#[Ada Wong] New Unit Megathread
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even if we add 1 more dps its still kinda slacking
tbh
at best we have 3 teams +1 dps
the options are extremely limited 
No, the flex options depend on Jill
100%
8 AM or 10 AM
Surely 10.AM
inb4 no announce and they just let it happen with maint

none of it matters until we see the boss anyways tbh
and we have union raid before next sr right
Gluttony.
why most collab characters (except SRs and Mari) are B3?
why they don't make a SSR B1 Abnormal?
it's not exclusive to collabs, b3 are just easier to sell as raid features, because they need not to be meta.
There are still a lot of dps slots to fill accross all elements, so as long as they strong in their niche, ppl will pull for them just to stay competitive in solo or union raids.
b1 and b2 are much harder to sell. Make them weak => no one pull. Make them strong, they will stay relevant for very long
you wanna powercreep b3 slot for money not b1 and b2
Nier and Eva1 are fire
Re:Zero is Water
Eva2 is Wind
SB is Iron
RE will be both Electric then?
it is not known
(probably)
and hopefully we never have another collab again
there's one for every element
yeah sure that will happen 😂
whatdya mean, we're in the maximum milking phase
we're getting at least 3 collabs per year 
i am so not getting 3% next sr
i don't have the scarlet and isabel bottoms built and i don't want to build collab units
they sell well based on fomo
so you don't even need to have a lot of effort
yeah one copy
i can't wait for all the people pulling core max ada because 60% attack share on an attacker
and then complaining about being broke for anni
Pulling pilgrim, couldn't be me
Is ada stellar blade level 
If wanting max synchro levels (or plan to someday) and want to be safe: MLB
If "who the hell cares" and want to be safe: 0LB
If "Abnormal can diaf": Skip or 0LB
If "I'm broke": Skip or 0LB
If "LOBBY CUTSCENE. I MUST HAVE IT": MLB
Note: Gacha costume doesn't need MLB to get lobby skill cutscene.
If "I don't know how much money I have, my butler takes care of that": MCB

luckily it only buffs 1 unit
what if
they release content that fixes your sync at 800
then getting core gives huge advantage
go c7 her
They do have Museum flex contests. No synchro cap there
Just shooting range test it. The combo that does most damage wins. It fluctuates wildly based on OLs. If MPriv is astoundingly strong, she should be strongest with Drake and BSoda. The problem is whether SDoro can do enough damage to justify replacing the other B3 SG and which
iirc MPriv isn't "10 seconds duration" but "during Full Burst", right?
yup
■ Activates when hitting 30 time(s) using pellets during Full Burst Time. Affects self.
Reload 1 round(s).
ATK ▲ 11.22%, stacks up to 5 time(s) and lasts for 2 sec.
So BSoda doesn't drag her down unlike BSoda trying to drag down SDoro
What do you mean, I think these do go together already?
I mean, I thought it was common knowledge by now. I guess not?
i never tried
Ah
Oh did you mean to put all 5 in one team? 
yes
I don't think that works if you meant that
Arcana is 40s cd
Yep, bricked team
The two comps in one that was spoken about before was Isabel + Arcana and Scarlet + Trina. But they also spoke about putting them in two separate teams because we didn't have enough Electric carries anyway to cover all 5 teams
watch leona get used and mari/grave is benched
i predicted it was going to be Electric
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1OKuTFbYAAwwxT.jpg
Jill's thread when?
did u also predict true dmg? 


If Rapi use burst 1 will it be counted as burst 3 since Rapi is technically listed as a burst 3 that will affect Ada's skill
Based on JP text, shouldn't work
EN text indicates it should work, which is shocking. What's the difference in JP text?
EN text doesn't indicate it either, because the wording is identical to Crown's
The Japanese word used for "previously" means "just before," as in "used before the full burst in which this skill was activated"
So say you have a team of Cindy/Rouge/Ada/B Ade/X Maiden,
Rouge → B Ade → Cindy (Cindy gets Ada S1)
Rouge → B Ade → Ada (Ada gets Ada S1)
At the end of battle, Rouge → B Ade → X Maiden (X Maiden gets Ada S1)
The part that's causing confusion is that it says "all B3 units," and that's why I said before that I think it's a contingency measure for compatibility with re-cast units 
I guess to be safe this will simply get tested asap
If RRH gets the buff while B1, that's cool. If not, np, that's the intuitive normal we're expecting.
But the "previously cast their burst skill(s)" part is the same wording in both EN and JP to Crown
Oh wait, now I see what you replied to, my bad
RH also has the same "issue"
Imagine, she is in the fight, casts B1, and then others take it rest of the way. Should RH also get Ada Wong's buff?
Unlike RRH, she's not even pretending to be a B1. She's a B3 that casted a B1 burst
Lemme give the proper answer since I answered the wrong question above
Burst Stage 3 is the unit that used a burst at Burst Stage 3
I take back what I said about RH.
She's actually a special burst type.
Burst 3 is a unit that bursts at burst stage 3
If it said Burst 3 allies, then Rapi would work even if B1
But Burst Stage 3 means they'd have to burst at that stage
Orrrrrr maybe not, hold up 
Looking at Arcana's skills, the EN is different, but the JP is the same
If JP is correct, then yes, Rapi could use it even if B1
Unless they have weird coding
Well, they did have wording that implied Helm can AoE nuke with burst
See how that translated to gameplay
That was EN only 
EN has such a bad track record that I hesitate to trust it
meaning we'll just have to test to see how the coding treats Rapi
Going by co-op, she's always B3 even if she can do a B1 burst 
try correlating with KR
and TW
i have 0 trust in TH tho
Sadly I only know how to read Hangul
I don't actually know Korean 
And I trust machine translation about as much as I trust SU's EN localization team
its probably the same team

nah, I've seen mistakes that even MTL can do correctly
they used grok instead of chatgpt maybe
i feel like thats most of ai in its current state
over promise under deliver
Who is more worth building if I can only choose one, Ada or Jill? I don’t have enough Abnormal attacker
Jill's damage can't really be predicted until we know how her S2 works exactly
That's a question for two weeks from now 
ok boomer
the collabs are underwhelming… right? From the artstyle to the skills
she seems like an off burst helm type
but we already have off burst helm at home
and mmast
and to a lesser extent stuff like xlud, naga(+crown), mihara, xmaiden and idk shelm
weird way to gaslight yourself into not pulling
Collab so ass it made me try hard on the current raid
Because the next one is gonna be an ada check
There are so many good off burst units
Duos rotting
Team 1 maid mast off burst, team 2 ada off burst, team 3 thelm off burst, team 4 xlud off burst, for team 5 you have xmaiden/seleggs/mihara/drake for electro/water/fire/sg
And then you're supposed to fit in absolute somewhere 
Who?
She needs eunhwa to not be a cripple
At least eunhwa can do something by herself
Even if B2 DPS is a meme
Hey if B3 CDR true damage pilgrim is confirmed, maybe they'll use it to push B2 dps
Eunhwa and grave are both fire

And B2 DPS support is the only way to make an interesting fire dps that won't immediately get squished by Rapi and Mihara's massive dicks
Yeah me
Fun fact: during the beta test, the sweater has a boob window and open back, but yeah... look what Capcom took from us.

skip?
yes, give me your luck 😄
🔥
Beta's Ada, also Capcom remove silver chain as well.
I think because Capcom want Ada to dress professionally, style with slightly sexy, as sweater hug her curves, but for NIKKE players, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!
As bad as ShiftUp try to censor skins.
what's Ada official costume in RE

you are in collab, not some fan art bullshit
Capcom said and SU agreed, no otherwise

in neutral, assuming cindy is still used
would she just replace xmaiden?
better atk buff
dmg probably good enough with the 210% per sec
can just spam her for gen since her autos are useless
and just cindy + sanis burst, unless ada burst is somehow better than sanis
actually ig her dmg is prob a lot lower than xmaiden
Is she clip? At least for pvp use
Yes clip cuz crossbows don’t have mags
but fr tho have to wait till maint finish
she's mag
Yes, Ada burst instead.
But xmaid has nuke
Hard to say
I think xmid is still better
better personal dmg, but wouldn't ada buff cindy more
What's xlud skill buff 20% defenders attack for 10 sec on burst vs 60% attacker attack?
Yes
I feel like Sanis buffs more
Sanis buffs Cindy autos on off burst
Ada doesn't
she ain't gonna mag on the crossbow 
Ofc she is
She loads 1 arrow, then shoots several times with it
Nikke magic
crossbow is the best weapon Ada have
So what was the conclusion to Ada's 60% attack buff working for b1 rapi red hood? We shall wait and see?
EN implies that it wouldn't work, JP implies it would (assuming Rapi doesn't have special coding), so wait and see
If that's the case then I bet on not working
Arcana's wording in EN is different
"Burst 3" vs "Burst Stage 3"

but it's also EN 
I'm going to assume coding-wise it won't work tho 
Yeah en is en like toves treasure
Affects all shotgun wielding allies vs affects all allies with shotgun. Who tf made that
I'm talking about burst
I don't trust en with wording
Don't forget the classic "Deals continous damage" on X Guillo and "Attacks continuously" on X Maiden
which is to say "Deals sustained damage" and "Attacks continuously" 
JP is the same wording for both Arcana and Ada, so only reason it wouldn't work is coding stuff
I wouldn't be surprised if they coded rapi in a way so it won't work
Yup, that's my thought
If 40s burst, works. If 20s burst, doesn't work 
watch it work on RH B1 and B2 but not Rapi B1 
Anis buff reload if you don't use crown. 
Arcana requires the unit to be electric tho 
Why would it work on rapi
Depends on whether she counts as all 3 bursts like red hood or just one
Rapi b1 Rh b2
Attack buff stonks
Wait what if it works on red hood 3 times 
Rapi is marked as a B3 unit
despite being able to be a B1
Meanwhile RH realistically shouldn't work with Ada at all cuz she's flex burst
We're wondering if Ada will work with Rapi B1 
Arcana obviously wouldn't work with her
If ada buffs rapi b1 then how good that is compared to buffs helm or maid mast give? (In a team with crown) I'm asking for campaign and tower pushing purposes
For campaign/tower, Rapi should be B3 
Oh ok
Ow mam
can just treat us her as a RL buffer. Dmg wise around Maiden
So above sanis DMG?
Original RL buffer
Bis prob Cindy ada for cc/behemoth now right?
probably
Cindy doesn't care much about reload. She wants to prolong her shooting time
well if nothing else then reload is just fine
Ada burst start of full burst won't snapshot b3 anyways right
Cuz b3 is well before full burst?

And buff has to exist at the moment of b3 press
dunno, at least I know Maxwell burst scans her own S1
I was thinking Cindy burst with ada
Cindy won't get burst dmg snapshotted in ada buff
Building her as we speak, I will be able to give her a try once I am at home
How good is she?
So how's Ada? I'm hearing she isn't...the best, especially when compared to Jill on paper.
Has a place in my SP arena
Could work with Mihara and Snow White + Miranda in their respective SR element weakness
To guarantee get the crit rate buff
I guess more focus is on Jill...although we can't get her yet.
does everyone think jill is gonna be good?
I have no idea man.
I'm already on the fence because of the whole "true damage" nonsense.
lol i see, im guessing this collab event isnt made to be taken too seriously
I've just been burning my resources on NOT getting S. Anis.I had to ticket her to finally get my hands on her.
Why Mihara as comp?
New member for Miranda
Who should I compare her to? I think against S.Anis the difference will be quite noticeable
Interesting. 1/1/1 and she is almost buffing Ein as much as S.Anis
MirandaTr Grave Ein Ada DWife pls
Just want the dmg
Hmm I mean its hard to gauge with uninvested Ada
But we can project
is she like just a pure buffer cuz her damage is kinda...
The testers died.
For fire weak sure.
sus full auto test, ended at the very end of xmaiden burst sequence, so prob just focus on cindy dmg, second one ended at end of cindy burst, so lost several seconds there, prob gen loss from ade
ele adv
burst gen is all over the place, too lazy to manual
nvm she seems worse than sanis or xmaiden
game performance sucks now
This was my 1/1/1 Ada buffing Ein vs 10/10/10 s.anis buffing ein
I get freezing once in a while
in every game mode
pulling? freeze
pve? freeze
pvp? freeze
every patch is just a gamble on whether they make performance worse or undo the performance nerfs that the last patch did
Btw Ada 60% atk buff work on rapi b1 but not rh lol
Really?
she is on b1
she does get it, interesting
seems rapi even when in B1 is coded as a B3 and her burst state is flipped to true if no b1. That is my assumption
yes
RH is coded to have a burst 1/2/3 specifically
Rapi has her condition built into her S1 that checks actively
ok i think... off burst buffer only. Will have to wait for testers, but her dmg is kinda meh, but her buffs are good for any b3 true damage enjoyer i guess
ill run it rn
can u crit cheese with both
wait
position matters
Ada must be tot he left of MirandaTr
yup i think so
do like Grave Ein Ada MirandaTr DWife
I had more total damage when using S Anis as flex and Ada as B3
beware, this team is kinda ass as im still building the crit team, but i guess itll give a rough idea
what next?
Can we talk about how they are slowly standardizing the collab/event specific tickets ?
Where is my dude that was preaching it was a one time thing onthe first and last collab rerun ?
can u compare
with lets say
siren crown ein ada mastm
yeah i can do that real quick
Thank you for your service.
inb4 they nerf b1 rrh interaction
Do you know your MirandaTr's investment?
yeah, 4 7 7. OL level 0
Treasured?
yup
Well that doesnt help cus its not guaranteed crit yet.

I think God Frankyub can help us.
I think he has MirandaTr.
okok good good
Isn't true damage ass in shooting range?
To recap:
Can anyone with built MirandaTr (min. 1/10/10) and Ada test:
- BAde Ein Ada MirandaTr DWife
- Siren Crown Ein Ada MastM
Exact team order, except Team 2.
yeah i think so
Boss has 100def
so, mida wong?
Yes, but I just need comparison between the two teams to cook SR better.
I'd assume BAde can go to Cindy and Crown can go here.
But it feels wrong to me.
Like this team.
this was AFK Ein for all of her feathers to crit during her burst
4/10/10 Miranda
1/1/1 Ada
Good test. Thank you.
Compared to your Helm team, I guess it's around 25% weaker, but Ada is not built, when built maybe 15-20%.
Yeah AFK Ein isn't really a good strat hahaha
let me get Ada to 7/7/7 and compare the damages
Cindy Rouge SAnis BAde XMaiden
Siren Crown Ein Ada MastM
Liter Trina Scarlet Raven Mihara/HelmTr
ToveTr Arcana Isabel Doropity Dolla
Volume Grave Jill Rapipi HelmTr/Mihara
Cindy Rouge SAnis BAde XMaiden
Siren Crown Ein Ada MastM
Liter Trina Scarlet Arcana Isabel
ToveTr Leona Doropity PrivM X
Volume Grave Jill Rapipi HelmTr/Raven/Mihara
It's Gluttony.
No parts. Don't think Raven will do anything.
Mihara has damage distance, though.
What if it's Rapipi Grave Jill HelmTr Mihara...
Would Mari being Electric be better in the first team, though...

7/7/7 Ada
Are we winning chat? 
No ele
Yes.
3 Ols

She is a buffer first.
I will do a full auto with the first team I tried with
Her damage is what it is.
Ada to the right of MirandaTr will not make her get MirandaTr's buff.
Btw.
Good enough.
Ein get 70% atk during her burst
Good enough to be relevant in SR.
you think someone else will be stealing that buff? 
All "good enough" units should be pulled anyway if you care about SR.
You can not invest in them.
Just get them.
Invest can be a later problem.
Ada.
With Burst + S1.
Will steal Ein.
If she's placed to the left of MirandaTr.
But the difference is not that big.
That team still sucks anyways.
Unless on Ada's rotation, you were still crit fishing with Ein.

ofc I was quick spamming during Ada's burst
Well, whoever gets MirandaTr's buff won't change that Ein did better spamming.
her s2 is single target in pvp lmao
Hmm, actually.
Frankyub.
The boss has core.
So, it might be a bit different in Gluttony.
I can also try quick spamming to the top of the boss
that should still count as a hit but not give core damage
Just do her rotation only.
One Full Burst if you want.
Good enough for SR.
Well, now she's just Alice in disguise.
Or an omega supporter.
B tier or A.
Well, Alice is A.
She should be A.
Bossing, I would place her in S.
she's xmaiden but worse in pvp

except she buffs better, that's it
For both stories, A.
So, A-A-S-A.
If u think Jill is better, no.
Jill might have good PvP burst gen though.
Not crap.
She might pair with Mihara in Fire weak instead of HelmTr.
that sounds like cope
if scar gen is whatever, I don't expect jill to be any better
If you don't need healer, Ada is better.
No core Ein, might have slipper a few core shots but 90% of them were non core
MirandaTr SRos X Mihara DWife was her team, right?
so AFK Ein did better than this by 300M
Or something similar.
Ada buffs Mihara better in this comp than HelmTr.
If you don't need healer.
Well, Ada heals.
But only two units.
I don't think anyone can run Miranda Sros HelmTr Mihara DWife.
Cus some people have HelmTr too strong.
She bricks them.
Mihara not getting crit buff.
You know what.
imagine bricking helmt, ain't me
I ran that for Ziz
was onboard low atk helmt from the very start
Cuz my HelmTr is 26atk only 
Just make sure Ada is weaker than Mihara.
Wait, no.
It doesn't matter.
Just make sure you place Ada to the **left **of Miranda.
Wait.
@kind girder Does Mihara crit fishing team also require crit fishing in Helm's rotation?
And her own rotation?
No, during Helm's burst you are getting stacks of her DoT
Oh, ok, Ada to the left of Miranda is correct, then.
you need to fire 400 bullets during her off-burst for full stacks
Now, does Ada do better crit fishing or spam attack.

I think Ada crit fishing does better idk.
4200% + True DMG buff.
I "think" Ada might be featured as a unit in:
- Fire-Weak: Grave Ada MiharaBC MirandaTr X
- Solves HelmTr too strong problem.
- MiharaBC deals more damage.
- Ada synergizes with MirandaTr and also deals damage.
- Electric-Weak: With Ein.
- Iron-Weak: Cope with LaplaceTr or possible synergy with SW.
- Water-Weak: 'Til the day we get True DMG Water.
- Wind-Weak: 'Til the day we get True DMG Wind.

assuming cindy is gonna still be relevant in neutral
doesn't she just beat xmaiden
Hard to say.
unless xmaiden dmg is high enough to offset the buff
XMaiden nukes.
Plus Neutral Cindy is dying now.
The past few raids, Cindy team got two invaders Raven and Mihara.
XMaiden should only be worth it if all the B3 are Electric.
And SAnis is unoptimal too if all the B3 isn't Electric.
Introducing Ada. Idk cope, Ig.
Fire-weak, Ada will go with Mihara.
Electric weak with Ein.
Water weak, good question. Idk.
Wind weak, good question. Idk.
We might get like Cindy Rouge NewB3 Mari Ada or something.
Iron weak, we will probably go Cindy Rouge RH Mari/BAde Mihara again.
cut the yap, mida or godda?
ok guys im confused here, shouldnt you always get the buff with how its worded after bursting? Like if you are a B3
We need her mlb? 
Holy crap. Sky is losing on stream… he’s not too happy with Ada 
because her skill description is straight a scam, i was curious too why the previous b3 was not getting the buff since that is what the skill description said
okay but i hope fuck up is aware of this issue
cuz its hilarious that the JP translation is the only oen that is correct
anyway sky already got scammed so cant take back no more
holy fuck man get a better translator
the problem is all 3 say something different
and the only 1 that is correct is JP
like what the hell? lmfao
and its not even the first time this has happened...
do they playtest this game
I feel like the wording is fine?
works the same as crown
not sure why he even expected diff
What's going on rn
I thought it was known that it wouldn't buff both b3s
that's why I was sure sanis still beats her in buffing cindy
if i may ask, does this mean current b3?
when the wording says all burst 3 allies who previously cast their burst skill?
what it should say is
affects all burst stage 3 allies who are currently casting their burst skill
take that up with crown
with crown as a precedent, not sure why ppl are expecting diff
So the "Confusion" is becuase he expected Ein to always get the buff? Even when she didnt burst?
Currently mean in that full burst only cause that buff activate and refresh every full burst
he expected anyone who b3'ed earlier in the fight to get it

Yeah...
That's...
Yup, I thought it would be like crown's
Only who gets to burst gets it during that rotation
Re-enter burst 3 soon tm
Since rapi can get it I guess they would just make another her
He was expecting Redhood to get the buff
But Redhood does not get the buff
But B1 Rapi can get the buff
And this is the reason why
So Ada cannot buff Redhood with caster atk
wording exactly like Crown
behave exactly like Crown
complain
huh

do you playtest Crown?
and WHY exactly would we use Ada to buff RH? I feel it is just nitpicking at that point.
Yes it doesn't work for her, but I just cannot ffind a situation where I would want to burst with RH and have Ada's buff too
I think he was testing Ada off bursting capabilities with B3s
how is her personal dmg
if anything this just made B1 Rapi + Ada and Ein a set team 
It did
Also I think he was also upset that B1 Rapi can get the burst but not B1 Redhood lol
But idk
It is nit-picking
But yeah B1 Rapi, Ada and Ein is nice
W in any case
I am not even thinking about using RH on this upcoming electric raid
Why would I be mad about that 
Considering it's gluttony again I wouldn't bother using rh either
Wait if Rapi works
If in the future another unit like Rapi but can be used as B2
That would mean all three gets the buff lol?
Yeah its fine
Not EN's fault
Well it's EN's fault
But if you are smart enough, you will know
no
cuz the unit would need to be B3
and be used as B1 too
Previously is correct.
that's the only scenario where that works
thats why they said rapi but works as b2
It starts at the start of full burst
So technically the B3 trigger is previous
The JP translation is only "just previously"
ada dong hahaha
Its the same thing
I mean whats the point if RH gets the buff. She has no damage as B1 support.
Nah, Ada's probably still infected with a Plaga
Yeah that's what I was saying
Yeah at that point, if you are complaining about it I can only see it as doomposting. She isn't crazy but she is decent for electric SR
A content creator needs virality
I understand
and if the only "bad thing" we can say about it is that she doesn't buff RH then yeah...

If you as a viewer gets baited and gets mad because of it thats ur fault
Got out DPS'ed by my DPS Siren 
the futa virus
Invest where
Dont think shes be that much over siren though
are we getting more collab tickets than just the 20 in the mail?
they figured out how to make people not skip collab with they cringe ass temporary tickets
she worth
Imma try with T. Laplace
I wasn't paying attention, but apparently xmaiden still better than ada in sky's test

surely 3rd anni saves true dmg
and that's Ok
in neutral tho
I am not using the team I will use with Ada that I will use with X.Maiden
FUUUUUUUUUUU, short of blue mats to get S2 to 10
I can only imagine how I would be hitting my ass if I had invested in BMilk rn 
bMilk ???
didn't I told you she was Vesti tier

this time, Vesti ~ Ada ~ Jill
also for the new scam mold
Is MastM better though.
oh right, let me test
BMilk was more worth it.
Iron raid no one played.
Easy rank.
You are supposed to skip this one.

Raid was so easy investing in BMilk/SW can get u from top 100/200 to 35.
Only need ELE and a few ammo on BMilk.
In comparison,
Ade doesn't need OL.
And Jill and Ada themselves are quite trashy.
You probably just OL them. Get idk some "decent" OL and you're gtg.
At most 10-20 rocks per unit.
But the problem
Is you also have Isabel and Scar.
That's the main problem.
You want to compete here? Feed them all.
This is the same problem as Water weak.
Too many units to invest in.
Bready, XGuillo, Phantom, QQ.
or if you're not using sw
not for my sanity
also it's delusional to spend 20 rocks on a unit and expect something usable
this OL gacha system stink
Best Element to Mald:
- Fire → Everyone builds Fire, but if you've got EVA 1 + good Alice (and 🪑 +
), you're good for an easy rank. Just don't expect to rank too high. - Iron → People don't like playing Iron.
- Wind → Average.
- Water → Most people don't build Water units + many low-rank DPS.
- Electric → Everyone builds Electric + many low-rank DPS.

It's not based on invest.
That's not how it works.
It's based on competition.
Is opening a restaurant easier/cheaper than opening a factory? Yes, but restaurant has more competition.
Hmm M.Mast did worse, let me retry that
No burst gen?
Ok, HelmTr it is then.
This is full auto too
We are back to Volume Trina Scar MastM crit fishing again bois.
let me be quick scoping with Ein

Yeah
Bruh.
but I was manualy doing burst

Stupid enough to let no burst gen team auto, though. :sakupoint:

If I was quickscoping it would have definitely been better than my previous that's the thing
I wanted to compare full auto damages between HelmT and M.Mast 
No one runs full auto if they mald in SR.
So that comparison has little value.
shes mid?
Quickscoping with HelmT, only 160M difference compared to M.Mast
so does ada s1 helps with mirandaTr s2?
Ada double dips with RRH B1 and a real B3? 
yes
So Ada’s best teammates are RapiRH as B1 and somebody B3 
But is it worth doing that? Well, RapiRH isn’t Electric, but neither do we have enough Electric carries to bench one of our strongest neutral B3s?
And it counts as benching. We toss away RapiRH’s high B3 dmg
Yeah, we aren't using RRH as B3 on electric weak unless you dont have something better
and considering it is the great mighty poo 2.0 , no reason to use her as B3
so thats why I got her on first multi, she is that bad
Unless those things that look like hemorrhoids are parts that can be damaged 
does she help with miranda treasure? does she solve the too high atk problem with miranda's 80% crit rate?
Her best feature is she goes with any element, I guess. Can be offburst just buffing the other two B3s on the team.
Yes, she should make anyone who burst get the buff from miranda
nice! this is huge actually isnt it?
let me double check that rn
New commanders would like her a lot. Veteran commanders have mixed results depending on how they are with their roster and builds
2 main beneficiaries at present - Snow White and Ein
Snow White secures getting MirandaT buff with Ada on team, no matter how bricked you made her and others’ OLs
40atk mihara vs 20 atk Ada. ada gets the buff when she burst, Mihara gets it when she bursts
I wonder if potentially having 2 crit buffed bursts on miranda team can warrant ada replacing grave or maybe shelm (cdr)?
u know wat, ada at the very least is expanding team build possibilities, so not a bad unit at all imo...
Idk, use the recent raid to figure it out
main issue with Ada is that she applies DoT with her S2, so need to be careful with that
Take the best Snow White player’s team and see how you can squeeze Ada in there and still get same or better score
If it’s not possible, then it’s a red herring
yeah i can see in heavy sw bosses she prob wont be in... but if there isnt that many parts she might be bis with miranda
Ada's DoT also fully crit when she bursts until she fires her crossbow
I think that was tested earlier and someone said spamming Ada did better than crit cheese
yeah mostly nice to see it criting while you charge the big pp charged shot
yea the s2 grenade things look kinda weak honestly, but the big pp dmg is her burst anyways
has anybody tested the mihara miranda comp with all 3 helm maxwell ada
dont even need to do full 3 minute fight just screenshot the dot number
But from my testing I found it better to spam with Ein than crit cheese
maybe a Ein with x3 crit damage would make a difference
mine isn't that 
Oh, it was Ein
And Not Snake wondering aloud whether it’s better to crit fish or spam attack on Ada
is this like ein just holding charge? so her turrets do crit? mihara strat?
I couldn’t find that someone saying they did better spamming
Yeah not shooting with Ein
hi guys (2)
maybe a 4x crit damage Ein would make a difference when crit cheesing. and ofc, we cannot really compare it to the mighty poop as it wont have a core
quick spamming on core does better than crit cheesing
So need to wait for the raid for that
i do remember mihara crit cheese working well on mighty poo, maybe ein with her true dmg burst would be the same?
nah
that's if you don't need healing
problem with Mihara is her skill dmg = 80 ~ 90% total dmg
Ein is 50% only
so by afking, you gain a bit from skill dmg but lose a lot from basic attack
i see, thx for the ein lesson, honestly no idea how she works before
Ein is just alice but electric

oh right, I need to reset values on Ein's Ele. I have her at 70% ele with x4

I still think ada's worth a roll esp when they keep pushing the whole true damage deal
Ada might be okay as an off burst filler in other elements
If they stop adding mmaids
might wanna wait for jill no? who knows she might be electric raven 

inb4 her previous dot stacks not going away and every new application be a new independent stack
also 
Not in Blablalink too
why don't you guys add her to prydwen

I thought you're part of prydwen wot
I am

but I'm the sloth part

imagine me adding stuff
also I just think
may be we can Crown Rapi Siren Mihara Ada on Nvidia
aka "When MMast actually heals"
mast should buff more tho no?
that's something I want to test too
I thought this thread was dead.
aka the Crown Alice/Rei Rapi Mihara Ada
go add ada to prydwen 
What's the positioning here?
Ein.
Same, MirandT Grave Mihara Ada Dwifr
Hmm...
Ada and Crown take priority. @placid phoenix

Wait, no.
Ada gives herself ATK on Burst.

Still a good hygiene to place Ada to the left of Miranda.
or just waifu collection right?
how many times have they failed true dmg now
lapt, frima, vesti, ada?
is there some bozo I'm forgetting
i mean vesti is pure hardcore in pvp
does she need OL ?
i think at the very least level her gears for the atk buff?
Yes and a few ELE
As usual
Atk doesn't matter
1 ammo for burst gen
Ull need it outside electric weak
Why do you need Ada to be at the left of Miranda?
Imagine thinking gacha players are literate

Nah, just so that it follows the burst rotations
It's over
Skill order
Left to right
I thought her s2 is op huh
Maid mast but b3
Try swapping Ada with helm so helm bursts
Am I high or does the voice in game not sound as bad/monotonous as the one on youtube
I guess if you got her 10/10/10 with 4 ele she'd be like 1.5x of neutral helm on electro weak
guys I am low IQ. Just tell me. Ada is badass or underwhelming? I pulled her with the 20 tickets, but don't know if I should invest. I can't get past stage 2 mirror container yet.
If you cannot get past than you should pull
is FrimaTr is good pair with ada?
Already pulled. Currently have S. ANIS, EIN, and now ADA. S.ANIS is somewhat built. Haven't OLd yet, EIN is still barebones. I am just wondering if ADA is as strong as they were making her out to be as a buffer, or if she is another disappointment after release like Tact. UP. Vesti etc
Haven't OL vs OL is day and night. Both buffs on Ein is pretty good esp for MC
Anti-synergy
Clay just dispelled Ada's burst 
Think my anis/xlmaid are too built to get a fair comparison.. replacing ada for one of them does significantly less dmg
So is she good guys
Her gun has travel time?
Hang on a sec
Isnt that RL's animation
Bro I kept mixing up her being SR/RL
@gilded path If u max charge before she bursts, u instantly max charge burst shot or no?
That's good now u can recycle all supporters and defenders in peace
Btw who gets siren this raid?
Rapi goes nicely with ada
Rogue Cindy
Tove isabel
Siren + scarlet team?
I don't have enough PvP coins to get the gear reforges with how many elemental books you need now 
Not better than maiden or anis for buffing or damage, but she’s best for miranda team better buffer than maxwell
Oh and she doesn’t even do more damage than ein

That much was obvious, kinda
you’d think she kinda would of

Well she has a spot for afk mihara on fire so theres that

No
It's like Emilia
You start at 250% then climb up to 1750%
what ranks are u usually
She's alright
Fire and iron both for most people with SW issue 
true
It seems fine to not spend resources for this collab huh
Also Gluttony is just boring
Need to see jill 
Yes I have those decently built except for Isabel ig because no Arcanna
For some reason SU decides her burst deals normal damage instead of true
Halfbaked af
Even more reason to not make the burst suck more lol
Ib4 nayuta true dmg meta defining character 
no
The moment we have True dmg Rapi tier, no boss can even survive in High Deficit

then you got sustained deficit, distributed deficit
Get her for fire and iron raids (and futureproof the other elements if they get Miranda-compatible units)
electric unit b3 that best use case is buffer for fire and iron raids
you love to see it
Vesti buffer trust
Actually
Hol up
Laplace buffer?????
Laplace doesn't have any self attack buff so she probably benefits a lot from just a big bag of attack

Plus some true damage buff which is cool I guess
And healing which laplace umm favours because she can't hide behind cover during burst
Maybe she is truly Laplace buffer
Does Laplace do true damage when she’s not bursting? Ada’s s1 buffs them when they’re done with their burst.
I think she only deals true dmg during burst
So Ada’s true damage buff is wasted on Laplace.
😣
Hmm
I think I'll save my mats for Jill
Ada takes a backseat, especially since I'm building Little Mermaid
She buffs EunwhaTU I guess…
It's still the highest attack share buff in the game on a character that doesn't have any
Sure, but the True Damage buff is the one that can’t really get used effectively.
“Who previously” so Laplace is on cooldown?

Does it stick around the whole battle?
A proper Laplace test?
I think it means any B3 who have used their burst gets the buff
You’re supposed to download the patch while it is still in maintenance!

Why is it written so ambiguously then?
it's literally the same as crown
So, is she good for Laplace?
Not really. Hers separates those in the active chain versus those on cooldown. To distinguish who gets the ATK vs DEF buff.
laplace is pumping 
it's a laplace with 1 ele damage roll vs rapi with 4
idk if scope lock keeps overloads
Yeah I was wondering about that too. Also, does scope lock keep dolls?
it doesn't, and it should keep dolls now since that was in patch notes iirc
Okay cool cause I remember not being able to test treasure helm cause it wasn’t keeping her treasure before
A 3.5 or 4.5 anni B2 unit that turns all dmg into true damage would be interesting
Future players would be bricked but thats a sacrifice Im willing to make
it looks the same on water weak so scpe lock ignores overlaods
cindy stocks rising

hm mc no longer a wall
Oh yeah, how does Ada compare to MMast in a Cindy + Ein comp against Mirror Container?
Probably weaker, no?
assuming you have crown ada cucks Ein out of infinite ammo
Happy to be wrong, but why is it worded so misleading?
SU has a weird perspective on “previously” when they mean “in the active burst chain that resulted in full burst”
ESL intern
is Ada worth a dupe
i only specified one dupe 
knowing what anniversary will be like
also im probably gonna MLB Jill

well it's not a dupe if you just pull one
im sorry but that battle suit skin is doing things to me
but anyway is Ada good enough to warrant one extra dupe?














