[Velvet] New Unit Megathread

[normal verge]

velvet bursting?

yes

[wooden compass]

Yes

[normal verge]

@wooden compass

Their OLs

[thorny mason]

Mamamia

Her wallpaper is a masterpiece

[gleaming drum]

Give me liberation rework. PLEASE

[glossy portal]

Yes

[thorny mason]

Ig now with velvet this makes an "independent" wind team too that could be decent in SR neutral ?

[thorny mason]

🤤🤤🤤🤤

[glossy portal]

Neutral SR teams should be dead by the mid of this year

[quaint bay]

Never

[thorny mason]

Not everyone has the invest to have good ele on all specific units for each ele

[quaint bay]

it's all I have to look forward to aside from main story updates and anni events

[normal verge]

I think wind gonna be.. Maids/Sbs/lib,, Siren/crown/helm/velvet.. Nayuta/miranda?.. some team with asuka/rei and then shotgun team with bunnies.. A new wind unit could change all that tho i guess

no wind unit got favorite item kinda sucks

[quaint bay]

Siren/Crown/Wasuka/Rei/Velvet unless next feature has better synergy somehow

No point having Helm there

[normal verge]

more damage if velvet is bursting

[umbral widget]

neutral is kinda bad unless ur missing units

u can see siren/nayuta priority drop pretty harshly when neutral

with regards to how much ur worried about their dmg

[thorny mason]

As f2p is hard to be competitive on all ele anyways

Even for whales

[obtuse comet]

I mean, element advantage trump mlb

[wooden compass]

im back

[wooden compass]

stronger than asukaw comp lol

[wooden compass]

do u have Label invested?

[normal verge]

no i skipped

[rain heart]

O_o

[wooden compass]

can try with RH B1?

instead of Crown

[rain heart]

tried a team 5 against Blacksmith
Xlud Siren Nayuta Mihara

last slot Red Hood vs Velvet

Velvet clapped Red by 400m

damn

[haughty flint]

Hugs

[short marlin]

guess in short she was like chime to siren?

[wooden compass]

Siren Treasure

[glossy portal]

https://youtu.be/2L7mDt2aeNU

[short marlin]

yeah, fair

like trina to scarlet, but siren is already good without her, now she got mega buffed

[spice torrent]

@wooden compass i was told my snake to ping you

[wooden compass]

Wat is this

[spice torrent]

velvet calcs

vs mast and crown

[glossy portal]

It is this pretty much translated

[wooden compass]

I only need this

[wooden compass]

How to decipher this even

We know Siren Nayuta SBS Lib Velvet is best for outside SR

im talking about SR

MirandaTr Nayuta Maxwell XDiesel take one slot

Siren Velvet will take one

SG will take one with Blanc

SBS Lib Maids

and T5 with AsukaW

RRH Crown SWHA AsukaW Ada

or BAde variant

or RRH BAde AsukaW ReiTN Ada

[prisma talon]

i assume her bunny costume will be in a pass

[wraith lance]

Already announced it is

[glossy portal]

Go watch that video above

[quartz dragon]

for those curious, manual Velvet with optimal 4x CS is roughly equivalent to having 5 MGs supporting Siren during full burst (assuming Velvet isn't bursting, obviously)

[prisma talon]

thats rubbish move, oh well

[hot axle]

so uh now we have to manual her so that auto don't do the whole retract animation?

[quartz dragon]

if you allow her to auto with that much CS, she instead equivalent to around 4.3 MGs

[hot axle]

wat about with no CS? 3 MGs?

[quartz dragon]

4.2 MGs no CS w/ manual play
3.6 MGs no CS on auto

[hot axle]

so tldr is to look for ele attack cs max ammo?

[short marlin]

for budget, cs and few max ammo is enough?

[quartz dragon]

this is also comparing against MGs at 60 fps, her ratio will be higher at 30 fps (co-op)

[hot axle]

also is SR5 doll enough? I went and burned most of my stash on centi and privaty

[quartz dragon]

as even with MFRA, MGs only shoot 54 rps at 30 fps

[glossy portal]

Yes

[quartz dragon]

her attack buff isn't that huge, and if you're using her to support siren then her personal damage goes down the toilet

[short marlin]

yeah, i need to save my resource, especially with big update incoming

[quartz dragon]

more doll levels would be marginally more attack and survivability

[hot axle]

Ideal is 4 ele 4 cs 3 attack 1 max ammo?

[quartz dragon]

no clue what her ideal is

[glossy portal]

From the video above

Red = On burst DPS
Green = off-burst support (siren treasure)

[quartz dragon]

she a bit of an oddball in that she has 2 potential build paths

[short marlin]

next update beside of 4 new treasure, there's likely going to be 2 new alt

[quartz dragon]

you can build her as a standard dps and have her burst, which would have no need for CS

or you can have her support siren, which is a completely different build path

[hot axle]

or 2 new limited collab?

[wooden compass]

Velvet didnt burst there

[rain heart]

at least they cook something interesting this year

[short marlin]

i don't think so, i bet collab is like on april or something

[rain heart]

instead of huge dmg mech

[short marlin]

it's first half of the year after all

[hot axle]

you do realize half anni is at the end of that month

[rain heart]

even Label looks interesting too but the shield has 0 def

which is sad

[hot axle]

I'd want it to be in June

[rain heart]

it should share dmg reduction and def of Label

[short marlin]

i forgot actually

[rain heart]

which makes her SS tier DPS in PVP

[short marlin]

then march

[wooden compass]

Siren Velvet HelmTr B3 Crown/Label(Burst)/RH B1 is the best still.

[short marlin]

or may

[hot axle]

that would be right after half anni, or at the very least after the event after half anni

[wooden compass]

Not fully correct because she's likely used as DPS in Wind-weak, where you'd support Siren anyway.
And you can work around low ammo with reload speed.

[short marlin]

either way, next update is going to be the big one, so i try not to carelessly spend my resource atm

[wooden compass]

That's why I wanted PrivatyTr + Crown at first.

[rain heart]

[wooden compass]

Max reload speed.

[rain heart]

7/7/7

[wooden compass]

Can go 4 ELE, 4 ATK, 4 CS.

[rain heart]

not like you lose much lol

[wooden compass]

Go wham.

We will see PrivatyTr's kit first.

[hot axle]

and if we're lucky, 1 max ammo on privaty in full burst

[unreal iris]

Sooo is velvet worth pulling? Or is it a waifu pull

[glossy portal]

Only need 11% cs

[wooden compass]

Also can do XLud instead of Privy, and it's not that bad to reload for a bit.

[glossy portal]

So 1 of those can be max ammo

[hot axle]

is worth 1 copy

everything else is minmax stat or waifu

[wooden compass]

Breakpoints are for guaranteed targets with perfect manual.

[glossy portal]

I will personally go for 3x cs x1 ammo

[wooden compass]

I mean sure.

If you have max reload speed, that ammo isn't necessary, though.

You don't spam her outside FB.

You shouldn't.

S1 disincentivizes that.

Looks small but this contributes.

[hot axle]

maybe like 7/10/x?

[wooden compass]

And u cycle in <2.5-3s.

[rain heart]

we have OC like 5 seasons now

[wooden compass]

7/10/10 if DPS.

1/10/1 if Support.

[rain heart]

just go 7/10/4

[glossy portal]

4 is literally free nowadays

[wooden compass]

Why is the 7

for Skill 1

Is there a breakpoint

[rain heart]

no, it's too cheap I don't even care

[hot axle]

avoids using level 3 skill materials

[wooden compass]

just go dps then

7 10 7 or something

[rain heart]

tried, dmg looks eh

[glossy portal]

Just go 10/10/10 then

[rain heart]

okay

[wooden compass]

might as well

7 10 10 is fine

[rain heart]

7/10/7 here actually

[wooden compass]

no

u need 10

[rain heart]

her burst is not bad

[rain heart]

but the problem is there are better B2

sadly

[wooden compass]

Just get 4 ELE 4 ATK 4 CS

[hot axle]

let's just hope there isn't a collab anytime soon

[wooden compass]

and pair her with reload speed buffers

easy peasy

[rain heart]

like in Wind weak, you burst Mast maid/Anchor maid
Nayuta
Crown

and without Siren, bursting her looks kek

[wooden compass]

dont go support mode for wind-weak SR

(its good for Tetra tower but there's no Siren there)

just build DPS path

[short marlin]

[wooden compass]

ok support path is better for outside SR

[hot axle]

but muh Alice and BMilk

[wooden compass]

CS doesnt matter if there is no Siren

lol

[rain heart]

her problem is on burst, she's kinda mid tier DPS (think of Grave)

[wooden compass]

wdym Grave

[hot axle]

Grave still gives team buff

[rain heart]

she needs Siren in B1 to really make the most out of it (7 MG speed)

[glossy portal]

PrivatyT might fix that

[rain heart]

DPS

[wooden compass]

its slightly below Nayuta level

[glossy portal]

But until we get her kit

[rain heart]

I mean Grave's level of DPS

[glossy portal]

I am not coping

[wooden compass]

sure ig

[rain heart]

not slightly, it's like 75% of Nayuta

[wooden compass]

Depends on comp

[rain heart]

and Nayuta is not known to be "high DPS" compared to elemental B3 either

[hot axle]

@rain heart would velvet have fit better as a 40s b3 instead of what her kit is now?

[wooden compass]

She is higher than Grave

Is this Grave on what team and with what OL

4x crit dmg?

no one's getting that unless ur name is DON

[wooden compass]

No

actually

it doesnt matter

lmao

if she can B3 dps

shed be meta

[rain heart]

As B3 indeed

[wooden compass]

they tone her down by making her B2

[rain heart]

value will be bigger too

[wooden compass]

so u now have to work around with not having buffer B2

[rain heart]

and her value as off burst DPS is also insane

[wooden compass]

which is possible by using support B3

thing is

Velvet bursting is buffing Siren

so Siren doesnt lose anything

just use support B3

so u dont lose anything from not using buffer B2

this is da way

[rain heart]

interesting B2 for now, just keep her mid ranking until next treasure batch

[wooden compass]

that means no Susuka

[rain heart]

[wooden compass]

no ReiT

[rain heart]

I want a treasure that converts all dmg dealt to true dmg

[wooden compass]

She is S tier at least already right now

[rain heart]

so Frima the goat B1

[wooden compass]

im upping Maxwell

[indigo prism]

[quartz dragon]

she still buffs siren but it's a reduced amount compared to not bursting

[indigo prism]

Whenever it's Wind content, I see Altros

[quartz dragon]

when Velvet bursts she's becomes the equivalent of roughly 2.8 MGs

[wooden compass]

Bursting buffs more

[rain heart]

huh why 2.8

her burst is 30 shot per sec?

[quartz dragon]

40 rps is her weapons fire rate

[rain heart]

oh

[wooden compass]

oh we got scammed

[quartz dragon]

and it takes 50 shots to proc the 300 spend

[rain heart]

so although it said 60 fire rate, it's actually 40?

[short marlin]

[glossy portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231876098808090654/1455212982396256382/ssstwitter.com_1766661631539.gif

[wooden compass]

is this from demo vid or release gameplay

the 40/s

I heard its 60/s somewhere

heh

[quartz dragon]

I might be recalling 30 fps testing, I'll need to double check that at 60 fps but I'm at work atm

[wooden compass]

40 + 40/50 * 300 = 280 shots per sec though
60 + 60/50 * 300 = 420 shots per sec

thats NOT 2.8 MG though

[quartz dragon]

if it is 60 rps then it's 4.2 MGs

which is also achievable not bursting, and not bursting can go over that

[wooden compass]

that's 4.67MG and 7 MG

which is higher than not bursting

where is 2.8 MG from?

[indigo prism]

Does this one from Velvet stack with basic MGs

Siren + MGs + Velvet tgt work ?

[wooden compass]

yes

[quartz dragon]

oh wait you are right, I divided wrong

so yes, it's more either way

[wooden compass]

bro divided by 100

[rain heart]

lemme test it really quick

3300 ammo spent

[wooden compass]

so 60/s

most likely

[quartz dragon]

yea, I was thinking of the 30 fps test

which for some reason brings her down to 40

[wooden compass]

so she cant hit the 12th trigger

only 11 triggers

sad

so its not 7 MG

its more like 60 * 10 + 300 * 11

3900

[rain heart]

yeah, only 2700 doable

[wooden compass]

3900/10 = 390/60 = 6.5MG

thats twice off burst Velvet

yeah so Siren "doesn't lose anything" from Velvet bursting

maybe she gets more

but the B3 will lose something

so time to send out them HelmTr (for crit buff why not)

[quartz dragon]

or just off burst crown with wasuka and wrei

[wooden compass]

Siren Velvet Wasuka WRei Crown?

that deals less damage

than Siren Velvet HelmTr XLud Crown

wait

no

yeah it did

[rain heart]

turn off all effect and numbers

still 2700

it's tover

[wooden compass]

10.42B

[wooden compass]

11.32 B

That's 1B difference

Siren becomes hyper DPS there

we've got XDiesel + Mihara funnel comps in Fire

now we've got Nayuta + Siren funnel comps in Wind

whats next

[indigo prism]

Release a new unit to buff 0.5 year old Pilgrim is crazy

[wooden compass]

DeltaT powercreep

second fastest after Rem

[indigo prism]

Waiting for treasure

Also I love the way all Iron treasures for now are mostly useless/PvP

[wooden compass]

u want DeltaNT treasure?

already?

[indigo prism]

I mean upcoming treasure

[wooden compass]

Privaty will eat good

I bet

I feel like shes made for this team specifically

[shell dew]

is there a cn version of her?

[wooden compass]

we'll see

[shell dew]

if so she might get cucked

[wooden compass]

Privaty is one of the most popular B3

Helm was too

and was treated well

surely Privaty will too

[shell dew]

I hope moran gets a huge buff

and be playable in pve

[rain heart]

[shell dew]

same level of cope

[rain heart]

cd 40s => 20s

now you can use her in PVE as a protector now

[wooden compass]

@indigo prism Sorry to bother you but do u have DPS Velvet and built Label

[indigo prism]

i dont

No way I invest on Wind

Label is just 1/10/1 no OL

[glossy portal]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-tom-holland-yoink-gif-11346283

[wooden compass]

Me trying to find someone with both Velvet and Label:

[quartz dragon]

mm, looks like that matches my experience but at the same time my Velvet has like 30% ED and 14% atk, she's a 4x CS build so it's going to skew much more heavily towards support role vs dps role in my case so I assumed it was just due to that

[shell dew]

unicorn hunt

[rain heart]

I mean, pulling her is not that hard

[shell dew]

my wasuka is bad but man ppl's wasuka's are worse

[shell dew]

more like crown level buffs from b1

[rain heart]

[shell dew]

make her buff attack based on her max hp

[rain heart]

like 60% ATK buff over 10s?

[wooden compass]

Ada

Velvet Comps

• Wind-weak UR, Wind-weak Singular Team
  Siren Nayuta SBS Lib Velvet

• Wind-weak SR
  Siren Velvet(Burst) HelmTr B3/XLud/PrivTr? Crown/Label(Burst)/RH B1/PrivTr?
  Siren Crown AsukaW ReiT Velvet -> if you don't have DPS Velvet, but this might cost you a lot of damage (we don't know yet)

Liter doesn't work because no caster's ATK buff (lmao).

Privaty's ammo cut can be harsh so be mindful.

[upper citrus]

Bursting Velvet only for wind weak sr?

[wooden compass]

why wud u burst with her outside

[obtuse comet]

She came right after pilgrim banner, so people who already blew their saving miss her, and people who do pull for her right after pilgrim won't have any left for velvet. As for those with crap ton of saving, they will likely skip on her

So yeah, people with both are.....quite rare

[sinful tendon]

I have both

One x10 pull each

I am low on skill books though

So Velvet is 4/7/4 right now

[obtuse comet]

Mods! Arrest this guy for cheating

He stole all my luck

[charred needle]

I spent 120 on label, no label.
Got broke.
Spent another 70-80 on velvet
Nothing.
Finally had to skip past a bunch of bond stories for 20 more pulls,
1 velvet

some people have it too easy and then there are suckers like me

[rain heart]

100 pulls + 200 golden tix for Velvet here

[glossy portal]

I was on a 130 streak without a single ssr since label

[charred needle]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-fart-hold-explosion-red-face-gif-9542860

[glossy portal]

People are just not humble

[charred needle]

Hurts just thinking about it

[rain heart]

first 30 pulls I max Epinel

[charred needle]

Congrats

[rain heart]

when will she have Treasure

[charred needle]

You’re ready for her treasure

[rain heart]

[charred needle]

after eos

[rain heart]

Treasure is a system to make low pick rate char great again

Moran

Centi?

100% pick rate in PVP I don't even know how to say

[mighty bone]

Maybe its time to apologize to velvet

[glossy portal]

Make privaty great

And then give her a bunny skin

🤝

[mighty bone]

What could they realistically give privaty

Will they focus more on her support abilities or her offensive abilities

[glossy portal]

They will add something to her burst ig

[mighty bone]

A support b3 is kinda unique but we do have noir i suppose

Someone suggested cdr

Would that even make sense to give to a b3

[charred needle]

Who plays PvP

[young bluff]

"realistic" isn't the word to use when helm exists

[mighty bone]

Yeah but Helm is SU CEO's Wife

[young bluff]

you can get "qol" like tove that does do a bit more than that, barely anything/effectively nothing for others, or get helm

if it happened once i will not count it out from happening twice, especially with how popular privaty is

[mighty bone]

I said the same thing

And then unkind maid came out and she was dogshit

[young bluff]

...what

bad alone sure but many units exist that are fine with enablers, even though having something enable you means you need others to work

when she was released yeah ig she wasn't great, and then stuff came out to make her a real thing, until she got pushed out entirely. going from meh to good to unused isn't unique

[mighty bone]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I just hope the treasure makes her relevant again and she doesnt end up like Milk or something

[glossy portal]

Milk was DoA

[fading umbra]

Only 3 Elemental lines on siren

[glossy portal]

3 Ele with low values on mine. Maybe I will fix her once the next wind SR comes around

[swift flint]

Velvet still mostly skip, or shift in thought?

[glossy portal]

If you dont care about wind skip

She isn't doing anything outside of Wind Union and Solo Raids

[mighty bone]

Considering campaign is mostly solved at this point, only other content is essentially raid. She's a strong pick for such content so you might as well pull

[normal verge]

Privaty is like helm/drake in that they were all decent units.. they just got powercrept over time.. so its easy to buff them and make them relevant

On the other hand SU track record of turning straight up bad units into relevant meta units is pretty fkin awful..

Its why i was hoping nikke like dolla/sugar would get favorite items

[sturdy trout]

The whole treasure thing is just a plot to give good old designs a real kit so they can give it a gacha skin later

Nobody will buy a gacha skin for crow if she's trash but if she got a good enough treasure they might

[shell dew]

if treasure crow is the first SSSS tier nikke

she would sit lvl1 with no investemnt for me

[bright crow]

How fast does velvet charges burst with siren? Since she triggers her ammo spent skills

[shell dew]

she is 1.3 mg, can't solo feed the burst gen

[golden knoll]

1/10/1 sr5 no ol

less than 500m difff

[ivory pilot]

Is she solid for Tetra tower? I don't have any tetra beside Milk properly invested.
What is the current best team for Tetra?
I wasn't hoping new year Anis will help with my tetra progress

[golden knoll]

atleast no shitty counting to 3

[shell dew]

are your b3's cracked or is it a mid siren

a lot of shitty ol's are running around idk what to trust

[umbral widget]

Would you rather count to 3 or break ur brain with rouge+ rhb1

The 212 combo gets me every time

Or the 213

[golden knoll]

i pref to play one handed or 0 handed

turn brain off 2

[random badger]

Really, all the tetra team needs is a MG Nikke to complete it.

[golden knoll]

[shell dew]

ok, she is just cheaper mmast for ur

and good for sr then

[random badger]

With that bullet pouch mechanic, would Velvet become some kind of pseudo MG when bursting?

[shell dew]

she already is

[random badger]

If that's the case, she could gain a major spot in tetra tower as a desperately needed MG Nikke.

[shell dew]

as a dps?

nah

[random badger]

Just burst with her when you need MG dps (i.e. in case of Glasses)

[primal egret]

just blanc glasses

[random badger]

What about her?

[primal egret]

glasses shield is effectively a damage reduction

guess what blanc's burst does

[random badger]

Increase damage taken.

[primal egret]

exactly

now you do more damage to glasses

[mighty bone]

Where is my Alice treasure sir

[mighty bone]

Follow your heart

[golden knoll]

tried in UR boss, also <500m diff, velvet is now oled tho

siren no dmg diff

33.1 vs 32.8

1 hand gameplay tho

[mighty bone]

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FixupX · Jan 29, 2026, 9:22 AM

Looks like Velvet does activate siren's bubbles

Her consuming her bullet pouch counts lol

Velvet actually a must pull for wind

[quaint bay]

For top players, yeah. She's only a bit of an upgrade from Delta/M Mast, so not a must pull if anyone else already has those units invested

[dusty abyss]

so just the usual 4/ele/att/ammo/cs ? ya?

[quaint bay]

[dusty abyss]

true

[mighty bone]

Nah, you always need 5 teams

And mast can be used elsewhere

[quaint bay]

My point is that Velvet doesn't fulfill a unique role that can't be accomplished otherwise

Calling her a must pull is basically saying pull until you get her and use mileage if you still don't get her by 200. That's ridiculous

By that logic, Delta NT was a must pull since she was also better than M Mast

M Mast is already used with Libby/SBS in SR anyway, so she's replacing Delta/Helm in that regard

It's only for UR where she's replacing Crown/M Mast, and that's assuming someone actually hits wind (and has a union that's either competitive enough or weak enough for that difference in hit strength to make a difference)

[coarse kayak]

150 and get 1 copy

Dog banner

[quaint bay]

Definitely an upgrade

Sadly this account didn't have the luck to get Delta, so can't test with her

Though I'd do that with Crown comp, anyway (which I'll test next)

[mighty bone]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

The Velvet Agenda

[quaint bay]

That's an SR5 7/10/X Velvet. We're not supposed to burst with her, right?

[bronze socket]

yeah don't burst with her in that hyper wind team

what altros said earier u want cs lines and to manual her

to boost siren damage even more

[quaint bay]

[quaint bay]

Manual?

She wants to full charge, no?

My runs were FA, so keep that in mind, I guess. At least, with FA, looks like Delta > Velvet for Crown comp in SR

[bronze socket]

yes but auto delays full charging

if u ever manual helm vs auto

there is a noticable difference

[quaint bay]

Fair

[bronze socket]

look at pins

[quaint bay]

I fell like, depending on the boss, not manualling Siren would cause enough damage loss to make it go even

[bronze socket]

good thing this wind ur boss is auto friendly

[quaint bay]

Indeed

I'll hop on main in a bit and test vs Delta for SR NGE2 comp, though my main's wind units in general don't compare to my alt's

[sturdy trout]

She already has a gacha skin so never ever

[hybrid elm]

Helm

[ruby narwhal]

shes not getting one cause were gonna get overspec alice

[sturdy trout]

Helm got a gacha skin after her treasure

[obtuse comet]

So......that means you have 200 mileage

[hybrid elm]

[upper citrus]

Wasn't it like same patch

[sturdy trout]

What no

It was way later

[quaint bay]

It wasn't way later

Treasure was in Jan 2025, and skin was in Feb 2025

Specifically January 13th for the treasure (Arcana event), and February 20th for the gacha skin (NGE2 event), with the seamaids event sandwiched between

[hybrid elm]

Viper got both at the same time

[quaint bay]

Yeah, Viper got both at same time because her treasure came out of nowhere

[bleak plover]

https://fixupx.com/arcana0993/status/2016804169626304520/en some experiment from JP bro

あるかな (@arcana0993)

📑 Translated from Japanese

Velvet is amazing The ammo consumption from the Bullet Pouch becomes the trigger for "Siren's Ammo Consumption Skill," so Siren's skill activates at a frequency higher than MG Just placing her as a decoration makes Siren's skill activate at the frequency of 4 MGs during burst 😱 #NIKKE #ニケ

Original text
ベルベット凄い
︀︀弾丸ポーチの弾消費が「セイレーンの弾消費スキル」のトリガーになってるからMG以上の頻度でセイレーンのスキルが発動する
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︀︀置物として置いておくだけでバースト中はMG4人分の頻度でセイレーンのスキルが発動する😱
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︀︀#NIKKE
︀︀#ニケ

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FixupX · Jan 29, 2026, 9:22 AM

[quaint bay]

♻️

[bleak plover]

ohh.. it was alr sent here.

mb then

[quaint bay]

No problem

[wooden compass]

Bros late

[wooden compass]

Now thats different

the damage difference from not building Velvet >>> DeltaT

DeltaT had Naga as alternative as it lined up with boss with core

So it was optional. she was not good anywhere else

Velvet can be used in Tetra Tower

has better future potential (if SU releases chg dmg units or we do 2+ funnel comps)

and is guaranteed to bring a lot of dmg in wind-weak assuming DPS built

if u build her as support = optional

if u build her as DPS (which u shud) = must for Wind weak

that optional only has DeltaT as replacement, which costs the same investment wise except Delta no need OL

with that Delta is down to B tier

[hybrid elm]

Give Missilis better tower option plz

[wooden compass]

What rank should Velvet be? A or S?
Should Maxwell be moved to S seeing her increasing use due to XDiesel + double funnel comps?

[sturdy trout]

delta needs crown to live

so if there's ever a team 1 that doesn't use crown you still go back go mmast if you only have delta

[quaint bay]

Use increasing? Maxwell's use (in SR, at least), hasn't seen a particular rise

[quaint bay]

Yeah, and so far the only evidence I've seen of Velvet being good is in a comp that won't even be used in SR

Nor have I seen evidence of Velvet being good as a DPS unit yet

Looks like a bad unit who only has a spark of hope due to her mechanic luckily being usable by Siren

[wooden compass]

You sure

[quaint bay]

Yes, I'm the one who manages the SR usage spreadsheet for top 50 based on enikk.app numbers

[wooden compass]

its increasing

i use enikk

show trend separated by element

if u have the sheet

[quaint bay]

I don't have it set up to split by element atm (that's a good idea tho, so I'll add that)

[wooden compass]

world top 50

[quaint bay]

I do top 50 by all servers for wider sample

[wooden compass]

noooo

5.7%

28%

66%

0.7%

97%

5 prev raids

[wooden compass]

Water Fire Wind Electric Iron

[wooden compass]

Recent is how many

[quaint bay]

5

[wooden compass]

Use world 50

Server 50 is no good

[quaint bay]

lol

Smaller sample is no good

[wooden compass]

Some samples are weaker

Bigger samples with skew

are worse

[quaint bay]

Depends on the objective

[wooden compass]

u can keep NA JP

KR

[quaint bay]

If you use world top 50, Viper looks like a better unit in water raids

[wooden compass]

these three are the leaders

they only use best teams

[quaint bay]

Should anyone heavily invest in her as a result? No

[wooden compass]

barely compromise

[quaint bay]

That's basically useless information

[wooden compass]

its useful

[quaint bay]

For who?

People who already understand the deep meta of the game?

[wooden compass]

why follow someone who compromises?

[quaint bay]

If you want to make a sheet that only states the obvious, go for it

Not that hard to figure out which units will make the best paper math

My objective is to aid people in economically investing, so having top 50 from all servers is superior data

Bready had 100% usage in world top 50, but her usage drops to 87% in the all servers top 50 because Bready's edge over SBS isn't significant enough to warrant heavy investment in her for the majority of players

Better to invest heavily in SBS for wind raids and just wait for Bready to get powercrept by Pilgrims

Velvet is same story. She'll probably end up mandatory for top players but a waste of gems, skill mats, doll mats, and gear exp for most

That's also my basis for comparing her to Delta NT. She seems just as easily replaceable

[wooden compass]

I disagree with this.

When everyone skips Velvet, build Velvet because it's easier to rank.

So, it's the reverse.

DeltaNT is way more replaceable.

Velvet will stay for a long time.

[wooden compass]

Some units benefit from this but some don't.

If the person can infer well, sure, but there is also more noise due to compromise.

[quaint bay]

Then you just get rekt next raid because you don't have the mats (or potentially even the pulls) for the actual raid features

Let's use NGE2 as the hypothetical for the strength level of the upcoming collab. Would you rather invest in Wasuka or Velvet first?

[wooden compass]

Both or skip both

Skip the element instead

[signal cape]

[normal verge]

She's like 5th or 6th best wind dps and buffs/works well with a unit which will be a staple in Wind teams/SR until game EOS.. easy pull if you give a shit about wind SR.. not like wind has a huge pool of units to draw from either.. especially as SBS/LIB are forced together

oh and dear god i hope that collab wont have wind units.. almost as mid as Resi Evil.. actually that's unfair to revil.. its far better

[wooden compass]

@quartz dragon what are her breakpoints

[sturdy trout]

What do you mean 5th or 6th best wind DPS

[quaint bay]

She doesn't seem to be competing with Siren, Nayuta, SBS, Liberalio, or Wasuka, so that checks out

Looked like she was ReiTN tier if you actually stuff rocks into her

[golden knoll]

Who has leftover rocks

[sturdy trout]

i mean that's more of a absolute state thing

you'd probably rather run neutral when your team 4 option is this or mana/ssakura

it's like water before water got a year of actually good units

[quartz dragon]

I mean, she doesn't really have breakpoints unless we want to set arbitrary goals

the "least-cost" CS lines to get maximum possible charge time reduction is 1x T13, 2x T14, 1x T15, but I highly doubt anyone is going to minmax her CS to that extent

[normal verge]

I mean that's what she is? also she buffs one of winds better damage dealers ontop of it..

[normal verge]

I am not gonna min max rei but i doubt that

[wooden compass]

guaranteed 11 shots within 10s

regardless of precharging

[quartz dragon]

not possible without precharging

well

not possible with just OLs

[wooden compass]

if with precharging whats the minimum for auto

ok not 11 shots

more like

wait how fast is her interval

[quartz dragon]

on auto it's her charging frames + 24 frames at 60 fps

charging frames with just CS from OLs will range from 45 to 59 (0 CS lines)

[wooden compass]

manual can skip this 24?

not fully ofc

[quartz dragon]

11 of it, so optimal manual can bring the delay from 24 > 13

[wooden compass]

I thought it was 0.3s delay

when did it turn to 0.4

[quartz dragon]

it used to be 11 frames each

idk when it changed to 12

but I verified the cover timings are now 200 ms each now, I had to use reload speed buffs of all things to do it

[wooden compass]

Auto nerf

[quartz dragon]

yea, I guess to be exact the timing is now somewhere between like 190~195ms

but either way that pushes it up to 12 frames at 60 fps

unless of course that was a mistake and its been reverted since I found that a few months ago

I'll have to retest it to confirm it since SU loves to just randomly change low level things without saying anything

[primal egret]

btw just to confirm are the numbers I pinned from your messages correct still at 60FPS

[quartz dragon]

those numbers were 60 fps

my fumble with 60 fps was for specifically when she's bursting as I forgot she wasn't also 40 rps at 60 fps

[primal egret]

ah

[quartz dragon]

and then dividing by 100 instead of 60 for her bursting calculations

[hushed briar]

I can haz this Korean Link plz?

[primal egret]

#1465645525196996628 message

[hushed briar]

No sheet?

[primal egret]

did you not read the first sentence?

**From the video above **

[blissful dagger]

So is velvet worth pulling?

[velvet surge]

If you have Siren, yes

[sturdy trout]

I still think she's bait

[quaint bay]

Pull at end of banner after we've seen the LycoReco kits

[sturdy trout]

You're probably not running siren SBS lib velvet in SR since Eva2 exists

She's great in UR but who cares about UR

[quaint bay]

Yeah, the only runs I saw of Velvet with the actual Siren/Crown comp had her losing damage overall

[sturdy trout]

Siren crown Eva velvet?

Siren SBS velvet should be at least even unless your siren is a poo

But obviously you have no team 2 if you do that

[quaint bay]

Yup, my quick testing put Velvet barely above Helm as off-burst, which means Delta would actually achieve higher numbers

I didn't try bursting with Velvet and Crown off-burst, which is what I saw people doing in here to get "high" personal damage on Velvet. The total damage dropped tho

Though considering it took me 120-170 pulls to get Velvet on all five accounts, I'm also just pretty salty

If people can lucksacc her in like 30 pulls, sure, she's worth it

but I'm willing to bet top 200 outside of JP/KR is possible without her

and who knows, next wind-weak SR could be 2027

[dusty abyss]

as lucksacc yea she worth

but she really is zzz

[primal egret]

if you use mmast on wind hits yes

if you don't then no

it depends on your own units

SBS does slightly less but siren gets a big increase

if off burst OL seems pretty minimal

[sturdy trout]

siren fraud

[golden knoll]

Most ppl i have seen a few bills but i only got less than 500m

1/10/1 sr5 no ol velvet

[mighty bone]

Not everyone has asuka 🤦‍♂️

Velvet hotter anyway

[muted zenith]

She's trash and I don't regret rolling for her

(she's trash right?)

[quaint bay]

In shooting range, I went from 23 bil to 25 bil

[sturdy trout]

she's UR meta

might be SR meta in a year if wind gets enough units to put siren in a team with charge units without bricking your eva2 team

i'm probably just running delta in eva team

so she has no place

she might be good as b2 dps for team 4 to break qte if you 10/10/10 12/12 her but why not just run a neutral

especially with miranda sw and sg basically being free in terms of team building

[wooden compass]

UR and sr meta

Ur as support, sr as dps with siren (but not EVA 2)

Look for pics around

They hypercarry beat EVA 2

Considerably

Siren Velvet HelmTr XLud Crown is 10% stronger than Siren Velvet EVA2 Crown, both invested. Crown Burst variant is worse for both.

RH B1 variant is around 6-10% worse, Label B1 should be less maybe 4-5%

[quartz dragon]

yea, only issue I have with that is that helm treasure/x lud are also among the supportive B3s that would go with miranda/nayuta comp, though not everyone will invest nayuta to the point of running that comp

I think Velvet is a unit that will ultimately be meta in wind-weak SR as well, I think we just don't have all the units that will be part of that actual team yet

[sturdy trout]

thats what i said

if you give velvet siren helm xlud crown she's probably great but then what do you give to your eva2

[wooden compass]

Xdiesel maxwell

Dont forget

That team doesn't need heal anw alr got Nayu

[wooden compass]

A team 5 with crown or if no crown is fine

Privtr probably fixes this

Rrh crown Asuka w reit/swha ada was my thought

Bade also works

I think swha better here

But on wind sr we will get new DPS anw

Takina chisato could be wind

Shotgun team will be gone

It has no wind dps

Unless takina chisato count as shotguns

It's probably AR

Hmm

Swha could go with Miran Nayuta too but I wont comment on this

HelmTr Maxwell < XDiesel Maxwell for Nayuta imo, at least from overall team dmg.

27% atk dmg 2 rots, vs 25% dmg taken one rot

Xdiesel gives more dmg, Nayuta loses dmg I think

[quaint bay]

imagine both LycoReco units are handguns and Jill-tier

[charred needle]

Dream scenario for me cuz imagine the savings

[wooden compass]

Drama

[gleaming sedge]

velvet 0 OL 7-10-7 vs mmast 10-10-10 full OL?

which unit should i use for wind UR?

[quaint bay]

7/10/X off-burst Velvet will outperform M Mast easily

[golden knoll]

i think a 1/7/1 velvet is matching a triple 10 mast

1/10/1 for sure will beat it

[glossy portal]

Somehow I got 3 charge speed lines on the 3rd line already

The game wants me to go full siren support

[languid igloo]

Can someone Tl;dr wtf this units does?

I'm too smooth brained for this shit

I can only understand units like liter

[bronze socket]

she contributes to siren's passive damage, also buffing nayuta with charge dmg buff

[languid igloo]

So maids are free now?

[bronze socket]

this is union raid only setup

she's off burst, but yes frees up mast

for any other team

[primal egret]

Offburst = big DPS support for Siren and charge damage units
On burst = good DPS + above shit

very good synergy with siren and nayuta like tollkage said and buffs lib more but SBS does do less compared to using MMast

[sturdy trout]

she doesn't buff allies when she bursts

you have to choose one

[shell dew]

I chose 1/10/1 for saved books Pog

[primal egret]

oh right weapon change but still a good dps if on burst

pretty flexible unit though and in terms of being a support minimal investment type it's as cheap as you can get

[shell dew]

on burst she is 7? mg I think

so more dps for siren too

[primal egret]

yeah just no charge damage buff

[shell dew]

no caster att too

[sturdy trout]

that's fine but it kinda cooks her SR

[shell dew]

?

can you elaborate ?

I don't get it

[sturdy trout]

off burst version is good with siren nayuta sbs lib because she buffs all of them pretty well but you're not running that team in SR

on burst at least works with siren + eva2 but you need to build her properly

[shell dew]

in neut maybe she is cooked because no way you use wind dps b2

if we get a miranda wind dps

that frees the nayuta, you can nayuta/siren/velvet for a free wind team

with neut b3's as the worse case

[sturdy trout]

Yeah it's a wind DPS situation

You really want siren, nayuta and SBS+lib to be in three separate teams but velvet wants them all together

[shell dew]

velvet can ignore sbs lib

[sturdy trout]

[shell dew]

probably we still use maids

in sr

[sturdy trout]

In SR sure

[shell dew]

you said sr huh

are we talking about hitting wind twice in ur

I'm confused

[sturdy trout]

She's very good in UR begs you can run all 5 wind DPS together

[shell dew]

kinda tired so I might have missed some points

but sbs is married to maids for total damage

so velvet can still join any siren team for flex

[sturdy trout]

The best velvet siren team seems to be with Eva 2 but that requires her to burst and that's expensive

[shell dew]

why would it

[sturdy trout]

I'm sure you can let crown burst and have her off burst and not lose too much damage I guess

People are saying off burst crown with burst velvet does better damage than the other way around

[shell dew]

nah I saw them

"velvet" does more

and nukes wasuka's dps

[sturdy trout]

I'm sure the difference isn't big so you can go either way

[shell dew]

also her dps is still decent with s1 because burs also loses s1 buffs

[sturdy trout]

But if you're running her off burst and she only buffs siren it seems kind of a waste

Her attack share is poo

[shell dew]

flex slot 1.3 mg for burstgen and like 10-20% ish siren dps buff

[sturdy trout]

Especially since you're throwing helm crown away for this

Obviously freeing helm for team 3 has some value too

[shell dew]

on an ideal world you run helm and a new b3 on miranda but thats kinda

[sturdy trout]

Also that team runs her with crown which means delta is an option

And delta actually helps wasuka

[shell dew]

if we had someone who invested on dsp velvet and delta

snake asked but we found no one

[sturdy trout]

[shell dew]

tbh if we get a b2 that buffs mg's or winds

crown can be freed

[sturdy trout]

Even if she beats delta version it's probably not by a lot and I'm not sure you want to pull and build a unit just to marginally improve team 2

[shell dew]

at that point its delta level of investment

1/10/1 vs 10/1/1

maybe if you wanna use some more wit 7/10 and 1-2 lines

because we know your siren should be good

[sturdy trout]

Yeah but if you already have a built delta you're probably also book broke from 2 wind 10/10/10 units in a row + 10/10/10 pilgrim right after

[shell dew]

tbh we still lacked delta teams on last sr

so I can say at least half of the high score's didn't

yeah just above half

[sturdy trout]

I'm not sure if water raid inflates or deflates delta stats

[shell dew]

thats wind

[sturdy trout]

[shell dew]

water was 0.7

admittedly the sr was not friendly to run with her

[normal verge]

Delta is not overloadwd but skill is max

[kindred hull]

27,985m vs 26,630m for me on fingers

[fallow delta]

Is she better than MMast on kraken team?

Oh I could just look right above

Looks like she might be better since team is almost doing the same damage at lower investment

[primal egret]

manual velvet don't be lazy

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[quaint bay]

I did

[primal egret]

anyways to add to this
MMast vs manual Velvet was a 2.8b difference

[fallow delta]

Damn so MMast still better?

I’m assuming for kraken team

[primal egret]

other way around

on UR Hard level 3 Fingers

[fallow delta]

Well that’s cool too

Since I wanted to put velvet in my team this is perfect

But now I gotta build her

[primal egret]

if you don't want to manual Velvet difference was about 1.8b afking on Siren instead

[fallow delta]

Yeah I’m lazy I’m just gonna auto🤣

[primal egret]

if you plan to use her off burst then you can stick to 1/10/1

honestly velvet is great for how cheap she is to run

[quartz dragon]

it's worth noting that off-burst Velvet might not always be better than maid mast

in my testing, she is roughly parity to, if not worse than, maid mast if the boss has no core

which makes sense, the units she benefits the most in the mono-wind team is Siren and Nayuta, whose charge damage bonus would be scaled by core being present, if there is no core than the crit bonus from maid mast starts to overtake it as she also benefits siren

[wooden compass]

Offburst Velvet = Support
Onburst Velvet = Support for Siren only + DPS

Siren gains more dmg from Onburst Velvet than offburst

Auto is 3.6, auto burst is 6.5, so 2.9mg difference from 9mg current best comp. That is around 34% tdm (from S2, excl. Basic attack)

Ig if u use BAde, Siren still deals more there with 2 MG but...

[umbral widget]

is on burst or offburst better tho

what has highest jps

[umbral widget]

onburst velvet really has to account for her own dmg tho

gotta get them stats up

[glossy portal]

Don't even bother using velvet as an On-burst DPS with no atk or ele

[acoustic wing]

Around how much CS% if i may ask? Because i only remember/ heard about 11% cs + which way of manual is ideal?

[quartz dragon]

the cheapest optimal cs spread for Velvet is 1x 5.51%, 2x 5.80%, 1x 6.09%. You can have at most 1x 5.51% and at most 2x 5.80%, any more of either of those lines and you will be rounding down. But chasing the maximum possible charge time reduction on Velvet is kind of silly when it's possible that she only meaningfully beats out maid mast if there is core available.

[acoustic wing]

im wind main and would love to see all the more dmg siren gets thats why i got curious to maximum potential 😉

thx btw, got one 6,09 atm

[fallow delta]

Lmao velvet not even s tier on prydwen

[heady wigeon]

That does not mean she's bad

She's good, but for wind
She's meta for wind actually

Must pull if you have to hit wind in UR, or have to play wind SR

Otherwise skippable

[fallow delta]

Just figured she’d be higher since she’s like BiS 5th slot for the wind team

But understandable I guess

[heady wigeon]

We put a cap on element-specific units at A tier

[fallow delta]

That makes sense

[heady wigeon]

A tier isn't bad at all, as far as we are concerned moving forwards

[glossy portal]

People need to stop thinking that just because they are not S they are bad

If a new player were to ask me if they should build velvet I would certainly say no

[quaint bay]

S and higher is for units that can realistically do the entire game for you (minus PvP)

That's crazy good

A is still fine, just not worth investing until you have a strong core

New players shoudn't being wasting rocks on her, but vets in competitive unions basically NEED her

[umbral widget]

A stands for average right

[heady wigeon]

Uni told me B is average

[heady wigeon]

Next month I think only half the union will be hitting wind

So not necessarily

For me at least

Also velvet doesn't necessarily work either

You need a good siren

Nayuta helps as well

Cuz for a badly invested siren, pretty sure MMast is better

[acoustic wing]

Whats ideal play style for velvet?

[quaint bay]

True. Unfortunately, I always give my B1s a lot of love, so I have no weaj Sirens to test

[bronze socket]

same as manual helm

well just full charge always tho

don't need to spam at all

[glass lion]

Can confirm. I have a poorly built Siren myself and Velvet helped me reach stage 7 in Kraken 5-6 seconds slower than using Mast.

[opaque flicker]

then how come brid is in S?

isnt she legit just a wind code boss character

aka fire weak

[quaint bay]

She's stronger than Crown/Grave in fire, and her burst is still good, even outside of fire-weak

and in fire-weak, she can be slotted in any comp as long as B1 takes care of CDR

Meanwhile Velvet has to be with Siren basically

Velvet has seriously prospects to become stronger, but the current roster works against her

Particularly, as long as NG2 sticks with Crown, Velvet causes problems. If SU gives us new charge-based wind DPS units that can match/surpass Wasuka/Rei, they'll get kicked to a lower comp and Velvet will probably deserve a tier-up to S

TL;DR: Brid is good no matter your roster, while Velvet is a skip if you don't have Siren

(at least, that's my interpretation; I cannot speak for any of the main tier lists, as I am not involved with their creation )

[opaque flicker]

yeah that was the logic i came up with as well, she may be someone whos fire only but shes the best at it no matter what whereas velvet might not be depending

the thing with that as well is wouldnt u wanna rate a character at top preformance kinda like an alice

shes kinda mid if not used manual

but yeah i dont know all the ins and outs of it so lol

all good

[quaint bay]

I'm a compulsive sorter, so I actually use separate tier lists based on core and element, so I grade units entirely differently than the all-in-one style tier lists

[rain heart]

soon

elementalist is inevitable

we Lux now

https://klipy.com/gifs/lux

[acoustic wing]

[wooden compass]

I think this is a good description I will use thanks

Since I don't think beginners shud invest in SAnis and Maiden

time to drop them to A

Maxwell though is also late game niche meta across 3 elements hmm

[quaint bay]

No problem. I actually have very specific criteria for how I select tiers, as I don't like to bother with moving units that much Can share more in DMs if you're interested (lmk if so, as I need to get motivated about updating them anyway ), but I'll spare everyone that here since it'll end up off-topic

[bitter glade]

Kigitsune, the ever reliable yapper

[quaint bay]

I usually don't talk a lot, but I know my hyperfixations

[coarse bridge]

Velvet kinda trash to roll?

[quaint bay]

If you're a casual player only interested in top 3% at best, you can skip without stressing

If you're competitive, grab a copy as long as it's not breaking your bank

(although, if you're competitive and haven't pulled yet, UR is already over, so just wait until we get the collab banner kits to verify if they're Jill-tier or Wasuka-tier and pull on last day based on that)

Good characters that may never come back > character that can spook you anytime

Especially if LycoReco girls aren't wind

[sturdy trout]

I hope they're wind

The Collab element

[quaint bay]

Wind is tied for least number of (SSR) collab units

[bleak forum]

this req diesel or just mihara rapi?

[quaint bay]

I haven't found a combination where she doesn't win out

[bleak forum]

[quaint bay]

And that's compared to this Grave

For UR, my best damage comp was Rapi/X Brid/Rei/X Diesel/Mihara

(obviously for SR she's in SG comp)

[bleak forum]

she beat my grave too, except core/pierce buff in museum

[quaint bay]

Ah yeah, if pierce is viable, then I could see Grave winning

And of course, Crown provides better defence than both

[sturdy trout]

Yeah but they got the good ones

Waters strongest Collab unit is rem

[shell dew]

w ter

[sturdy trout]

Water got jorked for a year

It's not poo anymore

Also it got the hottest girl in the game

Well maybe second

Liberalio ass and feet still solos

[bleak forum]

found 1, but i think dmg gap cuz my mihara has low ammo
but in 1 1 3 line up, crown always lose

[umbral widget]

did uni have SSS grade tho

when are unis going to catch up with the times

and just measure how good ur grade is by how many S u get

[quaint bay]

C was average at my uni

[umbral widget]

that means ur classmates were soda/xrupee

@quaint bay

[quaint bay]

Man, if I had a classmate with Konomi Kohara's voice, I would've proposed on the spot

[umbral widget]

wait moron is there too

[quaint bay]

Just wait until favorite item

[acoustic wing]

Hope so that collab is not wind

Or weak wind like arena exclusive

[bitter glade]

maybe time for new electric wave soon

[sturdy trout]

electro is kind of garbage propped up by cinderella so it would be really funny if it becomes the new collab check element after wind finally got some competent units beyond sbs

[normal verge]

electric is in a very wierd/bad spot.. probably the worse.. garbage collab units.. Cindy is still good but power kinda waning compared to SW, Rapi.. Then you have units like Isabel/Scarlet that need a personal support that does nothing outside of that.. Scarlet last electric raid wasn't even good either.. Isabel is good but she breaks the shotgun team by taking tove

Wind is in a nice spot so i pray SU doesn't force the new colalb units to be bad/wind units.. Doesn't have a ton of units.. but between SBS, Lib, Nayuta, Siren, Asuka, Rei, Velvet its pretty solid.. can maybe add bunnies in there.. Stuff like mana/sakura are so whatever i am not sure if u even need them invested

[dusty abyss]

I still break out my invested mana whenever I can

[normal verge]

i think she got used last raid.. don't think Sakura did tho.. but my memory is bad so could be wrong

[primal egret]

more like isabel IS the SG team

[umbral widget]

breaks shotgun team by taking tove as a shotgun

[sturdy trout]

How are you gonna run doro

[quaint bay]

Mana 88% top 50 world, 72.7% all servers
S Sakura 52% top 50 world, 40.7% all servers

S Sakura was used in the Nayuta comp, while Mana was in Cindy comp

Helm was the main substitute for S Sakura, hence her lower %

[hybrid elm]

Wysi

[sturdy trout]

Mana is like the fifth best wind B3 dps

Her only having 88% use rate in the giga whale bracket is not very good

[quaint bay]

9th best

Liberalio SBS
Siren Nayuta
Wasuka ReiTN
S Sakura Velvet
Mana

[wooden compass]

Used to be

[wooden compass]

Mana is better than SSakura sometimes

And whats Velvet doing in 8th

Shes better than Wasooka or better than ReiTN

[quaint bay]

Until I see testing that proves that, I'm not believing it

Seems at best equal to ReiTN

Nowhere close to Wasuka

[mighty bone]

Least sure, but they have quite a number of nuclear bombs

[glossy portal]

So, anyone got her to 4x atk 4x ele already?

[acoustic wing]

nope

busy with it

3 ele, 3 atk

1x 6% cs

[primal egret]

no but I've seen the numbers from someone that does

[glossy portal]

[normal verge]

Not 4 attack but close

[coarse kayak]

[shell dew]

THAT HAS A DARK MODE ?

WHERE

[primal egret]

some dark mode extension

[coarse kayak]

Lol