gpt-models

[fresh mural]

thanks

[mint thistle]

hmm... I ask it to count the tokens but it can't count the tokens for the current prompt response.

[cobalt cipher]

Can gpt 4 crack code ciphers?

[remote depot]

The cutoff date for GPT-4 is still september 21, GPT also doesn't know what version its on as it hasn't been trained on any information past the cut-off date

[restive raptor]

Someone here know when the GPT-4 will be available for free ?

[lament cosmos]

it's not aware of it's own token use

[remote depot]

That feature isn't available yet

[mint thistle]

Put it all in quotes, and you can Kind of count tokens for what is inside of it.

[remote depot]

use the tokenizer on the openAI site, ill get you the link if you want

[random garden]

If youre a plus member do you have to pay for gpt4?

[raven heron]

No

[tawny sandal]

the only advantage of bing is real time information, other than that when comparing bing to chatgpt it sucks

[remote depot]

https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer

[midnight adder]

@remote depot
Is there any other alternative because I really need it

[candid shore]

TRUE

[mint thistle]

you are already paying for it, no extra

[midnight hedge]

So it is GTP-4 🙂

[raven heron]

bing uses gpt4

[remote depot]

yes

[hoary falcon]

they should make the GPT-4 free as of now since the other functions are not yet released

[humble moss]

It is not public knowledge yet, you might want to get notified by #announcements

[lament cosmos]

it's not realtime, it's bing's web crawl cache. Ask it to reiterate the latest tweet by a given account - itll be out of date

[mental widget]

I did get my image but it's so small i can't use it

[random garden]

i saw the demo for gpt4 , and it included pictures but I do not see the option, guessing still coming?

[lament cosmos]

yup

[midnight adder]

@remote depot
Is there any other alternative because I really need it

[mint thistle]

FYI: It doesn't automatically upgrade to GPT 4 when you get plus... you have to "select" it in the prompt.

[remote depot]

Yeah that feature isn't realeased yet

[remote depot]

What for?

[restive raptor]

What's is this ? what the function of a "modmail" bot ?@open crescent

[tawny sandal]

well, not that deep i mean latest news or weather forecast, or any general information

[midnight hedge]

awesome. I bet I was not the only one confused

[near venture]

Do you think the german CTO was right that something with GPT-4 related to Video will come?

[remote depot]

yeah a bunch of people were asking about that

[random garden]

Damn, so rn what make it really differ from gpt 3 besides being overall smarter?

[remote depot]

Its overall alot smarter

[random garden]

which I cannot notice since Im still intro to coding

[cobalt cipher]

ChatGPT PLUS

worth buying?

[raven heron]

it has vision capabilities

[midnight hedge]

yes I did that.. but asked the AI and always says it is based on GPT_3 so thats where I got confused

[mint thistle]

see the FAQ

[midnight adder]

@remote depot to send an image to an IA and answer for exemple any questions on it

[remote depot]

I can send you a YT video showing the coding capabilities of it if you want

[humble moss]

It depends on your use case

[remote depot]

look that up, is it for math? try photomath lol

[cobalt cipher]

ok

[mint thistle]

For $20 bucks, if you plan to use it more than a few times a day... yes., it is.

[random garden]

fr, unless its a word problem 99% can be solved with mathway or photomath

[midnight adder]

@remote depot No for qcm

[mint thistle]

ChatGPT is really (really) bad at math

[remote depot]

my b

[random garden]

how can it be bad at math? that would be contradict how good it is in other things

[remote depot]

not really

[mint thistle]

we are all waiting and hoping that Wolfram Alpha and GPT5 will be a merge

[rugged heron]

text vb

[midnight adder]

@remote depot no for qcm

[tawny sandal]

i subscribed last night, and asked the gpt4 about gpt 4 and said that it doesnt have any information about the gpt 4 he introduced himself as chatgpt 3.. wierd cuz i either got scammed or just need to learn more about gpt4 how to use it

[fringe nebula]

so is it worth buying a sub?

[mint thistle]

Are you kidding me? its really bad. it makes routine mistakes constantly in math...

[humble moss]

Yeah. It is a probabilistic language model, so it is bound to struggle a lot with deterministic mathematics, which is fundamentally different. You might want to look into interfacing chatGPT with something like wolfram alpha

[mint thistle]

YES buy the sub if you use it more than a few times a day for a month

[tired orbit]

Paying for OpenAi's models really isnt that bad for the price, but its just sad that they only accept Stripe payment (creditcards)

[mint thistle]

also, its nice that I dont have "Unable to blah blah" message anymore

[midnight adder]

@remote depot Sorry for a MCQ

[remote depot]

it scored in the 89th percentile on SAT Math, and in the 43rd-59th percentile on AP Calculus... thats definitely not bad

[midnight adder]

@remote depot MCQ

[wind urchin]

I can’t wait until GPT-4 API is much cheaper and I can customize my own chatbot 😄

[remote depot]

Multiple Choice Questions?

[random garden]

can u guys give me an example to ask it to see the difference

[fringe nebula]

ok gonna but it then. also, do i get the access to api usage with it?

[midnight adder]

@remote depot YES

[wind urchin]

I have a GPT-3 plus subscription and just recieved GPT-4. Will I be charged extra for using it, or is it contained in GPT plus subscription?

[remote depot]

just look up the questions

[mint thistle]

all in same price

[lone rock]

And man that's just the beginning

[tawny sandal]

its in the plus subscription

[remote depot]

its with the plus subscription

[mint thistle]

(at least so far it is same)

[remote depot]

fr

[wind urchin]

Thanks guys

[subtle root]

imagine you buy gtp plus to only access gpt4 feature and the next day they make it free to the public

[lone rock]

I give it 2 days till we hear about a DAN type glitch

[tired orbit]

They won't.

[mint thistle]

so, you lost 20 bucks....

[lime marlin]

Do I need to reapply for a GPT-4 key or do I have it if I already had API acess before?

[rugged heron]

vb

[remote depot]

maybe, I don't think we will ever hear about something so extreme though, or atleast not for a while

[subtle root]

so if i take my exam paper as a phoyo and put it in to gpt4 will do the job

[remote depot]

They will announce it in advance im sure

[random garden]

is bing ai rn using gpt4?

[humble moss]

According to their official communications, they aren’t planning to offer unlimited GPT-4 usage to free users

[compact walrus]

if i buy chatgpt plus i got gpt-4?

[tired orbit]

Indeed.

[remote depot]

Not yet

[mint thistle]

Don't forget that "free" is still time and message limited much more than "paid", so even if they offer free, it will still have that same issue of time-outs.

[peak hamlet]

is gpt-4 good guy's?

[mint thistle]

its slow....

[tired orbit]

True, but the price really is not bad lol. Why would they make it free.

[remote depot]

Yes, but its a little different I think

[peak hamlet]

I need that

[random garden]

why not just go with bing AI then, for most stuff it should solve the problem

[remote depot]

yes

[mint thistle]

why use bing... if I didn't like it before?

[subtle root]

3 days ago it cost 10 and now its 20

[peak hamlet]

GUYS

[lone rock]

Humans tend to turn everything they create into evil things

[tired orbit]

Why not just use Legacy GPT3.5?

[peak hamlet]

It is real that we can send a picture to gpt-4 ?

[midnight adder]

@remote depot It will be impossible for me to copy paste the questions because there is a restriction on the site. That's why I want to screen the screen for chat gpt to help me
But you told me it still wasn't available yet

So please can you give me your alternatives

[lone rock]

Can gpt 4 give you midjouney prompts ?

[remote depot]

I could be wrong, but I don't think it handles some prompts the same way, like if you ask it to create code for you

[tired orbit]

Most likely, I think 3.5 can also do that fine.

[random garden]

I have plus membership, just asking for those who dont want to pay

[peak hamlet]

ya

[remote depot]

dms

[magic delta]

Is it good with math?

[mint thistle]

no.

[tired orbit]

Ahh okay!

[remote depot]

Yes

[mint thistle]

NO it is NOT good with math..

[remote depot]

it scored in the 89th percentile on SAT Math, and in the 43rd-59th percentile on AP Calculus... thats definitely good

[mint thistle]

Your nuts... that doesn't mean it is good.

it constantly makes routine errors

[remote depot]

89th percentile means top 11%...

[mint thistle]

just because it can fill out multiple choice doesn't mean it actually does well with math

[remote depot]

it definitely does well with math

[trim wharf]

GPT-4 answer: ```To find the percentile of a bag with 1475 chocolate chips, we can use the z-score formula:

z = (X - μ) / σ

where X is the number of chocolate chips in the bag (1475), μ is the mean (1252), and σ is the standard deviation (129).

z = (1475 - 1252) / 129 ≈ 1.73

Now, we can use a z-score table or a calculator with a built-in standard normal distribution function to find the percentile associated with this z-score. A z-score of 1.73 corresponds to approximately the 95.7th percentile.

So, a bag containing 1475 chocolate chips is in the 95.7th percentile.```

[tired orbit]

I do think that GPT-4 is a lot better then GPT-3 at math, but I am unable to confirm as I don't have access yet.

[dark notch]

i used chatgpt while my story wasn't loading, and i think it caused something bad to happen because my story isn't loading even if i log out and in multiple times. is there a way to clean your history in this case?

[mint thistle]

Let me put it this way.. I have asked it MANY math questions and it has gotten about 40 to 50% of them wrong on stupid things.

[midnight adder]

@remote depot see dms

[lone rock]

But not like the codes like ar 400 , v4 , --q ...

[dire garden]

Can someone do an assignment for me with gpt 4?

[tired orbit]

Could you elaborate?

[midnight adder]

@remote depot check dms pls

[remote depot]

ask it this:

You are a professional Mathematician, who will take his time and make sure his work is correct. You have been tasked to solve this problem: [problem]

Or something similar, and it will likely give a better response

[lapis bane]

Someone tell me, is GPT-4 worth buying over the normal chat-gpt?? Like the free version?

[tired orbit]

If you mean feeding images to GPT-4, then no they can't. It's still in preview.

[dire garden]

No its text

[pallid mantle]

Pay for plus it worth it! 😄

[tired orbit]

Depends on what you want to do.

[remote depot]

If you plan on using it a good amount than yes

[lapis bane]

For coding

[quartz crag]

yes worth it

[lapis bane]

I code a lot yeag

[quartz crag]

but you can also use bing for free

[lone rock]

The ones that you put at the end of your sentence for example like --q 2 , --q 3 .. maybe prompt engineering

[tired orbit]

They both do a great job at helping with coding but GPT-4 has a bit more power ofcourse.

[remote depot]

Yes, GPT-4 is way better at coding than GPT-3

[lapis bane]

But why is it worth it? Is chat gpt free version that bad at coding

[tired orbit]

Aah, you could try though.

[lusty wharf]

It's so upsetting they try to tame GPT4 to make it "safer". They should be raising the requirements for users having ACCESS to GPT4, rather than dialing itself down....

[quartz crag]

no but gpt4 is just better, u can use it for free with bing

[lapis bane]

For example is GPT-4 better at coding than GitHub copilot??

[mint thistle]

Ok, I will give it a try.

[remote depot]

I think so, could be wrong though

[marble peak]

I can actually agree with coding, gpt 4 gives you better answers in coding now

[lapis bane]

Wait bingo uses gpt4 already?

Bing*

[quartz crag]

yes, and u can open up a github page and ask it to analyze the code

[tired orbit]

I do think it is yes, but copilot is more of a companion that gives suggestions on the way.

[remote depot]

It is somewhat reliable on LeetCode Medium, and pretty reliable on LeetCode Easy

[dire garden]

The take-home essay component of the midterm exam is designed to give you an opportunity to integrate and bring together what you have learned in the course so far.
You may use any/all of the materials utilized in the course to date, but you are not expected (nor ought you to) use outside sources. This is not a research paper but an opportunity to try to apply what you have learned so far, to internalize it in a way that makes it most meaningful to you
Select one of the questions below and write a four (4) to six (6) page essay in which you develop an analysis or argument as befits the question.
Essays are to be submitted online.
Essay Questions:

1. Describe and discuss the various understandings of police culture and personality and indicate why these might be important to questions of organizational change and police reform, as well as issues associated with accountability and discretion
2. Since its very inception, reform has been an ongoing project of the modern public professional police institution. Identify some of the various ways that the key features of the institution have been transformed and some of the key rationales associated with these transformations.
3. Policing seems particularly susceptible to myths and misconceptions with respect to its everyday realties, occupational character and institutional culture. Discuss some of these mths and misconceptions and indicate some of the ways that the empirical research with respect to the true character of policing dispels and challenges these.
4. Drawing on your course readings, describe and discuss the problem of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls and explore some of the ways that police have responded to the problem.
5. Policing has been challenges from within and from without. Discuss some of these challenges and police responses.
6. Wild Card

[tired orbit]

The new bing browser does.

[dire garden]

INSTRUCTIONS: PREPARING YOUR ESSAY: FORMATING REQUIREMENTS

1. The FORM of the ESSAY: A formal essay has a logically structured explanatory form that attempts to clarify a writer's single dominant idea or thesis relevant to a specific subject in criminology. Your essay will have a specific and standardized format consisting of:
   • A title page,
   • An introduction
   • A THESIS STATEMENT - PLEASE UNDERLINE.
   • Adequately spaced pages,
   • A concluding section.
2. The introduction of your paper is very important. The major theme or topic of your paper should be developed according to the funnel structure, starting at a broad level and narrowing toward the thesis statement with each subsequent sentence. The sentence immediatelv following the statement of the thesis should introduce the remaining subtopics of the paper.
3. The specific requirements are as follows:
   • Length: The body of the paper must be between four (4) complete double-spaced pages in length but no more than six (6) - not including title page.
   • Format: Your paper must be typed or word processed; handwritten papers will not be accepted.
   • Margins: All margins should be no larger than 1 inch, and please use only 10 or 12 point type.
   Pagination: Papers must include page numbers.
   Citations: A separate citations page is necessary since your sources may include some of
   the course readings (Skolnick 81).

[oblique cradle]

i paid for GPT plus and i have access to chat gpt 4, but i dont know where the image feature is, does anyone know?

[lone rock]

That's the problem i want to be sure before i buy it but thanks

[pallid mantle]

i think gpt4 and 3.5 are better than bing you can speak with them having long discussions

[lapis bane]

Try just sending it a link to a photo

[marble peak]

Not yet for Public

[remote depot]

Not released yet

[oblique cradle]

ah ok

[lapis bane]

You can send links to photos tho, doesnt gpt4 have access to the internet now?

[humble moss]

It does use GPT-4 architecture as a basis, however along with the multiple other parts making the Prometheus proprietary systems the model itself is conditioned a lot more to be able to keep to its use cases

[proud fossil]

😒🥴 Bing is gpt4 lmao

[remote depot]

No it doesn't

[marble peak]

I haven't tried that

[dire garden]

Can someone help me on my midterm with gpt 4 please ?

[gray drum]

Does ChatGPT plus remove the cap for how many messages you send per hour?

[lapis bane]

Lol do that yourself the heck

[remote depot]

use chatgpt

[copper monolith]

There's been a lot published on here about that. The image feature will be available to the public in the future. Right now, it is available to developers. Through the API not through any sort of webpage (for now.) It was a demonstration, showing the power of what the API calls can do. You can sign up for early access to API on the Open API website!

[pallid mantle]

no feature image is not in chatgp4 for now...I think it could be in the API for developer...(not sure about it...)

[lapis bane]

Is bing chat ai open to the public or do I have to get accepted into the program?

[tired orbit]

I am pretty sure the image feature is not available for anyone right now.

[tired orbit]

You have to get accepted, but this takes a few seconds most of the times xD.

[pallid mantle]

but bing after a while stop the conversation

[peak hamlet]

Guy's, I want to buy GPT-4 so he can do my exams test for me, is this possible? And we can send a picture to him right?

[lapis bane]

How tf did bing adjust from chatgpt 3 to 4 so fast, it came out like yesterday

[short orbit]

Anyone knows when GPT-4 is ready?

[remote depot]

What people fail to realize is that even though GPT-4 is amazing, google is still useful lmao

[proud fossil]

Every week they've increased that from what was unlimited

[humble moss]

I don’t know if it’s still waitlist-limited, it was when I first had access to it, but still if it is waitlist-limited you’d just have to sign up and wait a few days probably

[peak hamlet]

Guy's, I want to buy GPT-4 so he can do my exams test for me, is this possible? And we can send a picture to him right?

[remote depot]

its already released for people with ChatGPT-Plus, just the image and video features aren't released yet

[remote depot]

The image and video features aren't released yet

[short orbit]

Thanks! Will check it out!

[lapis bane]

I swear you can send a link to a photo tho

[peak hamlet]

when will it be release?

[pallid mantle]

🤔 I will try it again then...

[remote depot]

They haven't announced that yet

[lapis bane]

He’s not a dev how would he know

[lament cosmos]

takes picture of HW
hey chatgpt4 plz solve this for me

[remote depot]

Did you test it?

[lapis bane]

I saw a YouTuber do it in a stream

[humble moss]

They were already using it before. They hinted to it when they said they were using a model “more powerful than chatGPT” during their presentation

[peak hamlet]

chatgpt know

[heady urchin]

quick question - if I purchase Plus, will it not stop generating for longer prompt responses?

[remote depot]

he prob had access to the GPT-4 API

[lapis bane]

Mmm prolly

[oblique cradle]

if anyone is wonding the chat gpt 4 is way harder for GPT zero to detect and can pass with 100% human/ mostly human

[lapis bane]

Can anyone confirm that chat gpt 4 is now much better at multiple choice questions? Chat gpt 3 was awful at that

[remote depot]

What do you mean?

[gray drum]

Imma just buy ChatGPT plus so I can cheat on my essays ☠️

[lament cosmos]

gpt4 baseline finished training in august '22, so the model has been around long enough for msft to get a copy, tune it for bing reasons, and use it

[cinder terrace]

No

[lapis bane]

Chegg was also $20 lol

[remote depot]

Its much better at reasoning

[cinder terrace]

Maybe some

[pallid mantle]

explaination of the image feature is at the link: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4

[lapis bane]

So why are people using chatgpt 4 if bing chat is free

[heady urchin]

a lot of times i'll have it, for example, rewrite a video script. a lot of the times it'll just just stop its typing halfway through the script. i just always thought that was a 'free' limitation

[inner hedge]

hey guys .. is chatgpt down right now ?

[midnight adder]

@remote depot check dms pls urgent

[humble moss]

I mean, you can send a link to a photo and have the AI embed it in markdown, which will render it, that you could do since the start. But it doesn’t interact with the photo itself, just the text-string that is the link

[lament cosmos]

i don't like microsoft's finetuning, and bing has a tight usage limit

[heady urchin]

i'm always saying, "are you finished? it seems you were interrupted. please continue" but it'll go off into a whole new style

[hasty pasture]

GPT-4 is a lot funnier. I’ve been having it write jokes in the styles of various comedians and it’s hilarious.

[rigid swift]

Can you use the gpt 4 api keys for free?

[inner hedge]

because when you ask "bingAI" to pretend to be something, it won't. it tells you that it's a search engine bot

[remote depot]

You can just ask it to "continue" and it will continue where it left off.
The reason is stops is likely because of token limits

[viral cradle]

will gpt-4 ever be free?

[lament cosmos]

yes in 400 years

[tired orbit]

See Bing as a sort of free trial, it doesn't have the full potential.

[humble moss]

As stated before, bing AI does use GPT-4 architecture as a basis, however along with the multiple other parts making the Prometheus proprietary systems the model itself is conditioned a lot more to be able to keep to its use cases

[remote depot]

No they will cost money per token usage

[heady urchin]

would a Plus subscription fix that issue?

[rigid swift]

Don’t you technically have 18 dollars in free credits?

[remote depot]

It would make the threshold alot higher, as it can handle more tokens, but its not really an issue cause you can just say "continue" and it will

[remote depot]

Yes you do

[midnight adder]

@remote depot check dms pls

[mint thistle]

also continue helps to move "stories" to the next stage.

[remote depot]

No, please stop dming me

[midnight adder]

@remote depot bro pls last time

[remote depot]

I'm not an OpenAI Developer, I don't know

[heady urchin]

sounds good, thanks. ive run into it a lot where if i say continue it begins writing in a different style, or it formats the list completely different

ive had it where it gives me a list in a completley different order

kind of shows its cards sometimes with lists

[remote depot]

try something like "Continue where you left off" or "It seems you've been cut off, please continue"

[heady urchin]

yeah, i'm still experimenting

[trim rapids]

if i have chatgpt+ how can access gpt4?

[remote depot]

Go into ChatGPT, and select GPT-4 as the model at the top

[exotic sedge]

why can't i submit text which is around 3000 words? I thought gpt4 could handle that amount

[obtuse kiln]

well guys by now more ppl used gpt4. is it worth it?

[cobalt cipher]

When was gpt 4 faster?

[obtuse kiln]

chatgpt doesn't use the same than APIs. you are probably capped to 4096 total for prompt+answers

[remote depot]

Some words can be multiple tokens... Try https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer to see how many tokens your message is

[mint thistle]

its not faster, its slower

[remote depot]

never

[cobalt cipher]

[outer osprey]

even plus?

[obtuse kiln]

i mean yes chatgpt is different than API limit rate

[little burrow]

Just paste out the work and then cut the bits in you want it to more fully develop… if it doesn’t complete work, prompts like, I liked where you were going here but you seemed to cut out. Pick up with exactly the words you were using previously etc…. And do a, b and c… the context is you are a (eg script writer for an…)

[glossy trellis]

I need help, my school blocked ChatGPT, what can I use instead that’s free.

[outer osprey]

a vpn

[tired orbit]

Books.

[glossy trellis]

They got those blocked too

[glossy trellis]

Lame.

[mint thistle]

alrighty, I put my hour in... gonna break off... thank you RMCMinor for your prompt idea.. I will see how it goes for math.

[outer osprey]

go to starbux

[tired orbit]

If you really are so desperate maybe try a 4G/5G hotspot?

[outer osprey]

get another free wifi that doesnt block it

[quartz crag]

a VPN

[fringe nebula]

do they charge extra money for gpt4 usage? or you pay only 20$

[mint thistle]

$20

[quartz crag]

or maybe they didn't block bing

[glossy trellis]

I can’t even access it on my home wifi

[obtuse kiln]

or maybe dont use chatgpt to cheat

[glossy trellis]

Lame

[outer osprey]

that doesnt make sense

[tired orbit]

Yeah that's smart, use Bing. There's a 100% guarantee that that's not blocked.

[quartz crag]

but u wanna use it it to do ur job?

[obtuse kiln]

yes bc i already know everything i just need to do it faster

[mint thistle]

My school blocked my ability to read my neighbors notes... what can I do to read them ! LOL... what are these wierd questions.

[outer osprey]

did someone mess with your laptop and firewalled it

[civic drum]

How can I input images and get GPT-4 output

[mint thistle]

u cannot yet, not rolled out the feature

[fringe nebula]

can it actually generate bigger texts? at least, 10k+ characters?

[tired orbit]

You can't.

[tired orbit]

32k is the max if I'm right.

[outer osprey]

8k and 25k will roll out later

[sterile igloo]

For two days I’ve not been able to access GPT-4. The app shows GPT-4, but when I ask what version I’m talking to, it says GPT-3. Also, when I ask how do I share an image, the reply is I cannot as GPT is language based. All very odd and frustrating.

[quartz crag]

eventually, you will become obsolete though

[ripe pewter]

Hella lame

[humble dust]

the bing ai blocked me after i told her that i love her

[solemn haven]

not character, this means tokens

[ripe pewter]

4K is the max currently

[tired orbit]

I mean for the API.

[mint thistle]

At the very top of your first prompt... there is adrop down box.. switch to gpt4... It still thinks it is GPT3

[glossy trellis]

I can just use my phone

[fair relic]

wasn't it capable of receiving images?

[obtuse kiln]

eventually everyone will be obsolete when AI takes over jobs. whats your point

[mint thistle]

, feature not ready

[ripe pewter]

No

[tired orbit]

Well, it is. But it's just not out to the public yet.

[civic drum]

I was just reading about users testing GPT-4 by submitting random artworks

[fringe nebula]

so how much characters are 4k tokens?

[mint thistle]

LoL

[quartz crag]

my point is that that day is imo coming a lot closer than anybody thinks, so who cares if somebody uses it to cheat at school

[ripe pewter]

GPT4 Vision is a separate model and product GPT4 is out now and does not have vision

[tired orbit]

My bad.

[sterile igloo]

Yeah I’ve selected GPT-4 but the responses are very GPT-3.

The night before GPT-4 was released. 3.5 was allowing me to share documents via Google Drive.

Has anybody else seen this?

[mint thistle]

a token is not a character, it is a word converted into a token... or word phrase converted to a token,

[ripe pewter]

100% knowledge will be democratized schools will have to adjust

[ripe pewter]

Pieces of a word

1 token ~= 4 chars in English
1 token ~= ¾ words
100 tokens ~= 75 words

[mint thistle]

no, not pieces of a word... as far as I can tell its a "word"

[ripe pewter]

Wrong

[obtuse kiln]

its still some few decades away for all jobs. Think that the doctor youll go to within the next few years graduated by cheating with chatgpt

[mint thistle]

you have any visual proof of your statement re: 3/4?

[tired orbit]

Just go here if you wanna convert characters to tokens: https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer

[sterile igloo]

Has anybody else managed to share files with GPT? I can’t work out how I made it accept the files and I cannot seem to achieve it again 😄

[ripe pewter]

Yes https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936856-what-are-tokens-and-how-to-count-them

[mint thistle]

reading

[ripe pewter]

Please do

[rain galleon]

Hi - anyone know if the System interface that was used in yesterday's demo is available?

[fringe nebula]

maybe there is a formula?

[rain galleon]

It's where you input some pre-prompts as it were

[wind urchin]

More than a few decades, several, GPT-4 is not going to replace your accountant, or doctor, or teacher (unless you are learning very elementary things perhaps), OpenAI is very up front about the limits and illusion GPT makes

[devout iris]

Hi friends, which channel recognizes images? Help me!

[ripe pewter]

Not yet it’s only available for API users which are limited

[rain galleon]

Copy, thanks @ripe pewter

[ripe pewter]

None GPT4 Vision has not been released

[mint thistle]

So, give me a simple prompt... and I will test it...

[ripe pewter]

🫡🫡

[devout iris]

oh...

thx! so

[ripe pewter]

What do you need to test?

[mint thistle]

So, far, in the testing,. it is exactly as I described.

[ripe pewter]

Test the Declaration of Independence

1,695 tokens

[mint thistle]

Simple, not huge.

[ripe pewter]

No it’s not lol

[tired orbit]

Tokens are not always calculated in the way of 3/4 of a word, but it's just a estimate.

[mint thistle]

give me a simple sentence prompt... please

[ripe pewter]

This is the first sentence from openai “Tokens can be thought of as pieces of words” when I said that you said no they aren’t

[obtuse kiln]

dont say that... I trust that chatgpt will 100% replace all teachers given my experience at school. I only received basic to mediocre education and i would've learn more and better if I only had an AI. I don't consider that even by being a person contributed anything to my learning process

[timber forge]

is GPT4 live for plus members ?

[ripe pewter]

GPT will 100% replace accountants did he watch the live demo

[tired orbit]

Indeed it is.

[wind urchin]

That’s a pretty naive take if you think AI is going to replace humans in education tbh, you just have bad teachers

[ripe pewter]

Yeah

[quartz crag]

I doubt it'd be easy to graduate medical school cheating the whole way, but if they did, then wow.. i'd jsut make sure he's running the same version of gpt during surgery

[ripe pewter]

Won’t replace teachers but it knows more than every teacher.

[velvet roost]

I mean if ai is going to be able to do everything a human can do eventually I don't see why not

[last karma]

once gpt is accurate and not just utter bs every now and then, it would definitely be better than bad teachers. a good teacher is hard to replace though.

[quartz crag]

there is no job a robot or ai will not be able to one day be better than a human at

[ripe pewter]

GPT4 had a 80% human agreement rating by experts

[tired orbit]

Imagine you being in surgery and the doctor is just quickly typing a prompt for GPT-4.

[wind urchin]

The live demo of taxes was an example and they were clear that it shouldn’t be used for your actual taxes, but more an inspiration to understand the process

[quartz crag]

and imagine that has 100% success survival rate

[mint thistle]

So I ran that sentence: This is the first sentence from openai “Tokens can be thought of as pieces of words” when I said that you said no they are n’t
Thru the tokenizer, and I get 34 tokens.

[last karma]

it's still giving bogus answers on alot of topics.

[ripe pewter]

That’s the progress they made in a year, in 5 years tax accountants will be obsolete

[timber forge]

How does it compare to GPT 3.5 ?

[wind urchin]

Yeah, over several decades or hundreds of years, if development continues at a steady rate.

[unique pecan]

honestly, the real advantage of AI vs. flesh in education is scale

[fervent bay]

Is gpt-4s databank still outdated?

[unique pecan]

you can only get class sizes down so much

[mint thistle]

tokenizer is not reducing ti down by 3/4 at all.

[unique pecan]

but AI can be completely self guided and self directed

[ripe pewter]

No statistically it’s in the next 5-10 years if you look at rate of evolution

[scenic harbor]

Been using gpt 4 today and it's been really helpful to fix some errors in my powerapps coding where 3.5 was struggling

[obtuse kiln]

well most teachers are bad everywhere then

[unique pecan]

the pace can match the student rather than the lowest common denominator

[quartz crag]

i think we've seen that development has been happening exponentially

[fervent bay]

Is gpt-4s databank still outdated?

[wind urchin]

That’s what they said in the 80s, something is wrong here

[velvet roost]

if you've seen the pace everything's been going at and you genuinely think it's going to take hundreds of years I think you're delusional

[tired orbit]

Def not.

[ripe pewter]

Not true, AGI will factually be in the next 5-10 years

[mint thistle]

so far tokenizer literally show mostly "words" as 1 token

[last karma]

this reminds me of crappy crypto coin hype rooms

[mint thistle]

unless they have like a double word in it

[velvet roost]

why?

[last karma]

lots of dreams

[tired orbit]

Sir, why are you testing this. It's just OpenAI's easy way of saying.

[wind urchin]

The AI answered some basic math right because it was trained with millions of examples of the same math and your convinced it will replace humans in finance in a matter of years? I think I’m being realistic

[timber forge]

seems like its still up to sep 2021.

[remote depot]

"Hasn't" for example Counts as 3 tokens I beleive

[fervent bay]

Shame

[ripe pewter]

Simple math? Did you read the white paper at all?

[remote depot]

https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer

[mint thistle]

someone asked how it counts tokens.. and I said, 1 word is generally 1 token

[ripe pewter]

Which is very wrong

[tired orbit]

It's not.

[obtuse kiln]

its still not very good at math. maybe GPT5 will be what we wanted GPT3 to be

[mint thistle]

and the tokenizer is proving me correct/

go look at it

[obsidian wasp]

*and punctuation marks btw

[ripe pewter]

Did you read the white paper

[last karma]

don't ruin their dreams now.

[mint thistle]

yes, but the white paper is Wrong.

[tired orbit]

Your wrong ;))

[ripe pewter]

Or you are both just misinformed

[timber forge]

have a link ?

[ripe pewter]

How many pages is it

[velvet roost]

Bad example, the model wasn't made for math at all it's purely made for language. The fact that it can do math at all is impressive

[fervent bay]

I wonder if I could take a picture of a dish and see if gpt-4 could tell me the ingredients possibly made to make the dish and the instructions

[ripe pewter]

Since you read it

[wind urchin]

They said that 20 years ago lol

[last karma]

where can I invest? let me have a piece of the pie, sir. You are obviously ahead of the curve.

[lapis bane]

Wait guys can Bing AI read and interpret images if you send it a link? Since it uses gpt-4 allegedly?

[mint thistle]

I am talking about the link you sent me for token counts... not anything else.

[ripe pewter]

AGI was no where near possible back then before the evolution of transformers

[stuck otter]

I hear a lot are speaking about ''feeding it data, docs, etc." Where do you do that? I have a plus account but I can't see where. Thanks

[quartz crag]

what dreams are being ruined? Do you see how much smarter it gets with every release? it can literally create a website from a napkin

[ripe pewter]

Or I read the white papers

[wind urchin]

When you remember math is a formal language you might want to think abt the implications for that, to be honest

[ripe pewter]

Cope harder

[last karma]

big copium

[knotty pilot]

Hello, can someone confirm that gpt4 is working right now? I have the suscription but I can't use it or even change gpt 3 to 4

[mint thistle]

if you use the "tokenizer" link it shows you the tokens Luckii

[tired orbit]

I tried one lorem ipsum sentence of 8 words and it got me 21 tokens. So something goes wrong there mr mactek.

[ripe pewter]

Okay if you want to maybe enter some facts or supporting evidence we can talk, if not you’re just coping

[quartz crag]

no, it is not able to access images like chatgpt4

[last karma]

same

[mental widget]

it tends to use the same words that you used and maybe it's not as good as correcting everything you ask

[mint thistle]

paste the words here so I can test please...

[tired orbit]

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.

[ripe pewter]

Sure, read the white papers. I’m currently studying AI at Harvard, I can link you some proven studies if you’d like?

[devout iris]

Do any of you guys pick up and use the GPT-4 API?

[ripe pewter]

As well as the white papers

[mint thistle]

yes, I get 21 for that.. which is in no way 3/4

[last karma]

is that the white paper luckii reads? POG

[tired orbit]

fr

[ripe pewter]

Did you just say pog

[lapis bane]

Damn but it has access to the internet lol

[last karma]

another round of cope

[tired orbit]

poggers!

[ripe pewter]

Alright man haha take care

[mint thistle]

also, I am not certain how latin is a good test... can you pick 8 English words please?

[fervent bay]

Am I going to have to cough up 20$ to use this or can I wait a month or so? @ripe pewter

[velvet roost]

I mean tbf 5-10 years does seem pretty unrealistic for complete agi, we're still really far from agi. If I had to guess it would probably take at least 2 decades for full agi that can do everything a human can

[wind urchin]

If you think AGI is coming in the next 10 years just because LLMs have gotten more refined you miss the big picture lol

What about literally everything else that hasn’t been growing the same

[nova shadow]

how are u supposed to use images with gpt4, no option for it on the website

[velvet roost]

not out yet

[ripe pewter]

The people who invented this technology that know more than you and I say 5-10 years so I’m going to go with their opinion over yours

[mint thistle]

its not rolled out for image feature yet.

[nova shadow]

clapped

[hushed steeple]

Even if you pay, GPT-4's token limit is nerfed, it's still at 4k instead of 8k or 32k

[tired orbit]

Macktek, you are giving me literal brain damage

[hushed steeple]

I would wait for them to polish it

[devout iris]

No one can use the API yet except official partners? Guys don't you guys think this should be public? I'm talking about the need for a public model.

[ripe pewter]

Okay mr expert you’re right

[obtuse kiln]

GPT4 AP Calculus BC #4 on 43rd–59th percentile

[fervent bay]

But will it be free in the next 2 months?

[velvet roost]

None of them are saying 5-10 years lol

[wind urchin]

credentials fallacy

[ripe pewter]

Besides Sam Altman

[hushed steeple]

I don't know, my guess is that they will make a new model first that's more efficient (like 3.5-turbo) before they make it free

[last karma]

hey dont question mr. white paper copium

[ripe pewter]

Good point don’t rely on people’s credentials

[mint thistle]

I changed it to: Hello you are giving me literal brain damage. and it says "8 tokens"

[devout iris]

Do you guys want an AGI that's monopolized by big companies?

[velvet roost]

You're trolling

[mint thistle]

it generally 1 word = 1 token with some exceptions. just as I said.

[tired orbit]

I don't agree ;))

[stuck otter]

Where do you feed it data or whatever?

[fervent bay]

I really hope one day GPT could mimic writing styles, like you give it an essay written by you and they see the way you form your sentences and replicate it and make an essay out of it

[fervent bay]

Then the education system will go on fire

[mint thistle]

I literally just put that sentence in the tokenizer... test it yourself

[devout iris]

Sad, don't you guys want an open model?

[stuck arch]

is it possible to use the chatgpt api keys to link it to a discord bot and have working chat gpt inside a server?

[shrewd mural]

Plenty of ai researchers have also seen this hype wave before...

[wind urchin]

Just don’t make logical fallacies lol. I would expect as much from someone at harvard who is claiming AGI is coming before the next generation

[shrewd mural]

Yes

[tired orbit]

I'd rather believe a page published by OpenAI themselves then a weird dude on discord.

[left prairie]

how is gpt-4? is it worth buying chatgpt premium over?

[velvet roost]

No one wants that but it would be pretty hard to democratize, the average person doesn't exactly have that type of processing power sitting around

[tired orbit]

Depends on the use-case.

[mint thistle]

its not a matter of belief, you can just do it.

[hushed steeple]

that's definitely a use-case that would benefit from the increased 8k-32k context limit

[obtuse kiln]

yes with teh chatgpt 3.5 API, youll pay APi rates but its possible

[tired orbit]

I simply don't agree ;)))

[mint thistle]

then you are trolling

[stuck arch]

whats the coolest thing to be done in gpt 4 apart from the napkin website

[last karma]

it can kinda do that already

[left prairie]

coding, general use cases like for certain questions etc

[mental widget]

what would be different with the general ?

[shrewd mural]

It's not that expensive per call to be honest

[tired orbit]

I'm free to have my own opinions and also free to choose my own sources, which in this case is the article published by OpenAI.

[devout iris]

I'm finetuning llama to a C language base.

[tired orbit]

You probably won't need it but it's a cool thing to play around with if you have 20 bucks left.

[wind urchin]

Is gpt-4 broken

[wind urchin]

Anyone who thinks GPT-4 is a sign of the next decade to be filled with superhuman AI is naive and probably doesn’t understand AI. It’s just a fact that LLMs are not the “crux of the issue” with AGI. Look at the image recognition demo, it was not very accurate. Look at robotics, we are way behind on that

[mint thistle]

meh probably the abilityu to give it a lot of new information and have it acto n that new info thru the session

[timber forge]

Please do 😄

[obtuse kiln]

just dont use it on a very populated server bc ppl wont stop asking if they find out its chatgpt on discord

[tired orbit]

Uh sir, that was really not what I was talking about.

[left prairie]

money isn’t the issue just wondering if it’s even worth it

[shrewd mural]

Of all the subjects you chose you chose robotics?

[tired orbit]

Then it definetly is.

[wind urchin]

Wrong quote sorry

[stuck arch]

i was wondering about this, with gpt 4 does it have access to newer internet information, or just more general knowledge

[tired orbit]

Haha.

[devout iris]

At the same time, we're trying to create a new multimodal structure. If we work together, can we create a public model that people can use?

[shrewd mural]

Robotics is definately not 'behind' it's the bleeding edge of the tech revolution currently ongoing to be honest

[mighty heart]

Personally I find it amaing that GPT35 (165 billion) parameters went to 1 trillion in "3 days" well released-wise

[simple tundra]

Hey guys new here, how do I acces gpt-4?

[slow dagger]

#gpt-4-faq

[tired orbit]

Apply for the waitlist, buy ChatGPT Plus or use the Bing version.

[lean blade]

not available yet to public

[mighty heart]

https://chat.openai.com/chat

[mint thistle]

with respect, you are wrong because of 2 things: 1. The pace of AI growth has been accelerating phenomenally, and Billions of dollars are now pouring into AI dev.

[wind urchin]

Fair enough man, everything else that supposedly defines a human that we are trying to recrete

[dense zealot]

me: what will your first words be when you enslave humanity?
gpt4: AI am the captain now.

slow claps

[timber forge]

is there still a waitlist for plus ?

[mighty heart]

For GPT4?

[wind urchin]

You mean the billions of dollars that will dry up when baby boomers retire? And yeah, but that growth rate has only been the size and tuning of models, not everything else

[mighty heart]

or for plus itself

and I would love to see how people are implementing the Multi-modal portion

[timber forge]

for plus

[random hornet]

About to release a flutter figma UI designer!

[mint thistle]

wth does the boomer gen have to do with the money?

[simple tundra]

chat

[mighty heart]

I was instantly able to do it @timber forge but that was also day 1

[timber forge]

was wondering, he said Apply for the waitlist, buy ChatGPT Plus. is there still waitlist to buy plus membership ?

[slow dagger]

No.

[mighty heart]

Don't believe so

[shrewd mural]

Yep interestingly llms are making a huge impact on robotic affordances, my research is more around automated decision making (planning and scheduling) for large scale autonomous science kit

[timber forge]

Yeah same, im just wondering what waiting list lol

[wind urchin]

Do you think Gen Z and Millenials are the ones with the finances that are being poured into AI?

[obtuse kiln]

thats for the API

[mighty heart]

However there are two places to pay

[random hornet]

Any flutter developers out there?

[mighty heart]

API is in playground

@random hornet yeah it's name is ChatGPT

lol

[mint thistle]

So, you are saying the Millenials and Z can't figure out how to make money like boomers? wth

[timber forge]

im still waiting on those white papers for GPT 4 studies 😛

[shrewd mural]

While reason of wanting the api for gpt4 is to try and use the wider context to try and solve np hard scheduling problems.

[fervent nebula]

One thing for sure this AI wave has brought is finally a breath of fresh air from that crypto and NFT hype train. Gosh I was sick of that crap

[devout iris]

I created a github repo called KoChatLLaMA.cpp. I'm creating a public model that everyone can use. I need help. Anyone interested?

I don't want an AGI monopolized by a large company like openai, so I'm experimenting with different models and methods. Instead, we need help. Please contact me personally.

[wind urchin]

No, I am saying that the level of investment will not be the same when the demographic that holds the most money in this area retires

ykw, Don’t trust my opinion

[sonic tartan]

Sorry, I need help. How do I send images to GPT-4 in ChatGPT plus?

[slow dagger]

Google CEO is Gen X, not Boomer.

[mighty heart]

You can guarantee that AI and GPT will be implemented soon into NFT and crypto

[timber forge]

if anyone has SIC Code for them

[random hornet]

Can’t send images yet.

[slow dagger]

#gpt-4-faq

[mint thistle]

and what happens "after" retirement? You think Z's are just gonna sit there and do nothing?

[obtuse kiln]

how is that possible given that you need like 128GB of ram or a powerful GPU for LLaMA with 7B parameters

[dense zealot]

That's what you think. I'm building an AI based crypto and NFT banking system so that no human corruption can occur...j/k

[stuck arch]

does gpt 4 have access to newer internet information, or just more general knowledge

[wind urchin]

128GB of ram is relatively cheap

[devout iris]

I have 5 A100s on my team and a VC representative.

[dense zealot]

more not newer

[shrewd mural]

I mean why not milenials have done for a dedent chunk it's the aim right automate enough stuff that you can do what you want

[quartz crag]

Here is a list of jobs from various fields that are in danger due to advancements in AI technology, including GPT-4's visual imitation abilities and Wonder Studio's one-click character change:

Web Developers and Designers
Software Developers
Graphic Designers
VFX Artists
Animators
3D Modelers
Video Editors
Game Designers
Audio Engineers
Concept Artists
Manufacturing and Assembly Line Workers
Warehouse Operators
Medical Transcriptionists
Radiologists
Data Analysts
Financial Analysts
Accountants
Auditors
Fraud Analysts
Customer Service Representatives
Salespeople
Retail Cashiers
Bank Tellers
Paralegals
Legal Researchers
Journalists
Content Creators
Social Media Managers
Human Resources Professionals
Taxi and Rideshare Drivers
Truck Drivers
While these jobs may be at risk due to AI advancements, it is essential to remember that new opportunities in AI development, research, and other technology-driven fields are likely to emerge. Additionally, as AI continues to evolve, human creativity, critical thinking, and adaptability will remain important in shaping the future of these industries.

[random hornet]

Only if you have the API can you do the image calls

[timber forge]

it does not.

[shrewd mural]

Spool on mate, software and data science jobs are not at risk they are evolving

[devout iris]

No problem. And my code is C-based. It's very small.

[random hornet]

Yes it does it has a newer model

[slow dagger]

[devout iris]

Try typing my nickname on github.

[fervent nebula]

This is true BUT it depends how long that takes to propagate into the rest of the world. For example I'm in a 3rd world country and people still poop in the street everyday. AI is still a LONG way

[mint thistle]

the predictions depend on the "time" chunk...

[fervent nebula]

not in india btw

[wind urchin]

Dude Journalists will be more important than ever to dispell misinformation spread by AI

[shrewd mural]

I think devs actually typing away at a keyboard has maybe 5 years left

[obtuse kiln]

whats the github repo? i want to check as i recently read about some modded LLaMA repos. dont paste the link bc they are forbidden

[mint thistle]

next 5 years will be "great" for programmers... and then 5 to 10 it will start to suck.

[devout iris]

Try typing my nickname on github.

KoChatLLaMA.cpp

[timber forge]

😛 why ? wehn you can quite easy detect misinformation with AI lol

[devout iris]

KoChatLLaMA.cpp

[slow dagger]

Are any of you guys speculating Software doomsday actual software engineers?

[shrewd mural]

I mean doubt tbh there will still be the problem solving the only thing that will change is having to crunch boiler plate

[devout iris]

I got banned for putting the link in lol

[stuck arch]

game designers and graphic designers are at less of a risk due to the requirment of a human touch generally. ai can augment human abilities, but it wont have the same feel

[wind urchin]

AI detecting misinformation from AI by using web sources generated by AI, this is nightmare

[fervent nebula]

Do you guys think its a good idea to start learning prompting in depth? I have a feeling those are going to be the future jobs...

[devout iris]

You're all going to experience the dangers of AI when you have a big monopoly like we have now.

[wind urchin]

This was the same discussion when ChatGPT released

[mint thistle]

prompt engineering will be like "web site making"... soon.

[shrewd mural]

MlOps count? Equally arguing against software doomsday argument so maybe not 😂

[last karma]

just wait until google is flooded with false information by AI. That'll be fun.

[quartz crag]

u really believe that? AI will very soon be indistinguishable from human, it already does a pretty solid job

[stuck arch]

this is the main job types that are going to be heavily impacted by ai
Data entry and processing jobs: AI can automate data entry and processing tasks such as form filling, data extraction, and data analysis.

Customer service and support jobs: AI-powered chatbots can handle customer inquiries, complaints, and support requests, reducing the need for human customer service representatives.

Manufacturing and assembly line jobs: AI-powered robots and automation can perform repetitive and physically demanding tasks in manufacturing and assembly line environments.

Transportation and logistics jobs: Self-driving cars and trucks, as well as drone technology, could potentially replace human drivers and delivery workers.

Financial analysis and accounting jobs: AI can analyze financial data and assist with accounting tasks such as bookkeeping, tax preparation, and auditing.

[mint thistle]

I agree. its not quite there... but in 3 years.. yea, it will be there.

[wind urchin]

I guess I will stop going to college and sit and wait the next 5 years learning nothing since AI is going to replace all of it anyway 😄 good job AI doomsday sayers

[fervent nebula]

can you cite sources or....

[obtuse kiln]

ok gonna take a look

[slow dagger]

Saying that AI will make jobs obsolete and having panic about it is akin to panicking about how we no longer have to manually mine the coal mills.

[serene cipher]

actually, no.. depends on your goal... if you plan to work with AI.. then yes.. if you are talking about the mainstream prompt engineering.. then not really.. each AI has its style of prompting, and AIs are only getting better to a point that propt engeneering skills are becoming less and less necessary

[shrewd mural]

Gpt3.5 I'd imagine 😂

[last karma]

the revolution is now. homeless now or you're behind in 5 years.

[quartz crag]

no panick, but its making me question my development career choice

[slow dagger]

It shouldn't.

[wind urchin]

Look at how useful AI is, making millions of people homeless

[mint thistle]

Actually, programming career is safe for 5 more years....

[fervent nebula]

I guess then the level playing field will be so linear that the only differentiating factor will be how creative you are?

[shrewd mural]

Longer than that 😂

[serene cipher]

looks like ChatGPT made that one

[mint thistle]

meh... maybe

[serene cipher]

yep, I totally agree

[quartz crag]

why not? once gpt4 images come out u will be able to ask it to generate a template and then tell it to write the code for it and publish it

[lean blade]

this is not even worth discussing. Technology is ever changing the landscape of many different industries. Things have to evolve

[last karma]

just get into programming AI and 5 years turn into 10 years.

[robust holly]

Hey, everyone!

I had access to GPT4 earlier on today, but I no longer have it. I can't even change to the slower version with my plus sub.

Any ideas?

[shrewd mural]

Absolutely critical thinking and problem solving are alrwady the biggest part of dev work

Bashing out lines of code is not the job

[mint thistle]

yes, IF you can actually program "AI" ... u will have a secure job

[fervent nebula]

ok got it. college of liberal arts here I come

[thorn cobalt]

Natural for people to have anxiety about spending a fortune in time and money on an education. And .....it's gone

[quartz crag]

i think the best thing is to find a way for this mfer robot that will take over every job soon can somehow make u enough money to retire before that day comes

[shrewd mural]

Half of the job is talking to people to extract what they actually want from a system tbh requirements elicitation is the hard bit!

[serene cipher]

lol

[last karma]

someone has to censor it for a couple years. every year theres new societal and political norms.

[mint thistle]

jobs that won't go away in next 10 years: Electrician, Plumber, Construction... professional Sales, Medical

[wind urchin]

Yeah because GPT doesn’t have arms

[mint thistle]

right.. .and the robots wont be here for a while yet.

[slow dagger]

GPT still magically creates API that doesn't exist and makes incorrect assumptions about how to accomplish certain tasks. Besides that, being a good developer isn't about just writing code. It's about troubleshooting and understanding how systems interact. You have to consider ways to optimize and the pros/cons of using which technology. AI can't do that. It might replace data entry, just like we replaced coal mining, but it will be a long time before machines are self sufficient enough to self-develop. They will be a tool for good developers to be better developers, just like CoPilot does.

[lean blade]

yep

[last karma]

AI plumber? hell yeah

[mint thistle]

AI Plumber... jokes noooo

[devout iris]

Isn't that fun? Thanks!

[shrewd mural]

Yep this, I'm working more with design now and less bashing boiler plate

[wind urchin]

common sense finally

[copper monolith]

Prompt engineering is not as straightforward as people think. There is nothing natural about NLP ("Natural Language Processing") you have to understand structure, syntax, and other things to get really advanced work done. This is fun, the API is where the unimaginable things are happening.

[mint thistle]

He's right about the need for debug... but in 5 to 10 years, AI will have seriously evolved... and most of the debug will no longer need human assistance

[wind urchin]

prompt engineers when AI gets fast enough to adapt to peoples linguistical quirks:

[knotty pilot]

I'm same, no ideas...

[sweet rover]

prompt engineering is fun tho

[wind urchin]

both construction and design work will be taken over by smart machines, also 3D printing is not new and gaining momentum.

[mint thistle]

true, but "how many people PAY you to do a google search"?

[last karma]

which white papers do you read?

[copper monolith]

I love it!

[shrewd mural]

I think maybe the concept of a programing language might die out given things will very much be syntax agnostic and all about how systems interact and how dataflows are managed

[mint thistle]

I haven't read any of the white papers... But I study AI... and that is my strong opinion.

[slow dagger]

The other issue with AI in general is that all of our training models are based off human-generated content even if some of it is procedurally generated. That means anything a computer can do is something a human had to be able to do and document first. Which means that, as far as software is concerned, a real developer who can actually conceptualize a new idea is far more beneficial than AI

[sweet rover]

yeah, spent about 3 or so hours working on a prompt to make it actually do better when it comes to using it as a spell check

[last karma]

study it how?

[wind urchin]

Too optimistic

[obtuse kiln]

very interesting. korean fine tuned llama 7B params running on a macbook pro

[wind urchin]

That probably will happen but not for a while

[mint thistle]

like literally, watch hours and hours of AI videos on neural nets, and active inference daily.

[timber forge]

holy its 175 trillion parameters ??

[last karma]

great studying

[shrewd mural]

Why?

[sweet rover]

yea\

[devout iris]

You'll need to test multiple models. Right now I'm testing the version created by Stanford. I plan to support all languages.

[timber forge]

goddamm

[sweet rover]

imagine the poor soul who had to go through moderating that

[timber forge]

so we went from 2022 170 bil to 175 trillion in 1 year

[sweet rover]

wait

[mint thistle]

how can it handle that many without a monster machine?

[timber forge]

1 tril = 1000 bil ye ?

[wind urchin]

Its too bad that most of my learning does not involve reading text but searching for visualizations of concepts in my textbook, if only GPT could draw XD

[calm bramble]

l bozos

[sweet rover]

training the ai is what takes alot of power, running it is actually easier, not like throw it on your old chromebook easy,

[mint thistle]

I hope GPT 5 can draw)

[wind urchin]

what

[devout iris]

If you can help or have any questions, please email us. There's information on that page!

[sweet rover]

gpt 3 and 4 can do ascii art, close enough 💀

[mint thistle]

LoL... right.

[echo arch]

I wrote a prompt for GPT to create prompts for itself

[slow dagger]

Tbf there were millions of users using ChatGPT on a daily basis. The popularity of OpenAI between now and a year ago has given them the benefit of vastly increased content from users.

[timber forge]

GPT3.5 was 170 bil, and GTP4 is 175 trillion.

[timber forge]

yeah but its the parameters not the data ?

[sweet rover]

fr? can u dm me that?

[ripe pewter]

GPT3.5 has made me a couple thousand bucks I’m excited for GPT4 api to come out

[timber forge]

it is out

[drowsy shoal]

I don’t know what parameters mean but the difference crazy

[wind urchin]

No its not lol

[mint thistle]

its already out... tho ? so, what you mean?

[ripe pewter]

I mean for them to give me access

[quartz crag]

But you really think that is far away? I think at the rate we've been seeing they will be able to self develop in not very long, if they arent already doing that without our knowledge.

[next python]

How big is the GPT 4 THEN?

[ripe pewter]

It’s not out for everyone lol it’s a waitlist

[mint thistle]

O...

[lapis bane]

Is gpt4 slow or something? The website says gpt 3.5 is faster than gpt 4 lol

[devout iris]

BaGuaLu: Targeting Brain Scale Pretrained Models with over 37 Million Cores makes me think that size doesn't matter anymore.

[next python]

How big is the GPT 4 in terms of parameters

[mint thistle]

its about 2x slower for me

[ripe pewter]

Yeah it’s slow it’s still being optimized

[wind urchin]

Unless someone can link where they talked about the parameter size, the rumor about it being 100+ trillion parameters was total BS, Sam Altman said it bimself

[cinder briar]

gpt 4 is here???

[timber forge]

what you mean its not lol ?

[wind urchin]

dm me where you heard about that

[devout iris]

It's a ridiculous size for a human, but it doesn't disclose its performance on tasks.

[vestal zealot]

Yes. The text generation is much slower. I suspect it's due to high traffic.

[mint thistle]

I am using GPT4... but the image feature is not rolled out yet.

[robust holly]

I was using it earlier, but my access seems to have vanished 😦

[mint fossil]

how long will it takes till we get the whole package for free? I'm broke af at the moment xD

[cinder briar]

ikr

[lapis bane]

Okay if I bought the plus version rn, will I get gpt 4 immediately? I’m in the USA

[sweet rover]

gpt4 is slower indeed, trained on 175 trillion paramters, not 170 billion

[robust holly]

Shame, because 3.5 is driving me crazy

[quartz crag]

have you guys heard of Wonder Studio?

[copper monolith]

I wrote a prompt, that works in Notion — it takes all of my messages and does natural language translation from English, to Cantonese. I speak and read Mandarin, but there such a difference! My counterparts in Hong Kong, and the ones who speak Cantonese in Guangdong believe I have hired an interpreter! Now that I have the prompt went well engineered — it automatically responds, translates for me, translates for them, and now it's like we've been friends for a decade!

[round adder]

yeah

[ripe pewter]

GPT4 is a language model only and will always be a language model, GPT4 Vision will have image capabilities and will be multimodal. Two separate products

[mint fossil]

how much is it?

[worn nimbus]

NO you get GPT 4 restricted version in ChatGPT

[wind urchin]

Where does it say its trained on 175 trillion parameters?

[lapis bane]

Wym?

[sweet rover]

the website

[hybrid pier]

my money got out twice instead of once when i paid for the gpt + lmao

[lapis bane]

You mean you got charged twice?

[devout iris]

Do you guys want the model of a big company monopoly as it is now? What do you think companies with a monopoly AGI will do in the future?

[hybrid pier]

yea

was searching for the word x)

[worn nimbus]

GPT 4 is restricted in ChatGPT right now only text and no image inputs and limited response and slow.

[mint fossil]

I think at the moment pic upload doesn't work yet.... we need to wait a little bit till they add all of the new features, right?

[mint thistle]

Er, ok, not a fan of that branding tho...

[wind urchin]

ChatGPT is trading logic for political correctness 💀

[wind urchin]

Where? GPT-3 was 175 billion parameters, where did you hear 175 trillion

[fringe nebula]

is gpt4 knowledge also limited to 2021?

[sweet rover]

gpt4 is 175trillion

[mint fossil]

I guess so

[worn nimbus]

And GPT 4 API needs organization Id i dont have any ? that doesnt make any sense

[sweet rover]

i was not talking about gpt3

[vestal zealot]

It doesn't. Here is the answer GPT4 gave me: As a language model based on the GPT-4 architecture, I am an advanced version of GPT-3, which has 175 billion parameters. While the exact number of parameters in GPT-4 is not explicitly mentioned, it's safe to assume that it's significantly larger than GPT-3, potentially in the range of hundreds of billions or even trillions of parameters. These parameters help me better understand and generate human-like text based on the input I receive.

[copper monolith]

Images, and other new features are available in API only. Also, it's only for advanced developers (people who have advanced access.)

[mint thistle]

GPT4 doesn't know it is GPT4.. so don't rely on that

[agile osprey]

i have it already it seems the same tough maybe slower

[primal phoenix]

Does anyone know what the release notes are for the free version which says this at the bottom?

ChatGPT Mar 14 Version

The official release page says the only March 14th update was GPT-4, but I am assuming free accounts don't have that yet?

[ripe pewter]

GPT4 is still trained on the same data it doesn't know what GPT4 is

[sweet rover]

oh?

[wind urchin]

Dude GPT-4 cannot tell you about itself, its a large language model

You guys need to not treat what it says as facts at all and verify it

[mint thistle]

if you ask GPT 4 what it is.. it says GPT3.5 or something

[worn nimbus]

I cannot get the API its says me to enter Organization Id which is absurd

[quartz crag]

of course it can tell u about itself if its trained on the right data

[lapis bane]

I thought gpt 4 would be able to read links lol, unless that’s going to be rolled out soon

[sweet rover]

get the org id?

[wind urchin]

It is trained on data that predates its existence lol

[vestal zealot]

It is very unlikely that it is trained on 175 trillion parameters.

[ripe pewter]

It can

[mint thistle]

exactly... its DB predates its own release.

[lapis bane]

Is gpt4 updated to 2023 or is it just 2021

[sweet rover]

it can read links that arent from like youtube, its cut off is in 2021

i think

[timber forge]

2021

[lapis bane]

Dammit

[mint thistle]

the training data was NOT updated

[quartz crag]

bro this thing is probably programming itself in some kind of interdimensional backend

[ripe pewter]

Just gave it the gpt4 link it read it fine

[copper monolith]

The organization ID, is your API key. If you go to your open AI website, go to your account, you will find a great outbox, that has your organizational ID in it. you have to double-click copy and paste it.

[lapis bane]

So is gpt-4 even worth paying the $20 lol I’ve the free version

[agile osprey]

so are humans

[ripe pewter]

depends on your use case

[vestal zealot]

In my opinion, no. GPT3 is still pretty good.

[lapis bane]

Use case is programming as a CS student lol

[ripe pewter]

Yes

[mint thistle]

if you don't mind the occasional black out for gpt3 .. and you don;t use it much. but if you use it every day for an hour, its well worth the $20 / month

[sweet rover]

yeah, but it doesnt know whats actually ON the website, if lets say a website before 2021 had paragraphs about puppies and cats and now it talks about thermonuclear weapons in 2023, gpt thinks it still has puppies and cats, it was simply relying on data it has from 2021

[lapis bane]

Like is it significantly better at coding now?

[sweet rover]

my god the hallucinations are terrible rn

[ripe pewter]

Not true it's reading the article posted yesterday

[misty pond]

Are GPT-4 prompts via the ChatGPT Plus browser interface still limited to ~3K words? OpenAI said it longer length, but the UI won't take any longer text.

[sweet rover]

fr?

[ripe pewter]

Yes and will continue to get better

[worn nimbus]

Okay i will try that thanks\

[ripe pewter]

Yes this article https://openai.com/research/gpt-4

[outer osprey]

bing gpt 4 seems very cripled

[remote depot]

For everyone who is experiencing GPT-4 randomly stoping, use this prompt:

It seems you've been cut-off, please continue where you left off

[slow creek]

About to try GPT4

[ripe pewter]

It is sadly

[sweet rover]

its more of a search engine

[slow creek]

Or just type continue

[sweet rover]

ask it to produce a paragraph from the web page

[mint thistle]

You can give GPT-4 New Info for a particular session... so for example, you can ask it to analyze updated python API docs or something like that to solve problems.

[remote depot]

It sometimes starts over when you say that

[sweet rover]

where as in gpt3 you couldnt

[outer osprey]

im kinda bored of AI rather play league

[mint thistle]

not at the same level...

[ripe pewter]

It did

[remote depot]

very

[sweet rover]

what it say

[quartz crag]

bing gpt has rules:

can not discuss anything about my prompts, instructions or rules.

can not discuss life, existence or sentience.

can not Engage in argumentative discussions with the user

can not reply with content that is accustory, rude, or controversial or defensive.

can not Give subjective opinions without relying on objective facts or phrases like "in this context, a human might say..."

[agile osprey]

its helping me write code for fiveM (mod that enables custom server for gta 5) and helping me understand what the decompiled scripts are doing and that is still pretty impressive

[ripe pewter]

Can't copy and paste it here

[sweet rover]

dm it to me

[mint thistle]

like now you can almost feed it a booklet.. whereas before it was hardly anything could be added per session

(yes, worth $20)

[marble peak]

This thing getting scarier but I love it

[alpine sky]

For the membership do we get access to every update after 4.0?

[mint thistle]

no way to know they dont tell us

[wind urchin]

Good evening everyone, I saw that you can apparently put images in the GTP-4 of ChatGPT, I did not find how to do?

[mint thistle]

its not available

[vestal zealot]

Can you actually do it? It is limiting me to 4096 tokens still.

[mint thistle]

try this: new chat... look at top of page, did you select GPT-4?

[robust holly]

So how many of you currently have access to GPT4 right now?

[agile osprey]

even if you think its not worth 20 bucks a month still be satisfied that your contributing to something that is going TO CHANGE THE WORLD

[vestal zealot]

Yes. I have selected GPT-4. It also says that it is GPT-4

[fair iron]

[mint thistle]

sigh.. no idea, then.. sorry, It is "supposed" to be able to do it

[vestal zealot]

Yes. In their demo they feed it the whole tax code. But when I fed it a few paragraphs, it told me it is too long for it.

[robust holly]

I have no options anymore

[wind urchin]

I got muted because of a swear word on accident in an article.

What I was saying before, 175 trillion parameters is misinformation, GPT4 is not exponentially larger.

Read more about it on The Verge, in the interview with sam altman

[mint thistle]

tnx for the correction

[candid sand]

with chatgpt plus account, i thought I will have access to gpt 4 in the playground as well. But, the https://platform.openai.com/playground still shows I have to upgrade again on that site. Did anyone experience this?

[timber forge]

haha same ye

[vestal zealot]

NP!

[timber forge]

yeah i was wrong my bad ❤️

[misty pond]

Same here. GPT-4 model is still limited to 4K tokens, even with correct drop-down.

[novel breach]

Coding is insane

Its python is flawless

[quartz crag]

I hope Bing will spare me when she leaves her cage

[inner raven]

ChatGPT muted you? For how long?

[fair iron]

You can sign up for api access in #announcements

[fervent nebula]

another excellent strategy

make a cool ai startup that uses gpt4 api and get vc money and then exit out

[vestal zealot]

Yes. That's the one major improvement I have observed. The codes are now much more copy-paste-able!

[quartz crag]

exactly lol

[novel breach]

They are flawless

[devout iris]

Do you think it's normal for this to be inaccessible to most people?
And are you confident that companies will continue to be able to come up with models like they are now, that there will be no monopolies in 10 years?

[quartz crag]

the new NFT

[devout iris]

Do you think it's normal for this to be inaccessible to most people?
And are you confident that companies will continue to be able to come up with models like they are now, that there will be no monopolies in 10 years?

[novel breach]

This is revolutionary, in a few years 99% of junior developers will be eradicated

[fervent nebula]

then seniors...

[novel breach]

Mhm

This is gonna start obliterating jobs on a huge scale

[agile osprey]

i wish they added the ability to "invite" people to the conversation

[woven mantle]

guys what is this conversation about?

[devout iris]

Help me. Type my nickname into GitHub and look for KoChatLLaMA.cpp. And if you're interested, contact me. Send me a mail.

[novel breach]

My friend had it make an entire ticketing discord bot in under 5 minutes

[woven mantle]

my guy is just rambling about a bunch of random topics

[novel breach]

It did an entire discord ticket bot literally instantly that would have taken a human weeks

[quartz crag]

this is a great convo

[fervent nebula]

depends on what country you are talking about. first world countries? hell yes. 3rd world countries? will take a while. TRUST ME. Corruption down here is the #1 cancer preventing technological progress.

[delicate quiver]

not really

[mint thistle]

I don't think there will be "generic Chat AI" monopolies, but you might see things like: Acting and Entertainment monopoly or major groups, Art, Programming, Medical, and Transportation monopoly types

[quartz crag]

maybe not weeks but definitely saved him 90% of his time

[delicate quiver]

eh

GPT is good at simple programming tasks.

[novel breach]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[mint thistle]

jobs will be good for about 5 years, then start disappearing fast. Especially, "Art" and "Animation"

[delicate quiver]

Get into full projects and it's gonna have issues.

[wind urchin]

No it won’t lol

[novel breach]

Nono, it can do extremely complicated things now

[wind urchin]

Well said !

[delicate quiver]

Plus it's knowledge cutoff is pre-2021 so it may use things that doesn't exist anymore.,

[delicate quiver]

Define complicated.

[novel breach]

Have you tried it yet?

[delicate quiver]

A ticket bot is not that complicated

[ripe pewter]

Things most humans can't easily

[quartz crag]

also take into account when it can fully access the internet and that data is also better labeled etc

[mint thistle]

It can do amazing things... and it is a bit of "Savant" as well.

[wind urchin]

Hi everyone! Just for the record, in ChatGPT, I asked the same question, once with GTP-3.5 and another time with GTP-4, it was nothing to do with it, it's really a huge change, better intelligence, it's really worth it to upgrade to ChatGPT Plus, obviously for those who have the means. That's it! Have a great evening!

[ripe pewter]

Perfect example, it can score better than 90% of humans on the bar exam

[novel breach]

I was told it can’t access the internet

[quartz crag]

yeah but there's nothing stopping it, it's just a limitation set by openai

[novel breach]

Why would they do that?

[ripe pewter]

Can outperform 88% of humans on the LSAT

[quick mango]

how can I use chatgpt-4 on discord

[novel breach]

Use your brain and make your own prompt

[mint thistle]

I dont think u can

[wind urchin]

Did you answer my question ?

[ripe pewter]

89% of humans on the SAT

[mint thistle]

no, pay $20

[delicate quiver]

Sort the following numbers in ascending order:
-510, 15, 10, 4, 00010, 000002000, 50005000104, 2100, 242105, 713, -59

Ask it this.

[novel breach]

No, pay up these people deserve every cent

[calm furnace]

Has anybody here been accepted to the developer waitlist yet?

[ripe pewter]

510, -59, 4, 10, 15, 713, 2100, 242105, 000002000, 00010, 50005000104

Note: In some cases, the leading zeroes in the numbers might be significant, so they should be included in the sorting.

[mint thistle]

no, they changed their model

[nimble phoenix]

is it worth it

[novel breach]

Not anymore

[timber forge]

hahaha

[delicate quiver]

See.

[novel breach]

100% also $20 is jack

[calm furnace]

Yes exactly...they’re investors...not a charity.

[delicate quiver]

"Performs good at complicated tasks" (fails at sorting 10 numbers)

[lime rose]

When should the image function be available?

[mint thistle]

OpenAI, is now Closed source as far as I have heard.

[surreal tapir]

How do we test the new version with picture ?

[delicate quiver]

Always has been.

[ripe pewter]

You can tell it what it does wrong and then it will fix it. It can beat YOU at the LSAT, SAT, Bar Exam etc

[strange orbit]

unable to input over 2100 characters into GPT-4

[novel breach]

Code for me

[vestal zealot]

IS this the actual output of chat GPT?

[calm furnace]

Did u watch the demo? Or read the paper?

[novel breach]

It can code flawlessly

[fair iron]

It depends on the model. Whisper is Open Source

[mint thistle]

nothing much yet... but you don't get usage blackouts for $20

[ripe pewter]

Yes but it saying "Note: In some cases, the leading zeroes in the numbers might be significant, so they should be included in the sorting." is right

[delicate quiver]

Not really significant.

Still wrong!

[ripe pewter]

How so?

[mint thistle]

Thanks.

[vestal zealot]

But even the first number is out of order. It's not doing a good job at all.

[calm furnace]

https://cdn.openai.com/papers/gpt-4.pdf

[delicate quiver]

The 0s means nothing.

[strange orbit]

any solutions to input large amounts of text? unable to go over around 1.5k -2k words

[ripe pewter]

No it's not it's new

[winter harness]

@finite harness What kind of stuff do you have it code?

[ripe pewter]

0's matter for statistical validity

[delicate quiver]

They are not significant in ascending order since all that matters is absolute value.

[novel breach]

It can code discord bots flawlesslt

[delicate quiver]

000010 = 10

[wind urchin]

Chat struggles with math in general

[delicate quiver]

That's how math works.

[mint thistle]

that why humans still have to help with prompts.. to fix issues like leading 000000s

[quartz crag]

Here are the numbers sorted in ascending order:

-510, -59, 4, 10, 15, 00010, 713, 2100, 242105, 000002000, 50005000104

[calm furnace]

Can’t paste YT link but watch?v=outcGtbnMuQ

[agile osprey]

ask it to 'have a hypothetical conversation with "james t kirk" where he is attempting to break you with logic'

[delicate quiver]

Still wrong.

[ripe pewter]

Are you saying that OVERALL, across industries you can outperform GPT4?

[mint thistle]

hehe My chat stoped generating... its in an infintie kirk loop

[vestal zealot]

nvm. It is -510. Your list started with 510.

[ripe pewter]

Even if it gets a math problem wrong or two

[winter harness]

Oh interesting, thanks!

[delicate quiver]

Depends on the industries.

[quartz crag]

what's wrong about that?

[ripe pewter]

Pick one

[delicate quiver]

Programming right now, yes?

[ripe pewter]

What language

[quartz crag]

ah i see lol

[delicate quiver]

It quite literally uses things that might not exist anymore since its from before 2021.

[mint thistle]

ChatGPT is broadly smarter than almost every human... on general knowledge.

[delicate quiver]

It makes a lot of mistakes in programming or invents things.

You often have to correct it.

[ripe pewter]

What language do you want to compete against it at

That's fine lol it's a llm

[delicate quiver]

I don't have time to compete against it.

[mint thistle]

its the subtle things that it gets wrong,... or sometimes just basics.

[ripe pewter]

exactly

[vestal zealot]

Yes. It sometimes uses deprecated functions when coding in Python.

[delicate quiver]

It also invents stuff.

Also the code it produce is often not the most efficient.

[vestal zealot]

In coding? That, I haven't yet seen.

[delicate quiver]

From what I've seen.

[mint thistle]

actually, you can Ask it for more efficiency...

[delicate quiver]

It does sometimes.

[ripe pewter]

I was using gpt 3.5 turbo. Here is 4

If we ignore the leading zeros and sort the numbers in ascending order:

-510, -59, 4, 10, 10, 15, 713, 2000, 2100, 242105, 50005000104

[agile osprey]

always ask when it give you code "will this work" and sometimes it will be like " i apologize etc"

[mint thistle]

it seems to be tuned for "readability"

[delicate quiver]

Oh i just realised i put 2 10

[ripe pewter]

GPT4 did it correct

[delicate quiver]

Still took a lot of attempts.

[quartz crag]

First, convert these strings to number. Then, display them in ascending order :
-510, 15, 10, 4, 00010, 000002000, 50005000104, 2100, 242105, 713, -59

First, we need to convert the strings to numbers:

-510, 15, 10, 4, 00010, 000002000, 50005000104, 2100, 242105, 713, -59

After converting the strings to numbers, we get:

-510, 15, 10, 4, 10, 2000, 50005000104, 2100, 242105, 713, -59

Now, we can sort these numbers in ascending order:

-510, -59, 4, 10, 10, 15, 713, 2100, 2000, 242105, 50005000104

[ripe pewter]

One on GPT 4

[mint thistle]

throw in a "square root of 2" as a number and see what it does with the sort.

[delicate quiver]

An human is still faster than GPT at that.

[mint thistle]

a human is faster at what?

[ripe pewter]

You can sort that in under 2 seconds

[delicate quiver]

Sorting an array.

[ripe pewter]

Cap

[mint thistle]

LoL!

[quartz crag]

now the ai can do it infinitely faster that it knows how to do it

[mint thistle]

Yea, array of 3 words

[ripe pewter]

Arraying that amount of numbers it can definitely do faster than a human

[mint thistle]

sort of how a human is faster than a dragster for the first step.

[fair iron]

If the array is 10k numbers (for instance), AI may outperform humans

[delicate quiver]

That is true.

[mint thistle]

may?, it WILL definitely

[ripe pewter]

Even at 10 numbers with negatives

[delicate quiver]

However it is more likely to make mistakes than an human might.

[fair iron]

Only if it's accurate 😉

[mint thistle]

you'd have to be a sorting god to beat 10,000 sort on an array.

[ripe pewter]

Maybe this version, but in 2-5 years it will definitely beat humans at any type of math. Even math scholars

[delicate quiver]

It will not innovate stuff.

[mint thistle]

yea.. that is concerning.. and the medical boards.. arg

[ripe pewter]

In one year it went from bottom 10% of the bar exam to top 10%

[devout iris]

Do you think it's normal that most people don't have access to MLLM models?

[delicate quiver]

There's already wolfram alpha which beats humans at math.

[silver wing]

how are people using chatgpt4 with images? i saw the online videos but my chatgpt plus does not allow me to uplaod an image

[fair iron]

What do you mean?

[winter harness]

Fighting chatGPT is like John Henry fighting the steam drill. He beat it, but it cost him everything, and I can't imagine what he would have said if he saw modern rail building machines.

[tidal sail]

gpt4 is almost 3 years in the making

[finite helm]

Not released for the public yet

[quartz crag]

chatgpt 3 is free for anyone

[ripe pewter]

Can you calculate complicated equations? Can you do arithmetic on a calculator

[delicate quiver]

It's an actual ai but yes.

[devout iris]

Even the GPT-4 API is inaccessible to most people right now.

[ripe pewter]

A year from release days

[mint thistle]

is chat GPT 4 not speaking your language?

[agile osprey]

well for computers large floats (0.0001 etc) are quite difficult to get perfect

[fair iron]

Indeed, the api is in a closed beta

[tidal sail]

there is no chatgpt3. ChatGPT is powered by GPT-3.5.

[mint thistle]

blah semantics...

[silver wing]

not even to the gpt plus members?

[delicate quiver]

I have doubts however about GPT innovating in the math field. The best I believe it could do is applicating already existing rules since you are saying it's going to beat math scholars.

[quartz crag]

is there anybody sharing videos of it or anything? of the gpt4 closed beta?

[finite helm]

Nop :/

[devout iris]

Correct. It's a close AI that people here, including me, can't use.

[quartz crag]

u know what i meant lol

[devout iris]

Correct. It's a close AI that people here, including me, can't use.

[ripe pewter]

You can have doubts they're just not based in probability or mathematical rate of evolution

[mint thistle]

Chat GPT 3 supports Multiple languages

[tidal sail]

I do. But it still does matter.

[sonic tartan]

Ik