[Elegg: Boom and Shock] New Unit Megathread

[viscid raven]

im pulling both, but i aint tryhard

[hexed spire]

the water skip is probably dead by now considering how much we got of it

[outer creek]

Le egg off burst?

[quick lantern]

Seggs

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMjZzNXoxbWx1cnI3bXVsYnYyNWtmYWY4ODE0NmszM3o5ajl5OXZtNSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/UPs2A2XxyNJKm8lezn/giphy.gif

[outer creek]

How does she works anyways?

What i think is you can get the ghost really fast

With 200 ammo/s team

But 2200% atk damage/ s is a bit better too much?

[quick lantern]

6s cooldown per ghost stack

[velvet fable]

It's probably capped

But on the other hand why would they make a hit counter for something like this?

You have to try to fail hitting something 100 times in 6s

[outer creek]

That's boring

Also takes 45s to get 9 stacks back in that case

[velvet fable]

It's like xmaiden but even more scuffed

[outer creek]

Wierd how they made her

[velvet fable]

Which is why some people are coping that it's not limited to one ghost per 6s

[quick lantern]

for now everyone thinking watuh xMaiden 12 MP & 2+1 MP playstyle, basically one max ghosts burst & one non-max ghost burst.

[shell sun]

huh

i think u can reach max ghost twice

[outer creek]

There's no point doing the non max burst

[shell sun]

depends on the other dps. if the non max burst happens last 5 seconds. i would

[outer creek]

Scuffed

[shell sun]

yup

13x6 + 9x6 for twice max stack bursts

u dont get to burst right at the second u reach the stack

[velvet fable]

Inb4 ghost mark takes 6 seconds to spawn after starting the stage

[outer creek]

Doesnt matter

[velvet fable]

I want to cope that you get multiple ghosts per mark but the overflow damage is too big for that

Maybe there's a limit to ghosts per mark that's higher than 1?

[shell sun]

crown siren b3 helm s-egg

[hexed spire]

is a captured ghost considered a self buff? balice could increase it

[velvet fable]

Hopium?

[shell sun]

u dont run re-enter b1 with her

u dont want to burst with her early

so it forces 3x b3

that is what i think

[outer creek]

Doubt it

[velvet fable]

My egg

I was going to mlb her the second she comes out

But I hate xmaiden gameplay

[shell sun]

it allows simple gameplay

[velvet fable]

That just means you never burst

Which lets you use helm as burst instead of off burst buffer?

[shell sun]

maiden does burst, so yeah, diff gameplay

[velvet fable]

So that's cool because the absolute state of water

Every normal team runs off burst helm

[shell sun]

there are a lot good water now

[outer creek]

Maybe just burst once at first 13 stacks and leave it till the last burst for another 13 stacks

[velvet fable]

That's probably the best way to do it

[shell sun]

hmmm worth testing

[velvet fable]

But it's too hard

[outer creek]

It's not really hard...

[velvet fable]

Generally you probably want to burst with her twice per run

It's like xmaiden but you get a whole extra burst

[outer creek]

Xmaiden burst twice too

[velvet fable]

[outer creek]

[quick lantern]

just burst gen faster

[outer creek]

No?

[quick lantern]

ye, electric team can do 14 fb rotation

[shell sun]

xmaiden stack is affected by burst gen
s-egg is just time-based

[outer creek]

Yea

[velvet fable]

I don't want to have to redo my helm overloads

She has garbo rolls because I usually run her off burst

[outer creek]

Hehe
Im not using xmaiden anymore

Dont have plan to pull elegg either

Or doro

Or buy rapi skin

[velvet fable]

Xmaiden suck

[quasi merlin]

req 100 hit kinda useless if its 1 stack every 6s... elegg can do it alone

[outer creek]

Or play the game

[velvet fable]

Return to anis

[quick lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-blue-sechi-shimoe-koharu-chibi-gif-12057151368068514290

[velvet fable]

Yeah it's weird

[shell sun]

u skip segg?

[outer creek]

Skip

[shell sun]

no longer horn

good

[quick lantern]

bro just enjoys doing math porn instead

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMjZzNXoxbWx1cnI3bXVsYnYyNWtmYWY4ODE0NmszM3o5ajl5OXZtNSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/UPs2A2XxyNJKm8lezn/giphy.gif

[velvet fable]

100 hit count basically requires full screen QTE to fail and then people will get mad because it could just passively generate a ghost every 6s and do the same

[shell sun]

100 hit count basically requires MG to do full screen QTE instead of sniper

[velvet fable]

I guess hit count is there to prevent her from being playable in campaign?

Or whatever mob stages

[outer creek]

It's fine to skip out 1 or 2 ghost per boss

Which is nice

[velvet fable]

Overflow damage would be pretty good cleave

[hexed spire]

it takes a campaign timer for her to ramp up

[outer creek]

1100% damage is pretty good for campaign if not for requiring 78s to stack up

[velvet fable]

Idk

Shift up beyond comprehension

[outer creek]

Ur beyond dead by that time

[velvet fable]

Get them out of the kitchen

The food fucking sucks

[shell sun]

yeah campaign dont last 3 min normally

[hexed spire]

she looks like a perma slot in for water niche raids that's more than we got from a few other summer nikke

[shell sun]

but campaign boss has low HP. XMaiden can nuke Stomb with 6 stacks

[quasi merlin]

still get 1 copy cuz her burst look good, better than soro ass

[hexed spire]

if you want to see her burst you gotta mlb for lobby

[shell sun]

wdym. she is top wator

[quick lantern]

bish can't still moved on from her dead gf

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-meme-smack-hit-gif-14682331153624420698

[quasi merlin]

she worth 1 copy then

[shell sun]

she needs to get laid by shikikan to move on

[hexed spire]

no time like summer

[shell sun]

u pull every trash so yes

i need gold mileages

so maybe i will mlb

[quasi merlin]

gonna spend 10 multi on soro banner to get extra 10 tix again

[hexed spire]

i can see the future

seleggs ghost capture is a self buff and poli treasure gives +1 to self buffs for water nikke as well as 20 cd b2

[zinc wasp]

is she just better as off-burst to abuse skill 2 trigger? can u calc that

[outer creek]

Sec

I mean ye the calc is really simple

And it's a very small gain
So just let it flow till the very last burst

And get that 800x13

[hearty gazelle]

where excel

[quick lantern]

aye, will prob still test different Seggs burst timing, atleast to see the diff

[hearty gazelle]

[quick lantern]

too bad no Watuh Cindy

[outer creek]

Napkin suffices

[hearty gazelle]

next time bro gonna write in a rock

[shell sun]

we got watuh s.anis and watuh xmaiden. watuh cindy soon

[velvet fable]

Doro is watuh cindy

[zinc wasp]

isn't that still worth to run off-burst and use a better burster?

[outer creek]

That's what im saying

[zinc wasp]

ohh

[outer creek]

.

[zinc wasp]

ah that's what that means

yea

WaterMaiden

[fleet torrent]

What the hell man

This is good

This is actually insane

Are they crazy

Limited units

[fleet torrent]

Is 1300 times in first 6 second possible

[zinc wasp]

she gets the xMaiden treatment

[zinc wasp]

you mean 13 times? no

[fleet torrent]

13 × 100 bullets

[zinc wasp]

cooldown between ghosts (stacks) is 6s

[fleet torrent]

Ohhh

So like

[zinc wasp]

with 4 MG you could hit that but the ghost cooldown doesnt allow it

[fleet torrent]

I see

Sorry I didn't see the recurring interval

[zinc wasp]

[fleet torrent]

When is maint?

[fleet torrent]

That's great actually

[viscid raven]

ty

[fleet torrent]

6 × 13 = 78 seconds

Do we burst with Elegg twice then?

[outer creek]

nah just once imo

[hallow bough]

yea i doubt thats worth losing the aoe proc for 54 sec

[wise light]

She's xmaiden water tits version

[hallow bough]

hmm wait it barely is isnt it

till u count the loss of not using the other nikkes burst so prob not worth

day 841285 of waiting for a real main damage water B3

[velvet fable]

Bro your Bready?

[hexed spire]

if it doesn't powercreep rapi

it isn't real

[viscid raven]

[hazy swift]

Maiden: ICE rose = electric
Elegg: Boom and SHOCK = water

[wise light]

which element will get the next maiden

[viscid raven]

im gonna guess iron

[velvet fable]

No generic buffers in slot 5 allowed

[brittle lodge]

Yellow color, boom and shock, and she’s… water???

[velvet fable]

She pissed in the pool

[coarse tiger]

Not even cope when it's literally written

Full on delusional

[velvet fable]

Let me dream

Okay but for real

Elegg would.

Call her elegg yellow ocean

[crystal bane]

SEGS

[viscid raven]

[vapid fable]

Oh shes out

XMaiden but water lmao

[quick lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267535702854340699/1318583254667886702/gato_agua.gif

[vapid fable]

XMaiden still stronger tbf

At least with Elegg u can burst every 13 * 6 seconds

Twice

[sacred meteor]

xmaiden has the advantage of not needing 12/12 lines. elegg needs 12/12.

we don't have sanis equivalent of reload speed buffer for water yet

[lime relic]

Is the ghostbuster still winning?

[sweet ledge]

12/12? in this economy ??

[vapid fable]

No she doesnt

She needs nothing

@zealous shale is she better bursting 2x or just holding ghosts

Hmm 1100% is higher than 800%

[sweet ledge]

??

[old thicket]

raon answered the question just above

[sweet ledge]

basically hold for s2 procs and only burst with her at last rotation

[lime relic]

XMaiden but egg shaped

[viscid raven]

🥚

[lime relic]

Is that what I’m reading here?

[old thicket]

yes

xmaiden but seggs

[crystal bane]

the profound sadness

xmaiden is chunkier than seggs

fire the prompter for this one

[slender mesa]

where are the meth guys??

i dont see any numbers

[old thicket]

raon did napkin meth wdym

[slender mesa]

[old thicket]

[slender mesa]

how much % of helm?

[old thicket]

don't think any comparison has been done yet

[slender mesa]

[old thicket]

but consider her almost the same as xmaiden

off burst until the very end

[slender mesa]

yea i read that

but i need to know if she is even worth using over something like: liter - crown - helm - qeq - xlud

or liter - crown - helm - xlud- naga

[coarse tiger]

For water raid you wouldn't use that comp anyway

[slender mesa]

im talking about UR...

[coarse tiger]

Ahh

[slender mesa]

water sr is a shit show

[old thicket]

I think it boils down to your own investments in each of those units honestly

[slender mesa]

[coarse tiger]

Seamaids + Quency/Bready, Crown/X Lud/X Guillo/S Elegg

[old thicket]

like if you have a really strong QEQ you're gonna use her

[coarse tiger]

Two teams

[old thicket]

for someone else that may not have invested/got shit OL then they won't use her

[coarse tiger]

Ah wait, Helm instead of X Guillo, derp

[old thicket]

Bready is technically the strongest water DPS currently but she requires sus buffer which you may or may not have

[slender mesa]

i have helm/xlud both 90+ ele

so this unit is trash/mid?

[old thicket]

I won't say trash but pretty much in line with current water dps

[slender mesa]

izi skip ig

[old thicket]

that goes for too

[coarse tiger]

Deals more damage overall if off-burst is key

[old thicket]

unless tove stonks

[coarse tiger]

Doro is hard meta for water-weak SR, but otherwise , just like all SGs

S Elegg seems like better X Guillo

but doesn't want to burst

[sweet ledge]

better x guillo isn't a good indication either

[fleet torrent]

I dont like elegg kit

i was hoping for mid

[old thicket]

she is for sure better than xguill

[slender mesa]

the thing is water is missing like a rapi lvl dps, if they do release one on 3rd anni then investment in seggs is kinda wasted...

[fleet torrent]

but they just gave us an off burst water unit

[coarse tiger]

No, that makes her more stonks

[slender mesa]

[coarse tiger]

The reason X Maiden is used is because Cindy exists

[fleet torrent]

no?

[old thicket]

you were hoping for another sneon?

[slender mesa]

so she powercreep xlud as off burst in water?

[fleet torrent]

she is used because she can be used as an off burst

[coarse tiger]

Both

[fleet torrent]

well i mean in terms of meta, sure

but overall in that team, if no cindy then xmaiden fits in just as well

cuz theres like

[coarse tiger]

S Anis is the better off-burst

[fleet torrent]

ein

[coarse tiger]

[fleet torrent]

[coarse tiger]

Just happens S Anis also good bursting

Ein is used with Exia + CDR

No room for off-burst

[zealous shale]

we used xmaiden in OC for example

she was also really good cheesing some stages

[slender mesa]

dude OC

once in a life time

pls

[zealous shale]

how much electric content do i get? OC, campaign SR where elsedo i use her

[fleet torrent]

tbh elec and water content is the most common so

[zealous shale]

and used in every one

[fleet torrent]

will u mlb anyone of them

[zealous shale]

no

[fleet torrent]

one copy for me too ig

[zealous shale]

elegg maybe 1 copy, doro 1 copy

[fleet torrent]

elegg feels like mustbuild

[fossil river]

Doro > Elegg

[hexed spire]

both look perma slots for water weak raids

will any of them see use outside of it? maybe doro

[wild sonnet]

which one looks stronger?

[zealous shale]

.

[hexed spire]

doro looks like she can be used in shotgun off element

[zealous shale]

i mean at worst we drop phantom

[crystal bane]

replace who
alien soda?

[fleet torrent]

but isnt elegg off burst

doesnt that make her easier to use

[slender mesa]

how can you drop if it alrdy on the ground?

[fleet torrent]

in terms of UR

[fossil river]

yeah she's off burst

[fossil river]

she's just an upgrade of XGuillo

[zealous shale]

do u put her in team 3?

[fleet torrent]

wait thats from last raid?

[fossil river]

I guess you can do last Elegg burst on team 1

[zealous shale]

thats snake

[fossil river]

14 bursts

Siren HelmT

[zealous shale]

goodbye viper

[fleet torrent]

i mean

[hexed spire]

goodbye sbs

[fleet torrent]

sbs and alice are dead now

[fossil river]

Siren Crown XLud Elegg HelmT

[zealous shale]

[fossil river]

Viper goes to DoT team

[zealous shale]

that works

[fossil river]

Liter SRos Viper Bready Mihara

[wild sonnet]

M-Mast?

[fossil river]

Mast goes to dis team

Water is so fucking expensive right now

They're strong but niche at the same time

[fleet torrent]

oh so

that sbs alice is probably being replaced by tove doro now, isee

[lime relic]

[slender mesa]

how tf do u guys build 2nd and 3rd tier units?

[fossil river]

+1 Elegg

[zealous shale]

old accounts have resources packed up

[fossil river]

Elegg burst last as 14th burst

[zealous shale]

esp spenders who bought skill books

[zealous shale]

doesnt elegg get 2 bursts?

[slender mesa]

but with build as in rocks/OL

[zealous shale]

i dont 12/12 things i just 8/12 things

[fossil river]

you can do that ?

[slender mesa]

[zealous shale]

u get 1 ghost per 6s right

[fossil river]

well bursts at max stack still give you ele up, i guess it can work

so you burst at XLud cycle

[old thicket]

just be born lucky

[zealous shale]

thats 78s

[hexed spire]

should start with 1

[zealous shale]

so u get 2.3 total

[fleet torrent]

• siren crown helm xlud segg
• rrh maids qeq phantom
• liter viper bready xguilo/mihara srosa
• cindy rouge s.anis mari xmaiden
• tove b2 doro soda/drake flex

[zealous shale]

ya but ur never getting 3 from .3

i think

so u just get some extra buff time with that last bit?

wait its -9 2nd time

[hexed spire]

you will burst twice in 1 fight total i think

[zealous shale]

78-6+54+54 = 180

i think ur just short

at the end

[old thicket]

tbf I'm not gonna be investing deeply into these 2 either because I went all in on raven and have currently 9 rocks

[hexed spire]

is your raven lookin fly at least

[slender mesa]

4 more than me

[old thicket]

raven is my strongest unit now

[zealous shale]

but yea 2-3 bursts expected i think

[slender mesa]

ol?

[old thicket]

over 100 ele and over 45 atk

[slender mesa]

how much rock that took?

[old thicket]

I never keep track of that ngl I just chuck rocks until I get lucky which happened in this case but uhhh........ roughly.... 80~? if I had to guesstimate

[lime relic]

🔎

[zealous shale]

i wonder if viper team 1 is still better and u just drop elegg down

[slender mesa]

lucky dog

[lime relic]

Doesn’t count rocks, they just like me fr fr

[slender mesa]

[zealous shale]

since idgaf about mihara burst that much in that team tbh

[fleet torrent]

egg gives ele buff

bready wont be that good on crack

[zealous shale]

oh shes a buffer

[fleet torrent]

did u read kit

it feels storng

stronk

[old thicket]

I mean viper can easily go into sus comp right

[zealous shale]

ya i guess im pulling a copy

[zealous shale]

but the crown dipping

[fossil river]

i wonder if Doro Priv + 3 better than mono electric

[zealous shale]

and elegg doesnt get crown dip much

since no burst

[fossil river]

i dont value Viper Crown that much tbh

[slender mesa]

u need core 7 for that atk buff based caster atk tho

[old thicket]

it's okay you get viper and srosanna cat fighting instead

[slender mesa]

[fossil river]

Last raid Viper Crown even lost to no Crown Mod

Ofcourse with low ele

[zealous shale]

i dont even have viper treasured

iirc i just put rh b1 there

[hexed spire]

same and looking back at it i should've done it

she would've been useful

[fossil river]

if this Kraken still have core, i guess Alice SBS Doro Priv may has a chance

Bench mono elec

[old thicket]

meanwhile my black snake viper run

[zealous shale]

gib doll mats

[fossil river]

also I was thinking about

Like

Staying at Viper phase 2

[old thicket]

I need them for poli/bay

[fossil river]

You give up 44% dot dmg buff

to be more flexible

[old thicket]

but she lacks DPS at phase 2

[zealous shale]

dont u give up

ur reenter burst?

[fossil river]

yeah

[zealous shale]

which is the main reason shes there

[fossil river]

you give up these

few last raid I was thinking about this

But my acc doesnt have Viper treasure

and accounts I play alr phase 3

[zealous shale]

but without re-enter

how do u fit

[fossil river]

without reenter you can fit her in SG comp

[zealous shale]

and b2 her?

i geuss that works cuz our b2s are like bunny/tia naga atm

but it wont fit crown/dot team anymore right

[fossil river]

yeah

that was my idea

before DoT team becomes a thing

Now we have a DoT team on every elemental

execpt Electric

[zealous shale]

i think tiga maybe wins this time tho

if kraken core

for doro

[fossil river]

i guess wait for treasure data

[zealous shale]

maybe they remove core tho

[fossil river]

mt in 1h15m ?

[zealous shale]

fk is it

i gotta do my pvps

[fossil river]

22:00 GMT 7+

[old thicket]

it's tonight/morning for you

[fossil river]

23:00 KR time

[fossil river]

yeah

also comps maybe like this

[old thicket]

yeah I could see that

[old thicket]

maybe drake out for doro and tiga if core though

[zealous shale]

surely with a mg

and a sg that gives hitrate

we have core right

SURELY

[fossil river]

Drake is too big to be benched

and 100% they wont make a core like og Kraken

in Providence they made core cause it's a special thing for Iron

[zealous shale]

theres no way with a mg and a hitrate sg tho right

why else do we have hitrate

[fossil river]

Every SG DPSs now need hit rate

[zealous shale]

i feel the same about people coping tove gets cdr, reading doro kit i dont think its a cdr angle

[fossil river]

yeah

it's 15 sec buffs

[zealous shale]

15s buff, full burst buff

[fossil river]

also DrakeT came only 6 months

[zealous shale]

screams to me "no cdr"

[fossil river]

They wont do such a benching Drake angle

Tove Doro BSoda

These 3 are imreplacable

[zealous shale]

what if the real play is u take leona

with 4 ele

[fossil river]

I can work

[zealous shale]

[fossil river]

But if so then Tove must have heal

Leona is Water too

[zealous shale]

ya

[fossil river]

My weak ass Leona dealt like 500 mil on LE

[hexed spire]

we wait for tove and poli treasures to give us answers where we stand

[zealous shale]

idk if ill have mats to get 2 treasures

[hexed spire]

i can manage stage 2 2x not stage 3

[fossil river]

Depend

[zealous shale]

ya i can do 2x stage 2 i think

[fossil river]

If Poli is a p3 angle, we can rush her

and leave Tove at p2

[zealous shale]

maybe 1x stage 3 1x stage 2

[fossil river]

mald like before

[zealous shale]

is possible

cuz we still have a few days after maint

[fossil river]

we still have like

[zealous shale]

• SR gives mats

[fossil river]

7 days for mats before 1st day of SR

7x3 = 21

• SR mats

• 6 days until last days = 18 mats

at least you will have 21+ 18 before last day

then, 3 days SR mats drop

plus random boxes

and Drake mats from pass

[old fractal]

Has someone made the math of 2 burst vs no burst vs 1 burst at the end?

[coarse tiger]

I'm a ratio 25 casual

They need to give real rewards if I'm to push any higher

[zealous shale]

rewarded

perminant mark on acc

[coarse tiger]

Oh, infinite isn't red

[old thicket]

where's that copy pasta for oc you have kos

[coarse tiger]

Wish I'd known

I intentionally didn't do 50 cuz I hate red

[zealous shale]

the one that got me demoted?

[old thicket]

yes

[zealous shale]

Hey Commander, just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (SIM ROOM OVERCLOCK INFINITE was harder last week) on the SIM ROOM OVERCLOCK INFINITE(it was harder last rotation) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (SIM ROOM OVERCLOCK INFINITE was harder) at it, and I'm happy that you've (used sniper rifle required constraint that wasnt available last week) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (SIM ROOM OVERCLOCK INFINITE will be even harder) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (used sniper rifle required constraint that wasn't available last week) your nikkes stuck (SIM ROOM OVERCLOCK INFINITE was harder)together through them all, and you were rewarded for your patience and (sr required constraint was much easier than mg) tenacity. Congratulations (sniper rifle required constraint that wasnt available last week) once again, and here's to more success in your future (SIM ROOM OVERCLOCK INFINITE was harder) endeavors!!!

[stoic quarry]

Hopefully these are good enough they push Viper out of water raid.. not investing weapon mats in her

[old thicket]

she's not being pushed out

that fact bready exists and wants sus buffers

and that viper treasure is a sus dps

yeah........

[old fractal]

Why people still think viper is shit when her team has been the highest damage these past 2 water weak raids

Yeah it is thanks to xlud and helmT but no other team that replaces her came even close

[zealous shale]

cuz i dont have mats to build her

and a mid viper i dont think is a huge increase over my rh b1

[stoic quarry]

She's not shit i just don't have much tetra attacker gear (especially with anis coming) and don't want to use weapon mats

[old thicket]

honestly with water raids it's pretty much a choose and pick your DPS or luck dependent

cause most people don't have phantom invested but she's used for water raid if we had unlimited resources

same could be said for xguillotine and viper in this very case

[crystal bane]

the problem with water raids is that since their units are so shit (comparatively)
it's not satisfying to dump resources into them

[old thicket]

yeah that's why I mention the luck dependency

if you threw 4 rocks and got 3/4 ele off the bat you're insane not to use them

and at the same time if you get 0/1 ele you're likely never looking at them again unless you really wanted to invest into them

[coarse tiger]

Last raid*

Oh wait, they didn't use Viper

Yeah, highest parse was still Viper

She takes advantage of Crown so well

That's where Viper's place is weird now

She wants to be with Crown, but also Bready, yet Bready's need for specific buffs makes her hard to use with Crown

she's still the only water unit I haven't built

[quasi merlin]

just need better crust

[coarse tiger]

Auto-capable Crust treasure when?

[zinc wasp]

give us auto QoL to choose if we spam or full charge

[zealous shale]

what raid r u looking at

that is most recent

[coarse tiger]

Yes

Last raid, as in only last raid, not last two

Cuz #1 for the water-weak raid before last (S22) had top damage on seamaids comp

but forgot they didn't use Viper

[main remnant]

viper is the goat

[old fractal]

Graphic design is my passion

[hushed root]

Sorry to maybe ruin your day and criticize your masterpiece, but… are you sure it’s 4 stacks and not 5 stacks for 35% ele?

[old fractal]

Ahh true, it is more than 4 right

Let me correct that

[zealous shale]

can u do a 2nd one that shows max stacks after a burst

[old fractal]

Yeah let me do one where you burst twice

[fossil river]

It's not midnight update @old thicket

Lol

[old thicket]

no it's in 9 hours

and 9mins

[old fractal]

I will do something better once I am home

Can only use the notes app for now

[lime relic]

Bros an artist

[old fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/graphic-design-is-my-passion-designer-terrible-dont-quit-your-day-job-lol-gif-12274412

[coarse tiger]

Wait wut?

Did EN mistranslate?

(again)

[old fractal]

EN says more than 4

[coarse tiger]

JP says 4 or more

[old fractal]

[coarse tiger]

What do they say about the ATK buff?

More than 1?

[old thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[old thicket]

at least 1

[old fractal]

At least 1 yeah

[coarse tiger]

It's the same text in the JP

[old fractal]

[coarse tiger]

"Only when 1 or more ghosts"
"Only when 4 or more ghosts"

Someone in the translation team forgot their 以上・以下 rules

[old fractal]

Guess we will need to wait for in-game testing to be 100% sure

[coarse tiger]

以上 is "X or more"
以下 is "less than X"

And yes, the second kanji in each is an up and down arrow

[hexed spire]

first ghost capture is probably like a second

100 bullets team wide is fast

[old fractal]

Bakayarou

2-3 seconds because of the MG ramp-up

[hexed spire]

what's her expected team

[coarse tiger]

The six seconds recharge is honestly strange

Cuz 100 rounds is insanely easy to get teamwide

[hexed spire]

if it's with an smg like siren it's fast

[coarse tiger]

You have Ade whose abilities are basically useless cuz she's forced to make bullet-count alone with a pathetic AR, and then an MG with team ammo count that's a joke purely limited by skill cd

[hexed spire]

bullet count might as well not exist

is it supposed to limit the team from not using 4x sniper rifle or something

[coarse tiger]

Still wouldn't

MG can do 100 rounds in 6 seconds

[hexed spire]

yes it is strange

[coarse tiger]

Without windup, 100 rounds is less than 2 seconds

[hexed spire]

reduce cd on ghost but increase bullets shot could be more interesting

so she wants to be on a high fire rate team but when she is then she could burst more often

[coarse tiger]

Mhm

Make us work for that max efficiency rather than force us to wait

That's why Siren's a great design

Deals damage no matter what, but the more daka you have, the more she deals

[vale crag]

I think it's fine, she's already restrictive enough with her buffs

this way in a mob scenario instead of almost always having to shoot mobs, you can just shoot mobs for like 1-2 sec then back to boss or other priority targets

[hushed root]

I think it’s just a small game element within the battle. They didn’t want to make it a big deal.

We still have to force our character to shoot the possessed unit if it isn’t the boss, and without Siren that can actually be a conundrum if you didn’t want to shoot it. SElegg without ammo OLs can run out of ammo at a bad moment, and then on finishing reload has to shoot the possessed unit and not the real threat?

So it’s annoying enough Assuming you didn’t just have another MG to swap to.

[coarse tiger]

I can't see using her outside of boss battles, so the mobbing side I didn't even think about

[hexed spire]

she's not a mobbing character for that we use idiotic strong buffers

crown + naga or something ridiculous

[outer creek]

It funny cuz her aoe is very good

But the condition to trigger is anti stalling

And take shit loads to stack up

[zealous shale]

the break in the purple should be atmost 6s right?

since u can burst and pop w/e ghost is alive

at worst u poped one right before burst

and wait 6s

[old fractal]

Yup, it could be almost no down time

Issue is mainly on the burst rotation

Wether you bursted with her just before another ghost popped up

And there would be no down time at all if what Kigitsune pointed out is true, that it only requires at least 4

And not, "more than 4"

[zealous shale]

it was probably chatgpt

[coarse tiger]

Ah yes, the official translator for Crunchyroll

[zealous shale]

chat gpt coming for internkun job

[old fractal]

Google translate

[old thicket]

https://nikke.gg/elegg-boom-and-shock-early-analysis/

[hollow phoenix]

[velvet fable]

wait yeah

why are we bursting with elegg again

sure it's a big nuke but then you don't get s2 so you only get a tiny bit of damage that could have been a real burst instead

except for last burst i guess

[stoic quarry]

Yikes I pulled for xguillotine and never bothered to even jnvest in her.. at least elegg is nicer to look at

[velvet fable]

dps xguillotine

go

[wild sonnet]

i wonder what happened to S-Neon
she was ever used in any raid?

[old thicket]

she was overcooked and burnt from the get-go

[velvet fable]

😭

she is only good for her sexy hand

[old thicket]

hard to justify investment when you know she was garbage from day 1

or in some cases her banner fully skipped

[wild sonnet]

atp it wouldn't be better to put her (S-Neon) in the wishlist banner?
i have a feelng they'll rerun her banner while in a collab/another limited or pilgrim banner

[hexed spire]

there's a cluster of reruns coming in september

including sneon

[wild sonnet]

do we know the upcoming banners that will rerun on september?

[hexed spire]

yes it's the year 1/2 summer/winter ones

maybe not winter year 2 just summer year 2

[rich nebula]

guys question, is it worth spend 400 golden tickets for doro and this new elegg?

[old thicket]

pins

read article

[hexed spire]

don't spend golden ticks on a 2% banner just pull it

[wild sonnet]

Doro?
kinda mediocre for Pilgrim standards
Elegg?
not really worth it

For Doro you need to build a SG team to use her

[hexed spire]

building sg might become mandatory if tove's treasure is broken

[wild sonnet]

for Elegg you need an MG/SMG ammo spam team (Siren, Rapi Red Hood, etc)

[wild sonnet]

so i know now why they made Drake's favorite item an event

[hearty gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252447396278042716/1394901205830074378/elegg_shake.gif

mlb

[rich nebula]

I'm actually broke tbh, just 4k gems cause I spend like 9k getting little mermaid and the rest for mihara bonding chain lol

And I haven't been playing this last while, and I came back only for the 2B re-run and free skins

[wild sonnet]

Summer Elegg isn't a bad nikke, but kinda looks like a bait, mediocre nikke
we're seeing basically what just happened last year with Elegg's base debut.
she came right before a meta unit, an collab, another bait unit and Crown

kinda like Bready too:
an Mediocre Water raid DPS just right before Little Mermaid

i'm afraid of what's possibly coming on September/3 year anniversary

because every year they always release a hot but bad/mediocre unit right before an meta/pilgrim banner

i have 50 pulls atm, i want to get S-Rosanna
don't know if i can get S-Elegg and S-Sakura too

i'll wait for the review in #community-votes to see if i will pull her

i'm wondering how many 💎 and ❌ we'll see in Elegg's review?

probably 1000💎 and 200❌ ?

[hearty gazelle]

saving til next iron raid

[wild sonnet]

i'm the only one that will (probably) skip Summer Elegg?

[vapid fable]

Tsukino got enslaved by Nikke.gg

[hexed spire]

waifu character that's good in water niche

i see 0 reason to skip

[solid island]

hot, limited, good niche, hot > skip

[velvet fable]

bait summer units is tradition

how many good summer units are there

sanis and that's probably because cinderella is so busted

and then what

bait pilgrim is pretty epic tho

[stoic quarry]

I dont even think i used ssakura outside of her raid.. and wind isn't/wasn't exactly stacked with dps

[old thicket]

srosanna is seeing usage again but her dropping off was SU going on some wacky powercreep B2 spree

shelm also still relevant whenever iron weak is concerned

[merry spindle]

She made for very comfy AI Kraken runs until AsukaW.

Wouldn't run out her magazine at annoying times like a certain someone needed for the QTE

[urban maple]

but AI kraken uses neither of them

AI Kraken is helm and SBS with ancha crown and rapi

other you have to.... Ugh, play.

[merry spindle]

oh, you mean auto-Kraken, that's different.

[urban maple]

what's AI kraken then

[merry spindle]

Anomaly Interception...so...in general.

[hollow phoenix]

Anomaly Interception Kraken

[urban maple]

ahh gotcha gotcha

I was interpreting as letting the AI play

[merry spindle]

S.Mary is the summer unit that really got shelved too fast.

Water was weak and there wasn't much water content to begin with. Meta shifted to "do more damage before you get one-shot" instead of needing heals.

She's still good, but B1 had too much competition before she started.

I think I did use her on Black Snake though.

[velvet fable]

smary got saved by bready

[heady wind]

ancha?

[hushed root]

The fact she was a B1 without CDR always made her position shaky

Currently only Tove and Miranda with treasure are secure in such a situation

RIP Exia, RIP Summer Mary, RIP Frima and the true damage dream

[zealous shale]

wasnt that always the meta

[coarse tiger]

She was

She was mandatory for top scores vs Harvester, her feature raid, and had Laplace-levels of use from then on

[stray smelt]

https://fixupx.com/NIKKE_en/status/1945725150801883333

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE (@NIKKE_en)

The skill description has been modified for better understanding.

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FixupX · Jul 17, 2025, 6:00 AM

[vale crag]

? tf got changed

[rough steppe]

[hexed spire]

where is waldo?

*doro

[zinc wasp]

dorothy is the CDDE unit

[rough steppe]

oh right

[zinc wasp]

they uploaded 720p images

wtf

old

new

[old thicket]

they both were intern deleted elegg post to upload the typo fix but somehow didn't notice on doro's

[zinc wasp]

i think he's just stupid

been 2 days

[hearty gazelle]

in my company this means fire people

Imagine being serious in a gacha company

[velvet fable]

It's over

I think they changed the ghost description

To make it more clear that you only get one

[zinc wasp]

nah they only changed the color of ele dmg

everything else is the exact same

[arctic flax]

Stupid question, but who is she made for? Who does she have synergy with?

[zinc wasp]

other MGs she works like xMaiden but for water basically

[velvet fable]

Why would you use other MG with her?

She does not need help hitting 100 hits in 6 seconds

Maybe if you're running siren for eleggs hit count

[arctic flax]

Max stacking ghosts I think?

[velvet fable]

You need 100 hits every 6 seconds

It's not exactly hard

[zinc wasp]

honestly just any water unit because ele buff

that's it

[arctic flax]

Oh, I misunderstood then. I thought ghosts reset after 6 sec. Then ig just to make her burst viable faster? Cant say much without testing

[velvet fable]

More hits shouldn't let her get more ghosts

You can get the ghost slightly faster but you still only get one every 6 seconds

So there's no need to bring any MG you wouldn't otherwise just for that unless the 6 second counter starts after you suck a ghost but that would be horrible

It helps siren though

And she can't run with 2b2 so she probably wants crown helm

[arctic flax]

So water units and a siren. This is going to be interesting

[velvet fable]

You're not running eleggs off element just for siren

[zinc wasp]

eseggs

[arctic flax]

Eggsegg

[quartz harness]

Eggseggs

[viscid raven]

🥚

[old fractal]

Does JP in game still say at least 4 ghosts?

EN keeps saying more than 4

[onyx sentinel]

"10085_1_add_des": "Refers to the interval at which this effect reactivates.",
"10085_2_add_des": "For example, if the recurring interval is 10 seconds, the effect will reactivate every 10 seconds after it is first triggered.",
Elegg skill explained

Go decide

Elegg only get 1 stack every 6s

You have to use BAlice to make 13 stacks quickly

[old fractal]

Considering it is not a "stack" buff (like X.maiden's ) Alice wont increase those stacks

Usually stackable buffs are on the right side of the unit

X.maiden's and S.Elegg's are on the left

[vapid fable]

BAlice doesn't increase stack on Elegg

[coarse tiger]

Not sure about EN, but JP had a poorly worded line

[coarse tiger]

No change there

[zealous shale]

Learned lessions from the flora cope

We wouldn't have known if it didn't happen

[velvet fable]

What's the point of making a character that increases buff stacks when half the buffs don't work with it

Actually Balice only works on Tove

And Tove doesn't need any help stacking anymore

[coarse tiger]

Works on Rem, too

[velvet fable]

Who?

[potent fulcrum]

Who's that?

[frozen jetty]

Waking up soon

[old fractal]

Then I guess we wait until we can use her to see if you get the buff at 4 or 5 stacks

[runic zinc]

Me try to remember boss's atk pattern and survive while Elegg plays ghost hunt

not gonna lie, I don't want to play a mini game on top of a stressful raid

which is basically any solo raids

[slender mesa]

[zealous shale]

wat minigame itll just be on the boss no?

u should be shooting boss regardless

[velvet fable]

you just play normally but do elegg on the last burst of the fight

it's even less involved than xmaiden

[runic zinc]

I see

[vapid fable]

T

[onyx sentinel]

Aren't you catch the ghost in less than 1 sec the moment boss is "haunted"

[velvet fable]

You probably do, what about it?

[onyx sentinel]

Debating burst at 13 stack vs keep 13 stack

Burst at 13 deal 10400%, but you trade with 9900% damage you lost when recovering 9 stacks of ghost

[fleet torrent]

How fast do u stack with balice

Maybe we can some godforsaken SRosanna bready Elegg b.alice cook

[crystal bane]

90 shots per stack, compare with the standard smg attack speed (single, not dual wield)

[onyx sentinel]

Ppl says it's status effect stack, not buff stack

So BAlice doesn't work

Also, if you want to know, it's 3.75s

[crystal bane]

I think I phaseshifted to another timeline

[onyx sentinel]

Cause ppl tested with Flora with XMaiden

[velvet fable]

bready mentioned

im listening

I will make the double pig team work

[velvet fable]

It depends on how much attack buffs you have, spending a b3 for 500% damage is awful, but elegg gets 40% attack during burst so if you somehow have no other attack buffs, you're spending a burst for like 4500% attack which is less bad

[crystal bane]

Even if it works
Still have to worry about burst gen

[velvet fable]

it's actually worse than 4500% attack difference even without other buffs since she gets attack from her own attack share

[velvet fable]

stick siren in

0 attack buffs team

at least it'll make bready look good since she's the only one with a real attack buff on that team

[velvet fable]

What b1 would you use if you wanted to play maids + Bready sElegg?

Liter?

[edgy jungle]

Liter

[velvet fable]

sRos probably still better for Bready selegg just so you run helm tho

So you can have a real DPS unit

[subtle heron]

Is she good

[velvet fable]

As a filler DPS that buffs sure

[hearty gazelle]

2 resets

[barren wharf]

Is she gonna be a good pair on doro?

[old fractal]

Different kits that meet different niches

Only reason you'd use both on the same team is if you really don't have anyone else to use

[barren wharf]

Thanksss may i ask who is she better with or what team

[sacred meteor]

honestly, it’s awkward. in UR you might run something like siren crown xlud helm segg. sub one of xlud/helm with sdoro if your sdoro is strong.

in AI or single team setups like campaign, she’d have to compete with mmast/helm etc

[stoic quarry]

is she available on reset or do we have to wait for some maint

[hushed root]

Available after reset on Wednesday iirc

~28 hours from now

[stoic quarry]

oh fuck i thought it was wednesday today lol.. ah well on reset is nice anyway

[barren wharf]

so she's more of a buffer also?

[livid relic]

she’s like x maiden but more dps

[barren wharf]

ahhhh hmmmmm so not necesarily a sought after

[royal flint]

Looks like XGuilo’s hero sword is nothing compared to BFG

[velvet fable]

no egg banner

i am crying

[edgy jungle]

X Guillo + Segg

the match made in heaven

[vapid fable]

Only in Water

Free 1.5 OL ELE

Free 2 ATK OL

For all Water allies

And some decent personal damage

She wont have that much dmg against no core

[velvet fable]

the difference is that xmaiden is electro and electro actually has real units

[vapid fable]

Doro: 😦

Btw Im sorry for mistaking you as Gatrix's son

That was Hsienn

[livid relic]

is most of her dmg still from auto and not from the additional dmgv

[velvet fable]

She does 1100% damage from ghost overflow every 6s and like 330% DPS from basic attack that can also core hit

[sacred meteor]

water team has so many things to fill to be a standalone team like electric
(cdr, ammo refill/reload speed buff)
technically doro has cdr but

heal and burst fill role goes to helm

[edgy jungle]

be like Rouge

[sacred meteor]

unless you wanna count mmast+manchor in

[edgy jungle]

CDR, heal, buff

all in one

[sacred meteor]

but if you do that, only room for 2 dps

and too much healing if paired with helm

[velvet fable]

Water has a ton of utility units like helm xlud and cool cleaves like doro and bready and stuff but no big dick DPS until doro

Electro has like fifty big dick DPS

Water's best DPS is also its best healer

I'm gonna make seleggs my best water DPS

[edgy jungle]

duo maid?

put Fatty in

helm wtf

[velvet fable]

Liter maids selegg bready

Brick but at least I can coom

[edgy jungle]

too much ATK

[velvet fable]

Siren?

I can't put rapi on b1 because she's my best DPS

[sacred meteor]

doro with no privaty as cdr

[velvet fable]

Wait for CN to enrich us again

Buff doro

[barren wharf]

sooo like she’s kinda not so good?

[sacred meteor]

she's good but if you're already a veteran player with a near complete roster, her value add is not as good as sdoro

[coarse tiger]

Also, most people don't have a lot of water investment, so a buffer for uninvested DPS units isn't high priority

S Doro is one of the few water DPS units worth burning resources on

[barren wharf]

aweee okay thanks 🙏🏻

[velvet fable]

do we have selegg lobby yet?

i need to know if it has feet

[slender mesa]

[velvet fable]

this is important

she shows feet when she zaps her nipples but they're pretty mid and not detailed

so i don't really want to see them

[slender mesa]

[hexed spire]

anti-feet fetish gang w

[velvet fable]

soon

[stoic quarry]

These people have disgusting trony to goon over.. leave elegg alone

[velvet fable]

people don't draw trony fat

tragic

[solid island]

They're normal people

https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-chips-eating-nom-crisps-gif-22496360

[velvet fable]

90 minutes

time to start edging

[hearty gazelle]

good luck with your pulls boys

[hexed spire]

don't end up like this guy

[hearty gazelle]

[vapid fable]

Stop right there Mr Juratus.

[hushed root]

Answer: Because you don't have enough D for your 2D hand to fill with 3D asscheeks

[vapid fable]

He cant be stopped

[hushed root]

Nuuu

[autumn whale]

you guys have had 20 seconds so I have to ask, is she good?

[hushed root]

[vapid fable]

Sorry bro busy

Bye

[vapid fable]

Good for water weak. Niche support, but very strong in that niche.

Your choice.

[hushed root]

I think we just have to confirm her mechanics

[autumn whale]

Time to MLB then.

[vapid fable]

We dont need to confirm her elemental part.

[hushed root]

Once it's confirmed, it should jive with our calculations - that she rocks

[vapid fable]

No dont shes just support.

[hushed root]

But if the mechanics betray us, than RIP calculations

[vapid fable]

She doesnt have that good damage

[hushed root]

So uh... I guess someone blind pulls and invests her then tests, or someone tests in shooting range first

[vapid fable]

But she activates other water DPS

I mean if u want her to deal at least decent damage

You know as the calculators said

You will need perfect OL

Not worth it

Its rather not realistic

There needs to be 2 distinctions here:

• Realistic
• Peak potential (max invest)

Realistically, youre not going to 4x ATK and 4× ELE Elegg.

[solid island]

Whoever's mlbing her pls show me the screen cutscene

[autumn whale]

damng my luck continues to be good.

[vapid fable]

Seems like Odin is MLBing her

Regardless of whether shes good

[solid island]

So is she worth building?

[hushed root]

This is cool. It absolutely doesn't let you miss that you captured 14th+ ghosts

This appears every time Elegg procs the ghosts overflow capture

[vapid fable]

Watching it says BOOM every 6s is gonna be fun

[hushed root]

Yep. Though I wonder if it changes anything when she bursts with 13

[fleet torrent]

Where results

[twin flint]

So, so far how's testing going? Is she worth pulling?

Or a skip?

[slender mesa]

prob only on burst tho, i dont see it every 6 sec need max stacks for it

[vapid fable]

Subjectively no. Supports like her aren't worth building too much.

Just OL and use whatever you get imo.

[autumn whale]

I'm actually waiting to see what her wallpaper looks like before I do that.

[twin flint]

So not a skip?

[solid island]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-sad-spiderman-sad-walking-spiderman-spiderman-web-of-shadows-gif-22616155

[vapid fable]

She was never a skip?

Just build her like u would build XMaiden

[mint rain]

U can just see it urself if u get 1 copy

[twin flint]

I was asking since sometimes the kits disappoint ( alter rei)

[velvet fable]

250 pulls to get one copy

[solid island]

I got it and i can't see

[vapid fable]

Her kit is strong for water weak

Its an irreplaceable niche

XMaiden can never be replaced for electric weak too can she

Maybe not now

[solid island]

Nvm i can see now

[vapid fable]

That ele buff too strong

35% is way too much

[autumn whale]

Where do you go to see it? Just a battle and not skip the burst screen?

[hushed root]

No fancy effects for 13 ghosts

[vapid fable]

• 22% caster's atk buff

[mint rain]

Ngl i got three in 80 imma just throw the tickets for the rest

[vapid fable]

Which is calculated from attacker stat

[hushed root]

So, seems like it's cooler to let the overflow procs happen

[mint rain]

Her lobby is sss tier😂

[hushed root]

Boom Boom Boom

[vapid fable]

Mb its 16%

[solid island]

[hushed root]

Cool > Ass amirite

[vapid fable]

Eyes wrong see

[solid island]

Why mobile resolution always scuffed😭

[slender mesa]

[solid island]

360p ahh this shit

[placid imp]

we pulling or skipping

[solid island]

Fix your game SU

[vapid fable]

Mathematically yes

[slender mesa]

whare are the anti feet gang

[vapid fable]

Its cooler

[hushed root]

4 letters. ||BOOM||

[twin flint]

Ok , 110 pulls to get 🙂

[vapid fable]

Skill 1 most important

[twin flint]

Wasn't as bad

As with doro

[vapid fable]

Then S2/Burst Skill for self damage

S2 more important though

Mathematically