[Nayuta] New Unit Megathread

[fervent helm]

should probably be closer to 30b~ DPS with the usual wind comps

actually probably closer to 35b+ now

[pearl helm]

his 100/50 mihara on fire weak is doing 18b, nayuta doing 16b with miranda comp

The point is she can do that much by herself so for raid setups

She can go with that

[fervent helm]

but is that 18b only with miranda + mihara focused comp?

[pearl helm]

Not single wind setups

talking about wind raid setups

[pearl helm]

No

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FxTwitter · Nov 1, 2025, 1:43 PM

It’s on Union raid boss

But that has perma core

[fervent helm]

ok those seem better

but like do the math and see the total DPS those comps there have

versus the miranda cope nayuta comp

[pearl helm]

I’m not talking about single wind setups the nayuta miranda can for sure be a team of her own in raids

[fervent helm]

not enough DPS to warrant it

[pearl helm]

How

Sbs lib will be with maids , siren eva crown

Miranda nayuta

Since this raid has core naga can go with crown

[fervent helm]

you still need to brick your account to use it in the first place

nayuta is a support

helm and maxwell are attackers

[pearl helm]

Yeah not talking about general use ofc

[fervent helm]

you're more likely to have c7 and not to mention SR15 on helm

[pearl helm]

This is like wind specialist only things

[fervent helm]

shit ain't happening for majority

[pearl helm]

[sacred granite]

Does Nayuta's passive heal proc Crown's S2 attack damage buff?

Would be really cool if it did.

[honest epoch]

No

[alpine rapids]

anyone checked that nayuta cs OL working with her weapon change?

[torpid veldt]

Her shooting time is fixed tho

What’d cs ol do there

Charge time fixed at 1.8s

[upbeat tusk]

Liberalio’s charge speed is fixed as well, yet it can be affected by cs OL. It’s just SU consistently being inconsistent

[flint stirrup]

Libido's cs is affected by cs ?

[upbeat tusk]

The yellow tooltips from her kit said so

[flint stirrup]

damn

consistently inconsistent is surely SU's specialty

[upbeat tusk]

Technically it’s the immunity to cs change excluding OL, sim room buff and cube. Not sure if the fixed to 1s charge time in S2 will be affected by OL or not

[granite geyser]

Its probably the cs from ol pierce the immunity for the 1.5 sec one but still wont pierce the fixed 1 sec one

[shell dock]

It's basically bad wording

She's immune to cs related buffs/debuffs starting from skill activation onward

Any buffs applied basically pre-battle start apply

[lethal solstice]

they really said we're not doing another sbs again

alice is gone

[unreal roost]

bmilk

[lethal solstice]

who

🚮

[clever vessel]

The 1.5s charge speed against Boss, yes is affected by OLs

but the 1.0s FIXED charge speed from shooting raptures is fixed and isn't affected by OLs

Same wording as nayuta's
meaning the 1.8s isn't affected by anything

[shell dock]

Yeah, I meant more that gears/OL/sim room buffs are essentially pre-battle, so they affect the 1.5s

but Maxwell applies a buff after combat starts, so she can't affect the 1.5s

[lime oar]

Ngl, That's a really underwhelming gacha bg

[earnest sun]

@lime oar how did you make the wallpaper burst again? Do you have it set to always?

[lime oar]

Set the ult skill as bg

[frail umbra]

Yeh skin is s tier.. not a fan of any of the bursts

[jagged robin]

Wind weak

Mmast 6.2m, nayuta 6.4m

[frail umbra]

Nayuta/mast prob goes even higher

[proven stirrup]

is MLB nayuta really that worth?

[frail umbra]

I mean if ur gonna have enough for anis in January.. why not

[proven stirrup]

i'm considering dipping a bit more for her

[jagged robin]

Mast off burst vs mast on burst

Nayuta mmast are better than crown/anyone in wind weak it looks like

[pearl helm]

only if sbs is there she's buffing sbs with dis damage

[past dirge]

[torpid veldt]

I was excited for her to have a lobby akin to naked king damn. King still king

[jagged robin]

Yea but atp that is the bis team no?

[pearl helm]

for single wind team setups yeah

[somber lagoon]

can nayuta be equip on any team

like crown

[lethal solstice]

Nayuta gacha skin has weird toes

Probably AI

[gilded sleet]

they look fine

[lethal solstice]

i don't like them!!!

liberalio's are cuter and they don't cost 60$

[patent crater]

Honestly we should wait for mission pass skin for any pilgrim character, as they almost look as beautiful as the gacha skin

[warped elm]

I call myself "RapiLvr" and I find myself thinking of changing my background and profile to Nayuta. I think maybe I should change my name and turn in my Rapi fan card 🙁

[wooden coral]

Not a fan of red?

[lethal solstice]

Rapi cucked again

NTR season

[robust ridge]

is nayuta better than liberalio

[shell dock]

They have entirely different purposes

Nayuta will probably have more generalized use since she's a support

Liberalio more likely to be stuck in wind-weak content, but she has potential in neutral

[warped elm]

Thinking about it, mainly irritated because when I was doing research before I started, almost immediately identified Rapi, RH, and Siren as characters that I liked. Started too late so I missed out on swimsuit for SR Rapi, dress for RH, and gacha outfits for RRH + Siren. Not being able to get stuff for a character that I like is poopoo. And Shift-Up doesn't rerun gacha skins, outside of the one-off for Bunny Rupee. It's really just my own personal weirdness that takes away my enjoyment of a character if I can't get all of their stuff.

[fervent helm]

there's been more reruns for gacha skins

2 I can think of right away are fire Asuka and 2B

[warped elm]

So Rupee and 2 collabs (which I also missed lol)

Hell, I'd straight up pay a flat $60, they can keep the tickets, rocks, w/e else. I just want the costume lol

[frail umbra]

honestly annoying u cant get popularity costumes.. i miss modernia one because i started around rezero colalb

I regret not getting mod gacha too.. got crown instead.. because i didn't have mod at the time

[warped elm]

This is why I bought the Siren mission pass, even though I don't have her yet.

I say "yet", which could really be never.

[frail umbra]

that's the one pass i might not get this month.. got the gacha already.. but anni month is expensive enough as it is

idk never say never 😛 the targeted (5) pilgrim for standard banner has made it a lot easier

i think most of my pilgrims are mlb+ now except doro/mod and noah

oh repunzal too

They should probably allow you go get one copy + the gacha skin when ever you pay 60$ imo

[warped elm]

I have enough gold tickets to snag one of each of the next five 1% units, and a few times I've stopped myself from spending my remaining gem stash on the standard banner. I feel like one day I might break and clear out the special beginner support shop for standard tickets just for the chance at Siren. But then I think of the likely possibility that I won't get her, and the feeling passes lol

[frail umbra]

i think its quite scummy they don't rerun pilgrims more.. (the good ones.. and not passed prime ones).. They could have easily have rerun crown on 2.5 anni.. same with Cindy for 3.0 anni..

[gilded sleet]

I did this for Rapi but I got lucky like four months later

It's definitely a risk.

Always save mileage for Pilgrims

[warped elm]

Even considering actually buying those pop-ups that you get like every 10 tower floors. Spending gems on standard just doesn't feel right to me

[warped elm]

Yeah, I get why they do it (FOMO and all), but it does kinda suck

[gilded sleet]

2 standard pulls for a Dollar is a good value

Helps fill up the wishlist

[frail umbra]

yeah unless ur a SR player.. i would not roll on most units (unless you really like them) on the standard banner.

[gilded sleet]

You'll always get NIKKEs you don't want.. lol

What matters is getting the ones that you do

[frail umbra]

I did that tower thing leveling up.. now i just do the cheaper 0.99£ one because i have everything pretty much

[gilded sleet]

Red Hood is still busted

And they re-ran her

They're just going to make you wait until they do a Rapi or Crown rerun

[frail umbra]

both her and mod still hav value.. i just wouldn't be rolling on a pilgrim banner for them.. there has been too many good nikkes since they released

[gilded sleet]

They make more money by getting you to spend on the chase than giving you what you want out the gate

It's Gacha after all

[warped elm]

RRH is supposedly getting a rerun around New Years, and a lot of folks seem certain of it. So there's that

[gilded sleet]

Pulling on 1% banners is suffering

[gilded sleet]

We will see

[frail umbra]

yeah news years units always seem to be re run.. for some reason older anni units don't

[gilded sleet]

I have my doubts but I'm getting dupes if so

[warped elm]

Yeah, I'm kinda hoping it holds true. I'm still early days acct-wise, but she's in my campaign team so I'll definitely be pulling if she gets another banner. More CP is always welcomed

"Hank don't abbreviate Combat Power as CP! Haaaaannnnnk!!" I've played myself 🙁

[gilded sleet]

I was at 160 wall during the Nier collab first run

So my account is well aged for the most part

But it's far from perfect and I missed Eva collab and didn't have Crown or Rapi until last week

But at least I had enough Mileage for Nayuta and Libby

Trying to pull for those two is awful

Gonna save my other mileage for Anis

[warped elm]

I spent maybe two weeks rerolling, started playing proper a bit before BAde/BMilk or thereabouts

[gilded sleet]

Brutal

I started during Chainsaw Man collab

I got lucky and pulled Scarlet and Drake

So they carried me through early game

[blazing fable]

so for wind weak, is crown or mmast better as the secondary b2?

[livid stirrup]

Crown is always the best, unless it's Nayuta herself replacing her for wind adv damage

[livid stirrup]

It's battle power (BP) now

[lethal solstice]

localizers deserve less

[shell dock]

B-b-but BP is Battle Pass or Blueprint

[proven stirrup]

whatever happened to AP (Attack Power)?

that's the real OG way

defense is for people who get hit

[frail peak]

no, do u even have seen liberalio reload animation?

[proven stirrup]

lib reload is peak

[blazing fable]

because the stat isn't just based on atk

[torpid veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245939636702810225/1432745075884163092/Liberalio_backshots.gif

[frail peak]

[patent crater]

What a way to ask for our “bullet”

[warped elm]

Nayuta in sg team a good idea? Like Tove/Nayuta/BSoda/MPriv/Drake (I no has SDoro) or something along those lines?

[pearl helm]

not really

well it can work but if u don't need a healer u just want to use leona then

also mpriv is bad

or like mid

she needs/wants leona

[warped elm]

sync 225, I assume I'll need a healer

[pearl helm]

blanc noir then

and use nayuta on a different team

[warped elm]

roger roger

[pearl helm]

u have wasuka?

[warped elm]

started a bit before BAde, so no 🙁

[pearl helm]

nayuta can go on a team by herself then and crown siren wasuka b3 naga

😔

oh

having sg team is good at least guaranteed 1 team

yeah just wait till challenge then ppl can cook teams for you

[dreamy charm]

oh no

SMG is countered by Scarlet

[pearl helm]

nayuta indom nuked his 2rl scarlet

[blazing fable]

oh, are they both good for pvp

both nayuta and liberalio

[vapid sparrow]

the delay on lib's nuke is way too long

[blazing fable]

there's a delay?

[lethal solstice]

it looks like it's damage over time

[robust ridge]

do i need nayuta to do kraken

[gilded sleet]

She helps tremendously because she does more damage than Blanc

[robust ridge]

but who uses blanc on kraken

i just want to kill kraken

i dont need full auto because its weekly

yeah

stage 9

ok ill upgrade liberalio

do i replace alice

[sweet egret]

Full auto S7 with this comp in 1 min 20 seconds (Needs strong units to S7 before wipe section)

[robust ridge]

i have wasuka but not upgraded

not upgrading evas

unless its maya

[pearl helm]

u can also use mast so it'll insta wipe you if u have enough damage

[lethal solstice]

If you use Nayuta you can full auto to stage 7 before the qte

[pearl helm]

same as with crown

the qte aoe kills u

crown invul she'll be alive for like an extra 20 seconds

[lethal solstice]

Then you don't need manchor

[pearl helm]

my sbs isn't getting the cs buff here

but yeah you can clear so much faster

[sweet egret]

In my experience crown is nicer cause she makes the auto more consistent(not dying). But it performs about the same.

[lethal solstice]

Do you use crown burst?

I don't see why off burst crown would help you survive tho

[pearl helm]

yeah u want to be strong enough to where u get there before any can die

[lethal solstice]

Unless the boss focuses her and the off B3 every time

Nayuta already kills the missiles

[pearl helm]

nayuta aoe takes care of the normal missiles

not the lasers

also

crown is giving def ^

[lethal solstice]

Maybe just luck diff

[sweet egret]

The normal yellow missiles

[lethal solstice]

Crown gives def to units that don't burst every cycle

So 2-3

[pearl helm]

crown has taunt and defense buff, mast is only there to do around the same buffing and so u can wipe faster

it's fully safe once u have enough damage to reach stage 7 fast enough to where it won't matter if anyone dies

[lethal solstice]

Just watch the screen for a minute

Or check after qte

Crown can tank it

[flint stirrup]

you only do it once a week now anyway

why bother with the risk

[jagged robin]

We can see that

[lime oar]

https://youtu.be/vFu_rj-tjxM

S.Sakura stocks going up?

Does anyone have an idea of how much atk you'd need to beat a C7 helm no atk with a LB0 nayuta

[dreamy charm]

45%

[lethal solstice]

Brb rerolling my helm to have 0 attack

[wooden coral]

2b dmg on the top 5 Nayuta team. I suck

[barren latch]

??? Why?

[shell dock]

Helm is an Attacker, so her ATK is naturally higher than Nayuta's

That means it's very easy for her to steal Miranda's buff from Nayuta

[barren latch]

I think it would be better to not use helm and Miranda together then, idk we still lack good water dps

Well, just my opinion

[shell dock]

I mean, just go for 3rd line 4x ele on Helm then rolling off ATK isn't actually that painful

[lethal solstice]

What do you run instead though

[shell dock]

Just roll it back on for water raids

[lethal solstice]

Crazy

[shell dock]

I just did this with my alt

[barren latch]

"just roll it back" , are you hearing yourself?

[shell dock]

?

It's not that expensive if you actually care enough to worry about ATK on Helm for water raids

[lethal solstice]

Helm got core 33

[barren latch]

Ehh, is your rocks, not mine

[shell dock]

Don't need ATK rolls on Helm for top 3%

[lethal solstice]

It's possible if you get a piece with like 1 attack and lock the other two

Water raids are so rare it's probably not that expensive

[shell dock]

Heck, this is my Helm and I've been top 50 NA in water

I can't raise her ATK OLs anymore or she'll brick Mihara for fire raids

Less than 300 ATK diff at level 400 and auto-bricked at my natural sync

[barren latch]

%50 crit damage

Now I get why you ditch atk xd

[shell dock]

it's for when she steals Miranda 100% crit

I just focus on getting my other water units strong enough that I can leave Helm relatively weak

[barren latch]

Btw can I ask, when is a good moment to go for Miranda's treasure?

My account is like a year old? So idk if I should just go for it and build her or maybe build fire Asuka and other units first

[shell dock]

What elements are you focusing on?

[barren latch]

All xd.

From my "carry" DPS I'm just missing doro's armor.

After that, Im not sure yet what to go for

[shell dock]

Do you have LB2 Miranda yet?

[barren latch]

No, but have the dupes.

And some doll kits saved

[shell dock]

Miranda now looks to be a relevant B1 for all elements but water, so she's definitely a potent choice for investment

[frail umbra]

Its criminal you need to nerf ur own helm.. one of the best character in the game infact.. for miranda team to work.. really hope they fix (lol) or at least dont do similar things in the future.. seems like ada was a response to their fuck up.. but how about just changing miranda

[shell dock]

I think Miranda's fine the way she is tbh

The fact that Nayuta's burst works with Miranda shouldn't be thing imo

Seems like bad coding on SU's end

[barren latch]

Also , since she's a B1, do you run her with a second B1 for CDR?

[shell dock]

Second B1 or a B2, ye

This raid, DKW is being used as the off-burst CDR unit in the Miranda/Nayuta comp

[barren latch]

There's B2 CDR?

[shell dock]

Dolla and S Helm

They have inferior CDR, but S Helm's S2 is insanely good in iron-weak raids

[frail umbra]

Should just let her give buff to two b3 or the unit bursting without some qualifier imo

[barren latch]

Didn't know she had CDR , I only pulled her for the damage taken de buff xd

[shell dock]

Miranda/S Helm/Snow White has been a long-used combo for iron-weak since S Helm provides the CDR that Miranda lacks

[barren latch]

Uhhhh, snow white?

I have her in the dumpster xd

[shell dock]

She's very hard to use but a gamechanger for iron-weak

If you properly invest and can use her properly, her team's damage can basically guarantee top 3% alone

[barren latch]

Well, guess I'll build her when I have everything else built

[shell dock]

For dolls, I think Miranda treasure is definitely worth pushing for if you're actually going for the crazy goal of building all elements

Dolls are definitely nice for DPS units, but several treasures dramatically change the value of a unit

Miranda is basically dead without her treasure, same as Drake

[barren latch]

You said she works for all but water right?

[shell dock]

Yeah. Miranda/Mihara for Fire, Miranda/Snow White for Iron, Miranda/Nayuta for Wind, and Miranda/Ein/Ada for Electric

Her gimmick doesn't work with Mihara, Nayuta, or Ein/Ada without treasure, meaning she only exists in Iron-weak without treasure

and if you don't have Snow White built, Miranda is basically pointless without treasure

What makes her so good is the Phase 2 alteration to S2 which gives a unit 100% critical for one shot. Snow White actually uses that singular shot for massive damage, while Mihara, Ein, and Ada all just afk (their damage is in their skills that crit for the entire full burst as long as they don't shoot)

Nayuta is a weird case where her burst somehow isn't coded as firing shots at all, so she doesn't spend the buff

[barren latch]

Ok, I should build her then, have everyone but ada and snow white built

[shell dock]

Drake and Helm treasures should take priority

[barren latch]

I already have them

[shell dock]

Ah, what about Tove's?

[barren latch]

Same

[shell dock]

Then might as well get Miranda's treasure

[somber lagoon]

for the long run are both banners worth mlb?

[fervent helm]

no unit requires dupes outside of very specific scenarios like wanting to do miranda/nayuta/helm/max/cdr comp

or your SBS is C7 with 55% atk versus whatever your lib is

[somber lagoon]

okay thankss

[somber lagoon]

this is my sbs but only C4

[fervent helm]

[lethal solstice]

youll probably need core 4 lib to play crown sbs without stealing

maybe core 5 if you don't have good atk rolls

[past dirge]

hmm

if I mathed right

my nayuta needs 1 more core to out-atk my helmt

the maths are, using sync 400 atk, then miranda burst buff + personal OL right

for nayuta and helmt, then compare

[past dirge]

did anyone hear anything about 100% cr nayuta without miranda for this sr?

a friend claims their liter nayuta helmt rapipi xlud setup always crit during burst, 3 cr lines on nayuta

[shell shale]

We can check

■ Activates when the last bullet hits the target. Affects all allies.
Critical Rate of normal attacks ▲ 14.64% for 5 sec.

15 base

Assume 24 from ol

[shell shale]

Not possible

Helm has 14.64%, Nayuta gets 24% from ol at max, 15 base

That is 53.64% crit rate

Liter, xLud, Rapi provide no crit rate to nayuta

Unless there's something in the code which is making Nayuta crit more, which should happen on any boss

Maybe base crit of that weapon is higher? @pure heart will have to check for us

Otherwise it's always 15%

[past dirge]

assuming he didn't hallucinate it, maybe there's a chance her wep swap doubled the cr or something?

[shell shale]

Even then, fair way till 100%

53+15 is just 68

And I don't see any self cr buff

It'd need to be like 4× the normal amount

Base needs to be 60 to fact check your friend as true

I dont have the static data so can't check

[past dirge]

just tried volume and mmast buffing crit

it's still not guaranteed despite over 50% total cr

[shell shale]

How much Cr does your Nayuta have on ol

Volume is only 5s btw

[past dirge]

none

I crit about half on the first nayuta hit

so both buffs active

[shell shale]

What is volume burst lvl

Assuming vol burst 4 And mast is 20, you have

15+20+0+22.33+14.65
Base+mast+ol+volume+helm
= 71.98

Still needs a lot

Even if u add 24 from Nayuta ol you need a bit more for 100

At this point it's more valid to brick your supporting B3s and funnel nayuta

[past dirge]

just trying to see if there's some bug or something involved

[shell shale]

Maybe your friend was in sim room

[past dirge]

no he's sure he was in raid for that

but he did say he was paying attention to the dark core hit crit icons, if that's the case then he's only looking at 1/3rd of her dmg instances

since the other 2 are delayed

[frail peak]

just got lucky and all hit were crit

[past dirge]

yeah I feel like that was the case

he manualed nayuta for 1 run, then stopped manualing her

prob just luck

[honest epoch]

remindes me of when people told me they fixed fps firerate issue for like 2 years

every patch

until they actually gave us mfra

-> go into shooting range 30fps and visually see the difference and reply "your eyes are bad dont dm me this again"

[somber lagoon]

is this crit rate?

[shell shale]

It doesn't matter

[blissful hemlock]

Dmg

Not rate

And it matters

[blissful hemlock]

Time to crit rate with MirandaTr

[shell shale]

Crit damage for SR

Either one for UR or other game modes

But you'll need a mega Nayuta and would want to be a wind main cuz you may need to brick other attacker units to make sure Nayuta is getting Miranda's S2 buffs

[pearl helm]

charge dmg if ur gonna go for all modes

or cdmg would be bis for miranda

[somber lagoon]

My sbs is complete OL, now im building nayuta then lib

[frail peak]

Can u show the result?

[somber lagoon]

Here

[novel viper]

charge dmg?

[honest epoch]

sounds like 4 ele 4 atk go next if all mode to me

[honest epoch]

it buffs her wep swap

[novel viper]

ah I see

[honest epoch]

i should reroll this but 69

[novel viper]

I never read her kit or manualed her still

[honest epoch]

getting rid of 69 is

[pearl helm]

her wep changes into a burst weapon on when u burst with her

[blissful hemlock]

Chg dmg not gonna work on burst?

It does right

[blissful hemlock]

Liter does I think

[lethal solstice]

How does that work?

[lethal solstice]

Liter gives crit dmg

[cerulean trench]

I didnt kno thq

I thought she buffs atk

[unreal roost]

liter is atk and crit dmg