more gen 3s

[last mica]

Since their Update from two years ago we never saw another gen 3 beides scorpios. This family definently needs more members no matter if they're hybrids or non hybrids

[pliant widget]

I don't think there should be more gen 3s as there are plenty of Dino's not implemented yet instead of slightly different versions of the same dino

[grand galleon]

I'd rather just have a new species unless it's a different model

Why have diplocaulus gen 3 when we can have icthyostega?

[steel sleet]

I personally think we need a couple more but I also say reserve it for movie hybrids (scorp indos and mabie spinosino)

I am Def in the minority and I understand the reason I just fully hate that they gave us 1 then forgot about it

[grand galleon]

They should have just made gen 2 the unique and fused it from gen 1

[steel sleet]

Ya g1 and g3 have pretty much identical moveset iirc so itd make sense

But since it exists id hate it to be truly alone at least 1 more

[grand galleon]

Would probably just be indom and indoraptor if they ever do more

[steel sleet]

Precisely what I think it should be (mabie spinosino)

The movie hybrids

[grand galleon]

They don't need more attention

[steel sleet]

Only a couple more

[grand galleon]

There's already more indom hybrids than elephants and amphibians combined

[steel sleet]

It really sucks only 1 gen 3 exists

[last mica]

You can never be sure . They can always give gen 3s to new animals/hybrids as well

Gen 3s also do have something different unlike gen 2s wich are basically just alt skins

[grand galleon]

In my opinion they're just not original, we could have had icthyovenator, guanlong, polacanthus, chasmosaurus, gigantophis, and more instead of gen 2s

[steel sleet]

I agree BUT eather remover scorp g3 or add at least a few new gen 3 is all I want

[grand galleon]

I feel like scorp is another instance of them introducing a new idea and never expanding on it

[steel sleet]

Thats my problem here

[last mica]

Wich is odd because even if they would just focus on canon dinosaurs that field could be expanded a lot

[grand galleon]

There's really only room for 2 more gen 3s though

[steel sleet]

I'd be ok if its only indo and indom spinoceratops would be a good one too

[grand galleon]

We don't need 2 more spinoceratops just because they showed up in a show

Unless that's the only way to get them to add another rare hybrid but I feel like they'd go unique and apex or at least epic and unique

[steel sleet]

Indom and spinosino is perfect to make g2 epic and g3 unique most likely needing a couple rarrs to make them

Honestly I see it fitting the theme if they go that way

[grand galleon]

I'd only take indom gen 3 if it's rare

[steel sleet]

Indo g3 likely will be apex

[grand galleon]

They've got tarbo and deinonychus so why not

[steel sleet]

I'd be ok with it, as long as g3 isn't a 1 dino only thing any g3 is ok for me

[last mica]

Not at all . And even if they would add new Canon Versions they could more species as gen 3s like the canon monolophosaurus or dimetrodon

[grand galleon]

I still think that's a worse idea than just adding original hybrids and creatures

There's no reason to copy and paste stuff when skins are an underused and unfortunately monetized feature

[pliant widget]

that would need trex gen 3 to be implemented but more rares are definitely a good idea

[steel sleet]

It can be made out of a different theripod

[pliant widget]

There aren't many commons, which one would it be?

[steel sleet]

Tarbo allo (they said Tarboro and deinonycus)

[pliant widget]

i hadnt really thought about them. its a great idea then

[steel sleet]

Could also add a new common

[pliant widget]

tarbo is a close relative of rex so isn't neccacary to add more for the hybrid but there are a limmeted number of commons

[steel sleet]

Ya thats why I say adding new commons would work too

[quasi latch]

Let's be real here the only reason we have scorpios gen 3 is because they had to make use of the scorpios rig for all their money's worth. Even they realized they can't pull a purrulyth/purrutaurus on it with how absurd the entire rig/animations are

[steel sleet]

Huge problem you see all it needs is to not exist on 1 creature only

Add a couple more and I'll never bring up add a gen 3 again

[quasi latch]

Except like others said we need new species and even gen2s more than gen3s

I mean rexy is technically t rex gen 3. Then we have 5 velociraptors, and also beta aswell 4 atrocis

Even bumpy is technically anky g3

[steel sleet]

Yes I understand that but gen 3 only has 1 dino they could easily make a indominus gen 3 and a indoraptor gen 3 and call it a day and those like me who just don't want it to be exclusive won't need to worry anymore

[quasi latch]

For the love of stegod we do not need another indominus/indo clone

[steel sleet]

My only wish is for it not to be exclusive

[steel sleet]

Need probably not would I love it, yes

But honestly any gen 3s are fine it just sounds right to make it movie hybrids

[quasi latch]

Nemys is already a stretch. Its a miracle alanky managed to made it after losing to indot bc of bias

[steel sleet]

They definitely should have made a better looking nemys

Currently we need a rare for every hybrid type so a rare indom would be cool

[quasi latch]

This is honestly why they should revamp skins

[quasi latch]

We already have. It's called suchotator and it's up with purrolyth in the rare meta

[steel sleet]

I think they should do.that too but removing g2 and g3 now would be heavily bad and all I want is for g3 to not be exclusive

[steel sleet]

Suchotator isn't a indominus

[quasi latch]

Purrolyth isn't an indoraptor

[steel sleet]

Never said it was

[quasi latch]

But you already have these 2 rigs in rare so why reuse it? If anything an actual indoraptor apex is probably the last logical stretch

[steel sleet]

We have indom g2 for epic indo g2 and indom for legendary indot erlidom and indoraptor for unique indonymys and indolycan for apex all we need is rare

[steel sleet]

I'd like a indoraptor apex too

[quasi latch]

Lycan is a wolf. Technically

[steel sleet]

Its made with indo g2

[quasi latch]

Im talking rigs and animations

[steel sleet]

I'm talking components

[quasi latch]

Components dont matter when nundasuchus feeds 7 stuff and panda and ovi g2 just exist

[steel sleet]

Panda and ovi and stuff like that needs a hybrid

Also I'm probably the only one but I want the atricoraptor with nundasuches to get a apex

The name is evading me atm

[quasi latch]

Pyrorixis is already a stretch needing 5 different dinos

[steel sleet]

I like it tbh

[quasi latch]

It does not need a hybrid the same way we do not need another indom/indo reskin

[steel sleet]

We don't need anything really id just love them

[quasi latch]

Game design wise that's just bad

I guess you can reuse the animations. But having another hybrid centered around those 2 gives me fatigue

[steel sleet]

Honestly there's a charm to seeing your nunda and eino you get from the beginning follow you through the rarity (the hybrids aren't too bad as well)

[steel sleet]

As long as there's more gen 3s I'm happy. I may want more indoms but I definitely can live without it, it does really trouble me that g3 is exclusively scorp though

[quasi latch]

Pyrosuchus has 0 reason to exist though. Couldve honestly went straight to pyrorixis and give pyro g2 another hybrid

[steel sleet]

That makes sense but tbh its a step for the watching them go through the raritys

[quasi latch]

There are lots of ocd inducing decisions rn, but imo g3s are up there with stuff that shldve never happen like compsocaulus being a 2 part unique

[steel sleet]

Honestly I'm with you g3 shouldn't of happen but since it did why make it exclusive after 2 years

Tbf its probably the one thing they listen to the community for seeing how people hated it but doesn't stop it from bothering me

[quasi latch]

Because they realized it was a terrible idea? Idk just bad game design in general

[steel sleet]

Just 1 or 2 more wouldn't have hurt though instead its now a feature that exists but only onec

[quasi latch]

This isn't even something designed to be a cash grab and it just stands out as logically bad

They really just suck even back then lol

[steel sleet]

Ya I think they shouldn't exist

But unfortunately it bothers me that it exists once

Not like there's anything I can do about it though

[quasi latch]

It clearly wasnt. They even pulled a rat's butt and taught they could get away with the model originally not having the horns

[steel sleet]

Scorp g3?

[quasi latch]

Plus i still have no idea why the scorps are the only things ig that the camera pans to the model's insides

[quasi latch]

Yea

[steel sleet]

I didn't realize they had anything horn like lol

[quasi latch]

Its part gorgo. The gen 3 model originally being a completely recolored scorp created backlash

[steel sleet]

I probably never noticed it changed lol 😆

[quasi latch]

Not to mention theyre originally called scorpiUs ig until it was corrected to scorpiOs, although that probably was more of a thing with universal licenscing than ludia

[steel sleet]

Man at least the other gen 2s where not exact copys lol 😆

[steel sleet]

Ya that was wierd

[quasi latch]

Almost all the gen 2s are color/pallete swaps though

[steel sleet]

Scorpius makes more sense imo

[steel sleet]

Not only there is usually little things

One question wheres velociraptor g2 lol 😆

[quasi latch]

Only the recent movie g2s actually have different models

[steel sleet]

Look at indom g2 and 1

[quasi latch]

And the big rock allo

[steel sleet]

Trex is more minor but its not exactly same

[quasi latch]

Considering the base raptor is based on jp1, you have a raptor squad, and there are 4 more veloci variants from the og trilogy, probably not

[steel sleet]

I'm talking about the one from jwtg

[quasi latch]

No idea

[steel sleet]

They like to share assets

I know this was used to make the indom and indog2 in jwtg before they decided on adding the movie raptor squad but still

[quasi latch]

If im aware blue is the only character raptor in jwtg

[steel sleet]

Only playable one

[quasi latch]

I guess beta technically doesnt count

[steel sleet]

Oh ya also beta

[quasi latch]

Because size and noticable model changes

You know what i get ocd from?

[steel sleet]

Ya and the death animation is switched to the cower

What

[quasi latch]

The fact we don't have a normal atrociraptor and probably will never

[steel sleet]

We also have a segnoraptor but no segnosaurus

[quasi latch]

Lmao one of the stupidest things in this game's history

Lets make a dino whose name means "slow thief" into the 2nd fastest thing ig

Seriously where the hell did the segno come from

Did i miss something in paleo? Is segno debated to be some juvi theri now?

[steel sleet]

Also I've heard we are at the point that there's more apexes then rares, I love apexes but that Definitely sucks

[quasi latch]

We need more rares

[steel sleet]

Its a genus of therizin

[quasi latch]

Ik but did they really need to name it that if it's a separate species irl

[steel sleet]

You know its funny that we gotten used to hybrids just using the 2 components for name but until indoraptor (and Idr if spinosino was ever called anything) none of the movie ones where like that

[quasi latch]

I cant remember where i read it but even indominus is wrong in terms of wording

It's supposed to be indomitus or something like that

[steel sleet]

Really?

[quasi latch]

Yeah i think it has to do with something with translating ancient latin

But apparently if you're a historian with knowledge about dead languages and translating indominus would just sound wrong

[steel sleet]

Ah so it was changed

[quasi latch]

Idk i guess they have it explained in the movie as something "scary and easy to pronounce"

[steel sleet]

I just double checked pronunciation in the movie lol 😆

[quasi latch]

I mean it is fiction after all so i guess names are the least of concerns

[steel sleet]

Ya true

[quasi latch]

Plus its nothing to the stupidity of naming a therizinosaurus hybrid with segno

[steel sleet]

Tbh they could easily have named any discovered theripod indominus rex too

My thing is thinking of cromeospinus then realizing that it all of a sudden makes the ones here feel lazy

[quasi latch]

Tbf though spinoceratops sounds better on the tongue than sinospino

[steel sleet]

Tbh for me spinosino rings better then spinoceratops (even though all it does is adds a p to sinoceratops)

Hmm sinospino is Definitely worse though

[quasi latch]

Imo the chances of in irl finding a spinosaur in china is probably more likely than finding a spinosaur with a properly pronounced nose horn

[steel sleet]

You know I'm surprised no ne discovered dinos was named with a jwa hybrid name inspiration we have animals named after pokemon lol 😆

[quasi latch]

Irritator is already a stretch and now we have debates on whether it opened its jaw like a hypo spino/shin godzilla lmao

[steel sleet]

Tbh I think dino debates will happen forever as there's no way to see one fully

[quasi latch]

Well we're in the minority tbh. If we were that popular we'd have more eyes rolling on the shop prices than we do now lol

[quasi latch]

Spinofaarus vulgaris

[steel sleet]

Unless they go full jurassic park mode but let's hope that doesn't happen

[quasi latch]

Now THAT is something they TOTALLY should add

[steel sleet]

I slipped a a in there i mean any jurassic world hybrid

[quasi latch]

We have 6 movies, 2 books and a tv show on why that is the worst idea in the long sad history of bad ideas

[steel sleet]

Finally someone else understands lol 😆

[quasi latch]

As much as things go over the top stupid, we have actual people stupid enough as the shady people in fallen kingdom and dominion irl, so for hammond's sake please don't

[steel sleet]

Even my dad thinks it'd work out better (he looks at what caused them in the movies and makes fixes for them)

[quasi latch]

For all i care if this actually happens, we'd have other absurd stuff like dino peta and "dinosaurs are animatronics" and such

[steel sleet]

I mean I heard something recently that a human doesn't give enough energy and costs them too much energy to hunt for them to care but idk

[steel sleet]

Ya there's already that birds are drones thing I was surprised to hear

[steel sleet]

Though said thing was referring to a trex. A raptor probably wouldn't think twice

[quasi latch]

Ressurecting dinos that need higher oxygen content is a bad idea in the 1st place

[steel sleet]

Thats also a thing I heard, the conditions back then would make it where the dinos wouldn't make it nowadays

Mainly how its not as warm anymore and the oxygen count is different

[quasi latch]

Not to mention you can expect an evironment more alien than anything when grass only existed around 10,000 years

[grand galleon]

Grass actually got its start in the late cretaceous although ferns would have been much more dominant back then

[quasi latch]

Still grass would've been much more different than it is today considering thats 60+ million years

[grand galleon]

It definitely would be and most of the dinosaurs people know of either wouldn't have eaten because they had different diets or only had it as a minor part of their diet

[grizzled panther]

I personally think GEN 2s and 3s are a great idea but were implemented wrong. It’s not intuitive that indom mk2 is worse than indom mk1. It should’ve been that GEN 2s were either alt mivesets and colors-e.g. epic bary gen 2-or higher rarity and better than their gen 1 version. I also think that they, along with Lux variants, are better than new species because at a certain point it’s “do I want this medium dromeosaur or that medium dromeosaur or that slightly different dromeosaur”
GEN 2s also allow more use for certain things you want like Scorpios Rex or indom

[grand galleon]

It depends really, you need a balance

For example I would much rather have Austroraptor than velo gen 10

It really comes down to personal preference though since aside from the movie dinos any new species can do the same thing as a gen 2 can

[grizzled panther]

Yeah
No more velociraptors or atrociraptors because they’re basically the same and we have 99,000,000 of them

[grand galleon]

Gen 3's of nonhybrids seem a little far to me but some more gen 2s would be ok

Also uh let's never have an indom or indoraptor gen 3 cause I guarantee you they'll be made of Rexy and dominate the meta

[grizzled panther]

But you also understand how a lot of species are really really similar to eachother and at a certain point there’s not much you can do to make them unique without doing JP velociraptor level stuff to it

[grand galleon]

Or yutyrannus before we get the eaties or junior

Fair but there's still a pretty wide amount of animals you can add

[grand galleon]

They're more unique than literal recolors

The gen 2s can have some cool lore

Like Rex being a failed indom or erliko a failed pho

[grizzled panther]

My point was that a lot of creatures effectively are literal recolors of eachother
Not even the 1000 velociraptors but like guanlong, monolophosaurus, and proceratosaurus are all really similar

[grand galleon]

That's true but they've still got a lot more differences than a gen 2 would

Eventually yeah you start getting to a point but like I said there's a lot of animals to go through before that

That's often due to animation constraints, deinocheirus is a very unique animal but just looks like a hunchback erlik

[grizzled panther]

I agree with this

[grizzled panther]

Yes weird duck is amazing

[grand galleon]

Imagine throwing atrocod or rixis in as the second raptor component

[quasi latch]

The real nail on the head is why does styraco immediately get a lux variant instead of a normal one especially since its non canon

I mean cerato and kitty look normal appearance wise until you see the stats so why is a random ceratopsian suddenly covered in whatever algae that glows? Most of the glowing dinos we have rn are apexes which is fine, making everything a lux imo is again overdoing stuff making glowing dinos just another thing because

[distant whale]

I feel like we only should have gen 2s if they gen 1 version already has 3 hybrids, so in my opinion the gen 1 and gen 2 should both have 3 hybrids before getting a gen 3. I understand why Scorpius got it but for the other dinos that is my option on the matter

[steel sleet]

I feel people would say its overused by that point, honestly I'm ok if gen 3 didn't exist i just say that because it does, please give a few more

[quasi latch]

Honestly they couldve just made scorpios g3 something like gorgoscorpios from the start

[steel sleet]

Yes they could have, then I wouldn't have a care in the world if a gen 3 existed and I think noone would miss it,

[grand galleon]

In my opinion, if they're gonna add a new gen it should have a different model, not just a different colour

And it should actually have a purpose, like a Carnotaurus gen 2 being a component for carnoraptor and having a design like in the hammond collection ( which canonically lived in Sorna with 2 individuals that might have been able to camouflage like in the novel)

And another thing that they could do is change the models for the irritator and monolophosaurus to make them resemble different versions of these animals and not a duplicate

There are endless species of creatures that we have in game, JW ones and paleontologically accurate ones

[quasi latch]

I thought that was fake

The non canon dinos are cool, but weird that theyd release a canon dino but basing its design on something soft canon

[icy oxide]

Gen. 3 isn’t really even a Gen 3’ it would be its own hybrid. It uses itself as a component. It’s technically no different than any other unique so instead of gen 3 they should have gave it its own name.

They did mention we’d have more gen 2 of hybrids and stuff.

They also said we’d get more easy to make legendary like monolometredon and dracoceratops and we never got them.

[quasi latch]

Again shouldve been gorgoscorpios or smth from the start