I understand its exclusive but the power and utility this thing has is better than some apex creatures. It's almost unkillable and has an absurd basic strike. Please nerf this thing. And boosts aside it destroys everything in tournaments except maybe dsungascorp
#Nerf compsoraptor it's been too long
peak herald
Compsoraptor is barely viable in tournaments. And it's in a worse position in arena.
chilly island
See what I mean
I will admit it's not #1 in arena but you can make a very strong case for top 10
And it's definitely top 8 for unique tourneys
jagged estuary
2 very good counters for compso raptor. Gemdeus, but if you don’t have that the scorpions can destroy it it’s not even funny. I had my level 30, fully boosted, compsoraptor get taken down by unique scorpion at level 22 with minimal boosts
chilly island
How does that make it balanced though
jagged estuary
Since when has anything been “balanced” in this game
chilly island
Compsor definitely isn't the number 1 issue but it's pretty high on the list
jagged estuary
The formula for this game is to make something OP to get the whales to invest and feel good about themselves, and then introduce something down the line to take out said OP creature, rinse and repeat
chilly island
I don't see a good reason to support it though
timber ridge
Can we get rid of its chalkboard screeching at least?
jagged estuary
I don't see a good reason to support it though
Exactly, we shouldn’t. But ludia only cares what the whales think, and they love throwing money to be the best in a mobile game
chilly island
Can we get rid of its chalkboard screeching at least?
That's honestly a fair point, there have been at least 3 posts for gem, compsor, indon, dilorach, ect and while they do need nerfs it should be 1 post each
peak herald
And it's definitely top 8 for unique tourneys
Top 8 isn't saying much of a way of needing nerf. When it's so far behind the rest of the company. It's viable, sure. Meta? Not a chance. I don't think anything that's just viable deserves a nerf.
peak herald
Or your forced to use it because there's nothing better.
chilly island
Also this is why powercreep exists
peak herald
Doesn't make it nerf worthy.
chilly island
Was compsor OP at any point?
peak herald
Yes, this isn't 6 months ago though
chilly island
Ok and it never received a nerf, correct?
peak herald
Acrocanthrops was OP with its same kit. Your going to say it needs nerfed?
peak herald
When it was top 3 in arena? Lol
chilly island
Yes, this isn't 6 months ago though
Compso was top tier right up until dscorp came in
peak herald
It dominated apex and uniques with its ability to back to back rampages and hit through armor
peak herald
This was also last year at some point. But again I don't think things that are viable deserve a nerf. When there's stuff that are meta defining around.
chilly island
Obviously those guys need it first, no questions there
The difference here is canthops is no longer viable in any way
But what do we do if they ever actually do nerf them?
peak herald
More stun bleed viable creature will keep it from ever being g busted
chilly island
They'll just be busted themselves though
peak herald
Only if they make them busted.
chilly island
The literal only reason comspor isn't busted is because we have stuff 10x worse
peak herald
You dont have to have a busted creature to create counters.
chilly island
Besides I think the idea of nerfing just one creature does nothing now since the gap is always ready to be filled, you'd need to nerf at least the top 20 to make lasting change
chilly island
Only if they make them busted.
Answer me this. How are they supposed to be viable in the overall arena if they aren't?
peak herald
You can easily make viable creatures without being busted. It's really not that hard. Ludia just doesnt know how
chilly island
No one used dilophoboa to balance out rexy from 2.15-2.19 despite it being a non busted counter
Pulmonoscorpios destroys compsoraptor, but you are going to have a difficult, albeit not totally impossible time running it past estate
chilly island
You can easily make viable creatures without being busted. It's really not that ...
So you're telling me a dino with like 4500/1200/110 as a stat spread is gonna be a good pick when there are 20 things that utterly destroy it?
Your logic works if there's only 4 or 5 OP dinos but we have an entire meta made entirely around them and no one else
chilly island
You can easily make viable creatures without being busted. It's really not that ...
It depends on the definition of busted, some people think only the top 5 are busted while others think scorp gen 3 is the first busted creature
peak herald
Depends on moveset. Stats is one thing. Total package is another. I can turn that 4500 1200 110 creature into a viable but not busted creature right now that would counter compso. You know how easy it would be to make scorp g3 viable again?
chilly island
You'd have to make it busted
peak herald
You wouldn't. But okay lil
chilly island
So what would you do then?
How can it compete with Geminideus, Indonemys, kyrie, etc and not be miles above the majority
Scorp's main gimmick barely works anymore and was stolen by the scorpions who do it far better
peak herald
It has a basic moveset. Just make it slightly none basic. Fierce strike? Let's turn it i to a disarming cautious strike. Cunning rampage? Let's turn it into fierce cunning rampage. Give it an on escape ability as well. Give it the ability for its dodge to last longer. See how it turns out. Viable yet? No? Continue to improve slightly. Yes? Stay put
low ledge
It has to be somewhat similar to it’s ingredients?
peak herald
It's really not hard to balance creatures out. It's all about slow improvements or nerfs
chilly island
You mean the things you're saying we shouldn't do?
A nerf is exactly what's being asked for here
I'll reiterate what I said before, compsoraptor is definitely not the creature in need of a nerf the most
There's a decent amount that are stronger, but eventually you're gonna need to take care of it too
peak herald
I slightly buffed a creature that would and does counter it
chilly island
The problem is that buff can only go so far
peak herald
And thats when you nerf what needs to be nerfed. I don't think compso is one
chilly island
Right now it's not
Buffing something specifically to counter an already fading creature is going to do nothing long term
peak herald
Atrococo, gemgod, aeno , kyrie , dsunga to name a few
peak herald
Buffing something specifically to counter an already fading creature is going to...
You missed the entire point.
chilly island
And when they get nerfed who stops compsor? It's going to need one too
That's what I've been saying
Eventually you're just going to end up with comspor back on top
peak herald
You think compso would reign unstoppable if those creatures got slight nerfs? Fat chsnce lol
chilly island
Oh you just mean slight nerfs, like -50 attack
peak herald
No thats too small
chilly island
Not for ludia
peak herald
True lol
Asking for a compso nerf is literally asking it to become a tryko right now.
chilly island
That's too major of a nerf
peak herald
It's already barely viable
chilly island
Ok now my second point is, what about the majority of uniques/Apexes? Compsoraptor is balanced for the late meta but think about it in comparison to a good 70% of the other uniques
peak herald
A netf would juat make it not viable lol
chilly island
It's already barely viable
Compared to tryko which would barely hold up against legendaries?
peak herald
Those uniques need a buff.
chilly island
My issue with that is
A. It takes way more time
B. It makes everything incessantly annoying and complicated
peak herald
Slowly nerf what needs. And slowly buff what needs. And keep the viable creatures untouched
chilly island
Would you rather buff 30 dinos or nerf 15?
peak herald
I rather buff 15 nerf 15
chilly island
And leave 15 in the dust
peak herald
And leave the 15 that are viable stayed put
chilly island
The 15 buffed shoot to the top, 15 nerfed settle in the middle, and the unchanged ones stay in the bottom where nobody uses them
peak herald
Why do the 15 buff have to shoot to the top? You don't have to kyrie buff everything
Look at dio
Is it kyrie? Or is it barely viable at best
chilly island
Ok then they're just gonna mingle at the top and still leave 15 behind
peak herald
What? Lol
Nerf the tip 15 in degree to their strength in the meta. Keep the middle 15 the same. And buff the bottom 15 in degree to the viable
chilly island
Ok so if I buff Grypolyth, nerf dscorp, and leave tuoramoloch unchanged, what's going to happen there?
peak herald
I was just going with your numbers 😂
cold frost
As much as I would agree with this, asking for a singular nerf for something that isn't the most problematic creature at the moment wouldn't really do much. Compso gets nerfed, Dsungascorp, Geminideus, Atroc, Kyrie, etc are left unchanged, there's not much to gain out of it.
chilly island
Toura is fine staying as a raid unique, not sure how to make it pvp viable without removing its raid niche