Hexacode Stat, Teambuilding and Resources Managing

[visual zenith]

make sure no matter what the support team dodges first

[tacit slate]

[visual zenith]

they dont heal themselves

i only made 1 per element

just dont bring a weak element

[tacit slate]

So off ele is fine

[visual zenith]

yeap

[tacit slate]

Bet ty

[narrow lynx]

what

I don't know

but this will take 300 years

[narrow lynx]

I am improving the readability rn

I wonder if ATK for Non combat can stack wiht ATK for all.

[visual zenith]

they can, if they dont stack it will greyed out

dont stack

stack

read from here

[narrow lynx]

SHIIIIIIIT Not having Jill bricks me then

FUUUUUUUUUCK

[visual zenith]

ok im gonna be afk for abit so cant access the game, but ask away and i will try to answer

[visual zenith]

u gooned ada too much lol, until u forgot jill

[narrow lynx]

why is it all radial

[visual zenith]

btw @narrow lynx , my main epxloration team is mono mid range, so can potentially swap out someone for eve

here i cooked 1 for you

[narrow lynx]

I think I will order this based on color instead of %

[visual zenith]

spreadsheet supremacy

u love to see it

[narrow lynx]

Where da support and what AI do u use

where is same weapon distance

where is taunt

smh

incomplete

its meta

meta

in another server

how tf are u typing so fast

2 monitors bet

goddamnit

I wanna copy ur horizontal format but there are 20 skills

LMAO

I think splpitting supports is alr a smart start

fixed.

oh wait

I think two units are misplaced

hang on

Im dumb

why was it more readable than now

move back that box on the top right pls

I can't be half assed rn

nu uh

1 monitor

u removed all the useless ones

see later u need them

no info there

Emma is broken on surface

30% damage reduc

then u can stack with taunt

+25% damage reduc

now uhave 55 reduc

wait emma has 35

or use both

and never die

and afk

H

Yes

[spare crest]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h3DtI7vpmJxUuZNtxu8lQOHxkb7qX9gO4mRVqc2g98Q/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[narrow lynx]

You can use font to differentiate damage distance

[turbid raven]

wtf are thses

on blocks

wat does that do

[visual zenith]

no idea tbh

cant see what stats these are

its just icons

[turbid raven]

full healed and didnt even ahve to move

2i like this support team

new question

i have 2 hospitals now

do i upgrade both?

do they stack?

[visual zenith]

each hospital can hold its own number of squads

[turbid raven]

only squads?

[visual zenith]

nikke recovery is shared

[turbid raven]

not incapacitated?

[visual zenith]

unfortunately

[turbid raven]

do u guys have more squads than nikkes?

i guess its possible right

cuz we keep getting more dorms justn eed to research squad expand

has anyone tried transport ship yet

[visual zenith]

i tried

[turbid raven]

useful?

[visual zenith]

you can transport any squad to any reclaimed area or helipad but

you use up this resource

[turbid raven]

ah

[visual zenith]

which i dont know how to get back

[turbid raven]

factory?

[visual zenith]

maybe its 1 per day?

[visual zenith]

nope

so currently i used up all i had

significant cost indeed

[oblique comet]

I should make a survey for hexacode equips so that I can confirm all the effects

Because the item color are the same as equip, and go up to orange (T9)

The basic one we got is T4 btw

Hexacode blocks has only 3 shapes (I, A and C)
Basic stat for all block tier: (Effect will update in future)

@copper totem help pin

[ancient idol]

why does it start at 4

[oblique comet]

Green equipment are green

They are matched color with equipment color

But we are way too endgame that we forgot those equip color label

[narrow lynx]

The theoretical meta is 1 skill support

1 healing support

1 taunt with Emma (65% reduction)

• everything else as DPS

[visual zenith]

is this already tested?

[narrow lynx]

I think Arca did

[visual zenith]

okay, im still waiting for the factory lol, cant combat nothing now

[turbid raven]

is that for overall exploring?

[visual zenith]

no combat only

exploring just needs one squad

[turbid raven]

i think using a support squad in the large combats/reclaim ect full heals

exploring as in going around and clearing the straggler raptures

[visual zenith]

yea this only needs the explore team, they are very strong out of combat

[turbid raven]

what do u mean by skill support and healing support btw, heal after kill? or heal squads beside

[visual zenith]

like atk buff, fire rate buff probably

[narrow lynx]

Support skills only affect other squads but not self.

Technically, support squad can also buff other support squads so...

You need at least 2.

You want the Max HP boost for your support squad.

One for "this own squad", with your healers.

And another in your other squad "for other squads", with HP boost skill up.

I would assume the heal every 5 secs is based on the healer, not the... target.

[visual zenith]

i see, so you rly wanna max the heals

[narrow lynx]

I think in later stages u cant survive without damage reduc and heals anw.

I wonder whether u need to swap in and out taunters.

Like you have 2 Defender teams. One taunts for x seconds, then you swap them out for the other, repeat.

[visual zenith]

i hv to test in like 8 hours

the crafting time is just toxic haha

[narrow lynx]

I wonder whether support skills also stack.

Like do 2 healers heal you double

[visual zenith]

someone tested 2 squads with ally heals

u dont get 2 heal instances

[narrow lynx]

Does the heal increase

[visual zenith]

dont think so

[narrow lynx]

That sucks

That means only 1 healer

And another healer for healing the healer

[visual zenith]

but 65% dmg reduc is massive

[narrow lynx]

[narrow lynx]

If it works yeah

[turbid raven]

wat if u just setup 1 support squad

and a bunch of damage

[narrow lynx]

And only Emma has that

How funny

[turbid raven]

doesnt that beat having 2 support squads?

and just have the support squad chill around

[narrow lynx]

Hmm

[visual zenith]

dont forget, the ads all pointed to this moment

[narrow lynx]

If u heal enuf yeah ig?

[turbid raven]

like if i have 4 squads 3 dmg 1 support

and support hangs back with range+dmg/speed+heal

and range increase

[visual zenith]

my emma is mlb and strongest in the server, let me cut the line

[narrow lynx]

U need to have 2 support squads to get all the support buffs

[turbid raven]

i think im only missing attack on taht one?

[narrow lynx]

And your support squad each needs support range+

[visual zenith]

thats what i been doing till now

[bronze idol]

[narrow lynx]

Squad 1 gets selfish Max HP up, healer, and recovery skill UP

[visual zenith]

but maybe ppl saying sector 4 is tough?

[turbid raven]

pepper heal/s bunny ade recover up blanc skill range yan range bsoda atk

im missing atk 5% noise/trony/rupee/aria

[narrow lynx]

Squad 2 gets supportive Max HP up, and HP boost skill up

[visual zenith]

and 1 heal is not enough

[narrow lynx]

So u only have 1 slot in Team 1 and 2 slots in Team 2

Then team 3 should be Emma + Taunt

And selfish Max HP again

[visual zenith]

wtf im doing event story and wtf are these revelations?!

[turbid raven]

has anyone tried

[visual zenith]

oops sorry offtopic

[turbid raven]

oh wait all the strike ranges are supportive right?

like squads beside only?

[narrow lynx]

No

Iirc only for own squad

[turbid raven]

yan is definately not for own squad

i think

[visual zenith]

yea, theres none for own squad in combat

only in explore

[turbid raven]

if i have 2 squads with range

does it work to +2?

[visual zenith]

dont think so

if the heals are any indication

[narrow lynx]

Combat support

[visual zenith]

heals also dont stack

[turbid raven]

can i make a emma squad infront tank with crown and 2nd range unit for +2 range on dps squads -> support squad

then you just have emma tank with a dude behind her shooting

like emma movespeed range so ur dps gets +2 instead of +1 for equal range and emma infront always

[visual zenith]

probably

[turbid raven]

then u effectively have tank healer dps

mmo trinity

[visual zenith]

but will that work in the defense battles? its alot of raptures around and 1 dps only kinda slow

[turbid raven]

i have 4 squads and emma can bring 2 dps slots right

so 1 squad emma, 1 squad heal 2 squad dps

[visual zenith]

yea prob can in that case

[turbid raven]

thats 2.5 dps 1 tank 1 heal

[narrow lynx]

Support 1:

• Max HP Up
• Heal Per 5 Secs
• Recov Skill Up
• ?
• ?

Support 2:

• Support Max HP Up
• HP Skill Up
• ?
• ?
• ?

Taunter 3:

• Emma
• Taunter
• ?
• ?
• ?

Team 4+:

• ATK
• ?????

[visual zenith]

emma taunt and maybe crown

hp up?

[narrow lynx]

Boosts supportive Max HP skill.

Boosting your healer.

In the other squad.

[visual zenith]

i mean do we need boost own hp up in tank team?

[narrow lynx]

Also Liberty squad exists.

Those give different stuff.

Should also stack.

Well...

Probably.

[narrow lynx]

Dunno

Allows u to start with idk 25% more HP is good.

Doesnt it also heal?

Max HP heals no?

[visual zenith]

nah it doesnt

[narrow lynx]

No?

What is this discrepancy

[narrow lynx]

Tried on strike teams?

Non combat?

[visual zenith]

combat only

[narrow lynx]

U sure its not the max HP healing but the leech?

Cus Max HP only heals at the end of battle somewhat

[visual zenith]

nah its not leech, i only get heals from the support squad

[narrow lynx]

Outside combat

Radial raptures

[visual zenith]

never tried

[narrow lynx]

Im sure Max HP heals if its the same as outside surface

[visual zenith]

my team is perfect already for exploring lol

not gonna test out another one

altho...

once we finish sector 4, there will be nothing left to explore or test for the exploring team

no more radial raptures

hmmm

[turbid raven]

i have question

how do i refresh these

do i have to do all 3?

[visual zenith]

u do all 3 and it refreshes automatically

[turbid raven]

ok

so collect tickets -> do all 3 at harder difficulty

[visual zenith]

i would wait until sector 4 to do them

[turbid raven]

yea

once sector 4 i can just spam them?

theres nothing harder?

[visual zenith]

yeap2

i think so

[narrow lynx]

Back

[visual zenith]

no more areas after that

[granite shale]

no need to wait

u can click the Gears

and it'll let u choose difficulry

[granite shale]

Sector 5 is offlimited

Content for 2 months
autists completed in 2 days

[visual zenith]

i assume the final difficulty only available after u at least clear the gate to sector 4

[granite shale]

oh yes correct

[turbid raven]

wat does offlimited mean

like u cant go?

im mostly worried about when i go on vacation so i want to clean up those daily tickets

[granite shale]

u have 5 days of spack time

slack

bum rush sector 4 and then slack

[turbid raven]

ya im on sector 3 atm

is there a way i can show map?

[granite shale]

top left?

[turbid raven]

how far from sector 4 mackii?

what is sector 4 weak to?

so i can prep my units

[granite shale]

i have 4 elements now for each squad

doesnt really matter

when u can have free combat heal

[turbid raven]

so element donut matter?

[granite shale]

walking back to change is too much work

[visual zenith]

it does but the heals are too good

[granite shale]

i have 7 squads now

yee

[narrow lynx]

Phone: Quits the scene.

[granite shale]

entering the sector
first enemy is water elem, Elec weak

[turbid raven]

does it change half way through?

[granite shale]

different part of the sector have different elements

[stiff sandal]

so i need to complete sector 2 to get the rocks right?

[turbid raven]

to get to sector 2

u start collecting tickets after first gateway

u can collect 1 week of tickets

[stiff sandal]

so I just need to get to sector 2 before the week is up and I get all the rocks?

[visual zenith]

no

[narrow lynx]

looking good so far

[visual zenith]

get to sector 2 now

[narrow lynx]

can create same damage distance

[visual zenith]

u start collecting 3 tix everyday after that

maxed at 21

[turbid raven]

same?

[narrow lynx]

Third type if u want

[visual zenith]

but go to sector 4 before it maxes so u can redeem the best amount of rock reward thing

what u call it again, trade 100 to get 1 rock thing

[narrow lynx]

Vesti: Tactical Upgrade Shield Enhancement "■ Activates at the start of battle in combat areas. Affects targets within 2 tiles around the calling signal within the area.
Deals {0}% of the squad's final ATK as damage every 1 sec."

Tf is this supposed to mean

how is it shield enhancement

oh shit

this is what those calling signal items are used for

LOL

[oblique comet]

Hexablock quick survey, you want me to post with which shape

[narrow lynx]

Goddamit

these calling signal units are OP

but u need the item

LOL

[visual zenith]

so its only for defense after u already reclaimed an area

very rare case, at least for now i havent experienced it myself

[oblique comet]

Help for icon survey so I can post hexablock stat infomation

[visual zenith]

cuz u can only install the signal after u already claimed the area

[visual zenith]

left is a hexagon, but right is a block so i dunno haha

[narrow lynx]

Hence, shield enhancement

[visual zenith]

go left one

[oblique comet]

Right is bios block

[stiff sandal]

gotcha

[oblique comet]

I'm at lost for decor

[stiff sandal]

about how many hours of gameplay is that

[visual zenith]

sector 4 u can do in about 2 days

sector 2 maybe 1 hour if u know wat u doing

[stiff sandal]

okay I can hit it from the start to before reset then right

i just finished the intro boss

[visual zenith]

yeap

[stiff sandal]

perf

[visual zenith]

remember to follow the quest on the top right

[stiff sandal]

and getting to 4 can be crunched out on the weekend?

[visual zenith]

if u need team suggestions...

[visual zenith]

yeap, just be wary got coc type cooldowns

[stiff sandal]

so its gotta be spaced out

should be doable

[stiff sandal]

is there a place to check for them yet or no

[visual zenith]

wait abit

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h3DtI7vpmJxUuZNtxu8lQOHxkb7qX9gO4mRVqc2g98Q/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[granite shale]

Both

[visual zenith]

got some info here but if u need examples just holler me or somebody here or in minigame chat

[granite shale]

right one looks fancy

left one looks classy

[oblique comet]

Sasuga indie company make every single possible combination for Hexablock

[visual zenith]

i was thinking left cuz hexablock should be a hexagon no?

[oblique comet]

Right one is bios block

[visual zenith]

i mean as its symbol

but yea

[narrow lynx]

It's all coming together.

Has elements, weapon types.

Everything.

One image fits all.

GG I have solved the world.

[oblique comet]

Dude, I can't, SU actually make all combinations for hexablock

They literally write down every single combinations

[visual zenith]

nice now you gotta hope they dont change much of the units after the beta

[narrow lynx]

Liberalio is broken

40% damage taken

whatdafaq

[stiff sandal]

my goat being even more goated

okay so how does creating squad 1 work

[oblique comet]

You know what funny

[stiff sandal]

just one dps and a bunch of supports?

[visual zenith]

no u gotta make a exploring squad first

[oblique comet]

Hexablock and matching bios are not matched

[stiff sandal]

oh okay strike squad is exploring

i see

[oblique comet]

Like... you need attack bios point to get ele damage stat

[narrow lynx]

pls dont

[visual zenith]

exploring buffs wont work during reclaim battles

[narrow lynx]

I waste a lot of time for this

🙁

[visual zenith]

i say just use rrh miharabc sanis rapunzel diesel

best team imo

[stiff sandal]

okay nice

[visual zenith]

then switch to 2 battle teams for battles

[stiff sandal]

are there separate explore and boss stages

or no

you’d just have to go back and swap

[visual zenith]

ye walk of shame and switch

[stiff sandal]

damn ok

[visual zenith]

dont die cuz cd is 20 hours

[stiff sandal]

holy

[oblique comet]

alt f4 if die

[stiff sandal]

ok

[visual zenith]

or this

u solo raid guys have the quickest reactions right

[stiff sandal]

[oblique comet]

Instantly quit if 1 unit died

[granite shale]

inthink

they will changr

how we can cheese with in combat heal

[visual zenith]

they probably make the fights harder?

altho tbf we are old players who have every unit

not everyone can cheese like we do

[oblique comet]

@narrow lynx

[stiff sandal]

do you have to go back to the main base to recover stamina or do the smaller reclaimed areas also work

[turbid raven]

@granite shale should i just spam the crap out of my potions

im saving for nikke3 at this point

[granite shale]

u could use those stamina potions

just do it

im hoarding because im pokemon player

[narrow lynx]

bruh the shield

is not bordered

my oCD

[turbid raven]

thats alot of words

wats the bestest team

[visual zenith]

anywhere works

or u can also use you potions

[narrow lynx]

Depends.

Scout teams usually use Mv. Spd up, so you are not bored.

Normal Attack Range Up

[copper totem]

@narrow lynx @oblique comet @turbid raven

You guys pinged

I'm home now

[narrow lynx]

Perfection.

Totally wasted my time.

[turbid raven]

wat best team

[copper totem]

It's UR time

[copper totem]

Is this my sheet but made much better?

[narrow lynx]

that is my sheet from Lorax

not urs

urs too much misinfo

[copper totem]

Send me sheet

This is great work

[turbid raven]

texas also had a good sheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h3DtI7vpmJxUuZNtxu8lQOHxkb7qX9gO4mRVqc2g98Q/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[nimble talon]

can saomeone tell me what this effect do and if there is a way to see them?

[copper totem]

Can we pin all of these sheets these seem really good

[turbid raven]

ur the pin person

[copper totem]

And since we have data now, we should play underpowered and test the limits with good teams

Brother

You are maid

You own research lab

You have basically admin perms in this channel

[narrow lynx]

Locking my sheet into viewer mode.

[turbid raven]

ya but that means i gotta do it

wheres kisenix sheet link

[copper totem]

@oblique comet should be able to pin too, or you can ping Aku code

[narrow lynx]

Your name on my PC

is literally nothing

and its black square on my android

[copper totem]

[turbid raven]

he got tired of people pinging him

[copper totem]

I'm going to do UR soon do u guys need anything

@narrow lynx did we finish nayuta

[narrow lynx]

how to access gsheet in anonym mode

[copper totem]

You need to login with another gmail

Any creator shows as email

[narrow lynx]

thats gay

im deleting my sheet for now

it has my name on it

[turbid raven]

doxing urself

smh

[hot mason]

What’s this white bar mean and why is my neon burning through it so fast

[stiff sandal]

its hp and since she had less dupes she has less hp

[hot mason]

So unit stats do matter

[stiff sandal]

as well as OLs from the regular unit iirc

[hot mason]

[stiff sandal]

yeah it takes into account unit stats

[hot mason]

Why does the menu say unit stats don’t matter

Bruh ok good to know

[stiff sandal]

no clue

had a team with 3 uninvested units and scarlet + summer doro

the 3 got cooked and scarlet + summer doro still had like 80% hp

[hot mason]

And what’s the yellow bar on top sorry forgot to ask

[granite shale]

She's not in your synch machine

[granite shale]

i think its synch issue
not core issue

[granite shale]

OL affects like 1%
nothing major

[granite shale]

thats Stamina bar

used for walking

[hot mason]

You’re right

what stat affects stamina

[granite shale]

if it reaches 0
those Nikke wont use skills, and are very weak in attacks

Regen by just AFK for 1hr
1hr gives 20% stamina

[hot mason]

Damn in built timegating, thanks bru

[granite shale]

nothing
they're all the same

[hot mason]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

[granite shale]

but u can cheese stamina refund

by having Soldier EG/FA/OW in your squad

those will return 15% Stamina when killing radial raptures

if u wanna speed run
make 3 of those squads

[hot mason]

Lmao what the fuck r nikkes are meta now?

[granite shale]

and 1 super support team

then use Combat zones battles

for Heal

this is me waiting for the Camo Generator to finish so i can start battle and get free heals

Bypasses Hospital entirely

doing so
I clear Sector 3 within today
and now after 70% sector 4
im waiting to heal here

free heals

[hot mason]

That’s some big brained strat

Fuck lmao

[granite shale]

bypasses Usage of Hospital entirely

[hot mason]

Who’s healing them

[granite shale]

my Support team

[hot mason]

I don’t know the super healing team lol

[granite shale]

these guys

[copper totem]

Some specific units, check pins for sheets, can heal in combat areas every 5s

[hot mason]

Wow

[copper totem]

What do blanc noah do

[hot mason]

I’m kneecapped by my 2 squads limit

Need to farm goddesium

[granite shale]

they dont fight
so they're mostly full HP
they dont roam, so their stamina is mostly full aside from walking from combat zones to another

they just back line and heals in 2-range hexs

[hot mason]

That’s powerful indeed wow

[granite shale]

Blanc increases Heal range from 1 hex to 2 hex

[hot mason]

Blanc always the goat

[granite shale]

Noah increases my team MaxHP by 35% = more Max HP for Smary = More 1.5% MaxHP heal in 2 Hex range

[granite shale]

u farm goddessium by killing radial raptures

[hot mason]

Im stuck in the hospital dawg

[granite shale]

and just research 3rd-4th squads up fast

[hot mason]

But noted, I’ll do it tomorrow

[granite shale]

they're like 10 and 15 minutes research time

[hot mason]

Yea need goddessium for level 3 base

[granite shale]

been there
done that
with this strat, u skip hospitals entirely

[hot mason]

Ye now I’ll have one attack team and the mobile hospital lol

[granite shale]

when u get 3rd squad
it'll be easy then

[narrow lynx]

I know of this strat but

Very untidy crop but whatever.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XZ-RB3V9IdCaZ00_oY1vF9ZMwmcbIc-LF0YEJNeM4xI/edit?usp=sharing

Note that skills in the same cell do not stack. Stacks from other cells stack despite having the same buff.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1432288750729429113/1434241458210209912/Kisenix_-_NIKKE_Surface_Skill_List.png?ex=69079cf2&is=69064b72&hm=fe05dcc97b1d792987d0afa663583b3fc015a6d300422fae6c9e2665ede1fb03&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1003&height=960
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432288750729429113/1434240665868439634/Kisenix_-_NIKKE_Surface_Skill_List_V2.png?ex=69079c35&is=69064ab5&hm=815ad5ddbc3875adb67e1e3cae2952bca115d236f26cfc7977365496d57ca5e6&

[turbid raven]

for emma taunt

do u put crown there?

[narrow lynx]

My idea is to have 1 main healer team that you will use everywhere. They can operate solo (swap in Squad Range Up if you don't have a second support team). Remember this team can't heal itself, so don't do dumb shit.

• Max HP▲ (Combat)
• Max HP▲ (Liberty)
• Recovery Skill
• Recovery Skill Lv. Up
• Support Skill Range Up

And another support team that buffs the healer team (and the DPS team).

• HP Boost Skill
• HP Boost Skill Lv. Up
• Firepower Skill, Recovery Skill, Support Range Up, or anything.
• Attack Speed Skill, Recovery Skill, Support Range Up, or anything.
• Squad Range Up (Important)

Position the second team one tile away from your DPS and main healer team. So, main healer - healer booster - DPS.

An optional taunter team:

• Max HP▲ (Combat)
• Emma
• Crown
• Any Taunter + Damage Reduction
• Max HP▲ (Liberty)

Your DPS team should ideally be (if Combat):

• ATK▲ (Combat)
• Damage Taken▲ (not sure if these stack on mobs or only the highest one is recorded)
• Bonus Attack
• Pick two from the following:
  • Leech on Kill outside Raid Boss.
  • Max HP▲ for better survivability.
  • Move Speed▲ so you can dodge shit.
  • Mono Buff, if you can make it happen (check the enemy's configuration).
  • Liberty squad units (since their skills stack) - first column.

This assumes healers heal based on their Max HP, not the targets'. If it's the targets' ggwp.

Example comp:

• Squad 1: Noah, Ludmilla, Pepper, Dolla, Blanc (all Wind, for no reason)
• Squad 2: Crust, PrivM, Aria, Bready, Mary (all Water, for no reason)
• Squad 3: Maiden: Ice Rose, Ludmilla, Emma, Crown, Sin
• Squad 4+: Make yourself Idc.

Without Support Range Up, Squad 2 cannot reach more than 3 DPS teams, so...

Oh, ye, I forgot...

When moving btw.

Not sure what that means.

Maybe it doesn't actually work since if you're moving you're not battling.
If that's the case, just yeet Taunter team and go for more DPS.

[turbid raven]

i think combat means

base defense/boss

[narrow lynx]

But it says if you're moving.

I think it only works if you're actually moving like for dodging skill shots.

[turbid raven]

maybe when ur actually moving

yea

emma 🚮

kisenix baited us

[narrow lynx]

It's Snake btw.

Snake baited me.

Then I baited you guys.

Then I realized wtf it says for moving only.

But I was like Idk.

@spare crest this is not the same value as in lorax's guide

is this related to the hexagon thingy

[turbid raven]

yea but i got it from u so u baited me

i trusted you to check

[turbid raven]

i think thats like uhh

when u click on them

u see how it says 2?

[narrow lynx]

but its still +1 level

[turbid raven]

but its still "special skill up 1"

[narrow lynx]

?

[turbid raven]

yea

[narrow lynx]

Lmao

[turbid raven]

shiftup things

[narrow lynx]

you think they typoed the level 1 there?

is it possible to check?

[turbid raven]

no clue

[narrow lynx]

wait Lorax pulled it from the game code

[turbid raven]

maybe the jp person can check

[narrow lynx]

but

its probably gonnna be the same error

[turbid raven]

i mean they could just have randomed the skill level i dont think some of them make sense

[narrow lynx]

also whos the JP person

[narrow lynx]

I feel like it should have been Up 2 times

but they forgot

or they typoed

they did this to the Soldiers so no one would use them

[turbid raven]

idk xD

[narrow lynx]

[turbid raven]

lvl 3 lvl 2 doesnt matter just +1

[narrow lynx]

the only way to know is to check

[turbid raven]

unless theres something hidden that 3 does

[narrow lynx]

if it's just bugged number but not in the fight

[turbid raven]

like do we get more cp?

[narrow lynx]

what's the squad name for liberty, non combat, and combat again

I mean

[turbid raven]

this?

[narrow lynx]

yes thanks

ok im not gonna add that to the sheet

its confusing

[turbid raven]

i think

special ops and strike

are combat and non combat offensive

support and free are combat and non combat support

right?

if that makes sense

[narrow lynx]

support is combat only

[turbid raven]

so if ur doing exploring content take strike+free

[narrow lynx]

free is both combat and non combat

kinda

or just pure strike

[turbid raven]

if ur doing combat take special ops+support

strike is non combat isnt it?

[narrow lynx]

then u bring everyone in combat zone to heal together

[turbid raven]

i wonder if u can do that with low sync

[narrow lynx]

how low is low

[turbid raven]

200

[narrow lynx]

Snake says Emma + Taunter is meta

idk maybe the moving is just mistranslation

lol

[narrow lynx]

bruh

[turbid raven]

yea free seems to be everything

strike is only exploration

i think u make 1-2 strike squad 1-2 combat squad 1 support squad while ur doing zones

and ur strike squad heals during combat

1 support+2 combat will handle the defenses

then when youre done done u just do w/e exploration for dailies and combat for bosses (more applicable when full release since we need hex thingies)

also im pretty sure all these timegates r going to be worse in live release

aint no way we get boss 2 min respawn

to farm those thingies

[granite shale]

bired

bored

I killed all raptures

with heal strat
u can complete sector 3 and 4 in 1 day

[granite shale]

im sure we'd be using the Hospital wayyy more in live

[turbid raven]

ya cuz they see us abusing squad healers now

[granite shale]

shut this thread down plz

[turbid raven]

we fell for the trap

"beta"

[granite shale]

Surface Content Sigma

u shouldnt be using the hospital anymore tho

Sector 5 Gate is just ahead

but blocked by pokemon-esque Mud in the road

[turbid raven]

i think support is incobmat

[granite shale]

Support is just combat only too

middle 2 is combat strict

leftmost is radial only

rightmost is All,

[narrow lynx]

Just mix and match

All and combat skills can stack

[narrow lynx]

Support is OP

Max HP + Recovery is gud

Use double Max HP

One from combat

One from "free"

Recovery + recovery lv up, then extend support range

Bring 1 more support for the squad range

[turbid raven]

wat does recovery level up do

[narrow lynx]

Idk, ig make it maybe 1.8% every 5 sec?

[turbid raven]

could be nothing

technically

cuz lvl 1-5 is same 1.5/5

right

[narrow lynx]

O

O

Oooooo

Ooooooooooo

Ooooooooooo oiiii

[narrow lynx]

Lv 6 is 3 percent surely

[turbid raven]

are u sure

test it

[narrow lynx]

No

[narrow lynx]

Lorax

Knows

Go try

Someone in maincord said it does

Take it with a grain of salt

Just see if the heal stays the same or is different

@oblique comet do u have info on recovery skill amount past lv 5

[wide berry]

do we have the "guide man" ready

I don't wanna think and slam the bis team

[narrow lynx]

Tf is guide man

The guide is simple

Bring 1 heal support team to use as "recovery spot"

The others can go whatever

Probably 1 scout and 2 dps or something

I think the meta might be to have 1 combat dmg taken and 1 free dmg taken @turbid raven

I think 2 ATK up, 2 Damage Taken, Bonus Attack is the glass Cannon meta.

Need 1 scout team at least though

Just run 2 atk, 2 dmg taken, bonus atk everywhere for combat

Ez dmg

[visual zenith]

what does normal attack targets mean?

[turbid raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956169630400016384/1433925964295045170/image.png?ex=6906771e&is=6905259e&hm=aa5fa8802cd7c67cc555cbfc5d1755f6bf835d6463de90e3defa7a136dfc2977&

[turbid raven]

wym?

[turbid raven]

i think knowing what i know now

having to do it over again

1 support squad off the bat +1 range overworld (diesel/brid)

1 radial rapture squad full stacked damage

u bum rush through the first zone with all ur stam

go back -> swap out to point defend setup (if 3 squads already make this new squad)

and heal up ur squad via combat support

repeat

[cold echo]

i messed up my stam pots w ele teams, how much is needed if you're early sector 3 to get sector 4

[visual zenith]

for exploration team?

[cold echo]

yes

[visual zenith]

maybe 10-15?

[cold echo]

ok good

how many squads did you use, 3 or 4?

[visual zenith]

1

to explore only 1

[cold echo]

huh ok

[visual zenith]

combat in sector 3 i used 3 or 4

honestly they gave too many potions, u only need 1 expploration team

[cold echo]

wait so you have full non-combat in explore, and just use it to scout w/o killing?

[visual zenith]

yeap

[cold echo]

ok ty

[visual zenith]

wait

[visual zenith]

u talking about the raptures on the overworld right?

[cold echo]

ye

[visual zenith]

i kill those with the exploration too

[cold echo]

oh ok

[visual zenith]

i just dont include that team in reclaim fights

[cold echo]

ye

[visual zenith]

just use potions when low on hp or stam

you need to worry less about hp since theres so much healing potions

[cold echo]

hmm ye

do you just keep your reclaimers at base so you can hotswap eles?

[visual zenith]

i already finished exploring everything and see how much potions i still have left

[visual zenith]

no i made 1 support team 1 iron team 1 water team and 1 elec team and they chill nearby until they are needed to fight

[cold echo]

ah ok

[visual zenith]

they just chilling at the nearest reclaimed area right before the next sector

u know those fks walk slow right? im not gonna make em walk to base everytime

[cold echo]

oh you don't need fire or wind huh, wow

ye it's awful

[visual zenith]

not yet anyway

[cold echo]

gotcha

[cold echo]

waitwaitwaitwaitwait DO I NEED TO SYNC UNITS

IS THAT WHY MY BRID IS DYING

i thought pve was supposed to be separate

oh my god you have to sync units

[turbid raven]

yes

[cold echo]

i'm gonna hurl

[visual zenith]

i did it yesterday, moderate diff with the usual 3 dps and 1 support, altho its the older squad

but i was only sector 3 so difficulty 3

wats the cp of the fight now?

also bruh sector 4 combat is a snoozefest even at alva particle 4

no tank needed but i made 1 anyway

i just stayed like this and nobody was dying or anything

[visual zenith]

lol did sector 4 calling signal raid, its not that hard, when u reach sector 4 and hv 5-6 teams its so easy to do even at alva particle 4

hmm lemme see if i can find anything

no details from any patch notes or anything

i would assume it resets on tuesday (like the normal weekly missions) but it might also be on thursday

[cold echo]

what's in them if you know

[oblique comet]

Can have up to lvl 10 for each skill

[granite shale]

lvl 2 is already at least double

see 2 numbers

366 vs 732

[turbid raven]

so 100% needed

[granite shale]

im bored after clearing all of sec4

[oblique comet]

Me bonking my head to auto organize surface skill value

[oblique comet]

@narrow lynx

[narrow lynx]

Bugged

Maybe

The values

Lv 3 enhancement probably means 3 lv

Lmc

All supports start at lv. 1 @turbid raven

Lv. 1 to lv. 2 doubles

Lv. 3 is adding the same value from lv. 1 to lv.2

So 1.5, 3, 4.5, 6, and so on

[narrow lynx]

Thanks

[narrow lynx]

This makes me think it stacks with multiple level ups

[narrow lynx]

6 sq?

[visual zenith]

yessir

honestly the tank is excessive

probably more useful in the boss raids

just 3 dps and 2 support is enough for every other fight

[visual zenith]

yeap

[oblique comet]

Hexacode explained:
You get Hexablock from surface mode and each block score will have corresponding fixed stat and effect point, every 18 points, you get Bios effect corresponding to 1 lvl OL gear, table below display all Hexablock stat:

[narrow lynx]

Offense or healing buffing?

I mean if lorax is right

Skill lv up is as good as the skill itself

If u dont need too many heals, you can go with atk interval, atk interval up, atk, atk up, and squad range.

Since it's a hexagon, a small cluster of squads is 7 max, with the middle being the buffer without support range boost, and one of the outsides being the healer with support range boost. In a bigger cluster, the squad range and will need support range boost.

Well u can also give ur offense buffing a support range boost too.

10 slots is not enough

As atk dilutes atk

Atk interval > atk

[narrow lynx]

Do you use max HP combat + free?

[narrow lynx]

At the end of the day u need 2 buffers (squad range up, support range up, one buff, its lv up, options + support range up, the other 2 buffs, and their lv ups).

So the max performance you can get is:

• 1 healer
• 2 buffers
• 1 taunter
• everything else DPS

2 squads: strike + combat

3 squads: strike + combat + combat

4 squads: heal + strike + combat + combat

5 squads: heal + buff + strike + combat + combat

6 squads: you do you

[narrow lynx]

So u dont use free max hp up

[visual zenith]

yea, i want the atk range

but possible if add another utility support as you said

[narrow lynx]

Yeah thats the best combo u can make

Rn

Do u know if its healer HP

Or target Max HP yet

I mean I would assume its the healer

[visual zenith]

u tell me i dont need to dodge raid bosses aoe attacks and i will be on that team right now

[narrow lynx]

I think u may need mv spd for that

[visual zenith]

hmm this is a good question

[narrow lynx]

I know a test

[visual zenith]

because when i was fighting i noticed the tank healed like 200hpmore

1000 hp while other healed 800

and the tank has mad hp up

[narrow lynx]

Your first support alone heals how much, and together with the 2nd team how much more.

If diluted, its the caster.

If not diluted, its the target.

[visual zenith]

will test later i guess, i just turned off the game huhu

[narrow lynx]

Sadge momento

[narrow lynx]

Hmm

So its target?

[visual zenith]

i mean this already means something no?

if i can get pic later i ping you

[narrow lynx]

So healer teamd dont need max HP

@turbid raven

[visual zenith]

btw bru found something interesting

[narrow lynx]

Who

[narrow lynx]

Then supportive max hp is actually meta

[narrow lynx]

Different levels stack?

So this is like the real game

[visual zenith]

yea that will be crazy

no wonder its different levels but same effect

[narrow lynx]

Buff needs to be 0.01% amount off to stack lmao

[visual zenith]

i had no idea

[narrow lynx]

Does this apply to everything else though?

Range boost?

[visual zenith]

this has no differring levels i think

[narrow lynx]

Wait is this the enhancement or the support

And does 40% atk stack with 35% then?

Or its limited to supportd

Maybe it only affects buffs given to teammates

[visual zenith]

this one i mean

[narrow lynx]

Didnt he mean the heal itself

[visual zenith]

gonna have to test to find out

[narrow lynx]

@supple terrace

I summon thee

Abracadabra

[visual zenith]

oh yea you can see on the other ch

#surface-and-minigames-hub

its at the bottom lol

[narrow lynx]

Does this mean firepower skill 1 and firepower skill 2 stack

So the best team is

[visual zenith]

we gonna end with 5 supports and 1 dps arent we

[narrow lynx]

• atk spd

• atk spd up

• squad range up

• support range up

• heal lv 1

• heal lv 1 (becomes 2)

• heal lv up

• support max hp

• support max hp up

• support range up

• emma
• crown
• taunt
• max hp combat
• max hp free

• dps all the way (there are a lot of variations for this tho)

Emma is straight SSS tier tbf

[supple terrace]

What

[narrow lynx]

Squad range, support range, normal attack range, emma are SSS tiers

[narrow lynx]

Ok I have a question

U said heal of different lvs stack

Are those the skills themselves

[supple terrace]

Like this?

[narrow lynx]

Like lv. 1 + lv. 2 make you heal at lv. 3 speed

?

[supple terrace]

Looks like they heal separately

[narrow lynx]

So different levels of support buffs have their own instance

[supple terrace]

Basically yes

[narrow lynx]

Just like in real nikke

One more question

To everyone

Does Max HP up actually heal you at the start of the fight like it does outside surface

[supple terrace]

Lvl 1 healing heals 300 every 5s on everyone in range no matter how many units I stack, but lvl 1 + lvl 2 have separate numbers and timings

[narrow lynx]

These dont show up as heal

Your bar probably went up at the end of fight and u didnt realize

[narrow lynx]

So 300 + 600?

Massive

[supple terrace]

Basically yes

It's in the bideo

[narrow lynx]

Undead tank comp

[supple terrace]

Squads 1 and 2 have healing lvl 1+ support range, squad 3 has level 2 healing but no range

tracking if hp boost gives you current hp is pretty hard since the game doesn't list current hp as a number

at the start of the fight your hp percentage won't change and i can't check if it goes up at the end of the fight because it would require me not to be at full hp with my double healing setup

[narrow lynx]

Yeah its near impossible

[narrow lynx]

Btw @visual zenith

is there a limit to how many squads can be in a "combat zone"

or the standard squad is just a recommendation but not the cap

[visual zenith]

I dont think so

We can prob bring all 10 squads

[narrow lynx]

So technically you can bring all 10 squads even idle strike squads and heal together?

[visual zenith]

But do note that squads 6 above no longer are hotkeyed to their respective numbers on keyboard

I only tried 6 so far so not confirmed but i would hv thought 5 to be the max

[narrow lynx]

TL;DR:

[copper totem]

[narrow lynx]

Added "Hospital sucks."

[supple terrace]

R rank units are crazy good

You can basically clear the entire mode without breaks if you use them

[visual zenith]

True, we need free healthcare instead of that ripoff

[pale rover]

surface = US confirmed

[narrow lynx]

I smell US

[turbid raven]

I thought Emma sucked cuz u have to be moving?

[granite shale]

I dont know what they're doing
when i sent my Pepper to hospital

[magic trench]

quick, send Mary to Orphanage

[turbid raven]

@narrow lynx stam depletion debuff btw

i think it also deactivates skills

kisenix seeing the future

for double healer setup if we're using 2 support teams
maybe 1 should be fire power up + atk speed + heal + support range up+ damage up
and 2 would be atkspeed + heal + recovery skill up + support range up + damage up
?

then you saturate like every important buff

2x

[austere bane]

I have not touched this mode outside of the intro so thank y'all for doing all this testing cuz this seems like a lot shit to remember

[narrow lynx]

Ure using squad range up where?

[turbid raven]

why do i need squad range up?

they give eachother +1 range right

[narrow lynx]

For ur dps

[turbid raven]

oh

[narrow lynx]

[turbid raven]

just drop dmg up i guess

but same idea

drop the healer's dmg up

[narrow lynx]

I mean thats fine

[turbid raven]

i have a new question

[narrow lynx]

U can just do thus

And use atk spd + atk spd up

[turbid raven]

if i hae +30% effective range and 20% effective range

do i get 50% increase dmg?

and how does drake effective range boost interact with that?

flat 45 to both?

[narrow lynx]

Enemies are either close mid or far

[magic trench]

yes if your weapon deals both near and far

[narrow lynx]

It shows

[magic trench]

[turbid raven]

oh

[narrow lynx]

Idk how these effects work

[turbid raven]

range kinda sucks then huh

[narrow lynx]

Range is for distance

Dps only hits 1 tile away from them

U need squad range to make them hit 2 tiles away

[turbid raven]

range as in range bonus

[narrow lynx]

Not really

[narrow lynx]

Iirc as long as there are 2 members of the same element or distance category, that element/distance category +10% for each unit.

[turbid raven]

did we figure out emma yet?