buff old creatures and make the new ones balanced

[little burrow]

Do I really need to give an explanation?

[twin knot]

We need an update that completely rebalances the game, that doesn’t leave 90% of the games creatures to be utter garbage

[tardy wave]

We need something like 2.0 where they change everything, or at least try since a decrease in competence and increase in total creatures might make that impossible

[lucid tapir]

Our last hope is 3.0. If they don’t do SOMETHING by then, the game will be dead before 4.0

[tardy wave]

I'm not even sure if a 3.0 will ever come, only thing I can think of that warrants it is level 40s aside from an actual rebalance

[kind badger]

Eh, if they add aquatics, they’ll make that 3.0 I bet.

[tardy wave]

That's a big if considering the possibility that the game's player base and code could fall apart in an instant

[kind badger]

Look at all the unattended to errors and glitches… they don’t care how much they break the game, as long as they make money

[tardy wave]

I mean they couldn't even release a normal update without first locking out people for weeks and then breaking several other things while fixing it, aquatics could easily do far worse

[kind badger]

Oh, it most certainly will

That won’t stop them from selling a legendary mosasaurus for $200

[tardy wave]

Can't sell mosa if the game's down for a whole month

Then there's the huge amount of extra lag they could cause

[kind badger]

This is all assuming the game keeps running long enough for aquatics to be added

or a 3.0 to occur

[tardy wave]

I think there won't be another overhaul update and the game will just be run into the ground by the 2.30 era

[kind badger]

Yeah, most likely result honestly

[tardy wave]

Depending on exactly what they add it could go a little longer but I don't see this game having another 20 updates left in it

[keen bay]

If the game was balanced, who would buy those expensive offer from the store? Now it is all about the money, not the game

[tardy wave]

People would still buy stuff, they can just sell whatever they want

If the game was balanced a dio incubator would be just as valuable as an atrocod incubator if you don't have the components

[lucid tapir]

If everything is usable, they could sell literally anything and it would be bought by players in ALL stages of the game

[keen bay]

No, because players who has everything because they r playing for years have viable dinos from then. So nobody would need the New ones.

[tardy wave]

The new ones can still be good

There's also the new players that a balanced game wouldn't be so hostile towards

Once they start playing they'll have fun collecting stuff and battling and then a few of them might decide to spend money on the game rather than realizing they have to spend large amounts every update to keep up and getting pushed away

[lucid tapir]

Did you forget about new players? Plus they can still introduce new things in the same balanced tier and the wallet players would still spend their money on it

[tardy wave]

Alacranix is a perfect example of that

[keen bay]

Thats the point. The New dinos are the strongest. If you huy them you can easily be in the top. If you can choose from too many ppl wont buy. Basic economy

[tardy wave]

Then why did people buy alacranix when it's bad?

[keen bay]

I dont Say it is good. But this is the way to get the most money. Bad for the players

[lucid tapir]

People still buy Dasani, and that stuff is friggin garbage. Everyone likes different things. If you appeal for everyone, they’ll all purchase things

[keen bay]

Ppl wants to be the strongest. If you buy the top 3, that kills every old you will. But you wont buy 10 different. Only billionars. This game doesnt worth that. Worst Than EA

[tardy wave]

You said new stuff has to be the strongest to get people to buy it

[lucid tapir]

Back in the day, EVERYTHING was strong. People were in shores with rares. It was genuinely fun back then. Now, it’s just a paragraph reading fest where you press one button and beat 300 of the dinos in the game

[tardy wave]

It's better to keep a game running long term with smaller gain than milk it dry and kill it quickly

[lucid tapir]

Passive income

[tardy wave]

Rares really shouldn't be in shores though

That's the opposite extreme to what we have

[lucid tapir]

Thing is, they were balanced back then

Everything was counterable (until indo g2)

Even procerath had a weakness

[tardy wave]

Although that takes away from the effort of making a unique or apex when an epic, rare, or common is usable and far more versatile for tournaments

[keen bay]

Profit maximalization is now going on

[lucid tapir]

With apexes now, I do think rares should be weaker than pre 2.0, but uniques and legendaries shouldn’t be how they are. It’s either complete garbage, or delete everything else in the game. The latest unique that was actually balanced was troodoboa.

[lucid tapir]

Game deterioration is whats going on. At this rate, we won’t even have a 3.0

[tardy wave]

I think there should be balance among each rarity and they can fight the one above but not much farther, for example commons can hold their own against rares if you're skilled but won't make it against epics

[lucid tapir]

Yeah. I do think commons like glypto are perfect tho. Able to hold their own against nonhybrid epic raptors

[tardy wave]

Glypto can kill trebax though

[lucid tapir]

Then nerf it’s attack slightly

[tardy wave]

Or armor

[lucid tapir]

Would dropping to 900 do anything

[tardy wave]

No, trebax either needs a buff or has to survive 3 hits

[lucid tapir]

I see

So lower the armor to 30%?

[tardy wave]

That is actually just enough for trebax to kill it

[lucid tapir]

Ok cool

There, glypto is balanced

[tardy wave]

So I'm thinking for the way rarity power balance should be is commons being able to compete against rares with skill, and a common resilient being able to deal effectively with an epic cunning but being outclassed by better resilients and the stronger epic fierces it can't handle

[lucid tapir]

Absolutely agree

[tardy wave]

And the same thing would apply to all rarities so you could get away with running legendaries if you can out play uniques and work around apexes

[lucid tapir]

Yea

[keen bay]

Not only rarity matters. Glypto resilient trebax cunning. So dogs can kill cats. A chihuahua should kill a lion?

[lucid tapir]

We just spoke about glypto

We came to a good conclusion

[keen bay]

Nerf is always a good conclusion

[lucid tapir]

We did

Dropped armor by 10%. Trebax wins

[tardy wave]

I said the max a common should handle is epic cunnings, not apex

And said common would be ruined by fierces and outcompeted by resilients that are epic

Why use glypto just because it can kill cunnings when pelta or diplod are available

[keen bay]

Bears and other apex predstors cant harm a honey badger. So nerf badger. Lol. A resilient creature always counter cunnings. Trebax sucks. So like other old apexes. It is good sometimes a lower rrity counter biggers

[tardy wave]

If there was good balance trebax wouldn't suck and would beat glyptodon

[keen bay]

Btw, 1v1 doesnt matter. Team balance should be good