Hexacode Stat, Teambuilding and Resources Managing

[robust gorge]

We aren't event out of beta and I am thinking on what the goals for when it is out will be

[turbid raven]

one at a time once a week

[ancient idol]

[robust gorge]

Clear sector 2 day one

Clear sector 4 and all bosses by the weekly reset

[turbid raven]

goal: clear entire thing day 1

[robust gorge]

Rinse and repeat

[ancient idol]

i saw a speedrun

[turbid raven]

soldier OL abuse

[robust gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-time-busy-aint-nobody-got-time-for-that-gif-15753141

[ancient idol]

5 hours for all 26 rocks

[turbid raven]

yea

i can see it

if u know what ur doing the 2nd time around u can slam it

[robust gorge]

True

True malders will reach sector 4 by the first day and start farming those hexa codes

[supple terrace]

You have a week before you brick your account and have to uninstall

Unless you didn't start on launch day

Then delete your account immediately

-0.6 rock

[turbid raven]

yea but do u have a week before u brick being day 1 clear

[narrow lynx]

why is it more blurry ah

Much higher resolution bordering 4K bad idea

My pC LAGs

Updated pin

The old one. The smaller version but without RRH and Emma skill update.

I am attaching both to pin cus the second oneis too large and im lazy to fix.

[narrow lynx]

Yes

[ancient idol]

yeah Emma's the only one with this skill i think

[turbid raven]

yea

but he has 35%

[visual zenith]

ffs even the name of the skill says it... shouldnt hv been baited

mobile

[turbid raven]

we trusted kisenix

[visual zenith]

might mean something if we hv units that can shoot while moving or something

[granite shale]

oh my god

theres another factory
i shouldve gone for that base

[visual zenith]

is this 4-2?

fk i didnt know

[granite shale]

No tho
can still just wait til 7th day and farm those sec4 rocks

just need to unlock dailies on day 1

[granite shale]

4-C

[visual zenith]

i just went hospital first like an idjit even tho hospitals are useless

wait t his the hospital one?

demmit

[granite shale]

its the second one
which i just liberated as well

[visual zenith]

baited by su and kisenix in 1 day

[granite shale]

just whatever u do
filter out Strike skill nikkes
lel

[turbid raven]

thats hat i do

[granite shale]

but why bother tho

for beta

[turbid raven]

4 fun

[granite shale]

the only thing that's worth now
is just 3rd Quest

[visual zenith]

after finishing all the bosses i guess im still gonna finish all the research and factory upgrades and shet

[turbid raven]

i think water ends up here

[visual zenith]

looks good

[granite shale]

watch me kill this thing

[visual zenith]

sweet revenge haha

[turbid raven]

kill it without moving

assert ur dominance

[visual zenith]

this needs to be an achievement

[granite shale]

but theres healing mob

[turbid raven]

out dps the heals

[granite shale]

theres no healer tho

what

[turbid raven]

?????

[granite shale]

ah

its timer based

[supple terrace]

what is

[granite shale]

healer spawning

for Cucum

seems to be spawning healers starting 1 min timer

Everyone is coming back to base

from sector.4

for correction

[turbid raven]

do bosses have a time limit?

[granite shale]

dunno

havent seen onr

im thinking they dont

but.prolly have more annoying mechanics as time passes on

like

Enraged

skills more often

which isnt hard to code

[visual zenith]

imagine if they made bosses/mobs that anti heal like xanne skill after beta

[tacit slate]

so max lvl hexocdes u can earn right now is blues? then after beta it'll be golds?

[turbid raven]

@narrow lynx https://youtu.be/z5kEi96aGeM?si=RHvaeYPgH_gAFrAs

[tacit slate]

bruh so they just circle jerk eachother with buffs

and u can afk

[tacit slate]

it says 9

[turbid raven]

u can have partials

i think you get 7 squad + 3 nikkes

[tacit slate]

ah

[visual zenith]

7 + 4 for me

i feel like im missing a dorm somewhere why would they not make it a flat 8 squads?

[tacit slate]

who can i replace xanne with

don't have he r

[visual zenith]

did u eat food buffs?

bruh even elec wont die... dont need to worry about shiet

[turbid raven]

no

[turbid raven]

i forgot what anne even did

noah?

i just wanted range bonus

realistically that spot is for liberalio

but i dont have liberalio for reasons

[visual zenith]

anne is range, replace anne with any wind combat unit

[turbid raven]

and i dont know what she does

[visual zenith]

and then put another range in a diff team

[supple terrace]

why do bosses respawn in 3 minutes but only after the first kill

shit up...

i think people are sweating the minmaxing too hard, i'm comfy with this setup

the tank team is invincible and anything more than this is hard to move out of slams so you might get someone killed if you don't run like 6 teams with healing 2

i'm pretty sure there's some sort of health balancing in the game

cindy and rouge should not be higher hp than n after facetanking obelisk where all the damage the team took was from slams

maybe ally healing goes to the lowest hp unit in the squad?

[visual zenith]

i think there should be a 5 squad limit per fight maybe? now doing 3 heals 1 tank 3 dps kinda overkill lol

[supple terrace]

why tho

it's not hurting anyone but yourself spending all that stamina

let people have fun smushing bosses

[visual zenith]

i mean, i need my dark souls difficulty

[supple terrace]

just play on phone then

[visual zenith]

jk i too enjoy killing the bosses with 1 finger

i even overcooked to fight that sector 4 boss lol

[supple terrace]

7 squad smush is the only way for people to clear on phone without losing units

[visual zenith]

look at these monstrosities lol

1 mono wind dps cuz wind weak

2 mono range dps

mono range tank

[supple terrace]

i kinda wanna change my dps teams to have level 2 healing if it stacks

[visual zenith]

3 healers lol

as in dps with that gives heals?

[supple terrace]

my general combat squad is this

2 dps with healing, tank with range up and attack speed/heal 2 support

[visual zenith]

if u put dolla in, you get that lvl 2 healing and still keep your mono range

[supple terrace]

if i swapped sbs/xuilo for recovery support up i could have more healing but i think it's overkill

[visual zenith]

so every team is half support

[supple terrace]

yes

it means i basically can't die to bosses unless i let my back squads consistently get slammed

running 3x level 2 healing could help even with that

and attack up only helps 2 of those squads so it's not like it's that important

[visual zenith]

yea replace dolla with cindy sbs cindy or bmilk i guess?

[supple terrace]

bmilk and maiden have to stay because they buff the entire team

i was thinking about replacing sbs and xguilo

[visual zenith]

and smart putting range up on tank cuz he is front lining anyway

[supple terrace]

squads 3 and 4 have no dmg up so squads 1 and 2 do more damage than them

1.35x1.35 damage to be exact

two 35% atk buffs with no other attack buffs so it's unique and 30/40% from extra attack which is also unique

eunhwa has a higher bonus attack but it's easier to calculate averages if it's 30,40%

[visual zenith]

switch guilo with clay and its lvl 2 heals + bonus the team becomes mono range

[supple terrace]

i like guilo tho 🥹

[visual zenith]

well thats the sacrifice to become master chef

btw mono range is 50% atk buff

guilo is the only one not same range

and u get heals to boot

[supple terrace]

you need to have the mono range buff unit to make it 50%

it's 10% baseline

[visual zenith]

oh haha, yea sorry i was remembering mine

still its 10%

[visual zenith]

so you not making a 5th team cuz theres no 5th skill range up?

[supple terrace]

more or less

i might add it later but right now i'm running 4 combat squads and 2 explore squads for dailies

[visual zenith]

just put a mono something dps team, they get all the benefits of your other team buffs anyway so no losses

[supple terrace]

i could remove support range up from the tank team and make a 5th team, but that'll make afking defense battle harder

since i won't be able to give everyone bonus range while making sure every spot 2 tiles away from the defense point is covered by someone

so something could sneak up and shoot at it

also i'm not sure how boss aggro would work

with 5 teams shooting there's always two units touching the boss so i can't move out of the tank targeting slams or it'll change aggro to one of the non tank teams

i could put a team 3 tiles away just to buff an heal and not actually shoot

maybe after i unlock all the camps so i don't need to bother with base defense

you shouldn't ever have to deal with base defense after claiming all outposts unless you forget about the game for a week

actually

[supple terrace]

I'd cook something spicy if my Blanc wasnt fucking DEAD

And I can't even put her in the hospital because I need to keep upgrading it

I already tried healing her and had to throw her out on the street halfway through twice

[supple terrace]

damn i wish what all those symbols meant

well they don't mean anything because the stats get converted to cp for surface

[sonic spear]

Since there's no pin with the symbol legend and a bunch of people asking I'm guessing there isn't one.

Attack, HP, and Defense are pretty easy to figure out since we've seen those before.

My best guess for some of the others are stats that don't exist on the surface minigame (yet?) like charge speed or crit.

[supple terrace]

None of these exist on the surface

It gets converted into combat power

[granite shale]

looks pretty intuitive tho

[supple terrace]

why is HP icon an asshole

is it how much defense it has?

[tacit slate]

core dmg buff?

we sure that's the last one

what the

[granite shale]

Because thats how it is

And it makes sense, to be Attack up, HP up, Def up

[supple terrace]

Someone said there's a hit rate buff so it's probably that

[granite shale]

cant be hit rate Buff, because then RL and SR dont get and effect

Hit rates always has the shape of a scope

[narrow lynx]

can I use ur vid

[narrow lynx]

Is this for outside the surface ig

[granite shale]

yes

future

[supple terrace]

I just hope they don't reset map progression

I don't want to go through this again

[oblique comet]

Last one is charge dmg

There’s sniper and a bar below

[supple terrace]

I wonder if you even need to maintain the captured bases

How many units can you have with just max level dorms in the main base?

[granite shale]

huh

[granite shale]

they will

and it will take longer than 2 days to get to sector 4

[supple terrace]

inb4 buff radial enemy damage and remove health potions so you have to crawl back to heal mutliple times per zone

[granite shale]

potions will be a thing

just less abundant

and some for dailies

they gave us too much, just for testing and so we could explore willynilly

this mode is huge and heavy
with tons of work and coding
they cant let this content be finished in just 3 days ofnplaying

try using developer mindset

SP arena
shuffling

Lost sector takes coding too, which can be finished in 10 min of gameplay then forgotten u til next Campaign patch

they kinda gave up with the whole Multiple squad walking arounf alr

last one is just 1 nikke answering questions

Also

surface also recycled old concepts during alpha

Base building

for Outpost

[hot mason]

game system error'd during occupation battle

now i gotta build the fucking camouflage again

[oblique comet]

    "id": 601,
    "resource_id": "hexacode_function_chg_dem",
    "bios_type": "SUB_02",
    "hexafunctionpointdata": [
      {
...

[hot mason]

bruh what is this shit

[oblique comet]

18 points = 1 OL effect lvl

[subtle dome]

Will we able to choose which OL line effect? And does that start from the lowest OL line level? 11 level line = 11*18 pts?

[oblique comet]

not sure, yes

[granite shale]

Ah darn

autosaved shouldve been there before it finsished tho

more likely
it'a already completed crafting and just needs to be claimes

[granite shale]

this sucks
making only useful for 2 guns

[narrow lynx]

There is no HP OL line though

@oblique comet

[supple terrace]

holy shit they finally made lost sector good

[hot mason]

yea best lost sectors ever

[narrow lynx]

Lost sector becoming less daily

[oblique comet]

Oh

[granite shale]

@narrow lynx its HP Symbol

regardless

[supple terrace]

nobody likes doing puzzles when you get interrupted by shitty combat every half a minute

[turbid raven]

Sure

[round furnace]

Any team builds that provide lots of healing

Seems like that would be extremely useful due to recoveries taking literal hours

[bronze idol]

nani

I see many guide post on blabla

[bronze idol]

u can use potions

[turbid raven]

Posted my teams above 3 of them are heal teams

I forgot how far above but I can just use 1 support team for clearing

Squad heal (pepper), squad range, support range, heal up and fill

[pale rover]

1 main team of healing+ support buffs
1 healer tucked in somewhere else either on the tank/dps team to heal the main healing team when they caught some strays

but this is mainly for the big battles (bosses+big signal defense)

for occupations, you really only need the 1 main team of healing

because you can always position it in the middle and be protected

[turbid raven]

3 healing team 1 tank and eat everything

For boss

[pale rover]

i'm trying to use as few squads as possible so i can park them near the bosses and camp it as soon as weekly resets

[narrow lynx]

@turbid raven

Do elements stacking benefit the element units themselves or the whole squad

Does it say anything in game

[visual zenith]

are you talking about the skill (ie isabel) or the universal buff?

[round furnace]

Another question, does investment in the nikke make a big difference like ol or dolls

I see alot of nikkes that aren’t conventional being used so i dont even have gear on then

[magic trench]

yes, OL is make or break on DPS nikke

on supporter mostly whatever

[cold echo]

is that confirmed for surface? i thought pve was supposed to be entirely separate besides whatever affects cp. looks like lbs/cores, possibly rec room, hexacode, and sync lv affects cp. cubes and raw gear don't, so i imagine +5 vs +0 ol won't either

[magic trench]

oh wrong channel

I was tripping this morning

[narrow lynx]

No

Not big

[granite shale]

as long as 1 member is alive

[oblique comet]

What's the team for cucumber

[pale rover]

actually changed them to ether+smary

[granite shale]

2 heals and a tank the rest just dps

[granite shale]

Yeah these are just free heals

you can fight this indefinitely

just Deny rewrads

Then it turns to a 3min timer

meanwhile if you claim it, it'll be on a weekly timer

just giveup reward to replay

[supple terrace]

everyone full cleared this mode already so you might as well go to the hospital at this pint

[granite shale]

but hospital expensive

[magic trench]

18 mins?

10%

motherfucker

every tile consume 2% bar

@oblique comet Have you cooked the Hexagon data yet?

yeah Hexa string goes all the way to T9

wait that's fucking big

they kinda equal one Helm OL lv 0

[granite shale]

i dont think this is correct

cant be maxed out at 50 steps

[magic trench]

50k / 100 = 50

[granite shale]

its 0.2% bar

[magic trench]

really

[granite shale]

50,000 / 100 = 50?

[magic trench]

?

[granite shale]

math is hard
50k/100 is 500

[pale rover]

50,000/100 = 500 bro

[magic trench]

?

[granite shale]

u saying its 2%

its 0.2%

[magic trench]

oh indeed

I was tripping

reading too much code

[granite shale]

but whats this 18min think

[pale rover]

1800s?

30minutes

or 1800ms

[granite shale]

more like that yea

[pale rover]

[granite shale]

30 minutes

10%/30min

[magic trench]

dunno

wait

1800s?

ha ha lmao

[granite shale]

yes
i regen 20% in 1hr

[magic trench]

yeah so 30 mins every 10%

[granite shale]

and i regen 10% in 30min

[magic trench]

5h to regen full

[granite shale]

yes

[magic trench]

just bring R

[granite shale]

same color as Gear color/tiers

Tier 6 gear is blue

Tier 9 will be yellow

best part is stamina goes down via walking
and ure just standing still during combat

my question would be
do u need to stand still for 30min for.stamina

or does it keep ticking when ure doing stuff

[magic trench]

let's see

• Ele
• ATK
• Crit
• Def
• Hit Rate
• Charge dmg

The Hexa Bios things

🤣

if you can't stand OL

time to sit Hexa

[granite shale]

is it ???

[magic trench]

the bios option

"preparing"

[granite shale]

different from these, right?

[magic trench]

yeah

those are HexaBlock

I'm looking at HexaBios

[granite shale]

but u need 18 of 1 type to unlock bios, yea?

[magic trench]

dunno, I can't interpret data that deep

[granite shale]

according to lorax

[magic trench]

may be

[granite shale]

cant wait

for live release

beta should just last only 3 weeks top

[magic trench]

hmmm, I wonder if those points represent stat level

seems to have 6 sectors, 5 land adapters for now

lmao there will even be sudden event

like chasing a Pilgrim: Chase or Nah

[supple terrace]

Can't wait to roll charge damage on all my water hexas

Bready eating good

[robust gorge]

Atk ele crit should be the most neutral of all 3 elements right?

[stiff sandal]

probably just want attack and ele and if it happens crit rate

[narrow lynx]

60 fps 30 mins?

[granite shale]

Charge damage is a stupid hexablock stat to have

only affecting 2/6 of all guns

[granite shale]

no

[oblique comet]

Posted them before but don't have pin perm

[magic trench]

point me to there, I can

[oblique comet]

.

[narrow lynx]

Guys

[granite shale]

what

[supple terrace]

Dead mode

Solved ahh

[magic trench]

okay so I don't understand, what's 1 lv OL gear?

your current OL gear lv + 1?

[oblique comet]

Corresponding to OL equip effect lvl 1

[magic trench]

oh

I see 36p

that's lv 2?

[oblique comet]

Yeah

[supple terrace]

thank you shift up very cool

[ancient idol]

another game mode that is completed in 3 days

someone ping me when 3.5 anni is here thx

[hot mason]

Here you go

[narrow lynx]

Is Squad Range Up range buffed by Support Range Up?

[granite shale]

Yes

[narrow lynx]

thanks

[round furnace]

Does it say how long this beta gonna be running for

[narrow lynx]

mid of december or before christmas or whatever

[round furnace]

Just saw it’s actually in game

[supple terrace]

christmas just a month away

[hot mason]

Our Christmas gift from ShitUp: all surface countdown timers doubled and if a squad dies only gems usable in recovery or wait 120 days.

[subtle dome]

How long it took between Overclock beta and first season?

We probably will see Surface 1.0 at 4th anni

[granite shale]

hmmm
thinking back
i think we have 2 Betas ?

yeah, it was 6 months of OC beta
haha

[supple terrace]

they didnt even change anything after beta

[granite shale]

thet did standardized rotations to 3 guns from 6 guns

removed buildings in OC

[narrow lynx]

Gonna drop this here

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Caip5gcjsYuPinn-SpiF1fzJULlBVo3vlsm4yq-gLVM/edit?usp=sharing

[ancient idol]

how do you know if enemy is near or far

[granite shale]

U click on them

[ruby gull]

17 pages long guide?

[ruby gull]

well the Surface Skill List is the best one out there

[granite shale]

I wonder what's the overlapping text

[hot mason]

Cooldown text

[supple terrace]

all that yap but i still don't know what green dot means

[granite shale]

greendot just means there's something updated in the surface for u to collect

[gentle leaf]

I don't get this one

[narrow lynx]

Its pageless

[narrow lynx]

You click on them and it shows like Mackii says

[narrow lynx]

I made the guide cus people were clueless on how to use the skill list

Might as well yap

[supple terrace]

step on no flour

[gentle leaf]

thanks man

[gentle leaf]

Damn it is actually telling us to touch grass

[granite shale]

flour

[meager shadow]

damn I missed this thread

Surface Power = ???
Surface (Base?) HP = 100% of Surface Power
Surface (Base?) ATK = 2% of Surface Power

everything gives surface power aside from Harmony Cube and gear that isn’t OL

so thats skills dolls OLlines bond consoles and sync

and maybe OL gear level but im not sure I gotta test that

also for some reason Nish has barely more power than me even though he has 400 more sync

so I’m thinking that surface power is harder and harder to obtain

so that high power isn’t necessary to complete surface, just a bonus

and mb if this has already been figured out earlier

[winged urchin]

can you get purple hexacode blocks yet?

[granite shale]

From sector 6 yes

[meager shadow]

I figured out Surface Power
SP = Surface Power
CP = Combat Power, excluding cube and non-OL gear

Surface HP = 100% of Surface Power
Surface ATK = 2% of Surface Power

[visual zenith]

Just found out what happens when reclaim areas finish battery charge:

1. A defense battle in the area is forcefully started (this is combat btw)
2. You get 30 seconds to prepare
3. The battle starts whether u have units there or not
4. raptures start attacking the middle
5. After 3 minutes if you succeed, your battery gets refilled to 50% without needing to use up anything

edit
ok i found out what happens if battery runs out when u not in surface
+bonus what happens if you fail

1. When you go in surface mode, the bases with 0 battery immediately trigger a defense battle, gives you 20s to prepare but if your units not there the base is probably gone,

2. they destroy the base. all buildings at level 1 now,

3. you have to go and retrigger a battle to reclaim i think,

4. reoccupying a destroyed base puts the battery at 100% but all buildings at level 1

[visual zenith]

Do not know what happens if they destroy the middle structure but I assume we need to rebuild every structure there

I think the strat when the game mode goes out of beta is to try and defend the later sectors as much as possible as the lvl4 battery costs are so high

earlier sectors are no problem

[oblique comet]

So you need a tracklist to babysit those thing or just use batteries to avoid

[visual zenith]

yea basically, and if u forget then byebye buildings lol

[oblique comet]

I did failed to defend once, if you failed, you only claim rapture lite and have to spend material and time to remake another one

[visual zenith]

were you there when the fire nation attacked or were you not in the game?

[oblique comet]

1 man defedingn like an idiot

[visual zenith]

lol

ok at least we know

now we just need to know what happens if we not even logged in...

probably just a fail but who knows

[oblique comet]

Imagine not log in for 7 days, boom, all your subbase destroyed and you cry with only factory you have

[visual zenith]

also are the surrounding buildings destroyed and what about their levels?

[oblique comet]

I only failed the reclaim part, haven’t experiment on base, gonna let 1-A destroyed first

[visual zenith]

ok, for science

we not only play nikke now but also coc

[granite shale]

when did it start?

You were there when it was being attacked?

Should I let it happen lol

[supple terrace]

Sure why not

It doesn't have any dorms

And you might not need all the Nikke slots in the first place

[visual zenith]

yeap and...

[visual zenith]

yeap

tell us what happens haha

[supple terrace]

They fucking killed him

[hot mason]

his nikke account got deleted

[visual zenith]

gg

[narrow lynx]

Gg

[visual zenith]

ok i found out what happens if battery runs out when u not in surface
+bonus what happens if you fail

1. When you go in surface mode, the bases with 0 battery immediately trigger a defense battle, gives you 20s to prepare but if your units not there the base is probably gone

2. they destroy the base. all buildings at level 1 now

3. you have to go and retrigger a battle to reclaim i think

4. reoccupying a destroyed base puts the battery at 100% but all buildings at level 1

@meager shadow

reoccupying a destroyed base puts the battery at 100% but all buildings at level 1

yea haha

[meager shadow]

can u put it in one message so I can pin it plz

[visual zenith]

there we go

oh including the old one?

i think i just edit the old one

alrighto done

[supple terrace]

This is so ass

Just ignore all outposts without dorms and also ignore outposts with dorms if you have more Nikke slots than you need

Maybe the meta will be running with as few teams as possible so you can ignore all this shit

20 slots should be enough

[hot mason]

This mode is so punishing it’s beyond stupid

[supple terrace]

4 combat teams that you also use for dailies since they're not that hard

Two squads should be able to hold a defense battle

maybe you could cover two regions with 3 squads

but if the fights all start at the same time you can't protect all the outposts

someone needs to make a list of how many nikke slots each outpost gives

since that's the only stat that matters

[granite shale]

@pale rover

[granite shale]

Wow
and the Calling Signal Generator isnt even used?

[hot mason]

it's a meme tool

[supple terrace]

it's for pathing i guess

maybe there's a way to make mobs path better with it

it sucks

[granite shale]

I thought they'd attack that first before they start hammering the base

[supple terrace]

they should but idk if it has higher priority than the base

if they only attack it if it's closer then it's useless

[granite shale]

description says so

[supple terrace]

well there's no way to test it

unless someone wants to throw their camp

[visual zenith]

the raptures ignored it lol, since they spawned on the left side they didnt get aggroed by it

[granite shale]

But the generator says so

[visual zenith]

i feel it only make defending harder

[granite shale]

the dexription

lol

[pale rover]

it has only 1 tile radius taunt

seems to be the problem

[visual zenith]

they only aggro if its in the pathing of the rapture

[granite shale]

seems stupid lka9

lmao

cant build more than 1

and raptures range is 2

[visual zenith]

maybe that thing + like nihilister skill can do something, but alone its actually harder to defend since we need to split the group

waste of money lmao

[granite shale]

no wonder why they're so cheap

[visual zenith]

also even if the thing gets aggroed, its hp is so small

[supple terrace]

Nihilister keeps losing

Vesti too

[visual zenith]

might be a little useful but between needing defense and combat squads for weekly, i much rather just use the normal bossing team

if only they didnt limit to 39 demn nikke slots

[supple terrace]

i don't think you need scout squads for weeklies

[visual zenith]

def dont

[supple terrace]

they don't hit that hard so even if you do half the damage you should still be fine

maybe if you save them all and try to do it with one squad

[visual zenith]

just using combat squad is enough, bring them to the daily radial rapture and end them with the daily defense for full heals lol

oh wait the daily defense is still radial raptures

but even 3 combat squads is way overkill

[granite shale]

You can repair it with crafted resources

[granite shale]

im just imagine it going up to 170+ nikkes

and anyone skippjng Collabnis just 100%cuckd

[granite shale]

The weekly defense is free heal

and u can fight that unlimited times

"Give up Rewards " and the def thing respawn in 3min
i just select Difficulty 1

[visual zenith]

when the enemy is more helpful than the hospitals

[shy stag]

Is the timer 7 days, or until the weekly reset?

[pale rover]

resets same time as the weekly reset for nikke

[granite shale]

weekly reset

[supple terrace]

do weekly bosses/defense give anything other than hexacodes?

[visual zenith]

Currently no

[supple terrace]

so i should just let my outposts die

[visual zenith]

that is an option i guess

[granite shale]

i just did a defense

for base

at 0%

lel

[robust gorge]

Once you are done with all bosses yeah

Just camp sector 1 dailies

Return to base if they need heals

Rinse and repeat until we get out of beta

[supple terrace]

sector 1 dailies give less rock shards

[fickle quartz]

Sector 1 difficulty 4 give you 60

[supple terrace]

[robust gorge]

No

[supple terrace]

you can choose the sector?

[robust gorge]

Yes

[fickle quartz]

Yea that whats the guy mean

[fickle quartz]

And since the area is small the 3 spot is guaranteed

[supple terrace]

ok now we all do this so shit up adds some qol in this stinky ass mode

ugh

you have to manually change the zone every time

cringe

[hot mason]

Can’t have it too easy

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-12358308896192153975

[granite shale]

Base defense is free heal anyway the weeky one

[fresh zodiac]

If you've clicked at NIKKE in zone 3 for example and open that quest one. It appears immediately sector 3. For me at least

[raven ravine]

Does anyone have a good team comp for the Area Expeditions (difficulty 4)?

[visual zenith]

#surface-and-minigames-hub

Check the pins

[old wasp]

shift up is good at giving useless stats yeah

[granite shale]

The icons dont look accurate at all

where do we even accesd that stat window

[old wasp]

it is from the stream. icons being mismatched is likely the case yeah

ark data sheet got deleted 3

[sonic spear]

So this display isn't in game anywhere? Just showed up on a stream?

And we're still guessing as to the meaning.

[supple terrace]

@narrow lynx i bring new tech

ok i have found the issue with my strat

it breaks the dailies half the time

the mobs forget to spawn at the collect daily or the kill daily and you have to restart surface

[ruby gull]

do u have a tldr? So like all bases die so u forced to do dailes in sector one? Also when u have sign of possible spawn location of those mob daily and u accept daily it will break the game

So u need to move the units a bit and then accept the dailes

Also u might as well start licking your screen in the first vid

[supple terrace]

you can do dailies anywhere, i just prefer doing them in sector 1 because it's closer to the nearest hospital

the big thing is that you don't lose any units over cap so there's no reason to keep any of the outposts

[ruby gull]

Sector 1 only has like 3/4 possible places for dailes

[supple terrace]

i guess if you do weeklies for fun you'll have to walk longer if you get hurt but imagine losing hp in combat

[ruby gull]

Sector 4 has like 6

[supple terrace]

sector 1 is best for dailies because it's small

[ruby gull]

And far away from each other

[ruby gull]

So it defaults to sector 1 when all bases are gone right? Coz when u have all bases it auto selects sector 4

[supple terrace]

it auto selects sector 4 anyway

the tech is destroying bases so you only have to open this once per week

instead of constantly crafting and using batteries

[ruby gull]

Yea in beta, bases and weekly are skipable

[supple terrace]

and if the game breaks when you can see the spawn locations anyway then there's no reason to bother with bases

i bet some people actually do this

the more people let bases die the higher the chance they remove batteries or at least make them less cringe next time

so i'm spreading it

[ruby gull]

[supple terrace]

kisenix put it in the guide

[magic trench]

which guide

[supple terrace]

ubhhh the one people read

i'm saying it should be put in the guide not that it currently is in it

[turbid raven]

It doesn't let u change squad cuz u lose ur dormaatories

Doesn't sector 4 daily give you more than sector 1?

[supple terrace]

Just set up teams before blowing it up

Also only difficulty matters for daily drops

Sector and difficulty selections are separate

[turbid raven]

Ya I forgot to do my 11 squads so I had to recap and upg dorms

[supple terrace]

This might be a viable strat for release even if they don't change anything

You night need to rebuild everything every sector if they keep adding surface power creep and you need to change your teams every sector but even that is probably less effort than battery slop

And hospitals work fine

[turbid raven]

I wish they let me fight sector 4 boss 3 times back to back

[supple terrace]

Do hospitals heal dead units with the squad heal if you don't take them out of the squad?

[turbid raven]

Instead of having to do 123

[turbid raven]

Yes

[supple terrace]

Ok so no problem

Become homeless chad

I'm really not looking forward to full release

It's a cool mode and the first time around is pretty fun but the chores are so ass

[turbid raven]

Is it really going to be that different?

If they don't nerf our teams u just do the same thing

But extra 3 afk bosses

And 1 afk defense

Per week

The worst will be if they release on a Sunday so u have to rush everything

For weekly reset

[supple terrace]

They won't change shit

I'm just hoping for chore qol because they knew it's ass

Shit up qol updates are usually trash

The last daily qol update was literally just "you don't need to claim outpost twice per for dailies 🥳"

So they must have known this mode is ass if they added interception skip AND sim skip

It's not like the new qol even makes up for the new mode

[turbid raven]

U don't think they're nerfing the fk out of healers?

And soldier OW stam restore

[supple terrace]

It's probably less time per day but interception was basically afk with optional qte by now, sim was also just a loading screen and surface dailies is actually high effort menu management

And if you include the time spent for dailies and weekly bosses it's still going to be more time than 6 afk krakens and 7 sim loading screen + insta kill per week

[supple terrace]

I don't think they'll nerf it because the weeklies being basically no effort is the one saving grace this mode has

And blue stamina regen only matters on first explore

You probably won't be able to reach current healing power for a long time because they'll giga time gate everything so alva upgrades will take ages but eventually you should be able to match current stats

[turbid raven]

I think healing is way too over tuned

If you compare it to heal on kill or smth

Or HP increase gains

And blue stam I think destroys their time gates

[supple terrace]

They don't play test so they probably didn't expect heal stacking

[turbid raven]

Even 1 healer is over tuned

Tbh

[visual zenith]

They should buff the self heal, it only affects 1 squad and the heals are so low...

[turbid raven]

1 healer with heal up on outpost defense will full heal ur squads

HP after kill will never match that

3 healers is just godmode

[supple terrace]

That's more about defense battle doing nothing unless you let snipers stack up tho

[turbid raven]

I mean if u run defense without healers they can chip u a bit

[supple terrace]

Yeah that's why they made it do nothing

You have to be able to clear it with anything and you can't take a break to heal like with exploring so they made it piss

[turbid raven]

Yea so if they nerf healer to be in line with life leech then base defense will still chip and not full heal

Forcing us to hospital

= more timegate

Same with stam soldiers

More timegate

On time gate mode

[visual zenith]

Also will force us to actually dodge bosses lol

[turbid raven]

Yup

Meta won't be 8 squad dogpile prob 3 squad so u can actually dodge

[visual zenith]

I am thinking tho, we having it easy cuz we sync 500+, those new doods who just unlocked the mode will hv a tough time if they nerf things

[magic trench]

late game meta is still spamming 6 - 7 squads on a boss though

still, with proper optimization, I think I can split my squads into 4-4

each covers a boss

so the time waiting is reduced by half, but not now. Why do I even run weekly boss

[turbid raven]

If healer nerf then it won't be spamming 6-7 squad dogpile

Cuz I'll die

Atm we have godmode

[visual zenith]

5 squad very doable even with afk method, 4 squad means u got less healers means u might need dodge

[turbid raven]

I think sync 300 people weren't having it too tough?

[magic trench]

just put Max HP on each team

simple

[turbid raven]

Can u tank boss2 with just max HP?

[magic trench]

and 2 healers?

[turbid raven]

Try it for me

[visual zenith]

Not that tough but they also hv limited nikke pools

[turbid raven]

0 heal

[magic trench]

we have 4 healers

split them

2-2 each

[turbid raven]

I said nerfed healer

Healers r way too op atm

[turbid raven]

This is true

Limited nikke is rough

But I don't use all of mine

[magic trench]

nerf or not, it will become from 100% unscathed to half dead kinda?

enough to do 2 bosses then go back to Hospital

[turbid raven]

Idk maybe, I wonder if they will touch squad heal or stam soldier

Cuz they're the biggest offenders imo

We fell for the trap, exposed it in beta

Now they know

[visual zenith]

They might tune both, but i hope they buff the more useless nikkes instead

[magic trench]

stam R Nikke is only helpful first 2 days

then it's whatever lol

[turbid raven]

It helps me do dailies

[supple terrace]

I'll trade healers for no battery shit

[turbid raven]

[magic trench]

I do daily with 4 Nikke

[turbid raven]

Cuz I do 7 day daily

[supple terrace]

How do you run out of stamina with dailies?

[turbid raven]

At once

[supple terrace]

I did 7 daily today and still had like 20% left

[magic trench]

then wake up, you are overrating yourself

[turbid raven]

Idk I ran out so I swapped one r nikke

[supple terrace]

This is like 50% stamina left with 6 sets of dailies done

[visual zenith]

Bruh u guys doing it like a weekly

[turbid raven]

But yea I'm surprised they even put it in cuz it defeats their purpose of stam

May as well remove stam

Better solution tbh

[supple terrace]

You get to run worse teams to Speedrun explore

[magic trench]

stam only works during first few days of exploring

afterward, it doesn't exist

[supple terrace]

The main point of stamina is stopping you from doing weekly bosses in one go

[magic trench]

but we still lack random encounters

I saw it from codes

[turbid raven]

U can do weekly bosses in 1 go atm

[magic trench]

so yeah, stam may be a thing there

[visual zenith]

It forces u to use underutilised r nikkes, and forces you to put in sync... also lower dmg in the squad itself... i say its ok

[turbid raven]

Idk I think it defeats stam, may as well be removed in current version of surface

They would have to do more with stam in full release if it's an actual mechanic

[supple terrace]

Most of the current content has no point and should be removed

[turbid raven]

I mean if u think of it if it was released rn

[visual zenith]

Yeap, the walk from base to all the bosses is possible in 1 go...

[turbid raven]

We would be rushing dailies for hex code upg

Rushing hex code weeklies for stat up

Ect

[visual zenith]

I definitely would

[supple terrace]

They should make it into lost sector 2 where you only clear it once and put the hexacodes and rocks in the outpost farm

[turbid raven]

But because it's beta and gets wiped no point in doing so

[visual zenith]

Extra ol stats is crazy

[supple terrace]

Scrap the chores this shit is ass

[turbid raven]

The most diabolical thing they could do is release surface on a Sunday

[supple terrace]

I'll allow the weeklies

[turbid raven]

[supple terrace]

So yeah basically

[visual zenith]

I think the point is they want to make an 'engaging mode' that also can be expanded upon every few patches like campaign mode right now

[supple terrace]

Remove batteries, remove dailies and add rock shards to the regular outpost farm based on your sector and bosses can stay

[visual zenith]

So it might end up with a huge map

[supple terrace]

I don't expect more than 3-4 sectors per year

You're forgetting how slow the content is

[magic trench]

there're 6 right now

[visual zenith]

And every sector also increase hexablock rarity too

[magic trench]

not 4, not 5, but 6

[turbid raven]

Remove surface

Give me more rocks in kraken

[magic trench]

also the battery is wtf too

[supple terrace]

Launch with 4, add 1 on half anni and another on anni

[magic trench]

I'd love if they make it like

• Rapture is going to your base. Defend now? (168h countdown)

[turbid raven]

The battery is actually ass

[magic trench]

not accepting = Rapture attacks after 168h

[supple terrace]

That's still ass but tolerate

You can spend one day defending and another doing bosses

[turbid raven]

I think live version u just cap ur resources then drop ur outposts

After clearing

Then u go rerun before big update

[visual zenith]

How nice of the raptures to give a headsup

[supple terrace]

It can be a crafted item like calling signal

[magic trench]

it's like those zombie games

you build base then suddenly

"zombie is heading toward you"

[turbid raven]

They are billions

[magic trench]

I actually never play enough to reach that time

always drop after 2 days

[turbid raven]

I beat the whole game

On hardest

[magic trench]

downloading where wind meets today

[visual zenith]

I think better if they allow u to recycle surface mats to credits/dust and other useful mats... that way there is an incentive to keep em up

[magic trench]

looks good enough

will grind it between Nikke's patch

[turbid raven]

I think that discourages u from using ur mats in surface mode

Why would I upg factory 2 if I can trade for CD/cred

[magic trench]

simple

you can trade surface resource

once you reach base lv 9

and research lv 5 of "trading research"

[turbid raven]

I think they're kinda hesitant on giving us resource gains

[magic trench]

[turbid raven]

Overall

[magic trench]

also surface is important because it's the source of Hexablock

OL 2.0

[turbid raven]

Ya it's better for new currency

But I don't need bases for that

Just let them drop after u form all squads

[magic trench]

or I think they will add fixing/increasing batteries cost

losing camps = no dorm

no warehouse too

[turbid raven]

I don't need dorm after I put all my squads in

I don't need warehouse after I'm capped

[visual zenith]

Honestly cant wait for hexablock... and ppl complaining on not getting good stuff like with ols and even t9 manus lol

[turbid raven]

Rerun all bases before big content update

Upg warehouse/dorms

[magic trench]

uh huh no, too much hassle

[turbid raven]

That's less hassle then keeping ur bases

U do something once every 3 month vs once every week

[long cove]

wats the rewards for killing all boss/doing all defense first time?

[visual zenith]

an achievement and surface related rewards only

[granite shale]

get fked lol

[supple terrace]

just kill e verything

[granite shale]

E

[supple terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-e-gif-now-gif-letter-e-gif-for-messages-letter-e-gif-gif-7214154889011367575

[robust gorge]

[supple terrace]

Nice game shit up

The only winning move is not to play

[robust gorge]

I am literally only camping the 3 sector 1 dailies for the rest of the beta

[supple terrace]

Same

I really hope they fix battery slop but they'll probably just force you to interact with it by disabling squads over capacity

[robust gorge]

I just hope there is an auto claim feature

[supple terrace]

This'll bug out your map because they nerfed my strat

[rotund blade]

isn't there option to change what sector your dailies appear in?

[granite shale]

yes

[rotund blade]

then why ppl exploding bases to get earlier sector dailies

[granite shale]

exploding?

they letting base die to just not bother with batteries

[supple terrace]

If you don't bother with batteries you only need to open the game once a week

Sure shields last a week too but you need to craft 30 batteries per week

[old wasp]

just make good teams then u can just ignore the batteries

let them run out then redo it once a week

[old wasp]

we dont explode to get earlier sector dailies

[magic trench]

I give up on killing bosses, not this period

may maintain bases though so I won't be paranoided of lacking resources for batteries (which is fine too, only need sector 1 daily)

[supple terrace]

At this point I kind of don't want them to touch the battery thing because any changes they'll do to it will probably make it worse

If nothing changes you can just nuke everything, log in on Saturday, do your dailies in sector 1 while fighting bosses in all the other sectors, maybe taking a break for a few hours if your boss squads run out of stamina from all the walking, send all squads to base and put them in the hospital, then open the game on Sunday to reset your boss squads to sector 4 and chill for a week

If you don't facetank bosses too hard, you can even skip taking the boss squads to the hospital

It's almost tolerable

You could even park your boss squad in the sector 4 hospital camp and have them defend the no battery battle

Knowing shit up they'll do something to stop you having fun for player retention

[hot mason]

how can anything in this mode be fun if you do it even once a week

I agree they’ll def make batteries worse

I can see them making the recharge 50% less effective than it is now

So you “engage” with it more

[thick bluff]

wait how do you move to squares above the cucumber boss without clicking the cucumber?

[supple terrace]

Very carefully

[thick bluff]

🥒

[turbid raven]

@narrow lynx can u freeze the top row of ur surface skill list so i can see the titles when i scroll down

ty

[narrow lynx]

Done.

[quartz plover]

Rn I’m just smashing stuff lazily, so I guess it’s still p2w

But hell no to making batteries worse

Also, what are they cooking with capping Nikkes deployed count to 39?

Its almost like technical limitations forced their hand

It does lag quite a bit for me the more squads I have

[cold echo]

you'd think they'd let you maybe "bench" formed squads at the sites, or at least the ones with dorms

[polar glade]

the endgame of this event is placing like 2-3 teams at all 3 of the possible sector 1 daily mission spawn locations

preferably fire and water

there is one where u must defend this objective, that is always fire weak, and there are 2 others with just a group of 3 enemies to kill, one of the groups being fire weak and the other being water weak

this doesn't change per day, it's always the same, the only difference is locations of the 2 groups and defense within the 3 available spots that they can appear

so just get like 6 teams, place 2 at each location, and then just afk the dailies

no need to move or anythting

u will need to click to start the defense and another click to claim the chest to complete a daily mission

besides that... u can do batteries if ur bored ig, I have like 40+ of every type of battery and am making way more than I could ever need

and I recommend that each location should have a team that has either brid, deisel, or belorta for the extra range so u don't need to move, it'll take longer to clear dailies without at least 1 team with extended range at each location

[pale rover]

with only 22 days to go, you'd only need 9 batteries per base (27 per secctor 2,3,4)

[winged field]

Will be a race to do SR after this system go live.

[copper totem]

22 days for what

[winged field]

Till beta ends.

[turbid raven]

why

u have a week to do it before u start losing dailies/weeklies

[robust gorge]

• we never have had a SR start the day a new patch drops, only UR so far

[polar glade]

oh fr?

ok then I can stop

[granite shale]

Beta 2 soon

[supple terrace]

I hope they don't nerf my strat

[hot mason]

Cooldown for your cooldowns incoming

Let a base die? 24 hour cooldown

[supple terrace]

What cooldown