[Milk: Blooming Bunny] New Unit Megathread

[valid ravine]

QTE might be elite mob replacement

[crisp umbra]

maybe QTE stops laser shower

[valid ravine]

Or yeah, second howling at x3 mobs might just be QTE then x2 mobs

[drowsy hornet]

with the fact that the newest SR's do a lot of dmg... this is making teambuilding a challenge

does bmilk have to be paired with bade

[valid ravine]

She'd like to be but doesn't have to be

[drowsy hornet]

ok

[crisp umbra]

havent we been running no healer for alot of SR recently

[valid ravine]

Top players, yes

Top 3% need healers often still

[crisp umbra]

i think last healer run was black snake?

for top 100s

[valid ravine]

Depends on the comp

[shy hazel]

pierce cover attacks

[valid ravine]

Providence needed healing

Raven comp took a lot of damage

[crisp umbra]

im pretty sure prov was doable no healer?

[safe sail]

im actually looking forward to this sr, at least more engaging than previous ones

[crisp umbra]

thats cuz raven got nerfed and cant cover well

[safe sail]

But i doubt they'll ever top providence in fun

[crisp umbra]

SW team did no healer right?

so other teams were possible no healer

healer was just chill

[noble crown]

no healer for highest dps yeah

[valid ravine]

SG and Raven comps had heals

[crisp umbra]

SG had leftovers right?

no sdoro yet

[valid ravine]

But Helm and Naga also contribute damage, so

[crisp umbra]

no b2

[valid ravine]

[crisp umbra]

we already used mari crown grave

so they only had healers to pick from

[valid ravine]

Leona for range buff

[crisp umbra]

worse than naga surely

[valid ravine]

Rupee for DPS

[noble crown]

helmT was able to fit into SW or Raven's comp for providence highest potential comp dps preferred SW malding with SW + Maxwell and Raven gets HelmT for easier runs

[valid ravine]

But dolls for the most part have made healing mostly optional

Even Black Snake didn't use healing entirely

[crisp umbra]

was there a no healer bs comp?

[valid ravine]

Ah wait no, Rouge technically heals

[crisp umbra]

rouge was cindy right

[valid ravine]

ye

[crisp umbra]

cindy has dumbass decoy

and rouge heals

[valid ravine]

It's just that Rouge heals aren't sufficient for lower level players

[austere raven]

dmg per shot fits now, but what causes the different

[drowsy hornet]

is srosanna a must for this raid

[valid ravine]

Needs high investment

[shy hazel]

spoiler for hard mode ending

[austere raven]

may be attack speed

[drowsy hornet]

how much invest is she again?

[shy hazel]

Lorax showed it

[crisp umbra]

compared to what?

[valid ravine]

S Rosanna will probably be a must for top scores, but not top 3%

[crisp umbra]

its probably partially the extra 1 shot u need

partially that trony gameplay has always been kinda overvalued

getting exactly 6s of spam is kinda annoying

[valid ravine]

If you aren't using SW, just throw Rapi/Eve into seamaids and Raven into Crown

[crisp umbra]

in practice

[drowsy hornet]

i got srosanna and ssakura cause they're hot, I'm gonna skip like all of the other seasonals tho

[crisp umbra]

and i dont think anyone has 24 ammo bmilk yet?

[verbal hamlet]

KEL

[crisp umbra]

so ur reload time is alot higher

[drowsy hornet]

so.. I "cooked" for nothing lmao

[crisp umbra]

unless reload comp

[drowsy hornet]

wait a second-

[verbal hamlet]

Thread is derailed from Milk now

[drowsy hornet]

cause she's too mid :C

[crisp umbra]

im prob rolling 4 ele

hoping for ammo

call it a day

go RE collab

[valid ravine]

Iron's issue is that its niche is too limiting

[noble crown]

can you donate me 500 rocks kos

thanks

[drowsy hornet]

is this really the best call tho?

[crisp umbra]

can u donate me ur raven rolls

🙁

[valid ravine]

If you just make everything pierce pierce pierce, it just becomes a straight numbers comparison

[valid ravine]

Obviously not. Following Top 200 is the best call

But it also won't be comfy

[drowsy hornet]

well-

I...

skill issue :C

[valid ravine]

Gotta make a compromise

Check out PESU MY if you want solid damage + comfy

He always makes a comp list

[drowsy hornet]

wait why do u guys pry apart the maids anyway

[valid ravine]

Cuz Anchor is pointless if you don't need heals

[crisp umbra]

following top 200 and having decent investment in them is optimal

[valid ravine]

[drowsy hornet]

but I does

[crisp umbra]

because crown is NTR god

first stole naga

then stole mmast

[valid ravine]

M Mast gives crazy damage but needs a pair

[drowsy hornet]

damn

[crisp umbra]

the real reason is u funnel rapi tbh

[valid ravine]

Crown still gives crazy buffs even when she doesn't burst

[crisp umbra]

just give rapi everything

compress ur teams

[drowsy hornet]

rrh fcking op

[crisp umbra]

since we have so many b2

[drowsy hornet]

buffing others doesn't do nearlye nough

[valid ravine]

So the Crown Crown Mast tactic works beautifully

[noble crown]

too many B2s to fulfill 5 comps so you maxmize some comps by butchering duos

[valid ravine]

doesn't even matter that Mast stuns herself (unless RNG hates you and Ziz stuns everyone but Mast)

[crisp umbra]

crown mmast shows up primarily when ur force feeding rapi bursts (likely will show up more now that bade is competitive)

[noble crown]

Crown + MMast + Siren as the prime example of a very strong core

[drowsy hornet]

crown teams can usually go without a healer if I jjust time my bursts right

da shield is very naisu

[crisp umbra]

crown can go without healer period

tbh

[valid ravine]

Yeah, Crown's built-in team survivability makes up for losing Anchor

[crisp umbra]

crown is heal

taunt+invuln+self heal+shields

[verbal hamlet]

🙂

[valid ravine]

Yeah

[drowsy hornet]

crown is still first burst I presume

[valid ravine]

It's so gross

but 40 rocks

[noble crown]

I already used that all for nothing

[drowsy hornet]

gasp

[valid ravine]

You can get one piece of equipment halfway completed

[drowsy hornet]

i get to roll so much CS on my MG dps or so much hit rate on my SR units

amazing!

[shy hazel]

i feel you there

[verbal hamlet]

Summary of Bilk

[crisp umbra]

i have 57 rocks and a dream for bmilk to get 4 ele

[crisp umbra]

shame and penetration

is this bdsm nikke

[verbal hamlet]

tok tok

[crisp umbra]

is that a seggs term im too innocent for

[drowsy hornet]

I don't think I'll be able to make use of it personally until we get better healers that can work solo... lemme try smth

is she really high invest actually, bmilk

[valid ravine]

99% of DPS units are

Aside from a few exceptions that have breakpoints like SBS (S2 to 7) or skills that only conditionally attribute to DPS (Alice S2), higher skill level = higher DPS, which is good since the purpose of a DPS unit is DPS

[verbal hamlet]

Milk

[crisp umbra]

.

i cursed it

but julia prob wont get mmast

and bade bmilk rh prob beats julia

[drowsy hornet]

I have made something disgusting

but it might work

[noble crown]

High investment, high burden of knowledge and manual play required

[crisp umbra]

r u pulling code?

[noble crown]

She's MLB already with 15 rocks in at 0 ele and 0 ammo

[crisp umbra]

i pulled for tetra tower i ran today and i had to manual play

so i pulled her right after

[noble crown]

That's why please feed me rocks thanks

[crisp umbra]

let me open mine lets see what i get

milk stealing from milk

[drowsy hornet]

having to both deal with possibly needing healing but also having at least 1 iron on each time sucks

why is bmilk such a pain in the *ss

[tough bough]

He fell for it

[drowsy hornet]

would this work tho?

[tough bough]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-for-it-fell-for-it-again-fell-for-it-again-award-robin-robin-hsr-gif-793709534991153699

[drowsy hornet]

I kinda need some kind of iron character on my cindy team

[crisp umbra]

1 atk 3 ammo in 7 rocks

time to stop

[noble crown]

Any line 3s

[verbal hamlet]

This is much copium, you woukldn't be able to destroy the mobs to take down the shield

[crisp umbra]

no

only line 2

but i dont think i would go for 3 lines anyways

[noble crown]

gg

[drowsy hornet]

... oh wait it's fcking MW?

...

you know what

maybe.. maybe I should go back to 5%

[shy hazel]

yes its Mother Whale

[drowsy hornet]

AW HELL NAW

fck this raid

best I'm putting in is 4 full teams

if I have low hit count I am cooked anyway

[shy hazel]

just destroy the core

[crisp umbra]

the real question i have is

will sg team live

[unique olive]

believe

[drowsy hornet]

... possible?

[crisp umbra]

SG vs core

[unique olive]

Mat-H with fat shield is coming back

[valid ravine]

Believe in S Doro and the power of pierce

[crisp umbra]

SG vs core or SG vs adds

[dusk shadow]

.... guys why does my bmilk do 1/10th of rh

[shy hazel]

bsoda for adds

[drowsy hornet]

hey wait a second...

[valid ravine]

And yeah, if burst timing works out, just pop the shield mobs before they get buff

[shy hazel]

true

[crisp umbra]

can only pop 1 wave

theres 3

[drowsy hornet]

but this team is doomed right?

i feel like on my SG especially, I have to hope and pray I can nuke the core

[valid ravine]

Can still break core as long as shield is gone

[drowsy hornet]

especially since naga is there

but I cannot kill the enemies before they get shield

[crisp umbra]

what if we arcana isabel instead

and just deal with adds

[valid ravine]

Time to bring out...

[drowsy hornet]

andif it's MW, that means the boss does basically no dmg

[valid ravine]

[drowsy hornet]

so I need not healer

[valid ravine]

Uh

[drowsy hornet]

still using naga for core dmg tho

wait

[valid ravine]

New Mother Whale deals DoTs and fires beams

[drowsy hornet]

....

great

so fun

[gentle forge]

she good?

[drowsy hornet]

all motivitation I had went down the drian

hey is 10% really that bad?

[unique olive]

he doesn't know

[drowsy hornet]

do I gotta do this SR

[verbal hamlet]

I wonder will the Devs be merciful and have the core be reasonably breakable or will it be just like SR1, almost unbreakable during the whole 3 min ( maybe we were just weak ? )

[unique olive]

The lore of Mother Whale

[valid ravine]

We were just weak

[shy hazel]

not necessarily

[valid ravine]

Solo Museum proves that

[shy hazel]

can always skip

[drowsy hornet]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[valid ravine]

Can beat Kira's score with one team

[drowsy hornet]

welp

[verbal hamlet]

Museum doesnt have Lvl 400 cap

[valid ravine]

Yes it does

[drowsy hornet]

i am not building any specific buffers for this raid

[valid ravine]

The first time you clear it

[drowsy hornet]

no leona, no srosanna, no shelm, none of em

[shy hazel]

before no limit mode

[valid ravine]

Until you beat #1 score, you're capped at 400

Once you beat it, it goes uncapped

[verbal hamlet]

been ages since i play no cap

[gentle forge]

ass of a game mode

[drowsy hornet]

pls don't tell me I need to rebuild my doro

i dropped her so long ago

[valid ravine]

Normal Doro?

She's dead

[drowsy hornet]

ok

[valid ravine]

Don't worry

[drowsy hornet]

good

[verbal hamlet]

what's the point of increased Dist damage, when there's no real good elec dist damage

[drowsy hornet]

same with noir?

[verbal hamlet]

or proper Dist damage even

[drowsy hornet]

i also dropped her entirely

[valid ravine]

Noir is very much alive still

[drowsy hornet]

oh

welp

[valid ravine]

Won't be for this raid tho

[drowsy hornet]

wait i thought u only had until the first wave of enemies spawn to break the core

[dusk shadow]

the b in bmilk stands for bitch

[valid ravine]

Nope

[dusk shadow]

80 pulls didn't get her

onto the wishlist she goes

[drowsy hornet]

rip

[dusk shadow]

I ain't building her anyway

[valid ravine]

It's just that if second wave of mobs spawns before core breaks, they'll get buffed

[shy hazel]

watch your tone.

[drowsy hornet]

u should go build trony

[dusk shadow]

my core 4 trony?

[drowsy hornet]

I see.

[valid ravine]

The window between the shield going down and the mobs spawning is perfectly open for breaking core

[drowsy hornet]

yes, using her alongside bmilk will drive you to insanity with the sh*tass gameplay

[verbal hamlet]

Dont have enough gold burst books

[valid ravine]

There's actually a window after each wave spawning where you don't even need dist dmg

[drowsy hornet]

like the first guys who fall down

[dusk shadow]

I wanna see someone play trony + bmilk, manualing both to the best of their abilities

[drowsy hornet]

I see

[valid ravine]

Smol White off-burst hilariously will probably rock this raid

Not for top 200, of course

[drowsy hornet]

gaming chair or plastic stool?

[drowsy hornet]

I have smol white :D

i think...

maybe

i should go build my eve probably

[valid ravine]

She was free

[drowsy hornet]

she's missing 2 manu pieces lmao

I recently got some I hope

[verbal thorn]

😭

[drowsy hornet]

oh. yeah

I think my cindy team is in the dust this raid

they do not do core dmg

UNLESS

I just throw modernia onto the team

[valid ravine]

The age of neutral comps is quickly ending

[drowsy hornet]

boom, fixed

[drowsy hornet]

u know what's also slowly ending?

my sanity

[shy hazel]

Absolute with lappy

[valid ravine]

Wind is the only element lacking enough proper DPS units I think, so only there can neutral probably survive at this point

[drowsy hornet]

I'd rather fight 5 MC for every 1 MW

I hate her.

[verbal hamlet]

The stool is the stronger one, right?

[drowsy hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-chair-vergil-chair-gif-2545619634905206492

[summer yoke]

Not a fair comparison, that’s the chair Vergil sat in

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-chair-dmc-yamato-gif-21401933

[drowsy hornet]

well ok then

but uhhh

I think I'm putting minimal effort if at all into this raid

[valid ravine]

TL;DR Build Julia for ez afk and skip tryhard B Milk, right?

[summer yoke]

Wait for the Solo Raid to hit and discover what works and what doesn’t work

[south river]

uuuh if you're looking at mack's pic
have you seen the CP difference

[drowsy hornet]

yeah

[valid ravine]

Aw, don't spoil the real answer

[drowsy hornet]

I'mma just build nobody, well besides bade and uhh eve

I'll still need those 2 regardless

right?

[valid ravine]

It's a joke

[tough bough]

Implying people have enough rocks to actually get the ele rolls needed for element comps

[summer yoke]

If there was a duo of Nikkes named Common and Sense, most players would skip

[tough bough]

Someone get sky to complain about rocks again so we get buff

[summer yoke]

j/k j/k

[valid ravine]

Specialize in one-two

[drowsy hornet]

wait eve's only purpose is buffing rrh in iron right?

[summer yoke]

Speaking of rocks, I kind of pray to skip building BMilk

[tough bough]

They call me one-eleven

[drowsy hornet]

but can't xlud also do the same, my eve is barely functional

[tough bough]

One ele roll, eleven defense rolls

[summer yoke]

I want to hoard the rocks for something else, not use them on BMilk

[valid ravine]

Like basically all non-Pilgrim DPS units should just be 7/7/7 for most players

[strange flume]

Has the reason for the discrepancy between meth and testing figured out?

[valid ravine]

10/10/10 is for specialization and sweaty whales

[tough bough]

Skill books aren't even the issue

[valid ravine]

And for lines, just ele

[tough bough]

Even going for 4 ele 0 anything else takes a billion rocks

[drowsy hornet]

question, how does one get 10 copies of an SSR in a single 10x pull

[tough bough]

[valid ravine]

Sacrifice your firstborn to RNGsus

[drowsy hornet]

I would like to know, maybe s6 bmilk is alright?

[summer yoke]

It probably was, Gatrix and somebody tried to work it out earlier but I didn’t see their conclusion

[drowsy hornet]

gotcha

[tough bough]

0.04^10

[drowsy hornet]

will do

[valid ravine]

Or just have alt accounts

They naturally steal your luck

[drowsy hornet]

my current acc is technically an alt acc I just made my default acc

it was a reroll

so yeah

[valid ravine]

I don't think there was one

[cold ivy]

What

On my mama I never said RRH was worse than milk

[summer yoke]

@strange flume Compared to the math that said 33m+ dmg, and reality being 11m+ dmg, that someone else got the numbers to match with his own testing, so w/e it was he got rid of it.

Idk what Gatrix got wrong or missed

[drowsy hornet]

they were going off of what you guys said like 3 days ago

unaware of the current testing going on rn

[cold ivy]

And we said nothing wrong

[valid ravine]

People reading a single line of a conversation and making a conclusion based on it. Nothing new

[cold ivy]

What is being taken out of context

[tough bough]

Nobody said she beats rrh, just that she matches rrh if you use macro

[grand raft]

nah they right, shes 85% of rrh

b1 rrh

[cold ivy]

That she's must pull no cap?

[grand raft]

[tough bough]

[drowsy hornet]

yeah but bmilk is not the best iron dps is what i"m saying

especially with da annoying gameplay

[cold ivy]

Yeah she's top 1/2/3 depending on the boss

[sonic slate]

skill 1 is alot

[drowsy hornet]

hmmmmmm

with gamer chair or without

[noble crown]

with

[drowsy hornet]

aw :C

what's her ranking without

[cold ivy]

The gameplay is not my problem if anyone can't reach it frankly, you can achieve milk's gameplay much more easily and consistently than you can compared to Alice's constant spam

[drowsy hornet]

oh that's true

[cold ivy]

It just requires practice

[drowsy hornet]

well

I need to know how to accurate count in my head the seconds

[cold ivy]

If you never even practice it or put in the effort, milk is not the unit for auto players

[drowsy hornet]

while remembering how the boss works

[shy hazel]

1 potato 2 potato 3 potato

[drowsy hornet]

I want all 3 potato pls

[unique olive]

you dont need M-rin if not fighting for high rank

[cold ivy]

It's like people trashtalk Alice but everyone knows she's top 3 fire dps

[noble crown]

you're right bmilk is a unit for gaming chairs

[cold ivy]

This is also true

[unique olive]

[drowsy hornet]

m-rin?

[dusk shadow]

I don't see how milk is easier to play than alice

alice is constant tempo

[cold ivy]

I'm just talking about Milk's peak potential

It is very high

[noble crown]

which is funny because these idiots wanna deny the use of gaming chairs so much but this unit screams maximize her with gaming chair

[valid ravine]

Only if core/pierce is applicable

[unique olive]

just remember to do over 0.5sec and let her auto

[valid ravine]

If not, she's garbage

[cold ivy]

Frankly speaking, only snowwhite can beat Milk in potential damage dealt

[summer yoke]

They’re saying someone days earlier got the hype from here or elsewhere, while the math was flawed or while the buzz was she might be better than Alice by a great deal.

Then they ran to the presses, as it were, without checking back. Now we’re basically saying BMilk is just a bit better than Alice, comparable to Red Hood or thereabouts, but they never checked back to find this info. Or they’re ignoring it.

So they remain at the presses, printing and broadcasting that BMilk is super awesome

[grand raft]

not potential-woman

😭

[dusk shadow]

wasn't there alice vs bmilk tests that shino did tho

bmilk only better by a wee bit compared to alice iirc

[tough bough]

My Alice jobs to asuka because I have boomer hands

[cold ivy]

No she's not just a "bit better" then alice

[tough bough]

[cold ivy]

She's a lot better

[unique olive]

Alice has stronger lines

[cold ivy]

Around +50% better or even +70%

[drowsy hornet]

do I need to pull out a metronome to keep track of time passing while focusing on the boss

[dusk shadow]

that's gotta be cap

[valid ravine]

Alice only good if pierce/core works. Milk is going to be okay even without that

[noble crown]

unfortunately not

[ripe cliff]

Yes

[drowsy hornet]

i think that's why it's called "meth" and not very much so "math" at times

[cold ivy]

Brother Alice can't compete

Unless it's fire

[drowsy hornet]

what the hell

[cold ivy]

[unique olive]

I just do what they request even I knew it's pointless

[cold ivy]

Did you invest in milk?

[unique olive]

[cold ivy]

What lines

[drowsy hornet]

test it in neutral

[tough bough]

Alice is a bitch to build

[valid ravine]

110k less CP and still comparable damage

[unique olive]

It's neutral

[valid ravine]

[tough bough]

Bmilk is just ele ammo

Maybe attack if you're lucky

[drowsy hornet]

my alice is so terribly built that I can't even use her as a dps

[summer yoke]

It was a given that if there’s elemental advantage, the unit strong vs the element would win. That wasn’t the point. It was about grasping where the unit ranks in damage potential

[drowsy hornet]

she has ammo, cs, and a single atk line

anything else will take a couple hundo rocks to fix

[cold ivy]

Is that ammo enough? Or do you just plan to use her in maids?

[verbal hamlet]

Legendary Def up

[unique olive]

I just spent like 35 rocks something

[sonic slate]

wtf milk dmg

[drowsy hornet]

that def is carrying her dps tho

[drowsy hornet]

it is the most crucial piece

[unique olive]

Ultra AI

Ultra Museum

[drowsy hornet]

... is that rrh b1?

[shy hazel]

yes

[cold ivy]

No bruh

Oh

Yeah

[shy hazel]

dummy

[cold ivy]

He edited

[valid ravine]

GuYs, ShE's 2.6x RaPi DaMaGe!

[unique olive]

why people are so haunted about RRH B1 or B3 nowsaday

[valid ravine]

[drowsy hornet]

I forgot an "r"

[drowsy hornet]

I have not used b1 rrh in so long

[cold ivy]

They don't know her eventual fate

[drowsy hornet]

my rrh is just so strong regardless of element that I am sorta shooting myself in the foot by not using her as b3

[unique olive]

RH has better lines btw

[drowsy hornet]

gasp

[dusk shadow]

how would alice compare to rh in ultra museum assuming somehow both neutral

[drowsy hornet]

remember when RH was the best dps of all time?

[tough bough]

Strong chair

[cold ivy]

This is the new iron UR team btw, surely

[drowsy hornet]

it was like dat when I started playing, now look how far she's fallen

[valid ravine]

Well, yeah, even having gotten buffed to be top DPS, she still wasn't good

[unique olive]

tell someone to remove all ele on final DMG

[tough bough]

Now do it without mashing

[dusk shadow]

bold to assume they giving out core/parts UR

[cold ivy]

to iron?

[valid ravine]

And m-kun Alice was still stronger

[noble crown]

not against rebuild obelisk

[dusk shadow]

just multiply alice dmg by like 2

[cold ivy]

True

Forgot they be trolling

[valid ravine]

Then two months later, SBS came out and sat on RH

[drowsy hornet]

this SR is the one of the few in a LONG while to have core iirc, but it's also the most b*tchy boss of them all

[unique olive]

Milk doubters will suffer when Mat-H return

[drowsy hornet]

so I'm still upset >:C

[unique olive]

Have fun with the fat shield

[tough bough]

I will use Laplace again

[dusk shadow]

I put rh as b1 buffer in obelisk, that's how hard my raven beat her

[noble crown]

it's okay I had an easy time with my raven

[tough bough]

[cold ivy]

I haven't built raven yet

[shy hazel]

providence and kraken had it

[valid ravine]

Last two raids before Ziz had core

[drowsy hornet]

da fck

[cold ivy]

She's still like 1 ele

[drowsy hornet]

oh wait wut

[cold ivy]

Which ones were they

[drowsy hornet]

guess I must've forgor

[unique olive]

Storm(Pain) Bringer with permanent core

[cold ivy]

Provi and?

[valid ravine]

Kraken and Provi

[unique olive]

[noble crown]

man how is this flashbang for leveling up dolls STILL NOT FIXED

[cold ivy]

Kraken had core?

Oh stage 2

[valid ravine]

Always has

[shy hazel]

yes

[drowsy hornet]

tentacles as well

[valid ravine]

Even stage 1 is piercable

[unique olive]

Kraken had permanent core

[drowsy hornet]

provi is one of my favorite bosses

[unique olive]

it's just most Water units can't pierce

[drowsy hornet]

dude is pretty unique

[unique olive]

[cold ivy]

Fr so trash

[valid ravine]

We had 3 no-core in a row cuz Massive Object, Black Snake, Gluttony

[cold ivy]

milk could've been meta there

[drowsy hornet]

nikke provi is much less of a pain in the *ss than SB provi I'll tell u that much

[valid ravine]

then 2 core

then Ziz

[unique olive]

Gluttony was a shame

Made to shill Mihara

[buoyant summit]

Agreed lol

[drowsy hornet]

I barely remember the boss

besides the fact it was a fatass

[unique olive]

Not even follow the stucture of Fire/Iron

No core no part

[unique olive]

[hearty tinsel]

Ikr, that's bothering me the most, as if I'll get a seizure from that

[drowsy hornet]

why couldn't SU have released Velvet as well

[valid ravine]

Velvet and Jaune are for next year's bunny event

[drowsy hornet]

DA FCK

breh

is it collab > anni for the schedule?

after this event

[noble crown]

most likely yes

[valid ravine]

Should be one filler banner inbetween

[noble crown]

maybe 1 filler between

[drowsy hornet]

hmm...

I wonder if nayuta and whoever else are gonna be so ridiculously OP

HMM

[valid ravine]

We have to get our obligatory Quiry every year

[noble crown]

Idol Anis

10000000000000000%

[shy hazel]

actually its gonna be the 3 beasts for anniversary

[unique olive]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[shy hazel]

[unique olive]

Electric belike

[drowsy hornet]

i don't think she's the most useless nikke right?

[cold ivy]

Collab > filler > Anni > filler > Xmas > pilgrim

[crisp umbra]

her name is sora

[drowsy hornet]

... yo do u guys know any banks that have low security in the local area?

[valid ravine]

She's not, but a kit that weak before an anni banner is basically the devs saying "Yeah, we know you want to skip, so here you go"

[drowsy hornet]

I gotta go on an adventure rq

[valid ravine]

Don't forget double anni banner and probably Overspec/Pilgrim duo banner for New Year's

Gotta step up their game for 2026

[drowsy hornet]

tbh I am prob skipping the seasonal banners

[cold ivy]

Most useless nikke has been signal since day 1

[drowsy hornet]

unless there's a really good nikke showing up

[drowsy hornet]

wut bout Crow

I hate her

[valid ravine]

Crow was useful

[cold ivy]

Crow is good

[drowsy hornet]

she's c4, cause ya know... explosive

[valid ravine]

Actually meta very early

[drowsy hornet]

well she's also very much a b*tch so I don't like her >:C

[cold ivy]

20% down

[unique olive]

Almost a year and still no last Rapi copy after lots of C5/C7

[drowsy hornet]

really?

[valid ravine]

I'm probably the only person who's ever had a meta use for Signal, and it was one particuarly niche situation

[drowsy hornet]

question

does xrupee have any use

at all

[cold ivy]

Eunhwa was better for that raid

[drowsy hornet]

besides CA or whatever bullcrap

[noble crown]

I haven't seen a single rapi spook meanwhile siren and mihara have been my latest pilgrim/OS spooks like crazy

[valid ravine]

She kept my S Anis comp alive vs Windbringer via stealing aggro from Privaty and lifestealing through the damage

[drowsy hornet]

I got xrupee without entirely meaning to

[valid ravine]

Not if your S Anis comp couldn't survive

[summer yoke]

I know one where all of the security guards were fired, because it was robbed of all money. Want?

[crisp umbra]

i havent had a crown dupe yet

i ticketed my crown

🙂

[cold ivy]

She had a cheese on a stage where u could spam blanc indom on her

[unique olive]

Wind just hate me

[drowsy hornet]

sure, it'll help me get some good practice on the basic layout

[drowsy hornet]

huh, interesting

[valid ravine]

Also, 10/10/10 Signal > 4/4/4 Eunhwa

[drowsy hornet]

btw does anybody here have synchro 966? or whatever the highest is now

[cold ivy]

[valid ravine]

don't ask

[dusk bay]

so what lines aside from ele/atk

[verbal thorn]

So

What's the skill investment?

[dusk bay]

ammo? cs?

[drowsy hornet]

ammo

[dusk bay]

crit damage?

[noble crown]

976 if you brick lib dupes otherwise 960

[drowsy hornet]

ammo + ele

oh

how do u brick lib dupes

also by lib u mean like... uhh

[crisp umbra]

screw atk

ele ammo

[drowsy hornet]

nihilister?

[crisp umbra]

go RE collab

[noble crown]

yes and sin/quency/guilty

[drowsy hornet]

how do u get moar of em

[dusk bay]

are you being gatrix right now?

[noble crown]

brick by spending union chips on them instead of batteries

[crisp umbra]

u have 200% bonus atk on ur burst

[summer yoke]

Liberation sells dupes for Union Chips. Costs a lot to MLB all Liberation units using Union Chips.

Doing so will tank your cube levels.

[crisp umbra]

and 100% outside of burst

[drowsy hornet]

oh

[unique olive]

btw @cold ivy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1zZv1jtDk

[crisp umbra]

before any buffers

[unique olive]

If you're curious

[crisp umbra]

ele will have like 10x more influence then atk

[cold ivy]

Thank you I was

[dusk bay]

yes 4 ele is always a given

[unique olive]

I can't do test in Ultra AI anymore since I'm too strong on it now

[drowsy hornet]

how much atk% does she have during her burst again?

[dusk bay]

and what about the other 8 slots

[valid ravine]

Yeah, ATK is extremely diluted on B Milk

[cold ivy]

@tender pond more milk gameplay

[noble crown]

ammo + crit rate/damage

[unique olive]

Have to brick someone's burst to get the last core respawn

[crisp umbra]

get some ammo and go resident evil collab

[noble crown]

if you wanna min-max

[unique olive]

Basically if you reach last bar before breaking the core, core won't respawn after you break it

[crisp umbra]

ammo should be next highest infleunce unless auto play (still 1-2 ammo prob next highest)

[unique olive]

[drowsy hornet]

y da fck u autoing her

[crisp umbra]

because i can

[drowsy hornet]

fair

[crisp umbra]

proc embarasment

let her cook

easier on fingers

[drowsy hornet]

oh I thought u were just never gonna proc embarassment

[unique olive]

BunnyMilk is real Milk treasure

[drowsy hornet]

I was like da fck are u doing

[valid ravine]

30% damage loss for 90% sanity retainment

[unique olive]

30% dmg loss for 30% life span

[drowsy hornet]

sanity doesn't get me higher number in video game

[dusk shadow]

anyone sure it's 30% dmg loss?

any tests yet

[valid ravine]

That depends

Without enough sanity, you won't play well

[crisp umbra]

actually sanity can get you higher numbers in videogame

[drowsy hornet]

I see

[crisp umbra]

theres only x ammount of hours you can mald for

so having a more consistent run means u can mald everything else better

[drowsy hornet]

now what can get me higher luck in video game

[valid ravine]

Yup, eventually the urge to ragequit gets too strong

[drowsy hornet]

besides whaling enough to milleage every nikke to c7

[unique olive]

if you want a true amount of ammo, you can cal how many bullet consumed in 5.5 secs

0.5 for full chaging to get pierce again

[drowsy hornet]

how was ur experience using bmilk? if no chair

[unique olive]

just wait before going hard on rolling BMilk

[drowsy hornet]

I don't have her yet

[unique olive]

Sorry I'm disabled, I need chair

Especially with wheel

[valid ravine]

I'm just doing my usual routine of one copy 7/7/7 basic OLs

[dusk shadow]

oh sky doing auto tests rn

can use his manual runs to compare

[valid ravine]

Haven't lost top 3% a single on any of my accounts following that policy

[crisp umbra]

if u invest everything into top 2 teams i think ur almost at 3% already tbh

maybe 3 teams

[drowsy hornet]

ah fair, my fingers are so incredibly slow I can only average a top cps of like 3 cps on alice if I really really focus

[valid ravine]

Depends on the element

[crisp umbra]

3 teams is like safe 3%

[valid ravine]

For iron, top 2 teams usually includes SW

[drowsy hornet]

pls don't make bmilk the 2nd nikke that requires chair to use assuming you're slow or have some injury

[crisp umbra]

i mean like fire is rapi and mihara teams + eva1 is very safe
iron is rapi and sw teams + raven/rh is fairly safe

water is water team+sdoro ur probably safe

[summer yoke]

Pretty good

[crisp umbra]

maybe QEQ team

ect

[dusk shadow]

sky team dmg went from 10b to 9bil with auto milk

in range

(he did refresh embarrassment, but that's it)

[drowsy hornet]

10% hmmm

[valid ravine]

But yeah:

• Full Invest in Pilgrims/Overspec
• Necessary Invest in meta support units
• Partial Invest in 2% DPS units

[drowsy hornet]

not that bad

[dusk shadow]

milk barely lost dmg

[valid ravine]

Basically easy recipe for top 3%

aside from maybe SEA where top 3% is weird

[dusk shadow]

manual his milk was better than rh by the same amount that she's worse by

[crisp umbra]

how much ammo does he have on milk

[dusk shadow]

115% ish I think

no atk

but that's not relevant here, in manual his milk beat rh already at lower inv

[valid ravine]

Is that good damage on auto or skill issue on manual?

[dusk shadow]

I think 30% is around right ballpark

idk how fast he spammed on manual

[crisp umbra]

its relevant because milk scales off ammo with spam more than auto

since ur burning ur ammo faster

but its good that theres gain even at 110%

[dusk shadow]

he did say he wanted to reroll value on ammo a bit higher so he can 2 charge only in burst

[valid ravine]

30%-ish is probably peak auto vs peak manual, with less ammo rolls lessening the gap

[crisp umbra]

ya

[dusk shadow]

the more skill issue, the lower the dmg loss

[crisp umbra]

ammo is relevant in spam vs non spam

[valid ravine]

Meaning that semi-auto isn't a terrible strategy for her

[dusk shadow]

so I think auto milk is pretty viable

[verbal hamlet]

are there nikkes that makes you stand to play?

[dusk shadow]

unlike auto alice

[verbal hamlet]

I'm always sitting when i play

[drowsy hornet]

uhm...

[dusk shadow]

just hold charge milk after her burst, auto the rest

[drowsy hornet]

uhh...

[crisp umbra]

all of them

[drowsy hornet]

hm

[crisp umbra]

i have a standing desk

[drowsy hornet]

idk if any of them need u to stand

[crisp umbra]

that i can adjust

[drowsy hornet]

u can sit for all of them technically

[valid ravine]

What if I want to lie down while playing?

Rapi best DPS

[crisp umbra]

then ur a phone gamer

[drowsy hornet]

get a gaming bed

[crisp umbra]

and rapi dies from fps tax

[dusk shadow]

ok got her 90th

good

[valid ravine]

Nah, just the breakfast-in-bed style desk and put wireless keyboard and mouse on it

[drowsy hornet]

skill invest?

[valid ravine]

[dusk shadow]

is there even fps tax these days

[verbal hamlet]

even with minimal shot fired?

[crisp umbra]

yes

[drowsy hornet]

wait wut's the tax on

[dusk shadow]

can you even drop below 50 fps

[valid ravine]

Yes

[valid ravine]

[drowsy hornet]

MFRA?

[crisp umbra]

have u ever tried to watch retro play

i think he has like 15fps on his phone

[drowsy hornet]

oh MFRA is the new change right?

[valid ravine]

The setting to not reduce fire rate when dropping frames

It helps, but it doesn't solve the problem

[crisp umbra]

as u can see mg still takes a hit

everything else is pretty good

even at 30

[dusk shadow]

even with mg setting?

[drowsy hornet]

it helps me a lot tho

[crisp umbra]

yes

mg setting doesnt help ur fps

it just redoes the calculation

[drowsy hornet]

i drop to like 45 fps if there's a sh*t ton on my screen

[valid ravine]

I have a unionmate who plays on less than 20fps

[crisp umbra]

infact it lowers ur fps

[gentle forge]

and redhood is mid these days

[crisp umbra]

theroetically

[drowsy hornet]

DAMN

slideshow

[crisp umbra]

or atleast can lower ur fps

[drowsy hornet]

when fcking pc optimization oh my god

[valid ravine]

Very old PC with barely any HDD space

[crisp umbra]

but you will gain because say u lower ur fps from 30 to 25

[drowsy hornet]

WHY IS DPS TIED TO FPS

[crisp umbra]

but ur mg goes from 30 to 50 for turning it on

[gentle forge]

no 5070 ti

[valid ravine]

Small indie company, plz understand

[crisp umbra]

ask shift up

[drowsy hornet]

ah, I see I see

[dusk shadow]

I still don't have 5070ti bc lenovo refuses to make one that has ips screen for some godforsaken reason

[noble crown]

ask their QC o wait they don't have any

[valid ravine]

Why does my game crash now after most recent patch occasionally?

[noble crown]

ask their QC

[gentle forge]

build desktop laptops are crap

[crisp umbra]

ill ask QC right here, code why does dps go down with fps

[dusk shadow]

oh I'm talking laptop, ofc no screen issue if pc

[noble crown]

skill issues

[dusk shadow]

I ain't dealing with no glossy ass oled screen on a laptop

[drowsy hornet]

just build u own laptop

[gentle forge]

[drowsy hornet]

and fck up horribly while doing so

and waste a ton of money, easy

[valid ravine]

You don't want your taskbar to show up on your screen even when it's off?

[drowsy hornet]

XD

I don't ever get the appeal of OLED

[gentle forge]

cuz it looks good

[drowsy hornet]

my eyes are too sh*t to tell the difference

[valid ravine]

OLED is nice for televisions

[dusk shadow]

ppl swear burnin in doesn't exist anymore, I'll see in 2 years

[crisp umbra]

u know what grinds my gears speaking of task bars?

[valid ravine]

Terrible for PCs

[drowsy hornet]

I'd rather go for IPS that lasts longer than smth I can't even notice

[dusk shadow]

also, lenovo doesn't have matte oled

[drowsy hornet]

why the fck is it even on monitors so much then

[dusk shadow]

glossy oled unusable for me

[drowsy hornet]

so they die faster and u gotta replace em more

[crisp umbra]

windows 11 doesnt let you open ur callendar on ur extended desktops

whoever did that

[valid ravine]

Tech-illiterate people just want the most flashy display

[crisp umbra]

actually needs to be fired

[valid ravine]

ez

[dusk shadow]

but honestly 3060 laptop still good for nikke

[drowsy hornet]

same with stupid RGB lights I presume?

[crisp umbra]

only the main display can open the callendar/clock button

[dusk shadow]

just need higher specs for the open world gachas coming next year

[crisp umbra]

[noble crown]

it's gotten better with managing it but they don't understand that's just OLEDs inherent flaw

[drowsy hornet]

nobody cares how your sh*t looks if your pc stuff is on the damn floor under the desk anyway

[noble crown]

you can't get rid of burn in due to how OLEDs work

[gentle forge]

i have the $1600 secret lab desk

[valid ravine]

If your desktop is on the floor, you have a problem

[drowsy hornet]

no no

[crisp umbra]

i have a big desk i put my desktop on it

[drowsy hornet]

small table

need more room for big table

[crisp umbra]

its a L shaped desk

[gentle forge]

as long as its not carpet

[drowsy hornet]

have no room

[valid ravine]

That's a personal problem then

[crisp umbra]

i literally have more than enough room

[valid ravine]

A lot of people do stuff like this

[drowsy hornet]

gaming while laying flat on the ground, saving money on not needing a chair

[crisp umbra]

because L shape desk

[valid ravine]

so the lights are used

[drowsy hornet]

yeah but they also have fcking money

[unique olive]

not only this game

[drowsy hornet]

I need to successfully rob a bank for that

[gentle forge]

L shape looks better

[valid ravine]

[unique olive]

There was a game with bug that the lower FPS the higher DMG you get

[valid ravine]

I have money and don't rob banks

[crisp umbra]

i cant go back to non L shape anymore

im ngl

[unique olive]

on specific units

[valid ravine]

Same

[crisp umbra]

i have L shape + shelfs on the side above

[gentle forge]

same L shape too good

[unique olive]

So people installed MSI Afterburner, set a hotkey to set FPS down to 5

[crisp umbra]

and monitor arms for my main displays

[dusk bay]

marvel rivals also have wonky fps tied to game mechanics thing

[unique olive]

toggle when it's about to burst

[valid ravine]

I use a double L shape, one in front, one behind

[unique olive]

DMG diff was really high

about 50%

[shy heath]

Me with potato PC

[valid ravine]

Unit Summary: L-shape desk > B Milk

Swipe for L-shaped desk first

[dusk bay]

f2p union member with potato pc

[unique olive]

After all

BMilk is a piercer

so

[crisp umbra]

lshape desk will get more use than any nikke

[unique olive]

she has weakness and strength

[dusk shadow]

should lose to raven/eve on no part no core yeah?

like rh

[unique olive]

Weakness come the most

But strength will sky rocket

Im done with the testing, just wait to fix and play the raid

[crisp umbra]

im surprised they chose MW rerun instead of ultra

[dusk shadow]

imma just consider her rh 2.0, but with bad burst gen, no b1 utility, dmg either similar or higher depending on chair price

[crisp umbra]

bmilk stomp ultra

[unique olive]

[dusk shadow]

I'll put her in my build queue, prob won't use for this raid

[unique olive]

I will do 2 bursts to compare

[gentle forge]

ima upgrade from a 5070 ti to a 5080 super

[unique olive]

the rest depend on mathers

[gentle forge]

[dusk shadow]

auto milk doesn't need ammo much yeah?

then super cheap to build

4 ele

that's it

[crisp umbra]

auto milk is less relaiant on ammo

[dusk shadow]

anything else is smol bonus

[crisp umbra]

having 1-2 is still good

[valid ravine]

To sum up (seriously):

• Peak damage surpasses Red Hood.
• Manual play is still heavily advised, but auto is less penalizing than with Alice.
• Focus Ammo if manual, Element if auto. ATK is okay, but definitely not a priority, and critical rolls are competitive.

[dusk shadow]

10+ ammo prob yeah

[valid ravine]

That sound right?

[shy hazel]

so is she a must pull

[shy heath]

[dusk shadow]

at least she's a lot cheaper than alice

[shy hazel]

generally speaking

[crisp umbra]

must pull for top 1 SR player

[noble crown]

cheaper doesn't solve my 0 ele 0 ammo OL issue

[dusk shadow]

watch me get ez 0.5% without eve or bmilk or sw

[valid ravine]

Pull her for raids, ye

[shy hazel]

all i needed to read

[shy heath]

I don't really play many game. No reason to buy new PC for this PNG shooting game

[valid ravine]

It loads insanely slowly even if you're on a $5k rig anyway

The only gacha game I know where I can comfortably grab a snack while starting the game

[unique olive]

2 first bursts

[crisp umbra]

always remember when UR was more reliant on having an SSD than a better acc towards the high end

[unique olive]

I didn't even spam Milk on Helm burst btw

[unique olive]

^

well it's might be

not accurate

[valid ravine]

What did you fight?

[unique olive]

cause MMast is there

[dusk shadow]

[unique olive]

neutral SR

[dusk shadow]

raven does have stacking tho

[unique olive]

But can;t require more since they have 2 different comp combinations

[dusk shadow]

replace mmast with raven just to fill slot

[unique olive]

Raven has, she burst 2nd

[dusk shadow]

or a non bursting filler

[valid ravine]

Yeah, I don't like the idea of comparing Raven with basically any iron DPS unit cuz her comp requirements are entirely different

They'll never compete

[unique olive]

you happy with this ?

[dusk shadow]

[valid ravine]

Can't knock Raven out of Iron comps until we get more DoT or non-core-based iron DPS units

We'll just cycle out piercers

[valid ravine]

Although this time, looks more likely to be Cindy getting the boot

[dusk shadow]

similar lines?

[crisp umbra]

I mean the problem is raven takes like 10s to stack right

So if you're fighting for 20s

[crisp umbra]

Half the time she's not stacked

Vs 3 min it's like 5% of the time she's not stacked right

[unique olive]

yeah 4 bursts

i will go to 6 to see

[crisp umbra]

Raven starting to climb on her so prob by the end she wins

[unique olive]

6 bursts, but boss jumping around make Raven has more advantage

[crisp umbra]

But raven is also not the competition

[unique olive]

not speaking to my BMilk is weaker

[crisp umbra]

Like shinono said

[unique olive]

i think they want the answer for UR

[dusk shadow]

you also got gud chair

[crisp umbra]

Ah

[unique olive]

that still

depend on boss

[dusk shadow]

my milk peak gonna be quite low in comparison

[valid ravine]

UR still requires support unit management

[dusk shadow]

I'll prob auto, bc it prob is only a tiny bit worse than my manual attempts

[crisp umbra]

Ur will depend on boss alot

Like iron matH diff

[unique olive]

bro your future wife will have a hard time with you

too hard to satisfy

[crisp umbra]

[dusk shadow]

[valid ravine]

Who is better support for Raven, S Rosanna or B Ade? Cuz that would matter for UR

[crisp umbra]

Srosanna isn't used anywhere else

[valid ravine]

That's my point

[crisp umbra]

[valid ravine]

Well, not actually

She could be used for Bready or Mihara

[crisp umbra]

In iron weak

?

[valid ravine]

UR

[crisp umbra]

Oh