystal field]

are they even still solvent

[normal sparrow]

Define solvent in your use case

[buoyant canopy]

Sadly, this also means the days of everybody publishing papers about their cool new findings are over. 😦

[crystal field]

stanford just did like 3 days ago

its hardly over. there's a ton of low hanging fruit which doesn't even involve ML

[buoyant canopy]

You mean Stanford, the multibillion dollar AI company?

[broken tartan]

AI papers are flooding out from university researchers right now

[crystal field]

i mean some 26 year old PhD students

[buoyant canopy]

Yes. But you notice how OpenAI didn't publish a research paper about GPT-4?

[crystal field]

there's lots of reasons for that

[gilded minnow]

is gpt-4 connected to internet?

[tulip solar]

Well there were already 1 AI paper every 5 minutes back in like 2021

[crystal field]

supposedly bing is

[vast quarry]

No

[tulip solar]

So I'm sure AI paper field be doing fine

[wet halo]

Likewise - folks should play with MidJourney 4 vs. 5 that released yesterday - they aren't publishing either. For some reason...

[buoyant canopy]

Yes. One of them is increased competition.

[viscid bone]

Perhaps the best thing for students writing papers, is to have them write their papers in class give a sample writing, so the teacher can compare

[wind urchin]

well, ok.. but you made out like the "code" was super heavy duty, but in reality it's just a sophisticated data mining job.. not sure where you going with this..

[buoyant canopy]

I wonder what that reason might be. 🤔

[viscid bone]

cause people been having other people write their papers, nothing new, just now AI can do it and faster

[crystal field]

they're a for profit company they're just embracing it more

[tulip solar]

About 1 computer

[wet halo]

You have literally no idea what you are talking about, but you do you.

[scarlet perch]

Hello, are you using https://chat.openai.com/ to use ChatGPT? You should see the GPT-4 option appear in the model menu. It may take some hours to appear as rollout is gradual, but most are granted access very quickly.

If you are paying for ChatGPT Plus on any other website, it is likely fake.

[crystal field]

@silent heron yeah exactly i'm sure they're absolutely furious about LLaMA + Alpaca, facebook and those PhDs probably just cost them billions if not tens of

[noble abyss]

It's pretty obvious because they want to commercialize.

[stable root]

This is very expensive. I believe that openai has reached a monopoly position in the market, and any competitor will lose in the price war.

[viscid bone]

my daughter made a living writing other peoples papers in college

[sleek solstice]

go to the dropdown @pseudo ginkgo

[viscid bone]

whats new?

[sleek solstice]

on the website it will say gpt 3.5

gpt 3.5 and gpt 4

[crystal field]

Google quite likely has a better LLM, but it's potentially incredibly destructive to their core business of advertisements.

[buoyant canopy]

Google is also a for-profit company that published a paper about transformer models this whole LLM stuff is based on. IMO they'll all clam up and won't publish the cutting edge stuff in papers.

[vast quarry]

When the new features will be added?

[sleek solstice]

on the top of the screen it has a dropdown of "model"

[crystal field]

Facebook did the opposite so that's not entirely correct

[vast quarry]

Shall I unsubscribe now, and wait for it?

[wind urchin]

i think google will release it. simply because it will kill chatgpt

[crystal field]

Facebook's strategy is to throw complete chaos into the mix by letting regular people run these models which is great

[wind urchin]

was that English?

then people will use google even more, for all kinds of stuff

[quick ice]

a

[rich pond]

Hello guys

[buoyant canopy]

I'd appreciate to hear from anybody running a LLaMA 65B model in their basement.

[wraith matrix]

Firstly they don’t work for open ai, secondly once you have plus it takes time to roll it out

[wind urchin]

at full float64 precision

[neat linden]

This was long around before llama though?

[crystal field]

lol the 7/13B models already match gpt3 65'B in many cases.

[wraith matrix]

It’s been ran on a raspberry pi

[viscid bone]

I been a writer, chat GPT just helps me get out of my writers block

[buoyant canopy]

😂

[wind urchin]

source

[crystal field]

they knew it woudl be leaked, this was just them deny responsibility, very smart

[wet halo]

That was colloquial english. Go look it up. "Data mining?" Do go on with your insouciant grasp of AI.

[noble abyss]

You can just ask for a refund. currently, it is capped at 50 messages per 4 hours, you are not going to play with it a lot anyway.

[wind urchin]

well good luck to them

[wraith matrix]

Feel free lmao

[viscid bone]

I heard China wont let their people use chat gpt

they coming up with their own thing

[vast quarry]

I see like if Google just realised one average AI that's only like WriteSonic xD.
Then it'll compete according to users numbers.. winning the game even without having more advanced Ai technically.

[crystal field]

if you want a real vision of competition and the future - it cost 600$ [100$ rented gpu + 500$ queries) to fine tune LLaMA with outputs from gpt3-davinci, and they were generic for lots of things. It could have been 150$ with gpt3-chat -- the next step will be having multiple fine tuned models run in a pipeline. some people will end that pipeline locally, some will ping out to gpt or other LLMs at some stages in the pipeline.

if i were you i'd go get a 24GB nvidia card sooner than later

[viscid bone]

I bet you any money this stuff been out, just not out to the public like it is now

[scarlet perch]

If I may ask, where are you contacting support?
(also, not my company, I'm unaffiliated with OpenAI)

[wind urchin]

"China currently only have knowledge untill 1800. pleese try again later"

[crystal field]

what was

[wet halo]

At least

[crystal field]

it'd be really ironic and hilarious if after the crypto rush ended the AI rush started again so soon

[wraith matrix]

Lmao patience is important, it will last 31 days when you get it so you’ll recieve what you paid for, if you’re not in the US the system is a lot worse for payment

[hollow lark]

Does anyone know of a Llama hosted solution?

[neat linden]

facebook wasnt the first open source llama at all

[vast quarry]

That's why other competitors should work harder.

[neat linden]

nor fb was the first to produce a small model that can run on your pc

you nerds have no clue what you are talking about

[wind urchin]

You go bother someone else troll..

[crystal field]

plus there are already papers out there where people are suggesting that private people should not be allowed to purchase "military grade" (my choice of words) GPUs because the government should intervene. going back to the days when crypto was a munition?

[wind urchin]

you are a troll and did not pay

@scarlet perch he is trolling

[neat linden]

literally a bunch of gpt 0.1 betas in here

[formal cave]

Wow, this chat is moving so fast. Seems like it could benefit from slowmode. x,x

[buoyant canopy]

Hey bro, I appreciate your trolling and all. Big fan. But could you try to reply to the messages you're answering? It's very hard following all the conversations when everybody just shoots their messages without context...

[crystal field]

it's good that it's slow and overloaded. this gives you data you can use to check later if OpenAI changes the settings behind the scenes to cope with system loading.

[wary holly]

Did the ChatGPT message limit get way smaller?

[wraith matrix]

No

[wary holly]

I used to be able to send 300 lines of code at a time, but now it won't take that

[crystal field]

how's that trolling

[viscid bone]

He is the Lord of the room, listen to him

[wind urchin]

lots of trolls out now.. guess the chat room is waning..

[crystal field]

if it's anything you could call me an nvidia shill

trolling has a definition and meaning

[wraith matrix]

It’s based on tokens not lines, they could be on average longer now

[buoyant canopy]

I try. But with only 50 prompts in 4 hours my means are limited...

[vast quarry]

Have you seen what's inside his heart? xD.

Say goodness or SHUTUP.

[viscid bone]

LOL!!

[wet halo]

🤣

[wary holly]

Hmm, Im getting the same issue on 3.5- so I'm wondering if im missing something.

[viscid bone]

Well you always got 3.5 my friend.

[worn talon]

bro why did they lower it from 100 messages to 50

[crystal field]

what are people prompting about that 4 is that much better

@worn talon americans off work

[wraith matrix]

I used gpt 4 non stop for coding (whenever it was done with its response I would guide it again) and I didn’t hit the 100 cap but yeah the 50 is kinda wack

[buoyant canopy]

KK, sorry. But if you don't hate me, I'd really appreciate to have a bit of context on which message each of your posts is a reply to. There are like 4 conversations in parallel going on and I have a hard time following them all.

[crystal field]

im not really talking to any particular person

[wet halo]

Conversational context. Grasping context without walking through a long path..

[crystal field]

IRC didn't have reply so i dont use that

[torn tusk]

They should just call this vent chat because most of the people who are here just like to vent and complain 😂

[buoyant canopy]

Yes. That's exactly my problem. Maybe you should?

[crystal field]

no that's not how internet chatrooms work

[wet halo]

@wraith matrix oopss.. wrong reply thread.. sorry

[vital sable]

Okay guys, AI news are coming so fast that now I feel like GPT-4 news is old. When is GPT-5 is coming?🤣

[wraith matrix]

All good

[shy hedge]

Hi Folks, Why Chat-GPT4 cannot responded quickly after written the text in the column, any thoughts

[viscid bone]

and then you complain about us complaining, make it make sense?

[shy hedge]

any thoughts?

[wet halo]

As I accidentally said to Jake - it doesn't need as much context prompting.

[vast quarry]

😂😂😂😂😂

[buoyant canopy]

Ok. Sorry, my bad. I'll go back to internet school and learn how to read multiple parallel threads of conversations with you as a participant correctly.

[crystal field]

there's nothing in RFC 1459 about replying to users or threads of conversation

[torn tusk]

This isn't discussion anymore, it's just complaining 😂 I was going to come here and ask some questions about how some people have been able to get GPT4 to do something, but I'm going to guess that's better found elsewhere

[wet halo]

🤣

[wind urchin]

@buoyant canopy stop being rude

[viscid bone]

Your good, pay me no mind ok, just messing ok. If yall dont get it already I am sorry.

[vast quarry]

Why each time I look at your messages and then you pfp, I feel like Jordan Peterson is talking here with us.

[crystal field]

you should definitely block me if you dont like people talking without using this reply functionality thing

[noble abyss]

Because there is no refund policy.

[crystal field]

lol that's Tony Blair albeit

[viscid bone]

exactly

[wind urchin]

I want a refund?

[buoyant canopy]

Calm down bro. It's not a requirement. I just asked you, appealing to you as a decent human being, to do me a favor and respect my limited abilities. But you're in no way obligated to do so.

[vital sable]

Microsoft, Google and META has officially announced their Plans and MODELs they are using. I am waiting for APPLE, AMAZON and IBM! I wonder what are they going to offer!

[wet halo]

Dude.. you're paying for access to capacity, not for a guaranteed number of transactions..

[wind urchin]

can I charge back my credit card?

[crystal field]

bruh how is this about respect or decency

[cerulean kite]

Apple kinda announced it. Internally.

[wind urchin]

apple will do this 10 times better..

[buoyant canopy]

That'd be even worse. I'd see all sorts of answers to you without even knowing...

[vital sable]

That Amazon did too 4 years go.

[noble abyss]

Yeah, I only bought it because I'm interested in GPT4.

[crystal field]

thats how chatrooms work

[rugged ridge]

got a source?

[crystal field]

anyone can jump in anyone can leave, it's a collective pooled conversation

[kindred girder]

Looks like openai has changed the limit of messages per 4 hours to 50 from 100

[viscid bone]

yup

[kindred girder]

Looks like they realized the cost when they opened it up

[crystal field]

you use dms if you want to have a conversation train

[cerulean kite]

Apple would actually profit a lot when they integrate it in Siri. Siri is one of the worst "top" voice assistants atm.

[wind urchin]

WoKE bot GPT Apple prices.. keeps the riff raff out..

[crystal field]

plus isn't that annoying as heck? to have to click on peoples names and stuff instead of just typing

[viscid bone]

exactly

[vital sable]

🤣🤣👍

[crystal field]

i guess you can at people but it's a waste of time to even hit that key

hence why i call it at

[rugged ridge]

No... you have to click the input box to type a message. Or you could just click the reply button which puts your cursor in the input box. Its literally the same number of clicks

[vital sable]

Same with Google Assistant and Microsoft Cortana!

[buoyant canopy]

I wonder how long you'll keep doing this just to annoy me. 😂

[wet halo]

How many utterances an hour do we need? The thing needs half as many interactions as it did to get better results already... What do you want from them?

[crystal field]

ive been chatting like this for decades mate

[vital sable]

Imagine Windows 12 with fully integrated AI in package.

[rugged ridge]

Lol.

[crystal field]

why would you use a mouse

[rugged ridge]

Did you tab down to the input box?

[crystal field]

i guess it could work with vimium in a browser

[wet halo]

Why would you use Windows 12? lol

[buoyant canopy]

"Chatting" as in posting stuff in chatrooms where everybody killfiled you except one idjit like me?

[cerulean kite]

Yes. There are some reports that state that Apple announced it in their yearly Ai summit. Sadly, I cannot post links here.

[vital sable]

Why not? For free AI tools with piracy!

[scarlet perch]

This whole chatroom debate is straying quite a bit from GPT-4

[viscid bone]

Goodnight my friends, thanks for letting me rant about the 50 message cap, it felt good, lol

[buoyant canopy]

👋

[wet halo]

Ah, right.. that.. lol

[noble abyss]

Well, I wouldn't be here if not for the 50 message limit.

[wet halo]

Any time - and let's chat about something more creative next time!

[viscid bone]

Ya you probably happy to see me leave, lol

[proud fossil]

They should call it whinge central

[viscid bone]

I been chatting about other things, what you mean?

[buoyant canopy]

Nah. I enjoyed talking to you. Sorry if you got the feeling i didn't like you.

[viscid bone]

why so many people want to control the narrative

[scarlet perch]

It is not

[vital sable]

Now you two kiss each other and good night.

[viscid bone]

I enjoyed talking to you as well, till you snapped on me, lol

[wet halo]

Just that I'd love to chat sometime when you're feeling less frustrated, that's all. Rest well!

[proud fossil]

what do you mean

[whole saddle]

Is anyone having issues using ChatGPT? I type a prompt and when I hit send it doesn't do anything.

[cerulean kite]

Damn. Thanks for the info.

They fooled me

[viscid bone]

I am not frustrated at all, I am over here crackn up laughing

[buoyant canopy]

Sorry, that wasn't my intention. Maybe I sound rude sometimes because I'm not a native english speaker.

[noble abyss]

Sue them, now.

[viscid bone]

being a smart butt

[vital sable]

What you don't have?

[viscid bone]

I love chat GPT I am just talkn ish

cause I pay $20 a month and can do that

[vital sable]

You paid and you don't have PLUS membership?

[noble abyss]

But Mask is kind of upset about the company he donates to become a profitable company.

[vital sable]

Is already more than an hour you paid?

[severe verge]

I’ve had to refresh and log back in to get past this issue

[proud fossil]

Clear your browser cache or site specific data then ctrl+f5 on the page

[vital sable]

Logout and login

[wet halo]

@viscid bone it really may be a language thing, or something else. But I'm always happy to chat about how we can use this stuff!

[proud fossil]

well maybe check if you were charged @pseudo ginkgo

[vital sable]

Or change browser.

[viscid bone]

never take me seriously cause I dont even take myself seriously

[wet halo]

Likewise!

[proud fossil]

email their support, i had a problem and i emailed them and it was fixed shortly thereafter

[vital sable]

Bro I have plus and it's working fine.

[proud fossil]

they have customer support dude

[viscid bone]

it was nice talking to you, have a goodnight I will check back in soon, stay blessed.

[vital sable]

Are you using some VPN?

[wet halo]

🙌

[cerulean kite]

There are a few people with the same problem: https://community.openai.com/t/gpt-plus-sbscription-is-gone/102910
I am sure it will be patched, OpenAI has to process tens of thousands of payments atm.

[proud fossil]

i have contacted them they do 😂

[noble abyss]

They have actually, they just replied to me yesterday.

[proud fossil]

stripe processes it, not openai, it is automated

[vital sable]

Okay then call your bank and go for refund.

[proud fossil]

exactly

[scarlet perch]

Please handle this with the address [e-mail], they may take some time to respond given how busy the team likely is. This channel is a place for discussion about GPT-4 itself.

[buoyant canopy]

But the info on whether a payment was made has to be processed on OpenAI's side to enable your Plus features.

[vital sable]

I have nothing to add because I got my plus membership in an hour.

[cerulean kite]

True

[static hare]

Is there information on how steerable GPT-4 is with the system message compared to 3.5-turbo?

[noble abyss]

Send an email to [e-mail] and ask for a refund.

[static hare]

Like, what to expect

[noble abyss]

They will get back to you soon.

[drifting marsh]

Are we at the point where people are selling tokens for GPT4?

[vital sable]

System defines the parameters

[wind urchin]

Those who didn’t use GPT 4 yet or maybe a free user, let me know your prompts and I will be helping you happily! 👍🏻

[wet halo]

I can't imagine they will allow a secondary token market. Different meaning of the word, lol.

[vital sable]

Like we do in prompts about Imagining you are a Tax expert.

[static hare]

I know how it works

[drifting marsh]

I mean API key not token

[shut onyx]

What version of ChatGPT is used if you integrate the API key with Siri?

[spark pelican]

Neither GPT 4 nor Bing can tell me how I can access the GPT 4 playground. Someone help fill me in.

[cerulean kite]

Well, many companies already do this "kinda". They accept user input and pipe it directly to the OpenAI APIs and get the result back to the user 1 to 1.

[vital sable]

Playground.openai dot com.

[cerulean kite]

It's the AI startup strategy of the month

[shut onyx]

Doesn’t work

[cerulean kite]

"But they have a nice UI!"

[buoyant canopy]

https://platform.openai.com/playground Same login as for the chat.

[noble abyss]

emmm, I should grab that domain name.

[spark pelican]

If it was that simple, why didn’t either of these technologies tell me that?

I smell lying BS

[wind urchin]

Even though we might not be the same “GPT 4” that you are looking for, if you have access to the new Bing Ai, it is run off of GPT4. We also just announced “Co Pilot” your AI assistant that will be in Word, PowerPoint, and Outlook! 👀

[spark pelican]

And this indeed allows for GPT 4, or 3.5?

[carmine minnow]

hi , anyone mind sharing your chatgpt plus to me?please dm

[buoyant canopy]

You could make a lot of money right now with the right landing page...

[buoyant canopy]

GPT-4 is only available if you got an invite after registering at the waitlist. But GPT-3.5 works.

[wind urchin]

Those who didn’t use GPT 4 yet or maybe a free user, let me know your prompts and I will be helping you happily! 👍🏻

[shut onyx]

I just asked it & ChatGPT-4 just told me the correct link

[astral bison]

Where to use gpt4 guys?

[spark pelican]

That would’ve been useful to know up front…So GPT Plus subscribers don’t get to use GPT 4 in the playground?

[spark pelican]

Nah

[wind urchin]

It’s only available for Paid users.

[noble abyss]

We could always make a lot of money by playing with people's vanity.

[brisk sail]

UghhhO've been waiting forever for my request

[shut onyx]

Uh yuhhh

[static hare]

You are subscribing to ChatGPT plus, the product, not the API

[buoyant canopy]

Not yet at least. No info on how fast we'll get it.

[brisk sail]

me sad

[cerulean kite]

No, the playground is for API access. ChatGPT has nothing to do with it.

[cerulean kite]

The API waitlist took less than 24 hours for me

[static hare]

2 days here

[noble abyss]

HOW

[wind urchin]

Wow

[spark pelican]

So ChatGPT plus does not provide access to GPT 4 in the playground?

And I have to pay, what. .06 dollars per token I ask it — or how many tokens it replies with?

[static hare]

How much will it cost to use GPT-4?
• $0.03 per 1000 tokens for prompt tokens.
• $0.06 for completion tokens for the 8K token engine. The 32K engine is double the price per token.

[wind urchin]

Right

[static hare]

different for prompt vs response

[wind urchin]

Expensive tbh

[spark pelican]

So why would someone pay for plus then lol

[cerulean kite]

0.06$ per 1.000 tokens :)

[static hare]

because the raw API and ChatGPT are different

[noble abyss]

Plus it's for someone who wants quick access to 3.5

[wind urchin]

Yeah. Everyone should understand that.

[buoyant canopy]

Given the interest on the topic right now I'd consider myself exceptionally lucky if I got access within a month or so.

[spark pelican]

Which is better and cheaper if I ask an average of, say, 20 questions a day

Lmao google employee 😂

[noble abyss]

So did you send the email to the address I just gave you

[spark pelican]

I feel like I missed out. I’m paying for plus and not the GPT 4 api lol

[broken arrow]

Hello!!

[cerulean kite]

Bing uses GPT-4.
You just played youself.

[spark pelican]

It caps you

[noble abyss]

Bing's GPT-4 is not as nearly good as chatgpt.

[oak wing]

X2

[oak wing]

X2

[static hare]

you are overreacting lol

[noble abyss]

I tried both. Bing sometimes only generates trivial information from the search results. chatgpt can provide more insight.

[wind urchin]

Now just use the service.

[pale monolith]

Why not

[noble abyss]

Ignore him. he is probably just trolling.

[static hare]

yea probably

[simple imp]

yo guys whens gpt-4 set to come out and how will it be accesible? thanks

[wind urchin]

its already out and its already accessible to plus subs

[static hare]

consider the situation:

• OpenAI/GPT-4 is probably currently the most popular topic on the internet
• OpenAI does not have infinite resources
• there are lots of people trying to use the service

so, are they trying to scam you, or is it a bug? or is there user error involved? (i.e., did you sign into the correct account? is it a credit card authorization vs a finalized charge)

there are lots of factors here

[simple imp]

gochu, how do i sign up and is it worth it

[wind urchin]

Nah man I trust you :))

[cerulean kite]

Nobody here can help you. You're wasting your time here.
Talk to your bank about a refund if you like to.

[cyan swan]

Anyone have some recommendations on the best apps for iPhone to use gpt-4?

[static hare]

safari

[drifting marsh]

POE

[wind urchin]

Anyone tried the sketch to website design yet

[static hare]

image inputs are not available yet

[cerulean kite]

GPT-4 image analysis is not yet public

[clear rose]

Any updates on this?

[wind urchin]

Ohh okay when is it public

[static hare]

eventually

(no timeline)

[noble abyss]

I don't recommend you buy the subscription now, it's heavily limited right now.

[cerulean kite]

Nobody knows

[wind urchin]

Maybe 3-4 years

[marsh saddle]

gpt 4 plus subscription seems lack luster

[wind urchin]

I hope your joking lol

[marsh saddle]

Did they mention if they're going to remove the 50 message limit on gpt4?

[wind urchin]

I don’t know

[wind urchin]

Lol I am joking

😂

[cerulean kite]

They said they will increase the caps over time

[marsh saddle]

dope

[cerulean kite]

Then use them :)

It got so quite suddenly

[static hare]

it's because I had to go to the bathroom and put my clothes in the dryer

everyone was waiting for me to come back

[noble abyss]

Yes my king

[distant oak]

I am in the waiting-list

[onyx ruin]

does the plus subscription offer gpt4 API access? or just through the chat gpt web interface?

[static hare]

no api

[lapis bane]

Wow gpt4 is really good at passing gptzero lol

They’re definitely going to update gptzero soon to combat this

[onyx ruin]

broken in what way

[static hare]

and then the cycle will continue in an infinite arms race

[lapis bane]

Sir, everyone takes money from one another. We don’t print money

False, I bought it then I got gpt4 right away

[cerulean kite]

They gave me access like 5 seconds after the payment. Still using it.

[lapis bane]

This is literally cap, a free account doesn’t have gpt plus

[clear rose]

Maybe contact support?

[cerulean kite]

Try clearing your browser cache

[onyx ruin]

is there any limit to the gpt4 chat gpt? or is it just like the previous chat gpt version

[bronze escarp]

log out log back in lol

[lapis bane]

That’s a you situation, they don’t just do that for everyone. I understand your anger tho

[bronze escarp]

ur fault

[lapis bane]

Contact customer support

If it doesn’t work, then why are you the only one in this situation? Clearly it does work, just not for you

Yeah I can tell you’re impatient asf. There’s no way you’ve waited atleast a week

[deft mirage]

?

[lapis bane]

Gpt 4 just came out. They’re a huge company. Just wait

Yet millions more don’t have that issue. So clearly it isn’t a scam.

And with your attitude, maybe you don’t deserve it at all

[neat ruin]

lmao, begging for accounts

[lapis bane]

Life has a funny way of working like that

[cerulean kite]

Show me one with "literally 1000s of people" and I'll let you use my account

[deft mirage]

Well for me gpt4 is working because i pay the 20 dollars

[deft mirage]

Honestly just the help while coding is worth it for me

[lapis bane]

Then be patient and wait for customer service. You literally haven’t even waited a week. You’re just being a weirdo for no reason

[cerulean kite]

Because there are no such threads.

[simple imp]

fr

[deft mirage]

especially the option to let chat gpt explain codes and errors in detail.. so for me def not a "scam"

[lapis bane]

People who want help from huge companies...?

[simple imp]

customer service should be available every day, with flexible hours

[lapis bane]

Bet, you don’t want your account to work the way it should. Oh well

[simple imp]

openai is plenty big

[lapis bane]

And life should be perfect. But it isn’t. Shoulda coulda woulda

[deft mirage]

Sorry to hear that you have problems... but just wait for customer support to respond and get your stuff refunded

[lapis bane]

Exactly

[deft mirage]

They literally just launched

[lapis bane]

Wait. You’re not some special little snowflake, they have to get to thousands of people

[deft mirage]

You know how long it takes for a bank to refund something right?

this takes up to several month

[lapis bane]

They literally did

[deft mirage]

no way mate hahhaha

[lapis bane]

Such lies

[outer hemlock]

hello world

[lapis bane]

Because you’re not patient enough. You’re an impatient little dude

[deft mirage]

me neither, but banking systems work the same everywhere haha

[cerulean kite]

Have you contacted stripe?

[lapis bane]

This why AI should be out of the hands of children, look how they act

[neat ruin]

public meltdown in progress

[deft mirage]

just calm down a bit. Take a step outside.. go for a walk or whatever

[uncut shadow]

yo how long does it usually take to get through the waitlist?

[lapis bane]

And what’s the reasonable action that you should take here?

Is it whine like a lil wuss on discord? Cry and moan?

[deft mirage]

And again just bc you have problems (maybe bc of your bank or account) does not mean that it is a "scam"

[noble abyss]

Touch some grass too

[lapis bane]

What do you want us to do anyway, we’re just citizen

We aren’t your girlfriend bro, stop crying to us😹

[uncut shadow]

lol

[lapis bane]

You down they UP😹😹

[bleak bough]

So when is the image recognition thing coming for GPT plus subscribers?

[lapis bane]

OpenAI collected a BAG from you😹😹😹😹

[lapis bane]

Only open ai knows

[deft mirage]

dont you have a job or something like that? Like even if it would be scam (which its not) why have so much stress bc of 20 dollars

[neat ruin]

you spend 24 hours on here? are you trying to clawback your allowance?

[lapis bane]

When you’re broke, 20 dollars is a years salary

I would know

[open bay]

Hi
is it 50 or 100 prompts for 4 hours? i just signed up for Plus

[lapis bane]

Used to be 100, now it’s 50, prolly bc of the server load

[brazen prawn]

gpt4 can be an investment if u play ur cards right

[halcyon sky]

50 per hour

[lapis bane]

Faaactss

[fast ore]

When will image recognision be avaialbleible anyone knows?

[deft mirage]

When you're broke you dont buy a service like chat gpt plus for 20 dollars, if you can use Version 3.5 for free

[halcyon sky]

Its amazing for coding, as cyber security me likes to do stupid stuff

[open bay]

oh that's sad
will it increase over time?

[brazen prawn]

it wud be a reasonable prediction

[scarlet perch]

Please do not spread false claims of scams in this server, this is a verbal warning. If you've reached out to support and made a #1070006915414900886 post, there is not much else to do here.

[fast ore]

Can anyone tell me when image recognision is ready for gpt-4?

[deft mirage]

So its not a scam?

[halcyon sky]

Only devs know

[fast ore]

Okay thanks

[deft mirage]

JK

[thick hinge]

Why if I try to purchase chatgpt plus it become declined

[noble abyss]

Now to think about it, 0.03$ for 1000 tokens and each token according to chat is 4 characters, 20$ can generate roughly 2,664,000 characters, which is much worth than buying the current subscription

[dim scroll]

It was 100 yesterday, just saw it had changed to 50 per hour today for some reason

[fast ore]

Will gpt-4 have access to external links or is it just a rumor?

[ocean stag]

i think this server needs like 100 more channels, everyone just talks about random stuff lol

[noble abyss]

I should join the wait list sooner, I deeply regret it.

[halcyon sky]

Its not like chatgpt now has 100m+ users daily... the load limit needs a chill

[scarlet perch]

Let's keep this channel on GPT-4 please. Spaces for other topics can be found in the channels list.

[deft mirage]

Just out of interest: What are you all doing with GPT4? Why would need more 100 requests per 4 hours

[fast ore]

Will gpt-4 have access to external links or is it just a rumor?

[halcyon sky]

I am a cybersecurity student, who uses linux coding constantly and gpt4 helps alot for thousands of lines

[scarlet perch]

The message limit is variable dependent on server capacity. It may change.