#[Ada Wong] New Unit Megathread

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hollow idol
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theres literally cindy and ein

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then u make a sg team

finite steeple
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We NEED Jill

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Info

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Must be today

hollow idol
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even if we add 1 more dps its still kinda slacking

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tbh

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at best we have 3 teams +1 dps

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the options are extremely limited Sweat

finite steeple
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100%

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8 AM or 10 AM

hollow idol
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inb4 no announce and they just let it happen with maint

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none of it matters until we see the boss anyways tbh

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and we have union raid before next sr right

finite steeple
split dune
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why most collab characters (except SRs and Mari) are B3?
why they don't make a SSR B1 Abnormal?

finite horizon
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it's not exclusive to collabs, b3 are just easier to sell as raid features, because they need not to be meta.
There are still a lot of dps slots to fill accross all elements, so as long as they strong in their niche, ppl will pull for them just to stay competitive in solo or union raids.

floral tendon
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b1 and b2 are much harder to sell. Make them weak => no one pull. Make them strong, they will stay relevant for very long

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you wanna powercreep b3 slot for money not b1 and b2

split dune
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Nier and Eva1 are fire
Re:Zero is Water
Eva2 is Wind
SB is Iron
RE will be both Electric then?

old island
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it is not known

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(probably)

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and hopefully we never have another collab again

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there's one for every element

floral tendon
heady blaze
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whatdya mean, we're in the maximum milking phase
we're getting at least 3 collabs per year DoroSus

finite horizon
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4 collabs next year

old island
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do collabs even sell well?

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rezero giga flopped

floral tendon
old island
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i am so not getting 3% next sr

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i don't have the scarlet and isabel bottoms built and i don't want to build collab units

heady blaze
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so you don't even need to have a lot of effort

old island
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yeah one copy

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i can't wait for all the people pulling core max ada because 60% attack share on an attacker

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and then complaining about being broke for anni

hollow idol
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Pulling pilgrim, couldn't be me

manic salmon
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Is ada stellar blade level Doro

austere garden
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60% caster atk

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p2w

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fking p2w

proper tree
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If wanting max synchro levels (or plan to someday) and want to be safe: MLB

If "who the hell cares" and want to be safe: 0LB

If "Abnormal can diaf": Skip or 0LB

If "I'm broke": Skip or 0LB

If "LOBBY CUTSCENE. I MUST HAVE IT": MLB
Note: Gacha costume doesn't need MLB to get lobby skill cutscene.

If "I don't know how much money I have, my butler takes care of that": MCB

pepemafia

austere garden
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AnisSquish luckily it only buffs 1 unit

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what if

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they release content that fixes your sync at 800

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then getting core gives huge advantage

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go c7 her

proper tree
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They do have Museum flex contests. No synchro cap there

austere garden
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hold on

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how do we do SG team with mpriv

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who takes the bench?

proper tree
# austere garden who takes the bench?

Just shooting range test it. The combo that does most damage wins. It fluctuates wildly based on OLs. If MPriv is astoundingly strong, she should be strongest with Drake and BSoda. The problem is whether SDoro can do enough damage to justify replacing the other B3 SG and which

austere garden
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it is gluttony

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nothing to pierce

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bye doro

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can they go together? @proper tree

proper tree
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iirc MPriv isn't "10 seconds duration" but "during Full Burst", right?

austere garden
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yup

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hence people burst with modernia

proper tree
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yup
■ Activates when hitting 30 time(s) using pellets during Full Burst Time. Affects self.
Reload 1 round(s).
ATK ▲ 11.22%, stacks up to 5 time(s) and lasts for 2 sec.

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So BSoda doesn't drag her down unlike BSoda trying to drag down SDoro

proper tree
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I mean, I thought it was common knowledge by now. I guess not?

austere garden
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i never tried

proper tree
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Ah

austere garden
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not common cuz

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there was no raid for arcana

proper tree
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Oh did you mean to put all 5 in one team? susge

proper tree
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I don't think that works if you meant that

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Arcana is 40s cd

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Yep, bricked team

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The two comps in one that was spoken about before was Isabel + Arcana and Scarlet + Trina. But they also spoke about putting them in two separate teams because we didn't have enough Electric carries anyway to cover all 5 teams

austere garden
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watch leona get used and mari/grave is benched

split dune
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Jill's thread when?

austere garden
split dune
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no

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wait a minute
Ein's partner?

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nevermind, her thread just was created

little vigil
short whale
queen scaffold
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If Rapi use burst 1 will it be counted as burst 3 since Rapi is technically listed as a burst 3 that will affect Ada's skill

cunning shadow
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Based on JP text, shouldn't work

proper tree
cunning shadow
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EN text doesn't indicate it either, because the wording is identical to Crown's

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The Japanese word used for "previously" means "just before," as in "used before the full burst in which this skill was activated"

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So say you have a team of Cindy/Rouge/Ada/B Ade/X Maiden,
Rouge → B Ade → Cindy (Cindy gets Ada S1)
Rouge → B Ade → Ada (Ada gets Ada S1)
At the end of battle, Rouge → B Ade → X Maiden (X Maiden gets Ada S1)

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The part that's causing confusion is that it says "all B3 units," and that's why I said before that I think it's a contingency measure for compatibility with re-cast units delugiggle

proper tree
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I guess to be safe this will simply get tested asap

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If RRH gets the buff while B1, that's cool. If not, np, that's the intuitive normal we're expecting.

cunning shadow
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But the "previously cast their burst skill(s)" part is the same wording in both EN and JP to Crown

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Oh wait, now I see what you replied to, my bad

proper tree
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RH also has the same "issue"

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Imagine, she is in the fight, casts B1, and then others take it rest of the way. Should RH also get Ada Wong's buff?

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Unlike RRH, she's not even pretending to be a B1. She's a B3 that casted a B1 burst

cunning shadow
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Lemme give the proper answer since I answered the wrong question above

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Burst Stage 3 is the unit that used a burst at Burst Stage 3

proper tree
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I take back what I said about RH.

She's actually a special burst type.

cunning shadow
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Burst 3 is a unit that bursts at burst stage 3

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If it said Burst 3 allies, then Rapi would work even if B1

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But Burst Stage 3 means they'd have to burst at that stage

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Orrrrrr maybe not, hold up yabai

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Looking at Arcana's skills, the EN is different, but the JP is the same

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If JP is correct, then yes, Rapi could use it even if B1

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Unless they have weird coding

proper tree
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Well, they did have wording that implied Helm can AoE nuke with burst KEKS See how that translated to gameplay

cunning shadow
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That was EN only delugiggle

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EN has such a bad track record that I hesitate to trust it

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meaning we'll just have to test to see how the coding treats Rapi

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Going by co-op, she's always B3 even if she can do a B1 burst KEKL

paper veldt
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and TW

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i have 0 trust in TH tho

cunning shadow
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Sadly I only know how to read Hangul

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I don't actually know Korean kek

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And I trust machine translation about as much as I trust SU's EN localization team

cunning shadow
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nah, I've seen mistakes that even MTL can do correctly

hollow idol
cunning shadow
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Oh right, I forgot AI exists

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Hilariously worse than Google Translate and DeepL heh

hollow idol
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over promise under deliver

gilded path
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I would take AI

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instead of woke shit propaganda forced down my throat

hollow idol
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i dont think those 2 things are mutually exclusive

ebon eagle
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Who is more worth building if I can only choose one, Ada or Jill? I don’t have enough Abnormal attacker4kSkull

cunning shadow
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Jill's damage can't really be predicted until we know how her S2 works exactly

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That's a question for two weeks from now kek

floral tendon
pastel pawn
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the collabs are underwhelming… right? From the artstyle to the skills

cunning shadow
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Ada's S1 is very good

old island
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she seems like an off burst helm type

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but we already have off burst helm at home

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and mmast

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and to a lesser extent stuff like xlud, naga(+crown), mihara, xmaiden and idk shelm

floral tendon
old island
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Collab so ass it made me try hard on the current raid

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Because the next one is gonna be an ada check

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There are so many good off burst units

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Duos rotting

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Team 1 maid mast off burst, team 2 ada off burst, team 3 thelm off burst, team 4 xlud off burst, for team 5 you have xmaiden/seleggs/mihara/drake for electro/water/fire/sg

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And then you're supposed to fit in absolute somewhere kekmorbL

old island
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I'm gonna wishlist vesti

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For lobby

cunning shadow
old island
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And you doubters are gonna be sorry

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Why would you ever run emma

cunning shadow
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Oh, one simp used Eunhwa

old island
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She needs eunhwa to not be a cripple

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At least eunhwa can do something by herself

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Even if B2 DPS is a meme

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Hey if B3 CDR true damage pilgrim is confirmed, maybe they'll use it to push B2 dps

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Eunhwa and grave are both fire

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And B2 DPS support is the only way to make an interesting fire dps that won't immediately get squished by Rapi and Mihara's massive dicks

vagrant grove
ruby raft
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Fun fact: during the beta test, the sweater has a boob window and open back, but yeah... look what Capcom took from us.

placid phoenix
spice sail
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skip?

ruby raft
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🔥
Beta's Ada, also Capcom remove silver chain as well.

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I think because Capcom want Ada to dress professionally, style with slightly sexy, as sweater hug her curves, but for NIKKE players, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!
As bad as ShiftUp try to censor skins.

gilded path
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what's Ada official costume in RE

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you are in collab, not some fan art bullshit

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Capcom said and SU agreed, no otherwise

ruby raft
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I mean if Capcom kept the beta's design, we would have beta's design

placid phoenix
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in neutral, assuming cindy is still used

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would she just replace xmaiden?

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better atk buff

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dmg probably good enough with the 210% per sec

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can just spam her for gen since her autos are useless

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and just cindy + sanis burst, unless ada burst is somehow better than sanis

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actually ig her dmg is prob a lot lower than xmaiden

stray yacht
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Is she clip? At least for pvp use

grave charm
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Yes clip cuz crossbows don’t have mags clueless but fr tho have to wait till maint finish

placid phoenix
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she's mag

grave charm
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Thank fuck

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last thing I need is to mlb some random collab character before anni

finite steeple
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But xmaid has nuke

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Hard to say

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I think xmid is still better

placid phoenix
old island
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That's assuming she doesn't just replace sanis

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Then you can have both

young quarry
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What's xlud skill buff 20% defenders attack for 10 sec on burst vs 60% attacker attack?

placid phoenix
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Sanis buffs Cindy autos on off burst

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Ada doesn't

ruby raft
placid phoenix
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She loads 1 arrow, then shoots several times with it

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Nikke magic

placid phoenix
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Maybe that arrow itself has tiny arrows inside it

ruby raft
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crossbow is the best weapon Ada have

bright cypress
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So what was the conclusion to Ada's 60% attack buff working for b1 rapi red hood? We shall wait and see?

cunning shadow
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EN implies that it wouldn't work, JP implies it would (assuming Rapi doesn't have special coding), so wait and see

bright cypress
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If that's the case then I bet on not working

wind lantern
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look at arcana's tooltip

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same wording as ada

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it should work

cunning shadow
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Arcana's wording in EN is different

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"Burst 3" vs "Burst Stage 3"

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but it's also EN heh

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I'm going to assume coding-wise it won't work tho akkoShrug

bright cypress
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Yeah en is en like toves treasure
Affects all shotgun wielding allies vs affects all allies with shotgun. Who tf made that

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I'm talking about burst

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I don't trust en with wording

cunning shadow
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Don't forget the classic "Deals continous damage" on X Guillo and "Attacks continuously" on X Maiden

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which is to say "Deals sustained damage" and "Attacks continuously" KEKL

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JP is the same wording for both Arcana and Ada, so only reason it wouldn't work is coding stuff

ruby raft
bright cypress
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I wouldn't be surprised if they coded rapi in a way so it won't work

cunning shadow
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Yup, that's my thought

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If 40s burst, works. If 20s burst, doesn't work kekYep

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watch it work on RH B1 and B2 but not Rapi B1 heh

harsh flare
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Anis buff reload if you don't use crown. NoirStare

old island
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Arcana requires the unit to be electric tho DoroTHINK

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Why would it work on rapi

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Depends on whether she counts as all 3 bursts like red hood or just one

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Rapi b1 Rh b2

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Attack buff stonks

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Wait what if it works on red hood 3 times pog

cunning shadow
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despite being able to be a B1

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Meanwhile RH realistically shouldn't work with Ada at all cuz she's flex burst

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We're wondering if Ada will work with Rapi B1 delul

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Arcana obviously wouldn't work with her

bright cypress
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If ada buffs rapi b1 then how good that is compared to buffs helm or maid mast give? (In a team with crown) I'm asking for campaign and tower pushing purposes

cunning shadow
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For campaign/tower, Rapi should be B3 yabai

bright cypress
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Oh ok

gilded path
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unless I trip, Ada ~ Vesti TU

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fate of all true dmg

bright cypress
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Ow mam

gilded path
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can just treat us her as a RL buffer. Dmg wise around Maiden

hollow idol
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So above sanis DMG?

bright cypress
hollow idol
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Bis prob Cindy ada for cc/behemoth now right?

gilded path
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probably

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Cindy doesn't care much about reload. She wants to prolong her shooting time

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well if nothing else then reload is just fine

hollow idol
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Ya and 60% atker is a decent bit above sanis s1

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Since sanis is % supporter

gilded path
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this batch looks tamer than Eva 2.0

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I guess people complaint too much

hollow idol
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Cuz b3 is well before full burst?

gilded path
hollow idol
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And buff has to exist at the moment of b3 press

gilded path
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dunno, at least I know Maxwell burst scans her own S1

hollow idol
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Maxwell is delayed charge

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Instead of snapshot right

gilded path
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what makes you think it's different here?

hollow idol
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I was thinking Cindy burst with ada

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Cindy won't get burst dmg snapshotted in ada buff

gilded path
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oh true

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I thought Ada's burst

old island
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you don't get to play vesti unless you mlb ada

kind girder
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Building her as we speak, I will be able to give her a try once I am at home

sacred zodiac
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How good is she?

slender scarab
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So how's Ada? I'm hearing she isn't...the best, especially when compared to Jill on paper.

sudden barn
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Could work with Mihara and Snow White + Miranda in their respective SR element weakness

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To guarantee get the crit rate buff

slender scarab
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I guess more focus is on Jill...although we can't get her yet.

dire jolt
slender scarab
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I have no idea man.

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I'm already on the fence because of the whole "true damage" nonsense.

dire jolt
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lol i see, im guessing this collab event isnt made to be taken too seriously

slender scarab
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I've just been burning my resources on NOT getting S. Anis.I had to ticket her to finally get my hands on her.

past stag
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Why Mihara as comp?

sudden barn
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New member for Miranda

kind girder
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Who should I compare her to? I think against S.Anis the difference will be quite noticeable

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Interesting. 1/1/1 and she is almost buffing Ein as much as S.Anis

finite steeple
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Just want the dmg

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Hmm I mean its hard to gauge with uninvested Ada

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But we can project

coral sparrow
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is she like just a pure buffer cuz her damage is kinda...

finite steeple
finite steeple
coral sparrow
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to me she just seems 1 to 1 to sanis

placid phoenix
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sus full auto test, ended at the very end of xmaiden burst sequence, so prob just focus on cindy dmg, second one ended at end of cindy burst, so lost several seconds there, prob gen loss from ade

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ele adv

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burst gen is all over the place, too lazy to manual

coral sparrow
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nvm she seems worse than sanis or xmaiden

placid phoenix
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game performance sucks now

low agate
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This was my 1/1/1 Ada buffing Ein vs 10/10/10 s.anis buffing ein

placid phoenix
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I get freezing once in a while

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in every game mode

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pulling? freeze

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pve? freeze

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pvp? freeze

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every patch is just a gamble on whether they make performance worse or undo the performance nerfs that the last patch did

coarse breach
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Btw Ada 60% atk buff work on rapi b1 but not rh lol

low agate
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Really?

placid phoenix
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genned too slow for xmaiden burst

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7/7/4 no ol ada

coral sparrow
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she is on b1

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she does get it, interesting

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seems rapi even when in B1 is coded as a B3 and her burst state is flipped to true if no b1. That is my assumption

wind lantern
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yes

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RH is coded to have a burst 1/2/3 specifically

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Rapi has her condition built into her S1 that checks actively

coral sparrow
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ok i think... off burst buffer only. Will have to wait for testers, but her dmg is kinda meh, but her buffs are good for any b3 true damage enjoyer i guess

finite steeple
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🙁

coral sparrow
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ill run it rn

finite steeple
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wait

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position matters

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Ada must be tot he left of MirandaTr

coral sparrow
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yup i think so

finite steeple
random prawn
coral sparrow
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what next?

haughty cradle
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Can we talk about how they are slowly standardizing the collab/event specific tickets ?
Where is my dude that was preaching it was a one time thing onthe first and last collab rerun ?

finite steeple
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with lets say

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siren crown ein ada mastm

coral sparrow
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yeah i can do that real quick

kind girder
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just arrived home, will get to testing once I update my game on PC

coral sparrow
finite steeple
desert escarp
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inb4 they nerf b1 rrh interaction

finite steeple
coral sparrow
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yeah, 4 7 7. OL level 0

finite steeple
coral sparrow
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yup

finite steeple
coral sparrow
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i can get it to 10 i think

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1 sec

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BUT i did watch, all of them did crit

finite steeple
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Don't.

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Pls no.

coral sparrow
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ok i wont LOL

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but yeah i did watch, all of them did crit

finite steeple
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I think he has MirandaTr.

coral sparrow
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okok good good

agile hatch
finite steeple
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To recap:

Can anyone with built MirandaTr (min. 1/10/10) and Ada test:

  • BAde Ein Ada MirandaTr DWife
  • Siren Crown Ein Ada MastM

Exact team order, except Team 2.

coral sparrow
agile hatch
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Boss has 100def

wild jay
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so, mida wong?

finite steeple
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I'd assume BAde can go to Cindy and Crown can go here.

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But it feels wrong to me.

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Like this team.

kind girder
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this was AFK Ein for all of her feathers to crit during her burst

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4/10/10 Miranda

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1/1/1 Ada

finite steeple
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Compared to your Helm team, I guess it's around 25% weaker, but Ada is not built, when built maybe 15-20%.

kind girder
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quick spamming did better for Ein

finite steeple
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That's gay.

kind girder
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Yeah AFK Ein isn't really a good strat hahaha

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let me get Ada to 7/7/7 and compare the damages

finite steeple
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I guess Siren Crown Ein Ada MastM might be the play.

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But I think it's also not.

kind girder
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I would give Ein an infinite ammo comp for sure

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she wants to spam her quick attacks

finite steeple
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Cindy Rouge SAnis BAde XMaiden
Siren Crown Ein Ada MastM
Liter Trina Scarlet Raven Mihara/HelmTr
ToveTr Arcana Isabel Doropity Dolla
Volume Grave Jill Rapipi HelmTr/Mihara

Cindy Rouge SAnis BAde XMaiden
Siren Crown Ein Ada MastM
Liter Trina Scarlet Arcana Isabel
ToveTr Leona Doropity PrivM X
Volume Grave Jill Rapipi HelmTr/Raven/Mihara

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It's Gluttony.

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No parts. Don't think Raven will do anything.

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Mihara has damage distance, though.

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What if it's Rapipi Grave Jill HelmTr Mihara...

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Would Mari being Electric be better in the first team, though...

kind girder
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7/7/7 Ada

finite steeple
kind girder
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difference between 1/1/1 and 7/7/7 ada

reef nest
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Are we winning chat? TeriStare

kind girder
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No ele

kind girder
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3 Ols

finite steeple
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Ada is gud.

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With asterisk.

reef nest
finite steeple
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She is a buffer first.

kind girder
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I will do a full auto with the first team I tried with

finite steeple
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Her damage is what it is.

finite steeple
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Btw.

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Good enough.

kind girder
finite steeple
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Good enough to be relevant in SR.

kind girder
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you think someone else will be stealing that buff? wahahaha

finite steeple
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All "good enough" units should be pulled anyway if you care about SR.

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You can not invest in them.

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Just get them.

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Invest can be a later problem.

finite steeple
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With Burst + S1.

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Will steal Ein.

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If she's placed to the left of MirandaTr.

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But the difference is not that big.

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That team still sucks anyways.

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Unless on Ada's rotation, you were still crit fishing with Ein.

kind girder
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ofc I was quick spamming during Ada's burst

finite steeple
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Well, whoever gets MirandaTr's buff won't change that Ein did better spamming.

faint timber
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So how is Ada actually? I see asterisks flying around

placid phoenix
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her s2 is single target in pvp lmao

finite steeple
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Hmm, actually.

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Frankyub.

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The boss has core.

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So, it might be a bit different in Gluttony.

kind girder
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I can also try quick spamming to the top of the boss

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that should still count as a hit but not give core damage

finite steeple
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One Full Burst if you want.

finite steeple
finite steeple
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Or an omega supporter.

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B tier or A.

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Well, Alice is A.

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She should be A.

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Bossing, I would place her in S.

placid phoenix
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she's xmaiden but worse in pvp

faint timber
placid phoenix
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except she buffs better, that's it

finite steeple
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For both stories, A.

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So, A-A-S-A.

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If u think Jill is better, no.

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Jill might have good PvP burst gen though.

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Not crap.

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She might pair with Mihara in Fire weak instead of HelmTr.

placid phoenix
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if scar gen is whatever, I don't expect jill to be any better

finite steeple
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If you don't need healer, Ada is better.

kind girder
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No core Ein, might have slipper a few core shots but 90% of them were non core

finite steeple
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MirandaTr SRos X Mihara DWife was her team, right?

kind girder
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so AFK Ein did better than this by 300M

finite steeple
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Or something similar.

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Ada buffs Mihara better in this comp than HelmTr.

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If you don't need healer.

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Well, Ada heals.

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But only two units.

placid phoenix
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nayuta true dmg trust

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reenter b3, 20sec cd

finite steeple
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I don't think anyone can run Miranda Sros HelmTr Mihara DWife.

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Cus some people have HelmTr too strong.

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She bricks them.

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Mihara not getting crit buff.

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You know what.

placid phoenix
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Doro imagine bricking helmt, ain't me

finite steeple
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Ada fixes that.

kind girder
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I ran that for Ziz

placid phoenix
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was onboard low atk helmt from the very start

kind girder
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Cuz my HelmTr is 26atk only KEKsbadman

finite steeple
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Just make sure Ada is weaker than Mihara.

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Wait, no.

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It doesn't matter.

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Just make sure you place Ada to the **left **of Miranda.

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Wait.

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@kind girder Does Mihara crit fishing team also require crit fishing in Helm's rotation?

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And her own rotation?

kind girder
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No, during Helm's burst you are getting stacks of her DoT

finite steeple
kind girder
#

you need to fire 400 bullets during her off-burst for full stacks

finite steeple
#

Now, does Ada do better crit fishing or spam attack.

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I think Ada crit fishing does better idk.

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4200% + True DMG buff.

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I "think" Ada might be featured as a unit in:

  • Fire-Weak: Grave Ada MiharaBC MirandaTr X
    • Solves HelmTr too strong problem.
    • MiharaBC deals more damage.
    • Ada synergizes with MirandaTr and also deals damage.
  • Electric-Weak: With Ein.
  • Iron-Weak: Cope with LaplaceTr or possible synergy with SW.
  • Water-Weak: 'Til the day we get True DMG Water.
  • Wind-Weak: 'Til the day we get True DMG Wind.
placid phoenix
#

assuming cindy is gonna still be relevant in neutral

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doesn't she just beat xmaiden

finite steeple
placid phoenix
#

unless xmaiden dmg is high enough to offset the buff

finite steeple
#

XMaiden nukes.

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Plus Neutral Cindy is dying now.

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The past few raids, Cindy team got two invaders Raven and Mihara.

finite steeple
#

And SAnis is unoptimal too if all the B3 isn't Electric.

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Introducing Ada. Idk cope, Ig.

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Fire-weak, Ada will go with Mihara.

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Electric weak with Ein.

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Water weak, good question. Idk.
Wind weak, good question. Idk.
We might get like Cindy Rouge NewB3 Mari Ada or something.
Iron weak, we will probably go Cindy Rouge RH Mari/BAde Mihara again.

wild jay
#

cut the yap, mida or godda?

alpine vector
#

Now we need a really good electric dps

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Cindy has her own squad

placid phoenix
#

caster atk

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so yes

coral sparrow
#

ok guys im confused here, shouldnt you always get the buff with how its worded after bursting? Like if you are a B3

wild jay
#

dupes on collab just 1 month before anniv

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bruh

void helm
#

We need her mlb? BlancStare

scenic oxide
#

Holy crap. Sky is losing on stream… he’s not too happy with Ada KekWait

coral sparrow
#

because her skill description is straight a scam, i was curious too why the previous b3 was not getting the buff since that is what the skill description said

warm wyvern
#

okay but i hope fuck up is aware of this issue

kind girder
#

apolo gems?

coral sparrow
#

cuz its hilarious that the JP translation is the only oen that is correct

warm wyvern
#

anyway sky already got scammed so cant take back no more

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holy fuck man get a better translator

coral sparrow
#

the problem is all 3 say something different

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and the only 1 that is correct is JP

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like what the hell? lmfao

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and its not even the first time this has happened...

night hazel
#

do they playtest this game

placid phoenix
#

I feel like the wording is fine?

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works the same as crown

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not sure why he even expected diff

sly swan
#

What's going on rn

placid phoenix
#

I thought it was known that it wouldn't buff both b3s

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that's why I was sure sanis still beats her in buffing cindy

coral sparrow
#

when the wording says all burst 3 allies who previously cast their burst skill?

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what it should say is

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affects all burst stage 3 allies who are currently casting their burst skill

placid phoenix
#

with crown as a precedent, not sure why ppl are expecting diff

kind girder
#

So the "Confusion" is becuase he expected Ein to always get the buff? Even when she didnt burst?

coarse breach
placid phoenix
kind girder
#

Yeah...

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That's...

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Yup, I thought it would be like crown's

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Only who gets to burst gets it during that rotation

sly swan
#

Re-enter burst 3 soon tm

coarse breach
#

Since rapi can get it I guess they would just make another her

low agate
#

But Redhood does not get the buff

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But B1 Rapi can get the buff

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And this is the reason why

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So Ada cannot buff Redhood with caster atk

gilded path
#

wording exactly like Crown

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behave exactly like Crown

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complain

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huh

#

do you playtest Crown?

kind girder
#

Yes it doesn't work for her, but I just cannot ffind a situation where I would want to burst with RH and have Ada's buff too

low agate
#

I think he was testing Ada off bursting capabilities with B3s

floral tendon
#

how is her personal dmg

kind girder
#

if anything this just made B1 Rapi + Ada and Ein a set team wahahaha

low agate
#

It did

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Also I think he was also upset that B1 Rapi can get the burst but not B1 Redhood lol

#

But idk

#

It is nit-picking

low agate
#

But yeah B1 Rapi, Ada and Ein is nice

kind girder
#

W in any case

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I am not even thinking about using RH on this upcoming electric raid

#

Why would I be mad about that ICANT

low agate
#

Considering it's gluttony again I wouldn't bother using rh either

sly swan
#

Wait if Rapi works

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If in the future another unit like Rapi but can be used as B2

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That would mean all three gets the buff lol?

finite steeple
#

Not EN's fault

#

Well it's EN's fault

#

But if you are smart enough, you will know

kind girder
#

cuz the unit would need to be B3

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and be used as B1 too

kind girder
#

that's the only scenario where that works

slim bison
#

thats why they said rapi but works as b2

finite steeple
#

It starts at the start of full burst

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So technically the B3 trigger is previous

#

The JP translation is only "just previously"

old island
#

ada dong hahaha

finite steeple
#

Its the same thing

finite steeple
reef nest
low agate
kind girder
#

Yeah at that point, if you are complaining about it I can only see it as doomposting. She isn't crazy but she is decent for electric SR

finite steeple
#

I understand

kind girder
#

and if the only "bad thing" we can say about it is that she doesn't buff RH then yeah...

finite steeple
#

And do not blame

#

But

reef nest
finite steeple
#

If you as a viewer gets baited and gets mad because of it thats ur fault

reef nest
#

Got out DPS'ed by my DPS Siren DoroThunk

old island
finite steeple
#

Dont think shes be that much over siren though

old island
#

are we getting more collab tickets than just the 20 in the mail?

#

they figured out how to make people not skip collab with they cringe ass temporary tickets

reef nest
#

am out of rocks now

soft valve
#

she worth

kind girder
#

7/7/7 Ada no Ele 20 atk, only 3 OLs SR5

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1/1/1 Ada

#

I will get her to 10/10/7 now

reef nest
#

Imma try with T. Laplace

placid phoenix
#

I wasn't paying attention, but apparently xmaiden still better than ada in sky's test

#

surely 3rd anni saves true dmg

kind girder
#

and that's Ok

placid phoenix
#

in neutral tho

soft valve
#

true dmg

#

so she's not

#

nvm

#

thanks

kind girder
#

I am not using the team I will use with Ada that I will use with X.Maiden

#

FUUUUUUUUUUU, short of blue mats to get S2 to 10

#

I can only imagine how I would be hitting my ass if I had invested in BMilk rn LaplaceWAHAHAHA

soft valve
#

bMilk ???

gilded path
#

didn't I told you she was Vesti tier

#

this time, Vesti ~ Ada ~ Jill

#

also for the new scam mold

finite steeple
kind girder
#

oh right, let me test

finite steeple
#

Iron raid no one played.

#

Easy rank.

#

You are supposed to skip this one.

#

Raid was so easy investing in BMilk/SW can get u from top 100/200 to 35.

#

Only need ELE and a few ammo on BMilk.

#

In comparison,

#

Ade doesn't need OL.

#

And Jill and Ada themselves are quite trashy.

#

You probably just OL them. Get idk some "decent" OL and you're gtg.

#

At most 10-20 rocks per unit.

#

But the problem

#

Is you also have Isabel and Scar.

#

That's the main problem.

#

You want to compete here? Feed them all.

#

This is the same problem as Water weak.

#

Too many units to invest in.

#

Bready, XGuillo, Phantom, QQ.

floral tendon
#

or if you're not using sw

finite steeple
#

Electric is as horrible.

#

SW was a better invest than BMilk.

floral tendon
#

not for my sanity

#

also it's delusional to spend 20 rocks on a unit and expect something usable

#

this OL gacha system stink

gilded path
#

I'm frost main

#

in Tower of Fantasy

finite steeple
#

Best Element to Mald:

  • Fire → Everyone builds Fire, but if you've got EVA 1 + good Alice (and 🪑 + PC), you're good for an easy rank. Just don't expect to rank too high.
  • Iron → People don't like playing Iron.
  • Wind → Average.
  • Water → Most people don't build Water units + many low-rank DPS.
  • Electric → Everyone builds Electric + many low-rank DPS.
reef nest
finite steeple
#

It's not based on invest.

#

That's not how it works.

#

It's based on competition.

#

Is opening a restaurant easier/cheaper than opening a factory? Yes, but restaurant has more competition.

kind girder
#

Hmm M.Mast did worse, let me retry that

finite steeple
kind girder
#

I think it is mostly burst gen

#

yeah

finite steeple
kind girder
#

This is full auto too

finite steeple
#

We are back to Volume Trina Scar MastM crit fishing again bois.

kind girder
#

let me be quick scoping with Ein

finite steeple
finite steeple
#

?

kind girder
#

Yeah

finite steeple
#

Bruh.

kind girder
#

but I was manualy doing burst

finite steeple
kind girder
#

MCM->CCM

#

I am not that stupid wdym

finite steeple
kind girder
#

If I was quickscoping it would have definitely been better than my previous that's the thing

finite steeple
#

Hmm, Trina buffs Burst Skill dmg. Raven deals burst skill damage. Hmm.

kind girder
#

I wanted to compare full auto damages between HelmT and M.Mast weirdChamp

finite steeple
#

So that comparison has little value.

kind girder
#

Quickscoping with M.mast

#

now let me quickscope with HelmT

heady blaze
#

also

#

an entire month of this shit collab DoroSus

spice sail
#

shes mid?

kind girder
#

Quickscoping with HelmT, only 160M difference compared to M.Mast

storm vine
#

so does ada s1 helps with mirandaTr s2?

proper tree
kind girder
#

yes

proper tree
#

So Ada’s best teammates are RapiRH as B1 and somebody B3 susge

But is it worth doing that? Well, RapiRH isn’t Electric, but neither do we have enough Electric carries to bench one of our strongest neutral B3s?

And it counts as benching. We toss away RapiRH’s high B3 dmg

kind girder
#

Yeah, we aren't using RRH as B3 on electric weak unless you dont have something better

#

and considering it is the great mighty poo 2.0 , no reason to use her as B3

slim bison
#

so thats why I got her on first multi, she is that bad

kind girder
#

Unless those things that look like hemorrhoids are parts that can be damaged wahahaha

storm vine
#

does she help with miranda treasure? does she solve the too high atk problem with miranda's 80% crit rate?

proper tree
#

Her best feature is she goes with any element, I guess. Can be offburst just buffing the other two B3s on the team.

kind girder
#

Yes, she should make anyone who burst get the buff from miranda

storm vine
kind girder
#

let me double check that rn

proper tree
#

New commanders would like her a lot. Veteran commanders have mixed results depending on how they are with their roster and builds

#

2 main beneficiaries at present - Snow White and Ein

#

Snow White secures getting MirandaT buff with Ada on team, no matter how bricked you made her and others’ OLs

kind girder
#

40atk mihara vs 20 atk Ada. ada gets the buff when she burst, Mihara gets it when she bursts

storm vine
#

I wonder if potentially having 2 crit buffed bursts on miranda team can warrant ada replacing grave or maybe shelm (cdr)?

#

u know wat, ada at the very least is expanding team build possibilities, so not a bad unit at all imo...

proper tree
#

Idk, use the recent raid to figure it out

kind girder
#

main issue with Ada is that she applies DoT with her S2, so need to be careful with that

proper tree
#

Take the best Snow White player’s team and see how you can squeeze Ada in there and still get same or better score

#

If it’s not possible, then it’s a red herring

storm vine
#

yeah i can see in heavy sw bosses she prob wont be in... but if there isnt that many parts she might be bis with miranda

kind girder
#

Ada's DoT also fully crit when she bursts until she fires her crossbow

proper tree
#

I think that was tested earlier and someone said spamming Ada did better than crit cheese

kind girder
#

yeah mostly nice to see it criting while you charge the big pp charged shot

storm vine
exotic arch
#

has anybody tested the mihara miranda comp with all 3 helm maxwell ada

#

dont even need to do full 3 minute fight just screenshot the dot number

kind girder
#

But from my testing I found it better to spam with Ein than crit cheese

#

maybe a Ein with x3 crit damage would make a difference

#

mine isn't that LaplaceWAHAHAHA

proper tree
#

Oh, it was Ein

#

And Not Snake wondering aloud whether it’s better to crit fish or spam attack on Ada

storm vine
proper tree
#

I couldn’t find that someone saying they did better spamming

kind girder
#

Yeah not shooting with Ein

pastel pawn
#

hi guys (2)

kind girder
#

maybe a 4x crit damage Ein would make a difference when crit cheesing. and ofc, we cannot really compare it to the mighty poop as it wont have a core

#

quick spamming on core does better than crit cheesing

#

So need to wait for the raid for that

storm vine
#

i do remember mihara crit cheese working well on mighty poo, maybe ein with her true dmg burst would be the same?

gilded path
#

nah

kind girder
#

that's if you don't need healing

gilded path
#

problem with Mihara is her skill dmg = 80 ~ 90% total dmg

#

Ein is 50% only

#

so by afking, you gain a bit from skill dmg but lose a lot from basic attack

storm vine
#

i see, thx for the ein lesson, honestly no idea how she works before

kind girder
#

Ein is just alice but electric

#

oh right, I need to reset values on Ein's Ele. I have her at 70% ele with x4

heady blaze
#

I still think ada's worth a roll esp when they keep pushing the whole true damage deal

old island
#

Ada might be okay as an off burst filler in other elements

#

If they stop adding mmaids

storm vine
gilded path
#

I know

#

she won't

storm vine
#

inb4 her previous dot stacks not going away and every new application be a new independent stack

gilded path
#

also sadvl
Not in Blablalink too

placid phoenix
gilded path
#

there's no me in you guys

placid phoenix
#

I thought you're part of prydwen wot

gilded path
#

I am

placid phoenix
gilded path
#

but I'm the sloth part

#

imagine me adding stuff

#

also I just think

#

may be we can Crown Rapi Siren Mihara Ada on Nvidia

#

aka "When MMast actually heals"

placid phoenix
#

mast should buff more tho no?

gilded path
#

yes but Ada allows you to run Rapi B3

#

else most Nvidia clear feature 1 healer

placid phoenix
#

rapi b3 with half uptime on ada buff, or b1 with full?

gilded path
#

that's something I want to test too

finite steeple
#

I thought this thread was dead.

gilded path
#

aka the Crown Alice/Rei Rapi Mihara Ada

finite steeple
#

Its just my PC is on it the whole time.

#

So it was "silent".

placid phoenix
#

go add ada to prydwen childespank_seseren

finite steeple
kind girder
finite steeple
#

Ada and Crown take priority. @placid phoenix

placid phoenix
finite steeple
#

Wait, no.

#

Ada gives herself ATK on Burst.

#

Still a good hygiene to place Ada to the left of Miranda.

pastel pawn
placid phoenix
#

how many times have they failed true dmg now

#

lapt, frima, vesti, ada?

#

is there some bozo I'm forgetting

pastel pawn
#

i mean vesti is pure hardcore in pvp

floral tendon
#

does she need OL ?

storm vine
#

i think at the very least level her gears for the atk buff?

finite steeple
#

As usual

#

Atk doesn't matter

#

1 ammo for burst gen

#

Ull need it outside electric weak

stark sandal
spark marlin
#

This is a bug right???

#

Why is rapi b1 getting ada buff

gilded path
#

have you tried

#

idk

#

clicking orange text

spark marlin
#

Imagine thinking gacha players are literate

gilded path
#

imagine thinking gacha players watch ingame buff

spark marlin
kind girder
old island
#

It's over

finite steeple
#

Left to right

gilded path
#

is Claire Attacker?

granite canyon
#

Ada 1 ele, 1 atk, SR5 doll, 7/7/10

ebon eagle
#

I thought her s2 is op huhdeadge

old island
#

Maid mast but b3

old island
granite canyon
#

I can try that

#

Burst with ein/helm. Ada 10/7/10

old island
#

Nice electric dps

young quarry
#

Am I high or does the voice in game not sound as bad/monotonous as the one on youtube

old island
#

I guess if you got her 10/10/10 with 4 ele she'd be like 1.5x of neutral helm on electro weak

crude eagle
#

guys I am low IQ. Just tell me. Ada is badass or underwhelming? I pulled her with the 20 tickets, but don't know if I should invest. I can't get past stage 2 mirror container yet.

agile hatch
lapis vault
#

is FrimaTr is good pair with ada?

crude eagle
# agile hatch If you cannot get past than you should pull

Already pulled. Currently have S. ANIS, EIN, and now ADA. S.ANIS is somewhat built. Haven't OLd yet, EIN is still barebones. I am just wondering if ADA is as strong as they were making her out to be as a buffer, or if she is another disappointment after release like Tact. UP. Vesti etc

agile hatch
reef nest
young quarry
#

Think my anis/xlmaid are too built to get a fair comparison.. replacing ada for one of them does significantly less dmg

compact vapor
#

So is she good guys

finite steeple
#

Hang on a sec

#

Isnt that RL's animation

#

Bro I kept mixing up her being SR/RL

#

@gilded path If u max charge before she bursts, u instantly max charge burst shot or no?

#

That's good now u can recycle all supporters and defenders in peace

young quarry
#

Btw who gets siren this raid?

Rapi goes nicely with ada
Rogue Cindy
Tove isabel
Siren + scarlet team?

old island
waxen kelp
#

Oh and she doesn’t even do more damage than ein

compact vapor
waxen kelp
#

you’d think she kinda would of

#

Well she has a spot for afk mihara on fire so theres that

paper veldt
#

It's like Emilia

#

You start at 250% then climb up to 1750%

faint timber
#

@compact vapor so Ada Is very mid?

waxen kelp
#

Elec dps buffer bis for a fire dps

compact vapor
#

She's alright

compact vapor
waxen kelp
#

kekw true

ebon eagle
#

It seems fine to not spend resources for this collab huhRougeStare

waxen kelp
#

ye

#

Elec is already decent on units

ebon eagle
#

Also Gluttony is just boring

waxen kelp
#

Need to see jill BlancStare

ebon eagle
agile hatch
waxen kelp
#

True damage just sucks

agile hatch
#

Halfbaked af

agile hatch
ebon eagle
#

Ib4 nayuta true dmg meta defining character kekw

gilded path
#

The moment we have True dmg Rapi tier, no boss can even survive in High Deficit

floral tendon
#

true dmg

#

what deficit

grave charm
#

True deficit

#

For true damage

gilded path
floral tendon
#

then you got sustained deficit, distributed deficit

round portal
#

So how is Ada?

#

I just got her

waxen kelp
#

She’s ok useable at least

#

Doesn’t replace any of the other elec units tho

cunning shadow
#

Get her for fire and iron raids (and futureproof the other elements if they get Miranda-compatible units)

floral tendon
#

electric unit b3 that best use case is buffer for fire and iron raids

#

you love to see it

old island
#

Vesti buffer trust

#

Actually

#

Hol up

#

Laplace buffer?????

#

Laplace doesn't have any self attack buff so she probably benefits a lot from just a big bag of attack

#

Plus some true damage buff which is cool I guess

sly scroll
#

Her dmg seems to be lacking

#

So she is more like Support but b3 attacker ? omgBruh

old island
#

Yes

#

She's like helm

#

If helm didn't have healing or good burst gen

bright cypress
#

Maybe she is truly Laplace buffer

hushed quest
bright cypress
hushed quest
#

So Ada’s true damage buff is wasted on Laplace.

bright cypress
#

😣

midnight frigate
#

Hmm
I think I'll save my mats for Jill

#

Ada takes a backseat, especially since I'm building Little Mermaid

hushed quest
#

She buffs EunwhaTU I guess…

old island
hushed quest
#

Sure, but the True Damage buff is the one that can’t really get used effectively.

old island
#

how is that after burst DoroTHINK

hushed quest
#

“Who previously” so Laplace is on cooldown?

old island
hushed quest
#

Does it stick around the whole battle?

old island
#

when my third world internet finishes downloading you're all gonna be sorry

hushed quest
#

A proper Laplace test?

midnight frigate
#

I think it means any B3 who have used their burst gets the buff

hushed quest
reef nest
hushed quest
old island
#

it's literally the same as crown

midnight frigate
#

So, is she good for Laplace?

hushed quest
midnight frigate
#

What the fuck lmao

#

Red Rapi B1 turned into an extra DPS

old island
#

it's a laplace with 1 ele damage roll vs rapi with 4

#

idk if scope lock keeps overloads

random prawn
#

Yeah I was wondering about that too. Also, does scope lock keep dolls?

serene scroll
#

it doesn't, and it should keep dolls now since that was in patch notes iirc

random prawn
#

Okay cool cause I remember not being able to test treasure helm cause it wasn’t keeping her treasure before

rancid delta
#

A 3.5 or 4.5 anni B2 unit that turns all dmg into true damage would be interesting

#

Future players would be bricked but thats a sacrifice Im willing to make

old island
# old island

it looks the same on water weak so scpe lock ignores overlaods

serene scroll
#

hm mc no longer a wall

rancid delta
#

Oh yeah, how does Ada compare to MMast in a Cindy + Ein comp against Mirror Container?

#

Probably weaker, no?

old island
#

assuming you have crown ada cucks Ein out of infinite ammo

hushed quest
# old island

Happy to be wrong, but why is it worded so misleading?

#

SU has a weird perspective on “previously” when they mean “in the active burst chain that resulted in full burst”

old island
#

ESL intern

kindred path
#

is Ada worth a dupe

old island
#

dupes? in this economy???

#

right before anni???????

kindred path
#

i only specified one dupe LiterSmug

#

knowing what anniversary will be like

#

also im probably gonna MLB Jill

old island
#

well it's not a dupe if you just pull one

kindred path
#

im sorry but that battle suit skin is doing things to me

#

but anyway is Ada good enough to warrant one extra dupe?

old island
#

but why?

#

her damage is ass but her buff might go hard

#

1 dupe gives you slightly more on that buff but it's not like a huge diff

kindred path
#

yeah thats what i was suspecting

#

i usually try to go at least one dupe for every collab unit