Buff thoradolosaur

[half yew]

This guy is literally useless now, there's no point at getting him, styra is a requirement for meta dinosaurs, while also being needed for this fake beast, atleast make him if a little bit more worthy

[past mulch]

I mean, Thor is used in a lot, and I mean lot of raids, so is not completely useless, unlike say, Erlikospyx or Mammolania

[light solar]

It’s still much in need of a buff in stats and kit

[wintry pond]

useless btw

[haughty stream]

Why is there non existent creatures there 😭

[wintry pond]

old dinos

they exist but either model or ingredients change

[haughty stream]

?

[haughty stream]

So like the ptor with horns looking thing

[wintry pond]

yea

[vivid chasm]

Fraudulent list

[half yew]

this dino isn't even good, wdym perfect

in raid well kinda good

but overall he's just trash and need many buffs

[wintry pond]

that's raid list

thor tuora and dilora and parasauthops are 4 uniques you can put them in any raid unique and apex and they work

[half yew]

you still just put him and rexy above dinos that are still way better than them in raid

[wintry pond]

because they are that good

[half yew]

they aren't bad at raids, but they aren't top

gryp and the apex rexy are just an upgraded version

the ankylo rex aswell is good, better

[wintry pond]

yea I don't think I need to continue this conversation when someone says rexy isn't top raid dino

[haughty stream]

lol true tho rexy is one of the top raiders in game

Probably a PvP guy that never raids

[obtuse sandal]

I don't agree that Thor is useless. He's still one of my favorite dinos💚 But he definitely deserves, and needs, a buff.

[light solar]

Outside of raids he is 😅

[gray zinc]

Only thing keeping out Thor of the grave is his impact
Except that he's basically useless

[river spire]

I think a swap in charge (like hit 1x and stun) would help him

[weary marsh]

needs a devour at minimum...
and thor is still on my team. i stopped chasing arena and just put my boosted raid dinos on my team - and went straight down to aviary. lol

[hasty flame]

@haughty stream Actually, Thor is the god of thunder and if you ask Loki, he'll say that Thor is, indeed, useless.

[wintry pond]

it's not useless again, y'all need definition of "useless" because thor is 2nd best unique for raids

and no I don't want to hear "WhO cArEs AbOuT rAiDs" because many do them

just say YOU don't care about raids
as for useless dinos that actually have nothing of use like utahsinraptor or Albertospinos or even compsocalus need the buffs more because these ones are the truly useless ones they literally can't be used anywhere

[half yew]

it's because there's an upgraded versions of them

if ur talking about legendary raids alone then yea rexy could be top
but overall nah

[wintry pond]

yea I don't want to hear it at all

[half yew]

there's already better, upgraded version

[half yew]

fine don't, rexy isn't top in raids
when there's upgraded versions of it

[wintry pond]

you are very alone on this take

[half yew]

i rarely see anyone use rexy in unique/apex raids
only in legendary raids
because in unique and apex raids there's better dinos
unique sometimes they use rexy
in apex it's even rarer

[wintry pond]

I also don't see Gryganyth in pvp anymore does that mean it's bad?

I only faced 2 atromolistis last few weeks does that mean it's bad too?

"rarer" doesn't mean there's better

and I will tell you this go anywhere and ask rexy will always be answer

in fact combo that works in literally any raid is 2 rexy 2 dilo nothing else can do this you can replace one rexy but that's just shows how good these to compliment each other

[half yew]

what about [upgraded versions]
what make rexy good for raids
lemme guess
A3 and A1 which are the roar and the first attack
the fourth attack to deal more damage to the boss with some good healing

well there's many dinos here with these type of abilities and even more

that's why rexy isn't top anymore, is it top in legendary raids? yea ofc

is it top in unique raids? close
is it top in apex raids? never

[haughty stream]

Why the heck did I get pinged for this

[light solar]

He could get a shattering version

[past mulch]

Like?

[wintry pond]

he thinks skoonamet is

it's funny I asked and people said rexy

[half yew]

they said it's good for raid
but it wasn't top
#general-chat message this is who you asked
extra
#general-chat message

[half yew]

some dinos who has like what rexy have and more, some of them even has counters that buff the team

i will check

[wintry pond]

only better options I will even consider is ONLY dilora lol concatosarus which has counter team buff just doesn't work where there's fierce boss especially impera raids rexy works in all raids

[half yew]

Concatosaurus too op for a unique
Ampelorex
ofc Gryganyth
Tyrannodactylus
i feel like Ceranosaurus is good but im not sure, he has good abilities, debuffs while being already strong with op counter attack

there's are examples
well even thought i took a while to check them

Skoonametrodon also sounds good, buffs the team while debuffing the enemy, can be good against both cunning and other types, but could be hard and there's better options

[worthy basin]

What the hell is this?

[wintry pond]

ptor

[worthy basin]

Why the horns tho?

[wintry pond]

originally it was megalotops before they changed it

[worthy basin]

Oh

Didnt know

[past mulch]

Pantherator before they changed the other component (it was Megalotops instead of Thylacotator)

[past mulch]

Not really for raids (which is very different from brawl or average PvP)

Concatosaurus is good, because can put shields and buff a little bit the attack, but on fierce bosses, it doesn't help a lot because its heal isn't good enough, and gets outclassed in the healing department by Ptops, Dilorach and Tuora

Ampelorex: Just a worse Tmet for raids. Since there's not a lot of evasion minions (if there are even), Tmet's impact is ussually better than Amprex's impact

Gryganyth: Actually good, thanks to skewer, meaning that if it does not kill the minions, at least will stun it most of the time. But MF doesn't boost team so is just a good attacker (similar to Thor or Tmet). Only thing holding it back is that it can only be used in apex and omega raids

Tyrannodactylus could be a really good shielder in another timeline, but you will never use it on a raid if you have Oloro, because it can do the same and more (shield, evasion, attack boost, healing,...)

I can't talk about Cerano because I don't have it and didn't see it used in raids

And none of them can't do what Rexy can (that being being a good attacker and buffer), and since those are good traits that almost no other creature has for raids, it makes her one of the best raid creatures

Smet could have been good as well, if it wasn't for the fact that its "buff" means that it can't work like Rexy unless a healer does a turn 1 no priority healing, as otherwise, Smet will probably do battle ready again in order to not die

[half yew]

true conc heal isn't enough
conc isn't a main heal source, but it's another dino that going help in dealing damage while also still giving both shield and extra heal in the same time, and it counters also buffs ur whole team

[half yew]

rexy is good but for unique and apex raids?
ok maybe in unique she's good but in apex? there's so much better

but ok i will admit something

i don't have any of these dinos at all, but i saw their pvp and read their op abilities

[past mulch]

With proper level yes (as in, you can't just put al level 20 and expect to work, but a lvl 25 could with enough HP boosts)

[past mulch]

And that's the thing good in PvP isn't always good in raids.
For example, Parasauthops sucks in PvP but is just one of the best for raids because the amount of good healers for raids are very few.

For the opposite, Atromolistis is just OP in PvP, but because the self-sacrifice attack, and its healing not helping the team, you don't want to see it in raids

[half yew]

yea ik

[wintry pond]

so you just judging by moveset that's all
all list of dinos you mentioned are literally worse than rexy concato being better one but not better than rexy
and for apex I can show you all bosses have/had rexy in their strategy sheets fact that even level 20 rexy works in raids shows how busted she is, you don't need to only think about abilities but how easily accessible the dino is, skoonamet can buff team and all but relies on healer to actually function well because it sacrifices while rexy has many apex strategies that doesn't even include healing at all, plus it's way easier to get rexy over many dinos which is why she's literally one of the top, cheap and can literally take ANY raid

as an example impera the toughest apex and hey look a rexy

oh look also the "useless" thor 🙏🏻

[fleet jackal]

Rexy is very goood for raids

No question abt it lmao

[past mulch]

Welp, that strat might not work anymore, ironically because Indolycan got buffed

[wintry pond]

which is why I said have/had

I'm aware all lycan strats don't work since I publish them

[gray zinc]

Yeah nah Thor is useless
The only ones using Thor are the ones loving it or the ones already having it at a high lvl
Do you see anyone wanting to unlock Thor ?
Most people do it for the collection and never use it after
Rexy is already better than Thor for raids
It's not "useless" in the way it has no use, because it has in raids
It's useless in the way that no one wanna upgrade it or even use it since Rexy Tmet and other great dinos replace it
Don't get me wrong, I love Thor, but saying Thor isn't useless isn't right, because no one tends to even upgrade it anymore

[half yew]

🔼

[harsh tundra]

I'd argue that claiming Thor is great in raids and leaving it as is would be a bit stupid, since as power creep gets stronger, there will be creatures that do its job better. If you want to say it's good for raids and PVP, give it adjustments to the already existing moves so it can do both.

[wintry pond]

last time they changed something about about raid dino most speedy strats died

I see you lycan

[silent arrow]

Thors whole appeal now is how good he is in raids. When he’s outclassed by rexy, a Dino so common in events and incubators. Theirs no point in unlocking and upgrading Thor. Yeah he’s inherently useless, only cause theirs more worthy alternatives. But atleast theirs a place in the game for him. You can’t really say the same for 75% of the unique roster, even some apexes. The communities love for Thor would want a buff, but theirs so many other creatures that have faded into dust, and could do with it more. No one is really going to invest into a Dino that’s one purpose is overshadowed by more worthwhile alternatives. He could do with a buff but atleast he’s in a better state than most uniques in the game. Not an amazing state, nor great state but in such an over saturated game he’s served his purpose. He couldn’t be further from the meta, but you chuck a decently leveled Thor into an autofill apex raid and no one’s complaining, you can’t say the same for most Dino’s. Look at the tier list you posted above.

[gray zinc]

Thor was already a great dino for raid back then, that's the reason why you see good lvl Thor, it's because OG players used it, new ones aren't making Thor, why ?
Thor is replacable by Rexy, as you said
And Thor requires Sino, which is already required for an Apex, so no one is going to waste that precious DNA
Only reason you see Thor is seniority, except from that, like almost all of the unique Roster, you're not going to see Thor

[silent arrow]

We both wanna buff Thor, I see no problem. I just think that his situation could be worse. You see a Thor not often but still, when have you seen a Utarinex, or a Tryko above 25. It’s less of a problem of buff Thor and more that the power creep in this game is so ungodly bad that eventually every Dino is gonna be useless. It’s surprising that he’s used at ALL even today.

Tell me though how would you buff Thor, to become more worthwhile in the current meta.

[weary marsh]

it def needs a devour... needs other changes, but that's the one that comes most readily to mind

[silent arrow]

Legit any form of survivability would be a plus, atp it just impacts, instant charges and dies

Or smth that takes the speed boost and heal ability from Allosin

[light solar]

Right now it’s legendary is better then it 🤣

[gray zinc]

Okay just to point out that Tryko is infact one of the better uniques tho, since its buff it has gotten put it among the best by totally walling anything without shield breaking and even like that it has a great counter and an OP on escape

[wintry pond]

ok tryko success buff what about 4 Albertospinos buff and 1 indirect buff it had and still most garbage to ever exist in unique category

and dilora was only ever powerful because didn't have anything with shield and armor that's even anything good and as soon as we got something decent dilo dropped out FAST

[silent arrow]

I can’t tell if you’re trying to say dilora isn’t good. Sure it’s ass in pvp, but it’s one of the best raid healers in the whole game. Unlike Thor though, people still fuse for it and actually use it half cause it’s that good but also for its apex. Thor has no appeal now, increasing its survivability or helping it deal with its counters would atract some people to fuse for it.

[wintry pond]

I'm aware about dilo I'm raider and people know me about it, my point is that thor whether gets appeal or not has a use outclassed or not he's still able to be used in all raids he's available in, what I'm saying is just buff actual useless dinos like Albertospinos or compsocalus or stygi

and again I just hate when something is used in raids gets any changes that legit kills something so that's personal thing to leave thor alone, they buffed lycan to be pvp monster but all of short strats that had him died

[silent arrow]

Theirs ways to buff Thor without ruining him in raids, a devour heal would help with both parts of the game. Simply put Lycan had such a huge change that ofc it’d fall out of tune with some raid strats. Though no one’s asking for Thor to become the pvp monster he once was.

You’d think a super hybrid with sino dna would have some survivability. It’s legit a trex with an instant charge and a glorified impact.

[wintry pond]

fierce devouring rampage would be cool ig keeping it with impact rampage spam as it is perhaps the charge can completely get modified to something better but I just don't want a frickin lycan level of change

[silent arrow]

No one wants a lycan level of change. It’d ruin it completely in raids. Then he’d be PROPERLY useless. His instant charge needs a buff or scrapped. Why does Indoraptor have a devour but not him.