Nerfing Dominant roar

[sleek silo]

Hi. I know lot of guys love that skill, it makes rexes the best in the game... But isnt that actually bad? Being fierce creatures, they demolish most cunning creatures, and attack before resilient who suppouse to at least try to prepare before attack. Roar not only increase atack, but also is group skill, which means flock creatures are destroyed by one skill, and then it increase speed, which makes rexes act before anything. Add high crit chance, and meta is dominated by those dinos.
Dominant roar should thus be nerfed, either it should not increase speed, not deals damage, or not be priority skill. (Most likely should be removed from the game)

[topaz cove]

3k trophies moment

[compact osprey]

They have a point

[old sage]

Given how easy it makes Raids, none of those nerfs should be implemented imo.

And flocks can go jump in Mt Sibo’s burning crater (it’s a volcano not a euphemism).

But it does admittedly need a rework. Imo, a better idea would be to simply rework the buffs so that it applies after Rexy does 1x damage. This way Rexy itself doesn’t immediately benefit from the attack buff, at least making PvPs a little easier, but the rest of the team during Raids still can as long as they’re slower or not using their Priority abilities.

[compact osprey]

Dominant roar isn't that good anymore

[cloud sphinx]

In the legendary meta tho it's still very dangerous

It should probably only increase damage after the attack or at least revert back to when the speed was less

[compact osprey]

Brings out pb, eremo, scorp, what do you do

[cloud sphinx]

It can swap and come back in with an instant 0 delay attack

Also if you mean epic scorpion I'm pretty sure that gets one shot

[nocturne compass]

Hey

If dominant roar is the problem then the game probably know about the problem and in the future there will probably be other creatures that can counter it even with all the old uniques getting buffed

How about instead of a 50% atk increase, 25% or 30% atk increase

[cloud sphinx]

They know it's op but it gives them money. That's why they actually buffed the move for no reason

[nocturne compass]

Fax

[cloud sphinx]

In future there will definitely be things that can counter it but that just continues to increase the power gap between old and new creatures making the game even more unbalanced

[nocturne compass]

Also true

I think that all RAPTORS should have a move that i made myself

Nullifying Elimination Strike
TARGET ALL OPPONENTS: 1.33x attack, Nullify all positive effects, Reduce damage 25%
Cooldown 1

[cloud sphinx]

Is this to replace their strike moves?

Because that's really quite op

[nocturne compass]

Yes but with a cooldown

[cloud sphinx]

What would it do if you timed out

[nocturne compass]

Consuming Strike
TARGET CURRENT CREATURE:1.25x attack, remove all positives, and you gain all the positives

Resilient move

Impact moves replacement

[normal fiber]

If the roar becomes alert like that of your hybrid tyrannometrodon it will only become a priority if your life is half over.

[cloud sphinx]

That's actually quite a cool idea for a new creature

[nocturne compass]

Thnx you

[compact osprey]

I think at the bare minimum the speed up buff needs to be reverted

[nocturne compass]

From 25 % speed inc to 10%

[cloud sphinx]

That's what I'm sayin

[compact osprey]

10% speed up would be perfect honestly

[cloud sphinx]

There was no reason for it anyway

[compact osprey]

Maybe 15% for spinocera and thylac but not to outspeed cunnings

[heavy zenith]

I agree
that serious problem is dominant roar can use again without cooling time..

If there was a 2~3 cooling time after the dominant roar, the balance would not have destroyed like this

[silent phoenix]

Dominant roar has a 2 turn cd

[heavy zenith]

We can use dominant roar right again after dominant roar is over

[silent phoenix]

That’s different than using dominant roar back to back

Because you saying it needs a 2 turn cd when it has one is misleading

[heavy zenith]

okay I can't English well

[silent phoenix]

It’s fine

I get your point now. I also agree there should be time between the buffs expiring and being able to use it again

[heavy zenith]

Yeah right

[vocal rivet]

Rexy isn't that bad any more lmao

Dracov completely destroys it

[cloud sphinx]

Just because it has a few counters in a higher rarity doesn't mean something is balanced

[vocal rivet]

Also like

PB exists

In no way do I think rexy is balanced, but as powercreep contuines she's nowhere near as powerful as she was

Pretty much any cunning with a decent ammount of hp can counter it. Indoraptor and Indoraptor GEN 2 are decent as well against it

[cloud sphinx]

True but there is still an immense power gap between rexy and other legendarys

[silent phoenix]

Yeah but I’ve mentioned before, rexy dominates the lower arenas like nothing else ever has. It needs a nerf, if not for shores, for the bottom 5 arenas

[vocal rivet]

It doesn't anymore

Not with Cerato and Dracov knocking about down there

[cloud sphinx]

People with base level epics have it which allows them to completely sweep opponents they once found a challenge

[silent phoenix]

Chances of your opponent having rexy are higher than that of cerato/dracoven

[vocal rivet]

Doesn't mean it isn't common

[silent phoenix]

But it is lol

It’s been in almost every pass plus it’s a wild spawn

If you nerf cerato and dracoven, then rexy will be over dominant again. It needs to be nerfed, if not with others then by itself

[vocal rivet]

They won't nerf anything anyway

[cloud sphinx]

I have about 4000 DNA of it despite never having any intention to use it or it's hybrid. If lower levels have enough coin they could easily get it lvl 26 or higher

[vocal rivet]

No they can't lmao

Not level 26, they can't dart it well enough

[cloud sphinx]

I have never darted rexy in the wild

[compact osprey]

I feel like rexy is definitely the best legendary at least

[silent phoenix]

All you need is a 16 rexy and you’re guaranteed to fly through the arenas

[vocal rivet]

That or pb yeah

[compact osprey]

Maybe not in arena but against other legendaries she's the strongest

[vocal rivet]

Then you hit the stop, where you can't go any higher

You also gotta think about epics

[compact osprey]

I don't know about that, dimo and spino make sure pb isn't the best

[silent phoenix]

Because your clutch rexy can’t clutch anymore

[vocal rivet]

Exactly. People get rexy. Rise up til they can't. They're now at their correct arena level

[vocal rivet]

Not in skill, arena pb or rexy are the best

In skill rexy is definitely the strongest

But a dominant roar nerf isn't helpful anymore

[silent phoenix]

No, they’re not. If their average team level is 3-4 levels lower than their rexys level, there is no way the should be in manor

[compact osprey]

I'd say pb maybe since almost no one uses resilients lower down so things are better for it

[vocal rivet]

You aren't getting to estate with that lmao. Myabe ruins if you're lucky

[compact osprey]

I still firmly believe the speed duration buff needs to be undone

[vocal rivet]

But what good does it do?

This game lost balance forever ago

[compact osprey]

Really hurts ankydact and makes thylac unable to kill

[vocal rivet]

This I can agree with

[vocal rivet]

PB terrorizes mid-low aviary

[silent phoenix]

All that needs to be done is make the attack buff come after the hit and revert the speed buff to prior.

[vocal rivet]

See here's the issue

[compact osprey]

They both cap out around there unless they're really high leveled

Strangely have never seen a pb in arena

[vocal rivet]

Rexy is really good because of it's roar, yes? If we nerf rexy, then Thylaconyx and Spinoceratops become the new rulers of the legendary META, so then we need to nerf them because they're too strong, but then PB rules the legendary meta, so we need to nerf it as well- it keeps going like this on and on

[vocal rivet]

What's your cup rating?

[compact osprey]

Been at 5800-6000 since the middle of last season

[vocal rivet]

Oh damn, that's probably why

[compact osprey]

Haven't gone below gyro in long time outside of resets

[vocal rivet]

I'm at 5006

[compact osprey]

Rexy is rare but not unseen where I am

[vocal rivet]

I've stopped doing PVP til I get Dscorp and Ref

[cloud sphinx]

I've just stopped except once a season

[compact osprey]

Wrong place to post that

[round dew]

If they were to nerf dominant roar, I could see them removing the additional turn of speed. I thought it was a bug at first but sometimes I see Rexy carry the extra speed throughout all turns before using the roar again. If it were only for the turn after using it you could probably do something but the fact it gets the speed increase both turns before roar can be used again is crazy

[compact osprey]

That's the way it was untill they "fixed" the roar in I think 2.22

[ebon lotus]

Not a big deal for me because rexy does to my tmet, compso and Draco

Sometimes Atro

When low it dies to my swap ins

[balmy coyote]

Nah man

[onyx spruce]

I feel like it would be okay if the speed and dmg boost where 1 turn instead of 2 making it not have full uptime

[onyx spruce]

Honestly tho rexy does kinda become irrelevant once you hit around 3-3.5k

[cloud sphinx]

The problem isn't with higher arenas but it's own rarity. You would never see something like ankyntrosaurus in anything above the legendary meta so why should rexy be able to beat the majority of uniques and probably apexes

It pretty much single handedly broke lower arenas due to high availability in events and the marketplace. Other new additions have certainly not helped but they all followed in rexy's footsteps and likely wouldn't have been so oppressive to other legendarys without it

[compact osprey]

Legendary scorp rex

[compact osprey]

It's not even that good anymore

[cloud sphinx]

In higher arenas yes but not lower ones. Did you even read what I said

And by lower I mean aviary and below

[compact osprey]

Irrelevant

[compact osprey]

I think it is

If the lower arenas are a total mess because nothing can stand up to rexy and pb until later on it's going to effect new people's experiences

[cloud sphinx]

Exactly. The majority of people are experiencing much more unbalanced battles after rexy's release

[compact osprey]

Not to mention it's not all about arena, rexy is pretty oppressive in legendary skill considering pb usually gets taken out by something else and rexy comes back

Epic panthera helps but she's still the best legendary

[vocal rivet]

Thor, Cerato, and Dracov too

[cloud sphinx]

True but rexy was the one who started it

[vocal rivet]

Not really

Thor was there from the start too

[cloud sphinx]

Thor is usually obtained by fusing which takes a lot more coin and DBA which lower levels lacked as well as being a higher rarity. When rexy was added it beat Thor in almost every way while being easier to get

People can get rexy do easily now and climb so much quicker than before it was added

[vocal rivet]

They gave it out for free in the pass

[round dew]

I still see a few Rexy in Library

[nocturne compass]

Ye in the first ever season pass

[cloud sphinx]

That still required a lot more effort than just darting rexy from events or the wild. They also gave out much more rexy DNA in passes, plus you can't unlock a unique from passes anymore for free

[onyx spruce]

Fair but still it’s only 1 every couple matches and in aviary it’s only tmet or if you do see a rexy it’s lvl 30

[nocturne compass]

Fax

[simple inlet]

Only cause powercreep

[worldly portal]

Honestly if they just change rexy roar to work like tmet roar. I think it would solve the issue

[compact osprey]

That would be just fine

Rexy would still be dangerous but she doesn't have the ability to become the third fastest thing in the game for 2 turns and buff her attack all before hitting with an impact that has a decent shot at 1 hit killing several creatures or taking off over 90% health

[compact osprey]

3rd fastest is a stretch, but ye.. Still not hard to counter in any format

[cloud sphinx]

At 133 speed the only things that beat it are microraptor and segnoraptor if I am not mistaken

[compact osprey]

That's what I meant, in skill she's only beat by those 2

[compact osprey]

Also I totally agree rexy has been past her prime in arena for a while but she's not that easy to handle in legendary if they have spino, dimo, or even ankydact to back it up

[compact osprey]

So you're saying after using an attack it's 4th fastest? So swap into it with a flock out first, or instant cunning

[pearl hornet]

Here's the thing: It's Legendary adv and "skill" tourneys that revolve around Rexy setups. Oh you lead PB vs a Rexy or send out PB vs a set up one or in general? 50/50-centered blytheae will go Double Strike on your Spino swap making it another 50/50 vs Spinocera. Or on Dimodac, if they Double Strike, you die unless you swoop and they will still have EH up. If they do EH, oop! Swoop back into rexy or brace wound swap to one of the 5000 swap in damagers in legendary format since they don't get EH back up until when you swap. Omegas like CG (walls anyway) and Fukui (for leads vs Rexy) are the ONLY reason this RK/team waller in legendary can be seen as bad in that. Oh and, I tried using Sr1 for fun in one of these. It's so easy to swap PB on it t1 after you swap it in lol if you even get an opportunity to swap it in, without them just saving it and bringing it back in, which is what it does best. Counter-attackers also abuse the fact it and so many other things have 2 attack dodges, and get a 3rd attack in, whether it be a swap-in or just a straight up attack the turn after you swap, if they attack. The thing never dodges either lol, so it's dependent on those as well. Eremo, like PB (except not every turn being a 50/50 like with PB) gets t1 Spino'd, Dimo'd, Pulm'd or Thylac'd faster than you witness the most skilled play you can make in a legendary format. Take a guess what that is. Been walled by this thing so many times in legendary tourneys, which I figure everyone else would base this off right? Not arena or in unique tourneys since it's one of those creatures that obviously does way worse in arena due to OE-counter attack swapper abuse and just getting countered easier in general. 🗿

[mental plaza]

me when nomingia

[marsh furnace]

Get a cunning creature

[pearl hornet]

Get spino'd or Dimo'd or PB swapped on t1 (Or play around the "cunnings" in other ways and just set Rexy back up as well, GG)

[mental plaza]

me when dodge

🤯🤯

[mortal pollen]

Nerf dominant roar by removing speed increase

[random basalt]

Skill issue

Just use a dino with nullify, dodge or cloak

Even speed increase will do

[pearl hornet]

🆗

[fervent ledge]

Yes

Doesnt make sense how rexy can just become faster than velociraptor

No need to entirely remove the speed boost but at least decrease it

So that its realistic

[coarse quiver]

at least as it was before, before it was just 1 turn so only the next turn have boost speed

[spare phoenix]

Panthera?

[old sage]

Something that people really need to take into account about Dominant Roar is that there are a lot of Raid strats that really depend on Rexy buffing the team's speed and attack, and nerfing them could really negatively affect them

[fervent ledge]

Good thought

But maybe other creatures can start being used more if that happens

[magic grotto]

There’s a new roar move coming

[stiff coral]

I dont understand ur problem... yh it is strong... and? They are way more OP dinos just learn to counter it bud

[tropic cargo]

Just get a distracting creature lol

no need to whine about a single legendary move that has so many counters

[stiff coral]

Exacly