buff Cunning’s

[winter vessel]

Affliction being limited to cunnings is lame imo, main issue is fierce res is such a good combo

[distant spade]

Affliction and nullification seem more like wildcard moves, meaning they can fit with whatever class

And the blighted effect seems more like a fierce ability because resilient heal the most out of the classes and fierce creatures are supossed to counter resilients

[winter vessel]

Mentioning them as cunning moves

[jolly osprey]

POV:

[atomic rose]

Pantherator, Dracovenator

[winter vessel]

Ptor is part fierce

[atomic rose]

But its still cunning

Clever Girl

[winter vessel]

(Of course currently you need to be dual to be good pretty much so I guess we can count it)

[atomic rose]

Nomingia

[winter vessel]

Rajador is #2

Sah is moreso cunning and is 5 now iirc

Compsovenator, magnaraptor

[distant spade]

And part resilient

[winter vessel]

Not really, sah is, and gets rid of the fierce for it

(Even though its advertised as a wildcard)

[distant spade]

Deceleration on swap In and vulnerability in the strike make it part resilient

I've actually suggested before to make Pantherators class into a wildcard

[distant spade]

Sah has some fierce left in it, albeit a random fierce attribute, it has devour which is a primarily fierce move

[winter vessel]

On a swap in in a way it might as well be cunning and resilient, earning devour from a component

[idle ravine]

is that thing actually good

[jolly osprey]

Yes

[winter vessel]

The deceleration is from PB, who is easily cunning (plus swap ins are barely a reason to change a class over)

Now that makes me wonder how ptor got vulnerability

[jolly osprey]

It's a really good opener/closer

[winter vessel]

3rd best raidpex, probably better against the meta than #1

[idle ravine]

Whats your top 3 for raidpexes cuz I never even see them ingame unless its referendum or mortem

[winter vessel]

Kyrie, cranix, haast

[idle ravine]

Didnt know cranix was any good

[winter vessel]

Ref is unfortunately quite outdated, and mort is second worst without the level advantage

[winter vessel]

Since it's buff it's quite dangerous, can beat cloch if they forget about OE abuse, beats gryganyth and 1 other meta creature iirc too

[idle ravine]

i just wanted cranix cuz it looks cool tbh

[jolly osprey]

Cranix wins against cloch

[winter vessel]

Only thing is, cloch can OE abuse and win 100% of the time

[jolly osprey]

True, but some people are not smart enough to do that

Tbf if I were to buff cranix, I would only buff it's OE

[winter vessel]

Imagine a mechanic that disables counters

Sounds fun, til it's overused

[distant spade]

I consider deceleration to be a resilient move and although swap ins are a small thing that shouldn't mean we should overlook them when deciding the class of a creature

Cunnings could get a critical damage debuff but it'll be kinda weird seeing it in game if a creatures critical damage goes below 100%

If that does happen it'll be like distraction but with many steps

[winter vessel]

I think its very minor, it's not really gonna affect it in a fight against a cunning

[winter vessel]

Would be fun, if crit you deal less haha, only issue is that cunnings already lower chance to 0

[mild moon]

Decelaration was a resilient move, (In the campaign, before the huge change, the game taught you that, aswell as the fact that fierce break Armor and Shield to counter resilient, cunning put diversion to counter Fierce, and resilient slow down cunning)
But After the whole class nerf we got thanks to Cerag and Hadros now it's less represented
Imo, all resilient should have their base move like the strike one from Gdeus
Apply both dec and vuln

[distant spade]

Yeah, but it could screw up those that resist or are immune to crit reduction

[idle ravine]

whats OE

[distant spade]

On Escape

[idle ravine]

ah

[winter vessel]

I mean the swap in

[distant spade]

Russian roulette, don't crit or else

[jolly osprey]

Haast is pure cunning tho

[winter vessel]

I always mistake it as fierce cunning ngl, even though I can't think of why in it's moveset

[distant spade]

Armor decrease and crit increase

[winter vessel]

Nowadays you need to be dual type to be good essentially, so it's hard to say without counting them

Haast doesn't have blight?

Crit chance and armor decrease I can see

I think blight is more of a fierce move as it counters healing which is more of a resilient

Main issue is new mechanics they add are of fierce or resilient, armour decrease/increase, healing decrease/healing increase, devour

Cunning hasn't gotten anything, outside affliction which Is moreso wildcard

[distant spade]

Watch fierce creatures get a crit damage buff ability

[winter vessel]

It will happen in time

[distant spade]

Self: Increase Crit by 100%, increase crit damage by 300%

[winter vessel]

I highly doubt it will let it go higher than 100% increase

But idk

[distant spade]

Yuti will get a buff in the near future with that move. Trust

[willow coyote]

Yep, without the crazy critt damage stuff yuti sucks

[distant spade]

Here is my award winning design for the crit damage buff

[sick pecan]

I thought this was the crit damage buff

[distant spade]

Pretty sure that's just damage and crit increase custom icon

[sick pecan]

Aight

[distant spade]

Or it could be official and I just haven't seen it before

But pretty sure it's just a paleogg custom icon

Yay we got checked mark by a mod 🥳

[mystic leaf]

no it's found inside the files of the game