buff ovyleken

[grizzled wadi]

Ovy isn't OP as hell or top meta but is balanced and still usable
Sometimes it's good to have something that isn't OP
Ovy doesn't need anything as of right now
It's a cunning so it does the job of a cunning
Other like Thor, Laucus, Monolorhino, Mammolania Stygi and other really needs buff
So to conclude, Ovy is far from being useless and having no viability
It's a cunning that does the job of a cunning and that's it
And don't forget that the top meta is just too OP
They finally started to care about balancing and people are already complaining about that...
If we continue we'll never see a ounce of balancing in this game

[grizzled wadi]

Oh my bad dude !
Really sorry about that ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ

Deleted that xD
Hope that it didn't bother you !

[sly jetty]

ovy pretty much loses to everything that it you would worry about facing in unique tournaments, against the top uniques it stands no chance, having a terrible matchup against 99% of things in the meta (it can only beat cerato and thylos basically)

while it shouldn't be beating resilients, it struggles against every other cunnings and gets outclassed by them. It's also nearly outclassed by grylenken, its COMPONENT. Keep in mind, grylenken is good but it's not an absurdly busted legendary, so you'd be contradicting yourself to call ovy balanced

I agree not every new creature should be op or game breaking, but a buff wouldn't make ovylenken a game breaking powercreep creature. You guys act like a buff, even on a BALANCED creature will do something crazy, but a lot of the time it doesn't (As seen with the millions of albertospinos buffs, and that thing still ain't meta)

also, powercreep in moderation is healthy for the game. If people keep wanting mediocre creatures then we'll always be stuck in the same meta, which is worse than having new busted creatures! That's called a stale game

I question the people (not calling you out) who call creatures like this and rajadorixis usable, as half of them don't even have said creatures unlocked or have rarely used them. Testing them on paleo is not enough for you to say it's "balanced", especially when all its matchups say it's below average

[grizzled wadi]

Tested it in the game, and the thing is that Ovy isn't the priority at all
If you wanna buff something don't start by Ovy, why ?
Because all the older Uniques have been ass for pretty much 2 years and became useless
If we wanna buff some unique, Ovy is far from being the priority
And the problem is that, Albertospinos wasn't buffed by JamCity but by Ludia !
So yes, it wasn't busted because the old team wasn't only creating dinos to earn money, so they added a sense of balancing
And, yes doing test in Paleo.Gg isn't the greatest thing but if you wanna try with everything you need to
Also, the powercreep that JamCity gave us isn't healthy at all
People like me who built up older creature, not even Bad when they were in the game, like laucus, have basically started the game from the bottom again
Why ?
Because older dinos just can't deal with newer
The buffed Tryko can deal with any non hybrid Apex that isn't Fierce, is this normal ?
We saw it with Con, they buffed it and now it's the number one Apex
I'm not saying that it shouldn't get anything at all but, as of right now, it's fine and not the priority
If they wanna buff newer dinos they can already either nerf the top ones (Also don't forget that all the unique top meta are just busted and stupidly strong) or buff all the olders
Ovy just came out, and even if it haven't got Big uses in the actual meta, it's still better than almost all the older uniques
I agree that it should atleast beat more cunning than the non meta ones, but in that case get rid of the non cunning resistance and give it a precise rampage
It still beats almost every Fierce
But Ovy is still far from being the most useless unique in this game, there's still most of the OG dinos that are worse than it

Also thanks for responding in a civilized manner !
The number of people that I talked with and don't have the sens of how an argument between 2 person should work is just horrible (Not in this server)
Always getting insulted because you don't have the same opinion as them xD
So thanks again ! (I'm also someone that love arguing in "this sense", Always loved doing that because you can learn from the other person but almost everyone I know don't care at all about that or just don't wanna listen to your opinion ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ)

But how do you guys play Ovy ?
Did a lot of tests and Ovy just needs to crit to win agaisnt Tmet (Wich it will probably do)

[sly jetty]

can you stop making false assumptions?

I mean I agree other uniques definitely deserve buffs more, I never said they didn't. Apinos was buffed by both teams and it doesn't really matter which team buffed it for the sake of the argument

I didn't say the powercreep was healthy at all, I said powercreep can be good in moderation. If anything, you're repeating what I am saying. Powercreep can suck because older creatures that we invest in fall to the bottom, but that's inevitably how any game works and you must suck it up and deal with it

saying that there are worst uniques than ovy doesn't mean ovy doesn't deserve a buff, at least in my opinion. A minor buff could do wonders for it without making it oppressive, it's not like a minor buff instantly makes it top tier. If you disagree, you disagree and that's it. Agree to disagree

[grizzled wadi]

Sorry if you understand me like that, I have difficulties at expressing my taughts especially if it's not my foreign language
What I am saying is that, people already complain and want a buff
Ovy is here about less than 1 week and people already want a buff
Also, most of the Buffs of Aspinos came from the older team and when the top meta were dinos like Rexy panthera and Tmet so the strenght lvl was way differents than now
I also didn't say Ovy don't need a buffs, I agreed that it shouldn't struggle that much with other cunning but it's not the priority and by far
Ovy still has uses, if you play well with it can still be usefull
And powercreep is normaly Not that Big if you build some dinos you should still be able to use them even with powercreep wich is not the case here
Anything that JamCity hasn't buffed is straight up useless and I also didn't say that you said that the powercreep was healthy
I just told it that way because I didn't knew how to say it and I tried after translating it in my mind from what I was saying in my foreign language
Also I wanna know, why I was making false assumptions ? Didn't noticed why after re reading

And also, the last line made me a little angry, maybe I'm wrong and just took that in a bad way and I'm already sorry for that because my nerves starts to slowly vanish, but I don't understand
Because yes I disagree, and I debate about my opinion I say why I found something isn't the priority for me but I'm not saying that someone is wrong, I'm always respectfull about other people opinions and sorry if it appears like that for you

[sly jetty]

so we somewhat agree then, understood

the false assumptions I meant were because I never stated the powercreep was healthy and it seemed like you thought I said that, as well as asking me why worse uniques shouldn't be buffed first even though I agree with it

[grizzled wadi]

Oh okay !
My bad, yeah, I'm pretty bad at describing my taughts and especially in a foreign language, sorry for that xD

But yup, I also agree with you, you have a lot of valid points !