##DILOZORION MUST BE BUFFED

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ornate gorge
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This apex hybrid is one that players have been waiting especially longer. With a nice design and a nice skill motion, we can't blame him for the looks. But his skill move is truly awful. GROUP WILY STRIKE doesn't have the cunning element. It need distraction&crit down. But the most horrible things ALERT BLIGHTED IMPACT AND RUN&VENGEFUL DEFENSIVE STANCE.

ALERT BLIGHTED IMPACT AND RUN:
It didn't pick up any of the three - kill decisiveness, Utility, and healing. High attacks can't definitely cut off the opponent's breath, provide fluidity with the right Util option, and can't pick up elasticity through healing. All there is is is a reduction healing, but this can't generate good synergy in these types of skills. The healing reduction effect is not the effect that goes with this creature in the first place.

VENGEFUL DEFENSIVE STANCE:

None revenge-It has some recovery, but it's far short of the material dilo. There's a cool time and a delay of 2 turns. Considering that dilo's recovery technology is non-delayable, this is not evolution, it's actually degenerate.

revenge status: Invincible + 2x damage priority, but nothing else. It's over. If it's "vengeance status," I had to design my skills in such a way that I would rather focus on killing my opponent, then invalidate or through defense or increase the damage to 2.5x when I'm plural.

Overall, this apex hybrid right now is so weak that it's way beyond our expectations. I'm not saying you have to dominate the meta, but I think you have to at least have the strength to be in the meta. Thanks for designing and launching this awesome peak hybrid, if you make corrections in terms of skills and capabilities, it'll be a success. Have a nice day!

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Dilozirion's matchup

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Look at this poor chickenDilo_Laugh

twilit raven
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Yep

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At least i dont have to regret how i spend the coins from the isla (lvl 30+ enhancement)

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versed lion
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while its not as strong as some other apexes
its got good revenge potential

twilit raven
versed lion
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I think it could be a bit stronger

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but those matchups change a lot when it has the revenge move

twilit raven
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Yh that is true

versed lion
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what bugs me more is it being called group willy strike and not group crafty strike

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those who know...

twilit raven
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But out of the 2 parents (strong alone + strongish alone and good with swap) it's sort of eh

versed lion
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just remember that this could've been double heal long invinc swapper nullifying revenge creature

twilit raven
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Yh

versed lion
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essentially
the most obnoxious creature

twilit raven
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It had huge potential to be super op... welp... it's kinda sad... almost as panthera raptor thingy hybrid

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Just revenge and die soon

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I killed it with apex compy lvl 26 low boost and it stood no chance at all (diloracheirus would do a lot better than it did)

drifting peak
twilit raven
summer lance
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this thing sucks but it has one of my favorite designs of all the new apexes they've released

gloomy thistle
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From using i currently reckon that it's group strike turns to group cautious strike

gloomy thistle
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My idea

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sleek delta
wind kiln
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I literally took it out in one round with my Concatosaurus in the Strike today. It got one attack in the i hit with Counter + Rampage Intervention.

iron panther
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its design is so lazy

alpine thorn
alpine thorn
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Tested on friendlies

sleek delta
signal kernel
paper jacinth
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They also gave Scorpios Rex gen 3 horns because of the Carnotaurus, but nothing more

sleek delta
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so not much hope about redesigns

versed lion
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Suchomimus and SR3 are the only redesigns we've had

alpine thorn
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Jamcity is the opposite of ludia

versed lion
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?

alpine thorn
# versed lion ?

Keeps ruining the game, gives us bad designs, introduced omegas etc... Ludia's mistake imo was boosts

versed lion
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I see

paper jacinth
paper jacinth
alpine thorn
paper jacinth
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Yes, that short period was insane

velvet rain
# sleek delta

I love the suggestion but it makes 0 sense to have revenge definite rampage nothing of the ingredients have any shield breaking fierce move, it's better to have nullification because that makes way more sense

sleek delta
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quetzorion pre “buff” had definite rampage and was a wildcard

alpine thorn
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Then side step changed to a destracting one and rampage to pounce and run BS we have now

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Pre 2.0 she had piercing srike as a basic (not crafty strike). She never had defenite rampage

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And was fierce resilient. Dont speak about things whitout knowing them 1st

velvet rain
dusk venture
velvet rain
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my favorite unique from how useful she was

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also let's just say she had defenite rampage that doesn't justify hybrid having it because quetzrion doesn't have it RN and dilozrion kit perfectly shows combination of both dilo and quetzrion (ik they aren't strong and stuff but by logic and not power you can say they did it correctly)

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iron panther
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They took away Quetzorion’s nullifying rampage just so they could give it to Diloz

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So trashy and disgusting

alpine thorn
velvet rain
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same here

alpine thorn
# iron panther So trashy and disgusting

Yup, I uses her dut to that, now I have her at lvl 29 on team whitout pourpose. She is being outclassed cause she cant remove shields/dodge and has a forced swap

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Its freaking annoying

velvet rain
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the thing is some people when they give ideas about buffing something they add stuff that makes no sense like yea defenite rampage would be cool but nothing from ingredients have that so it doesn't work

alpine thorn
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Tbh give quetzorion the rampage back and screw diloz

velvet rain
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maybe if you want defenite rampage make it creative like "armor piercing nullification" that's perfect one

alpine thorn
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Diloz design could come from me "having fun" learning how to model on blender, design is atrocious the dino is a failed premisse

velvet rain
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because technically quetz has armor piercing from crafty strike

alpine thorn
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It fails at both dealing with flocks/high dmg and healing

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It does no job well and only has a chance to shine if on revenge (if shield cant be bypassed)

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Then some NPCs ask us to be kind to devs

velvet rain
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that shield on revenge I used in tournament and ig my opponent didn't have any for shield it went 3-0 without losing a single hp

alpine thorn
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Yup, same here

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It can kill alanky like that

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I am fed up with whatever these devs are doing, bring back Ludia goddamn it

velvet rain
alpine thorn
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I miss old jwa (boosts were op but game wasnt broken) powercreep didnt run full throttle like it has, people have a kind of "MTF Red Hearings" aproach (either cover up some BS or try to minimize criticism) and then guys like me who like to Hammer Down on it get feaking hated. Ik I can be harsh on my statements but I would love this game to keep runing, I got sad enough at the loss of JPB already and it was 5 years ago.

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I saw this games early days and would love to not see its last days as a sinking ship

alpine thorn
velvet rain
alpine thorn
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They are pulling a kind of snail games ASE bs scheme, what are they going to do after this game dies ? Make a jwa Ascended/reimagined ?

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I've ranted for long enough, Ima go to sleep

velvet rain
iron panther
versed lion
opaque ocean
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It was always going to be a dlop

undone socket
ornate gorge
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Zorion's so weak...

versed lion
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it isn't

undone socket
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I think this is realistically the best buff you can give it before it becomes too much and less of a synergist and more of a no brainer like dilorach

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ornate gorge
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This worst apex

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It weak than unique dilo

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Indoc&glysav stronger than zorion

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Even they local exclusive apex

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Zorion isn't

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You don't have a zorion, do you?

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Could you bring me proof that you are using dilo before adding one more word to my words?

drifting peak
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He's completely garbage. Low stats bad moveset. Tebax's nullifying rampage has no delay even not on revenge and they still gave diloz the normal one. The impact is terrible and the main reason people were excited for this hybrid, that being he's dilo's hybrid wasn't taken into account as he hardly has anything that resembles dilo.

undone socket
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It’s still better than dilorach whether you like it or not

drifting peak
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Purely for PvP sure but he's still one of the worst apexes, and by far the worst recent apex

undone socket
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Eh

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Glyptosavis on release was probably worse

drifting peak
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you're right, he was, but he was buffed and diloz hasn't been, so he is the worst recent apex

undone socket
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Plus I don’t think it’s a particularly bad thing that this apex is slightly worse than the others. It’s easy af to get

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And they’re giving away quetzorion dna in the tournament championship

undone socket
drifting peak
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It just takes time and coins

celest talon
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this chicken is so ass

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Maybe it’s ass because it’s so ez to get cuz of the Isla dna

quartz mesa
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I don’t think they will buff it because like other people said it’s extremely easy to get Dilozorion Due to Dilos ingredients being in the Isla event and the championship this month if it were to get buffed it might be a minor buff

ornate gorge
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Alank is op, but diloz not.

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Seriously, what's the difference between these two?

undone socket
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One of them is meant to bring money while the other is just ok

outer lance
ornate gorge
outer lance
feral sleet
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What I don't get is why does nullifying rampage need a cool down of two? Most other rampage moves only have a cool down of one, and nullifying potential boosts is not something worth waiting two turns for when people usually only need the boosts for a turn after set up

undone socket
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If nullifying rampage gets buffed that means a Gigantspinosaurus buff and that’s the last thing we need rn

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Gigantspino is already oppressive as is

outer lance
twilit raven
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Buffed in every way... the design sucks too

outer lance
twilit raven
rich fractal
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Dilozorion launch was actually a relief. One less Apex to worry about. 😺

meager ether
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Honestly they should probably take away the delay form the defensive stance so That way it can heal when brought out. And give it swap in invincible heal as well. Maybe add distraction to group Willy strike.

undone socket
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This will fix the dilozorion problem

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velvet rain
rich fractal
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Dilozorion is what it is, leave it this way.

signal kernel
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Now this will help dilozorion
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If it’s gonna be a cunning class its gonna need distraction cus the only distraction it has is it’s vengeful stance which is only 50% and nothing else
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I added some heals on blighted only by 50% rally plus buffed the amount vengeful gives you by 150% and gave it deliberate distraction on its revenge

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signal kernel
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too op?

gloomy thistle
# signal kernel too op?

After using dilo for a while I find it needs: no delay cooldown on healing potentially also priority, dodge and dmg reduction addeded to 1st move, dmg reduction added to impact attack

signal kernel