[Elegg: Boom and Shock] New Unit Megathread

[slender mesa]

no ol 1/1/1 s.elegg valid to post or so shit?

[vapid fable]

Nonono

10/10/10

Jk

U hate me now :/

Sorry for the last msg I sent u

[hushed root]

@eternal breach I was joking. In reality, I think you might even be 1 burst level if you never burst.

But, it's like XMaiden. At a minimum you want to blow her burst as final burst of battle.

[vapid fable]

[hushed root]

So it's going to be 7-10 there for sure

[vapid fable]

10/7/7 if not properly damage built

[velvet fable]

feet

[vapid fable]

10/10/10 for 4 ele 4 atk SElegg

[hushed root]

Yep 10/7/7 or 10/10/7. I guess S2 not as hot?

[hard sand]

One copy is good enough?

[vapid fable]

The problem is not that S2 is as important as Burst

[hushed root]

This is her S2

[vapid fable]

The problem is 7+ is expensive

If any

10/7/7 → 10/10/7 → 10/10/10 does make more sense.

[hushed root]

Sure

[vapid fable]

So she stacks 13 ghosts fastest at 72 seconds right

[hushed root]

I tried rental Elegg in shooting range. She's pathetically easy to play

[vapid fable]

118 / 6 ≈ 19 triggers

Yeah probably max S2

[hushed root]

We don't even have to worry about whether to spam shots or full charge like on XMaiden

[vapid fable]

Maybe max S2 if ure serious about water weak raid @eternal breach

[velvet fable]

original elegg lobby is more detailed than summer egg

nice limited unit

[vapid fable]

Note "you're serious"

[hushed root]

Just do 7/7/7 for casino luck

[vapid fable]

Not level 10-ing S1 is a wasted opportunity

Its a global Water ally buff

Also affects self

[hushed root]

But I have to say, the way ShiftUp presents information is still ass.

I can't even see how many ghosts SElegg has, anywhere

Blanc head too fat

[vapid fable]

Why do you even need to count

Her in burst damage not that good anyways

[hushed root]

😛

[vapid fable]

And ure losing dmg bursting with her

[hushed root]

Just a refrain. Like trying to keep track of Crown stacks

[vapid fable]

That's different

[vapid fable]

Oh yeah but she doesnt have burst gen

[hushed root]

[vapid fable]

Helm's value

[hushed root]

At least her burst skill cutscene lobby is better than XMaiden... right?

It is, right?

[vapid fable]

Siren Crown SDoro HelmTr SElegg

Best water team

[hushed root]

Okay, back to serious stuff. The pulls

[vapid fable]

If someone is willing to do a test

[mint rain]

Doing a test rn but low investment

No mats

[slender mesa]

even with low invest she is doing pretty good

[vapid fable]

But S1 lebel 10?

[static venture]

Well, time to see if miss Doomgirl is any good.

[hushed root]

10 pulled her. Go me

[velvet fable]

cursed cook

[vapid fable]

She Good?
YES, because she raises Water-weak bossing's damage ceiling. She is MAINLY an off-burst support for Water-weak bossing. Her S1 gives unconditional ELE buff to Water allies, which is broken when paired with broken Water DPS. As support, she doesn't need a lot of invests, but if you want damage, good luck. Note that she is better as off-burst, but you need to Burst once at the end (XMaiden style).

Expected Investment Advice
Will edit on new findings.

• Skills: 4/4/4 → 7/4/4 → 10/7/7 (→ 10/10/10)
  • S1 most important. Invest regardless of SElegg's OL quality. Might be more important than your DPS's skills, even (but only in Water-weak).
  • S2/Burst Skill elevates self damage, only worth maxing if her OL is decent. Mathematically, S2 > Burst.
  • Edit: S2's 40% ATK buff affects Burst Skill damage and is therefore more important. Thanks @zealous shale.
• OLs: 4× ELE, 4× ATK, and Max Ammo for basic-attack damage.
• Cube: Bastion outside Reload Speed comp, Resilience inside Reload Speed comp. Destruction might be situationally useful. Highest level cube preferred if elemental advantage.
• Dolls: Not that dependent. SR 0/SR 5 should be fine, but if you want to minmax her buff (caster's ATK), then SR 15.

[velvet fable]

wait does srosanna even buff xguillotine?

[fleet torrent]

Where are the results

Guys it's been 25 minutes

[velvet fable]

we're gambling

[old thicket]

[slender mesa]

invest in s.eggs over s.doro?

[old thicket]

no

doro > seggs for sure if you're investing

[slender mesa]

[vapid fable]

S1 yes

Other skills no

[old fractal]

Can someone check if you do get the ele buff at 4 ghosts or not

[mint rain]

4/4/4 sr0 kinda underwhelming she getting out damage by siren

[slender mesa]

seggs on low investment looks better tho

[old fractal]

EN vs JP kit description

[old thicket]

if you really don't wanna invest into water I guess yeah

[slender mesa]

full afk agains water with minimal investment coz cba

[slender mesa]

can only build one

no rocks for both

[vapid fable]

S1 lebel 10?

[slender mesa]

dude read

under dmg numbers

[old thicket]

honestly could try OLing both coming up 2x full burst

[vapid fable]

Bro its so small

[old thicket]

and see who gets the better base rolls

and invest that way

[slender mesa]

zoom in

[old thicket]

if doro rolls shit skip

[vapid fable]

Ok theres no SElegg's invest

You scammed me

[slender mesa]

1/1/1 - 4/4/4 - 7/7/4

[old thicket]

[velvet fable]

no...

[vapid fable]

Fucking scammer

[slender mesa]

told you no ol

[vapid fable]

And where tf is Doro

[vapid fable]

No way

[old thicket]

they just said they can't invest into both

[vapid fable]

Why you no build Doro

Brick

[slender mesa]

[vapid fable]

Sir can u just test Doro

[vapid fable]

Very cursed indeed

[slender mesa]

might do that

[old fractal]

. Please

[velvet fable]

imagine building doro

[vapid fable]

No way we got 2 brickers

[velvet fable]

damn i'm running out of attacker missilis chests

wait she's attacker?

attacker attack share

[vapid fable]

Thank you @old thicket. This one short and good, right

[fleet torrent]

Fr tho who even builds water

[vapid fable]

3 brickers

[slender mesa]

this one ?

[fluid spade]

what is scope lock skills and ols again? 10 all skills and no ol lines?

[velvet fable]

i only build bready

[slender mesa]

i am at 4 stacks

[vapid fable]

Hmm ask @autumn whale

[old fractal]

Yup

Activated at 4 stacks?

[velvet fable]

feet

[vapid fable]

So its 4 and above

[old fractal]

Stupid EN translation team

[vapid fable]

Inclusive

[old fractal]

[slender mesa]

i was at 4 when i checked

[old thicket]

yeah it's good

[old fractal]

Ty yeah

[vapid fable]

Nikke has always translated things inclusive though

[old fractal]

It is EN's kit mistranslation

[vapid fable]

But maybe they shud improve it

[mint rain]

What do u guys test in the 1:30 stage or the three min boss stage

[old fractal]

It says more than 4 for EN

[velvet fable]

ok i got 255 rocks time to waste them all on this meme unit

[old fractal]

JP says at least 4

[slender mesa]

just check 3 and no ele buff so when u hit 4 u get it

[old fractal]

Yeah, EN says "more than 4"

[velvet fable]

intern-kun is trying his best

[vapid fable]

Iirc there are other Nikkes like this

I dont rmb which

[velvet fable]

hell yeah i love charge damage

[vapid fable]

You said you don't want to max her S2 and Burst

But are optimizing her OL

Seems counterproductive

[velvet fable]

[hushed root]

More jiggles per second

[vapid fable]

CP padding

Next campaign boss is water weak fr

[clever jetty]

This is mine

[vapid fable]

Say that to f2ps

[slender mesa]

go test her pls

[vapid fable]

Good now ure forced to 10 10 10 her

[velvet fable]

8/12 but only one of those is ele dmg

[fleet torrent]

Can I ask you one question

What server are u in

[vapid fable]

You just did

No those are 2 questions

[hushed root]

ngl SDoro is hotter than SElegg

[velvet fable]

is the question why

[clever jetty]

Na

[fleet torrent]

[vapid fable]

Itsok hes just kidnapping people to join his union

Thats why he keeps asking people's servers

Hes in global

[clever jetty]

I did this run in my phone

[old thicket]

snake trying to kidnap people

[crimson pawn]

is she good or skip

[vapid fable]

Damn

[vapid fable]

BUT WHERE IS THE DOROOOOO

HOW DOES NO ONE BUILD DORO HERE

[slender mesa]

show your doro

[vapid fable]

[clever jetty]

I didnt build her

[vapid fable]

On my defense I only build her when raid starts

[clever jetty]

7/7/7 with meh lines

[vapid fable]

[slender mesa]

[sterile sentinel]

mine is built but need to pull Elegg lol

[vapid fable]

We have 4 people here that dont have Doro built

[clever jetty]

I think i can 10 tho

[vapid fable]

Ig I know someone to ask

[hard sand]

I ain't building segg until I get more data otherwise my built doro would be in play here

[vapid fable]

What data

Shes support

[old fractal]

Ok so yeah, you never lose the ele buff if you burst at 13 stacks

[vapid fable]

Just do 10/1/1 SElegg no OL and shes good enuf as support

If u want damage

Thats a different question

[hexed spire]

chatgpt how does selegg deal dmg

[old fractal]

10/7/7

[hexed spire]

that's easy to do

[old fractal]

She is never getting more than that for me

[vapid fable]

Just do 10/4/4 if u dont wanna overcommit

[hexed spire]

i did 10/6/6 for now

[old fractal]

I still want to use her pseudo nuke at the end

So 7 burst it is

[vapid fable]

pseudo nuke

[frank hare]

Just like Xmaiden then just burst at 30 seconds left lol

[hexed spire]

does she deal nice dmg herself? ele/atk/ammo worth it

[vapid fable]

Hmm I wonder if the burst gets affected by 40% atk buff

This is my biggest question of all time

Cus it changes A LOT of things

Its hard to know without the math brain people though

I guess we can leave that to @zealous shale

[wise light]

PvP unit now

[vapid fable]

It will help her ramp up faster!

Ok I think SElegg's bursting at 13 ghosts does not hurt her damage ay all. It probably even increases her damage but the problem here is that it's a wasted opportunity not to use another B3's burst.

I think there might be cases where it will be better such as before the boss disappears for 15 secs.

[wise light]

Surely

So she’s a xmaiden water confirmed?

[velvet fable]

it'll work

[vapid fable]

Too much cooking but yes

It WILL work

[stoic quarry]

Damn she is nice for harvester.. mine with terrible ol does similar/slightly better damage vs xlud too (also meh ol)

[vapid fable]

Ok imma sleep

The cooks are sleeping

Waiting for Shinonono

To post Siren Crown Doro HelmTr SElegg

On Harvester

2 min clear

Thats the only important thing here

Nothing else

[velvet fable]

DPS elegg confirmed bready tier

[zealous shale]

water weak boss

52078.6 * 8 = 416,628.8
416,628.8 * 1.5 = 624,943.2
624,943.2 * 1.1 = 687437.52```

i forgot to sync my mast so i didnt def shred properly

[vapid fable]

So what does this mean

[velvet fable]

wait

my bready has 0 ele

[zealous shale]

affected by 40% atk and full burst from what im seeing

[vapid fable]

I guess sequential is always affected?

[zealous shale]

should be

[vapid fable]

Cool

That makes S2 way more important than Burst

[urban maple]

so is she tight or what

[zealous shale]

with helm so looks like it takes on full burst buffs too

[vapid fable]

In the new tier list

In the making

Yes

Dunno

DorothyOG and Viper go down too though

QQ and Bready too

Well a lot

[slender mesa]

to s, shit tier

[vapid fable]

AnchorM probably will go down, MastM stays

[slender mesa]

sad m.anchors butt is sss

[vapid fable]

That is what we are discussing rn

But shes not as impactful as Crown

Usage is not everything

You dont lose much without MastM, but no Crown, just delete game

[spring island]

https://tenor.com/view/btweers-gif-12554037691025205909

guys she good?

[quartz harness]

hmmm to me so far, she seems best as an off burst in water teams

[stoic quarry]

Her damage not bursting.. 0 ele and 5% attack.. 7/7/1

[vapid fable]

Wrong investments

But Harvester died no

[stoic quarry]

My first time ever ye

[vapid fable]

Look at CP

Helm is well built for sure

[wise light]

Yep

[vapid fable]

Thats like obvious?

[hushed root]

35% ele dmg buff doesn't need to be built (aside from, obviously, the skill level)

So it's pretty easy. Stick her in as offburst, enjoy the Solo Raid score

[hexed spire]

new tech put seleggs in p5

[quartz harness]

bruh i just got her and looked at her kit and slapped her into offburst immediately

[stoic quarry]

Dorothy

Helm

[hexed spire]

that's a pretty beefy sdoro

[stoic quarry]

Helm is not great she has higher cp cause of cs

[velvet fable]

ok i have decided to actually overload my bready and she has 101% ele dmg now

hopefully elegg still beats her

[vapid fable]

My apologies Sir

That Doro is a bit bricked though

[velvet fable]

extra defense because she's a fat fucking pig

[vapid fable]

Arguably the Helm is less bricked cus she got CS for PvP

[stoic quarry]

I need some ammo from somewhere for her.. rolled on gloves multiple times 😦

[vapid fable]

Bros experiencing ammo deficiency syndrome

[vapid fable]

Bro keeps cooking Bready while we cook SElegg

[velvet fable]

not it's not even close

breadygorilla

[zenith warren]

So in the event story chapters I notices she gains a ghost charge when killing the ghost mob even if she doesn’t do the requisite amount of hits

[vapid fable]

Updated pin so people stop asking "is she good"

[spring island]

Thank you Not not not snake

[zenith warren]

This has near zero impact in raid but could be beneficial elsewhere I guess

[vapid fable]

For campaign

A bit cope

Cus needs to wait 18s

But not bad

[zenith warren]

🤮

But yeah

[vapid fable]

Elegg can use any cus Crown

Wait no

Resil better

Cus Crown

Waiting for your 2.5 min clear

[slender mesa]

🚮

[vapid fable]

HE KILLED AT 2.5 MINUTES

[slender mesa]

mmast instead of her is pretty much same time

[vapid fable]

No shit

MastM is indeed broken

Also ur SElegg not as invested

We talk when ur SElegg is 10/10/10 4 ele 4 atk 4 ammo

[slender mesa]

4 rocks and i get this shit

[vapid fable]

No ELE?

[slender mesa]

0

also 0 ammo

[vapid fable]

If we double Elegg's damage

[velvet fable]

it's okay i guess

[vapid fable]

Shed potentially beat ur Helm

[velvet fable]

srosanna revived

[vapid fable]

So calcs are right

Shes good

If built

Damage wise

[velvet fable]

seleggs kneels to bready

[vapid fable]

Never

[slender mesa]

101ele* bready u mean

[velvet fable]

bready will slam her fupa on table for massive damage

[storm imp]

anyone w built selegg, is she looking t1 offburst tier?

[vapid fable]

Is highest t0 or t1

[velvet fable]

what other water off bursts do you have?

[vapid fable]

XLud

[storm imp]

team 1 so ig t0

[vapid fable]

Hmm

Probably t1 cus its only water weak but if water weak is the only content that exists maybe t0.5

[storm imp]

makes sense

[velvet fable]

probably beats xlud or at least close?

but realistically you'd proabbly put xlud on a team with units that aren't water

and elegg on the water only team

[vapid fable]

Selegg offburst vs XLud offburst in water weak? Not even fair

You sir did you auto

No way ure dying with that comp

I think I know the problem

[storm imp]

ed/atk elegg?

[vapid fable]

Why her CP so low then

[storm imp]

gg

[vapid fable]

Maybe show her skill level?

Oh wait

10 10 10

[stoic quarry]

Did you burst with elegg?

[storm imp]

i'm surprised you're not clearing harvester w that lineup

[vapid fable]

[storm imp]

unless sdoro is absolute dogshit vs no core

[wise light]

Look at this. Bro has 16 black lines

[vapid fable]

Well whatever I dont think SElegg is the problem

Did u clear with MastM?

Or XLud?

[storm imp]

oh right i'm remembering when the core took a year to break when my sync was low

[vapid fable]

Oh

It shud break in the first 20 secs

[velvet fable]

it's actually worse with liter instead of siren

[vapid fable]

I mean the shell

[velvet fable]

kinda weird, i thought helm and elegg would pop off with liter since they don't have attack buffs in kit

[vapid fable]

Insignificant. Siren is technically better here but its because of Siren's damage, the difference maker here.

[shell sun]

🏃‍♂️

[stoic quarry]

Idk she seems good to me.. decent damage for offburst (even with no real ol).. buffing.. will be around for a while in water raid (hopefully we don't get many more this year tho)

[storm imp]

holy shit

0lb too

[vapid fable]

Invested selegg?

[shell sun]

elegg actually beat mast if u get 4 ele 4 atk

777 elegg 55% ele 20% atk
kinda trash ik

[storm imp]

now if only i had leftover rocks for elegg

[vapid fable]

Yeah so pin is correct

She does raise ceiling

Ig i can sleep now

[vapid fable]

I think S1 not 10 is a wasted opportunity

Like

U shud

Make it 10

[shell sun]

101010

-. -

[vapid fable]

No, S1 first

Do it now

Retest

[shell sun]

it is just 5% more ele

[vapid fable]

Just

Just

You sure

I mean

Thats 2.5% damage boost if u alr have 80% ele OL

Do you clear with MastM/XLud?

U shud try killing all the mobs first before seleggs burst

So her burst doesnt hit the mobs

[stoic quarry]

Hmm wierd.. I had similar numbers with xlud/mast (just missing out) and then cleared today with elegg.. I didn't burst at all with elegg tho

[vapid fable]

Maybe enuf to clear

[vapid fable]

Yeah maybe her burst is a problem

Cus mobs dilute it there

If u dont kill the mobs first

[hushed root]

So if want to build 1 ultimate water team, what is it and does it include SElegg?

[vapid fable]

U have to kill them first

[hushed root]

Is it that Crown, Siren, SDoro, HelmT3, SElegg team?

[vapid fable]

Yes

[vapid fable]

Yes

Assuming

Selegg is built

Yes

[clever jetty]

i did 2 runs with this

[hushed root]

How about if no Crown or Siren?

[vapid fable]

Hmm Grave

[old thicket]

DKW/Grave

[vapid fable]

Liter Grave

[hushed root]

That looks pretty good

[shell sun]

crown is what makes helm pogger

[vapid fable]

Liter to buff SElegg's burst

[old thicket]

go full pierce

[vapid fable]

Grave to abuse 8.2s CDR

Good comp

DKW seems kinda... worse.

[old thicket]

I think it mainly depends if doro gets to pierce or not

if no gimmick definitely go liter

[vapid fable]

*Liter Grave Doro HelmTr SElegg

That is 2nd best if no Siren Crown

[vapid fable]

Hmm

Pierce dmg always buffs pierce dmg

It doesn't matter if theres pierce opportunity or not

[old thicket]

yeah but wouldn't it lean more to pierce buffs if she was actually piercing +1

[vapid fable]

Her pierce buff is also as diluted during piercing as ATK.

[old thicket]

true

[vapid fable]

But the main problem is not that, it's the 7s CDR.

You're missing out.

1.2s saved per burst ≈ one more FB.

You can get 15 rotations

[stoic quarry]

Elegg + siren (almost) auto clears mobs/bombs after full stack

[vapid fable]

Elegg S2 clears bombs?

Auto?

Damn

So not only mobs

Crazy beech

[stoic quarry]

Her boom thing is clearing the ball bombs yes

[vapid fable]

Damn

Op

SS tier

[stoic quarry]

So maybe helm didn't waste her ult into a mob in your other runs @eternal breach idk

[slender mesa]

what is this s.doro propaganda

[clever jetty]

lel

[stoic quarry]

Damn that helm is on steroids

[slender mesa]

can u move helm over rapi?

[clever jetty]

alright

[jolly wagon]

ols?

[vapid fable]

Your Doro is not on steroid thats why

[velvet fable]

doro...

[vapid fable]

Unbuilt

[slender mesa]

she so low

[vapid fable]

Fair

[velvet fable]

10/10/10 doro

[vapid fable]

Ammo deficiency syndrome

[stoic quarry]

Could be.. I also didn't burst with elegg so maybe doro burst more then yours

[velvet fable]

[vapid fable]

Well mathematically

Helm nuke is weaker

But

[jolly wagon]

[vapid fable]

If Helm is more invested and has ELE OLs

Different question

Unbrick Doro

[slender mesa]

what to do

[stoic quarry]

Yeah pretty good unit.. worth pulling specially cause limited.. think id rather fix my doro ammo problems then roll more on elegg tho

[slender mesa]

[velvet fable]

Srosanna redemption arc

[slender mesa]

oh wait maybe should redo first one

[livid relic]

my doro hella bricked

[vapid fable]

That only means something

Your Doro brick

[slender mesa]

she is shit build

why would i invest heavy

[livid relic]

got 0 rocks today

[slender mesa]

when she is only going to pref a little better ?

[stoic quarry]

Lol how often does she reload in FB

[livid relic]

1-2 times

first fb she reloads twice with no interference

other times its usually once

[stoic quarry]

Ouch

[vapid fable]

Hmm

[slender mesa]

[vapid fable]

Well she is invest dependent

[slender mesa]

check that dmg helm ===== midoro

[livid relic]

idk my doro is straight ass and compared to my “maxed” rapi she does 50%

so she should be pretty great if she’s actually invested

[slender mesa]

no resourcees to invest

[clever jetty]

This is my dorothy

10/7/10

is a bad build lol

[vapid fable]

Not even maxed

[slender mesa]

need more ammo

and ele

[vapid fable]

Nah ERROR

Ur problem is

Ur Helm and XLud are too strong

Just use them instead

[slender mesa]

[clever jetty]

i know, i didnt invest in her a lot

i use it for elegg

[stoic quarry]

These doros maybe me feel better about mine

[slender mesa]

fking got baited into investing in midoro costed me 20 rocks

[livid relic]

10/10/10 rapi and 10/10/9 doro

fire weak for rapi and water weak for doro
core 2 rapi lb 0 doro

[vapid fable]

No, u shud def invest in her but u invested in Helm and XLud instead

[clever jetty]

This is my helm

[vapid fable]

Doro may have higher peak. But ur Helm and XLud too strong. Beating their peak is harder.

Might as well give up

[storm imp]

wtf you're dealing 9b on the fire team at 401

[vapid fable]

I didnt know ur Helm and XLud are Core 7 120% ELE, 45% ATK, 300% AMMO.

[slender mesa]

ofc coz they are old invest, midoro is new, if i invest more in s.egg team dmg will go up.
if i invest in midoro rn then i will see no improvement

[storm imp]

w mihara dealing piss vs rapi

[livid relic]

my rapi is one of the best

[stoic quarry]

Hsi rapi is disgustingly good tbh

[vapid fable]

But theres a good point in ur damage chart. Helm XLud Selegg may actually beat Doro comp.

[livid relic]

mihara

but yeah i’ve spent maybe 300-400 rocks on rapi

she’s done for now tho

[vapid fable]

300-400

[storm imp]

"for now" and spent 300+

[livid relic]

80 were to get max ammo on helmet line 1

[storm imp]

my rapi is still 1 ammo

[livid relic]

i mean id want her to get 100+ ele

[storm imp]

[livid relic]

but id rather save rocks to funnel into 3rd anni unit

my rapi has infinite ammo with siren lmao

[shell sun]

very nice. 92% ele xlud beating 18% soro

[livid relic]

im just gonna get doro to have 1 ammo and ideally keep the 4x attack

so like

4x attack 2x ele 1x ammo

then im saving for 3rd anni

[vapid fable]

Dont be ammo syndrome sufferer

[livid relic]

even with no ammo she reloads once per fb usually

with no manual reloading

if I get 1 its always gonna be 1 reload

so ill sleep

ill go back to invest to her after 3rd anni unit gets invested into

they gotta be rapi tier for me to dedicate that much to a unit again

[storm imp]

ammo shilling?

[livid relic]

tho the need for ammo is not gonna be nearly as much

[storm imp]

naw ik

[livid relic]

unless its another mg

so i’ll save over 100 rocks

probably

[storm imp]

isn't that 3x60?

[livid relic]

tbf 180% ammo is a breakpoint

[storm imp]

yep

[cerulean python]

Is elegg the goat

[stoic quarry]

I just equipped Resilience cube and accepted i will need to reload once @eternal breach

[livid relic]

but if you get one 60% ammo she always reloads once with bastion

so its fine

[hexed spire]

we're on our way to anniversary 3.0 if we overinvest then we can skill reset back down it's np

[storm imp]

idk where 180% specifically came from w elegg
ik you want a fair bit to get as many procs in as you can per fb window, but if you have no dmg base w no ed/atk, that's not going anywhere

[shell sun]

u cannot reset rocks

[livid relic]

that’s why i only on average spend 50 rocks on META units

otherwise i 4-10 rock and call it a day

[stoic quarry]

Anis + hansel/gretel prob the anniversary char.. so one support one dps like last year most likely

[storm imp]

miss having rocks
my elegg is super dumpster too

[slender mesa]

what to do with this doro?

[livid relic]

bro let them hear my cook of hansel gretel electric water in one unit

im gonna 4 rock elegg when I get her and call it a day

[cloud lark]

Eleg is fine with no dupes or nah?

[storm imp]

hopefully if there's a collab in sept, it SUCKS

[shell sun]

yeah. kick her to team 5 with shotgun team ez

[stoic quarry]

I am just waiting for hansel and gretel to break the game in some way lol

[livid relic]

im still gonna get fucked with pulling one copy of each… my banner pulls have been so ass

but if they suck at least no rocks wasted

[slender mesa]

no place for her in my water team ig

[slim raft]

every char is fine with no dupes. Always up to you if you want more.

[stoic quarry]

Another collab wtf

[livid relic]

bruh feel bad for light spenders or f2p

[stoic quarry]

Eva 3.0

[livid relic]

ive spent 2 pities the last month cause I didnt get eve or doro

[shell sun]

who doesn't want this?

[livid relic]

[hexed spire]

someone turn boom back on

[shell sun]

i need to do 282 more pulls so i can get enough mileages for anni. a collab is welcome but i dont think there will be any

[stoic quarry]

Her skill 2 spam is funny once she gets going

[storm imp]

might still be one, i'm not counting nier rerun as a collab, and sb was early enough for there to be a 3rd in where it usually lands: sept

[surreal roost]

Fuck Elegg
Drain all my ticket and crystal, only to get her in last single

[shell sun]

Being consistent is not what I expect from SU

[stoic quarry]

Crazy anni is not even really that far away.. like 3 months to build up all the gold tickets spent on

If they chuck in a 1% Christmas banner its RIP

[storm imp]

w the extra limiteds and 1%s, i don't put it past them

[crystal bane]

what? she doesn't need 10/10/10 and is cheap?

who the fuck put her on a diet

[wise light]

I don’t have atk arms for her

kill myself

[carmine stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008297576698744833/1364070165355958272/hoshino.mp4

[wise light]

Thank you hoshino

[hearty gazelle]

[velvet fable]

Please add gluttony testing already

Lil bro stop jumping

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1161423037267197972/1397705983869845625/PsTn5dz.png?ex=6882b2a2&is=68816122&hm=280ac4aee4644a103a3679d5ffeb47e57f405f6b69bb0199d42a8721a2b2e1be&

[shell sun]

From level 7 to lv10 increases 2% atk and 5% ele for every water unit in the team.

It is not about her. It is about u. If u compete, u want lv10.

Skill 1 ^

[velvet fable]

Bready beats doro in the maids team even harder than in srosanna but that kills selegg so the team ends up being way worse

[shell sun]

Well i check your role

It says SEA

u do need 101010 then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/450667971543564289.png?v=1

Global can get 3% with just 444

[livid relic]

i dont think elegg skill investment is gonna be the make or break for 3%

everyone should be able to 7/7/7 any unit anyways cause we get enough skill books for that

[shell sun]

I mean it can still up ~200m

Which can/cannot do something

[livid relic]

i mean yeah but i doubt most people who barely 3% are gonna be pushed out by a build elegg or not, cause those people don’t have unit investment elsewhere

[vapid fable]

Sir thats 2 OL lines vs 1

Ammo shilling is important for SG team

[cobalt scaffold]

bro only likes them thick

[edgy jungle]

alright so 1 ghost per 6s

dead ass

[thorny hollow]

How is the egg doing

At least so far

[fossil river]

Straight dead

[spring island]

How is she shooing bullets from a vacuum cleaner

[sacred meteor]

ask soda

[pure cape]

Reverse sucking

[half kelp]

Waiting to see ya grand video on Elegg good sir

[fossil river]

she's good for Water for sure

[half kelp]

Yess. I just like to see ya cook

With new units

[spice holly]

1 and dip?

[ivory axle]

so what's the skill prio?

[quartz harness]

Pins

[cobalt scaffold]

man i like egg

i think they need some other way besides element to make things revelent in their own way

[edgy jungle]

everyone and their mother powercreep xlud

[hushed root]

I kinda like SElegg. She’s boring until 13+ ghosts though. Let the BOOMs rain.

[pallid citrus]

So she's only good for off burst support right

Like her dupes, OL's etc shouldn't matter too much

besides for like super minmax

She'll do less dmg individually than xlud though right?

[edgy jungle]

dmg wise she looks meh

don't even want to math her

[livid relic]

bro these tests dont do anything productive

[edgy jungle]

that's shinono, the brother of kisenix

[livid relic]

wow an uninvested unit doesnt do dmg

who knew

[edgy jungle]

if you see both, just ignore

[livid relic]

crazy

[shell sun]

easy skip ig

[edgy jungle]

dependable, she might work like XMaiden later

in the end, ele supporters are kinda rare

won't hurt 1 copy

[shell sun]

time to save for sneon. i need some banners to convert gems to mileages

[fossil river]

Do you understand what these tests gonna prove ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRDHOgweks

Elegg = XMaiden = Strong for the elemental

Xmaiden > Elegg ( XMaiden can play in neutral )

That's all

[livid relic]

so its lowest clear shenanigans i see

[fossil river]

It's not lowest clear or something

It proves an uninvested unit can help clear S9 AI is good enough

And we can only test in AI cause it's the only content matches SR right now

[livid relic]

uhhh i guess its just that most people are asking for dmg capabilities not support

mb tho

still think that 7/7/7 should be minimum shown for testing cause that’s super easy to hit now

gold books are still painful so i understand not 10/10/10 testing

[fossil river]

TL;DR
If you play Water raids = pull

If you dont play Water raids = skip

Simple

[pallid citrus]

So basically

she's background saver meta so mlb?

[runic zinc]

Other NIKKE: "Who brings a vacuum cleaner to a gun fight?"
Elegg: "So I can suck enemy to death UwU"

[edgy jungle]

Laplace tier on neutral

Good support on water

[hushed root]

Actually, isn’t SElegg totally power creeping SNeon?

[coarse tiger]

Idk, Harvester clear with a 4/4/4 unit seems like good advertisement for Elegg to me

One of the reasons Helm and Marciana were so valuable back in the day was that they basically needed zero investment to do their job

Nikke has been making so many units stat-reliant recently that it really hurts

Basically, dump all rocks into S Doro and use extras for S Elegg is the moral of this story

S Doro needs rolls to perform well, while Elegg can just be skill-loaded

Obviously more investment is good, of course

[hushed root]

To put it in perspective

Naga could've been p5 and be just a healer/repair bot

And, when boss has no core, her offense utility is weak

Now swap that with SElegg

Doesn't have heals/repair, but her offense utility is there. Up to 35% elemental damage to other Water Nikkes without needing to scale off dupes

And shares some of her base ATK stat too

We're willing to stick Naga there. Well, we're also willing to stick SElegg there
Especially when, the lack of heal/repair can be overcome. Particularly if we use Helm as one of the carries

[wise light]

Seggs. Nuff said

I’m just happy elegg isn’t a rock/doll vacuum like Dorothy is being

[velvet fable]

dump it all in Bready

she's cheapo

no ammo because full charge sniper 🚮

[wise light]

Don’t have her

Wishlisted but never shows up, like maid mast

[velvet fable]

Imagine not pulling for lobby meta

[edgy jungle]

[coarse tiger]

Bottom tier lobby meta for me

(Elegg and Bready both)

[velvet fable]

yeah i'm thinking about their bottoms

[sweet ledge]

bottom tier but top tier bottom

[wise light]

elegg lobby surprisingly kinda mid to me, looks too dark

[velvet fable]

the feet aren't detailed enough

[barren wharf]

sooo hows elegg?

pull or skip

[wise light]

this bruh

skip only for you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342948341738115152/1396289610379821229/0phrolova.gif

[barren wharf]

i became f2p just doay my monthlyy pass expired

[wise light]

congrats on not having an extra 10 r pulls/month i guess

[hushed root]

So are you saying.. Trony > SElegg?

[velvet fable]

no because you can't see her fat rolls

[sacred meteor]

anyone tested if balice works with her?

[velvet fable]

no we just gave up insantly

hold on

[velvet fable]

no

we need to beat elegg with hammers

she makes a funny sex noise when she gets hit

[pallid goblet]

So elgg is good for water teams nl

[livid relic]

i mean yeah I just think 7/7/7 and base overload isnt that expensive

[dusk burrow]

So pull 1 or more?

[zinc wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968098119717904433/1220834063401615431/silverwolf_justpull.gif

[livid relic]

one copy

y’all gotta check pins

[slender mesa]

harvester ^

[vapid fable]

So did u use Elegg's Burst

[slender mesa]

nop

should have left her burst on lvl 1

her dmg is inflated anyway with all those mobs

to burst her u need to clear all mobs

the one with s.eggs easier to use and more relexing tho, no need to track burst u can just look and press burst skills

[livid relic]

so she basically performs the same as mast on water team

even with low investment

[slender mesa]

pretty much yes

[velvet fable]

no reload speed so it'll be worse if your ammo rolls are shit

[hushed root]

4 is fine, mats cheap now

[livid relic]

helm ammo doesnt really matter and xlud has max reload half of the time

as long as you reload during her reload speed up you’re fine

so like, 150%? max ammo is probably good enough, maybe even less

[sacred meteor]

so i'm guessing segg isn't worth sr15?

[old thicket]

probably depends on your resources

we got so much more doll mats recently I've noticed people actually bricking their accounts for CA

[wise light]

where are these doll mats

[livid relic]

ive spent doll mats on pvp units prior to this and i still have a surplus

[wise light]

i only had enough to sr15 bay for pp reasons

[livid relic]

should say doll exp but potatoe potato

[old thicket]

I've checked people's comps lately and I'm seeing SR15 centi/trina and shit now

[slender mesa]

casuals like me never going to win ca that way

[hearty gazelle]

wild, people malding for a pvp frame

[wise light]

then don’t go for top 200 sr this time

i saw your edit

[slender mesa]

[livid relic]

im stuck with sync whales so i cant make it to top 10 let alone top 4

like some of the t10 comps are so ass but they’re 100+ levels on me

[slender mesa]

cp deflict so hard u dont need team comp or pvp units

no need to try ig

from what i have seen some pvp main can win like 60-80 sync deflict

[livid relic]

yeah but im not gonna pvp main especially when they just slap regular raid units who will always have more investment

i managed to get diamond 3 pretty consistently after popping core boxes so im fine that im getting 2k every week now

[cobalt scaffold]

BEST LOBBY , MLB now

[hushed root]

She's just sitting there

[frozen jetty]

so what is the final verdict

[hushed root]

Boom

[worn nimbus]

Are we winning chat?

[coarse tiger]

One copy if you care about raids

Otherwise, don't need her

[hexed spire]

if shift up could go back in time they would've somehow made the elemental damage buff scale based off of dupes

[edgy jungle]

why go back in time when they can create it now

should reserve it for fire

[hexed spire]

fire 1% limited scale all buffs based on caster yes please

summer part 2

[hearty gazelle]

I needed her lobby

[wise light]

What we need is more lobby slots bruh

with crown 👑 owning her own permanent slot that brings it down to 4 for others

[barren wharf]

so mlb will be a must?

[velvet fable]

Soon

[barren wharf]

thanks for this

so no pull

[wise light]

This guy asking the same question over and over for days.

I wonder if he’ll ask if elegg is mlb worthy again tomorrow

[velvet fable]

I lost 100k gems to get mlb

I hope she eats all of those gems to get fatter

[wise light]

Imagine bricking your account over elegg

I mean could’ve been sora so

[pallid goblet]

He sigmaed his account forever

[slender mesa]

Losing 100k for a mid supporter, only used on water

[pallid goblet]

Imagine playing this game to score high score on multiplayer mode which only gives one ten pull
Let bro mlb the ceo of sex

At least he didn't mlb sora lmao

[slender mesa]

Let him keep working in the meta slave mines

[coarse tiger]

Always respectable　, but there's a problem if someone needs to ask others for that

[hearty gazelle]

I doubt people asking for that XD

[wise light]

There’s one dude asking every thread if he should mlb or not

He got his answer today

He’ll be back tomorrow again

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

[pallid goblet]

He's stuck in a cycle

[coarse tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-natsuki-subaru-nightmare-gif-2916735356966228386

[covert seal]

Silly question. Elegg is a summer only unit. Right?

[zealous shale]

yes

[barren wharf]

Hi

[wise light]

MLB elegg?

[barren wharf]

Nahhh she no good

[wise light]

Damn thats sad. Guess I won’t pull her then

Or will I

[edgy jungle]

[hushed root]

SElegg not doing well?

Mine’s still T9M 4/4/4 so I wouldn’t know

[barren wharf]

she like xmaiden but for water team

[velvet fable]

selegg good but niche

and she's not the main carry anyway

she does like half to 2/3 of my other b3

with just the one burst

[hushed root]

Wouldn’t it be funny if Water became the “1 raid in a year” victim after the current Solo Raid

This makes building up SElegg a lot an extremely risky proposition

[barren wharf]

hasent there been a solo raid for water before this summer yet?

[velvet fable]

egg has some attack share so if doroturns out to be strong enough to be played in neutral egg might be able to come along for a cope team?

[edgy jungle]

nope

[zealous shale]

neutral elegg sounds super cope

[hexed spire]

cope would make it sound like there's hope

she's an ele% buffer

[storm imp]

b-bro that 15% atk buff i-it's gonna help

[zealous shale]

may as well add noir and hope that works instead

[velvet fable]

i am coping

maybe you have an open team slot with sdoroo and don't want to give her a generic buffer?

but then you'd have to bring another water dps on water and that's not as easy to justify

sros bready sdoro selegg + filler b1 for team 5 on neutral

it's probably not good but it doesn't take any of the units you'd want to use for your real teams

[zealous shale]

if im only using doro

why not drake

63 atk + 50% ammo > 15% casters atk

and just run sg team

[velvet fable]

because i don't have a built sg team

[zealous shale]

if ur running sros anyways

i dont think bready will be neutral

just run raven mihara(offburst)

and then u find out doro doesnt really fit there

so u move doro elsewhere

[storm imp]

what's holding you back from building sg

[velvet fable]

treasureless tove

and then i spent all my rocks building all the water units

they should release slop for the next few months so i can go back to 300 rocks

[zealous shale]

u dont ned treasure just mald it

it still works

treasure better ofc

[velvet fable]

💀

[zealous shale]

inb4 all seasonal rerun -> 4th collab of the year -> ani -> xmas

[velvet fable]

collab is easy skip so they should do more collabs

[zealous shale]

collabs have been meta

eva2,raven

[velvet fable]

yes but i play the game for the characters in the game

not some randos

so i don't build them

maybe they get the bare minimum if it's someone super important like wasuka because the absolute state of wind dps

[zealous shale]

But then u can just drop meta since ur already far behind and run elegg neutral

[velvet fable]

my bready elegg neutral team is gonna go hard and you're all gonna be sorry

[slender mesa]

pro tip, just disable effects so u dont see the tove buff count

[storm imp]

tove treasureless is such a nonissue though

take sdoro wow she murdered mpriv on electric

[hexed spire]

they should make a neutral raid once

see it as a sixth element

just a fuck you to ele%

[zealous shale]

Ele% is how they make us pull 5x the units

Classic gacha

[velvet fable]

add a mode that disables your overloads

so you have to pull all the new units with elemental damage buffs

[hushed root]

SElegg is basically worse than Noir vs neutral

Or at best comparable. And Noir at least enables Blanc

One thing you must remember, is that the atk buff Summer Elegg gives, is limited to Water code units

While, Noir will buff any element

[slender mesa]

Bru stop the

I think u addicted

[wise light]

Bru spent 100k on elegg

So he’s a bit copey

[hearty gazelle]

I'm spending time of my life in this game, I think it worse than money

[desert turret]

why i read it as seggg

[velvet fable]

Seggs

[dusky plinth]

selegg 10/4/4 or 10/7/4

idk if I want to put too much invest into a water-only buffer

may even just go 7/4/1....

[hushed root]

I kinda like her in spite of my rational mind

[velvet fable]

she's a very good water support

you can probably cope with more generic supports or someone who doesn't benefit from gear so you don't have to spend rocks

but selegg is premium pork

[dusky plinth]

I think going 7/4/4 will be a good start

and then I go from there if I need more buffing

I need to build 3 other characters first XD

[dusky plinth]

I'm cooked in this SR anyway, getting high invest won't matter when none of my water dps are good

honestly might've just gotten selegg purely for collection purposes and I'm not gonna build her

[granite gull]

is it worth mileaging her? i have sdoro quency and bready

[dusky plinth]

only if you really care about water-weak SR/UR

[hushed root]

I'd say she's not worth gold mileage. If you can hold on for a year, she'll be back next year for you to pull for collection purposes

Even her placement in current Solo Raid isn't essential. You could literally delete her and every high ranker's Solo Raid teams will be fine. She isn't deployed as the only water unit of any of their teams, so with her gone there's still another water carry to handle elemental QTEs or deal strong element damage with

So gold mileaging that, is bound to leave you with great regret

[dusky plinth]

water is such a sad element :C

[velvet fable]

water is so bad i actually want to brick my helm

[crimson pawn]

i will cement helm

[velvet fable]

i gave her real overloads so she can be dps but now my auto kraken team is bricked because the timings are different

and it dies to the qte half the time

[hushed root]

Faster to manual to stage 7 then pause and press quit

[velvet fable]

i don't want to have to play the game

[edgy jungle]

[vernal ivy]

So glad I finally pulled her

Too bad I spent all my special pulls and gems getting mlb on Dorothy to do more though

1% banners are tough

Reading the pins it seems she will pair well with sdoro as an off burst though?

Little confused on the reason to make sure she gets one burst at the end though

[velvet fable]

Bro mlbed doro

[velvet fable]

it's 10400% damage with some attack self buff

[vernal ivy]

Oh snap

Ooook I see

So it’s like a last hurrah “Take this “ kinda burst after building up the ghosts

[soft abyss]

Right peeps, for her should i try pulling or use golden tickets?

[vernal ivy]

Thus why it’s important to final burst with her at the end

[livid relic]

shes not good enough to ticket

[vernal ivy]

Summer Doro, beastly and amazing background screenie.