Update Problems

[fathom field]

heyyyy uh, i hate the ai features with today's (s24+) update. is there any way to decline the update before it automatically updates?

[fallen raft]

Hey there! Jaibee here to save the day! Even though you need the update so it doesn't slow your phone down, you can turn automatic updates!

I believe....

And when the update comes through you can decline the update untill it forces you too.

[fathom field]

well.. no, all 3 of those statements are wrong.

1. i looked in settings for everything under "Update" and the closest thing was turn auto update off, but all that does is make it so it doesn't automatically update on phone startup. i already have that off.

2. I cannot decline. I have a notification saying it will automatically update, in less than 24 hours.

3. I do not need the update. I don't care if my phone is slightly slower. I despise the ai features.

[fallen raft]

Fair enough. But there is a thing where it forces you to update after a certain amount of time

[fathom field]

yes, you are right on that point. that is no help though.

oh

wait, you mean there's no way to avoid the update in any way shape or form??

[fathom field]

wait, does turning the bottom one off stop automatic install?

[inland forge]

if you know how to use adb, disable the packages that are for software updates

or even shizuku

[fathom field]

i don't know how to use those, im even stuck on the first step, i have a newer windows.

is the android update going to be needed for the phone to function?

[inland forge]

no. this works on any android version within samsung and windows. the instructions are from awhile ago but the info is still accurate enough

for this, youd need to go into about phone>software info>tap "build number" 7 times
once enabled, back up twice and find developer mode. turn on usb debugging and give your pc access

[fathom field]

i see

if say i want a future update (like it has major security patches) i dont suppose i can install that without this current one?

[inland forge]

no

youre gonna have to install oneui 7 to get those major security patches

[fathom field]

thats my only other concern, like i dont see much to do with basic security levels here, but it does show a security patch level a month newer than what i have

ig im just curious how crucial that is to have / dangerous to not

[inland forge]

youre an average person so youre not gonna be targetted as much. just dont click anything random or whatever

i used to regular a jailbroken iphone here and there and i had 0 new security patches. it didnt affect me in anyways because those exploited security patches were for me to jailbreak in the first place

i never got hacked

[fathom field]

alright, also as this is an android update, not just a ui or home update, that means that all of the features aside from explicitly home screen features, will be there even if i use a different homeUI app? such as this feature

[inland forge]

ngl idk what that "4 star icon" is in the first place

[fathom field]

it means like

[inland forge]

unless thats the galaxy ai button

you can use a different launcher if you hate how oneui 7 launcher is layed out

[fathom field]

yeah, it adds stuff to this menu

[fathom field]

no im just curious whether that kind of feature (like an ai summarize on the text option menu) would still exist in a different
home launcher

[inland forge]

do you mean keyboard?

lemme go find my s24 and ill show you what that thing looks like

[fathom field]

like this menu

[inland forge]

this is what it looks like now

[fathom field]

yeah, im curious if that star would still be present if i were using a different ui home launcher

btw i appreciate the help

[inland forge]

yes if will

it's not gonna be removed with a different keyboard or a different home launcher

[fathom field]

alright, im doing this but just wanna make sure i dont mess anything up

ive downloaded the setup file, so do i run that once connected to my phone? do i enable debug mode before that? do i have to worry about installing drivers? and im confused because steps 1 and 4 are both just connect phone to pc

[inland forge]

enable usb debugging before or after, doesnt really matter but it needs to be enabled to use adb shell. drivers should be there because windows 10/11 is different from 7

[fathom field]

alright and i run the setup exe while connected to phone?

[inland forge]

you couldve ran it at any point lol

you couldve installed it at any point. you just needed to have that so you have adb installed

[fathom field]

oh, so that is the command prompt

i am so lost... it doesn't work

is this the right setting? the phone is just charging from the pc

[inland forge]

you did that with caps

once you do adb shell, you should see a thing on your phone asking for access if you enabled usb debugging. accept it

[fathom field]

i did

wait i got it

[inland forge]

no you didnt. that "device unauthorized" tells me you didnt give it access when it asked

you do the pm whatever when you get into adb shell

[fathom field]

my bad, i just had to type it again once id given permission

it works, thank you man, you are a life saver

one last question, do you know if this google play system update is something separate or the same as this android update? or the same

[inland forge]

its a separate thing. thats why its separate from security updates. how long youll get updates depends on googles support for android 14 (so you got a while)

[fathom field]

i see, i can't click either of them, im assuming that's intended so ill undo what i did, update that one, then redo it

[fathom field]

wait does the greek checkmark mean it's already done? i undid what i did in the command prompt and i can now click the security update but still not the google play one

[inland forge]

maybe? try to find the google play service updates in the about phone>software information thing and tap on it

i never check my system updates for google using samsungs thing

[fathom field]

it says jan 1st, so no

im guessing the update is tied to the android update then

[inland forge]

yeah idk how or what happened to your phone to do that

[fathom field]

play store itself is up to date

[inland forge]

wrong. im stuck on feb 2025 on an april update

[fathom field]

my guess is that this specific one is tied to android update maybe? because the green checkmark + the fact i cant click the update seems to imply it just needs the ui security update first, idk

[inland forge]

doubt it

[fathom field]

then whats the green checkmark even mean 😭

[fathom field]

my bad, i realized it means it's downloaded and needs a restart to install

[inland forge]

now does it open?

[fathom field]

no

i did turn on the adb first though

[fathom field]

any ideas? or do i just not update it and leave it at that?

oh or should i turn off the adb, then restart the phone so itll update the google play? or would that update android too..

[inland forge]

turn off dev mode if it interferes with normal stuff. id risk updating your phone but you killed the process so it shouldnt update the entire phone

im talking like bank or fortnite or whatever

[fathom field]

oh- ive had dev mode on for a very long time, i turned it off and restarted the phone and it still didnt update the google play

does restarting your phone in general install android updates?

[inland forge]

not with s24

you have to press install now to install android updates

[fathom field]

ok, bet

unrelated but if i disable and then reenable developer mode, are the settings id changed saved?

[inland forge]

no

i thought you didnt know what dev mode was cuz you were confused earlier

[fathom field]

i was confused on adb stuff 😭

alright, i turned that off and dev settings off and restarted the phone, but google play did not update

[fathom field]

how do i even install it?

[inland forge]

ngl idek what you even did to your phone

the only way i know how to fix that is backup and factory reset