#[Dorothy: Serendipity] New Unit Megathread
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bay and Julia are phase 3 indeed
cuz we need to suffer

such a sadist company and their masochist players
bay deserves to be good but i've never heard anyone even mention julia
any julia fans? no right
what they did to milk was a disaster just give the waifus good treasures
Instead of comparing to rapi@half halo , how much of a dps increase is she compared to current sg team
Isn't that obvious? 
That's fine 
But I'm just looking at how much my score will improve for having a unit
we will get that sand pilgrim to take another element away too
Instead of how good she is since she doesn't use the same resources
It's like SW team ur using free resource
B3 neutral is dead for DPS-exclusive units aside from Cindy who needs an entire comp to support her
Cindy team is also really slot effiecient
U get alot out of buffers people usually don't use
Expecting B3 neutral nowadays is just cope
Xmaiden sanis rouge
Like sg using none of our big b1/2/3
Vs rapi hoards every meta pick
rightfully
She was used as b3 last 2 times 
Yes, because strong element
My memory doesn't go past 2 Sr at this point 

2/5 still
Post siren is also diff tho, our b1 is getting good


wait
Surely doro revive
intern kun


migration goes hard
i guess the age of universal dps is dead af then
but mihara still did it anyway
Did she?
Remember when people called her midhara 
Only 64% usage top 50 isn't a strong case for neutral imo
Yes, because iron has too few good units
Imagine Laplace treasure weren't a meme
Julia treasure will replace Mihara next iron-weak in 2031 
that's the case for all sr no? a universal team only exists because there's a lack of on element options
Cindy and B Soda disagree
I'm talking about her track record
track record doesn't matter the way things are going
Yeah, exactly. That's why neutral is basically dead
iron has 2 modern* pilgrim tier
fire 2
wind 2
nothing stops them from getting more, let alone the lower tier dpses who are strong w ed, esp as they power up w powercreep
Cindy and SG comps are the only cases where we'll see DPS units with 90+% average SR participation anymore
Give it some time Cindy might poof 
Slot pressure is real
at the end of 2025 either cindy or sg will be killed off by other on element
Well, DPS units
Sg team is elemented
SG comp can't be killed
U just get elemented sg
and i'm still waiting for that sg camel pilgrim to boost it further
Y is Sugar, S Doro, M Priv, and Noir atm
shotgun is well cooked
Yeah, and S Doro have 15s burst effects means SU intends to keep B Soda meta
B3 SGs will probably be built with her in mind from now on
I'm willing to bet Tove's treasure will change her to 15s effects

It basically changes from 8 shots to 6 shots to 4 shots
Tove is probably best for her though
Tove is best slot pressure
yeah my bad
with 40% hit rate why not give her another 4x15% hitrate lines
should be nice
I havent
Leona only increases pellet by 5
Also Doro's damage% is the same even when enhanced, she just gets more buffs and max hit rate
She gives herself +5
Then +5 from leona
So 8> 6 > 4
8 > 80/15 = 6 > 80/20 = 4
Actually 5.33
5.33 → 4 =
~25%
Wait no
Doro math soo complicated
It's simple division
that's like grade 2 math
grade 2 students don't get abused by doro
each single pierce pellet still count as pellet hit so occasionally +3
I think need to look at uptime during burst total shots in buff and out of buff
absolute yapper
may as well ask chatGPT how good sDoro is 
Unit that needs to fire quickly to keep uptime on self-buffs doesn't need atk speed
Super sexy tier
with leona 10s buff 4 shots to get 3 single pellet pierce shots so 3/7 of the 10s buff time leona pellet buff is ignored
- Base: 3 enhanced every 8 = 3 + 8 = 11
- Self: 3 enhanced every 6.67 (8-5.33/2) = 3 + 6.67 = 9.67
- Leona: 3 enhanced every 4.67 = 3 + 4.67 = 7.67
With CDR
doro burst buff is 15s while leona is 10s too so the last 5s is 20->15 pellets 
oh if your drake and bsoda higher atk than doro they stole the pellets buff
cuz leona only give +5 pellets during full burst to 2 highest atk SG
Tove Blanc Noir makes more sense
but doro self atk buff should help with that
During her enhanced basic attacks
why can't they just give her 5 pierce shots
easier math lol
She doubles pierce range, so +6 
does 1 pellet multipierce count as multiple hit count?
Pierce range doesnt increase pierce damage
if 1 doro pierce hit 80 parts will she just get reset to 3 pierce rounds? or spaghetti code +3 instead 
assuming that multihit + each part for more pellet hit count
she has a lot of dmg buff but it only exists when she's in S1
hence you want to be S1 as much as you can
Then just be in s1
toveT poliT each +10 pellets 
Dont shoot when u gain s1
so shes in perma s1
maybe someone will just add those special pierce rounds max count instead of doro getting only 3 per farmed hits
Wow so smart
Make poli 20s and give out CDR, give us the OG SG team back
poli sugar isabel GD
Just slap bunny Alice for heals and you are good to go
It does if you hit multiple things with said range 
How often do we hit parts tho

It's 2025 I just expect to smash my head against a brick wall

Still 1 pellet
Source?
Trust me bro
Now watch her slug shots count as buffs, and Alice just happens to give 1 stack of it 
naga?
Not sure where you're getting single pellet pierce

Neve and Naga
forgor neve
Neve was old F2P meta for SI Chatterbox 
I started with the original nier collab so that was before my time prob
Tove Blanc Doro Noir trust me bro
It probably does tbh idk if stacking buff tho
doro certified pierce user
if you still remember that washed(also water) doro also got pierce from her burst
Doro doro team
Damn doro will be bussin
I have high hopes for tove treasure and medium hopes for poli treasure
I have a bad feeling they will make poli's treasure worth the P3 just to mess up with people trying to get both to P3 before the next solo raid
Just getting 1 to P3 will already be a nuisance
i will be happy if she's useful at all
seems like the last few times half the treasures weren't
One godly.. one good (drake) and some decent like hacker girl and viper.. rest has been trash
I regret doing laplace and diesel 
I think Julia will end up pretty good.. but then again who cares about her
@half halo without sg team how does she compare to QEQ/xlud/helmT in dmg
I'm at work atm 
Like regular team for both
very bad
I'm sure Doro on Liter/Siren Crown will lose insanely hard to Xlud/QEQ/Fatty
not to even mention Helm da goat
but isn't da goat phant-
Who?

oh wait, vs Kraken, you can hit two tentacles + body
I forgot
time for pause spam
Treasure Tove incoming 
Do you think she would be good on her own even without other shotgun support ?
to be fair, I haven't seen any sg can run solo without Tove. Viper was a joke lol
This is why I really don't like the multiplication of 1% banner. At least is all the 1% were super META in most mode, yeah it would be a bit less painful.
But the "new" 1%, while strong, are niche and doesn't work well once you leave the perfect situation.
They should be 1.5% rate imo, stronger than 2%, but less than "true" 1% 
I Can't wait to use Summer doro...in the fall when i finally lvl my bay & tove treasures!! oh anniversary is here?! 😩
at least all the more reason to not go for 1 copy
True
But fr if she’s perma stuck in sg comp then she’s not all that versatile is she
I need to see tove's treasure kit ASAP
I need Poli's new kit 

if she is in SG comp
does she stuck in SG comp
or SG comp is for her
like Cindy

also, they just need to make her S1 has very high uptime, and we will have wet Rapi

at that moment, you now have 2 neutral comps which can run against every boss
poli might be sanis for doro 
Tove Poli Doro Isabel Arcana
Wait no CDR
Sadge
What if Tove gets CDR now
poli please do what pinne couldn't
give salvation to doro
tbf poli doesn't have to do anyting for shotgun
If tove gets CDR she kicks Bsoda out of the SG team inmediatly
But I don't think they will do it
pinne is the 6th member in the squad and she got re-enter burst
- Upon using Burst Skill.
Grants all allies Makeshift Vehicle for 10s. - Affects all allies upon exiting Full Burst if self is in Makeshift Vehicle status.
Burst Skill CD -5s
I bet her Skill 1 will be:
- Affects all allies upon landing 20 normal attack(s) if they are in Temporary Modification status.
Temporary Modification stack▲ 1.
Is that the smell of Doroty kit in the air? 
our goddess of victory reduced to water niche
this is sacrilege
i'm beginning to understand why the ark closed the doors on her
Basically your name
but cuz full burst is 15s with bsoda
makeshift Vehicle 10s ran out first so no cdr 
Exactly thats the design

I'm interested in
Temporary Dorofication: Max Special Rounds increased by 5 continuously
Tmr Elegg fr
I feel like Tove will get CDR or Poli
Tove Poli Doro Isabel Arcana
Might be a thing
Poli gaining CDR makes more sense
This way she is a slot pressure
And u cant just fit her in everywhere
I assume every x pellets landed, burst skill cd -xs
This way if u dont have Arcana-Isa, you can use Leona Drake or something but no heals
~~poli cursed 40s cd stays and need pellets hit to provide cdr to the team
need leona as second B2 ~~
You know what would be funny? If trove got pierce buffs instead of cdr
Leona stonk
that way, Doro will have 100% uptime on her S1
which is nice
pierce is overrate buff these days


So am I wrong or am I wrong, Doropity is a piercing SG that needs to hit 8 times outside of full burst, 6 times inside of full burst, to switch to single-pellet piercing mode?
And since pellets are just dividing the damage to begin with, 1 pellet is still full damage, just in one shot.
1 pellet is still full dmg yes
And, with Leona, she instead needs to hit 4 times inside of full burst?
yes
And 1 pellet can hit core guarantee with good aim.
Within 15s full burst duration, how many shots would she fire under maximum attack speed? 
So she decide that shotgun suck and switch to snipe rifle instead
With Leona, it's, and idk how many shots she can ultimately shoot with or without Tove:
4, 3 (piercing), 4, 3 (piercing), 1 = 15 shots (the maximum rof)
Without Leona:
6, 3 (piercing), 6 = 15 shots (the maximum rof)
Leona become unofficial member of SG comp, she just keep coming back.
the big shot gives her attack damage up so it still does more damage than regular shots
And, SGs are 1.5 shots per second
So for 15 seconds, they can only fire 10 times without rof buffs, and that's assuming their first and last shots are within full burst duration
well she has rof buffs
hopefully tove treasure makes her buff reliable so she's not poo poo garbage
If attack speed can be trusted to not be stupidly applied, then, 65% attack speed from her own burst, and Tove's... what's Tove's?
Tove's is 42.24%
107.24%? Is there a cap?
So I guess Doropity is either at cap or 1% short of it
Which means Doropity doesn't even need Tove when it comes to maximum rof
60 shotguns per second 
Wat r u caping? 
attack speed
But y
So 1.5 per second, reduce by 66%, what do we get?
Does sugar not shoot faster with tove?
Or "shoot faster by 66%"?

Can we call this doro
Dorodipity?
I just grabbed a random indication that seemed to suggest Sugar doesn't, assuming you got her lvl10 burst.
If she doesn't have lvl10 burst, say maybe lvl4, then she's helped by Tove for shooting faster
So you might be noticing this effect - a not-maximum Sugar getting a speed boost
more like doropeety because they're taking the piss with 1% limiteds
I never tested cuz I dont have sugar maxed but why would they have a random cap 
Can we get some skill resets if Tove gets burst cdr
i dont see an issue. Just ticket
Reading doro kit I don't think tove is getting cdr
Is this wrong, 50% attack speed means 1.5 rof becomes 0.75 rof?
Or is that, actually 100% attack speed?
That is wrong because that's 100%
Your TOVE isn't invested?
So 1 second is what it changes to?
Alright, that is fine, recalculating the Doropity shots...
imagine playing sg
TOVE is Missilis of course i invest in her
U have to take 60/1.5 fire rate= 40 /1.5 speed increase = 26.666 frames per shot= 27/60 = 2.2222/s
No I meant to move books from bsoda to sDoro
just keep both.
Updated
With Leona, it's, and idk how many shots she can ultimately shoot with or without Tove:
4, 3 (piercing), 4, 3 (piercing), 1 = 15 shots (the maximum rof)Without Leona:
6, 3 (piercing), 6 = 15 shots (the maximum rof)
In B4 tove 15s buff, rng reduction and 15s fb duration
I'm' just straight broke on tier 3 skill books
Since it's actually offset a bit because you landed shots leading up to full burst, it's not as clean cut as what I just wrote
But if it was, then no Leona means Doropity loses a ton of damage
Wat if Doropity is meant for Overclock?
Say if Tove gets cdr it relieves the bottleneck of only Dorothy for cdr
If ideal scenario is to have piercing shots going into full burst, then:
With Leona:
3 (piercing), 4, 3 (piercing), 4, 1 (piercing) = 15 shots at max rof
- 7 piercing shots within 15s Full Burst duration
Without Leona:
3 (piercing), 6, 3 (piercing), 3 = 15 shots at max rof
- 6 piercing shots within 15s Full Burst duration
Okay, I take back "loses a ton of damage"
So tldr get max ammo ele attack on Doropity?
It depends heavily on how you enter the full burst but that seems hard to control unless you can keep track of Doropity hits count
If it's easy to keep track, maybe you can be willing to delay full burst until she is about to get piercing effect
Oh yeah, reloading in the middle of this would suck huh?
Idk if she can easily get sufficient ammo from team buffs
If she does then she doesn't need max ammo lines
I'll leave that to Gatrix and others, who I kindly shall refrain from pinging
no way
Ultimately, it's also important to land Doropity's special range enhanced piercing shot during Full Burst, the one that needs 160 pellets to hit, if you miss doing so she's losing some damage unless SG range is already ideal
wait it isn't, poli is 1.5 reload 201.5% dmg too
haven't seen the vid for her gameplay, but aren't almost all stacks visuals? i'm sure you'd see if she had one there
I didn't look but until shift up shows me in-game I never know
no bc then peope will say galice
man this game 
Until I have it recorded on OBS I have no idea what anything is

And even then it can change 
it's funny how OG Doro avoid ammo like plague and DoroS consume them like no tomorrow
the duality of this bitch
which she spends under 1s

how can you even prolong that
wheres the usual pinned comment 
mid
PIN IT
Here's the real question
Does eve win or doro win
On the booty game
The real power creep
doro imo
Booty creep
shes lower than both drake and bsoda, both are attackers poli is defender
wait for tove treasure
ye, at-least 90% accuracy last time since the datamine data was kinda vague
yes but archetype differences, class doesn't apply to that. bsoda and drake are clip sg, sdoro and poli are mag sg
flabby butt
i have no rocks and i must scream spend

they always vary a lot i dont see why she would be on the lower end/lowest end
Sg reloads also vary alot, that's usually the defining factor between weapon conversion
privatyM is the most cucked one
yeah but since she’s gonna have a lot of ammo anyways i dont think a .6 second reload difference would be a big hit considering it would come with 10-30% more weap multiplier

like ik shes still good it just irks me a bit
it's just the main defining factor, she also burns the crap out of her bullets with atk speed
yeah but 3 special bullets
oh huh i guess it still detracts from ammo
multiplier also boosts everything and when she has these really high self buffs the 10% multiplier increase is a much bigger impact
again its fine its just interesting that they constantly keep putting weird multipliers on good units to shadow nerf them
the og broken character scarlet came with a self buff
mag nerf is less of a brick than multiplier nerf
cause max ammo exists
no way to increase multipliers
the issue with it is burst gen
sg team doesnt have burst gen issues
it does when your clips start turning into mags
That sorta makes sense, but SGs do not lack for burst gen considering their inability to cycle faster most of the time
Usually you have to wait 2-4 seconds for Tove’s burst to finish cooling down
So unless you bench BSoda and stick in a high CDR, odds are it’ll be fine
my concern is in pvp
she would be
even if using her as sac there's viper
without bursting herself she does nice damage
what dmg
it's only dmg before burst that matters in 90% of cases
she's one of the worst at it in the b3 category
low multi
and there are fire opponents in pvp that specifically are a hassle for shotgun
nero
i think you're wrong when you say that clip sdoro would not see pvp play
let me know when you see someone using viper purposefully for nero
and for it to actually make a difference
that has already happened
viper is part of ca sg comp but not everyone has her invested
not when her stage 3 of treasure fucks you over in pvp
no one uses viper for nero killing
- not reg archetype see ammo
- clip sg
- not reg archetype see reload
2 clips still in the team i think its enough
see i can look ahead
the only realistic use I see of her (if she somehow was clip), is as a sac b3 unit to increase odds vs scar jack, to die faster so your b2 and b3 live long enough to clean up after rosa snipe
her being mag is simply inferior to clip
defending it is why we see shit like this
of course our 1% limited pilgrims are mag
speak up about it and people will tell you 'no it doesn't matter'
while it is strictly inferior
not counting tove attack speed up so again burst gen isnt an issue
i agree but there’s nothing we can do with her shes already released
that's true
s anis got shadow nerfed with clip but her normal attack is still stupid high for some reason
im annoyed about the multiplier
the multiplier reduction, how bad is it?
pretty bad for a dps unit imo
i never actually noticed that number in the corner 
but they prob just modified her kit buff numbers to make up for it
so realistically not a big deal in dmg department except for pvp
she reloads quicker to compensate or what
no
she has the same exact gun as poli
neve and leona have same gun and element as her
did doro steal poli's gun or something
I guess you can call neve a dps
oh yeah poli too
poli’s burst gen is really ass though
they probably made her mag thinking "oh fuck she shoots too fast for clip to keep up s1 if she's alone" 
SU hates water so much, they cursed almost all water sgs with garbage weapon
hopefully it has better burst gen
if its exact exact the same that sucks
leona has the same multiplier but better gen so kekw
including sdoro, 5/6 of the water sgs have the same weapon
lmao
viper the only exception
i wish they gave her guilty’s gun but nah

even isabels is better
210.7% for 1.86s reload speed
tove treasure might give team wide reload from her S1
where is that watashi wa godessu doro meme when you need it
but maybe im coping too hard
proc chance to 10% and every 10 procs you reload 2 bullets teamwide
would be like shittier bastion cube
poli i see potential
if they make her 20s and individual shields team wide thats already pretty solid

doro reading her new kit
that handles burst skill, S2 needs a teamwide buff and S1 needs higher attack%
she already gives 50% attack tho which is a decent amount
and thats before adding more kit multipliers
ofc if they leave her 40s its already perma brick tho

but i have decent hopes for her
if they make S1 like 30% thats 30% permanent attack
they’ll probably add some other buff too so

She's pilgrim
if they make ttove give decent heals, I can see it being a good case for doro being used in all
ttove leona doro bsoda drake
leona kinda mid
JewUp
otherwise she still has to compete with drake mainly, which is... kinda sad
idk if the pellets are worth
if she can't be mainstay in sg team even with ttove then she's actually more mid than midhara imo
then some other b2 like grave or mari
30% crit rate 34% crit dmg and 5 pellets
Leona is a very mid b2 buffer
and 20% hit rate but thats not as important, doro and soda already have plenty of hit rate and drake also buffs
poligoat has 50% attack
just make her 20s and add like one more buff and make her shield individual
oh yeah maybe ttove + tpoli is enough
leagues better than leona
forgot we're getting that
poli with modified individual shield by itself is prob enough
its already better than leona for sure
so she can only get better with more treasure kit
but if sg still needs 2 support slots (bunnies tiga), then doro is in danger imo unless she's just simply better than bsoda/drake in almost all cases
in danger as in, extremely sad for a limited pilgrim
the main issue is bsoda is needed for burst extend and drake is just too good of a buffer
but im pretty sure they’re cooking it for poliT to be in the team
she got sustain which the team needs, has pretty solid attack buffs
if they made her somehow inflict dmg taken
shes god tier
cause sg team is kinda oversaturated with attack% buffs and attack dmg
i guess they could go the way of making her a crit buffer
and have toveT increase her crit given
I don't have very high hopes for Tove treasure
They only make overpowered treasures when they want to sell a gacha skin and Tove doesn't have fat tits
she gives 15% crit dmg and 30% in burst with permanent 3% crit rate (assuming max stacks)
Poli gacha skin 
if they make the crit dmg double and make the crit rate 15% then poli a crit buffer the sg team will hit very hard
Sorry but I don't quite understand what they mean by "round"
its an ammo count
round = one ammo
they usually use round when its a special bullet
sgs fire 10 pellets
pellet is each individual “bullet” shot
sgs are the only gun to have 1 ammo be 10 “bullets” ie pellets
Doro will clear path to my monkey cave
How’s Dorothy looking thus far pre-analysis?
Middoro.
How she looking from the back though?
broken spine
...no?
No datamine of the back shot?
She is just single target shotter in PvP
Better Alice tbh
A tier
Strong offburst too
She shoots every around ~0.4s btw
I expect around 24-25 shots
Within 10 seconds
Thats how important max ammo is
She doesnt have max ammo btw
Is chatgpt legal here? Is Gatrix out of a job? 
Summary of the image:
No Leona, you can expect 4 piercing shots without Tove, 6 with.
Yes Leona, you can expect 6 piercing shots without Tove, 9 with.
Tf is cycle type
Doro's lack of multiplier makes her weak
She only scales on ammo, ele, crits, and multipliers (dmg distance/core/fb) mostly.
ATK is fine if no CDR
Oh and damage taken best ofc
I think Poli would pair well with her
And obviously Tove treasure
I was trying to ask chatgpt to determine rate of fire Doropity would have. Then calculating how many piercing shots (special shots) she can fit into a 15 seconds duration. Assuming no reloads. 4 normal shots leading to 3 special shots cycle is with Leona, 6 normal shots leading to 3 special shots cycle is without Leona
Since, 20 pellets with Leona and Doropity’s pellets enhancement, and only 15 with just Doropity’s own
If Doropity’s piercing shots are powerful enough, then Leona might become a must with her
It’s all wrong anyway, so nvm all that
Someone just told me attack speed is like charge speed
100% basically eliminates all interval between attacks
But Nikke has a minimum interval
3 shots per second is it
wtf, i figured it was base * (1 + s) where s is the % of speed buff, at least in aspd'd case
ShiftUp is very good at evading logic 
Well, maybe they were wrong or they’re messing with me 
shouldn't we have an idea bc of tove already existing?
did we had a Water SG before?
or Dorothy is the 1st Water SG?
Viper crying in a corner
though tbf, i'm not sure if you can reach 100% atm that being said. idk how much sugar has, and idk any other aspd units exist. soline iirc is broken
viper and unironically neve, iirc she was used in top score for mat h w grave
i thought Dorothy was the 1st Water SG nikke
I’ll probably have to personally test the rate of fire situation just so I don’t feel like others are either misleading me, or are incorrect, or are just repeating what they heard 
no
just kidding, can't find neve in top 10 for mat h. but i do remember A score using her
gotcha
leona 
what about her
top 4 world snake
ah my bad
, i remembered the team being different and missed it
think bc i expected another pierce w her, and for her to be bursting
for sr? probably not good since helm is really hungry for atk?
and sdoro has a lot of atk + dmg up
oh wait you'd just take helm anyway, or selegg if she fits well there. misread as the team being 5man
maybe if you’re water main in UR
dps helm is gonna be better than a sg buffer probably
tho ideally its just poliT and you run sg team as is
SG team gonna be my third ur team cause fuck my electric units
bad electric
wtf
i'm more surprised now if someone has a good iron than a good water
but very surprised if someone has a bad electric
my electric units all ass except cindy
iron also kinda meh
Treasure kit when?
during maintenance
meanwhile CN OG Doro doesn't care
og Doro buff wenn?? 
So, skip doro pull a2 right?
Skip em all

A2 is a meme
skip a2 pull sora
Skip all of them, buy swimsuit liter
My liter with both summer and sunflower skin: 

I hope they learned their lesson after nobody bought the last skin reruns for 20$ and decided to make the price reasonable this time

what lesson? i bought every rerun skin on my 3 alt 
Doro
How much will limit breaks impact her dmg since she has self attack buffs?
Who?
Sugar math was that it was multiplicative, not like charge speed
And Tove too
Doropity needs ammo
She spends 24-25 herself in her own burst
Add Tove and it's explosion
With Tove
She shoots around once every ~0.323s
30-31 shots
Even without Tove,
You need max ammo
At least 3
With Tove u still need, well, 3.
-1 if using Noir ig
Or just reload and waste 2s in Full Burst cus why not
Hmm I didnt take Bastion into account yet
I guess -1 if you use Bastion
- Bastion: 2 ammo
- Noir: 2 ammo
- Bastion + Noir: 2 ammo
- Non Bastion (e.g. Pierce/Destruction cube) w/o Noir: 3 ammo
Remember Drake gives +50% max ammo
Youre not gonna use Drake all the time
Need Tove and Poli new kits to know
If we will use Drake
Or Bsoda
Or both
Or neither
I doubt Poli would do anything but reinforce Drake use
The better she is for SG comp, the less compelling Blanc is
naga tia blanc noir permabenched soon huh
Nah
only for missilis and tetra tower
Should be getting bosses with consistent cores rehashed
They'll come back
Providence was proof of that
93%/95% for Tia/Naga
If Poli is 20s burst with some form of healing or shield turned Crown-like, bunnies benched for core bosses, Tiga benched for non-core

51% use on both bunnies for Providence
Most of those uses were SG comp if Tiga used for Raven
But Tiga went with SG comp if S Ros was used with Raven
poli treasure is kind of a slap on leona's ass she doesn't deserve to be crept
similar stance to doro now that i look at it
i guess leona does look more natural
Yeah, S Doro as the Leona/Crown slanted doggy style pose
I'd argue Leona was never meta in the first place
So she's not really getting powercrept
i think she was during mpriv days
Those were few 
with freed up bunnies/tianaga there's no leona lol
never really meta when solo raid needed heals from tiga/bunnies and electric team started being a thing
really meta can mean a lot of things ofc
She was high profile for four raids: Crystal Chamber and Land Eater (electric-weak), Grave Diggger (SG paradise), and first Massive Object (brick)
does she stlil run when mpriv is used?
Nope
yeah then she's crept
Behemoth and Ice Drag hit too hard
we can get a leona treasure next year maybe
Leona has always been dead when bosses actually hurt
even if electric-weak
(haven't put in most data for Providence yet, but Leona was 0%)
If going by original idea that treasures were for rarely used units, Leona should've gotten one over Tove
but SU probably wants people to stop complaining about Tove RNG
i'm not sure why poli got the treasure over leona but it might have to do with their choices of 2 limited + 2 standards getting one
Poli getting treasure because she deserves one
they want a balance of old, launch units ig?
Oh wait, some people used her vs Gravedigger
"underused" means nothing though when tove of all units is put in the same room as julia
Then Tove still doesn't qualify
still no treasure info yet ?
if i think game wide i think poli is more used because she's winning championships arenas lol

Tove failed every check box possible for treasure unit
You think they balance around PvP? 
"balance" is like 2:2 per wave
idr the old waves exactly now though
That's why it's just to fix rng
i'm pretty sure they are deliberately avoiding making good pvp characters
Miranda giving SW 100% crit is same move
reduce % proc but increase atk speed
If it doesn't, then my only thought would be to sell skin 
would be funny
I don't think they gave us treasure kits last time, either
Had to be datamined
But anyway, regarding Doro vs Drake T, I think the only way Drake's getting kicked out is if Tiga is the meta support duo for SG comp this time
Cuz then Tia/Tove/Naga/S Doro/B Soda/
After seeing milk treasure I believe they could just slap some pierce buff and cdr and call it a day for trove. What, we are getting Pierce shotgun after all

doro's glistening skin looks dangerously AI-gen
I happen to know because I do it every day
Doro doesn't need pierce buff cuz she has her own built-in buff
did miranda properly fix sw rng? then i believe tovetr could do it too
not if your sw doesn’t have highest atk in the team
Tove Poli Arcana Isabel Doro is the way
They give post update
If u want earlier need datamine
I mean like 1h after mt starts
We shudnt discuss that here though
give drake tr for free
bench her
Hey that's me 
Sae the reddit resident
I keep seeing ur name
EVERYWHERE
KARMA FARMING
SMH

I posted only 2 times today 
How is that not a template that gets filled
This is cool. When I look at it, I read it as CODE, but even though I realize it’s COOE or CDDE, just looking at the image still fires off “CODE”
The brain doing its magic smh
smol indie company
its got more D cause Doro 
he's an addict
at least he plays the game
not all r/nikke users do


Each second he waits he loses 10m score from his next solo raid
Yes now there’s a 5% chance Tove inserts the bullets up a nikke’s ass instead and kills them
Would be funny if pitiful dorks team were all units with favorite treasures
@round goblet huh beeg whale says to pull
all jokes aside if Doropity becomes a Overclock Infinite bottleneck in 2 weeks froma SG requirement I'd get really mad, because as of now only normal Dorothy hasa consistent enough burst cdr (and maybe Tove Favorite Item later)

are you trying to get top 10%? i think your team can do that
10% no bro I'm trying to get 100%
Sorry bad joke. I'm trying my best
I wish for 10%
If they continue doing weapon type rotations, it’s unlikely that SDoro will be mandatory to beat Water Overclock Infinity
If there’s a SG rotation and you’re screwed without her, then there will be a different weapon type that says, “You should’ve built Bready”
Or “You should’ve built Queen Quency”
Or “You should’ve built Winter Ludmilla”
With Queen Quency and Winter Ludmilla, there should be a way to beat it without relying on Summer Dorothy
Congrats on the enslavement 
Although I wonder why you're doing this though. Fun?
Nikke.gg is no longer dead 
||and got a better writer||
cause Sjay asked me to

figured I might as well cause I'm a literal slave
for 5 unions
So now hes the manager and refuses to write smh lazyjay haiya
Pilot?
Oh

Are there


u gotta "test it" tho 

bundle of stats character needs good testing

SJay forced him
He only wrote because Sjay asked him to
Does he have a choice
when is prydwen getting a top solo raider writer
I actually refused to prewrite Doro because Poli and Tove will 100% change what I write
Lmao
Kisenix was top 30 SR wdym 
was
Idk Snake says we have enough but I also noticed hes a double agent from Nikke.gg

I'm a triple agent cuz lootsandwaifus too
Damn son
Im gonna pressure Antillar to get another writer
Cant. Was pay gated. Rank 19 was my highest. Used to rank 35+/50+ consistently thanks to Sin's help. But you know my situation now.
Maybe if I whale top 10/15 is possible, but Shinonono's and Kira's skills for example are way out of my league
Oh so top 20 SR 
Not their accounts but literally their skills
Maybe with a whale account, I can get Top 10 SEA
Are you sure my friend
Who do you suggest
Yes, eos soon
If the SR Raider writes the char guides that means I no longer have to write the char guides 
Im gonna kidnap someone
Nikke.gg kidnapped two people
Time for us to kidnap one more

But anyways Doro is impossible to write without knowing the treasure kits
But Elegg can be eyeballed
She just gonna be a bossing unit
Shit everywhere else
As far as Im concerned
Doro is not good for Campaign because hitting pellets will be very hard. Still usable though. And with her burst + faster atk spd + tons of buffs, she should still be able to kill some monsters. As long as you can regularly get her enhanced attacks, it's all good. And terrain hits count too iirc.
PvP she is just Alice but better technically. She feeds more though. A tier for sure.
Probably S for Campaign?
time to steal from don group so u can write in chinese and get even wider audience
play
Don group?


How much you guys paying 
Is a fiver fine
I can double it probably
This has to be the play tbh
500iq play
that leaves us with the burst cdr bottleneck
Rouge and to a lesser extent Liter were brutal, but if tove doesn't deliver Dorothy might be even worse
Somewhere, there’s going to be a treasure that says:
“If an ally has a broken back, continuously increase that ally’s ATK by 400%”
@soft basalt I hope fire is the overclock infinite code fix for season 5
even if Grave is a soft bottleneck, it's simply far more important to have flexible burst cdr options with Rapipi and DKW
Iron (beats Electric) ->
Electric (beats Water) ->
Signs point to next Overclock Infinity being Water-weak.
Pray hard for your hope 
Wait, I got that backwards Fixed it
wdym, I have Siren and SBS ready to go
Fixed 
all we need to hope for is Spotlight doesn't return and there's bunnies
Spotlight?
no identical squad
last seen in season 2 beta
for example, no liter and centi on the same team because they are Mighty Tools
Oh
In any case I edited the post because I had the elements backwards
The first Infinity was Iron-weak. Then the current Infinity is Electric-weak. Iron beats Electric. So what does Electric beat?
That’s the current theory I’ve seen which has some merit
So you’ve gotta hope it’s not Water weak
Oh Fire code fix, so you were hoping for Water-weak

no fire weak
RIP
I'd love to see spotlight in water weak
Nukes Aegis, Cooking Oil, and Inherit (read: 2
)

all of you will still get a copy anyway
limited pilgrim btw 
Ima get single copy for now, since yeah, limited pilgrim
I'll wait and see for the testing analysis
add Sea to it
Well top 50 SEA is top 100 NA
Top 20 means Top 70 at least

Though the gap between whales and f2ps continue to widen
- F2Ps can barely MLB all Pilgrims now
- Cube batteries are more obtainable by higher rank unions. Outside Top 10? Good luck.
Ok thats all
But these both have huge impact
Like last season "I" probably lost a good amount of score because I dont have leveled Pierce cube
wh
Why would f2p MLB anyone
Love
where tests?
Bro
Me
Bro lol

And I wasted everything I saved to finally get her. This freaking woman 
all 10 Doro and Treasure Tove?
why does doro call the commander 'your grace'
is we kingz now?
doro 10/10/9 (ran out of burst mats) no tove treasure yet, doro is 1 ele, 3 hit rate, 2 ammo, 0 atk




























