It’s about time concatosaurus gets a DESERVED nerf.

[feral wren]

I'm sure I speak for the majority here when I say concatosaurus has been one of the most ANNOYING things to fight in pvp for months. I know this post will get a few downvotes from people who have invested in it and don't want it nerfed, but try to think about others and the game too instead of just your own team.

[amber raft]

real

[median root]

peak

[pearl cave]

Definitely...............yes, please, concatosaurus leads my hate list, even up the old concatoloch

[olive rapids]

It deserves a nerf more than concatoloch

[deft dawn]

lmao

[keen steppe]

W

[olive rapids]

The peak of jwa is here

[median root]

btw

we only need one change

remove the counter 🙂

[pearl cave]

Yes

[olive rapids]

Yeah

[median root]

or nerf it

[feral wren]

Either Make its counter not bypass anything or remove the heal

[olive rapids]

No more healing over and over

[keen steppe]

can't wait for some people to say it's not shores relevant therefore no nerf

[pearl cave]

Remove the heal

[keen steppe]

even though it's amazing in tournaments

[pearl cave]

Of the counter obviously

[median root]

wait no give it the heal 6% of hp counter

[olive rapids]

Unfortunately for them, jwa does not limit to Nublar shores

[thick summit]

I think a slight health nerf
removal of cleanse distract on the counter
and either removal of shattering or precision on the counter is good
or the heal

[keen steppe]

@feral wren you should explain a bit more in the initial comment that the biggest issue about is is more so tournaments and not pvp. In lower arenas it's a bigger issue, but the biggest issue is tournaments where it's almost unkillable

[pearl cave]

No, with heal, he can purify distraction

[thick summit]

active moveset is fine aside from ferocious resil removing damage increase

[olive rapids]

Facing 8k to 10k health concatosaurus is nearly impossible in library

[pearl cave]

Even i prefer see an old toloch E1

[feral wren]

Dare i say

[pearl cave]

But the unique, oh god, impossible

[feral wren]

I personally think that concatosaurus is even more obnoxious than conloch

[olive rapids]

Fr

[deft dawn]

give it group hastening instead of nullifying

[pearl cave]

Same

[thick summit]

I'd disagree
still obnoxious

[olive rapids]

Nah it’s just real

[keen steppe]

concatosaurus can be more obnoxious due to the fact that it also shows up in a lot more tournaments. But at higher level pvp, it's not as bad

[thick summit]

I use Concato now so obviously it helps me if its still good
but its too good
issue is we also need to nerf Proton if we do that

[olive rapids]

I have always been thinking that concatosaurus is worse to kill than concatoloch

[thick summit]

because Proton is in a similar situation just fewer people have it

[pearl cave]

Nah, proto with some of distraction is easy

and he can't handle the vast majority of Apex

It's balanced i think

[thick summit]

I never have issues with Concato either
this is also because I am in aviary with a good Poukan
I play smart and deal with them easily
outside of that its annoying

[olive rapids]

In any case, there will always be that one dino that is hard or practically unbeatable and horrible to face in this game

[olive rapids]

What level is your concato ?

[feral wren]

I personally think that the biggest issue is the counter and weirdly high stats

[olive rapids]

Counter + too much health

[thick summit]

25
will go to 26 once I get the dna

[pearl cave]

With a change in the counter, and reduce some resistances, im fine

[deft dawn]

what color is your bugatti

[thick summit]

oh yeah another big one
remove the rend res

[pearl cave]

Yes

[deft dawn]

yes

[feral wren]

The counter either shouldn’t heal or shouldn’t bypass anything

[olive rapids]

Yeah, at lvl 25 it’s still beatable

[keen steppe]

I applaud them for not making the other new uniques as good as concatosaurus

[olive rapids]

I don’t have one

[thick summit]

I face way higher then 25

again
I'm in aviary
with Poukan I wall because usually the opponent doesn't use their hyper boosted Concato very well

[olive rapids]

I mean, that a lvl 25 concato is not unbalanced, unlike level 28 to 30

[kind raptor]

Make the counter just decelerating counter + 10% ferocity after the attack

[olive rapids]

Well good for you then

[thick summit]

again
if I don't have poukan
or if I'm in a tournament
it is very annoying

[pearl cave]

Concatosaurus E2 20-10-0 ☠️ I can't imagine that, and neither want to see it

[olive rapids]

I have already saw it, I just quit the battle at that point

[feral wren]

Stats:
HP 5150 > 4950

DMG 1400 > 1300

Resistances:
Removed swap prevention and rend resistance

Distraction resistance 75% > 50%

Taunt Resistance 50% > 100%

[arctic totem]

what about compsovenator tho

[olive rapids]

It looks good, I would personally also remove (or nerf) the increased amount of armor on the nullifying impact

[thick summit]

I have no issue here

one thing is ferocious resil should remove speed increase not damage increase

[fervent epoch]

finally thylos can clap it 🗣️

[feral wren]

Thylos' only good matchup in unique tournaments 💀

[thick summit]

Thylos try not to be useless outside of killing concatoloch challenge

[fervent epoch]

impossible difficulty

[thick summit]

I find it funny how that is just the one thing keeping Thylos usage rates intact

[feral wren]

I mean

[pearl cave]

You know what's next that everyone here will want to see nerfed? rajadorixis

You will see it in the next skill tournament if they don't change it before

[thick summit]

true actually

next skill tournament will be fun my only apex hybrid is gemd

[pearl cave]

Now it's the best dino

[thick summit]

I think Compso is

[feral wren]

Now that gryganyth kills concatoloch 90% of the time thylos will probably plummet as it has no other niche (unless you don’t have enough dna to get gryganyth or trykov)

[pearl cave]

Can defeat plateorex, gryganith, sah panthera, magnaraptor, concatoloch, draco lux

Megalocevia also

Only trykovenator is it's counter

[thick summit]

wait...

oh yeah maybe I can't show that one

[pearl cave]

😂

[thick summit]

its an accurate matchup spread but it has datamined stuff
how fun

[pearl cave]

And no, plateorex can't kill rajadorixis

Only in 20%

Greater shield+decimate and gg

[thick summit]

I see

[feral wren]

I doubt

Plateorex can go double impact bulwark and block most of the decimation since it doesn’t bypass armor

[pearl cave]

Let me see

You are right, maybe there is another alternative, make the decimate on the first move, 30% probability of winning

[cunning crane]

I made this a while back

[pearl cave]

Yes please 😂

[thick summit]

This is not how you nerf concato

[pearl cave]

I have some questions: concakuisaurus hasn't armor, tenonto hasn't armor, WHY concatosaurus has 15% and TWO moves with armor increase? Why has nullify??? Why exist????

[feral wren]

We need to get this thread to be as popular as the concatoloch one so they hopefully nerf this stupid unique 💀

They’re actual nightmares to deal with in tournaments and 60% of the time in arenas

[devout burrow]

The whole lineage is about to be nerfed

[cunning crane]

Besides the non hybrid ones

Concato will

Concakui is actually fine

[devout burrow]

Then let's buff it

And then nerf it after 4 updates

[brazen epoch]

Copy paste suggestion just changed the name of the Dino instead on conch

[cunning crane]

Fr

[modest nimbus]

why does everybody in this server have a skill issue?
first it was concatoloch who could get easily taken out even from the best players by 3 creatures. now it's Concatosaurus! if you have such a problem with the game then maybe get better! the world relies on them and since they've made the best game, we should cut them some slack it won GOTY 3 times in a row! so just shut up and get better stupids

|| if you believed even one word I said, ||

[keen steppe]

this is a believable response from certain people here

[olive rapids]

lol i love the get better argument

Makes no sense with concatosaurus

You can be the best player of the game

You will still get destroyed

[keen steppe]

well no

in shores we don't find concatosaurus problematic at all

[modest nimbus]

well no shi sherlock 💀
y'all have the best creatures

[keen steppe]

well no shi yeah, but look at what my response was to

[modest nimbus]

o

[devout burrow]

Nah the game is definitely worthy of Game Of The Year

[modest nimbus]

yeah it's def winning this year again

[feral wren]

Mainly because of gryganyth tbh

Otherwise concato could be a pretty niche pick in shores

[keen steppe]

gryganyth, dlux, pretty easy to revenge kill

[wooden tiger]

Unique formats got me despising concato

[pearl cave]

Don't nerf it, please delete it

[thick summit]

Pincho

[pearl cave]

Yes, a lot of skill issue maybe, but, bruh

[pearl cave]

Pincho 🗿

[feral wren]

Gryganyth is secretly a scorpion

[oblique niche]

Geez .. More whining from people who have little skill in forming a diverse team and in developing battle strategies. This dino needs no nerf. You just need to get better. Stop the whining and spend that energy learning how to play the game better.

[modest nimbus]

you've got to be joking right?

[oblique niche]

Not in the least. The dino is fine.

[modest nimbus]

well
concatosaurus is one of the main problems of powercreep and it also beats almost every unique in the game except for grypo which even then relies on rng to kill it, it has an absurd amount of hp which it follows up by healing a crap ton every 2 turns meaning you basically can't kill it without some help from another creature, even worse is its damage output including the god forsaken counter which basically lets you deal 3000 damage every turn to creatures that don't have Armor, it's not a skill issue if you can't kill something designed to be broken, it's an issue if you think it's completely fine for a game to ruin the gameplay of its player base to get some extra cash

I'm not sure how calling me a loser disproves what I said, if you don't have anything to say other than skill issue then please look at how you play games and where you stand right now in the game if you think concato is "balanced"

[devout burrow]

Grown ass dude acting like a child for spelling loser using reactions

[modest nimbus]

bro thinks he's him by reacting with clown emojis 💀

[devout burrow]

Pov: how @oblique niche feels rn

[thick rune]

You have a Tmet?

[modest nimbus]

heavily boosted but yes

and no before you say it counters it, it doesn't

[velvet veldt]

Concatosaurus:

[wooden tiger]

Rampage Intervention into OE abuse hits different

[velvet veldt]

Rampage intervention, then try to switch. Tmet wil do the attack on escape, and thus triggering the counter

[modest nimbus]

real

[wooden tiger]

In boosted you also usually just 2-shot anyway unless the Tmet RK'd you with tyrant's roar

[thick summit]

you've been looser reacted

I'm sorry for your loss

you'll need to pick out music for your funeral

[modest nimbus]

yeah such a lethal blow to my life,
how should I possibly recover from such a fatal hit?

[slim snow]

Removing the nullify would be nice I can't lie 😅

Also adding a delay to rampage intervention. Especially when armour piercing rampage has a delay.

[feral wren]

Geez.. more idiots that can’t take a nerf to an OP creature without whining.

[thick summit]

again
I use concatosaurus
its too good

I say give it the Concatoloch treatment
keep it very useable but not as good

[feral wren]

Aka this nerf

(Makes it unironically better for raids)

[thick summit]

yeah just this

[pearl cave]

☠️

[devout burrow]

Sending condolences from Illinois 🙏🙏🙏

[pearl cave]

Thx 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[devout burrow]

Praying for your quick recovery

[blissful valley]

just give it a goddamn counter

[thick rune]

For the low low price of $100

Plus the $400 for the DNA and coin to level it up

[oblique niche]

There are plenty. Stun is your friend.

[blissful valley]

In all of the unique format
there are two half counters, both of which are 50/50/predictions

that is not balanced by any means

[feral wren]

More like pray to everything that you land a stun

[wooden tiger]

It can also always just

Swap out of them as well

So pray for that too 😎🙏

And, to top it off, those are 2 of the big 4 💀🙏

[modest nimbus]

yeah you have to pray for every bit of luck to even have a chance at beating the mf

[wooden tiger]

There's a reason people end up having to swap concatosaurus on concatosaurus

[oblique niche]

So not true. It is good no doubt, but can be beaten reasonably often in shores and gyro. May be tougher in library than other dinos people have but that doesn't mean it's unreasonable just because it is better than a lot of uniques.

[modest nimbus]

so lemme get this straight, only the 2 highest arenas can beat while the rest can just screw off?

[oblique niche]

You need to work to get better dinos and the result of that is you will rise in the arenas and slowly develop counters to the same dinos you complain incessantly about. You just want someone to make your life easier instead of putting in the effort like those of us in the higher arenas have. It takes time and patience - if you suffer from needing immediate gratification, this may not be the game for you. We have the same issue in those arenas with beastly dinos like L30 fully boosted StegoU, Sinraptor, and Yuty (which by the way ALL crush concato) but guess what? We just play the game understanding we will lose sometimes because someone else has built better dinos (it's not fun facing the whales and getting crushed but it's part of the game design). We don't go on crying about it in multiple nerf posts like you and others do. Instead, we take pride when we do overcome the odds with a rare victory AND build up our teams (and it does take awhile) and design them to be able to counter them as best we can. Perhaps your time complaining here woule be better spent building up your team?

[velvet veldt]

Saying that getting unfair matches (wheter is in your favor or not) is part of the game design, is the same as saying the game has a bad game design. In a PvP game, you want to make sure players are put against others of equal strenght.

Also, this is not a problem of high arenas like shores or gyro. Is a problem on aviary and lower, where people don't have any apexes until really late, nor Omegas of that high level, unless they are the said whales or a dropper; as well as a tourneys where only uniques or lower are allowed. The best most have are uniques, and there isn't anything really that can consistently deal with it (Styraco lux and Dsungascorpius needs to get lucky with stun). And if there's not a single consistent counter in the same rarity it belongs, it might as well need a nerf.

[modest nimbus]

first of all, I'm in school but hey I'll give you some attention
first off the "get better" argument makes no sense of which I'm noticing is your whole point, getting better means nothing to players that already are better and still find problems in the game because how do you get better if there's literally no way for you to get better because you have basically everything unlocked and you're a good player with skill? basically what you're telling me is that it doesn't matter if it's an op creature that can stop the rest of its rarity as long as it makes you win, that's bogus. not only is it not fun for others, it's not fun for everyone involved that plays the game.

second of all, I'm not sure why you think saying that I have a skill issue and that I'm a crybaby improves your argument. at this point you're not even trying to make a point you're just saying I'm an annoying piece of crap but the thing is I'm not even the one who made this thread fyi, a lot of people including me think that powercreep is a huge problem in the game and this is one of many posts wanting it to be solved because games are supposed to be fun, not depressing.

third of all, you're saying I should get better and I should be spending this time grinding instead of ranting with you, well I can say the same thing to you and fyi I spend 40 hours a week on this game and am in one of the best alliances, I know how to have patience and how to get something I really want to unlock. also it's none of your business what game I like and what game I would like to spend my time on.

fourth of all, just because it's not a problem for a higher arena doesn't mean that arenas like aviary should be neglected. I'm no freeloader who rides off my alliance's championship rewards. I actually work for my apexes and my tournament scores and I don't just want things to be handed to me outright, I want to work for them and for them to be worth it.

also a word of advice, don't assume stuff about people or even try to act like we're just lazy and don't want to work for our stuff. we care about the game and only suggest what's best for it

well I gtg now, I wrote a lot lol

[blissful valley]

There is no valid argument for concato to not deserve a nerf

Concato, Plateo, Doe, and Gigantspino all need nerfs

Realistically iguanodon and tenontosaurus should be nerfed too

[thick summit]

I back to back killed 2 Conlochs with my 25 4/3/0 Concato
one was L28 one was L30

just because both missed the stun

[dapper dragon]

Wouldnt say pvp, more tournaments

[dapper dragon]

The nerf gigantspino deserves is a reduction to the heal or armor increase on BTI (impact) or nerf the hp and counter, it is too opressive

Gigantspino is the defenition of broken, can kill dinos up to 3 rarities higher, if u dont break shields/ have dot you will struggle

[dapper dragon]

*"protect the skill because you dont have any" (iguano/oloro basic) and tenonto need nerfs

Protect the herd is too broken

[brazen epoch]

Just remove the dodge on protect the herd mainly

[cunning crane]

That will ruin them in raids

[brazen epoch]

Still though why can resilient dodge?

And also stills gives shield and armour as a resilient should

[feral wren]

Just replace protect the herd with something else

[spark rivet]

Yeah

[feral wren]

It can stay exclusive on olorotitan

[spark rivet]

I'd say to give it to Raid dinos like Tuora

[feral wren]

No

[spark rivet]

Why not ?

Nvm
Tuora would benefit from that too much

[feral wren]

Tuoramoloch already has a no cooldown 1x healing strike

Its good enough

[spark rivet]

Totally forgot that, tought it had the old moveset

Yeah Oloro exclusive is good

[modest nimbus]

"get better" is a really frequently used argument in these types of posts, worst thing is, it's against creatures that make sense to get nerfed, I'd agree if it was something stupid like Hadros Lux but this Concatosaurus, basically a borderline apex allowed to compete with uniques, it's just not fair and it rightfully deserves a nerf especially when its child got it

[blissful valley]

"get better" mfs when there deadass be no counters in unique

[feral wren]

Atleast GGspino can be somewhat kept in check by dimodactylus and pulmon tag team

Against concato you have to pray that rng is on your side and not on their side

[dapper dragon]

That is the problem, you have to tag it, there is no direct counter, same with concato

[feral wren]

No like

Atleast GGspino can be tagged. Concato can’t

[dapper dragon]

Yup, concato spams heals like there is no tomorrow

Grypo couters it, however it is required that it doesnt resist a SP attempt

Not allways can grypo counter it easily

[blissful valley]

Grypo is rng

Possibly predictions or both

[feral wren]

Grypo is both RNG and predictions

[wooden tiger]

The whole chain at once 😇 in every rarity

since 2.7

[feral wren]

If concat predicts ferocious defense and goes cleanse then grypo is dead af

[wooden tiger]

Also not everything is about arena

[feral wren]

Concato is still extremely annoying in arena

All i ask for is this type of nerf/rework

It doesn’t kill the thing but makes it more manageable

[dapper dragon]

Ik, it is semi reliable at beat

Best*

[keen steppe]

"get better" doesn't work on someone who is already at your level if not better

but seriously, I won't sugarcoat to you anymore like I did on my last post. Spelling out "LOSER" because you have nothing better to do with your life as a grown adult is petty af

especially when not only are your points invalid, but you're also just worse at the game than me. Get good

[modest nimbus]

not the yawn reaction 💀

they really proved you there
you should just call it quits that comeback can destroy careers

[keen steppe]

if you block them they can no longer react to the message, found his weakness 😂

[modest nimbus]

lol
as much as how toxic they are Ima let em continue their nonsense

[fathom hill]

Js counter with tmet with 120+ speed and 2 k attack

You will never lose

[keen steppe]

can't do that in unique skill tournaments where concatosaurus is the biggest issue

[fathom hill]

Fair

However still counters with its high dpt

[keen steppe]

no it doesn't

[fathom hill]

Well fore me it does

[keen steppe]

concatosaurus goes rampage intervention turn 1, then it swaps out which triggers tmet OE ability

and the OE ability triggers concato counter, which means concato wins every time unless your opponent is doing something wrong, which means tmet does not counter it.

[fathom hill]

Well I go first bog hit then they do the oe trigger then I do priority which has boosted damage and I smoke em

[keen steppe]

turn 1 - Concatosaurus uses Rampage Intervention
Tyrannometrodon uses Group Devouring Impact

turn 2 - Concatosaurus swaps out, kills Tyrannometrodon with the counter

[fathom hill]

Coz I do 3k first hit leaving him on 1.2k hp then he heals 2 k and I hit him healing me and hitting him for 2k then I look at how much hp I have if I’m too low I Js swap out for one of the panthers

[keen steppe]

you won't be able to do the priority if you're dead on turn 2 by them swapping

also, I'm talking about both being at level 26 and no boosts

[fathom hill]

Yeah

[keen steppe]

because you said it counters there even though I proved it does not

turn 2, tmet dies

[fathom hill]

He will still have 200 hp see

[keen steppe]

wrong.

[fathom hill]

He is on 1600

[keen steppe]

concatosaurus counter deals 1610 base damage because of 15% damage increase

[fathom hill]

Sorry forgot about that

Your right

[feral wren]

Fight a level 30 boosted concato and you’ll know what pain feels like

[velvet veldt]

That's on base Tmet. He said that the Tmet has 120 speed (so at least 5 boosts) and 2k attack (so 3 boosts). While what @fathom hill said is true, is still a gamble. If Tmet doesn't stop the swap, is very likely Tmet will die anyways, considering how many of the uniques with an attack on entrance (Thylos, Ptor, Styracosaurus, Plateopika,...) are decent on their own at worst, which means will be on the team anyways.

And again this is against a base Concato. A Concato with the same amount of boosts can either do the attack then switch as will normally do, or straight up kill Tmet on turn 1

[fathom hill]

correct

[velvet veldt]

Is not a counter if you need to be lucky, and stop the switch into something with an entrance move

[velvet veldt]

That your Tmet with said boosts hasn't failed you against Concatos, is like saying my Indonemys hasn't failed me against a Cloch. Is not because It is a consistent counter to it, is just that the opponent has an skill issue

[fathom hill]

mm i know

[nova ridge]

Concato becomes crazy op at lvl30 with boosts. I never even sweat against a conloch but if they pull out a max boosted concat I just turn the game off. Not even fun.

[keen steppe]

do I have to repeat again that we were talking about tournaments?

you are correct about the boosted one but keep in mind this discussion is mainly tournaments because that's where it truly shines

[fathom hill]

however mt tmet counters smet somehow

my

[nova bloom]

that would be misplay

[blissful valley]

yeah skoon basically just goes Battle Ready and then one shots next turn