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#[Chisato Nishikigi] New Unit Megathread
supple hill
weak steppe
except for Surface Content where meta 
supple hill
i hope we get full y1/y2 rerun this year
so i can finally get smary
and maybe sneon
weak steppe
Speaking of which, did Lorax ever give us the surface content skill for Chisato? I pinged him for it but never got a ping back 
weak steppe
@surreal lintel 
Sorry to ping again
I don't think they'll drop surface content, so I want to make sure that I don't tell union mates to skip these units without making sure they don't have important skills
weak steppe
Yeah, Kurumi as well
Considering we have 2 SR units with important surface content skills
Most of the collab units had weaker versions of the skills, but gotta be safe
With 4/5 of exploration movement speed buffers being seasonals
brazen wraith
other than the fact that I can't kill it at 601 sync
camping before 44-36 rn
Altruia is a pretty cool boss design
neat meadow
ELE ATK 2-3x AMMO btw
weak steppe
601 sounds like a nightmare
brazen wraith
chapter 36 46 won't come till April or something, right?
I got time
happy with 102/h
brazen wraith
minor typo 
for the raid and for the future
should I build up Chisato or Takina, if only picking one
weak steppe
Takina is a supporter in name but closer to functioning like EunhwaTU
brazen wraith
that 5sec damage taken on 15sec active cooldown from takina
is going to get annoying to minmax
weak steppe
Sadly, she'll want rocks
frank pagoda
barren jasper
that 5sec damage taken on 15sec active cooldown from takina
is going to get anno...
they really said hey we heard you liked old SW gameplay
no treasure miranda yulha malding
median hemlock
What if we mixed novel and yulha gaming
lofty lagoon
We got enough info yet?
Final conclusion?
Shit? Dogshit? Garbage? Doodoo?
silver fossil
How good is the new True Damage cube?
Does it power up others a lot more, like Ada, Jill, etc?
And how about Chisato with the cube?
True damage cube at lvl 1 is 7.07% just like piercing cube
So, I'm assuming it'll be the same at lvl 7
Which is... 14.14%
jade sierra
the cube is good on chisato because smg has a short reload time, so the ammo uptime buff from resil/bastion isn't a big deal
frank pagoda
shit game
barren jasper
Moran
neat meadow
True damage cube at lvl 1 is 7.07% just like piercing cube
Next boss has parts
Neither
Chisato counters Moran HelmTr somewhat
SpA attack
She blocks Helm burst and bullies Moran
weak steppe
Invulnerability means Helm can't snipe her if timing lines up
And true damage means Moran DEF buffs are invalid. DR can't be countered tho 
weak steppe
Didn't say untargettable 
neat meadow
Didn't say untargettable <:thonk:888230093267304558>
I think its just perspecrive issue. Cus u say timing is bad, Id say timing is right
weak steppe
If timing is bad for Helm 
neat meadow
From Chisato's perspecrive, its good
lean perch
in the upcoing sr would it be better to invest raven ?
silver fossil
So what was the consensus on Chisato?
OP must pull SSS tier, or "choose your poison" S tier, or "flip a coin" SS tier?
weak steppe
Definitely not OP must pull SSS tier
weak steppe
Important pickup for those focusing iron since she's on the Raven/Eve/Julia side of "doesn't pierce"
lean perch
she is pull but 
weak steppe
But I don't think there should be a consensus until we see how the raid gimmicks work
silver fossil
So basically S tier, good by virtue of lack of options not that she butt-bumped others off the main teams
weak steppe
For all we know, SWHA and Liberalio may outdamage her unless she has like 90% element 
Depends on how much the raid version of Altruia abuses the DEF up
There are too many situations where the SR version of a boss differs from the campaign version for the campaign version to be reliable
My stance is that Chisato is fire Asuka-tier. Relevant now but vulnerable to quickly vanishing
True damage gimmick gives her a bit more PvP/campaign relevance in niche situations, but that's about it
Definitely better than Jill tho
silver fossil
It does feel like ShiftUp has settled on Abnormal being masters of true damage, but that could be just a recent trend.. might change in the next collab
weak steppe
True damage is an easy way to sell characters for one-off raids
Just slap +400% DEF on a boss and most of our well-invested DPS units cry
SW usually mogs the competition in iron-weak raids, but Altruia is basically a middle finger to her
silver fossil
It's one way to keep all Abnormals relevant I guess, somehow
Too bad for the very old ones like Power, though
weak steppe
who?
silver fossil
Neon's grandma 
neat meadow
My stance is that Chisato is fire Asuka-tier. Relevant now but vulnerable to qui...
Better
ReiT tier
neat meadow
ReiTN has advantage in that she buffs Wasuka <:delugiggle:784954888273920020>
Chisato has the advantage of Ada and Takina
weak steppe
I have no confidence in Takina as of yet 
silver fossil
Poor Frima. She needs a Treasure 2
barren jasper
The only thing true damage units are good for is killing those cringe ass 1 DMG balls in campaign but chisato can't do it because she's single target
At least my vesti goes hard
burnt cosmos
Poor Frima. She needs a Treasure 2
I am hoping Frima is usable this raid
median hemlock
Nah better to run cdr b1 + ada than run frima + cdr
Only usable if we get a good b2 cdr which wont happen for another decade
Even then u gotta drop takina which prob isn't worth
vagrant crypt
I guess at same investment as Eve, Chisato will deal same damage, except Eve buff teams, Chisato doesn't
shit ass Nikke, at least stronger than Laplace non pierce as I claimed from the start
neat meadow
I guess at same investment as Eve, Chisato will deal same damage, except Eve buf...
Eve has deficated supporte
Liter Takina Chisa HelmTr PrivTr
Lsplace wont get used
Well unless u dont need heals
Liter Takina Chisa LaplaceTr Ada
Or PrivTr
Takina averaged buff is close to 100% true dmg + 6% dmg taken + 3.33%
frail edge
I guess at same investment as Eve, Chisato will deal same damage, except Eve buf...
Worse than Eve is an achievement indeed
lean urchin
I guess at same investment as Eve, Chisato will deal same damage, except Eve buf...
So if full ols she's rapib1 DPS tier
People here were right, 90% of rapi||B1||
smoky bronze
So if full ols she's rapib1 DPS tier
How your Chisato
neat meadow
So if full ols she's rapib1 DPS tier
Her having dedicated supports is important for Raid
barren jasper
I guess at same investment as Eve, Chisato will deal same damage, except Eve buf...
Bro she's dying to Laplace
lean perch
if your iron looks like this do I build raven and try to fix eve or build chisato/takina duo
iron is so mid, I don't wanna invest man
but sr is sr
lean perch
for some reason su didn't give us iron sr's so they didn't get invested, or I was busy during the iron sr so they got skipped xdd
silver fossil
if your iron looks like this do I build raven and try to fix eve or build chisat...
I’m skipping the iron duo. I already full cleared Ultra in Museum at whale high synchro anyway, but rn there’s no compelling need to have a stronger iron unless it’s to flex vanity ranks of top 30-200 
Or if ShiftUp puts in high def gimmick in Union Raid that Laplace can’t solve
lean perch
silver fossil
Well not skip skip.. more like benching them after getting them
barren jasper
i'm skipping iron too
lean perch
iron is the probem not me
silver fossil
if your iron looks like this do I build raven and try to fix eve or build chisat...
Raven is pretty good offburst so might as well fix her, idk that Chisato can offburst, so that’s a demerit to Chisato compared to Raven
You can let Eve stay with bad OLs, she offers support in Iron raids anyway. Like RapiRh + Eve to boost RapiRh’s dmg
vagrant crypt
my Iron is shit but still step 60 possible ultra 
barren jasper
how do you have enough iron dps to let raven off burst?
silver fossil
how do you have enough iron dps to let raven off burst?
The meaning I was trying to convey was flexibility
If in other raids you have offburst spots and already used up all the good units, Raven can be a candidate
barren jasper
yeah you'll be able to flex off burst raven in a year when iron gets the woter treatment and stops being the cripple element
raven good off element too tho
raven must run for electro?
or does electro already have a miranada team?
lean perch
or does electro already have a miranada team?
its ada 
barren jasper
she used to be must run in wind, water, electro, iron but then nayuta and hsw stole miranda in their elements
lean perch
holy I need to build isabel
barren jasper
well why do people play her with miranda then
Full crit on half your damage with crit dmg buff is probably fine at least on no core boss
torpid shore
Full crit on half your damage with crit dmg buff is probably fine at least on no...
Probably to get crit off the burst of damage ein deals at the start of her fb
And then start spamming
torpid shore
you just afk
So with Miranda u just don't shoot?
vale venture
yes
median hemlock
yeah looks like she can do miranda things
why use an example where shes barely critting 
barren jasper
why use an example where shes barely critting <:kekwpepe:817192430381826110>
She's level 1
Getting mogged by grave
supple hill
Full crit on half your damage with crit dmg buff is probably fine at least on no...
the weighting also changes when u have ada buffing
an extra 50% true dmg ontop of her buff can do taht 
vernal pivot
i've done that ein miranda test before a lot and no matter what, ein always does less dmg if u dont shoot
Her gun dmg is high enough that if u afk u lose dmg
Unless if u have 4 black crit dmg lines maybe, idk
supple hill
<:naruhodo:1332681779630309406> i've done that ein miranda test before a lot and...
r u doing it coreless?
vernal pivot
Just did and now i'm getting like nearly equal or negligible diff, prolly need crit dmg lines because i don't have any
supple hill
coreless 1 shot at the end
coreless spam wit no reload
coreless siren focus fire with no reload
1 burst each
supple hill
Just did and now i'm getting like nearly equal or negligible diff, prolly need c...
r u precharging ein and getting the extra bullet off?
thats also crit
i recorded all 3, cover all and ada gen -> burst into ein
supple hill
yea u get the extra big hit at the end 😛
supple hill
and its better than miharaoc because you can aim on fc
better is a strong word 
but yea u do get some control
cuz mihara dmg weighting is very stacked
supple hill
I see i didnt fire the last shot at the end
my crit shot here was like 28m so without it would be 381 which is about the same as letting her cook
could ran the shot a little closer to the end i think but human error expected
2 hits non crit
vernal pivot
when i need to land shots like that my eyes just look at the timer, easier to time
supple hill
idk if i setup her charge dmg before either
i think she gets higher there?
250+80+140 = 470
i should be at like 490 cdmg post overload
vale venture
you guys have to remember the last time this strat was viable
supple hill
you guys have to remember the last time this strat was viable
judge
supple hill
was against definitely not gluttony reskinned
solo raid museum train
🙂
the other fat thing without a core
lean perch
most bosses is a "fat thing without a core"
supple hill
dw guys
vale venture
blame SU for that
lean perch
blame SU for that
I blame jk's alice and rh
supple hill
we hit our quota for electric weak sr for the next 12 months
into the wild
vale venture
lean perch
they saw what happened to ultra when jk's a thing
supple hill
lean perch
and said core no more
supple hill
wym
we went onto chatterbox mat h and stormbringer
all with cores
stormbringer was the breaking point that thing was just alice diff 
lean perch
crown did nothing wrong
loaded statement
supple hill
they made coreless bosses for crown to pass jk's
wym crown would just NTR tia
????
vale venture
she still did
neat meadow
well why do people play her with miranda then
Ada synergy
neat meadow
Probably to get crit off the burst of damage ein deals at the start of her fb
No, its Ada synergy
Ada makes damage proportion skew toward the flying thing
The saucers
So afk is better
KOS BEAT ME TO IT NOOO
@supple hill F U jk
broken hearth
Is chisato worth building?
torpid shore
Skip unless iron raid enthusiast
Pull a copy if you intend to push iron content
Dupes are nice for her, she scales well with them but not necessary.
jade sierra
do we have chisato+takina pairing test result now?
vale venture
do we have chisato+takina pairing test result now?
check the other megathread
jade sierra
ok so not gonna bother with using selectors for her
faint vapor
neat meadow
Skip unless iron raid enthusiast
Pull a copy if you intend to push iron content...
But Altruia Campaign BiS
- Pull if you want to land on Altruia's lowest CP clear leaderboard. Not sure why you'd do that.
torpid shore
But Altruia Campaign BiS
You won't be building one unit for a boss
That means you'd be building Vesti for ziz
vagrant crypt
actually you build Eunhwa for Ziz
I don't even know which clip you are watching but it's Eunhwa who breaks 4 eyes, not Vesti
errant rapids
I wonder if anyone has tested this character at AI Ultra.
vale venture
yes scroll up
errant rapids
Really, I'll take any advantage over Ultra's absolutely stupid DEF boost per phase.
Seems from the results I've seen, it looks like if you get her, she'll be pretty major for Ultra.
silver fossil
Seems from the results I've seen, it looks like if you get her, she'll be pretty...
AI Ultra? That Ultra?
errant rapids
Yes, Anomoly Ultra.
silver fossil
I’m surprised, I suppose you have a newer account and a sparse roster? Or elusive on recruiting units like Red Hood and Rapi: Red Hood?
errant rapids
Nah, I have both. I'm just curious as to how much the true damage could help with the BS defense boosts.
silver fossil
AI Ultra basically has a finish line. Everyone just gradually ages into overwhelming victories
warped coral
she wouldn't be doing more than redhood in ultra thats for sure
silver fossil
You do need strong Iron units though, and Red Hood + Rapi: RH are enough
Assuming you just needed stage 7
errant rapids
I mean, I saved that horrid boss (and Indivilia) for last in terms of getting to stage 7 and/or beating them.
warped coral
ultra is easy now
just build redhood rapi
redhood does just as much dmg as rapi
pierce vs non pierce 😭
altho ultra ai isn't perma core so redhood can do even more if it was museum boss version
errant rapids
Yeah it's the core gimmick that annoys me about this.
warped coral
ultra core thing is dmg based
if u aren't getting core to respawn after the first one u aren't doing enough dmg
need 90/40 rapi, 90/20-30 rh to kill ultra low dupes
errant rapids
What is that supposed to be, ele/atk?
warped coral
yes
those were my stats when I first killed it with a 18% attack siren
if u just want stage 7 then don't even need all that just bosses with high def u need higher attack ols
or mast to help u
errant rapids
Pretty much you have to HARD invest in RRH and Red Hood to beat this thing.
warped coral
just like any other bosses....
indi being the hardest investment required boss
anyways chisato is not being out pierce units in ultra even laplace will do more
boreal zealot
giving chisato S in story is quite crazy
prydwen rating overshoot, even with takina as pair
no AoE is too detrimental
neat meadow
no AoE is too detrimental
she needs AoE to complement her
and we did mention she needs someone to complement her
also Altruia
neat meadow
giving chisato S in story is quite crazy
TVesti cant even kill boss without someone like Ada complementing her
S is fair, SS+ are definitely better than her
Anyhow all Campaign Boss units are S+.
Unless we count XDiesel
and Jill
and Tacticals
Tacticals deserve better ngl
boreal zealot
TVesti cant even kill boss without someone like Ada complementing her
without vesti you cant kill mobs, without ada you miss atk buffs to deal dmg
so its siren/cdr b1 takina? chisato vesti ada?
and btw what deficit is it to even consider this
45%+?
reason just to not use rapi or crown
I just think its building a unit for altruia
takina can buff yes, stun too, but... chisato is just smg without AoE, into high deficit for 10 seconds per fb. the 44 shots into true dmg is on a single unit, and dont me wrong I tried using her in tower for testing. Both as matter of fact, they arent good compared to just using the usual gals
the only usable would be takina, but as a buffer no less, with crown still being used because you need the shield and taunt to survive deficit. Just because vesti alone can kill bosses, doesnt mean chisato can make it to the boss wave. if using chisato just a boss killer on the stage, why not just use someone else
boreal zealot
because non true dmg options are better
neat meadow
LOOK at what's in S
neat meadow
there is Grave there
neat meadow
Asuka is literally the only one relevant there
neat meadow
takina can buff yes, stun too, but... chisato is just smg without AoE, into high...
who is the usual gals
who are u comparing to
boreal zealot
I disagree with the rating but ultimately its yours
neat meadow
You gave no context
You gave no argument except 45%+
which is NOT true
since S alr struggle at 35%+
boreal zealot
neat meadow
Asuka is the only one that... can push.
boreal zealot
well since its 35%
neat meadow
Don't say SS+ units.
neat meadow
S can push but will struggle after some point.
You didn't answer my question yet.
Stop dodging.
I asked, who is better than her?
In S and below.
boreal zealot
sdoro can, in water weak kinda
cindy not really can be usable
mod is powercrept unless fire weak
scarlet trina ig? needs electric weak
sanis can work with priv now
asuka you said so yourself
laplace is actually better than chisato for pushing
neat meadow
And Chisato can in Iron-weak.
neat meadow
Then we will push Lap.
So the problem is Lap here, not Chisato.
Also Lap cannot take cover.
boreal zealot
others in A also need to go down then, such as mod scarlet and cindy
neat meadow
others in A also need to go down then, such as mod scarlet and cindy
They're NOT in A.
boreal zealot
what team you think she is in
boreal zealot
boreal zealot
They're NOT in A.
actually typo its should go down to A
neat meadow
Yours? And complaining about mine?
boreal zealot
not really, typo
neat meadow
Anyhow, your argument was... the units in S are similar to Chisato.
boreal zealot
side note with takina ein can go to SSS story
neat meadow
So Chisato in S is not wrong.
neat meadow
sdoro can, in water weak kinda
cindy not really can be usable
mod is powercrept ...
Which according to this, it's not wrong.
boreal zealot
I could just say its time for revamp again, which is a eternal work in progress
neat meadow
No revamp.
boreal zealot
ok
neat meadow
This TL was agreed upon by 4 members of the team, so revamping after 1 month feels wrong.
boreal zealot
I think she belongs to A in your TL without any change, aside from just being dead weight until boss appears
if there are 3 waves of mobs she struggles dearly without help of other teammate with AoE
neat meadow
And A units can't even kill boss.
Weight whole stage.
That's the difference.
Only Lap can.
and SW, Maxwell.
So I will talk about this first.
boreal zealot
if not high deficit
neat meadow
With Retro.
neat meadow
and SW, Maxwell.
And these don't have True DMG.
boreal zealot
but we are not in high deficit, so?
neat meadow
How high is high?
boreal zealot
37%+
neat meadow
37% for what tier?
boreal zealot
normal deficit is maybe 25% upper for 90% of players
thats the problem with "high deficit" tiers
man this sucks tbh looking at it
you could cut vesti rapi ada ein into SSS and then everything else is just C realistically
neat meadow
you could cut vesti rapi ada ein into SSS and then everything else is just C rea...
Where is your TL
Let me see
boreal zealot
those 4
neat meadow
Where
neat meadow
Bro u gave A, S, SS S+ without TL
so its just random letters
with no basis of comparison
boreal zealot
im based of your tier on feedback for prydwen not my own
neat meadow
you could cut vesti rapi ada ein into SSS and then everything else is just C rea...
Tiers are cut based on weaknesses.
boreal zealot
compared to your tier in S and A I think chisato goes to A, and no change
neat meadow
As I said, I will talk to Retro about this and Klo.
boreal zealot
sounds good
neat meadow
If both unanimously say A, then I will move her down.
If both are unsure, I will keep her in S till they are sure.
u deleted msgs... man
silver fossil
I think it's somewhat moot in the end
Besti Vesti is a monster
She sits on the true throne of true damage and nobody is coming close, not Chisato for sure So why bother with Chisato?
At least, not in that specific context
barren jasper
true damage is only useful for campaign because that's the only place they can put all the infinite defense trash
true damage is too polarizing for raids
the only way to make true damage good is to make every other damage do no damage but if all the enemies with infinite defense are mobs because they can't reasonably make infinite defense bosses then you really don't care about single target true dmg
trim fractal
true damage is too polarizing for raids
but what if the game changes
and true damage becomes viable
barren jasper
and true damage becomes viable
your c7 rem will be viable soon trust
trim fractal
you could cut vesti rapi ada ein into SSS and then everything else is just C rea...
how isnt cindy sss but ein is
trim fractal
your c7 rem will be viable soon trust
when did she come out
boreal zealot
if true dmg becomes the only way to progress or score is all raids the game is pretty much shit
boreal zealot
how isnt cindy sss but ein is
cindy burst is a fake AoE
altho yes she does a lot of dmg
its just too rng to consistently work vs mobs
she works in electric weak due to her normal atk doing a lot of dmg if on average deficit(20%-30% or lowerish), but she suffers on the double on stat loss when going higher% as her hp gets cut too, not only atk
trim fractal
oh high deficit i was able to beat boss i wouldve never beat with ein and my cindy wasnt as invested as my ein
boreal zealot
bossing is different than mobbing
trim fractal
so boss isnt factored into campaign tiering at all?
Campaigj is basically just "mobs"
boreal zealot
thats what the BOSS tierlist for
trim fractal
o
yikes
my perception has entirely changed
....
bro
then why isnt nayuta SSS
boreal zealot
in mobbing?
boreal zealot
because crown is a tier of her own
barren jasper
if true dmg becomes the only way to progress or score is all raids the game is p...
the only way to make true damage good without bricking the entire game is not to put any mechanics that support true damage and just make ridiculously high true damage up buff supports
because true damage up is just attack damage up
barren jasper
attack damage up but more restrictive and higher humber
boreal zealot
just to "powercreep" 🚮
barren jasper
they'll probably do something like that just to kill crown
but sustained damage works the same way and they didn't do this with it
boreal zealot
crown only gets powercrept when another unit gives more attack and also the teamwide shield
can give better buffs and be 20 sec, if no shield crown still top 1
trim fractal
but its possible they change the game no?
maybe 5% chance?
1%?
has it been done before?
trim fractal
oh its never been done
barren jasper
has it been done before?
this is literally just rem copium
boreal zealot
because if they change the formula, most ppl will quit lol
imagine all the people that spent on building all units so far
trim fractal
this is literally just rem copium
I didnt even know they did a rezero collab
boreal zealot
well too bad, now you need to build from 0
barren jasper
people see gimmicky kit on fomo unit and think it has to be good eventually
and then it isn't
boreal zealot
people see gimmicky kit on fomo unit and think it has to be good eventually
takina be like:
vagrant crypt
even ein true dmg is only half of her total dmg
trim fractal
because if they change the formula, most ppl will quit lol
or they can just make true damage bosses more frequent like the one thats supposedly the next raid?
vagrant crypt
a unit with, let's say, SWHA level of true dmg means she can kill every single boss in campaign
boreal zealot
solo raid true dmg is meaningless because no deficit
vagrant crypt
boreal zealot
the forever "when" and never "is"
boreal zealot
a unit with, let's say, SWHA level of true dmg means she can kill every single b...
"make all team damage be true dmg for 10 seconds on burst"
and give it also 50% dmg taken!
vagrant crypt
back in Destiny Child day, DoT dmg was treated as true dmg cuz it ignored def
and no one used DoT dmg against boss
boreal zealot
55% clears back to back on every single battle
boreal zealot
if true dmg cannot be high %, or not we can cope
vagrant crypt
hell, even campaign (yes, DC had super insane campaign mode)
which is pretty much OC these days
boreal zealot
would be pretty interesting to see a pilgrim that does true dmg and needs takina and ada as supports to work
meaning every new players is forever fucked beyond reason
vagrant crypt
no I mean completely power crept Takina
vagrant crypt
Shitsato is just bad, ignore her
boreal zealot
or anyone truly limited
boreal zealot
boreal zealot
firesuka SSS all over the place
vagrant crypt
boreal zealot
then nowadays[
vagrant crypt
she dealt pretty insane dmg against Stormbringer not gonna lie
boreal zealot
A or S at best, 0% use in fire raids almost
vagrant crypt
yeah
boreal zealot
will prob be powercrept this year too
trim fractal
how is chisato S for mobbing when she uses an smg?
boreal zealot
100% will actually
that is for prydwen review to tell you, for worse or best
imo she is shit but eh, whatever tickles your fancy
vagrant crypt
still, I need eh, Milk D Grave Asuka Rei to even tank Stormbringer
boreal zealot
just wait for sync 1001 for shitbringer ngl
trim fractal
whens the next collab coming for nikke
boreal zealot
september if they follow schedule
oh wait no its just 2 collabs this year
no idea
vagrant crypt
how is chisato S for mobbing when she uses an smg?
she's hovering between A and S, I wanted to put her on A though, but S is also acceptable if she manages to land shots (needs like 20 - 30% more Hit Rate from OL)
trim fractal
oh wait no its just 2 collabs this year
oh then i might be tripping but u can mostly pull every unit that comes out in a year of nikke if u skip like 3 trash ones
vagrant crypt
in where?
campaign or bossing
I do feel like Moran Takina Besti Laplace Ada is not bad either but need to put it in practice
definitely not me or my friend's acc, we are way ahead
boreal zealot
campaign laplace
she is pretty good with takina to push iron stages
altho might as well just use rapi
just a option that now works
weak steppe
oh then i might be tripping but u can mostly pull every unit that comes out in a...
That depends highly on luck
200 pity is too expensive for every unit 
neat meadow
so boss isnt factored into campaign tiering at all?
It is
Campaign Bossing is factored into both Tier Lists
Per Snake's voice
But Chisa and Laplace are BiS for the same boss, so...
If any, Laplace is going up to S, but we are currently discussing
He's not from Prydwen and pretends he knows how we decide our tiers
boreal zealot
I wont partake anymore in your TL feedback 
pretend is quite harsh, you knew better, how sad
vagrant crypt
neat meadow
I wont partake anymore in your TL feedback <:Shrug:1303543429745213511> pretend ...
Ok, not pretend. Maybe assume. I didn't mean pretend as harsh, sorry.
Also I deleted the message because Retro changed his mind.
And from now on, Retro will be the one deciding Campaign tiers. I used to be the one deciding, and the team gives inputs. For now, Retro will be the one deciding Campaign because he knows best, and I will relegate to giving an input.
neat meadow
oh nvm one guy is
weak steppe
Top 3 on Day 1 is hardly a measurement
I got two accounts into NA top 50 with basically practically full auto (just breaking parts/QTEs)
reef vortex
I got two accounts into NA top 50 with basically practically full auto (just bre...
Aight
how was Chisato's performance ?
in your view
/ SR tops
weak steppe
how was Chisato's performance ?
Without Takina, 
With Takina, very comfortable unit as long as Shift Up continues to hate pierce
weak steppe
Extremely easy to use unlike most Iron units, but she could be easily replaced
reef vortex
boss with Piereaable parts = No go for Chisato?
Meaning she's not even good for Ultra AI?
weak steppe
I personally haven't tried her there and haven't invested beyond 7/7/7
cuz iron is my dump element
Of the two units, Takina is definitely the better pickup
Can't remember if that was Ultra or shooting range
but that's a C7 heavily invested Chisato
Considering most people aren't going to do more than MLB on her, I don't think she's worth a ton of rocks
7/7/7 and 4x ele then sleep 
Chisato had 81.3% usage in solo raid, which is on the weaker end for a raid feature DPS
However, her synergy with Takina put her into T2 (only slightly above SW comp)
reef vortex
However, her synergy with Takina put her into T2 (only slightly above SW comp)
Even when Takina isnt good
neat narwhal
