#[Soline: Frost Ticket] New Unit Megathread

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rare spire
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And decent chance Soline will get added to pool for Xmas event patch

pseudo pollen
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definitely not worth rolling

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still SR only usage

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and at best still for comfort on your team 4/5 comps

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mind you she ain't healing you unless you're under 15% health still so you might just also die anyways and 0 comfort in the end

civic basin
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How immediately bad was the description debut?

rare spire
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She can heal via burst thonk

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Surviving to the end is worth missing one burst from the other B1

craggy garden
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If you're barely not surviving so you only need a little bit of healing, you could probably just one of the units that just passively heal from shooting

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She's a dead slot beyond that so you might as well run Rapunzel or something

formal swallow
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i think rapu would be better, no need to edge to 15% hp

craggy garden
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Even bunny Alice would be better kekmorbL

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She has passive healing, you can blow her burst if you need a panic heal except it doesn't brick an entire full burst and she kind of technically increases your damage by buffing burst generation

craggy garden
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The only reason you'd run soline over bunny Alice is if you're running her in Cindy for some reason and you don't want to buff sanis ammo

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Or if you're a DPS soline coper kekw

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She's probably better than Alice in sg if you don't want bsoda but Tove and Miranda are the only B1 units without cdr

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So you basically just have those two options and you can use literally any B1 CDR in that slot

formal swallow
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people just gonna pull her for ๐Ÿ˜ญ that all

craggy garden
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DKW gives small buffs which might be marginally worse than DPS soline in shotgun team if it's water weak and you rolled 4 ele 4 ammo

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But the difference is pretty small and it dkw doesn't cost 100 rocks

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Miranda team doesn't even give you the shotgun buffs copium so just run DKW/rouge like a normal person

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Shotgun can also run Nayuta as b2 healer now so you can also run DKW and not cry about no healing

leaden moss
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maybe there's a strong 40 sec b1 buffer that can pair with soline?

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esp if the b3 that bursts on soline rotation is just a buffer for your main b3

ripe linden
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In water weak

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And 4 ele isn't 100 rocks

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Cuz u get like 70+60% atk up from tove/drake + atk speed

ripe linden
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Waiting for Xmas release tho

odd plaza
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Xmas diesel squad effect will reduce cd of same squad members by 20s

craggy garden
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Then we can call the new duo cunny maids

odd plaza
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Brid will be 60s cd, so diesel is must pull Doro

rare spire
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Also, another argument: for those whose Helm bricks their Nayuta in wind raids, Soline offers an alternative to DKW that allows for slotting a different B3

upper veldt
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skipping ANY CDR

craggy garden
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Milk

faint egret
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remember when ppl skipped cdr's

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always comes back to bite them

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regardless what it is, if cdr its risky

craggy garden
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That's before we had 5 good ones

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How many b1 CDRs do you need?

faint egret
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all of em

craggy garden
faint egret
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we had "enogh" cdr units too

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we "kicked" volume 10th time last year from sr teams yet

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here we are

ripe linden
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To kick dkw out

craggy garden
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Maids saved volume

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Crit no longer a meme

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Kind of

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You also have liter, DKW, siren, rouge and maybe rapi

ripe linden
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I kinda want to kick dkw and reset her I'm ngl

craggy garden
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She might kick volume if you really need a tiny bit of healing and it's not a wind raid

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But only if you don't want to mald to survive without healer

rare spire
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Although Volume surviving this time as off-burst

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Liter or Rouge, and Rapi are the ones at risk kek

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Rapi-less delusweat

craggy garden
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how does bro play ssakura over rapi

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surely rapi b3 is better even in neutral

ripe linden
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Vs nothing

dawn sail
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it's impressive that he ran Volume over Rapi

wise grove
craggy garden
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sbs lib is the strongest b3 duo so you probably want to use a real buffer for her instead of trying to outdamage her with rapi

rare spire
dawn sail
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damn

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forget that

craggy garden
dawn sail
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stupid jellyfish

craggy garden
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stupid sexy fat ass fish

ripe linden
faint egret
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liter might slight edge in that comp

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these b3's has no self buffs

ripe linden
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Yes but liter has the edge in max end lib sbs

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To make up for it

faint egret
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I guess we either assume he tried both and this had higher total

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or ScarletCopium ScarletCopium

ripe linden
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Average and max liter In maids is higher than volume

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By like 700m atm

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Liter likely has much higher ceiling when you just crit without crit buffs

craggy garden
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yeah volume does nothing if you crit enough

ripe linden
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With more resetting for it

rare spire
vocal sandal
signal ridge
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what would happen if she was "re-enter burst 1" like Tia
she would've been top tier?

formal swallow
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Bunny Alice tier at least

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Even better cuz cdr

fossil yoke
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do we know her surface skill

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@gaunt dust

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did mt start yet

gaunt dust
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Dude, wait 15 more min

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I think we lacking like support skill buff on surface skill list or something

gaunt dust
fossil yoke
fossil yoke
fossil yoke
gaunt dust
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100% skip

fossil yoke
craggy garden
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You don't build radial teams for ele advantage because you have to run into all elements anyway

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But you can use her if you like ig

wise grove
craggy garden
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Water is the strongest element for combat team because there's no bosses that counter it yet

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Idk what's the elemental split on radial enemies

rare spire
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Electric is strongest for actual damage

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Cinderella, Isabel, and Maiden have values for their skills that are higher than anyone else

craggy garden
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Maiden jobs to Liberalio

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Idk what Isabel do

upper veldt
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I thought she has heals off-burst

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but from what I can tell she literally does nothing offburst besides the cdr

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why would they make the seasonal alt a designated skip

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le frost ticket, in winter, is not a seasonal alt?

safe creek
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It's just like D.

formal swallow
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Damn xmaiden banner soon?

wise grove
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I mean yea she will rerun

fossil yoke
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Testing against Scar and SG in pvp pls

craggy garden
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Scar should splatter her but sg might be unable to kill if it checks for <15% hp after every pellet

rare ginkgo
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omg she looks straight out of ba lmao

craggy garden
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Big ass bell

west gust
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Hot dam

dusty sky
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is frostie the snowman good

west gust
dusty sky
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wait this doesnt look like soline

west gust
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Non-water weak

rare ginkgo
fossil yoke
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Someone alr tested:

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  • On Neutral and Water, Soline wins if you use ATK DMG B2 (not Leona).
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  • On Electric, Isabel Arcana disable Soline.
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  • On Iron, BSoda makes running Soline less attractive.
west gust
rare ginkgo
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running arcana isabel in sg team means you need a 2 b2 setup, means soline cant fit

west gust
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Has anyone pulled Soline here?

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can anyone confirm that her skill page is bugged
lol

rare ginkgo
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phone bug?

formal swallow
leaden moss
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first pull lmao

west gust
fossil yoke
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I think language issue

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Change to EN

rare ginkgo
west gust
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When will Water Soloraid return again?

rare ginkgo
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well for sg specifically, soline gets sg buff and gives cdr

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viper can slot in other teams too

wise grove
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No cause doro is the carry and want more burst

bleak locust
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Does having soline cdr doro and bsoda better team damage of three shotguns lets say doro bsoda and drake?

rare ginkgo
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this is probably the team for iron weak? soline prob not used then...

wise grove
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I mean since last holo kraken viper didnt go to sg team and funneling doro with cdr

rare ginkgo
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nobody ever said soline will be mainstay in sg team tho, she definitely element dependent and is probably the easiest to replace

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sg team sidegrade i will say

wise grove
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Where is those guy cook that use 4 cdr to funnel doro

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What its the usual no
Doomposting first cause 40 sec cdr b1
Then theres hope as cdr
And now its live

rare ginkgo
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its only just me and mackii who pulled her so far i think wahahaha how is that hyped

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definitely very safe to skip, dont worry

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unless some copium future unit comes... but thats a doubt from me

wise grove
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I mean yea its a skip even pin says so
Its just the how the test is going when live

gaunt dust
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So what's the conclusion

rare ginkgo
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some ppl just like some teams compared to others... i have unhealthy obsession with sg and sw teams... was in serious trouble when leona mpriv tove all came out in quick succession

west gust
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Can anyone tests?

gaunt dust
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So she's end up like sg team filler?

west gust
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whether Filler with Viper would be better or not

gaunt dust
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Soline has cdr

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Which is kinda a hard thing to replace

dawn sail
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Soline SS tier B1

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demote DKW to S

gaunt dust
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So she end up become a questionable cdr option

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That received the buff

wise grove
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Soline is just like delta
While delta you can only see her in wind sr top rank
Soline too in water sr top rank

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Elsewhere those 2 are rip

gaunt dust
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Delta is water element, but somehow can become buffer due to Crown

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So Delta can see more flexible options

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I would say S tier because her wierd placement

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Because CDR are highly valued

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But ppl forgot Sakura anyway

wise grove
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Arcana has it too I want them to raise their rating on her and isabel
Seeing those 2 performance in raid too lmaocry

mild scaffold
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what would you say to people who don't have a sg team yet, but want to build an entirely new one. Is it worth building Soline instead of another Nikke, and which Nikke would you not build instead?

rare ginkgo
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she just has value for her cdr and sg synergy, nothing breaking but there is value there...

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now just gotta wait for the pvp peeps

gaunt dust
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A niche value

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Can skip if you are casual

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But for raid slave it's a must have instead

muted wyvern
odd plaza
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Wait till winter banner kits are shown

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If its brid + diesel, very high chance soline will be part of the squad bonus

thin storm
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if you are non top50 why you even care about meta just pull whoever and shut

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instead of nonstop yapping

rare ginkgo
sterile thunder
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This sort of talk make me depressed at spending hours to end up at 2%

thin storm
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meta only matters to top50
51-200 3-10% can do whatever they want

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Idk why you yapping about SR non stop when you said it yourself the mode is boring

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and still yapping

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Hardmode is boring SR is boring now

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pvp boring

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UR boring

odd plaza
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Is leona ever going to be meta b2?

muted wyvern
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leona treasure. it came to me in a dream TimiHeee

thin storm
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lmao

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this dude trying to brick people acc to not roll Ele% on their RH/story pusher nikkes

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and called it bricked cuz ele is wasted CP

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now this dude calling SR is for people that main 1 ele cause himself dont roll ele on attackers

rare ginkgo
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meta matters to everyone, its just the difference between a niche minmax unit versus a high value conventional unit...
soline is definitely a minmax unit, bis for her niche atm but outside of it its hard to utilise her

muted wyvern
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and her niche is water-weak, off-burst SG team CDR? Do I have that right?

rare ginkgo
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yes

muted wyvern
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๐Ÿซก

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I'll wishlist her. But gotta admit, this expression is super cute (also kinda lame that it isn't on her expression list)

rare ginkgo
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i think her ginormous bell also probably made some people pull haha

gusty nexus
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Put her with rouge so u can tap shoot and get faster burst genRougeStare

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And cindy and maiden get max hp buff which they scale off of

wise grove
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Who let this guy cook

gusty nexus
muted wyvern
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But I'm only sync 231, and already have a huge backlog of characters to invest in. Xmas and New Years are coming. I can't be using my currently limited resources to pull for a unit just because I find her cute. If she was meta, I'd swipe....but to the wishlist she goes ๐Ÿ™

west gust
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Darn No one's pulling her for tests

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lol

rare ginkgo
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dayum nobody pulling her for this either wahahaha

odd plaza
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From the event, it kinda confirms winter infinity rail alts

muted wyvern
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But......

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She's the only SG team part that I have any "investment" in. That investment being her treasure. Oh, and Drake, because her treasure was free

rare ginkgo
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we gonna die with new year too

odd plaza
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I hope not, maybe not yet.

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Maybe next year snow white alt

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For xmas

gaunt dust
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Hp you gain is way less then what you lost

west gust
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bad skill tbh

rare ginkgo
odd plaza
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12% att soline sr5 doll vs 4% att dkw sr0 doll

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Diff is mostly just due to soline's dmg in SG team

gaunt dust
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D's buff doesn't outweight soline exists

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So she end up become a subdps due to being a sg char

bleak locust
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Is Leona useful now that SG team has a healer?

odd plaza
gaunt dust
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Cause they are b2

wise grove
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Grave better for me cause no OL leona and grave burst gain kinda good with soline high cdr

west gust
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would Viper outperform Soline's CDR ?

wise grove
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solemn swallow
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I treasured T3 my Viper. Am I bricked? Neocchi

bright fog
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Ahh yes. SU back to making their usual characters ๐Ÿ˜‚

wise grove
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More uptime of her own burst buff

bright fog
wise grove
winter tinsel
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Is bsodas cdr only on her burst?

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Is it on her burst

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Or does it proc everytime team foes full burst

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Ic ic

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So soline is good not necessarily cause burst cd but just more uptime for Doros burst?

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Wouldnt u want to also use grave with dkw atp

wise grove
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Cdr kinda win for doro cause the burst buff uptime every 2 rotation is better also because
If burst extend 9 burst are 5 doro
If cdr then 13-14 burst and 7 are doro

bright fog
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When you have multiple CDR chars do they really stack? I have never tried. Like if you have mermaid+soline -15secs?

winter tinsel
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Iirc theres no teams that requires more than one unit with cdr

bright fog
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Hmm. Wonder where it could be used, like imagine a 3x B1 team using RH as B1 ๐Ÿ˜‚

winter tinsel
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One copy of soline or chasing that last copy for mlb lib

rare ginkgo
gaunt dust
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Soline like 10/1/1 for the cdr

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If you want to invest

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Other skill are just plain healing

rare ginkgo
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waterweak w grave

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waterweak grave (soline burst every 2nd rot)

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waterweak leona

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waterweak leona (soline burst every 2 rot)

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waterweak naga

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i think if your sg team needs heals, using soline to burst is better than naga or some other healer

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just make sure soline bursts when u dont burst with sdoro

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similar results in neutral (windweak)

upper veldt
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she's an update for sgs?

bleak locust
upper veldt
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just make sure soline bursts when drake bursts

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and tove bursts when doro bursts DoroSus

patent pecan
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CrownGoofy so soline good?

rare spire
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I got half-way through S8 Harvester using Tove/Nayuta/S Doro/Drake/Soline deluthonk

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and my S Doro isn't that great

hazy oar
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I don't see the tech for Soline BlancStare

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No buffs in 25, almost 26

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Soline is skippable

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Very safe skip

dawn seal
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define "safe"

hazy oar
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I didn't expect that one, my bad Doro

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But soline shouldn't be able to deal a lot of damage

odd plaza
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In water weak, she's like a subdps as well. But only water weak

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Tove and drake buffs are significant

hazy oar
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Tbf I think a skip unit is mostly one that won't hurt your account if you skip

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For most players they will have no use for delta or soline

azure owl
hazy oar
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For raid players, I don't see Soline being used

If players can go healerless on a raid like the last one where it almost always feels that every team needs a healer, you could go
Tove grave doro drake volume

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Then I don't see a use case for her

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Like how much can she even deal

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Maybe at max invest and when against water weak I guess she could be equal to a neutral sg dps (drake/soda), but only if fully invested (4 ele 4 atk and a couple ammo)

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Which is not a realistic scenario

bleak locust
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so its mostly for elemental specialists

hazy oar
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It's for the top element specialists

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If you're a growing player/still don't even have the main dps fully invested/have the main invested but are not a rock spender

Then you don't invest in Soline anyways. Rather you wait for an actual water DPS to spend rocks

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So in like 9.9/10 cases, Soline is a skip

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And even then, even for the top guys, I still think Soline is a huge maybe

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There's no doubt she's designed for the offburst slot for Doro team though

bleak locust
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Im just waiting for the bonus recruit to refresh, i'll probably end up getting soline tehre

hollow imp
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Did the mathdude cook

bleak locust
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it depends on the upcoming solo raid if its water weak yeah people can squeeze some good damage with soline

hazy oar
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It's also like, right before the rush season too

Double limited into pilgrim incoming, Feb is also a mess (maids), Collab in late Feb/early march, and then Anni in late April again I think

bleak locust
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yeah dont like wasting those tier 3 skill books, those run out fast

rare ginkgo
hazy oar
rare ginkgo
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i done this, give me a solineless one

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ima just do bsoda

hazy oar
rare ginkgo
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ok 1 sec

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or 6 mins rather lol

hazy oar
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We used volume for ele filler this raid over rouge

rare ginkgo
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isnt rouge usually for blanc b2?

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ok if its soline vs any other cdr unit in sg team, soline always wins no question especially with tove

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altho it is not a very big difference

rare spire
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But if most/all cdr are accounted for, she's low priority for sure

rare spire
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B Ade and Mari are stronger

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A well-invested Rouge can usually handle healing the team alone

ripe linden
rare ginkgo
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is this sg team?

rare spire
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Blanc is usually bunny SG or bench

ripe linden
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Optimization sg team water/fire (cu currently lacking wind)

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Most noticable with 4 ele water

ripe linden
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Water is where it's at

ripe linden
hazy oar
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Like they practically give nothing as well

ripe linden
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I think wind may not have a place for her

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Because no wind qte

hazy oar
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Yeah true

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Even guilty got benched

ripe linden
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But yea basically you're holding a sg vs 5% DMG up from dwife

rare spire
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Unless we get a Wind SG that rivals Doro

hazy oar
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The damage increase cannot be that high

ripe linden
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So is 5% DMG up worth eating tove drake buffs

hazy oar
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6% above a neutral sg?

ripe linden
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Above dkw in same setup

hazy oar
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Like that's not even true 5%

hazy oar
hazy oar
ripe linden
hazy oar
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Team damage wise?

ripe linden
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I'm still in bed

hazy oar
rare ginkgo
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wait a sec was reading u guys stuff lol

ripe linden
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U hold a shotgun or you dont

hazy oar
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Yeah

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It's just that

ripe linden
ripe linden
hazy oar
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Siren gets cooked in that team too tbh

ripe linden
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Siren is mega cooked

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U wouldn't run her there

hazy oar
# wise grove

800 mil on shooting range will be even lower I think on a boss

ripe linden
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It depends on boss

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Core hit makes sdoro buffing better than sg dps

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Since sg not only misses the boss but it misses pellets completely iirc

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Vs say gluttony

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Where u miss nothing

hazy oar
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Yeah but sdoro is practically not even getting buffed by dwife/rouge

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They're just there

ripe linden
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Minor ammount but u get what I mean

hazy oar
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Still skippable tbh BlancStare

ripe linden
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I agree, optimization use

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And water sim infinite use

gaunt dust
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Oh wait, I forgot that if Water OC start, you stuck with Doro or Soline

ripe linden
upbeat token
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B1 CDR with heals. 40s CD but that's to throttle her healing burst.

She has no offense potential. That kinda robs the CDR benefits.

ripe linden
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I think deltaNT was a better pull for wind than she is for water tbh

upbeat token
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Like she's just a healbot

ripe linden
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She's just a cdr that holds a sg and heals once

upbeat token
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Oh? Normal?

ripe linden
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Which is why tove

upbeat token
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RIP, I mixed things up. Deleted that part

ripe linden
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If she was re enter

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She would be huge tbh

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Off burst healer cdr

gaunt dust
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If she Re Enter, never hurt to use her

ripe linden
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Would be huge addition, nearly every Miranda/tove team wants

gaunt dust
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If I don't pull Soline, do I stuck and use Milk to copium

ripe linden
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Doro priv I guess

rare ginkgo
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neutral (windweak)

ripe linden
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Or just go tove maids doro helm eat no cd

rare ginkgo
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neutral (windweak) bsoda bursts

gaunt dust
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Yeah, make sense, gonna stuck with like 7s down time

ripe linden
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So cdr sg+ > still beats soda

gaunt dust
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Soline conclusion is like: She just a cdr that happen to be having a shotgun

rare ginkgo
upbeat token
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Yeah, I see now that she's relegated to 7.25%-12.27% hp heal (of caster's final max hp) at best once a fight if she never bursts

ripe linden
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Skipoable, optimization for sr sg team fire/water weak pickup and possibly sim OC water

rare ginkgo
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also, im not sure whats the usual heal team for sg in neutral, but using soline to burst is better than naga bsoda team

upbeat token
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You sure? Soline burst means Tove ain't bursting

rare ginkgo
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and that is bursting every 2 rotations with soline, ideally u only burst with soline when necessary

ripe linden
rare ginkgo
gaunt dust
hazy oar
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Can't we buff drake anyway at all gang?

ripe linden
gaunt dust
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Drake Doro

ripe linden
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Same as water

hazy oar
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No no no way Leona is used

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On fire

ripe linden
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Leona was used cuz we didn't have bade

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So people opted to use grave in another team

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But grave was higher dps

rare ginkgo
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grave is wanted in sw team, or some mg team usually... rarely do we get grave sg

ripe linden
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Yea it was just b2 slot optimization

hazy oar
gaunt dust
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Soline is a wierd one to decide
She's a niche char that's bad in a vacuum
But due to Tove exists, she suddenly become a subdps that scale better than having main dps received the buff
And.. Water OC exists and you want to run Dorothy or Soline

hazy oar
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On average even blancing it was better

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But now we got like Ade and stuff surely that's better

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Heck even nayuta

ripe linden
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Yea there's better b2 now but back then iirc top ran leona

gaunt dust
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Man, still waiting for Yingning to be added cause she's normal attack buffer specialist

ripe linden
rare ginkgo
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leona treasure soon trust Prayge

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and sugar

ripe linden
#

So grave could be used upward

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No bade at that point

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No core boss cuz zizz

gaunt dust
#

Yeah, gonna skip and wait for new year selector to claim her

hazy oar
#

Wdym back then

ripe linden
#

Bade clapped grave

hazy oar
#

When was ade

ripe linden
#

Nayuta touched crowns toes

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Ade was mw

hazy oar
#

Oh so right after this

ripe linden
#

Next raod

gaunt dust
#

I missing Vesti rn, do I gonna use 2026 selector to get Vesti or Soline

hazy oar
#

Dang

hazy oar
rare ginkgo
hazy oar
#

Lord knows u need Soline WHYYYY

ripe linden
# hazy oar Dang

In those 4 months we went from Mari was pretty good to hard benched

hazy oar
#

I guess Soline is not a bad pull for sr enthusiasts then

I thought Soline would be like below Leona lvl dps

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But I think it's like on her level ScrajjLeft

ripe linden
#

Neither of them self buff right

rare ginkgo
hazy oar
#

Well I thought Leona did but no it's just team buffs

ripe linden
hazy oar
gaunt dust
#

It's 2025 and almost 2026 and Liter somehow not yeeted

ripe linden
ripe linden
hazy oar
#

Volume is dead tho

gaunt dust
#

She's fucking necromanced

ripe linden
#

Liter has survived doro, dkw, rapi b1 and currently fighting siren(water weak top team liter)

#

Next challenger

rare ginkgo
ripe linden
dawn sail
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at 50% ammo reduction she reduces cd like 6s

ripe linden
#

But doro doesn't buff them cuz she only has part dmg

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And part DMG sucks cuz parts r paper

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And we end up shooting gluttony

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Or black snake or zizz

dawn sail
#

Zizz has 4 parts

rare ginkgo
#

su was on meth or something, creating doro for motherwhale lol

dawn sail
#

part dmg should be good there

ripe linden
dawn sail
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except you deal 1 dmg on them

ripe linden
faint egret
#

I wonder if will we get the queen from campaign as a sr boss too

dawn sail
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Queen is too easy

faint egret
#

maybe just maybe.part might work

dawn sail
#

but I prefer her over Black Snake

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Black Nake is the peak of laziness

ripe linden
dawn sail
#

it spits, you survive? Nice, may be you can win

ripe linden
#

Like lowbie Sr players

dawn sail
#

you don't survive? Better deficit

gaunt dust
ripe linden
#

By accident

faint egret
#

69, nice

ripe linden
#

Via formula

ripe linden
# dawn sail you don't survive? Better deficit

I think campaign queen "||only 1||" would prob be rough if they have the same dmg output as deficit campaign ||miss tentacle? Die, qte slow? Die|| - also healerless able qte if ur fast

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For new players

dawn sail
faint egret
#

tinfoil hat time

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we got this healer b1 cdr

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due to upcoming ||only1 ||sr

ripe linden
rare ginkgo
faint egret
#

next meta dps will be cindy filler with max hp scaling

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everyone knows that

ripe linden
#

The real answer to soline is prob sg fire/water(primarily water prob) Sr optimization and possibly simroom oc

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Where's the pvpers at tobe creative with soline

rare ginkgo
ripe linden
#

He's around but I think he's playing another gacha

wise grove
#

Next ca season soon see if theres someone who pull and fit her there lmaocry

rare ginkgo
#

he usually jumps at these weird pvp units

ripe linden
#

Time to break into a pvp cord and poke at tests on how the ticket works

rare spire
#

Almost cleared deluthonk

ripe linden
#

@gaunt dust do you have soline magic number

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For burst gen

faint egret
wise grove
#

I mean you didnt use tove

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But yea lower than helm is kinda cooked

craggy garden
#

๐ŸŽง ๐Ÿฅ€ ๐Ÿ’”

dawn seal
craggy garden
#

Whomst

dawn seal
#

Brother is not reading shit I see SoraNaughty

craggy garden
#

2 cunny?

dawn seal
#

Sora's squadmate

craggy garden
#

Year of the cunny is real

dawn seal
#

I thought we're getting Sky actually as the filler, dunno why

gaunt dust
rare ginkgo
upper veldt
#

i'm tearing up bros

craggy garden
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

formal swallow
rare spire
quaint ravine
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Need to get one copy

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For Miranda AFK strat

odd plaza
#

The current event really hinting at brid + diesel alt soon. Ingrid summoning the entire infinity rail squad for some surface mission discussion

Which i believe some squad effect might affect Soline

hazy oar
#

I went like 150 for a 2% last year

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I think rumani

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Ended up using mileage on her

alpine sandal
#

10 pulls

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no gasoline

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SKEEEEPPP NihilisterAngry

hazy oar
#

Gasoline
Diesel

#

What was brid again

gaunt dust
#

Hybrid

hazy oar
#

True

faint egret
#

we need a esla for electric

craggy garden
#

i did 80 pulls for soline

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i got 2 pilgrims tho

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but it was noah and red hood ๐Ÿšฎ

alpine sandal
faint egret
#

if its hard to pull its meta

quaint ravine
#

For me she is meta for AFK Miranda. So basically meta for Electric (ada) and Fire (Mihara) raids.

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She goes to the SG team on water weak raids

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Should go with the SG team on wind too

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As Bsoda goes for Iron

faint egret
#

btw do we know why the patch is 17 gigs with just 1 nikke

dawn seal
#

Was 2 gigs for me ๐Ÿค”

quaint ravine
quaint ravine
dawn seal
#

no, win10

faint egret
#

I'm 11

quaint ravine
#

Huh

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Then that gets scrapped KEKL

faint egret
#

probably 11 is brokena again

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as always

dawn seal
#

But I changed this

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Like few days ago

quaint ravine
#

I need to check the space it is taking once I am home kek

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Practically downloaded the game again

dawn seal
#

Someone on the internet said that it would be better to change the path to drive other than C so it wouldn't constantly redownload itself, and I believed it clueless

faint egret
#

mine was not on c from t

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the start

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so thats scrapped too

dawn seal
#

Excatly that one?

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Not this

faint egret
dawn seal
#

what about game resourcers?

faint egret
#

can't click on it while its patching, wait a min

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wait that was^on c

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time to migrate

dawn seal
#

Yeah, game resources are on C by standard for some reason

gaunt dust
#

So it's C driver issue

dawn seal
#

At least I was forced to do so

#

ShiftUp...

alpine sandal
#

okay straight skeeeppp

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save for better unit FrimaSleep

formal swallow
#

If you canโ€™t pull her and quit, did you skip her or did she skip you?

quaint ravine
#

You gave her a blank ticket

cloud river
#

Sooo, how trash is soline?

quaint ravine
#

Do you care about raids? If so she is probably a must. Otherwise she is borderline useless for any other mode, maybe UR if you are forced to use 2 teams on the same element

quaint ravine
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Cuz of her CDR

cloud river
#

For Miranda teams?

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Or SG?

quaint ravine
#

Only Siren and Rapi B1 will give you enough CDR to have 14 complete bursts

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And since rapi cannot be used as B1 with Miranda that leaves only Siren

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And fuck me if I ever use Siren on Miranda's team

cloud river
#

Mmmm, between her an bunny milk, how should I leave to the new year selector and who just pray to get in wishlist?

quaint ravine
#

Yeah you can just wait for the selector banner in any case

cloud river
#

.
Since, I don't think is wise to pull right before Christmas right? Xf

quaint ravine
#

I will just do 1 more 10 pull for luck and save everything for Xmas

formal swallow
#

thatโ€™s a good idea. Iโ€™ll selector her if sheโ€™s raid staple.

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saving for tiddy star

cloud river
#

How good is bunny milk in comparison? Since you can only selector 1

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Soline doesn't really do anything other than cdr

quaint ravine
#

I cannot really answer that correctly

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I do not care much about iron

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My Bmilk is 1/1/1 0 OLs

compact zealot
#

10/4/4 Soline. Future proofed for raids.

quaint ravine
#

Too bored to type it again

craggy garden
#

#NIKKEvideo #NIKKE
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โ–ถ Play video
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Oh no no no

formal swallow
#

Core 7

craggy garden
#

Do it for +1 mil

sly token
#

can you pin her surface content ability as well?

quaint ravine
#

If someone has her surface skill and % please send it

grizzled wolf
craggy garden
#

Build a 5rl team to abuse soline passive for longer

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...

wise grove
#

Stun cant heal?

craggy garden
quaint ravine
quaint ravine
#

Yeah lower than Rapun and Moran/Sakura

wooden summit
quaint ravine
craggy garden
grizzled wolf
craggy garden
#

And then she doesn't heal when die

grizzled wolf
#

see pvp vid

craggy garden
#

Red hood can kill her from over 15%

grizzled wolf
#

siren vs siren soline p1 stunned wasn't 6 sec or full burst yet

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can see the shape of the buffs

wise grove
#

Nice "passive" that cant even proc when stunned

ripe linden
#

thats all passives tbh iirc

wise grove
#

Moran cant heal self back up too when stunned p1?

west gust
#

Can she shoot when stunned?

ripe linden
#

with priv

wise grove
faint egret
#

30 pullls for 1 copy. Good enough

quaint ravine
#

Can someone test for me.

Miranda BAde HelmT Mihara CDR

Dwife vs Soline.

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I want to know if the extra seconds of the last burst make up for the 5% atk damage that Dwife would give.

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Ofc, this is the afk mihara strat. So if your helm steals the buff dont even try it kek

quaint ravine
#

Ty

quaint ravine
upper veldt
#

but I thought soline alt is crap clueless

quaint osprey
sage charm
#

@quaint ravine actually my bad, i forgot i reset dwife and had her at s2 level 7, gonna get her to level 10 and test again

rare spire
quaint ravine
#

Please re-do

ripe linden
rare spire
#

the pins in the Delta thread

sage charm
#

@quaint ravine

quaint ravine
#

Thanks!

formal swallow
#

Ok not that big of a difference then

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Previous one was spooky

rare spire
#

Still makes her a good unit to be on-par for damage with better CDR

formal swallow
#

Yea I mean if youโ€™re top 200 hunting then go for it. For the rest of us 1-3%+ dwellers sheโ€™s a weak sell

rare spire
#

Healing over no healing should be an easy sell for non-top 200 delugiggle

compact zealot
#

An off burst CDR with healing is a hard sell?

formal swallow
#

Are the heals off burst?

quaint ravine
#

Yeah

formal swallow
quaint ravine
#

But she only heals once per nikke

formal swallow
#

what

#

why even

#

anyways Iโ€™ll grab her from new year ssr picker

quaint ravine
#

She gives you a ticket at the start of the battle

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And if your health goes below 15% she heals you for 12% of her max hp

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That's pretty much the only healing she does

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Basically she is a CDR stick

rare spire
#

If you need more healing than that, sacrificing an on-burst B1 burst or two is worthwhile compared to dying akkoShrug

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In the case of Iron-Weak Mother Whale, that would've been enough healing kek

formal swallow
#

donโ€™t remind me of fucker whale MaxwellDepressed next mw raid hopefully 2028

#

or even later

pseudo pollen
#

look I consistently get top 200 and I didn't even use delta this SR and I'm gonna skip this girl as well

#

you don't need her for top 200

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you might need her for top 20 and those people don't need a guide saying whether to roll or not they only need to know if they should C7 or MLB

signal ridge
#

why there's 11๐Ÿ˜ญ but only 5trash reactions?
she's not bad like i thought?

rare spire
#

She's not bad

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She's just not amazing either

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CDR is comfy and always has potential use, especially with backup healing

pseudo pollen
#

people be arguing like she's gonna make or break their top 200 score when at best she's comfort or a few hundred mill ontop of your score

rare spire
#

She's no must-pick, but she's not a guaranteed skip either akkoShrug

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Gotta consider your own account's circumstances

pseudo pollen
#

same story for delta

signal ridge
#

i'll skip her for Winter Units
i have around 110 pulls and 200 gold tickets
if i get Liberalo in the free daily pull, i won't need to spend 200 gold tickets for her

rare spire
#

Yeah, that's the safest choice for most people

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Xmas patch is usually an app update, meaning Nayuta/Liberalio/SGoline will be added to the regular pool

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Unless SU gives us double limited 1% banner, rolling on those and getting spooked is better use of pulls for most

compact zealot
#

Players struggling to survive raid teams should probably pull her, no?

quaint ravine
#

Just get her from the selector banner if you already have all nikkes. Unless you are a water lord. Save all pulls right now for the Christmas units and reruns.

pseudo pollen
rare spire
#

Then just burst deluderping

quaint ravine
#

Nah we mald here

pseudo pollen
#

example queen SR likely would have just ended your run

quaint ravine
#

Any % of damage lost is crucial KEKL

pseudo pollen
#

bitch hit hard if you took her attacks directly

rare spire
#

You lose more damage from wiping poppo

ripe linden
formal swallow
#

Under 15% hp is such a meme lol

quaint ravine
#

Easy just dont wipe

ripe linden
#

delta would have been rank changing difference

quaint ravine
ripe linden
#

like a few bill

quaint ravine
#

Like hoping the queen went for Cinderella all the time so you wouldn't have to cover and lose burst Gen

rare spire
#

Also, burst lobby for those who care

ripe linden
#

with core delta > xlud > naga, xlud loses personal dmg without core as well so would drop more compared to delta

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for this raid

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so top end would prob drop a bill or 2 with avg dropping ~700m-1b more would be my guess

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in comparison

compact zealot
#

Most players struggling only play full auto because they donโ€™t understand the mechanics that let you mald. A contingency healer is not a bad investment for them.

ripe linden
#

that being said

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i think if xmas isnt water weak

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soline is super safe to skip cuz u can NY selector her

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theres nothing between now and ny if xmas isnt water weak

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and thats garenteed soline if u have everything else

compact zealot
#

Unless they stupidly skipped other units.

rare spire
#

Just wait until near end of banner, check Xmas unit kits, and then decide if you can afford to skip a CDR unit more comfy than Volume and DKW delugiggle

ripe linden
#

^

rare spire
#

If both Xmas unit banners are 1%, roll for Soline and mileage those heh

ripe linden
#

triple pilgrim back to back

compact zealot
rare spire
#

No urgency to pull on Soline this week since no raids delulove2

ripe linden
#

and water OC starts NY

#

so ur always going to have NY selector for her if anything

quaint ravine
#

What units are they going to ban for water OC is the real question

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They will 10000% nerf Helm's lifeleech

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If they ban B3 snipers we are fucked too

#

Cuz that means no helm or bready

sage charm
# ripe linden and water OC starts NY

from what ive heard she has strong synergy with sg fire team too, since she gets the most out of t.drake in tove/b2/sdoro/drake/cdr without sacrificing other units like dwife

#

could be worth if you're trying to push/minmax into t50, but only if the next banner/raid turns out to be fire/water weak

craggy garden
#

You don't get ele advantage in fire team

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So she does half the damage

sage charm
#

im not talking about ele adv, more like, better cdr benefits tdrake burst uptime

rare spire
#

Wow, 2/4 of my accounts got her in a single 10-pull, another in 20, and last in 30 delugiggle

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That's profit

ripe linden
#

ur corrct but it shouldnt be a huge difference

#

compared to dkw

#

water should show an actual difference

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like 5%-7% on team 5 probably wont shift ur rank too much its like a few hundred mill

#

but getting an extra 700-1b on water could be sustantial

#

and thats also the extent of her use

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compared to a buffer like bade or smth who can kinda appear anywhere

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in multiple teams

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or our cdr units when we didnt have cdr and we needed them everywhere

quaint ravine
ripe linden
#

the value is lower

ripe linden
#

electric is filled isnt it?

quaint ravine
#

MirandaT with Ada and Ein

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Or Ada and Mihara

ripe linden
#

dont we have a siren there?

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last time

quaint ravine
#

I used siren elsewhere but should be about the same

rare spire
#

Also, Ada provides healing to the B3s, so unless boss is AoE heavy, Soline not needed

quaint ravine
#

You aren't getting as much from siren other than CDR

#

So again, soline is a CDR stick and a really good one

#

If she were 7s it would be shit

ripe linden
#

i think with rapi being b1 for not fire/iron means we have alot of cdr Sweat

rare spire
#

Siren isn't very good in electric no matter what

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The only MG is Guillotine kek

#

And Siren still giving more than Soline even in that state

ripe linden
#

esp for electric since electric uses dolla

#

and rouge for xmaiden/cindy

rare spire
#

Rouge was with S Anis/X Maiden last time

ripe linden
#

goes from subpar to acceptable b1 cdr

rare spire
#

Cindy in Crown comp

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tho that's Gluttony has no parts/core

ripe linden
#

yea but u get value out of her is my point

#

and dolla forced sg

#

not many slots left Sweat

rare spire
#

Also, Rapi was used in a hybrid manner this SR

quaint ravine
#

So that only leaves you soline and Siren

rare spire
#

Top half of top 50 used her B1, lower half used her B3

ripe linden
#

rapi liter rouge(with either cindy/xmaiden) can be b1 bursters

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and we have a spare siren

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forced dolla sg

#

unless siren can boot rouge

#

or ur dropping siren all together for soline which sounds sus

quaint ravine
#

Give us a good electric B3

ripe linden
#

cindy

quaint ravine
#

That can use siren

#

And kick scarlet and Trina out of the meta

ripe linden
#

scar trina was already booted wahahaha

#

kira went jill

quaint ravine
#

Ik

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Jill doesnt like siren tho

ripe linden
#

yea

quaint ravine
#

Unless you are manualing

ripe linden
#

i dont think jill is living another sr either

#

tbh

quaint ravine
#

Yup

west gust
ripe linden
#

but if jill doesnt live. scar/trina doesnt live

#

i think

rare spire
#

Looking at Kira's teams, inclusion of Soline would mean kicking out Liter. Siren into Crown comp to bounce off of Crown/M Mast, Rouge stuck in Exia comp due to X Maiden's love of HP buffs and S Anis' allergen to ammo, and Soline in the DoT comp.

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I guess we could stick Liter in T5, remove X Lud, and use Rapi as a B3 there thonk

ripe linden
#

i dont think siren's dmg is worth losing cindy buffs

#

on electric weak

quaint ravine
#

I dont think we can come to a safe conclusion until we know what the new electric units are

rare spire
#

Of course that's true, but we have no way of guessing that delugiggle

ripe linden
#

i think soline has a hard time fitting in electric

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is my thought atm Sweat

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and even if she fit it would likely be very minor increase

quaint ravine
#

True

west gust
#

Soline

#

is

quaint ravine
#

But considering she only needs 10/4/4 she is a much welcome addition

rare spire
#

Skill 4 is basically free KEKL

quaint ravine
#

Was about to say that

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You get enough books daily to 4/4/4 one until KEKL

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And I got to the point where I dont have elemental books

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And a shit ton of normal mats

west gust
quaint ravine
west gust
#

tbh 7/1/1 is already enough to play without leftover CD

rare spire
#

S1 to 10 will be necessary if Grave used in SG comp, but aside from that, 7 probably fine, ye

quaint ravine
#

Bade or grave should give enough burst gen

gusty nexus
#

Wait she actually good?

#

Not like good good but decently good

ripe linden
ripe linden
#

in some elemnts

quaint ravine
#

Used every single one until the last day of the raid

ripe linden
#

the safest answer if u have everyone important is wait for xmas, see if water raid

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if not water raid -> skip NY selector when needed

upbeat token
gusty nexus
ripe linden
#

its a low cost skip at worst with a maximum time loss

quaint ravine
#

It is literally CDR only

ripe linden
#

just straight cdr+holds a sg

gusty nexus
#

Im throwing her event tickets at her and 1 and doning

ripe linden
#

element up

quaint ravine
#

The Heal could be 1HP and she would still be the same

upbeat token
ripe linden
quaint ravine
#

Her healing is borderline shit

upbeat token
#

I didnโ€™t read chat history

ripe linden
#

shes a tiny bit better than dkw

#

water shes a decent bit better than dkw

upbeat token
#

Huh

ripe linden
#

mihara team she showed a very small improvment in a few tests (inconclusive almost)

upbeat token
#

โ€ฆ where does that put treasure Viper?

rare spire
upbeat token
#

RIP

#

Outdone by a munchkin

gusty nexus
ripe linden
#

until she gets the bnech from there

gusty nexus
#

Looks like a solid A mayyyybe S

rare spire
#

Viper's never had a strong presence

#

I don't think Soline will get an S

ripe linden
#

i think viper was a minor improvement even back in the day

rare spire
#

She's basically a backup CDR unit

ripe linden
#

i dont think soline deserves an S

gusty nexus
#

If she had just alittle more it could be s

rare spire
#

If she had any offensive buffs, ye kek

ripe linden
gusty nexus
#

Maybe alittle dmg buff on heal

ripe linden
#

im ngl

#

in my book atleast

rare spire
#

or yeah, if her burst and S2 were switched

gusty nexus
#

It looks like a strong heal only problem is ur not getting ur other b1 buff

ripe linden
#

but yea i think itd be closer to A?

gusty nexus
#

Which 9/10 is a strong dps biff or sum

ripe linden
#

like top of A

rare spire
#

Drake burst vs water-weak isn't substantial, which is why water-weak SG comp is the most likely place for her

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She's basically the same situation as Dolla for Arcana comp

quaint ravine
#

A sounds about right

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Cannot be S

#

Cuz again. She is literally just CDR and damage on water raids

rare spire
#

If you're going for being a water main (as one, I don't recommend), then that's the only situation to really care about her

gusty nexus
#

Bro I swear i was cooking when i said put her with rouge cindy and maiden so rouge can tap shot for burst gen and cindy and maiden get max hp buff

upbeat token
#

Wind is the way DoroAhuhe Trust

ripe linden
#

just become omni element f2p

#

and poverty all ur units

#

"oh boy 60% ele thats great!"

rare spire
#

I have someone in my union like that

ripe linden
#

and get 100-200 rank in everything

rare spire
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Not going to be getting 100-200 rank with 60% ele

ripe linden
gusty nexus
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Wait we getting a water raid next

quaint ravine
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I was kicked out of the top 200 in the last water raid in the last few hours KEKL

quaint ravine
ripe linden
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u get the few important units to like 90 then the rest at 60 ez clap

rare spire
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We don't know next raid

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SGoline is a filler banner

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The "frost ticket" subtitle is deceiving, but she's not limited

quaint ravine
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The next 2 raids are decided by the Christmas units and the NY unit

ripe linden
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rapi + mihara

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rest poverty

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rei doesnt even have a fking ammo

quaint ravine
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How is crow higher

ripe linden
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its not organized by power i think

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idk