Abyss Encounters

[meager parrot]

Finally managed to kill lvl 19 normal. Flamel, ShaXing, Butcher, Salvation, Yazid.
Not going to try again though, got gray hair and nerve damage from this one 😂

[wicked yew]

I already lost too much of my soul and gave up XD I don't have a those units levelled anyway. Yazid will probably be next.

[high talon]

Still can't pass Entropy. 😦

[paper fossil]

You tried my solution?

[high talon]

I did. It failed because my Los was too weak to take the incoming damage. I subbed out Los for Frontline with his shield but he didn't do the trick either

[high talon]

Bosses:
Row/Hex notation: Top (T), Middle (M), or Bottom (B) row, hexes, from left to right, 1-4:

--Thermal Abyss--
(Hard 5-10)

1) **Gobsmacker**: Demolisher T1, Sentinel T2, Hermes T4, Hayyan M2, Vindicator M4

2) **Raniah Farid**: Hermes T1, Demolisher T4; Hayyan M1, Heliodor M2, Nayra M4

3) **Aether Kain**: Los T1, Sentinel T2, Demolisher T3, Heliodor M1, Hayyan B1

4) **Scorched Pest**: Demo T1, Hayyan T2, Heliodor T4, Xcellence B1, Yazid B4

5) **Ignis**: Nuqtu T1, Sentinel T2, Liberator T3, Judge M2, Voron B4

--Antimatter Abyss--
(Hard 10-15)

1) **Deadbeat**: Purifier T2, Demo T4 (120< spd), Cultivator M2, Hermes B1, Hayyan B4 (120< spd)

2) **Celeste Morrow**: Demolisher T1, Hayyan T4, Voron M4, Nuqtu B1, Hermes B4

3) **Seraph Nix**: Hayyan T4, Hermes M4, Demolisher B1, Heliodor B3, Cultivator B4

4) **Nizar Idris**: Vindicator T3, Demolisher M1, Hermes M3, Voron M4, Heliodor B3

5) **Entropy**: Meiying T3, Heliodor M3, Hermes M4, Los B3, Judge B4

--Chemical Abyss--
(Hard 10-15)

1) **Alexandrite Aziz**: Meiying T3; Heliodor M3, Hermes M4; Demolisher B3, Judge B4

2) **Roach Roaster**: Heliodor M1, Sentinel M2, Hermes M3; Demolisher B1, Hayyan B2

3) **Tamir Khesig**: Heliodor T1, Hermes T4; Hayyan M1, Sentinel M2, Meiying M3

4) **Kreyla Ganzorig**: Heliodor T3; Judge M1, Sentinel M2, Aegis M3, Hermes M4

5) **Corrodium**: Demolisher T2; Aegis M2, Hermes M3, Hayyan M4; Meiying B2

--Electric Abyss--
(Hard 15-20)

1) **Deacon Jones**: Demolisher T2, Sentinel T3, Hayyan M1, Aegis M2, Voron B2

2) **Leila Shaheen**: Heliodor B4, Aegis M4, Demolisher B1, Hermes T4, Meiying M1

3) **Sarnai Khar**: Voron T2, Demolisher M1, Aegis M2, Hermes M3, Heliodor M4

4) **Grace Whitmore**: Ruiner T2; Aegis M2, Sentinel M3, Judge M4; Hermes B2

5) **Capacitor**: Demolisher M2, Hayyan M3, Hermes M4,  Sentinel B2, Xcellence B3

[quaint bone]

@coarse sleet Curious if you have tried speed clearing any of the harvesters ? Like Ignis at depth 5 now ?

I am at steady 37 sec myself

[coarse sleet]

I've been super lazy in abyss. but good idea. I'll play around this month and get back to you

[wicked yew]

I can die to Ignis in about 37 seconds

[coarse sleet]

uhh idk whats considered speed by just checked my ignis clear. its 20 seconds

is that fast enough? 😛

okay ignis down to 12

[coarse sleet]

@quaint bone okay no more keys for the day. but here you go. 6second ignis clear

including an essentially... 1 shot from judge

[coarse sleet]

since you were asking @quaint bone all bosses on floors 1-10 in hard abyss are now cleared in less than 8s each

including harvesters

Entropy r1 4 second clear

[wicked yew]

The top one is Los, I still cant identify the rest after two months of playing 🙂

Hard 8 is kicking my butt right now

[coarse sleet]

this is an endgame setup so not helpful for first clears of a floor. but the units are los, sustainer, sentinel, panguan, judge.

[coarse sleet]

which boss is onfloor 8 this month?

[wicked yew]

Seraph Nix. I cant do enough damage and survive. I've spent a few hours on it now trying all sorts.

I dont have the units other people have used.

[coarse sleet]

send a picnof your hangar?

[wicked yew]

Level

[glad valve]

Try this maybe? Speed tuning Heliodor is crucial here.

[wicked yew]

I've probably already tried this but il give it another go later, cheers.

[vivid flame]

Thanks for sharing your notes, they've been handy but your solve for Entropy wasn't working for me, had to find another way.

[molten dawn]

Great piece from the Merchant at hard Abyss, depth 12

[quaint bone]

wow thats awesome, now how will it roll 😉

[coarse sleet]

goddaaaayum

[vivid flame]

Anyone got something for Alex Aziz? Why isn't Meiying ignoring the taunt?

[dark magnet]

All enemies look like they are stealthed in that picture, which would make Alex her first viable target

[vivid flame]

That doesn't make sense to me. If all are stealthed then she should be using normal targeting because they are all equally stealthy.

[vivid flame]

And nevermind on Aziz, just let the bombs do their magic lol. I was half way through the battle when I realized i didn't even put a 5th ship in 🤣

[molten dawn]

Could have been worse, could have been better 😆

[lean hinge]

Need some help against lvl 13 boss

[high talon]

That was my solve for Hard 13

Any solves for Corrodium this month?

[high talon]

Currently running (Top-Middle-Bottom, Left to Right): Demolisher T2, Aegis M2, Hermes M3, Heliodor M4, Meiying B2) for Corrodium. It is farmable. But soooooo slow.

[glad valve]

For some reason the boss looks stealthed but he is actually the only one not stealthed. So he gets targeted even Mey ignores Taunt.

[paper fossil]

This is a joke, right?

[broken haven]

Needs more Mei Ying...

[quaint bone]

Got past this yet ?

[paper fossil]

At work.
Try again when home.

[quaint bone]

spread the dmg from those meiyings

[paper fossil]

What does that mean?

[quaint bone]

Means you can have each lane take a hit from a meiying, spreading the dmg from them

[paper fossil]

I give up. My brain is not capable of this.

[frigid hollow]

Lol

Which floor is that?

[frigid hollow]

I can try to have a crack at it

[high talon]

I am trying to find it myself

What are you using for the frag battles?

[paper fossil]

It is Hard 15.

[high talon]

Ah, Hard 15 it is. I'm finishing the floors on the way up. At 12 now

[frigid hollow]

For now, I have a stalwart, Heli, butcher, yazid (that I think has no gear on, lol) and ruiner

[high talon]

All 6*?

[frigid hollow]

I'll go try beat that fragment in a bit. Was trying to get past this encounter

[frigid hollow]

I think so? Maybe only ruiner isn't

[high talon]

I'm currently running Warden, Yazid, Heli, Volk, and Ruiner. It is currently V-E-R-Y slow, but getting there, haha

[frigid hollow]

Watching madax one shot my attackers hurt

[high talon]

ouch, doesn't sound fun

still doing floor 12

I need to 6* some epics. I have Luxx I could get 6* r6 and Stalwart is same

Salvation is another one

[high talon]

Frag 15 is brutal

[frigid hollow]

I got down to just Sansi, but died in the end

[high talon]

Almost the same. Using Stalwart t2, Ruiner t4, Heli M2, Yazid B1, Flamel B2

[frigid hollow]

I'm using salv instead of heli

Maybe I should switch though, lol

I just feel like the mei in mid row hits too damn hard

One shots my flamel

[high talon]

Yeah, it's real rough

[frigid hollow]

Grr. I really don't want to go grab my good gear

Cause then it's a mess trying to put it all back

[high talon]

Yep. I just 6* my Stalwart. I was going to do that anyway, but I just pulled that forward a few days

Now my whole lineup is 6*s. Maybe I can get it over the hump

Those Meis sting though

[frigid hollow]

Die faster damit

Managed to get it done 🫡

There was a flamel in-between Heli and stalwart/ruiner btw😆

[high talon]

haha, I actually am doing the exact same pattern

(poor Flamel!)

Can't quite get her over the bar

[frigid hollow]

My Heli ended up dying in the end too, lol

[frigid hollow]

Anyone got some suggestions for this encounter?

If only I had meiying, lol

[high talon]

Yeah, most problems in life can be dealt with more Meiying

[frigid hollow]

Fragment battle in depth 15 proves that, yh

[high talon]

It proves something, haha

[high talon]

Beat it!

It was Flamel T1, Stalwart 3, Ruiner T4, Heliodor M2, Yazid B4

[lean hinge]

What do these codes mean? T1 3 T4 M2 B4 ?

[coarse sleet]

row and hex

top middle bottom row
1st 2nd 3rd 4th hex

for placement

[lean hinge]

Oh 👍

[quaint bone]

your lack of meiying is starting to worry me !

[paper fossil]

There is one Mei in the middle row and 2 in the bottom. How would you spread the damage?

[quaint bone]

I dont remember how I did this exactly but something like this. You cluster your def there, have the top lane free and place your 2 dps in the front on the bottom two lanes. The one being hit by voron should be covered by Heliodor

[paper fossil]

Ah. OK. I thought you meant to use all 3 lanes. 👍

[quaint bone]

forgot to paste the pic 😉

[frigid hollow]

I know right, I need mei in my life

And it sucks cause this encounter is right in front of the boss

So can't progress without beating it

[coarse sleet]

i thought fragment battles were all meant to be non-key encounters now? @quaint bone ?

[dark magnet]

that's not a fragment battle

[coarse sleet]

huh?

[dark magnet]

Epic is working on this

[coarse sleet]

maybe im looking at the wrong encounter.

OH

I thought the double mei fragment

[frigid hollow]

Oh no, this is on depth 17 or 18 I'm trying to beat, that fragment was on depth 15

But I feel like I need mei for this

Maybe I can try with nuqtu in the bottom at the back

Hmm

Hmm, but the butcher might just kill her in one round

[quaint bone]

Not if you put some def on your nuqtu and some support, like cultivator and or Aegis ?

[frigid hollow]

I've used both aegis and culti in my attempts so far... They still die by like round 4 or so (aegis and culti and Hermes)

Maybe I should use a tank in the mid lane solo to tank mei

And then focus my efforts on killing the bottom row first hmm

I'll have to try later when I'm on my break

[high talon]

Any luck? My Mei isn't saving the day

[frigid hollow]

Been a bit busy, haven't had the chance to try yet

What comp are you using?

[high talon]

Good news! I just beat it! Bad news. I used Meiying r3.

I did do a sacrifice play. I used this set-up and sacrificed my Sentinel and my Demolisher to knock out their entire back-field, then I had Meiying eat their tanks one at a time until I had the final Meiying on the court. The Hermes-Heliodor dyad kept going until the end, but it did get a little spicy in places.

Heliodor M1, Hermes M2, Sentinel M3, Demolisher M4, Meiying B2

There it is on another encounter

[high talon]

Notes for Misc Upper Abyss Encounters in Row/Hex shorthand (Top, Middle, Bottom; left-to-right 1-4), Part 1:

Against: Sha Xing T4; Voron M2, Shelter M3, Meiying M4; Sansi B2, Meiying B3, Meiying B4
Solve: Heliodor M1, Hermes M2, Sentinel M3, Demolisher M4; Meiying B2

Against: Sha Xing T3, Yarrow T4; Vindicator M2, Sha Xing M3, ??? M4; Iridium B1, Mangler B3
Solve: Heliodor T1; Aegis M1, Cultvator M2, Meiying M3; Hayyan B1

Against: Orel T1, Demolisher T4; Vindicator M2, Hermes M3, Sha Xing M4; Vindicator B2, Panguan B3, Judge B4
Solve: Meiying T2; Aegis M2, Hermes M3, Heliodor M4; Cultivator B2

Against: Orel T1, Demolisher T4; Vindicator M2, Hermes M3, Sha Xing M4; Vindicator B2, Panguan B3, Judge B4
Solve: Cultivator T2; Aegis M2, Hermes M3, Demolisher M4; Hayyan B2

Against: Orel T3, Meiying T4; Orel M2, Meiying M3, Meiying M4; Morao B2, Meiying B3, Yuvan B4
Solve: Heliodor T1, Demolisher T4; Aegis M1, Hermes M2; Hayyan B1

Against: Stalwart T4; Defiant M2, Demolisher M3, Aegis M4; Defiant B2, Shelter B3, Ravager B4
Solve: Demolisher T1, Sentinel T2, Los T3, Vindicator T4; Aegis M4

Against: Sansi T3, Los T4; Sansi M2, Hermes M3, Yuvan M4; Panon B2, Ruiner B3, Liberator B4
Solve: Demolisher T1, Aegis T2, Hermes T3, Voron T4; Heliodor M3

Against: Yuvan T4; Sansi M1, Heliodor M2, Meiying M3, Asphyxiator M4; Voron B1, Harvester B2, Ruiner B3
Solve: Sentinel T3, Demolisher T4; Aegis M1, Voron M2; Heliodor B1

Against: Defiant T1, Hayyan T2, Panguan T4; Panon M1, Frontline M4; Guardian B1, Hayyan B2, Frontline B4
Solve: Meiying T1, Sentinel T2, Aegis T3, Hermes T4; Heliodor M4

Against: Sansi T1, Valerian T2; Sansi M1, Morao M2, Cultivator M3, Asphyxiator M4; Sansi B3, Meiying B4
Solve: Ruiner M1, Sentinel M2, Aegis M3, Hermes M4; Heliodor B3

Continued...

[quaint bone]

close call !

[dark magnet]

have you been able to beat it?

[paper fossil]

No. I quit trying.
Need to level up more epics to get that.
Busy time in RL.

[dark magnet]

If it helps this is what i just did

[frigid hollow]

This was my solve, there was a flamel in the front of the middle row

[paper fossil]

Nice!
I'll level up Stalwart tomorrow and try again.
Thanks

[frigid hollow]

That died towards the end

[paper fossil]

I totally have to level up some of those epics to beat higher level fragments. Been relying on Heliodor, Ruiner, Butcher and Salvation until now.

[dark magnet]

Those are good epics tbh, but i can tell you that i use Warden, Flammel, Volk, and LUXX a lot on top of the ones you mentioned.

[paper fossil]

I just need to take them to 60. They lack the power in higher fragment battles at level 50.

[high talon]

you and your Luxx need to get a room already

[high talon]

Whoever designed this level is dead to me

https://tenor.com/view/dead-to-me-wednesday-youre-gif-11470642

Nevermind. Killed it, moving on

Seriously. Don't you guys ever run out of Meiying?

[frigid hollow]

Jeez

I need a meiying in my life damn

[high talon]

I am over Grace Whitmore, Hard 19

Anyone got a solve for her?

[paper fossil]

Try this.
Hayyan
Los - Sentinel - Demo
Ruiner

[high talon]

I need to speed tune it, but that is likely it

[frigid hollow]

Woo!

Man, one second you're slowly grinding away at the boss, your tank at full health, you looks away for 2 seconds and he's dead

[paper fossil]

That's why I love Demo!

[manic pike]

Still trying to beat the final Abyss boss on NORMAL...lol. Any suggestions there?

[high talon]

Capacitor? I just closed it out yesterday

I think that if you search the thread you might find some solutions

[frigid hollow]

Onto depth 19, nice. This is the furthest I've ever gotten in hard abyss

Ok, lesson learned... Don't look away from the battles madax likes to die when I'm not looking

[frigid hollow]

Sometimes judge will do what demo can't

Literally couldn't break a vindicator with Hermes healing them

Couldn't sub hacking for more attack on demo cause then vindicator would annihilate demo when resisted

[quaint bone]

I find Ruiner very useful against that cursed Vindicator. Has affinity over him and all

[frigid hollow]

Does he have a self healing ability? Or you focus on the inferno?

Speaking of ruiner...

This anemone is invincible lmao

I'll try ruiner here...

[quaint bone]

nope, but often healers around him in those abyss levels,

[frigid hollow]

Changed my mind

Oh...

[quaint bone]

hard one, Been solved, right

[frigid hollow]

Not nearly as difficult as I thought

Easy one, first try

Ok, onto depth 20

I'll continue later

[high talon]

Damnit, you beat Grace?!

[frigid hollow]

I've had one technique I always use for her

Super strong DPS to clear the adds (judge this time)

Valerian with the corrosion to kill

Super easy

Just have Val with high enough hacking and low damage

Kinda excited to get to the harvester at 20

Sustainer and xcellence getting ready to be unfrozen for the fight

But I'm also kinda worried, cause even at just depth 15, the electric harvester has stumped me before

But sustainer, xcellence, hayyan, grif and sentinel, is gonna be my starting lineup

We'll see how well I do from there

[high talon]

Interesting..I like it

[paper fossil]

I love bombs. When I'm the one using those.
Hate when have to face those.
😝

[high talon]

I'm stumped. I am having a god awful time figuring out how to win on Grace

[glad valve]

For me the key was to kill enemy Hayaan first

Other than that I use strategy outlined by Epic but used Xcellence and Wisteria

[high talon]

I can get her down to just her with, say, Demolisher and Ruiner, but I cannot kill her. It's either not enough dps or not enough healing

[frigid hollow]

Corrosion doesn't work?

Let me share my set up

I one shot sefuba, one shot butcher, then one shot pang, then 1 (or 2, can't remember) the madax, one shot the hayyan. Then judge killed himself for about 1/3 the boss hp, maybe a bit more

Then corrosion slowly proceeds to kill the boss

[frigid hollow]

Is it worth attempting to resist some of the debuffs in depth 20?

How much security would I need? 500?

Cause that's practically impossible to get, lol

[high talon]

I can't one shot any of them, haha...what's your speed on that Judge, does he go before or after Hayyan?

[frigid hollow]

No clue honestly

[frigid hollow]

They don't need to be one shot though, as long as you can tank for long enough for you to kill the attackers

[frigid hollow]

[paper fossil]

What makes NPC Hayyan heal itself when bombs inflicted by Ruiner go off?

[high talon]

Not sure. I saw that myself and I want it

[paper fossil]

Took some time but Ruiner got through. 😅

[frigid hollow]

Woo, success

[high talon]

Grace is a DIS-grace. I am over it. I can one-shot everything but now down to a stupid infinite loop with Madax and Hayyan

[frigid hollow]

Really? Damn

Maybe swap someone in for grif or sentinel?

[high talon]

Then my tank fails, and I am back to square one

[frigid hollow]

Damn

What's your setup?

[high talon]

I am using Anemone...it's still playing right now so I can't take a screenshot

Anemone T3, Judge M1, Aegis M3, Heliodor M4, Hermes B3

[frigid hollow]

Does your Hermes die?

[high talon]

No, he lives. At least on this setup he does

[frigid hollow]

Is heliodor mandatory?

[high talon]

Judge has 21k attack, 100% crit (maybe a bit less, 97%) but only about 110% crit damage

I would think so, as he can heal panguan's bombs

[frigid hollow]

Hmm

Is your aegis R2?

[high talon]

The only thing I can think of is to move the whole formation back, put Judge up front on the bottom and try to one shot Panguan

yep, R2

It might be a gearing issue, but I have pretty decent gear

[frigid hollow]

Hmm. Cause really, after you take care of the 3 attackers, the only threateft is madax, and he shouldn't hit too hard until you kill him

What I mean is, at that point you don't need as much tanks

If you can get past that hurdle, even if you lose most of your tanks, you should be fine

If you're already 1 shotting sefuba, I think you could do without heliodor

[high talon]

I tried to sweep the field for the attackers, using Meiying, Los, and...I forget...Demolisher...but couldn't quite get there

[frigid hollow]

Do you have grif?

[high talon]

The problem is that I cannot then one-shot Panguan. She goes stealth and then I have to play with her

no grif 😦

[frigid hollow]

Damn

[frigid hollow]

She doesn't go stealth until she gets hit

So try not to hit her till it's her turn

By round 3 she should die

[frigid hollow]

Sentinel?

Lemme hop in game and try something

[high talon]

Sentinel R2

[frigid hollow]

Would this work for you?

[high talon]

let's see

[frigid hollow]

Lmao

[high talon]

Hermes dies without Heliodor

[frigid hollow]

I almost one shot her with judge

Just tried my method and it works

[frigid hollow]

Who kills him?

[high talon]

Panguan, I think

[frigid hollow]

Maybe, move anemone to either behind or Infront Hermes

Split the damage between them?

But then that'd have pang be hit. Hmm

Move aegis then

Then see if anemone can survive madax till he dies

[high talon]

Oh, sheeeit, hold on

wait, is fire at an affinity disadvantage....

FML

[frigid hollow]

Oh yh...

Do you have any other corrosion units?

[high talon]

Wisteria, Valerian

[frigid hollow]

Use valerian then

[high talon]

she'll get beat by Panguan

yep

[frigid hollow]

Oh yh, you'd have to move her to where anemone usually is

What's the hp on your Hermes?

And what round does he die?

[high talon]

nearly 80k, 7800 def

he's got my best gear

[frigid hollow]

Mine has 77k hp, 5.5k def

And your aegis?

[high talon]

neglible crit rate though

75k, 4k

[frigid hollow]

Mine is 80 something. Not sure if it matters much though

[frigid hollow]

82k, 4.7k

So very similar

Not sure why your Hermes can't tank on his own...

Do you go before or after sefuba?

[high talon]

speed is about 92 for Hermes

[frigid hollow]

I mean judge

[high talon]

one of the last to go

Judge is last too, that way it can hit his beginning of round attack before Grace

[frigid hollow]

Try this

[frigid hollow]

Might be better to have judge go before the enemy attackers, that way they get less hits in on you

Sefuba never goes for me

[high talon]

FML Eff My Entire G#$D#$%ed Life...just beat it

[frigid hollow]

Woohoo!

What setup did you use in the end?

[frigid hollow]

Oh you used ruiner, neat

[high talon]

I just subbed in Ruiner in there and put it up for a moment, then I looked down and saw a Victory sign. F#$% this game, taking the puppies for a walk, haha

[frigid hollow]

When I look away my madax dies, when you look away you win, sounds great to me, lol

[high talon]

lvl 20 Hard Abyss...never been here before.

[frigid hollow]

Same. I've been making rather steady progress surprisingly

Got 30m left on my break so gonna try and go through one or 2 more battles looking for the boss

[high talon]

10 days to beat the big boss...That might be doable

[frigid hollow]

Oh... Just 1 more, lol

[high talon]

Bottom left corner?

[frigid hollow]

Yh

[paper fossil]

Hell YEAH!

Los NEEDS to be slower than Demo!

Damn. You beat her before me. I was going to suggest this to you.😁

[high talon]

If I can finish this season of Abyss--not tempting fate here, but IF--then I can get my Voron up to r2. Which Pizza would appreciate. I think he'd enjoy that!

[high talon]

It's not that far off from what I eventually used!

[paper fossil]

Yeah I saw that.

Good job.

[high talon]

You too! That's no easy feat

[frigid hollow]

Wow...

The capacitor hits waaay harder than I remember

My grif gets smoked

It's a shame too, I can get her down like 1/3 in just 2 hits

2 rounds*

[high talon]

What are you using?

[frigid hollow]

Chemical judge and xcellence

[high talon]

Sustainer? Damn, I need her up to 6*

[frigid hollow]

I might switch to judge though

[high talon]

I can't brain today, not after Grace SA'ed me for the last two days

No comprendo, ne connais pas, me stupid, no brain-thinky

[frigid hollow]

That one took me a minute too

I used ruiner, and culti r2

[quaint bone]

Got the capacitor yet Epic ?

[frigid hollow]

Just got home actually

Gonna get back to it soon

[quaint bone]

Bombs !

[frigid hollow]

Is that how you did it?

[quaint bone]

4 round kill with demo and Panguan,

[frigid hollow]

No pang here...

[high talon]

or Cult r2

[quaint bone]

I think you can use ravager instead

Security gear on Ole

[frigid hollow]

Hmm?

[frigid hollow]

How much security?

[high talon]

I don't have culti r2...riffing off your pangs of lack for panguan

[frigid hollow]

Ahh

[quaint bone]

this is my solution to Crace

[frigid hollow]

Then maybe heliodor? But taking a lot of the hits would prob get him killed quickly

[frigid hollow]

Oh, that's not as high as I thought

[high talon]

I thought about that for her too. I was tempted to 6* Sansi or Zosimos

[quaint bone]

Sansi is very good in that fight

tuff fight

[frigid hollow]

In grace?

[high talon]

I also thought about writing you and your whole team a nasty direct message and rage-quiting

[quaint bone]

affinity advantage

[frigid hollow]

Oh yh, that too

[high talon]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-jackson-stare-glare-gif-11708578

[frigid hollow]

I feel like I've cracked the formula for grace. Kill the attackers very quickly, then just finish grace with corrosion

[quaint bone]

or have shield on your damage dealers, that helps as well

[frigid hollow]

Gonna try this with sustainer instead of ravager as you suggested, see how it goes

[quaint bone]

got the first kill yet ?

cause then you dont lose keys

[frigid hollow]

My judge hits way too hard for that. While helping verc earlier, I almost one shot grace

[frigid hollow]

Oh that's grace? Thought it was the capacitor?

[quaint bone]

wel I am, with you, but also posted a solution to Crace for Verc

[frigid hollow]

With a bit of tweaking I think I'd be able to do it too

[frigid hollow]

Ah, ok ok

Haven't done the first clear yet, no

[quaint bone]

first time hard abyss clear even ?

[frigid hollow]

Just for fun, I'm gonna go try😆

[frigid hollow]

😇.

Yup, I could one shot grace

[frigid hollow]

What's the hacking and attack on your demo btw?

Hmm. That stasis is annoying

Even with using culti I somehow can't escape it

[high talon]

Did you kill Capacitor yet?

[frigid hollow]

No

[high talon]

I'm almost there. I have to pass that last mini-me stage and it's right there

[frigid hollow]

Nice

[high talon]

I am over it, haha

[frigid hollow]

Good luck on the capacitor

[high talon]

Yeah, this is going to be a while

[frigid hollow]

For sure

[high talon]

This might be a problem for future me, haha

[frigid hollow]

Definitely a problem for futur me. I have tomorrow and Tuesday off, so I'll have the time to come up with a solution then

[high talon]

My takeaways are that you need at least three attackers and a high security tank/healer. Vindicator or Salvation might be options. I cannot get my Oleander up high enough in Security to be an option, so I dunno.

Based on some tests, you need higher than 250 security to be able to resist Capacitor's debuffs.

[high talon]

Notes for Epic Fragment battles (Top, Middle, Bottom; left-to-right 1-4):

Against: Meiying T4; Iridium M2, Shelter M3, Yuvan M4; Madax B2, Yuvan B3, Meiying B4
Solve: Yazid T1; Heliodor M1, Salvation M2, Volk M3, Ruiner M4

Against: Vindicator T2, Hayyan T4; Panon M2, Demolisher M3, Demolisher M4; Voron B2, Ruiner B3, Panguan B4
Solve: ???

[frigid hollow]

My oleander with ~250 security resists quite a lot

Yngvi had something like 280 so I think I'm not too far off

Gonna give it a few tries before I go to work

[high talon]

That's interesting, actually. 280 is plausible, if I upgrade my software

[high talon]

Notes for Misc Upper Abyss Encounters in Row/Hex shorthand (Top, Middle, Bottom; left-to-right 1-4), Part 2:

Against: Anemone T2, Hayyan T4; Anemone M2, Incinerator M3, Valerian M4; Iridium B2, Ruiner B3, Judge B4
Solve: Ruiner T2, Cultivator T3; Aegis M3, Heliodor M4; Hermes B3

Against: Warden T2, Asphyxator T3; Guardian M2, Hayyan M3, Demolisher M4; Voron B3, Xcellence B4
Solve: Hermes T3; Meiying M1, Sentinel M2, Aegis M3, Cultivator M4

Against: Anemone T2, Meiying T4; Anemone M1, Hayyan M2, Ruiner M4; Guardian B2, Zosimos B3, Valerian B4
Solve: Hayyan T3; Ruiner M1, Aegis M3, Hermes M4; Heliodor B3

Against: Guardian T2, Meiying T4; Vindicator M2, Meiying M4; Vindicator B2, Frontline B3, Ripper B4
Solve: Hayyan T3; Aegis M3, Hermes M4; Heliodor B3, Meiying B4
(50+ rounds, so grab a beer and pull up Netflix)

Against: Sansi T3, Meiying T4; Orel M2, Yuvan M3, Meiying M4; Warden B2, Yuvan B3, Yuvan B4
Solve: Hermes M1, Madax M2; Heliodor B1, Sentinel B3, Demolisher B4

Against: Sansi T3, Crocus T4; Iridium M2, Heliodor M3, Hayyan M4; Iridium B2, Ripper B3, Judge B4
Solve: Meiying M1; Sentinel B1, Aegis B2, Heliodor B3, Voron B4
(50+ rounds, so...)

Against: Sansi T1, Hayyan T2, Lodolite T3, Zosimos T4; Madax M1, Madax M2, Ruiner M3, Yuvan M4
Solve: Voron T2; Meiying M1, Hermes M3; Ruiner B1, Demolisher B4
(Down to the wire...)

Against: Panon T1, Hayyan T4; Anemone M2, Incinerator M3, Sha Xing M4; Voron B2, Sha Xing B3, Los B4
Solve: ???

Against: Warden T2, Frontline T3; Orel M2, Hermes M3, Valerian M4; Iridium B3, Frontline B4
Solve: Judge T1, Voron T4; Sentinel M2, Hermes M4; Heliodor B4

Against: Sansi T3, Los T4; Anemone M2, Refine M3, Hermes; Voron B2, Zosimos B3, Crocus B4
Solve: Voron T4; Judge M1, Hermes M2; Sentinel B1, Heliodor B4

[high talon]

Notes for Misc Upper Abyss Encounters in Row/Hex shorthand (Top, Middle, Bottom; left-to-right 1-4), Part 3 [Mini-Harvesters]:

Against: Volt Guard T4; Volt Guard M1, Volt Strider M2, Volt Shell M3, Volt Shocker M4; Volt Guard B1, Volt Strider B4
Solve: Judge T2, Sentinel T3, Hayyan T4; Voron M4; Hermes B4

[high talon]

Notes for Misc Upper Abyss Encounters in Row/Hex shorthand (Top, Middle, Bottom; left-to-right 1-4), Part 4:

Against: Los T4; Iridium M2, Warden M3, Aegis M4; Orel B1, Vindicator B2, Zosimos B3, Aspyxiator B4
Solve: ???

Against: Warden T1, Meiying T4; Guardian M1, Hayyan M3, Meiying M4; Defiant B1, Yuvan B4
Solve: Heliodor T4; Lodolite M1, Sentinel M2, Aegis M4; Meiying B1

[high talon]

@frigid hollow Any luck?

[frigid hollow]

Nit as yet, no

Not*

[high talon]

I am waiting on that promotion event to bump up my Sustainer for another go. Kinda holding pattern right now

[glad valve]

My lvl 20 Capacitor team

Demolisher
Hayaan Sentinel --- Voron
Xcellence

Capacitor seems to have very high defense at this level so bombs do the work

[high talon]

High Security on your Voron or no?

[frigid hollow]

Thanks!

Was about to flip a table cause I thought I had lost there

[high talon]

Damnit! TEL beat me!

[frigid hollow]

I'm not 100% sure, but I feel like culti would be better than hayyan...

Hayyan doesn't cleanse on her charge and it screwed me over, lol

Let's see if my clear is even half consistent

[glad valve]

I needed the heal from hayaan for Voron days to survive I think. I have hayaan go before Xcellence and the charge aligns with the taunt so no stasis

[frigid hollow]

What are the stats on your demo?

[glad valve]

Lots of refit, not the best rolled gear

[high talon]

hmmm...still not making it over the bar. I suck. Nobody loves me. I fail at life.

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-existentialism-what-high-gif-5364805

[glad valve]

Just gotta grind those bounties and collect abyss gear over time mate

[frigid hollow]

Ah, mine is r0, lol

[high talon]

I'll get it...actually got it down to 1/4 health. Just have to grind out 1000 repetitions of the same deal every day for next 8 and I'll...rage quit the game, I guess

[glad valve]

R2 doesn't do anything here. The hacking and attack are nice, it what lets me get away with the sub optimal gear

Panguan or an inferno unit could be swapped for demo. Anything that ignores Def

[frigid hollow]

The extra stats would make things easier. I'm also running on sup obtimal geaf

[high talon]

First time clearing hard abyss!🥳

[coarse sleet]

congrats !!!!!

enjoy farming capacitor for over a week now 😄

[high talon]

Well, skin of my teeth here, maybe still corrodium!

No, it is farmable! Awesomw!

[coarse sleet]

nice 😄

[frigid hollow]

Oh, neat

What's the stats on your aegis?

[quaint bone]

Did you use security on Voron ?

[high talon]

I did not. I used some HP gear just to test it out, and I "accidentally" beat it before I was "ready," haha.

[frigid hollow]

Hiw do you remove the stasis?

[high talon]

I don't, haha...my Security gear isn't ready yet to resist the damage and status effects. Voron basically just is a big meatshield buying me time, then Sentinel dies and then Xcellence. And then, eyeball to eyeball Demolisher kills Capacitor before it dies.

Somehow

[frigid hollow]

So your xcellence just stays in stasis after hitting the adds?

[high talon]

I think? Haha, I actually didn't notice

[brittle lion]

Anyluck on progress at Hard Abyss 18th Lvl Epic/Rare node?

I feel like I need to level up Purifier.

[frigid hollow]

Or R2 aegis

Lol

[high talon]

That one stumped me. Maybe with the new implants you could make Purifier work

[frigid hollow]

I did mine with demo I think

I put him in the middle row at the back

Tanks in front

[high talon]

This is the fragment battle, using only epics

[frigid hollow]

Oh

Lmao

I swear there was a really similar regular encounter

[high talon]

There was and were.

That was ALSO a pain in the...

The problem with that encounter is the lack of any epic cleansers. There is only a single rare cleanser, Purifier, and it needs to deal with 2 Demolishers, a Ruiner, AND a Panguan.

[frigid hollow]

Yh... There needs to be more epic cleansers

[untold anchor]

Suck at level 6 boss. Can’t beat them nor can I upload my roster? Lame

[dark magnet]

Head over to #code-of-conduct and tap the 👍 at the bottom to accept it.
Doing that will give you the member role and allow you to share screenshots.

[untold anchor]

Awesome, thanks. I’m struggling with almost everything, getting to level 7 for bounties, and anomalies. I can’t get past 1-6 in brutal for the campaign either

[high talon]

If you have a Morao, that might be a good defender to use with Heliodor, Purifier, Volk, and a high hacking Ruiner. That COULD put you over the line.

[high talon]

Prioritize your Yazid ASAP. Shelter is a good healer. Iridium is very good for Arena, but I would definitely try to take Yazid to 6* ASAP

[untold anchor]

Cool, thank will do

Even over a damage character like butcher? Or one of my other epics?

[high talon]

Yazid is still in my compositions even in some upper level Hard Abyss zones. He's in my solve for some of the higher bounties and anomalies STILL, and I have all the legendaries but 5, so probably 80-85%. Butcher should be next, or maybe after Apex, if you don't pull anything better.

[untold anchor]

Awesome, thanks

[lean hinge]

Is the Abyss layout and order of bosses the same for every player?

[coarse sleet]

yes.

even shop items and events are the same for everyone

[brittle lion]

Yeah, I guess Ill level up Purifier before the end of the season. Its the only fight left.

[high talon]

I did put a cloak set on mine with a high hp boost set. That could help

[lean hinge]

Has anyone managed to beat lvl15 boss with lvl50 units only?

[high talon]

On Hard? Or Normal?

[lean hinge]

Normal 😅

Hard, i can barely clear a few nodes in the first level with my lvl 50 armada 😂

its Corrodium

[high talon]

What are you using?

You might have to upgrade your ships up to 6* lvl 60s, at least a few, btw. It is better to have 3 maxed out ships than it is to have 12 mediocre ships.

[brittle lion]

Goddamm, finally got it - Hard node on 18th lvl

[high talon]

Oh man, Purifier to lvl 60! That's a strong team...what did you use as a formation?

[coarse sleet]

anyone else notice yazids necklace looking a little sus

[high talon]

You mean, more sus than a masculine-identifying person wearing a necklace?

[coarse sleet]

i think i am just 12

[high talon]

well, 12 or divisible by 12, for most men, is about the same thing

[lean hinge]

I can bring another unit to lvl60. I have been wondering which one. Yazid or a damage dealer?

[coarse sleet]

you have salvation already, so they should be able to compensate for tank, so id suggest DMG. probably butcher.

[lean hinge]

I have been using Asphyxiator and Sustainer a lot, especially sandwiched with Volk.

[coarse sleet]

then sure if youd prefer go sustainer.

[lean hinge]

I think I need to change the gears on Butcher, he is too slow.

[high talon]

Sustainer is a good choice, I think.

Your best ones, not in any particular order are, Asphyx, Sustainter, Heliodor, Yazid, Butcher, Stalwart, Ruiner, VOlk.

Wisteria is great, too, esp for Vault. And don't sleep on Snapdragon either

[lean hinge]

I can't wait to try Heliodor but at r1, he doesn't seem to be very useful. I am torn between saving my lvl 50 refitted Shelter/Shepherd or using them for a 6star upgrade or fusing them for Heliodor r2 🤷‍♂️😭

[high talon]

r2 Heliodor, all day long. Heliodor is a great ship.

[lean hinge]

Salvation and Warden have replaced them both respectively, so I don't really feel the need to keep them any longer.

[high talon]

I will say that fusions, as they are, are difficult. Just fyi. For your level, I think Heliodor should be relatively easy to fuse, but the process is unpleasant at best.

[lean hinge]

I have a bunch of those. But then, besides Heliodor, is there another unit I should be looking for? Or are they just all meat for their respective legos?

[high talon]

Nothing else really strikes me as that important. Luxx is good. Branx is a big booster of Luxx and Luxx is on my short list to get promoted, soon(-ish). Shepherd is good but he's fodder for my fusions, specifically Heliodor. Bison is a good fusion fodder for Sansi. Opal is good, but if you have Salvation and Heliodor, you do not need her.

Faust is good, but since you have Volk, you can ignore her. I forget what Paracelsus does. Nosorog is No-So-Important...see what I did there?

Oh, Paracelsus is kinda like Volk. Not that important WITH Volk.

[lean hinge]

Cool, thank you for your hindsight

[brittle lion]

Something like this, I dont remember if Yazid was in front or just one hex behind the front.

[high talon]

Notes for HARD Abyss BOSS Encounters using ONLY EPIC UNITS in Row/Hex shorthand (Top, Middle, Bottom; left-to-right 1-4)

(All units are 6*, lvl 60)

Antimatter Stage

Deadbeat: Yazid T4, Rhodium M1, Volk M2, Stalwart M3, Heliodor B4

Celeste Morrow: Yazid M1, Ruiner B1, Volk B2, Stalwart B3, Heliodor B4

Seraph Nix: Yazid M1, Ruiner B1, Volk B2, Stalwart B3, Heliodor B4

Nizar Idris: Yazid M1, Ruiner B1, Volk B2, Stalwart B3, Heliodor B4

Entropy: Heliodor T4, Yazid M4, Rhodium B1, Volk B2, Stalwart B3

[lean hinge]

@high talon are your units all lvl60?

[high talon]

Sorry, long week...missed this. Yep, those are 6*, mostly r5-6. And decent gear. But still, I was able to use epics up to about the tenth floor.

[quaint bone]

Boom thoose could roll well. Courtesy of Gobsmacker burned remains .

or not... arg !

[lean hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-dancing-pallbearers-coffin-dance-gif-17277085

[real radish]

if only there was a consumable that could let you reroll a sub stat

[frigid hollow]

Ooooooof

It literally could not have rolled worse, lmao

[high talon]

Anybody got a solve for this?

[frigid hollow]

I think I did judge bottom row

[high talon]

Beat it...finally

[frigid hollow]

Nice

[coarse sleet]

fragment hard 18 finally 😮

[leaden wind]

Why can't I post pictures.

Nvm lol

I did this with 3 lvl20 attackers and 2 lvl40 healers

One attacker was killed instantly an after that was slow killing them off and not dieing due to my reppers lol

[thin flare]

Can any1 post theyr Ignis lvl 20 hard abyss solve?

[quaint bone]

this is mine, Nuqtu tanks

[thin flare]

Is that Los and Inci

[high talon]

yep

[coarse sleet]

kill in about ~25s

[paper fossil]

A new team for Corrodium. 30 seconds.

[hollow kraken]

im really struggling with defeating lvl 10 capacitor, anyone got any advice?

all i got are these guys basically

[coarse sleet]

hey mate. If you're still around in an hour or so I'd be happy to help. I've just got to round out a few work meetings first 🙂

can you show me what you're us9jg in the meantime? and your hangar with what you hav3 available?

[hollow kraken]

That's what I tried to run with.. failed badly

[hollow kraken]

This is all I have avail in reasonable level

[coarse sleet]

Sorry for delay.. I just got up to the encounter myself this season. I was a little bit behind clearing normal.

Looking at the scaling on the boss this month and your hangar, I'd be very impressed if you are able to clear it this season. But lets see what we can do

This whole fight is about add management. You need to be able to 1shot the adds with a unit in my opinion. Your options for this are really just Rhodium, and ionscorp. Can either of those 1 shot a minion comfortably?

The boss damage isnt REALLY going to be affected by DEF also, so hacking high HP and decent repair is really needed. Similarly as its ATK based inferno damage, using ATK down would be helpful !

Heliodor is fine to use as a secondary healer, but as its electric boss he might take too much damage

[hollow kraken]

Kk thanks mate. Yer I'm struggling with adds.. everything takes 2 hits.... I was using helio to clear the debuff mainly

[coarse sleet]

you can resist the debuff from the boss (white phosphorus) so I'd suggest using a unit like Purifier to clear the debuff, as they'll also give you +60 security. If you pair that with using say... Defiant with a security software piece you should be taking VERY little damage, and purifier will also clear the stasis from the minions

[hollow kraken]

I used rhod and ion just to make sure they can 2 shot clear the adds and if one misses out . At least the other can clear during taunt buff

[coarse sleet]

I just used this layout and it cleared it comfortably for me. BUT my units are clearly higher level/refit. Defiant/ionscopr/flamel have no equipment on them though as i tried to counter balance their raw level. Rhodium/purifier had equipment

[hollow kraken]

Ooo tha is I'll give it a shot

[coarse sleet]

This was my defiant stats with no equipment for reference. if they resist the debuff (which they did about 50% of the time with the +60 from purifier) you shouldnt have too much trouble reaching ~130-150 security on your tank and take very little damage

ionscorp was this wioth no equipment. But the real issues was my rhodium with some endgame gear on her, but even with 25% of this equipment she'll still oneshot (she crits 50k in this gear)

[hollow kraken]

kk thanks mate i'll give it a shot

but ur ionscorp could clear the adds 1 shot?

[coarse sleet]

if she crits, yes. But she didn't in this case with no equipment. I would assume you can get significantly better than my naked ionscorp stats though.

[hollow kraken]

yer i can only get my ionscorp to

and rhod only

cant one hit yet

[paper fossil]

I kinda have a feeling that all Hard Abyss encounters from above lvl 10 are much more difficult than last season. Or is it just me?

[timber monolith]

Abyss normal 14 will security tank work as strategy? If so does anyone know how much needed? Tried heliodoor , warden ,shepherd, nemesis 120-140 security doesn't seem to be enough

[timber monolith]

Tank dies with bomb explosion always

[dark magnet]

Try using a unit that can cleanse the bombs.
Hayyan and Cultivator are Legendary options for this, but Purifier is also available as a rare Bidnerburg unit that can cleanse

[timber monolith]

my abyss normal 14 boss... warden(35k hp 4.2k defense) with battlecry inplant dies round 3... rest all tanked by oleander(50k hp) with additional 10k-15k heals per turn done by volk (30k hp)

[timber monolith]

Brute forced it haha

[lapis frost]

Hard abyss 14lvl Scorched Pest , any tips how to ?

[timber monolith]

Any tips for abyss 15 normal ignis? Struggling with getting damage on ignis. Not enough damage on adds too I guess. turn 3 onwards it spirals out of control

[lapis frost]

Thanks , work great 🍻

[lapis frost]

Use zolite

[timber monolith]

Thanks will try. Feels like he doesn't hit hard enough.... Maybe bad gear sets

[lapis frost]

Zeo give def down iii , he must shot first.

[lapis frost]

Abyss hard lvl 16 boss Deadbeat , any tips?

[paper fossil]

Hayyan has the most HP there.

That way takes the bombs from the boss and other supporters all cleanse those together.

[high talon]

Alright, what am I doing here?

[frigid hollow]

I think that demo is the biggest threat, taking care of him first is essential. Then the next biggest threat is that asphyxiator. So I think a back attacker in the mid row, to kill demo (then liberator) then move onto the bottom row would see some good success

Though I now see that iridium... So meiying would be the optimal unit for this

[high talon]

Alright, Entropy. How are we solving him this month?

[quaint bone]

this is 100%

[dark magnet]

I do almost the same, I just use Judge instead of Los

[quaint bone]

is that 100% ? always clears the adds ?

took me few tries to find the right grind setup

[dark magnet]

yepp. and trial and error is also how I landed there too. Took me about 10 keys to get a stable comp.
The extra hit form Judge as soon as the boss is under 50% helps quite a bit

[high talon]

Is that Zosimos?

[dark magnet]

No Zosimos. The middle is AEGIS, Sentinel, and Hayyan.

[high talon]

Not terrible with Judge and Los. I might need to speed-tune it. What’s your speed on your attackers?

(My Liberator is sadly still 5* and r0)

[dark magnet]

119 and 124. They go before the boss because of Sentinels speed buff

[high talon]

My Sentinel’s speed is over 200, but my Judge and Los are in the 90s

they go s-l-o-w

Done, beat it!

Judge T1, Aegis M1, Sentinel M2, Heliodor M3, Los B1

[frigid hollow]

I'm stuck on this encounter. Any tips? No mei still...

[frigid hollow]

Alright, managed to get through that roadblock

[high talon]

Did you get the refit?

The gold refit? The "g" refit...the "grefit", maybe? 🤣

[frigid hollow]

Oh not yet. I'm still a bit of a ways off

[chrome sky]

Alright what do I do here?It one shots my ships every time I do damage to it.

[high talon]

Which one is that?

[chrome sky]

That is the lovely Grace Whitmore.

[frigid hollow]

Corrosion units with low damage

Or hit it really really hard

[chrome sky]

Tried both. Didn't work so far.

[timber monolith]

ignis normal (abyss 15) finally done (barely haha) thanks to sustainer

[keen tundra]

Any tips for the Abyss 18 fragment battle? Been using Butcher, Ruiner, Sefuba or Ripper, Heliodor and Shepherd

[thick sun]

Post a screenshot? From memory I guess I used heliodor as my only tank (bottom row) with butcher, luxx, rhodium & stalwart all lined up on the top. That was my setup for 95% of ths encounters

[keen tundra]

I'll give it a try, ty!

[thick sun]

Any luck? Post a roster if you want

[nimble thorn]

I need advice on how to defeat Leila Shaheen Abyss Depth 07 on Normal. Haven't been playing very long, so I don't have the greatest roster, but who should i use and what level should they be?

[nimble thorn]

@coarse sleet any chance you could look into this one also? 😊

[coarse sleet]

unfortunately i cannot repeat encounters once cleared in normal abyss, can you send a pic of the normal encounter layout?

[nimble thorn]

Leila's unit starts with 50% health, but it regenerates 100% dramatically fast after each attack. the match ends with that unit having more health than it started with

[coarse sleet]

damn i wish my memory was better. hmm let me just get up to her quickly on hard to read her skillset and have a play. I autopilot these encounters these days sorry, its been a while sincei progressed them. give me 10min !

we'll get you through it though dw 😄

[nimble thorn]

absolutely no reason to apologize, and no need to rush!

[coarse sleet]

do you have ruiner at all?

or ripper?

[nimble thorn]

sorry, those are names of characters or a descriptor for a type?

if its a character name, then i do not have those

[coarse sleet]

they are characters.

epic units that can reduce repair enemies get

maybe try something like this then?

its hermes top row, and middle row from back to front is Rhodium, Lakspur (rare unit), Apex and Madax.

my concern is the AoE from boss onto apex might hurt a little too much

if it is, then try this positioning.

Note on using Lakspur:

This unit is only here to apply the incoming repair down debuff. reducing how much the boss heals. As soon as you pull Ruiner however, this encounter and future versions of her once you enter hard abyss will become trivial

[tawny gale]

Anyone have a solution to entropy this month

[paper fossil]

My solution to it the last time encountered. Hard abyss.

[tawny gale]

This is what I was finally able to get to work, but I thank you for your solution, I just couldn't get it to work for me.

[paper fossil]

Looks perfect to me!
Nice job mate!

[high talon]

Any hints on how to solve this guy?

[frigid hollow]

Demo

R2 if possible

Ah, with ruiner as well, to counter hayyan

[high talon]

Boom! Ty!

[vivid crescent]

Which Epics are worth promoting to 6* for Fragment Battles?

[high talon]

I use Stalwart, Ruiner, Volk, Heliodor, and Yazid. I do have Salvation and Flamel 6* but don't really use them. Butcher, Cobalt, Sefuba, and Luxx are on my shortlist. I know lots of others use them a lot, too.

[high talon]

Any good solves for Corrodium? Stable?

[frigid hollow]

Do you guys have any tips for this fight?

[frigid hollow]

I used lib R2 on the bottom row, to clear the adds, then sustainer to kill the boss.
Also used aegis, grif and Hermes for extra dangerous, heals and to clear out the corrosion

[high talon]

sustainer r2? Because I don’t have Grif or r2 Sustainer

[frigid hollow]

Sustainer R2 isn't necessary. Can't even remember if mine is or not, lol

Grif can be swapped out for sent if you have him. Just needs the formation to be tweaked a bit

Or instead another dps

[high talon]

How is your formation? Is it around Aegis? Because I am getting the add-shuffle back and forth across the top and it’s silly

[high talon]

Currently I am running Zosimos R0 (T1), Aegis R2 (M1), Obsidian R2( M2), Heliodor (M3), and Liberator R3 (B1), and it’s intermittent

Not really farmable

[frigid hollow]

Yh, that's why I have lib in the bottom row, so he can focus on just the adds, while sustainer works on the boss

Let me go grab my formation, one sec

[high talon]

Thanks! It's the Grif that screw me up a bit. It took me a while to get the whole Liberator bottom-row deal, but because I had Sentinel you have to put an attacker in the top row.

I might try Hayyan if I get a new key in the top row.

[frigid hollow]

Lib just needs to go before sustainer

[high talon]

Interesting...r2 Grif?

[frigid hollow]

Yh, but that only adds some defence iirc

[frigid hollow]

Closest I've ever gotten

Just can't get those bombs to get a kill though, shame

I've got another idea though

[wooden dune]

@wise rune I'm stuck on the same hard abyss lvl 5 capacitor... I can't keep up with the adds freezing my units everytime they get hit, then by the 8th round they're not going down in 1 shot anymore... then it's game over.

[wise rune]

What teams are players using for Capacitor Abyss Level 5? It seems impossible with the taunt after spawning 2 adds, there is no way to recover from that.....

[high talon]

Anyone got a solve for this little guy? I think lvl 19

[high talon]

I use something like this for Capacitor. @wise rune

[frigid hollow]

I remember that one, lol

I think the solve I settled on was taking out yuyan first

[high talon]

Yeah, but how’d you do that…f#@$er is stealth

[frigid hollow]

Lodolite

[high talon]

Hmmm

[frigid hollow]

Yh, if you kill yuyan, then the middle row becomes very safe

[high talon]

But what did you use? I'm using a few different varieties of major tank/supporters and not making good headway.

Just as an aside, a lot of these upper-level "turtle" puzzles are beginning to bore me. It's 30-70+ rounds, just turtling up and chipping away at something.

[frigid hollow]

I can't remember exactly, but I think I went for the one shot on yuyan with lodolite (could try mei since she also targets back) I think I just used aegis and Hermes to tank? Honestly can't remember

[high talon]

Just beat it. Heliodor t1, Isha T2, Hermes M2, Sentinel M3, Meiying M4. That sucked. 50 rounds

[high talon]

And this one, who has a good solve for this?

[frigid hollow]

I used demo and zos to kill them

I put them in the top row

Culti and Heli were enough to tank

[frigid hollow]

It's this fight, but I swapped pang for zos

[high talon]

Just got it...Marauder and Ruiner, Hayyan, Heliodor, and Voron

This season is done.

[vivid crescent]

Fragment 19 - anyone have a solution?

[high talon]

That one hurt, if I remember. I think I used Ruiner, Volk, Heliodor, Stalwart and Yazid...Ruiner, Volk, Stalwart up top, Heliodor middle front and Yazid back bottom.

So ething like that

[vivid crescent]

Thanks for the reply verc!

Didn’t work for me at all - none of my ships were tough enough for that formation.

Did finally beat it though - with Wisteria doing all the damage. 28 rounds!

This was the last fight I needed to win to get the Legendary refit. Woot!!

Had to build a lvl 60 Flamel for this, probably screwed myself for the next promotion event.

Key was Heliodor, as usual. Biggest problem was the Meiying’s “disable” debuff. Put Heliodor T4 where he’d get hit twice per round and never get hit by a Meiying.

Even after figuring out the formation, had to run it dozens of times to get a win. Don’t think I’ll ever get all my gear back where it belongs.

[autumn sparrow]

Nice, congrats!

[coarse sleet]

I wonder if we could collate a list of people that have full cleared hard abyss....

[autumn sparrow]

Like an ingame hall of fame?

[coarse sleet]

yeah I guess!

[high talon]

Full clear? I clear as much as I want and as little as I can get away with: get the lego refit and the top floor.

The last three battles? Nah, no thanks, too much time, haha

[coarse sleet]

by full clear I mean lego refit

[high talon]

Ah, got it...

I'm just glad I beat Aron (I hope!) to full clear!

[keen tundra]

Does anyone have a solution for Hard Abyss 12 boss (Roach Roaster)?

[paper fossil]

Hermes, Heliodor
Demolisher, Sentinel, Meying
From May this year.

This is the way I did it today.
Grif
Los, Sentinel, Liberator
Meying

[keen tundra]

Awesome, thanks!

[paper fossil]

Glad to help.

[thick sun]

Corrosion approch if helpful to anyone- all units R2 & above

[tender sorrel]

Capacitor lvl 10 is straight up unbalanced and poorly designed. Unless, of course, they designed it purposefully to be a roadbloack and force players to buy in order to get past it quickly because holy shit, I hate this bastard. Seeeeeeriously considering rage quitting the game because of this mfker.

[real radish]

Abyss depths 5/10/15/20 are blockades you’ll face. Even some of the bosses between can be an absolute pain to deal with.

Personally I’ve spent a lot and even at times struggle with some of the normal bosses at depth 15+ it’s nothing to do with forcing you to spend it’s all about the composition and the placement of your ships along with the gear you’ve earn through the bounty grind

There are some without legendaries at high refits who use different compositions and have managed to get gear that’s better equipped for units that can push easier than those of us who have spent a chunk of money

[tender sorrel]

True and fair. Doesn't make what I said any less true. Truth be told, the most pain any previous boss gave me were 3 or 4 tries. This one? I've tried beating in over 400 times already. No composition I have available works. I get roadblocks, truly I do, but there's a big difference between a good roadbloack and an almost maliciously designed one.

For example, I'll give you three options to make the boss more balanced whilst retaining its high difficulty:
1.- Remove the Taunt ability. ---- In Return, Capacitor gains around 20% more HP.
2.- The little Bastards it spawns don't spawn other little bastards. Only the Capacitor Spawns them. - In return, Capacitor either gains a small regeneration or shield ability every time the little bastard dies.
3.- Mitigate the Damage reduction by bringing it to a maximum of 70% instead of 100% when the enemy field is full of little bastards. --- In return, Capacitor gains immunity to being critted when the field is full of little bastards.

[carmine seal]

I dont see your issues other than you raging too hard and propably lack damage.
Every Capacitor has their own challenges and mechanics. If you rage this hard on this one, guess i wont like to know what you do on the next.
Accept that you are not up to it yet.

[wooden dune]

My problem with capacitor is that it almost requires certain units with certain damage patterns. Judge is useless because he’s single target. Meiying fails because she hits back row first, which sometimes means that she can’t reach them all, so I end up trying to take a third in, and I’m struggling for a pattern and enough damage to do the trick. Frontline has the wrong pattern, ravager doesn’t do enough damage without debuffs, butcher fails to hit the one in front, rhodium is single attack and I can’t get her to 1 shot them. Without Los, Excellence, or a few others, capacitor is a VERY big roadblock.

I feel @tender sorrel pain on capacitor… I banged my head against that wall all of last abyss season. This season I have hard 5 on auto instead of unable to complete.

The best helpful suggestion I can offer is to find someone who puts defense down debuffs (zeolite) and someone who can hit both (for me was ravager (he was wrong affinity for last abyss), add in high damage single target or a second attacker who can hit both(I had best results with judge) buff with grif, and tank with a healer like salvation. I never beat capacitor or hard abyss level 5, but that would get me to almost half damage before capacitor added too many defender adds, and the defense buffs got too big for them to fall in first hit.

[vivid crescent]

I use Meiying on Capacitor, and don’t use Los or Excellence 😆

Thinking of trying something different this time now that I’ve built up Liberator.

This will be the first time facing it at depth 20 though, might be that my formation isn’t strong enough.

[tender sorrel]

Well, used every resource I had available to get two other units to lvl 60. Still couldn't beat it after another 100 tries.

Have fun, everyone. I spent little but I am not willing to go down the Gacha rabbithole when the game is this unbalanced and predatory.

[tawny gale]

This was my solution for roach.

Does anyone have a solution for Tamir

[thick sun]

@tawny gale

[paper fossil]

The player who came up with the solution for the fragment battle against two Meying is a GENIUS!
Thank you!

[vivid crescent]

Looks like a variant of mine from Frag 19 battle last season. Swapping in Butcher for Flamel.

I had more separation between Yazid and Heliodor though - so that Heliodor never gets Disabled by a Meiying.

Funny that Wisteria is so useful at the bottom of the Abyss even on non-frag regular encounters. Her pattern lets you take out stealthed attackers (and sometimes a boss) and occasionally Wisteria > Valerian so you don’t feed an enemy Sansi’s healing.

Took me three days to figure this one out, lol. It was the last win I needed to get to 660 for the Leg Refit.

[paper fossil]

That's awesome! I gave up early last season. Going for the refit this time.

[vivid crescent]

Same setup works vs the 4 Meiying encounter on Hard 19.

All four Meiying die on the same round. Its glorious 😆

[young jasper]

Beating normal level 5 Corrodium as a relatively new player and not too much work with.

Warden, Butcher, and Los at level 50

Heliodor and Shelter at level 40

Warden M4, Butcher M3, Heliodor M2, Shelter B3, Los B2

Los did a good job at 2 shoting each add, keeping them always at 1 on the board. Probably a little luck helped.

[dire bane]

Can someone tell me what kind of lineup to put together for the Avyss (Normal 10) boss?

[thick sun]

@dire bane Take it to unit advice channel? Lot s sof bosses & battle modes so you'll have to be more specific 😀

[dire bane]

I've corrected my message 🙂

[thick sun]

Me too 🤣

Can't loik back at 10 Normal any more what are boss affinities / skills?

In general looks like Judge & butcher with grif firing their skills first would cover dps approach plus heliodor &.... one other to draw bosses fire

[dire bane]

there are sumones of units. At first I seem to have time to shoot a unit, but after a 1 min I don't hit the timing, there are a lot of them.

I did it through four DDs and a hil. ☺️

[high talon]

What are we using for this little guy?

[frigid hollow]

Lmao I just gave up for the night on that one

That Los hits unusually hard

[high talon]

Got it...

Gotta solve for Capacitor again

[vivid crescent]

Same encounter, completely different solution for those (like me) who don’t have Hermes yet.

[high talon]

What are some good solves for Capacitor?

Good, stable solves...evidently stage 15 gives you one Ultimate inplant a month

[paper fossil]

YEAH!!!!!

[lapis frost]

What stat i need to win this room , first room depth 17 hard ? My tank and support die to fast ... .

[frigid hollow]

I would suggest going with demo

You have him at refit 2, so if can manage to survive a couple rounds you'll win

[lapis frost]

try with demo , my tanks or support die fast

[frigid hollow]

Hmm

What healers do you have?

[lapis frost]

moment, i start game

[frigid hollow]

Tanks as well

[lapis frost]

Maybe its bug , becose i cant survive 3 rounds

[frigid hollow]

There's a grif on the enemy team, she makes all the enemies
Hit really hard, even the tanks

Maybe try a set up like this?

Culti going before the enemies so he can get his buffs on

[lapis frost]

Ok i try

[frigid hollow]

If your Hermes is taking on too much damage, you can try moving culti one hex back, so the ravager doesn't hit your Hermes as well

[lapis frost]

They cant survive even 1 round, ravager hit culti with def buff for 49k

No idea whats going on

[frigid hollow]

Hmm

Do you have grif by any chance? Or Los?

[lapis frost]

yes

[frigid hollow]

Maybe you could try going all out on damage to kill the enemy dps before they kill you?

Judge, Los, grif and sentinel+ voron to tank a little bit

[lapis frost]

change gear , and done this room , with m1 hayan , m2 demo , m3 judge , m4 obsidian , b4 grief , dont have screen ;[

[frigid hollow]

Nice!

[autumn sparrow]

Can someone recommend epic units for the Fragment Battles (epics only)? I have Butcher and Salvation in the lineup, was thinking about leveling Yazid as tank (also want him for the Vault), but not sure which other attackers to use / level up (for normal 18 and above + hard abyss).

Atm I have the following other attackers on my roster: Rhodium (50), Sefuba (40), and Snapdragon, Luxx, Stalwart, Cobalt not leveled yet

[dark magnet]

I think your idea about Yazid is 100% right, and from the lineup you mentioned I would absolutely go for LUXX and then either Stalwart or Sefuba, if not both for some options
If and when you get your hands on a Volk I would highly recommend investing in him as well

[autumn sparrow]

Thanks @Branx :), just checked, I have Volk. So Yazid, Salvation, Volk, Butcher + Stalwart or Sefuba depending on affinity?

[dark magnet]

Luxx before Stalwart and Sefuba imo. He's a god!

[autumn sparrow]

Ah good 🙂

[autumn sparrow]

Thanks a lot 🙂

[unique token]

I'm stuck on the level 14 boss, Scorched Pest. I can't find a mention of this boss with the line-up I'm getting. Anyone have any idea how to clear this. The units I have deployed here clear the tank and debuffer, and that's the best result I've had so far.

[quaint bone]

Try to use dots that do their damage through shields. Dont see what you got more then Valerian, she could help. Ruiner would as well

[vivid crescent]

For Frag battles: Salvation, Heliodor, Butcher, Volk and Ruiner get me through the first 17 or 18 floors.

Then have to add a tank (Yazid) in place of either Volk or Butcher.

Ruiner is really the key Epic attacker for Abyss - needed in several encounters (not just frag battles) on the last few floors.

Had one fight this season (frag fight on Hard 20) where Ruiner, Luxx (at lvl 50), Yazid, Salvation, Heliodor was the key. Enemy team featured an Aegis and Luxx ignores shields.

I have a lvl 50 Rhodium for one of the Abyss bosses (because she hits stealthed enemies and I don’t have Lodolite yet). Never used her for anything else.

Wisteria is essential on the Frag fight vs two Meiying (and you need her for Vault anyway).

Never found any use for any other epic attackers except Yuyan - he back targets, ignores taunt/provoke and applies concentrate fire - then helps Ruiner kill that target.

Btw - Luxx and Butcher were my first two attackers, they were my A Team for weeks.

Butcher consistently outperformed Luxx everywhere.

[autumn sparrow]

Thanks @vivid crescent, I use Wisteria allready for Vault, Yazid and Luxx are on their way to 60 as Branx suggested them as well (Yazid for Vault anyway), and will look at Heliodor, Ruiner and Yuyan (I have them but not leveled yet). I like it that they all can find usecases :).

[quaint bone]

I just love Ripper in some of this Fragment battles

[frigid hollow]

Holy

Maybe I should use ripper more often, lol

(I've never used him before)

[quaint bone]

he is very nifty, specially in those fragment battles and with those 2, flamel and heliodor

[wooden dune]

Ripper and Flamel makes a pretty potent team… throw in some DOT folks, and it’s a party!

[paper fossil]

Abyss 100% cleared!
Thanks to @vivid crescent!!!!

[high talon]

https://tenor.com/view/jinny-jinnytty-licking-plate-blelele-gif-22168547

Clean Plate Club!

[paper fossil]

I have been told not to do that. But, my father always did it, so I lick them also.🙈

[high talon]

So, how are we beating this guy?

[vivid crescent]

Luxx, Ruiner, Salvation, Heliodor in M1-M4, Yazid T4

[paper fossil]

Tweaked Cultivator a bit and got a better team than before. Now it is 100%.

[coarse sleet]

25s cap comp

[shy flare]

Oof. New player (under 3 weeks) Lvl 10 normal capacitor was tough but was able to beat it. REALLY wanted Yazid.

Apex T1, Ionscorp T2
HeliM3, Grif M4 (tanking)
Sefuba B1

Sefuba, Apex and Ionscorp geared for crit rate.

Sefuba had the strongest attack to clear the ads as they spawned

Heli duration reduction cleared the disables which was the key for my clear

Apex should have been subbed out for a better chemical damage dealer but I didn't have one yet. Chemical Rare Mangler would definitely have done it. A good Electric or Purple would probably have done it too. Maybe butcher.

[coarse sleet]

nice work this is awesome !

[young jasper]

Any advice on depth 07 boss? (Normal difficulty)

[autumn sparrow]

Can't remember it but from the pic, I would spread my damage dealers and supports away from the tank so they don't get hit by the boss and can nuke him, healer and tank in front, does that work?

[vivid crescent]

Tank M4, Healer B4, Attackers M1 & B1 with Sentinel M2

Ruiner or Ripper attacking the boss really helps.

[young jasper]

I think I'm definitely going to need to get those units before proceeding

[vivid crescent]

Ruiner is very effective in abyss, all the way down to Hard 20.

[shy flare]

Gobsmacker Normal (Level 11)

Day 23 account. What a jerk this boss is. Had to do a lot of gear farming and level heliodor to 60.

Formation

Shelter T4
Sefuba M1, Heliodor M4
Apex B1, Purifier B4

Pertinent Stats

• Shelter (50) (3 refit, not relevant) (+30% repair from gear.) HP 18359, Speed 92 (must be faster than Heliodor)
• Sefuba (50) (1 refit, not relevant) - 5850 attack, 86% crit, 71% crit power. Charge Manipulation - drain 2 charges from enemy to reduce bomb frequency.
• Heliodor (60) (Refit 2 very relevant) - 37313 hp, 2858 defense, Speed 91. Tank. No special equipment bonuses, I opted for raw HP.
• Apex (50) (No refit)- hacking 168. I didn't have enough hacking to apply debuffs. Needs to kill bottom line before purifier dies. Can sub out for any strong back line attacker (to hit shelter once the bottom line is dead).
• Purifier (40) (2 refit, not relevant) - 9751 HP, 1649 defense, 93 speed. (must be faster than Heliodor)

Battle Notes:

1. Purifier is there to cleanse most of the bombs. (i still had the occasional bomb go off).
2. Healers + Purifier must be faster than tank.
3. Once the Electric ships were gone, 10 rounds to kill shelter, A lot of rounds to kill Gobsmacker
4. 1 failed attempt due to crits. 2nd attempt was smooth.

Thoughts

1. For me, key to progress was reading the bosses passive. realizing Tanks take too much damage from the boss, and I couldn't rush the boss down.

2. No Heliodor? 2 cleansers, or some absolutely absurd healing. If you ever see (inferno, bomb, inferno) on your tank, that means you don't have enough cleanse (or reduction from Heliodor).

3. Debuffing attack might help a lot (reduce bomb damage)

4. I would say aside from Heliodor, my units are kinda crappy for this fight, but it was still doable! If you have better debuffers, healers, and maybe tanks, this fight is probably doable with an sub 1 month account.

[coarse sleet]

nice writeup! this is great! Always fun to hear how other players are progressing. Particularly for newer/changed content i havent had to progress through. Excellent info on your approach 🙂

[vivid crescent]

Very nice!

Heliodor can actually do all of the cleansing if you let him get hit more.

For your setup, Shelter B4 in place of Purifier, and then you don’t need Purifier at all with Heliodor cleansing more - top row enemies hitting Heliodor rather than Shelter.

This allows the addition of a buffer (Volk, Grif or Sentinel), or a 3rd attacker - kills faster.

[shy flare]

Ignis Normal (Level 15)

Day 31 account. Really just posting this for newer players (read replies incase others have good additional feedback). I pretty much have no Electric attackers, and only level 50 attackers. Key to the fight is keeping the Spawns DEAD

Formation

Crucialis T1, Sefuba T2
Grif M1, Butcher M2
Heliodor B4

Relevant Stats

• Crucialis (50) (4 refit) Attack 5498, Crit 101%, Crit Power 71% (must be faster than single target DPS. If tied, place higher on the map)
• Sefuba (50) (1 refit, not relevant) - Attack 3976, 63% crit, 76% crit power.
• Grif (50) (No refit) - 2x boost set for longer buff durations. Need that Crit power up time. Speed faster than attackers.
• Butcher (50) (No refit) - Attack 5175, Crit 87%, Crit Power %
• Heliodor (60) (Refit 2) - HP 37053, DEF 2838, SPD faster than boss.

Battle Notes:

1. Keeping the Spawns under control means almost no damage occurring from the main boss.
2. Crucialis (Rare) is the big key here with 100% crit, affinity. Maybe could have solo'd the spawning ships the whole way. Must go after Buffer and before single target DPS
3. Sefuba - Front row hitter that did splash damage behind. Did pretty small damage on main target. For me, it was a patch in case Crucialis' splash damage didn't kill the secondary spawn. Substitute for better splash hitter, or maybe even a strong single target hitter if Crucialis is able to keep the spawns under control.
4. Grif - Can probably substitute for Paracelsus (Rare) or another buffer to boost Crucialis' damage. Boost sets to increase the duration of charged buffs to 100% uptime.
5. Butcher - Substitutable for your best direct target DPS. Must go slower than other DPS above.
6. Heliodor - Just there to absorb hits and heal self. Very substitutable with any strong healer or tank geared for HP / Defense. As long as spawns

Thoughts

1. Easy fight once you get the spawns under control. Crucialis MVP for me.

[high talon]

NIce! Good solve!

[quaint bone]

I will have to collect those for future reference

[pseudo olive]

I am stuck on the level 10 boss. Looking for suggestion on who to use from my small fleet or who I could level to get me past it

[high talon]

Which Abyss, Normal? Sorry, Vegar, meant to respond to this earlier...I see you have Yazid and Heliodor and you want those two leveled up to 60 ASAP. Nuqtu is a great attacker, especially against the Boss's adds. Level her to 60. Butcher is great too, and I think Apex is your third attacker

[pseudo olive]

Yes normal

[pseudo olive]

To verify your suggested team is Yaxid, Heliodor, Nuqtu, Butcher, and Apex. I need to get them to 60 (which I am working on) starting with Nuqtu, followed by Yaxid and Heliodor

[high talon]

I think so. It should look like, using hex-row notation, with the top row being "T", middle (M), Bottom (B), from left (1) to right (4), be something like:

Apex T1, Butcher M1, Heliodor M2, Yazid M3 or M4, Nuqtu B1

Luxx, Sefuba, and Stalwart are also good too

[pseudo olive]

Thanks for the help

[lapis frost]

Any tips to this nod ? Ruiner bomb crush me ...

Only epic unit

[quaint bone]

maybe the problem there is that Yazid is taking hits that would benefit heliodor so he can clear the bombs ?

so one could move Yaz to middle to take one out of two hits from the top lane, or just but him in the bottom row ?

[lapis frost]

I change Yaz with Helio and done 😉🍻 thanks

[vivid crescent]

Anyone have a solution for the Frag encounter on Hard 20 - with the three Meiying?

[tough rose]

Any tips for level 5 boss, Corrodium? The infinitely spawning adds keep drawing my fire. My dps are Butcher and Sha Xing; after the first shot lands on the boss, all the following shots land on one of the adds.

[dark magnet]

You actually need to make sure to constantly kill the adds
The boss has a passive causing him yo take less damage for each add alive, so you will get overwhelmed if you don't focus on them

[tough rose]

So I need 1 ship to OHKO each add, and 1 or 2 ships to pound the boss?

[dark magnet]

or 2 ships focusing the adds and one to kill the boss
depends on what you have available

[frigid hollow]

Isn't that capacitor? I thought corrodium was green one

[dark magnet]

It is true for all harvesters wrong

[tough rose]

Okay, thanks. Looks like I won't be clearing this boss any time soon.

[dark magnet]

What attackers/debuffers do you have available that are thermal and chemical?

[tough rose]

Butcher, Sha Xing and Apex. Apex dies on turn 2; maybe he's too under leveled.

[dark magnet]

All of those have skip targeting which will cause problems
You will need a front targeting attacker that can 1-hit KO the adds and place that unit in the bottom row so they will always prioritize the adds

[frigid hollow]

Oh, I was not aware. The capacitor is the only harvester that I have issues controlling the adds

Especially since I ignore the adds on Ignis and just gun him down. Don't even notice the damage reduction

[dark magnet]

Apologies, actually you are right
I think my mind was more on the "the adds will overwhelm you at some point" track
in this case i think the corrosion interactions will be come too much

[frigid hollow]

Ah, ok

[mild sluice]

Looking for tips on Level 10 Boss, Electric Harvester. Should I try tanking the damage with something like Voron with 3 healers and a back targeter?

[vivid crescent]

I use corrosion on the boss - best corrosion ship at M1.

Tank the boss with your best healer at M4, preferably with affinity advantage. If the fight goes long and this is your weak spot, might need to put it in a security suit to resist the dots. Hayyan here if you can - for the cleanse of stasis on bottom row.

Bottom row two attackers and either sentinel or grif (maybe volk), or 3 attackers. Job is to keep the adds under control. Not easy, especially due to Capacitor’s Charged skill. Xcellence works best. Otherwise try to avoid affinity disadvantage (due to cap on crit rate), although Meiying does ok here. Prefer attackers with pattern to hit at least two adds with each shot.

[mild sluice]

I'll give this a go! Probably going to try Hayyan, Wisteria, Xcellence, Volk, Sefuba as she might be my next best affinity attacker

[tough rose]

Thanks, it worked.

I used Yarrow and Makoli in mid; Judge, Butcher and Shaxing in bottom. Managed to wipe out the adds despite the type disadvantage.

[vivid crescent]

Same boss appears in Hard Abyss, at lvl 5, 10, 15, 20 - rotates each season.

Same strategy witks all the way to Hard 20.

Definitely gets harder though.

Most challenging boss in the game - difficult to keep the adds under control. If you get behind on them, you lose fast. Even if you beat it, often can’t consistently farm it.

[hexed basalt]

Not having any luck with level 10. Who do you suggest I take in with this group

[vivid crescent]

Capacitor? Tank it with Salvation.

[hexed basalt]

Yep capacitor

[vivid crescent]

For Capacitor: Try best Corrosion M1, Salvation M4

Bottom row: three attackers or two attackers plus Sentinel/Grif/Volk - best you have that can keep the adds under control.

[hexed basalt]

Almost got it. Just need to upgrade equipment maybe. Thanks for the help

[vivid crescent]

Tends to fall apart when Capacitor does his Charged skill - which taunts as well as summoning two adds.

So, any attackers you have thar have “ignore taunt” will help.

If you have Hayyan or Cultivator to tank with - they also ckeanse the Stasis debuff off your bottom row atrackers. Deep in Abyss, I needed Salvation’s affinity advantage here, but in Normal and doen to Abyss 10 it didn’t matter.

Affinity advantage on attackers is key if trying to farm it - fir the consistency (not having crit capped at 75%), but just trying to get past it once this doesn’t matter as much - can just run it a bunch of times until you get lucky.

Having atrackers tgat can hit at least 2 adds at a time really helps.

Xcellence totally rocks here if you have him.

[mild sluice]

I just don't think I have the damage for this at the moment. Most of my Legendaries are still R0, including Xcellence. I've tried tanking with Salvation, boosting Xcellence and Judge (or X and Sefuba or X and Nuqtu) or using Hayyan to cleanse the two attackers. I just can't keep the ads down after round 4 or 5 (around the charged attack). I'll just finish the Abyss I can, and see what the rest of the month holds

[tough rose]

Abyss 10 Normal?

Based on Belisarius' advice, I cleared it with level 50 ships:

I used Yarrow and Makoli in mid; Judge, Butcher and Shaxing in bottom. Managed to wipe out the adds despite the type disadvantage.

[mild sluice]

No sorry, Abyss 10 Hard this season with Electic Harvester lol

[tough rose]

Wow! I'm already having a hard time with Normal Abyss big bosses. Can't even begin to imagine fighting the Hard mode. Good luck.

[mild sluice]

For me, I struggled at Abyss Normal Level 17 (I think) for a long time. It was the stealth bomber one. Once I finally got a stealth targeter (Rhodium) I could finally tank the damage and slowly beat the boss. Since I was stuck so long, the rest of normal was easy and Abyss level 1 was doable. You'll make it!

[tough rose]

Thanks.

[noble hawk]

Well, finally completed Hard Abyss level 5 for the first time, wasn't pretty but it worked

[subtle forge]

Folks, what set-up did you use to beat Grace Whitmore please? Hard abyss lvl 9. Thank you!

[vivid crescent]

Here’s three solutions I’ve come up with:

Belisarius’ Grace Whitmore solution(hard 9): Valerian M1, Salvation M4, Meiying B1, Sentinel B2, Butcher B3
Kill the minions fast, finish boss with corrosion. Butcher needs to kill Panguan turn 1 - took a few tries to get lucky. Adjust speed of attackers if necessary to go first.

Belisarius’ full Corrosion Grace Whitmore solution (Hard 9): Wisteria T1, Crocus T2, Valerian T3, Hayyan T4, Heliodor B4.
Notes: seems like corrosion will never kill the first tank, and then he dies. Boss dies at about 2:30.

Belisarius’ Grace Whitmore solution (Hard 19): Sansi (or Voron or Panon) T1, Valerian M1, Sentinel M2, Salvation M4, Meiying B1 (Meiying kills the minions, Valerian kills the Boss. Salvation > Hayyan for the Affinity bonus. Sansi for affinty and heal block - could try Warden for more corrosion).

[subtle forge]

Thanks Belisarius. Will give it a try

Update: None of the suggestions worked 100% so I had to change it a little bit. My ships are not as powerfull as yours. It took me nearly 5 minutes with this:
Voron T1, Valerian M1, Sentinel M2, Liberator M3, Salvation M4

Thank you so much for your help 😉

[pseudo olive]

I am slowly working through Abyss normal. I have had to wait for better gear and refits to get through levels (such as getting Heliodor to Refit 2) so I am aware I may just not be able to get past this level yet .
I am looking for suggestions on what to try running to get past level 16 normal bomb boss.

[vivid crescent]

Here’s a couple of my solutions:

Belisarius Deadbeat solution (Hard 16): Rhodium T1, Sentinel T2, Purifier T4, Hayyan (or Salvation) M4, Heliodor B4

Note that Purifier’s speed matters. Needs to go just after Deadbeat.

At lower levels: Heliodor M4, Ruiner, Sentinel, Butcher, Hayyan across the bottom. Kill Hermes first.

[pseudo olive]

Thank you for your help used the units I had from your list and added Apex for decrease attack and got it

[wild basalt]

I need help lv5 corrodium

[vivid crescent]

Belisarius’ Corrodium solution (Hard 20): Meiying M1, Sentinel M2, Hayyan M3, Heliodor M4, Butcher B1

The idea is to have an attacker + buffer middle row, Healer, and tank or Heliodor) also middle row, and then one attacker bottom row that deals with the adds (after the first add dies, you get one bottom, then top, alternating each turn.

Given your Hangar, I would try Stalwart, Apex, Hayyan, and either Yazid or Salvation across the middle, and Butcher bottom row.

Usually with Harvesters, you need to focus on keeping the adds under control, and then think about how to get hits in on the boss sometimes also.

[wild basalt]

Worked a treat... now I'm up to capacitor any tips?

O and first time using salv her heals blew my mind

[vivid crescent]

For Capacitor:
best Corrosion ship M1 - kills the boss
Salvation M4 (deep in hard Abyss needs Security suit, but in normal and to Hard 10 her normal gear will do) - tanks boss all by her lonesome

Bottom row: 2 attackers and a buffer, or best 3 attackers - kills the adds

[wild basalt]

Best corrosion ship being for example ? Not sure of reference

[vivid crescent]

Whichever you have that is best, in a spot like this on its own.

I use Valerian here, otherwise Wisteria, then Crocus, or Yarrow.

[wild basalt]

I only got yarrow how much hacking he need for 100% corrosion rate

I suddenly got overwhelmed by adds n died round 12 xD 41k left

Im at 195

[vivid crescent]

If he got resisted at all, add some hacking.

For a bit more damage, put him in some Decimation gear.

Harvester bosses have passive skills that make them, and/or their adds, stronger each round.

[wild basalt]

Thats why round 8 there seems to be a misshap

2 adds spawn as if my dps misses a round

Stasis is nasty

[vivid crescent]

Well, also - Capacitors Charged skill is difficult to deal with. Summons 2 adds, rarher than his Active Skill’s 1, and also Taunts.

So, there’s an extra add to deal with, and all your guys are shooting the boss. Plus the adds are tougher each round.

So, yeah, tends to fall apart after his Charged Skill.

Worse, the more adds the less damage he takes - 20% less per add, so with 5* adds alive he takes zero damage.

This Boss is the mist challenging in the game. Can appear at Hard 5, 10, 15, or 20 (Hard Abyss cycles each season), as welk as Normal 10.

Don’t feel bad that he’s troubling you at Normal 10 - everyone struggles with this guy.

If you have any attackers that ignore Taunt, they are useful here. Same for attackers whose Pattern will hit multiple adds in a row. Best attackers I’ve found vs him are Xcellence and Meiying (despite the affinity disadvantage), but you’re new enough that they are probably not an option yet.

[wild basalt]

That's my current full roster

Stalwart and butcher I've built and focused on but not sure bout em anymore

[wooden talon]

So I’m trying to find some ultimate implants, I read somewhere that farming hard 4 is a good place. Do I just stay in 4 and keep fighting battles or go up?

Right now I’m on 8/16 battles won but can go to 5

And should I just attack the gate guardian?

[vivid crescent]

Ultimate Implants only drop from Harvesters - the abyss bosses on levels 5, 10, 15, 20.

Farm the highest level Harvester that you can kill consistently (lose a key if you lose the fight).

When you haven’t reached 5 yet, farm the highest level boss you can reach.

Every encounter in Abyss can drop implants, but only Harvesters can drop the Ultimate implants.

[wooden talon]

Ah ok thank you I couldn’t find an explanation for that anywhere I can move it 5 I was just waiting to make sure I didn’t make a mistake thank you!

I just finished clearing 4 all the way

[wooden talon]

So I have Valkyrie but not built I’m thinking her and meying as attackers and Heliodor Makoli and Hermes to get through this. But maybe there’s a different unit I should build to beat it?

[vivid crescent]

With what you have, try:
Meiying, Grif, Hermes, Heliodor across the middle row. Bottom row use Butcher.

Corrodium is Chem, you’ve got two really good attackers with affinity advantage.

One kills the boss, the other keeps the adds under control.

And, Sentinel > Grif in nearly all situations. Should at least make him 50.

[wooden talon]

Ok thank you I will give that a try. Heliodor in the front to take direct damage and cleanse? I will build sentinel next