Make Apex’s spawn in wild(remade)

[velvet wraith]

Ok so a lot hate this idea but I forgot to add a few things
First apex spawn chancee will be a lot lower than uniques, secondly these will be the apex’s that aren’t in raids otherwise it would deem the raids useless, some apex’s that are very good like tmet won’t spawn :3
Hope you like this remade suggestion

Hold up I made spelling error

Another thing could be u need a certain level to get them

to get the dna in drone mode thing

[plain scroll]

i don't even think that nonhybrid spawning legendaries and uniques should be a thing, so I'm never going to agree to apex spawns. Those should be endgame creatures that you work towards...

[velvet wraith]

U guys can tell me wut I need to add since I lost my creativity a long time ago

Also the dna u get from each drone shot will be like 1-5

So it doesn’t get rid of grinding

[waxen fiber]

I agree, but with multiple balancing tweaks

1, they are rare, VERY rare, they should feel like you hit the jackpot, with 1 a month limit

2, you should only get about 50 dna from them, so probably 5 dna directly hit, 3 anywhere else, this means it's a boost, but not gonna magically give a apex

3, raid apexes can spawn, and are more common than hybrids, but still crazy rare, to the point that grinders get one or two apexes a month ish on average

There should not be any unique exclusive to wild

Hybrid legendarys and uniques can also spawn but more common

[inland hornet]

hell naw

[delicate osprey]

Tell me you are begging for free apexes without telling me you're begging for free apexes

The entire idea is dumb in it of itself, the hardest creatures to get, in the wild? You're very funny

Peeps get a free Gryg and now have the nerve to ask for more

[waxen fiber]

That much i disagree with, the idea can be fun if balanced correctly (such as rarity and you dont get alot of dna)

[delicate osprey]

Even with balancing tweaks, why would apexes even need to be in the wild, just do the raids

Or or depend on Jamdia to feel generous and give out another meta apex

[waxen fiber]

Need is a strong word here, they don't need to be, but it can be fun to find if they are rare enough

[delicate osprey]

Aren't apexes supposed to be the hardest things to get tho? Putting them into the wild takes away the entire point

Literal EOS speedrun

Another way for us to get apexes faster could be by them buffing raid rewards instead of putting them into the wild

Or giving their Components through islas

[waxen fiber]

That's why it needs to be rare, and not give too much dna, you should feel lucky that you get that boost, but it shouldn't be something that you rely on (id even go to the point of saying that they turn into other creatures before lv 20)

[waxen fiber]

That's something that should happen either way tbh

[delicate osprey]

Ah yes a wild alanky apex

[waxen fiber]

Reminds me of when anklos lux spawned that one day

[delicate osprey]

That was a bug if memory served me right

[waxen fiber]

I remember wishing I had the ability to explore hoping i could get a dart attempt

[waxen fiber]

Ya it was, thankfully as it gave too much dna for a regular occurring thing

[leaden mirage]

no bro, apexes shouldn't be wild spawns

people keep trying to twist what an apex means. First with islas, now suggestions like these

[delicate osprey]

But but- they can be balanced 🥹
(Won't be)

[delicate osprey]

Exactly

Grind the damn thing out, after all it is the hardest class to get for a reason

[waxen fiber]

Honestly I think most people are thinking that them being wild means everyone gets them easy with no work, that's something they could easily balance out, if they become a spawn they should be VERY rare

[leaden mirage]

something being very rare is still easy work

[delicate osprey]

Knowing How this damn company operates you are being too optimistic

[leaden mirage]

you could put in work and never find it in the wild, or you could put in no work and find it

[waxen fiber]

(The fact that they probably won't is fair, but they also probably won't take any of these suggestions

[delicate osprey]

Exactly, it's a matter of luck either way

[leaden mirage]

wild uniques were already one thing, wanting wild apexes unironically is insane

[delicate osprey]

Ikr

[waxen fiber]

It definitely needs to be Very rare, and at least a 1 a month limit

[leaden mirage]

it's still insane no matter how rare

[delicate osprey]

This entire thread feels like begging for easy free things, there are other ways to go around by in terms of more apex dna

But wild ain't it chief

[waxen fiber]

Non hybrid uniques was definitely too much

[delicate osprey]

Yeah why want apexes when we already have those

[leaden mirage]

exactly, so no reason to try saying there should be extremely rare apexes

[delicate osprey]

^^^^^

[waxen fiber]

It could be nice if done right, definitely not something we need

[delicate osprey]

It won't be done right knowing Jamdia

[leaden mirage]

there's no way to do it right

as in it's literally impossible to implement them in the wild and do it right, because the concept itself just sucks

[delicate osprey]

Being the hardest thing in the game to get and grind for in order to make it feel like an achievement and yall want it wild?! That's crazy work

[leaden mirage]

apexes were supposed to be endgame raids. Then they made them endgame hybrids

they aren't supposed to be haha gambling creatures on the map with an incredibly low chance. There is no way to implement them correctly because it breaks the fundamental of what an apex is

[waxen fiber]

That much is untrue, if rare enough, doesn't give alot of dna, with high enough limits it can feel fun

[delicate osprey]

Jamdia would rather make profit than to EVER give us something that "good" and stupid

[leaden mirage]

it is true. Like I said with my previous message

they are endgame raids and hybrids. Not endgame "get lucky" non hybrids

[delicate osprey]

(Called ENDGAME for a reason btw)

[leaden mirage]

notice how all of them require some sort of grind. Them spawning on the map isn't a grind. Sure, you can travel around a lot and dart more things in hope you'll come across it, but it'd all come down to LUCK

[waxen fiber]

Ok, the reason we have event exclusives here

[delicate osprey]

This entire thread is heavy cope with asking for more balance break, I honestly hope this never becomes a thing

Rare or not it can't be done right with the CURRENT business model

[leaden mirage]

having some extremely low chance apex spawn on the map just isn't a good idea to me. It's not a fair system in terms of progression

[waxen fiber]

(Well not really, but it does come across that way)

[delicate osprey]

It comes along that way by reading the whole damn thing

We got a whole FREE gryga, chill with the apexes

[waxen fiber]

I just think that it can be done in a way that they feel good but don't ruin it much because grinding the components is more achievable

[delicate osprey]

The business model matters alot when it comes to this idea as well, they won't do it because it won't benefit them in any way, shape or form

[leaden mirage]

it might feel good to the person that comes across it, but how would it feel to people that can't find any?

[waxen fiber]

That argument does affect every suggestion here

[leaden mirage]

what if you spend the entire day searching for the wild apex and nothing? Now try that for weeks, still nothing

[delicate osprey]

Its a matter of luck, basically adding unnecessary rng

[waxen fiber]

It shouldn't be enough dna that players feel they need it

[leaden mirage]

at least with uniques they aren't THAT rare in the wild. Short range epics do have a stupidly low spawn rate rn but that's another issue

[waxen fiber]

That's good, you should be lucky to get one every month or more

[delicate osprey]

Oml

[leaden mirage]

regardless, the mechanic wouldn't be satisfying for majority of players. Heck, I wouldn't even be satisfied coming across one because I would simply hate the existence of a feature like it

[waxen fiber]

The thing is, the available uniques are only available through wild, these apexes would be better off grind able other ways

[leaden mirage]

then just keep those ways how they are

[delicate osprey]

It is best I stop arguing here, this entire thread is a apex beg fest with a sprinkle of "balancing" knowing damn well Jamdia won't balance it in any way and if they do implement it, it will be as a P2W way that benefits them money wise

[leaden mirage]

if they're grindable by fusing, then keep it that way

[plain scroll]

if they did this, you KNOW it wouldn't be current apexes, they'd make a whole new nonhybrid nonraidable apex, that would keep you from completing your dex for months to years... plus it would prolly be super broken, so the only ones that would really benefit would be p2w vs f2p... we don't need more imbalance.

[leaden mirage]

is that not outrageous though?

[waxen fiber]

I think if they actually balance it right than that shouldn't be true

Anyway I'm done arguing over a "could be nice" thing they likely won't add anyway

[delicate osprey]

Zero braincells

[daring pelican]

etzuko. has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[leaden mirage]

on paper, having an ultra rare thing to dart on the map would be sick. But this isn't the type of game for that in reality

[delicate osprey]

This is so real tho, only whales will benefit because they can pay

And that thing would probably be broken as all hell too

The whole idea just doesn't work, like my apologies

[waxen fiber]

Why? You are lucky if you are missing 2 fusions

[delicate osprey]

But cmon, why sugarcoat our want for more apex through "balancing ways" when the statement above is definitely possible

Which will make the entire thing more P2W

[waxen fiber]

Completely missing the point of suggestions 💀

[delicate osprey]

They are right tho

They won't be THAT generous

[waxen fiber]

And suggestions are always ignored anyway

[delicate osprey]

Unfortunately, and I hope this one in particular stays that way

Because it is damn stupid

[waxen fiber]

If they do it wrong and not as my suggestion is, than same

[delicate osprey]

You want apexes? Ask for more islas that feature their components and buff to raid rewards

[plain scroll]

have you ever known L/JC to do something RIGHT out of the gate?

[delicate osprey]

This thread is goofy and naive low key, we gotta be realistic

[waxen fiber]

I do that too, those are things I want more than this

[delicate osprey]

Knowing how the game is operating rn, they will make the entire idea p2w

Then suggest that instead of wild apexes

[delicate osprey]

Actually imma go do that rn

[waxen fiber]

Unfortunately no, but using that logic all suggestions shouldn't exist

[delicate osprey]

We are talking about this one

[plain scroll]

maybe someday i'll get to see actual max dna, and not visual max dna - talking about dumb choices for no reason and suggestions never taken

[delicate osprey]

Some suggestions low key deserve to not be taken

[plain scroll]

when i make suggestions, i do try to make them where they won't be game breaking when L/JC gets through with it...

[waxen fiber]

Then say feedback on the suggestion, not feedback on their implementation

[delicate osprey]

I am saying for both ways because it is important to look at it from both ways

This thread is the definition of un realistic

[waxen fiber]

When I make suggestions, I make my suggestion, if they mess it up, its no longer my suggestion

[delicate osprey]

The issue is wild apexes are a dumb idea whatever way you bend it but I won't argue anymore

[waxen fiber]

All suggestions are

[delicate osprey]

I am talking about this one SPECIFICALLY?

Whatever ciao

[waxen fiber]

I don't see how it's different

Anyway cya, I'm done saying anything over something that honestly, is so low priority to me

[oak spindle]

I have better plan how about rarity wild dna which you can put in any creature of the same rarity as the wild dna BUT before anyone says a word you are only allowed to use these wild DNA on something that's already unlocked, I'm sure that's gonna help f2p and p2w players to be sorta equal instead of this

[waxen fiber]

That's actually a good idea for a balancing limitation

[oak spindle]

and they can have chance to be obtained from incubators instead of getting something like velociraptor from incubator you get common wild dna

but not guaranteed sorta thing it's just chance that one of the dinos turn into wild dna

[waxen fiber]

Can say you need specialized darts to retrieve dna, which requires you to have the creature to make

[oak spindle]

no no don't dart it won't work with darting it's best from incubators because you dart you need that specific dino not wild dna

that just adds extra step for no reason at least incubator you can sorta have chance to change something useless to better one

and ofc they should have cap so they don't increase for infinite

[waxen fiber]

Oh so trading dna for wildcard dna

Can see that working out nicely

[oak spindle]

not really what I mean is that let's just say you have raptor incubator and you get either velociraptor or common wild DNA because if you just see raptor chances are you won't do that tower it just waste of time but with wild common DNA that you can use on something like plateo to level it up then you could do the tower and see if you get it or no encouraging you to do more towers

so it's 50% either raptor or wild dna

[waxen fiber]

Ya that makes sense, simular to like rare candy in pokemon go

[oak spindle]

or wild card in CR

that's how I got the idea ngl

[waxen fiber]

Sounds like it could work nicely

[oak spindle]

but just to say ot again in case someone messed it you only allowed to use them when that dino is unlocked and to make it more balanced you can only use them on hybrids that you have ingredients for at right level so no your free Gryganyth won't take apex wild DNA until you level up grypo and giga

because ik someone will say well you won't need giga or grypo anymore because your free Gryganyth well here's your solution

also I'd this could benefit raids too because I say first incubator must guarantee boss dna but mini incubators should have chance to give unique or apex wild DNA to at least make grind for them worth it

I say 15-20 for unique and 5-10 for apex

I should be owner of ludia fr I will make that my plan in 2025 and I will buff Alloraptor idc

[leaden mirage]

no.

not a fan of this, I think even if you have the apex unlocked and have giga/grypo at fusing level, you shouldn't be able to find it in the wild. Makes no sense

[waxen fiber]

Glad i wasn't the only one that misunderstood it

Its more of a separate dna given out where the current dna is

[leaden mirage]

yeah no, I don't like it

[waxen fiber]

I think it should either be that, or more ways to target specific dna

I personally would have rathered indolycan dna over gryganyth, even if less

[oak spindle]

that's not what I said

[leaden mirage]

maybe I understood it wrong, but I just don't like the idea at all regardless

[oak spindle]

I will explain it better after my exam

[leaden mirage]

raid apexes and apex hybrids, that's all there needs to be imo. Closest thing is wild uniques which go straight into apexes anyway that it's practically 1/2 of an apex

[leaden mirage]

nah I get it

wildcard apex dna that can be used for an apex you own with components at fuse level, automatically not a fan if it could be obtained through wild means even with the requirements you suggested

[waxen fiber]

The dna is obtained in the same way currently, just wildcard instead of a dedicated creature

[leaden mirage]

so then why even say "apex wild dna"

I understand how wildcard dna works

[waxen fiber]

For example this isla, instead of having 300 gry, may have like 100 wildcard (technically no difference in amount was stated, just assumed)

[leaden mirage]

yeah that would be cool I don't have a problem with that

[waxen fiber]

Not sure, confused me at first too

[leaden mirage]

I think it's a misunderstanding because they said apex wild DNA instead of apex wildcard DNA

[waxen fiber]

Probably just that

[leaden mirage]

and if so I think it should be a discussion for another post as that's completely different but I do think it could be cool

would be cool if they gave out wildcard dna in tournaments/isla events/occasional strike towers/arena

[waxen fiber]

Best part is its not only apex

[oak spindle]

by wild I mean you can just add it to anything not specific not that you get it in wild like darting it just flexible with it you can add like 20 to Gryganyth then add 10 to magnaraptor like that as long as you have it

I just didn't name it wildcard because that's a class 😅

[velvet wraith]

I’m not bro 💀