#[Nayuta] New Unit Megathread

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mystic aurora
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sad

glossy scarab
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quick quick let's see KISAMA can work with Nayuta double quick

torpid veldt
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she don't

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only for her king

livid stirrup
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"affects the king" LOL

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That's really cute

mossy trout
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There's was something in an early chapter that referred to her not by name.

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One of the notes we find in the chapter map.

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The same one that mentioned all the other Pilgrims.

torpid veldt
shell dock
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Still not beginning of the game

glossy scarab
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baited by live strem again SusderniaFallen

shell dock
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That would've been like 8 months into the game

mossy trout
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That's kind of the beginning, no?

livid stirrup
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Again, Lilith

shell dock
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As a Day 6 player, doesn't feel like it, but I guess for players who started later, it may feel that way

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And even then, it was just "There's a Pilgrim who has a Camel," which doesn't really give any sense of hype to me, at least

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(the fact that I even forgot about that is an indicator)

mossy trout
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I mean, I don't disagree she wasn't built up.
My comment was only in response to someone basically saying we had never heard of her before the last chapters.

ashen quiver
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guys did gatrix drop numbers here or nah ?

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why am i glowing

shell dock
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A single shiny in campaign and a single namedrop in one event (the epilogue of it, even) is pretty "literaly who" territory imo

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especially compared to units like Papillion who keep showing up in story yet remained jailed

torpid veldt
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watch em make plapillon the banner after anni over

shell dock
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The skip between anni and Xmas

mossy trout
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Yeah, but Papillion doesn't sound like a unit I want to have.

shell dock
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I agree there

mossy trout
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Same as like the delivery girl.

shell dock
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Some people do want those characters tho

livid stirrup
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I want E.H. instead, thank you very much

shell dock
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E.H. gonna break the game

livid stirrup
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She tanked the bomb that blew up the roof of the Ark and almost clashed with Crow after all that, as a human

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She's gonna be invincible as a Nikke

jovial scaffold
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PvP Meta unit, take it or leave it

jovial scaffold
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Was she even referenced in overzone?

chilly gulch
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No she was never mentioned in overzone

jovial scaffold
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Yeah so she too was an Anni unit who basically appeared the prior story chapter

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(and then we were stuck with for the next 10 lol)

gilded flower
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How good is this?

chilly gulch
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There lore teases in game that alluded to red hood before hand but in main story telling she kinda came out of no where

dreamy charm
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better siren except B2

lethal solstice
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Full charge shots is 150+380+275×2.5 on bosses tho

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So like 1200%

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So full charge is uhhhh

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60% of chair?

frozen moth
lethal solstice
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We should pin a macro guide in general chat

frail umbra
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The meemory absorbtion thing is constant and triggers on battle start?

fluid abyss
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Every 3 sec?

shell dock
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Yup

last hill
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for someone who don have crown is nayuta a good unit to get ?

livid stirrup
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She's good for everyone

frail umbra
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yes a must have if you dont have crown tbh

last hill
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i just start not too long so still stuck at 160 wall cause too little burst 2 so want to get a few support

fluid abyss
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I can't get crown so this is a must

shell dock
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Agreed, must-have if you don't have Crown

warped elm
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The gooner side of my brain is telling me to shuffle my campaign team from Crown/Liter/RRH/RH/THelm to Nayuta/Liter/RRH/RH/Crown. How much of a bad idea is this? Her gacha costume has me acting unwise

frail umbra
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Nayuta/siren/Rapi should make everything die on your screen

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chuck in vesti too kekw

broken falcon
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If I have Helm's treasure, is it worth pull for Nayuta?

shy escarp
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its pilgrim at least 1 copy

shell dock
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You can run practically anything if the deficit is low enough delugiggle

frail umbra
warped elm
shell dock
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I think you could make that work then YesNod

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Biggest issue may be the stages where you need hyper burst gen

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Nayuta's healing isn't going to save people from getting murdered in 3s

frail umbra
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Siren/Nayuta/rapi/xx/Helm?

candid obsidian
warped elm
frail umbra
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crown, vgod or rh maybe yeah

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liberalo too

green pelican
ashen quiver
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@shell shale can you ping kits here too pls

shell shale
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Sure in a bit

shell shale
candid obsidian
ashen quiver
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@shell shale

shell shale
shell shale
brittle anvil
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💀

candid obsidian
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Then I dunno I guess really it's xx

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Wait no xx was crown

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Yo bro but helm there I would put dps

warped elm
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25% of final max HP, split between the party, so 5% per person, for 5 secs. So is that one instance of 5% per person every 5 secs? Or is it like 1% every second for 5 secs?

ashen quiver
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triggers crown

warped elm
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I don't think it would actually change anything, really just curious as to how it works

honest epoch
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makima power creep poggies Kappa

coarse musk
gray spoke
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Nayuta is same team as crown? Who would be bursting?

ashen quiver
ashen quiver
gray spoke
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That’s only for 1 team comps though, right? If it’s raid we split them?

jagged robin
somber lagoon
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She like pilgrim ren

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Rem

jagged robin
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Just woke up reread twice and it literally says “shares hp recovery”

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Yea most likely doesnt trigger crown

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But idk why we need crown in the first place, nayuta looks like siren
A supporter who’s actually just a dps

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And it didnt take long for people to realize siren>liter

delicate geyser
jagged robin
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Idk i pull two copies in 20 pull and wish I mlb her bc she ending being in 90% of my teams

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The other 10% is solo raid teams 2-5

delicate geyser
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ye feeling the same way recently lol

warm basin
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Liter + treasure > Siren someday BlancStare

jagged robin
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Yea lol but were not ready for the crown+treasure

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Actually chime lmao nvm

pearl helm
coarse musk
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Its excludes the share heal

honest epoch
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just test it with rem

shell dock
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so it should work with Nayuta

pearl helm
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yes

shell dock
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Issue with Rem is that since it's lifesteal, it's only one proc

pearl helm
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not from the healing

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from the skill proc

honest epoch
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after shooting

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wait thats helm

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leme redo

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enjoy

jagged robin
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Might be low brain power moment but nothing here applies she heals crown

jagged robin
pearl helm
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yeah rem doesn't work

pearl helm
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maybe nayuta the same, still fine tho

jagged robin
honest epoch
jagged robin
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Again tho why would we use both together

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U dont use siren and liter together

pearl helm
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cause crown is still providing alot even off burst

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and nayuta has dps and heals to sustain

blissful hemlock
pearl helm
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and core dmg buff

blissful hemlock
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U only have 3 choiced

jagged robin
pearl helm
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depends but even in solo raid

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same thing

jagged robin
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For the kraken, tower, and campaign i could definitely see rrh,siren,crown,nayuta, and whoever

barren latch
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question, do you think nayuta is better than grave and bunny ade as general usage units? dont have crown

blissful hemlock
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Crown + MastM: Best generic.
Nayuta + Crown: 2nd best generic, but you now have heal.
Nayuta + SBS + Lib + MastM: Might be best against Wind-weak, for non-Raid content.

pearl helm
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reason why we have mast with crown cause her 3 stack burst is better than crown burst,if nayuta's own dps over performs better than ( which is it should ) a 36% Attk dmg buff for more damage from nayuta when she is also giving buffs it'll just be better

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so mast anchor goes back to being duos

pearl helm
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grave was never a general usage unit

blissful hemlock
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The reason we have mmast

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Is cus of mmast's off burst

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Lol

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35% atk buff permanet

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Crit rate

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Reload spd

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And distributed dmg if use SBS too

barren latch
jagged robin
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Yea but mmast and nayuta have different rolls so it kinda just looked different

barren latch
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man, i just want them to rerun crown

deft wren
warm basin
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Who would be the best pair with Nayuta if Crown is taken?

barren latch
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i cant even use chime now that will get her because she only works with "the king" xd

pearl helm
blissful hemlock
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MMast Nayuta
35% ATK vs 30% ATK
15-45% RLD SPD vs 0%
15% Crit Rate vs 0%
0% vs 25% Core DMG
No Heal vs Heal
Stronger Burst for the Whole Team vs Better Personal DMG than with Crown's Burst but team damage remains more or less the same.

barren latch
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btw, hwo good is nayuta + crown? since nayuta heals every 3 seconds

blissful hemlock
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Worse than Crown + MastM if don't need heal

barren latch
jagged robin
blissful hemlock
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If need heal, you either have Crown + HelmTr + MastM, or Nayuta + Crown/MastM

jagged robin
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B3 cdr when?

blissful hemlock
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That said if u need even more heal

pearl helm
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thing with nayuta with crown for raids you can run maid duos for another, nayuta vs mast it'll just depend on how mucch damage she will do

blissful hemlock
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Nayuta + SBS + Lib + AnchorM for example

deft wren
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Maid duo looks kinda locked in in the sbs+libe pair

blissful hemlock
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Might be the best for blacksnake

pearl helm
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wind is still struggling tho

blissful hemlock
pearl helm
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😔

blissful hemlock
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Its locked

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Siren Crown AsukaW and ReiTN are locked too

deft wren
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Crown with Wasuka and Wrei?

pearl helm
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nah

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yeah

blissful hemlock
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Yes

pearl helm
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💀

jagged robin
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Honestly t1 crown t2 maids t3 nayuta, t4 abe,grave, t5 shotgun

pearl helm
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cause on wind weak nayuta will for sure pump out damage and u want the highest ele advantage dps to be paired with the best supports

blissful hemlock
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Nayuta will go with MirandaTr

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For crit fishing

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Trust

pearl helm
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so nayuta i can easily see being with crown off burst

blissful hemlock
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Wind weak

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Nah

pearl helm
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unless ur crazy enough to do the miranda fish

blissful hemlock
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Im sure its MirandaTr Nayuta MiharaBC SSakura CDR

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And Nayuta be critfishing here

pearl helm
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but support needs higher attack than a b3

blissful hemlock
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She gives herself atk buff

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It depends on how strong ur Mihara is ig

pearl helm
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yeah but for whales u fighting a b3 attacker with high dupes

blissful hemlock
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She should have maybe around 96-98% of Attacker

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From her own kit but this alr includes S2

blissful hemlock
pearl helm
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yes cause that's easier to tweak

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attacker vs attacker

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this is support vs attack

blissful hemlock
pearl helm
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not the cr buff

deft wren
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The crit targets 1

pearl helm
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it's 1 only

blissful hemlock
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As long as Nayuta is in those first 2, the other B3 is out of question

pearl helm
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the idea of miranda with nayuta is for the cr buff not the cdmg

blissful hemlock
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I know

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But Miranda's Burst affects who will get S2

blissful hemlock
pearl helm
jagged robin
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Do I seriously gotta go for miranda treasure during an anni

clever vessel
jagged robin
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Started last year

blissful hemlock
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Let me check out B3 options

blissful hemlock
jagged robin
honest epoch
pearl helm
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casually u don't need it

jagged robin
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Solo raid is end game imo

honest epoch
jagged robin
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So slowly but surely im trying to get there

clever vessel
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Wife

jagged robin
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Top3% last 4 raids

pearl helm
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if ur f2p you'll end up with 1 element that's better than others and can't afford to invest into top 50 raid teams so you'll just run casual 3% teams

lethal solstice
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This anniversary is gonna be so funny

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Two full charge sniper that actually are chair units

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Miranda nayuta chair is gonna go hard if true

jagged robin
pearl helm
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good

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no macro abusing dps

lethal solstice
pearl helm
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lib isn't she wants to always full charge

fossil trench
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hello

lethal solstice
fossil trench
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any verdict of Nayuta ?

pearl helm
lethal solstice
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She loses to 1.8 shots per second chair

jagged robin
pearl helm
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erm

lethal solstice
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So not only are you a loser if you don't chair, you're also a loser if you don't use your boomer hands

pearl helm
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no way lol

fossil trench
lethal solstice
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Horlof has spoken

fossil trench
jagged robin
fossil trench
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oh yea

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she that good huh

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mlb worthy ?

jagged robin
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Dps wise, and i pretty sure pvp wise idk about mlb

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I think lib is a better mlb unit apparently

blissful hemlock
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any rating verdicts?

fossil trench
clever vessel
blissful hemlock
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@honest epoch its hard to rate this unit

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I cant

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think of anything

fossil trench
honest epoch
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i havent looked yet

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she aoes in campaign right?

jagged robin
blissful hemlock
lethal solstice
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I lost my napkin

pearl helm
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💀

honest epoch
pearl helm
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nah it's fine

honest epoch
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does that count

pearl helm
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we'll see it when she's out later

frail umbra
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Judging from what the current b2 tier lists.. looks like she's SSS for everything except pvp (which idk about)

lethal solstice
frail umbra
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well SSS all then.. i don't have a clue about pvp

blissful hemlock
lethal solstice
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Auto invulnerable tank

blissful hemlock
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Idk about Campaign and Boss tbh

jagged robin
blissful hemlock
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this one is harder to evaluate

frail umbra
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Maybe could argue high decifict crown>

blissful hemlock
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her buff is super strong for generic

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even without core

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not Crown good but

jagged robin
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The aoe as a b2 in story looks insane

blissful hemlock
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not BAde/Grave bad

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I think from buff strength it looks like:
Crown > Nayuta > BAde > Grave for generic

frail umbra
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yeah siren/nayuta/rapi just kill everything in campaign

blissful hemlock
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for pierce:
Crown = BAde = Grave > Nayuta

jagged robin
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Siren nayuta and screen clear b3

blissful hemlock
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when you need heal:
Nayuta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

honest epoch
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i personally think usually shield value is higher than heal value

lethal solstice
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That requires you to not get murked before you hurst

honest epoch
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unless they pierce shields

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for deficit pushing

blissful hemlock
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MMast not calculated

frail umbra
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Like does crown taunt/shield>>nayuta aoe in high deficit

blissful hemlock
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she is hard to calculate as offburst

frail umbra
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u get one shot anyway so healing means little

honest epoch
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shield blocks alot when it works

blissful hemlock
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wipe?

honest epoch
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taunt+invuln is huge to burn

honest epoch
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like if ur rapi vesti

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what raptures

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u sent them to heaven

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no aoe

frail umbra
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I think you can rotate them depending on stage... which = sss imo

blissful hemlock
lethal solstice
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Off burst nayuta is basically Naga with no cover repair

shell shale
blissful hemlock
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hmm its hard to say for high deficit

shell shale
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What's the kit actually lemme list it down

blissful hemlock
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I mean we are gonna scrap low deficit anw

blissful hemlock
honest epoch
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if u have a crown s2 proc going it beats nayuta buff no?

blissful hemlock
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lower

blissful hemlock
honest epoch
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also crown has reload support

blissful hemlock
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Crown is 64% ATK for Bursting units + 44% reload speed + 20% from S2 (depends) + 36% ATK DMG

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Nayuta is 30% ATK for ALL + 25% core dmg + 35% ATK DMG

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Crown wins ofc here

shell dock
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don't forget the DEF buffs heh

frail umbra
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So what's the team (no crown).. Siren/Nayuta/rapi + Vesti/RH.. Helm/Mast?

blissful hemlock
jagged robin
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Siren crown rrh nayuta vesti/b3

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Oops didnt read

lethal solstice
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Why vesti

blissful hemlock
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I think SS in high deficit is pretty fair

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but that makes her the same as MastM and Naga

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which is a disgrace to humanity

frail umbra
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She's a god apparently 🙄

honest epoch
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just drop naga

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mmast is pretty good anyuways

jagged robin
honest epoch
blissful hemlock
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I assume yes?

honest epoch
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does naga even deserve SS anymore

blissful hemlock
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that makes sense

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probably not

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LOL

jagged robin
blissful hemlock
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too much skill dmg now

shell shale
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All
35.45% attack damage buff
30.16% ATK buff
25.15% core damage buff

Self
15.2% ATK
20.27% Attack damage
21.05% core damage buff

blissful hemlock
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the only unit in campaign that benefits from Naga fully are 2: Alice and RH, and Rapipi if u count that.. well

honest epoch
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i dont think being same as mmast is disgrace considering crown mmast power

blissful hemlock
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Naga is the disgrace

honest epoch
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u've been disgracing mmast all this time Kappa

blissful hemlock
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If u watch me on maincord

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Im a fan of Crown MMast

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wdym

honest epoch
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same rank as naga

blissful hemlock
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I think we drop Naga to S

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seems fair here

jagged robin
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Mmast is best girl btw

blissful hemlock
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then Nayuta SS would be good

honest epoch
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i think naga has really become a missing units unit sadge

blissful hemlock
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for low deficit, we can put her SSS cus we will scrap that anw

frail umbra
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poor naga already in the same tier as fraudsolute 🤣

blissful hemlock
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now how about bossing

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refresher

low flower
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so wind is basically a bunch of dps

blissful hemlock
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maybe its time to demote RH and BMilk tbh

shell shale
jagged robin
shell shale
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Lemme find my old ones

frail umbra
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She's will be SSS

shell shale
low flower
blissful hemlock
low flower
warped elm
low flower
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also I tagged the wrong person

blissful hemlock
frail umbra
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She can go SS if stuff like Anchor/ade gets moved down i guess

jagged robin
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Its not the same dude that does hsr and zzz right? Cuz those list are terrible

blissful hemlock
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ye but bready and ein are in A though

jagged robin
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Also i think ss maybe s depending on neutral dmg

blissful hemlock
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Oh wait

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can Alice be demoted now

frail umbra
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take milk with her

blissful hemlock
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wait no

low flower
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alice the niche fire unit?

blissful hemlock
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that sounds wrong

jagged robin
blissful hemlock
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lucky you didn't follow it up with an adult jke

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anyways

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SS?

frail umbra
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na

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unless u move others in ss down

jagged robin
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Yea cuz better than naga

blissful hemlock
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move BAde Grave and AnchorM down? Keep Nayuta SS? clueless

clever vessel
frail umbra
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Yeah if ur not putting her SSS.. that's the best solution imo

livid stirrup
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Anchor and Mast cannot be int he same tier

jagged robin
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Sssss

blissful hemlock
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move Mari TEunhwa Naga Blanc down

jagged robin
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The mold is sss tier

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Mole*

shell shale
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Peak team buffs comparison (assumes core hits, target unit has no self buffs)

  • Tia Naga = ×1.45 ×1.3211 ×1.[472×0.8333] = ×2.669
    Core damage buff × attack damage × ATK

  • M.Mast rotation (with M.Anchor) =
    ×1.[(95+.35)×.833] ×1.15 ×1.126
    = ×2.4 for normal units
    ATK × Attack Damage × Crit buffs
    = 2.4 ×1.75
    = ×4.2 for dist dmg skills
    Damage buffs × Dist dmg up

  • Mari = ×1{.3078×0.83} ×1[+.4099+.4099] = ×2.28
    ATK × (Pierce Damage + Attack Damage)

  • Crown = ×1.[6451×0.666] ×1.5723 = ×2.248
    Attack buff × attack damage
    Crown Naga = 2.248×1.45 = ×3.25
    Crown total × Core hit buff
    Crown HelmT = ×1.[6451×0.666] ×1.[5723+.2787] = ×2.64693
    ATK buff × Attack Damage

  • M.Anchor rotation (with M.Mast):
    ×1.[(.65+.35)×.8333] ×1.04
    = ×1.91 for normal units
    ATK × Crit buffs
    = ×1.91 ×1.75
    = ×3.34
    Damage buffs × Dist Dmg Up

  • Blanc Noir = ×1.3926 ×1.1408 ×1.24 = ×1.97
    Damage taken × ATK buff × Damage buff due to Ammo for MGs(?)

  • Grave = ×1[+.482+.3998] = ×1.8818
    Attack Damage + Pierce Damage

  • Crust = ×1[.30×.8333] ×1.2 ×1.6 = ×2.40
    Caster's ATK × Attack Damage × Distributed Damage Buff

  • Nayuta = 1.3545 × 1[.3016×.8333] × 1.1212 = ×1.9
    Attack damage × Caster's ATK × Core Damage Buff

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Nayuta be buffing equal to bunnies I think DoroTHINK

Did I miss anything

blissful hemlock
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SSS: Crown
SS: Nayuta, MastM
S: BAde, AnchorM, Grave, SRosanna
A: Arcana. Trina, ViperTr, Summer Helm(?), TEunhwa

Where would Naga, Blanc, and Mari go though?

shell shale
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Blanc can go A

frail umbra
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I think mari is still close enough to ade to be same tier

shell shale
frail umbra
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hjer ult is kinda useful sometimes

blissful hemlock
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your calculation is in a vaccum without the B3 thats why its wrong

shell shale
blissful hemlock
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targer unit has no self buff

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is just a dumb calculation

shell shale
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Like that's pretty neglible for 99% of the playerbase

blissful hemlock
clever vessel
jagged robin
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Question why blanc/noir why not blanc/rouge

shell shale
blissful hemlock
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Mari is definitely not in the same tier as BAde

jagged robin
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Maintenance so i cant look at noir kit

shell shale
blissful hemlock
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Mari's core requirement is more gay

jagged robin
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Boomer list

blissful hemlock
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no core ggwp

shell shale
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Well same for Nayuta too

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Without core buff she's basically crust

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But crust as dps

blissful hemlock
jagged robin
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Wait so ss with core s without core

honest epoch
shell shale
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Crust is 30% atk buff and 20% atk damage

Nayuta is 30% atk buff and 35% attack damage

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Am I missing smthng

jovial scaffold
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Keen for maint to end so we can see how many parts the boss has

Since neither new banner unit has Pierce I'm gonna guess near zero

shell shale
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Nayuta is literally crust but dps

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And y'all better pray she does dps

blissful hemlock
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the fact that one of them fucking heals

shell shale
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Crust cleanses

honest epoch
blissful hemlock
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Dafuq

honest epoch
blissful hemlock
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How does cleansing > heal/shield

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also 15% ATK DMG is huge

shell shale
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Well not shield but heal is whatever in today's day and age

shell shale
honest epoch
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heal is pretty good in SR

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in deficit pushing shield is king unless pierce shield (which they do alot of)

blissful hemlock
#

even if Nayuta doesnt have a spot

honest epoch
#

like snake

frail umbra
shell shale
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Well anyways comparing to crust is crazy

blissful hemlock
#

she will always have one spot

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its called SG team

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What is Naga cope yes

shell shale
shell shale
blissful hemlock
#

ToveTr Nayuta Doropity BSoda Drake for example

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nothing can beat this if u need heal

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and assuming neutral

proven stirrup
#

honestly I'm prob gonna use that SG team

#

I was thinking about it. the SG team's weakness is that it's always low on heals

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and my Sdoro is really buff

frail umbra
#

Yeah naga had been getting bit of play in shotgun comp over past few raids

low flower
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and good cdr

blissful hemlock
shell shale
wanton sage
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Go my monk, babysit my shotgun babies

low flower
#

is not like your want siren for her dps outside of wind weak bosses

blissful hemlock
#

We know it will be Siren Crown AsukaW ReiTN anyway

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^ will probably be with Naga or DeltaNT for core boss

frail umbra
shell shale
shell shale
#

Raid

blissful hemlock
#

There is no way it isnt

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Lib scales off ATK

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the only B2 with the highest atk buff is Maids

frail umbra
#

oh yeah she's not going with SG this raid probably

jagged robin
#

Holddddd on is nayuta a 40 or 20 sec cd

wanton sage
#

20

blissful hemlock
#

And I would think Volume will be used here

jagged robin
#

It doesn’t say right?

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Ohhh

wanton sage
#

It says on the burst skill description

jagged robin
#

I was bouta put her in A tier

blissful hemlock
#

or it might be Liter

wanton sage
#

There's no way they'd put a 3rd anni unit at 40s

frail umbra
#

Bunnies this raid with SG i guess

shell dock
#

Really depends on how the boss's mechanics line up T4 and T5

blissful hemlock
#

we will likely see Liter SRos Rapipi + neutral DPS being played next raid

jagged robin
blissful hemlock
#

Maybe Liter SRos Rapipi HelmTr MiharaBC

shell shale
#

So it's like

  • Siren crown Wasuka Rei X
  • Rapi Maids SBS lib
  • Tove Nayuta SG
  • Liter Grave Mana Raven Mihara
  • team 5 HUH
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We're still missing a team 5(?)

shell dock
#

Crown NGE2
Seamaids SBS/Lib
SG Comp
S Ros S Sakura Mana Mihara?
Grave Brute Force Pierce comp?

blissful hemlock
#

and then Nayuta will join SG team

frail umbra
#

Nauyta and electric team.. bunnies goes to SG

blissful hemlock
#

last team will be Cindy Rouge SSakura

shell shale
#

Perhaps

blissful hemlock
#

Rapi with Maids instead of B3 u sure?

shell shale
shell shale
#

Rapi was just more consistent burst gen so that's why

shell dock
#

Rapi might actually steal Lib's charge bonus

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since she's coded as B3

blissful hemlock
#

Is Mana sustained dmg

shell dock
#

Remember that she gets Ada's buff

shell shale
blissful hemlock
#

hmm

jagged robin
#

Lib charge bouns is lowest attack no?

shell shale
#

U wanna ditch raven for helm

shell dock
#

Not a lot of it

frail umbra
#

I never invested in mana.. not gonna start now.. rip MilkShocked

lime oar
#

I got x3 ele lines on mana wahahaha

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But she is still 4/7/4

jagged robin
#

I forgot who mana is every time i hear here name tbh

lime oar
#

Mana also works with Miranda

frail umbra
#

i need to check my wind units actually.. from the anni stream.. seemed to be quite a lot of qte

lime oar
#

Her sus ticks always crit with miranda's buff

shell dock
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Siren/Crown/Asuka/Rei/Helm
Volume/M Mast/SBS/Lib/M Anchor
Liter/S Ros/S Sakura/Mana/Mihara
Tove/Nayuta/S Doro/Drake/DKW
Cindy/Rouge/Guilty/Rapi/Raven

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Wait, would S Sakura's multi-hits in burst crit with Miranda treasure?

frail umbra
#

isn't putting bunnies in SG and nayuta somewhere else better then using guilty?

blissful hemlock
shell dock
#

Wind element

blissful hemlock
#

what a beautiful cope

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10/10

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turly doesnt come at the cost of team damage

shell dock
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I mean, no matter what wind unit you put in final comp, it's bad

blissful hemlock
#

what if Nayuta goes in Cindy team

shell dock
blissful hemlock
#

HMMMM

frail umbra
#

if it means not using guilty yeah 😄

shell dock
#

Oh, that's an option

#

ye

lime oar
blissful hemlock
#

and SG team gets Guilty

shell dock
#

Grave in SG for Doro

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Oh, wind element ye

frail umbra
#

SG gets bunnies

blissful hemlock
#

u assume this raid dont need heal>

#

?

shell dock
#

I assume it does

lime oar
#

That's if you have invested in guilty to begin with wahahaha

blissful hemlock
#

surely they make Nayuta

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OP for this raid

shell dock
#

SG with bunnies is basically killing S Doro tho

shell dock
#

Ada proved that Rapi is considered B3 for the purpose of skill buff eligibility

#

Liter is honestly who we probably want with maids for Liberalio to get more ATK

lime oar
#

I get what you mean. And since sbs is always giving herself a shit on of atk she will never be the lowest atk

jovial scaffold
#

Yeah Liberalio can't run with RapiRH and SBS

Liberalio can't run with any B3 and SBS.

If you want off-burst Liberalio you need to give Alice or Mana to SBS instead

shell shale
#

You need to be lowest atk

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To get lib buff

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Liberalio gives more atk buff to herself

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Than sbs does to herself

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So if a new unit like Alice or rapi appear

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They'll steal this charge speed buff

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So u need to use liter as b3 for lib sbs

#

And I think liter is the better choice anyways

shell dock
#

Yup

shell shale
#

Since liter buffs better

blissful hemlock
#
  • Siren Crown AsukaW ReiTN + Naga/DeltaNT
  • Volume Maids SBS Lib
  • Liter BAde Rapipi SSakura HelmTr
  • ToveTr Nayuta Doropity BSoda DrakeTr (if no Guilty)
  • Cindy Rouge Mana Grave Raven/MiharaBC

See this cope.

  • Siren Crown AsukaW ReiTN + Naga/DeltaNT
  • Volume Maids SBS Lib
  • Liter Grave/BAde Rapipi SSakura HelmTr
  • ToveTr BAde BSoda DrakeTr Guilty / ToveTr Blanc BSoda DrakeTr Noir
  • Cindy Rouge SAnis/Mana Nayuta XMaiden/X

Truly beautiful.

lime oar
#

You already have M.Anchor for burst gen anyway , so Liter should be just fine

jovial scaffold
blissful hemlock
jovial scaffold
#

But no better option

shell dock
#

Yeah, we don't have a 10s solid ATK buffing B1, sadly

frail umbra
#

why we using volume with probably our best squad this raid x

jovial scaffold
#

Yeah that's what she actually wants

shell shale
shell dock
#

Volume is very compatible with seamaids, making her probably the second best there

shell shale
#

Cuz 7s she got no atk buff

blissful hemlock
shell dock
#

even if DKW would actually be happy this raid due to seemingly permanent core, she'd be on a different team

jovial scaffold
shell shale
shell dock
#

but SG comp honestly wants CDR because S Doro should go hard on that core, making DKW nice there

shell shale
#

Rapi is but she's gonna steal from libtardio

blissful hemlock
#

No, actually Liter Maids SBS Lib is better

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but

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is it an opportunity cost?

shell shale
blissful hemlock
#

last wind raid said yes

shell shale
frail umbra
shell dock
jovial scaffold
shell shale
blissful hemlock
#

I feel like we will see ToveTr Blanc BSoda Noir Guilty again ngl

lethal solstice
#

guilty sex

shell shale
#

Dorogoat is in now

shell dock
#

Imagine not using S Doro on a boss with 100% core

frail umbra
#

Na dude was right Nayuta/doro will go hard

blissful hemlock
#

its 100% core

shell shale
#

Tove Nayuta Doro soda noir surely

shell dock
#

It was in the gameplay

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The head of the humanoid part is the core

blissful hemlock
#

100% core huh

shell dock
#

Moves around a lot tho

blissful hemlock
#

for the raid?

#

Crown Naga will be played for sure

shell dock
#

Lemme look at the vid again (bad gameplay, so can be hard to tell)

blissful hemlock
#

or will Tia Naga see light again?

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cus she doesnt like core

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thats her source of dmg

shell dock
#

God the team comp they used for the raid preview was terrible

frail umbra
#

is delta actually any good for this raid.. i completely forgot her skills other then she's wind kekw

blissful hemlock
#

AsukaW and ReiTN might actually not go with Crown because of this

shell dock
#

Siren = SMG
Chime = SMG
Nayuta = Half-SMG
RH = Never controlled manually
Modernia = On-Burst delucringe

blissful hemlock
#

Im assuming

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it will be Siren Crown Rapipi

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Naga

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and AsukaW and ReiTN can go with Liter grave whatever

shell dock
#

Tove/Crown/S Doro/RH/DKW CopiumAnimated

blissful hemlock
#

where is the wind unit

frail umbra
#

maybe he meant nauyta

blissful hemlock
#

I think its BMilk time

jagged robin
shell dock
#

Just facetank QTE surely

blissful hemlock
#

Siren Crown Rapipi XLud Naga

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surely

#

is the play

shell dock
#

Ah, I was half-wrong

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Core is higher than the face

blissful hemlock
#

or will BMilk be better there

shell dock
#

but it is permanent

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Of course it would be with both features having core damage

#

then December raid will be coreless KEKL

#

Lump-of-Coal water-weak Gluttony

blissful hemlock
#
  • Siren Crown Rapipi XLud Naga
  • Volume Maids SBS Lib
  • Liter Grave AsukaW ReiTN HelmTr
  • ToveTr
  • Cindy Rouge
#

done

#

wait

shell dock
#

T5 cope: Miranda/Diesel/Snow White/RH/Ada heh

blissful hemlock
#

i smell Cindy will be dead in this raid

jagged robin
#

No xlub or rei

shell dock
#

Yeah, I don't think we'll have Cindy

jagged robin
#

Who to replace with

shell dock
#

Snow White more likely as brute force T5 if pierce is applicable

blissful hemlock
dreamy charm
blissful hemlock
dreamy charm
#

I don't recall SG being used this time

shell dock
#

Lemme look at RH's hits in the gameplay

dreamy charm
#

no stonk wind SG

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🚮

blissful hemlock
#

Doropity is stonks against core

shell dock
#

S Doro brute force, so just throw in a casual Noir or Guilty/Nayuta delugiggle

dreamy charm
#

won't be able to beat other monsters

blissful hemlock
#

are u sure

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dw we will get MirandaTr Nayuta cope

dreamy charm
#

Rei - Asuka
SBS - Lib
These 2 duos are out of question

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then we have
Rapi
Mihara
Raven
Milk
Cinderella and her bitches

shell dock
#

Looks like RH is only doing single procs

honest epoch
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ill worry about my teams when it comes out i think

dreamy charm
#

oh so no pierceable?

shell dock
#

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dreamy charm
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yike

shell dock
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Timestamped

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Nayuta and Lib have core damage but no pierce, so not surprised tbh

verbal stump
#

was the guy from yesterday right?

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not even 10% crown/siren

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whatever he coped tbh

shell dock
#

Who said that? yabai

verbal stump
#

direct link

shell shale
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looks nice

honest epoch
#

@shell shale if u lb3 lib ill lb3 lib

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i wont

shell shale
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idk what to do anymore

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all my life was based on a false hope

blissful hemlock
#
  • Siren Crown Rapipi XLud Naga
  • Volume Maids SBS Lib
  • Liter Grave/BAde SSakura Mana MiharaBC
  • ToveTr Nayuta Doropity BSoda DrakeTr
  • AsukaW Rouge ReiTN BAde/Grave HelmTr
honest epoch
#

time to retire

shell shale
#

well she's here ig

blissful hemlock
#

hang on a sec

shell shale
#

do i care about xmas eenuf

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idkkk

honest epoch
#

remeber when snake was going to retire like 2 years ago

shell shale
#

i got top 10 with my union and liberalio is here the criteria has been reached

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top 50 sr remains ig but i never really tried for it

blissful hemlock
#

no itis not the way

candid obsidian
#

I hope she will help me push hard campaign

dreamy charm
#

pray to Vesgod

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not false god

blissful hemlock
#

Guys give me ratings

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shud we yeet everything 1 tier down

shell dock
#

Crown stays kgun

honest epoch
#

Like top of ss vs bottom of ss

blissful hemlock
#

its alphaetical

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I think TEmma and TEunhwa should be A

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Dorothy should be B.

shell dock
#

That's where I have her on my tier list, ye

blissful hemlock
#

ToveTr should be S

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not SS

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then yeet everyone down 1 tier

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easy

frail umbra
#

Rouge doesnt deserve to be higher then tovetr

blissful hemlock
#

Volume DWife ExiaTr should be A.

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Dorothy shoud be B.

shell dock
#

That's how I have B1s

blissful hemlock
#

ToveTr should be S. Tia goes to A. MirandaTr goes to A.

frail umbra
blissful hemlock
#

wait there is nothing left in S

shell dock
#

(Miranda not shown cuz I make several lists, and I don't consider Miranda "core" quite yet for generalist purposes)

blissful hemlock
#

MirandaTr stays in S

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ToveTr dropped to S

shell dock
#

She needs to prove herself in Wind/Water before I'll consider her a core generalist unit delul

blissful hemlock
#

Idk but a B1 that only works with SG is not a good SS placement

shell dock
#

But SG is basically always there

blissful hemlock
#

in solo raid only

shell dock
#

Ah fair

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Can also be a third comp for people in the unfortunate position of having to triple-team the same UR boss

blissful hemlock
#

SSS: Rapipi, Siren
SS: Liter, Rouge, (ToveTr)
S: ToveTr, MirandaTr, Tove
A: DWife, Volume, Tia, TEmma
B: Dorothy, etc

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is dwife still even used nowadays

shell dock
#

With Miranda, yes

#

Fire/Electric raids

blissful hemlock
#

so just CDR slave

#

gay

#

A tier

shell dock
blissful hemlock
#

the ToveTr vs Tove is what wonders me

#

technically

#

they are the same

frail umbra
#

What happens to rouge when cindy gets pushed out.. i feel like sg/tove is more safe now with the addition of draketr and doro

#

Nauyta too even

shell dock
#

Nah, normal Tove needs Max Ammo rolls and/or tons of resets for proper damage

blissful hemlock
#

still the same total damage

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still the same presence rate

shell dock
#

Also, 15s buffs vs 10s buffs is a decent difference if B Soda is in comp

blissful hemlock
#

with good RNG

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tovetr is 15s?

shell dock
#

ye

blissful hemlock
#

oh

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damn

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I missed tha

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wtf

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LOL

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FUCK BACK TO MY COLLECTION ITEM LISST

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ok SS is fine then

shell dock
#

It was why Phase 2 was actually important to rush

frail umbra
#

Phase 3 was barely a buff kekw

shell dock
#

Yup

low flower
#

How good is nayuta dps chat

shell dock
#

Looking like comparable to Siren last I saw math talk of her

fierce portal
#

wind team is dps chart gonna be all equal soon

balmy basin
#

We need to powercreep the other elements instead cause kraken doesn't need any more units to beat him up

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Mc and ultra need some love too

blissful hemlock
#

than

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siren

low flower
#

N

#

I

#

C

#

E

hidden valley
jagged robin
jagged robin
proven stirrup
#

D: Killer wife not on the "Good B1" list?

#

how's that work

hidden valley
jagged robin
hidden valley
#

Which is hilariously sad. SyuenLaughingAtYou

jagged robin
#

MirandaTR is the one i would replace dkw with but everyone top 100 is using MirandaTR, I just dont have her to know how good she really is

jagged robin
hidden valley
#

Unfortunately, he's not like Land Eater and gets a badass upgrade.

topaz fox
# verbal stump was the guy from yesterday right?

Of course I was right. Nayuta is maybe on the level of a summer pilgrim. WAY below what should be expected of 3rd Anni. Literally almost no reason to even pull if you have Crown. Not sure why people wouldn't believe me.

jagged robin
#

Rage bait?

topaz fox
#

The maffs don't lie bro. Calculated total dmg was approximately 60% of Crown team.

gilded flower
#

Is Nayuta worth mlb?

topaz fox
#

Crown team sim :182,000,000
Same team with Nayuta: 109,000,000.

Same tier as Naga and Grave.

livid stirrup
#

I still think it's better to see which of these two is gonna get a huge buff during the anni, if any

livid stirrup
#

Actually, Cindy's surprise buff was also the beginning of BehemothLaugh solo raid breaking

topaz fox
livid stirrup
#

Nayuta will be used in every SR, so idk what more reason you need

jagged robin
#

She not gonna be better than crown

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But if her dmg is high mixed with good heals every 5 secs and invincibility in pvp she gonna be an amazing unit

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Plus aoe screen clear for story/tower

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Ss at minimum

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Worth mlb well should only be answered after a couple days of the unit being out

jagged robin
#

Sure numbers dont lie but human error is as common as air

idle flare
#

I'm just gonna get a copy/gacha costume

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Maybe mlb

jagged robin
#

Wait till lib comes out see how see is and mlb 1 of the two if anything

shell shale
#

Should You Pull Nayuta / Is Nayuta Good?

**TLDR: ** Yes, she is good, but not as good and universal as Crown. Think of Nayuta as the Best Wind(WindCode) Burst 2 Unit, and the second best B2 unit for every other PvE content.

Note: There is a chance that her self-DPS is enough to bring her over Crown in general PvE content as well, but I think Crown's buffs are better personally when Nayuta does not enjoy elemental damage buffs. This will have to be tested. Regardless:

I recommend pulling one copy at least. Dupes are recommended for players who want to try-hard in raids. High cores are recommended for players who are interested in placing high in Wind Raids. Mileage over Pulls because 1% banner!

Why is she good?

Nayuta vs Crown as B2 are reminiscent of the Siren vs Liter debate. Liter was primarily a buffer and a much better one compared to Liter. However, Siren provided different types of utility, mainly in the form of DPS which made up for any lack of buffs she had.

Similarly, Nayuta provides less buffs, but makes up for it with different types of utility: DPS in exchange for extra buffs and high value heals instead of shields and taunts. This puts Nayuta and Crown on roughly a similar bracket for most players probably. However, in my opinion, I think that since different stages/bosses have different elemental DPS dealing tons of damage, the B2 that buffs more (Crown) will have the advantage in general content. Nayuta will, however, have her say in Wind Weak content, since she deals so much damage thanks to elemental damage that she might as well be a main DPS for Wind!

Nayuta also has a cheeky indomitability, which comes along with buffs and a decent value AoE on her burst, that could be useful in PvP!

shell shale
# haughty yarrow But wheres the math?

in the assignments i need to submit in the next 2 hours before sleeping sadge

I did rough stuff nthng concrete so i just wrote a general idea of what i think of nayuta for now, math can be done tmrw

gatrix did math and said that she's a bit above siren in terms of dps, and since i think she's a better buffer nayuta will prolly do more than just fine scrajj

mystic aurora
#

question is, is she good enough to get gacha skin

balmy basin
#

She has a gacha skin no?

sharp kindle
#

"Liter was primarily a buffer and a much better one compared to Liter." typo?

jagged robin
#

10/10 base design
11/10 gacha skin

#

Maybe a 9 9.5 base design for the sticklers out there

mystic aurora
#

she's still good

#

I mean I have naga gacha skin afterall

daring flare
#

I like her more than crown just because of the straightforward heals

mystic aurora
#

I like crown's shielding more personally

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as it can tank a large attack

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while not harming cover

gilded flower
#

what skill levels and ol stats?

slate scaffold
brazen blaze
#

"Conduct Nayuta recruitment 700 times" lol gtfoh

daring flare
#

don't need to roll ammo for once because she has unlimited ammo in burst

jagged robin
#

Rolled two black line ammo’ssadge

mystic aurora
#

ok so she just builds like a dps

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atk and elemental

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that's it

#

is she 10/10/10?

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I assume so

jagged robin
#

Seems so

past dirge
#

Where tests

green pelican
#

nice skip btw dude

idle flare
#

"Skip they said, lmao even"

green pelican
#

probably one of the most dogshit takes ive heard in a while

brittle anvil
#

💀

lime oar
#

She does not benefit from charge speed right KEKsbadman

topaz fox
brazen blaze
#

@topaz fox

green pelican
brazen blaze
#

Ignore me, fat fingered

green pelican
#

"almost no reason to pull"

#

So someone did the math. Seems like a slight upgrade vs Naga.

past dirge
#

What are the invests in that pic

green pelican
#

does naga do 5 bil

granite geyser
#

Damn she just out for 30 mins and theres already ragebait

chrome oak
spring whale
#

Nayuta's dmg is pretty crazy wtf

green pelican
#

90 ele 38 atk

ruby viper
#

uhm lolwhat are they talking about

green pelican
#

for ppl who dont understand

chrome oak
#

we now have crown, grave, nayuta for our BIS b2s for union raid

#

seems really good

ruby viper
chrome oak
#

to me

lyric turret
green pelican
green pelican
#

this is why you dont doompost before the kit is actually ingame and tested

#

TCs dont mean shit

mystic aurora
green pelican
#

will go bonkers

mystic aurora
#

wait, what about in neutral

past dirge
# ruby viper

Can you test again with crown, and compare total dmg

topaz fox
green pelican
#

this isnt cherry picking

mystic aurora
green pelican
#

shes obviously not crown level

ruby viper
#

yeah i will, my crown is 10 10 10. Nayuta 7 7 7.

Nayuta 92 ele, 10 atk

green pelican
#

but saying shes a skip

mystic aurora
#

is stupid

green pelican
#

medicore aniv unit

#

slight upgrade from naga

#

is just wrong

mystic aurora
#

does she not scale off atk?

#

like for her buffs

ruby viper
#

yeah couldnt get any atk rolls, want to save them for lib for now

mystic aurora
#

oh wait nvm

#

her buffs scaling off atk are caster atk

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not final

ruby viper
#

oh wait nvm i lied 20% atkl

mystic aurora
#

so atk rolls are purely for dmg

ruby viper
#

i cant math

mystic aurora
#

XD

green pelican
#

no offense but man, this snsi guy doesnt realise you need more than 1 team in the endgame kekDepp

mystic aurora
#

now she can become a "dps" as well with the help of chime!

jagged robin
mystic aurora
#

isn't chime's burst buff the highest amount of attack damage buff in the game so far?

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it's like 97% or smth isn't it?

topaz fox
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The statement says "Literally almost no reason to pull IF you have Crown".
Stop trying to change that around, and try the same thing with Crown.
If your damage is higher then I will gladly rescind my statement.

mystic aurora
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92.44%

rugged kiln
low flower
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stop unnecessary yapping dorowhip

jagged robin
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Bro

mystic aurora
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I think this guy is covering his ears (or his eyes in this case), no way u can be this dumb

jagged robin
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Get a grip

coarse musk
spring whale
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My own testing showing that my nayuta with half the ele and atk of my siren is doing about the same dmg as my siren CrownGoofy

idle flare
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Story mode is hard?

low flower
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where c7 100 ele 50 atk test

shy escarp
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nayuta ol?

idle flare
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Ele atk

green pelican
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shes literally a tier behind crown

glossy halo
coarse musk
astral frost
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i assume she wants reload cube since unlimited ammo in burst?

green pelican
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ill ask though

jagged robin
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Tldr yes

ruby viper
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10 10 10 crown

green pelican
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aight runner is doing crown test

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@coarse musk

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3min

ruby viper
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so if nayuta is 10 10 10 she should be slightly behind crown

past dirge
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What's total team damages