[Raven] New Unit Megathread

[upper snow]

Huh 9th of July? Why is her banner so long

[jaunty fern]

21 day banners of Collab units

3 week events

[bronze sun]

I must MLB

[upper snow]

I’m out of resources

[gloomy topaz]

I must be lucky

Pls

Elpme

[flat nacelle]

MLB

Peak or mid nothing in between

[clear cloak]

I swear if she ends up also mid af I'm not investing in anyone unless they are half ani or full ani lmfao. I feel so robbed by eve

[bronze sun]

This is what you get from believing random jp charts that give no context

[clear cloak]

whats sad is i didnt even look at those jp charts. I knew she was gonna be mid, but not THIS mid

[gloomy topaz]

For real

[clear trellis]

yeah yeah

[raven forum]

Just choose your profession element. Not invest everything

[drowsy lantern]

That's basically the way to go. With rare exceptions, banners are actually easy to predict when ignoring PvP.

For solo raid banners, supports either end up hard meta or remain non-existent. It's usually easy to tell. DPS units end up hard meta (Pilgrims) or elemental meta (non-Pilgrims). So for non-Pilgrims, picking 1-2 elements and basically doing minimal investment in the other 3-4 is advisable.

For units off-raid, 99% of the time they're not going to accomplish anything at all (Tove and Rouge being the only exceptions I can think of).

Collabs are the weird spot because we have a blend of all strength levels, but that's where watching the raid comes in

[fiery pollen]

me when there's only 25 slots to fill but there's almost 160 units in the game

[boreal hound]

@jaunty fern

[jaunty fern]

Sup

[jaunty fern]

Me when not even 25 units are properly meta

[boreal hound]

How close is Raven compare to SBS or Mihara

Prob I will use my Mihara in neutral raids

[jaunty fern]

Prolly 90-110% depending on team and boss?

[boreal hound]

So example

No part no core

Can DoT carry her part-depended kit ?

[jaunty fern]

If gatrix is correct on theory
She might be better than both of them

[jaunty fern]

Her kit isn't part dependant

Parts basically confirm that she's better than the rest

[upper snow]

This is kinda going way too far. I really doubt SU would make the mistake to release a gigantic broken unit for collab

There’s some catch here for sure

[jaunty fern]

Yeah you guys should pray on gatrix being wrong then

Cuz the math felt right

Maybe she doesn't work like mihara?

Maybe she's different?

[upper snow]

Math feels right for sure but that means Raven being second strongest dps after rapi which is way too much for a collab unit

[jaunty fern]

Don't worry, it'll rerun when sb2 is out

[fiery pollen]

did raon also do some meth?

[boreal hound]

It's so pathetic they made her after realizing how broken Mihara Miranda is

[jaunty fern]

Yes, he said 90-95% of SBS on paper math or smthng

[jaunty fern]

I will have to scroll up but I think it was around thst

[boreal hound]

If Raven's DoT is 10s then it would be much better

[jaunty fern]

At least 90% of sbs

[boreal hound]

[fiery pollen]

regular sbs or sbs+alice/sbs+maids

[jaunty fern]

Obviously not regular sbs

[fiery pollen]

[jaunty fern]

What kinda question is that

SBS Alice maids

[upper snow]

[boreal hound]

Mihara Raven just revive SRosanna

[fiery pollen]

we're already benching alice as sbs support for kraken/UR smh

[jaunty fern]

Just in time for banner rerun

[boreal hound]

SRosanna has part dmg buff

[jaunty fern]

All planned

[fiery pollen]

you sure?

considering mihara and raven have their own big +sus dmg buffs

[upper snow]

[jaunty fern]

Alice is dead, yeah

This will be first raid where Alice is fully dead

Or was that last raid?

I don't remember

[upper snow]

Wonder if people will use Snow White + Mihara in this sr

[boreal hound]

Last was Gluttony

[upper snow]

You guys baited shino to spend his rocks right before iron raid

[boreal hound]

Sorry I'm not one trick pony

[jaunty fern]

There is a team 4 or 5 which is free probably for alice to be in, if the parts are tanky enough

So maybe Alice is used

But most probably 2.6 years after the game was released, they have managed to kill Alice

Wait, not kill

Powercreep Alice

[boreal hound]

I invest on any my strong elementals

[jaunty fern]

I think shino is fire + iron

Last fire he was Versus hesy

Lost by bare margins

This time he won

[boreal hound]

So I don't regret on spending 360+ rocks last raid

[upper snow]

I invest on meta characters too but not enough rocks to invest in all of them

So might as well just go for one element

[boreal hound]

It still depends on part are lines up or not

But I believe it will

If no then it's just a shame on SW

[fiery pollen]

plot twist:

use alice to buff raven

11% cs man

[upper snow]

It’s actually so funny how many options are open for this solo raid

Considering they make an iron weak raid once a year

It always ends up being the highest skill ceiling one

With the most flexible teams

[boreal hound]

Could be Alice Raven

Possible

Liter SRos Alice(HelmT) Raven Mihara

Maybe

[upper snow]

Mihara with Snow White Miranda

Abuse 100% crit

[boreal hound]

Then you realized who has lower atk get fucked

[upper snow]

Actually won’t happen especially if sw is higher atk cuz Mihara no self atk buffs

[boreal hound]

They dont have atk built in

[upper snow]

Yep

[boreal hound]

That's why I'm hoping MW treasure has self atk buff

[upper snow]

When I pair sw and Maxwell mw steals sw buff cuz she’s higher atk

My units are already fucked

But yeah Maxwell with self atk buff means whoever doesn’t have higher atk on MW than SW can pair them easily in one team

[gloomy topaz]

Wasuka...

[upper snow]

On equal investment grounds siren is out dps-ing wasuka

And sbs still is higher dmg than wasuka even without Alice + maids

[gloomy topaz]

[fiery pollen]

wasuka is more about lack of meta-breaking wind dps

and sudden synergy with siren's mg bullet count mechanic

before wasuka all we had was ssakura, and the gap between ssakura and sbs is astronomical

[gloomy topaz]

Ssakuwho?

[smoky saffron]

Don't think i even used wind sakura last wind raid.. she has minimal OL investment/7/7/7 skills.. but wasn't doing enough for me to slot her in to a team

I probably didn't use her or rosanna since their release raid now I think about it

Hopefully this summer units are more summer anis tier on release

[clear trellis]

my Asuka deals as much as SBS on co op

Asuka is 30k cp, SBS is 45k

OL definitely inflates too much

[upper snow]

Tbh wind asuka had abnormal buff (10%) and sbs had the bug where you’re flagged as afk if you play with mouse cursor sync. Also sbs manual vary from person to person so it also might be a

[dull plinth]

Alice buffs RH

Doubt

SBS is dead probably

[clear trellis]

let's just say my SBS can shoot exactly frame perfect

[bronze sun]

Blame the meth

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1377722269845160158/IMG_5320.gif

[latent crest]

u wot m8?

[drowsy lantern]

It is true that SBS has been losing steam

Neutral is getting phased out as we are finally getting enough quality units in each element

[latent crest]

it was a joke
SBS is technically also not able to perform at her theoretical limit as OL lines + Alice/Mana doesn't actually provide enough charge time reduction to enable it

[upper snow]

Maxwell?

[smoky saffron]

My electric raid team might phase sbs out next raid.. most of the other elements i doubt she's getting removed for a bit.. at least for me

I can't afford to 4x 4x attack/ele units like bready every few weeks and for me at least if those type of units have only mid investments.. sbs still is better

[outer glen]

Raven is a definition of:
If evil, why hot and meta?

[outer glen]

More meme

[shy crane]

shift up do an interview recently where they talked about how their stories are inspired by k-drama

[graceful folio]

Raven is one guillable girl

[smoky saffron]

Have you guys played the game or just reading wiki?

[graceful folio]

story is pretty by the number

does SB spoiler allow here

[outer glen]

Free to go

you can hide spoiler as well

[cosmic fable]

no

if you're gonna spoil anything about the game put it in spoilers

[outer glen]

Iirc, no rules say anything about not hiding spoiler of Stellar Blade

[flat nacelle]

🐦‍⬛

[graceful folio]

but still, too many information left ambiguous

[smoky saffron]

Fair enough, for me i generally like to be shown/told the story (when i play video games) which is why i was a bit meh on the story first time round.. 2nd time round i read more notes etc and it was a lot better.. hopefully they expand on stuff for the sequel more

[outer glen]

Sequel: you play as child of EVE and Adam.

[gloomy topaz]

I haven't finished the game cmon those spoilers

[cosmic fable]

spoiler your shit

or I 'll get snake to bonk you guys

[shy crane]

i'm still waiting for the game where we play as the child of 2b and 9s

[flat nacelle]

Children of the fnaf

[marsh vine]

Will this be the first time that a stronger unit releases on the second week of an event?

[shy crane]

xanne was considered the strong character of the 2 between xrupee and xanne

xanne is still used today in ca

smary was considered better than sneon

xlud better than xmica

there's a bunch more

[graceful folio]

stronger than xrupee is a pretty low bar

[raven forum]

Xrupee and Xanne both shit

[shy crane]

do we say the same about eve?

very fitting comparison then

[drowsy lantern]

No, Eve is actually a good unit

She's just not hard meta

Julia would be the comparison if we're talking X Rupee bar

[shy crane]

julia in this context? i get the feeling you didn't read shit lol

[drowsy lantern]

Talking about low bars

Unusable unit vs usable (niche) unit and usable (niche) unit vs meta unit

S Mary and S Neon same situation

X Mica's not a DPS unit, and she came after X Lud

So if you were trying to keep with the strong second comparison, you already broke your own context

[graceful folio]

context was comparison between banner from the same event

but i understand your point

[upper snow]

The anxiety is killing me. People have gigantic expectations for Raven

And if she ends up being broken I have no resources

[graceful folio]

you dont looks like a person who dont have resources for her

[half rock]

Raven is about 30 hours from now?

or is it today

[drowsy lantern]

Two resets from now

So yeah, 30-ish hours

[half rock]

ok cool

[graceful folio]

i haven't even OL Eve yet

she might ended up not needed

[upper snow]

I literally don’t I’m at 50 gems left and 7 rocks

[graceful folio]

did you fix some unit recently ?

[upper snow]

375 pulls for Eve, 2 copies. I spend rocks almost immediately after acquiring them, I have tons of units to work on

[graceful folio]

mistakes were made i guess

[bronze sun]

If I get raven on my first 10 pull I will fix my iron and MLB her

[smoky saffron]

I used all my luck and got 3 eve in 20 pulls.. aint no way it keeps up for the superior unit Raven

[flat nacelle]

RAVEN IN 30 HOURS?!

[mortal spear]

its on sight

[flat nacelle]

Sigma

[flat nacelle]

Can't wait to ravenloooo

[steep shell]

I know how u feel bud

[outer glen]

RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN RAVEN

Sorry, I'm up good for her.

Raven drops when

bot?

[flat nacelle]

Tomorrow

Crazy

[outer glen]

THanks bot.

[flat nacelle]

I'm not bot dude

Haha

[haughty mauve]

That dude seemed excited for Raven.

[crisp ether]

why is raven dropping so slow

i just unlocked her outfit in stellar blade

[clear trellis]

stop looking at her armpits

[outer glen]

Dude, I'm looking at her sword.

She wield basically a bane of machine, an ice element sword

and ice is extremely good against machinary, even against metals.

I made a concept art (just for fun) about android use ice sword many years ago, so seeing Raven use a same concept does make me up good for her.

[graceful folio]

that concept has been done since the 70s brother

[outer glen]

I know...

[thorny forge]

ice sword -> iron

well at this point their element assignments are basically random

[clear trellis]

have you seen a black angel

so black she's fire?

and a red vibe character

so red she's Dark

[outer glen]

God forbid Water to have meta.

[outer glen]

Me intentionally let Raven kill Eve in Stellar Blade just to satisfy her bitchy moment

[strong crag]

all fun and games until you get psycho woman irl

[vast lagoon]

Live by the sword, die by the sword

[graceful folio]

Online: "I can fix her"
IRL: "I shouln't even go near her"

[glacial elm]

Online: “I can fix her”
IRL: “I got fixed by her”

[haughty mauve]

Okay now...

[outer glen]

Come on, Raven got handown by Eve, at least I let her have a happy moment.

I did a pun there xD

Online: "They assume my intention to fix her, oh no, I'm gonna make her worse."

https://tenor.com/view/i-m-villain-gif-8105801559398118233

[flat nacelle]

If she's busted I'll mlb her

Busted on kraken

[clear trellis]

busted your nuts

[flat nacelle]

Noooo

[pale sorrel]

so who of you guys going to test her on reset?

[jaunty fern]

Everyone can tbh all good

[pale sorrel]

not me coz i just wasted 50 rocks on other units

[smoky saffron]

I got 9 rocks to go crazy after wasting 50 on eve

[gloomy topaz]

Scope lock test, propaganda test, real test? Which one?

[fiery pollen]

just to confirm

raven should be worth dumping like 50+ rocks on?

idk if I'll even OL eve

[jaunty fern]

Probably

[fiery pollen]

abnormal t9m scarcity be like

[jaunty fern]

Maybe try 4 first and then 50 after confirmation from a guy with armpit fetish

[atomic leaf]

Didn't know you have armpit fetish

[strong crag]

after the sniff test

[smoky saffron]

I will roll one copy.. go to bed.. check here/sky stream.. if she good = mlb

Did they give any announcement on scarlet skin for ps5 users? gonna be the first skin i missed since modernia at this rate

[strong crag]

nope they are pretending to not notice the problem till scarlet gacha is out of the shop

then they'll probably do some bs like introduce a $50 upgrade pack for ps5 users

"value" and shit ya know

[near topaz]

without part?

[strong crag]

it's her s1 dot

works without part too

[near topaz]

huh, 688% dot wtf

[fiery pollen]

i wonder if raven can still keep the stack up during wall qte's

[atomic leaf]

What if we just make raven shoots in the air during that

[fiery pollen]

needs to see how far that range for "affects 1 enemy unit neares to the crosshair" is

i was thinking of that too, but if the qte is not suitable for RL,

[flat nacelle]

Raven will kill kraken in 2 seconds

[clear trellis]

if Raven is so strong where were they when Potter boy fought Voldy

[cosmic fable]

[shy crane]

eve existed bc

harry potter is ac

[shy moth]

words from my union master

[strong crag]

Them’s big words dawg

rh power creep? Nah

[shy crane]

wow red hood of all characters? i can't believe it again

[outer glen]

Dmg aspect, can rival.

Usefulness overall? not even close.

[shy crane]

red hood is the only character that managed to drop off from raids while still having relevance in campaign

peak comedy design shift up

[gloomy topaz]

2023 creep

[flat nacelle]

1 hours

Until the best unit in the game drops

[outer glen]

I didn't remember to use alarm command on a bot

[lime valve]

4 minutes

[upper snow]

I’ve never seen as much hype on a single unit as Raven is. Even nikke twitter posted teasers

wtf is this

[shy crane]

time to test

[flat nacelle]

STOP

Guys best nikke in game is out

5 minutes since out

[tulip flame]

5min and still no test, you guys have fallen

[slim sentinel]

where tests

[shy crane]

i'm testing her jiggle physics rn

[haughty mauve]

SO what do people think of Raven so far?

Besides what I expect people to say,

[shy crane]

we think think she is released

[tawdry stirrup]

She's hot as fuck

That's all I can say so far

[clear cloak]

80 pulls not a single ssr

...

[lime valve]

25 pulls and got 2. Holy fuck

[glacial elm]

Ravenageddon has arrived

[raven forum]

She good??

[cosmic fable]

guys no one gives a dam about your pulls that's for #show-off post actual tests

[glacial elm]

I think I'll for once shooting range a character before pulls

[clear cloak]

im gonna quickly test her out right, gonna see if i can get some half decent OL lines and ill posth ere

[shy crane]

scope lock auto play damage test

happy now

[bronze sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1377722269845160158/IMG_5320.gif

[shy crane]

trail version btw

[river spoke]

they did something fucky with the way her dot procs

[glacial elm]

Here's a useless scope lock 1 minute mark shooting range vs Electric, of Raven vs Eve

[river spoke]

it gets delayed everytime she shoots

[shy crane]

oh

her dot timer resets?

[glacial elm]

Time to roll off charge speed

[river spoke]

let me just get a quick vid

[lost urchin]

What rolls does she want?

[shy crane]

ele% atk%

[steep shell]

So... Does she got the A2 delay?

[upper snow]

Ez

[shy crane]

yes but we knew that

footage shows it

[steep shell]

Welp

[glacial elm]

So in this scope lock run, it's looking obvious that her dot ticks, then her auto basic attack hits, causing it to tick again

I think that's something Gatrix projected

Basically means she's ticking twice, essentially, as long as she keeps shooting

[near topaz]

[midnight crane]

[lost urchin]

Aw is she mid i spent tickets on her

[glacial elm]

But if somehow you get her to shoot too fast, that might be a problem

[shy crane]

how is your helm so good lol is she bursting too?

why is helm 80% of rh

[near topaz]

its water weak boss

[glacial elm]

Scope lock test done of Raven & Eve vs Electric - looks like they're comparable. Trial characters. Real test will probably destroy this useless test

[steep glen]

have u tried holding a shot til after a dot tick

for double tick

[river spoke]

look at how much her dot ticks slow down everytime she shoots

[glacial elm]

She already does it automatically. She shoots. It ticks. Shot lands. It debuffs and ticks.

[glossy eagle]

Raven lb0 r15doll 10/7/9 66 ele 25 attack
RRH mlb sr15doll 10/10/10 96 ele 46 atk
RH core 4 SR15doll 10/10/10 91 ele 15 atk
full auto
https://i.imgur.com/vizOw5I.png

same number of bursts

[glacial elm]

In other words, if she has 0% chspd, she already doesn't accidentally overwrite an ongoing tick.

Idk if higher chspd makes it a problem

[shy crane]

my raven isn't popping off at all

pretty much the same ol as eve

and she isn't doing the things

[winter ledge]

Bro I spent 170 pulls for 1 copy

[glacial elm]

Also, remember that she damages parts with her burst. So 6 parts = stronger burst

Like, a burst nuke * 6 as opposed to hitting just the body

Oh right

I forgot to check if she HAS to trade buffs to gain stronger buffs

Starting up shooting range again to check

[glad ermine]

Wheres the promised best dps units in the game
I dont see it based on bunch of test guys above did

[glacial elm]

Raven bursted. Got the buff. Enemy had no parts whatsoever.

[smoky saffron]

She looks worse then eve the limited tests I have done so far lol

[winter ledge]

Gatrix waking up to this tomorrow:

[glacial elm]

[glossy eagle]

ill go again with helm idk why i was using naga

[flint sapphire]

Seems like another "looks good on paper but actually mid execution"

[wispy geyser]

how's it going in the raven test realm

pull one and leave it?

[glacial elm]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

(not good)

[smoky saffron]

I'd wait till tomorrow lol.. she seems REALLY shit to me

[wispy geyser]

so basically yeah grab one and just be done

[glacial elm]

It's still early

[glossy eagle]

idk her burst bar seems funky it stays at full charge for so long. is that the same as a2? i dont have a2

[glacial elm]

For all we know someone reveals a tech that breaks the game using Raven

[glossy eagle]

sorry charge bar

[steep shell]

She should be put in SR to have a proper test

[viral kiln]

at least test her on ultra

not shootin range

[steep shell]

That is also a way

[glacial elm]

Anyways her buffing is as described. Trading buff is not enforced, she will gain the new buff even if the previous buff is missing. It's effectively like casting a dispel when there are no debuffs to dispel, she tries anyway.

[smoky saffron]

She did no damage on kraken.. will try ultra now

[fallen moon]

wouldn't wanna spend rocks on suck if she's bad

[viral kiln]

mock run

[haughty mauve]

Oh that's really bad.

[fallen moon]

test on somewhere where you need vs works out of the box, gonna have to take the latter til others test

a lot of people i'm probably saw/heard the expected numbers w/ no parts, and she can't scrape that

[glossy eagle]

https://i.imgur.com/8rgGzxs.png

same stats but helm raven got another burst

[glacial elm]

Yep, and it's actually a problem if she competes successfully with Eve against an enemy with zero parts

Because what then if the enemy has parts?

Superior investment in this case

[haughty mauve]

Are they just afraid of making another version of Asuka?

[strong crag]

They’re afraid of marketing their own game

[glacial elm]

So don't despairge if she only does as well as Eve against 0-parts foe

[clear cloak]

it just screams, kit was made during rh time and didnt bother updating numbers

[glacial elm]

Worry if she gets demolished vs Ultra

That guy has parts which respawn

[cosmic fable]

10/7/7 oh wait I forgot to doll this girl

[valid ermine]

ele advantage?

[haughty mauve]

It's the same thing with B2 Nikkes, they're way too afraid of making another Nikke that's close in power to Crown.

[cosmic fable]

rapirh has really good OL
RH has shit numbers
raven lacking a doll and has pretty decent numbers

[glossy eagle]

yes

[valid ermine]

bad test then, do without lol

[cosmic fable]

will update when blabla updates cause I'm lazy and working atm

[oak sun]

To be fair, Crown probably WAS a mistake

[flint sapphire]

Well the collab might have been planned to release a long time ago when the PS5 game came out and just got dragged longer so might explain stuff

[oak sun]

Crown is the undisputed queen of the B2 slot

[haughty mauve]

I'm inclined to believe that, but no, it couldn't have been a mistake.

[glacial elm]

I don't think ShiftUp is opposed to creating a best in class character

So idk if Crown is a mistake or not

Did they admit as much?

[clear cloak]

yeah, thats pretty much what im assuming

[upper snow]

Shiftup managed to once again f*** up iron element

By releasing dogshit units

[cosmic fable]

I think you replied to the wrong comment

[oak sun]

I think Crown is probably around the upper ceiling for B2 if you don't want much more power creep, in the same way that everyone whines that every new B3 doesn't do as much damage as SSR Rapi

[flint sapphire]

dogshit "collab" units

[glad ermine]

I woke up just to pull this and seeing the test here I am laughing hard rn

[smoky saffron]

Game just gets boring.. basically wait for new year unit.. half ani or ani.. for potentially new meta unit.. rest of shit is just minor filler/sidegrades

[shy crane]

i saw too much confidence in raven but i'm glad i voiced my distrust of it

[haughty mauve]

I definitely did. Meant to reply to what Telosa was saying. 🤣

[steep shell]

You begged for Iron then they gave you what you wanted now still bemoaning

[oak sun]

but it's probably a very bad thing if someone actually outperforms SSR Rapi (barring Elemental advantage and situational boss fights)

[steep shell]

This guy

[upper snow]

They have two units that are below bready lvl

What else can I say

[smoky saffron]

I was asking if mistakes were made before.. cus i couldn't believe she'd be so much better then eve

[steep shell]

Good

They don't have to be OP

[upper snow]

I guess at least I got a solo raid and coop to do

[oak sun]

It'

[haughty mauve]

I think they're more afraid of powercreeping Pilgrims since that's where a decent chunk of money comes from.

[upper snow]

And since they are irrelevant that increases my odds of getting decent solo raid rank

[clear cloak]

its so stupid, it just invalidates pulling ever unless its on anni. Like even if they kept these collabs at like 75-80% of the top dealers it would be fine, but 40-50% is diabolical

[weak ledge]

So, how's Raven guys?

[oak sun]

It's less about being OP, and more about future units needing to be more situational rather than all-rounders

[steep shell]

Why would you want them to be OP anyways

[haughty mauve]

Well, certain Pilgrims.

[steep shell]

Lol

[upper snow]

Iron dps are extremely outdated and niche

Would be nice if they gave us something decent to use vs no core/parts

[steep shell]

It's a matter of variety

[shy crane]

we might have gained our biggest example yet

sss tier is still in the pins lol

[haughty mauve]

Some people don't want to go out of their way to get iron dps like RH and RRH.

[flint sapphire]

Considering they can easily rerun this collab in the future and the caharacters are their design they could have at least made the characters more than mid.

[glacial elm]

So I think what's holding her back a tad is the animation lock on shot release. It's very noticeable, just like A2's. You cannot spam shots on her

[frozen nimbus]

sooo is it sss?

[shy crane]

must be

[glacial elm]

So it's not just 1s charge time. It's 1s + delay

[frozen nimbus]

i was pulling rn and then i remembered research lab and came here

[oak sun]

Like, Maid Mast + Anchor are a good sidegrade to Crown. They offer similar buffs and damage output, but they're meant for a particular niche (Distributed Damage).

[clear cloak]

yup

[frozen nimbus]

what if i already have them both?

[smoky saffron]

Rapi was a fkin mistake lol.. its crazy she can just shit on everyone dps as fire Or iron.. while also being a b1.. meanwhile these shitter units are like 50-60% of her damage unless u really min max their OL

[steep shell]

Raven and EVE going to be used in future Iron raids imo, they are here to stay

[haughty mauve]

Yeah she's really slow in that regard. That animation screwed over her potential dps.

[oak sun]

That's a healthy way of adding new B2s that complement / compete with Crown without powercreep.

[haughty mauve]

I only have one of them.

[upper snow]

Eve for sure. Raven I’m not so sure

[steep shell]

With some certain part bias with Iron weak

Both are

[upper snow]

And Eve is most likely gonna be used as a supporter

[steep shell]

You just haven't seen Raven at her best

[oak sun]

But if we got a future unit that was just Crown, but even stronger, that would be a huge issue.

[steep shell]

Though it's debatable

[shy crane]

iron dps are typically bad anyway i don't think we are going to get something as crazy as an iron cindy

[steep shell]

But she's just above avg

[haughty mauve]

I already don't like the idea of powercreeping Crown anyways. Then you'll know something is fucked around here.

[smoky saffron]

Iron and water dps hand in hand being pathetic (rapi is fire)

[steep shell]

@clear trellis can use his meth head to explain how OP he thought she was

[upper snow]

Bro at this point I’m confident Cinderella will outdmg her in solo raid

[gentle wigeon]

Mc got mc aura buff

[steep shell]

It's raid specific so nah

[haughty mauve]

At least water has Quency and T. Helm. But yeah it's still pathetic.

[upper snow]

Will see

But so far initial testing is hot garbage

[river spoke]

shiftup can't even program a dot right

shooting actually cucks her dot so hard

[upper snow]

Guess time to wait for sr tomorrow and coop Friday

Have my 3 days of glory

[steep shell]

Remember, the Raven you are seeing isn't at her 50% yet lol@upper snow

Relax

[strong crag]

then where we get 100% Raven?

[upper snow]

And then disappear for another year

[strong crag]

In our dreams?

[oak sun]

Sometimes, it feels like the only reason why we don't have a meta Sustained Damage team is Shift Up's spaghetti code.

[flint sapphire]

C7 to get 100% Raven trust!

[dull plinth]

Raven cannot shoot.

[steep shell]

Unlikely because she might be useful for UR

[gloomy topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cat-gif-20807115

[cosmic fable]

SR5 and 10/10/10 now

[dull plinth]

Just afk her.

[steep shell]

Ngl

[smoky saffron]

Fk it gonna save my rocks to min max mihara attack for nier solo raid

[upper snow]

That rh looks kinda shit

[strong crag]

Damn it’s cartethiya situation again

[haughty mauve]

It seems like she needs FULL investment to get there in terms of iron DPS.

[cosmic fable]

cause it is

[strong crag]

C7 to get 10000% Raven guys

[cosmic fable]

read the small caption under the first damage test

[tropic token]

Damn so Raven worse than eve???

Goodness

[strong crag]

They’re equally shit good

[shy crane]

if you don't like me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best - raven probably

[upper snow]

Do I even need to request someone to do rapi b1 rh Raven naga

It’ll be pure comedy to see rh x2 her dmg

[dull plinth]

Raven MUST be played afk.

[steep shell]

Yep

[tropic token]

Her shooting that bad?

Worse than a2?

[dull plinth]

Slows down DoT.

But you can hold charge and hold at max charge.

[tropic token]

Wow

[dull plinth]

To aim if needed.

[oak sun]

Apparently, it's a combination of A2's animation delay and also her attacks fuck up her DOT if you're not careful

[upper snow]

How do they fuck up the dot

[tropic token]

That's what I'm trying to figure

Out

[haughty mauve]

It wouldn't surprise me if they get some shit over this.

[dull plinth]

Landing full charged attacks prematurely trigger 1 DoT stack damage only, not current stack.

[river spoke]

she procs the small 68% tick when she shoots, which then delays the stacked dot proc by 1.5~2s

[vague berry]

So... is she clip?
Pvp?

[frozen nimbus]

soo

[fallen moon]

@upper snow idk but see this

[frozen nimbus]

rave is broken?

not sss?

[river spoke]

if shiftup intended for her to be like this

[viral kiln]

Riven doesn't get Crown*s atk buff here, she might be decent enough

[river spoke]

then she's just shit

[dull plinth]

Only 1s.

Live ticks need 1s in between.

[summer steppe]

so what's raven's use

[dull plinth]

But if Raven lands a shot in between.

[river spoke]

its definitely more than 1s

[summer steppe]

also is there any special tech with her i gotta use?

[dull plinth]

It triggers 1 stack prematurely and reset the timer to 1s.

[cunning saffron]

whats the early impression so far?

[dull plinth]

Must manual.

[summer steppe]

oh...

[cosmic fable]

on blabla updated kinda fast there

[dull plinth]

You can quick shot too.

[cosmic fable]

for my damage tests

[summer steppe]

but like manual in which way

[river spoke]

blabla updates in real time now

[summer steppe]

full charge, quick charge?

[dull plinth]

Just dont full charge with her once at 10 stacks.

[oak sun]

Too much work for too little return. People always tend to be histrionic about new releases if they don't outperform the top meta picks, though.

[devout anvil]

is raven good she ate all my gems

[shy crane]

it's a crashout

[dull plinth]

Avoid releasing a full charge when enemy already has 10 stacks.

[summer steppe]

does it reset?

[cunning saffron]

hmm sounds like a 1 copy pull only

[vague berry]

Oooh, no clip. No pvp party

[summer steppe]

after full charge do I just like half-charge or smth?

[dull plinth]

Wait it lasts only 5s so...

[summer steppe]

full stacks* I meant

[dull plinth]

Gotta manual hard.

You must full charge once every 5s.

[fallen moon]

this goes a bit beyond the last part you're keeping up what people expected i think
there was smth about her dealing similar dot dps to mihara or smth, not at all accounting for burst dmg, w mihara being one of the top dps, this is kek

[shy crane]

does hitting reset the dot timer or something

why hold a charge

[river spoke]

her shot hitting cucks her dot procs

[dull plinth]

Inflicts 1 stack damage and resets the timer to 1 sec.

[raven forum]

Oh no she's shit? I already pull her lb2

[shy crane]

oh so people were right that her attack reprocs the dot but it only inflicts a 1 stack

[glad ermine]

Its tick 1 stack of dot not the 10 stack by what people says

[shy crane]

that's fucked lol

[cunning saffron]

lol so full charge between 5 seconds (slip in quick hits in between)

[raven forum]

At least i did not use rock yet

[summer steppe]

but inbetween then should I do quick-fires?

[steep shell]

Nangkwak demands u to C7 Raven

[shy crane]

is this spaghetti or purpose coding i can't tell with shift up

[summer steppe]

how long is full charge anyways, how long does it take

[steep shell]

[glacial elm]

Nice looking. You can try Anomaly Ultra now

[summer steppe]

this collab has kinda sh*t af units

[raven forum]

[upper snow]

I tried scope lock Raven and her dot dmg increased even with full charged shots

Dunno if it’s some buggy interaction

[raven forum]

My iron shit, No way C7 if she's shit

[cosmic fable]

nah my RH shit

[steep shell]

[dull plinth]

You need to max the debuff stacks first and maintain them.

[cosmic fable]

have not gotten around to fixing her OL and haven't felt a need to

[summer steppe]

so... full charge until 10 stacks, then just tap fire spam, doing a full charge every 5 seconds for the rest of the fight

[summer steppe]

damn

[gloomy topaz]

omg real test before expected

no propaganda o shit rh

[glacial elm]

Holy mother Raven

[gloomy topaz]

thanks sir facundo

[upper snow]

Bro committed hard

[gloomy topaz]

[summer steppe]

my rrh outdamages my rh a lot

[upper snow]

Sacrificed himself for the greater good

[shy crane]

did you do the hold fire at 10 stacks thing?

[raven forum]

🚮

[dull plinth]

Not a good place to test because RH loves core.

[gloomy topaz]

blocked

[upper snow]

It doesn’t even have naga dude

[raven forum]

[steep shell]

C7 leggo

[dull plinth]

Whyyyyyyyy

[gloomy topaz]

jokes aside i know shooting range is not the best place

[dull plinth]

Raven's damage is purely from DoT

[raven forum]

[dull plinth]

Remove the core aspect to test damage in SR

You can play RH and dont hit the core

I mean

Same shit

[gloomy topaz]

yeah naga in shooting range only pumps rh and rrh

[upper snow]

I know

[steep shell]

Just mock Ultra @gloomy topaz

[midnight crane]

thx sire facundo

[oak sun]

The basic problem is that Raven is a Sustained Damage attacker who needs to destroy parts on a regular basis to get most of her damage output

[steep shell]

[upper snow]

That’s my point actually

[midnight crane]

u died for us all

[dull plinth]

That has core

[upper snow]

Rh isn’t even at max pump with naga

[steep shell]

With parts

[oak sun]

Which is admittedly an issue -- you can slot RH into almost any team without any issues. She's just better if she can hit cores.

[gloomy topaz]

remember me as a good player

[steep shell]

I wanna see the spectacle

[oak sun]

But you're not going to get her proper damage numbers on the shooting range.

[gloomy topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[midnight crane]

u r more than that, u r my hero, my goat

[dull plinth]

The core is more impactful. The parts break in 1 sec.

[midnight crane]

[raven forum]

100 rolls for thiz

[upper snow]

Only saving grace now is if solo raid boss has hidden core that can be hit by pierce

[summer steppe]

this seems like kind of a pain in the *ss

ngl

[raven forum]

Fuck this shit

[gloomy topaz]

lets check ultra

[oak sun]

that being said, it's totally fair to not invest in Raven when she's only relevant for ONE element and one highly situational niche for that particular element.

[steep shell]

Can give it a go after all, we're getting data

[dull plinth]

Why is there no coreless boss test

[dull plinth]

We kinda alr have

[summer steppe]

alteisen?

[dull plinth]

Seems similar to RH

[summer steppe]

0 core, many parts

[winter ledge]

Exia gaming

[steep shell]

Dammi i risultati

[shy crane]

you can test on a boss with core but then not aim at the core

[gloomy topaz]

on it

[winter ledge]

Devs really loved that type of gameplay

[summer steppe]

what is her gameplay

[glacial elm]

Eve barely lost to RH when RH had no parts to pierce.

Raven is losing a fair bit to RH when both Raven and RH had no parts to wreck (or pierce, in RH's case).

However, they both still do kickass Iron damage.

Now bring Raven and RH to a boss with parts...

Looks like if you'd be happy with Eve, you'd be pleased with Raven.

[dull plinth]

Raven offburst afk (but need to maintain stacks) is better on ultra btw.

[ocean kiln]

are there any skill recs yet

i wanna use her for gd

[shy crane]

raven off burst gameplay?

[raven forum]

I will go to sleep, wake up and someone will test her become the best iron dps

[winter ledge]

Use pierce units for GD
Have you unlocked Anomaly

[ocean kiln]

no

💀

[dull plinth]

Oh now you have a profile picture

[dull plinth]

A profile border

And an emote

Damn

Bro exited the bright web

[steep shell]

@dull plinth so this Collab mid?

[dull plinth]

I still think Raven is good enough if manually played but just clunky. Whole collab is mid tho

Self collab is not real collab anyway

[raven forum]

Saving rock event

[dull plinth]

The real collab is next month

NieR 2

[clear cloak]

its okay, next collab will be eva 3, they will learn their lesson and make them strong

[glad ermine]

I hope when we woke up shes really become mihara tier

[dull plinth]

Obviously

[viral kiln]

my impression is she’'s worse than expected, but decent enoguh iron dps

[dull plinth]

Nah

[raven forum]

It's rerun banner brother

[summer steppe]

is there gonna be a visual indicator about the amount of stacks an enemy has and how long until the duration runs out?

[dull plinth]

Mihara better

[summer steppe]

or am I going to have to manually count how many times I shoot and then just keep counting for every 5s

[dull plinth]

Just full charge at least once every 5s

[steep shell]

Though I do like imagine what a full force Eve and Raven can do

[stuck snow]

what overloads do i get

[summer steppe]

but with charge time in total, you gotta start charging at like 4s to get it off in time... not that bad

[steep shell]

Getting both should be fine 4 now

[glacial elm]

She's more traditional, basically Ele, Atk, enough Ammo to please you, and then whatever secondaries

[upper snow]

I think I’ll go the JP route

[dull plinth]

I think it shows as debuff stacks above boss HP bar but in SR good luck

[steep shell]

I'll wait for Nier fav item

[glacial elm]

Jury's still out on if we really want ChSpd, and how much is too much

[stuck snow]

do i bother with charge at all

[upper snow]

Get 12 black lines on Snow White and do happy hunting once a year on heavy metal UR and iron weak solo raid

[dull plinth]

No

[stuck snow]

cuz i keep getting multiple charge rolls

[dull plinth]

She doesnt need

[cunning saffron]

so assuming that she resets the stack if on auto, this means that she performs super mid in pvp then?

[eternal shard]

80 pulls should i golden ticket her or just skip

Seems kinda ass

[river spoke]

getting charge speed reduces her damage because she shoots more

[steep shell]

You don't want to put yourself through hell man lol

[summer steppe]

not if u tap-fire

[dull plinth]

More like u shudnt be landing shots

[ocean kiln]

so is this a bad time to ask what pierce is

[muted wharf]

Got her

[upper snow]

At this point I have no reason for this game anymore

They are trolling me hard

[muted wharf]

got 3 atk, 1 ele and 1 max ammo

[river spoke]

good luck quick firing with the delay

[keen sequoia]

Has the DoT mechanism changed on Raven? Why are we seeing a huge discrepancy between test and meth?

[strong crag]

Thanks ShitUp for not making me mlb Raven so I can mlb 2Booty

[smoky saffron]

We have 2 weeks for next unit right? Good lord so fkin boring with all these mid units

[strong crag]

[muted wharf]

wait

[glacial elm]

Idk if he added the right delay. It's very noticeable, feels like a quarter of a second to me.

In other words, Raven is hitting every 1.25s+ (thereabouts), not 1s. She can't start charging another shot until her delay is done

[dull plinth]

NieR 2 probably gonna have diff chars

[strong crag]

It’s a rerun who said it’s another part 2

[dull plinth]

Rerun wont make money

[steep shell]

You got one midcard unit and upper card unit, what u want from them

[dull plinth]

ShiftUp is dumb

[feral crystal]

So raven not worth mlbing?

[oak sun]

Pierce hits through targets and shields. If you manage to position your shots to hit multiple parts, you're essentially multiplying your damage by however many extra parts you manage to hit (since damage is calculated independently for each part and added to the final total)

[strong crag]

Hell no

[feral crystal]

Tough

[dull plinth]

U sure its not new banners + old reruns?

[oak sun]

So, units like Red Hood, Alice, Snow White, etc.

[stuck snow]

How the fuck does that work

[upper snow]

A proper dps that doesn’t need core and parts

[tropic token]

It's a rerun

[dull plinth]

Actual reruns?

[cunning saffron]

maybe her stack mechanic is bugged right now?

[muted wharf]

Are we winning guys?

[keen sequoia]

Won’t that just affect the ramp up speed? Once it’s full stack, it should stay there unless full screen QTE or boss jump?

[dull plinth]

Literally no new content?

[muted wharf]

[steep shell]

You are bashing the entire Iron code lmao this guy

[summer steppe]

gonna just have to keep track manually

[dull plinth]

[cunning saffron]

gonna wait a few days for possible update from SU maybe

[oak sun]

And yeah, my understanding is that the Nier event is a rerun, but with some extra skins for 2B and A2

[tropic token]

If anything 2B and A2 will be getting new skins tho

[feral crystal]

So is eve better?

[tropic token]

Apparently swimsuits

[upper snow]

It’s hopeless. Trash element I just uninstall

[oak sun]

It'd be nice if A2 and 2B got some buffs at the same time, but that's unlikely.

[dull plinth]

Dunno yet

[glacial elm]

The delay is on every shot. So if you tap and try to shoot like high-on-sugar Alice, you're forced to have the delay before you can shoot again.

So, yeah. I question whether it's worth avoiding fully charging. Also, someone said DoT dmg went up when charging more. Which is weird and needs verification.

[dull plinth]

Treasure

[steep shell]

Dun worry, Shino can help you release your pent up urges

[smoky saffron]

There was a deleted interview on famitsu saying they get swimsuit costume yeah.. maybe if cn also gets thr collab (and they buff for cn) we will get buff

[summer steppe]

taking into account her clip size and reload time, I can't just follow a specific rotation for her shots, just hope I can count for sh*t

[upper snow]

I feel like ShiftUp realized they gave Raven too big %s and tried to balance her without touching the numbers to not cause riot in the community

[clear cloak]

honestly if they really want to be testing the waters with parts units, they need to update shooting range to let us choose a parts specific boss cuz the way to test this niche is dumb

[upper snow]

So they made the spaghetti code

[summer steppe]

well the dot ticks every 1s.. but it's AFTER 1s of dot being applied, the first tick happens right?

[steep shell]

Again I think they can't afford to make too strong a unit

And it's new mechanic it is alr is DoT

[tropic token]

Ofc not

[summer steppe]

with enough charge speed can't u make the dot never proc

[tropic token]

It'll be too easy remember

[raven forum]

Rerun + new skin

[oak sun]

It would be nice if A2 and 2B got Treasures, but I highly doubt it.

[dull plinth]

What actually happens rn is

[glacial elm]

Basically, on full auto, she never makes a tick fail. And on hitting, she procs the tick again. So by default, she's doing what we all want to do.. maybe a little slower than if we manualed.

[tropic token]

The most op units have to be 1% cause Shift wants us to suffer and spend money

[dull plinth]

DoT ticks - full charge lands - wait 1s - DoT ticks - full charge lands - wait 1s - repeat.

[summer steppe]

well it's certainly much less hassle

[steep shell]

Is will Nier rerun has fav items?

[summer steppe]

it's like sbs situation, to avoid the pain, just let her manual

[summer steppe]

so assuming u have no CS, the dot tick should happen RIGHT before the shot lands?

cause it takes 1s to charge up

[glacial elm]

Pretty much. At least, what I saw was white numbers popping from the tick, then her shot lands and white numbers popped from reapplying the dot (reprocced the tick)

[summer steppe]

but if we include the time inbetween shots and travel time...

[dull plinth]

Technically if you make her charge time + animation + everything become 1.00000000001 second long. Ure gucci.

[strong crag]

Cn buff = our treasure

[summer steppe]

what a pain

why can't they just add Tachy and make her op

lore accurate

sales would go up

[strong crag]

They could’ve made Eve a kick ass op character to advertise stellar blade

Nah

Make em all mid

[summer steppe]

GRRRRR

[strong crag]

[summer steppe]

SB is a fun game tho

[strong crag]

def

[glacial elm]

I think to screw it up you'd need 25% charge speed, somewhere close to it. 20%-25%+ range

[clear cloak]

3.0 anni gonna be iron and do double eves damage

[glacial elm]

So as long as you don't have 4 black charge speed lines, you don't have to sweat it. Probably. If no one on team buffs her charge speed.

[summer steppe]

but why is there a fcking redident evil section in the underground lab?

[dull plinth]

As long as the total is above 1s you wont screw up

[summer steppe]

scared the sh8t out of me

I didn't trust a single corner or door

[dull plinth]

We need Gatrix maths

[tropic token]

Crazy to even think charge speed will brick ya own unit. That kind of shit is ridiculous imo

[strong crag]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-shh-dont-speak-be-quite-gif-13458150

[summer steppe]

in that lab

[dull plinth]

To see how much ms

[strong crag]

I hate that section

[summer steppe]

me too

I'm in the middle of it

[strong crag]

Oof

You’ll get out soon man

[summer steppe]

just found a camp, and I'm gonna finish it soon

[bitter ice]

raven mid?

[strong crag]

No

She’s low

[dull plinth]

Her damage should spike somewhat near 1.05s or something

[bitter ice]

ok i build laplace instead

[summer steppe]

LB0 both raven and eve I suppose

[bitter ice]

HERO POWER CHARGE

[glacial elm]

How's Ultra doing?

[ruby canopy]

so uhhh raven is cursed?

[summer steppe]

they're collab units so always get at least 1 unit

for collection

right?

[strong crag]

Yep

[gloomy topaz]

bad, really bad

dont use her

[summer steppe]

LMAO

[strong crag]

K

Wrap it up boys

[gloomy topaz]

[tropic token]

To be expected

[glacial elm]

But can we marry her?

[summer steppe]

both sh*t

[strong crag]

she’ll peg you

[cunning saffron]

I mean ultra demands pierce/core unit

[dull plinth]

At below 1.1s, afking actually becomes worse

[gloomy topaz]

let me do something with her dot

[tropic token]

Shinono gonna somehow clear Ultra with Raven

[cunning saffron]

that mid dot unit not gonna perform good

[summer steppe]

you poor soul

LB2 :C

[gloomy topaz]

i can clear ultra

who said i canno

[dull plinth]

Easily lmao

[gloomy topaz]

problem is

her dmg

[dull plinth]

Its doable nowadays

[tropic token]

Is bad

[gloomy topaz]

barely 1b

[tropic token]

Ughhh

[upper snow]

So even vs boss with parts she’s shitting the bed?

[glacial elm]

Is it because you killed Anomaly Ultra in 20 seconds?

[summer steppe]

I really hope the autofire ai timing is good enough so that I don't need to manual

[tropic token]

Well good to know not to use her for ultra

[steep shell]

Hai un rapporto?

[dull plinth]

No

[summer steppe]

?

[gloomy topaz]

forget ultra guys lemme try something else xd

[steep shell]

[summer steppe]

harvester?

[steep shell]

This guy

[summer steppe]

does harvest have a core?

wait it has no parts either

[tropic token]

Yes

[cunning saffron]

kraken?

[summer steppe]

what boss has no core yet a lot of parts (besides alteisen)

[steep shell]

Every AI has core

[cunning saffron]

nah has core

[steep shell]

Alteisen has core

Lol

[summer steppe]

but it's not AI

it's just normal interception

[tropic token]

Giving us all these units with sustained and distributed but no boss with no core to test

Shit sucks

[summer steppe]

there is no AI alteisen

[upper snow]

Is this how ShiftUp add skill ceiling in this game

[steep shell]

Uh huh

[upper snow]

Make a unit only work if you time the shots precisely

[summer steppe]

sbs is the only good distributed dmg character I think?

[muted wharf]

[steep shell]

Issok, your Iron wet dream can wait another year

[dull plinth]

Why is ur bio like that i got baited

[tulip flame]

Alteisen has a core

[upper snow]

I still have rapi and rh above 100/50 each

[summer steppe]

HWAT

WHERE

[tropic token]

On the top turret

[river spoke]

in the turret

[dull plinth]

The head

[summer steppe]

hehehe

oh

[tropic token]

People don't know that

[steep shell]

In between the gun barrels

[summer steppe]

well dude never rly lived long enough ngl

[steep shell]

[dull plinth]

Behind the rifle beam

[summer steppe]

I just sorta auto piloted hte boss

[upper snow]

Can only be hit with pierce tho

[tropic token]

Ted tip to get in extra dmg

[latent crest]

her DoT is bugged

[tropic token]

That's why you delay the qte a bit

[ruby canopy]

yeah most of the time you're not hitting it with pierce

[latent crest]

it's ticking every 90 frames at 60 fps

[gloomy topaz]

oh she needs to do attacks

[latent crest]

which is not once a second

[gloomy topaz]

exactly

[ruby canopy]

wat

[gloomy topaz]

you cant stall

[ruby canopy]

is this like Dragalia's dot and regen ticks?

[upper snow]

So it’s not the auto that’s refreshing it. It’s the dot itself being bugged?

[gloomy topaz]

or is how she works?

[summer steppe]

the segmented spoilers gives people time to think and stop what they're doing

[gloomy topaz]

dot feels so bad guys

[latent crest]

the DoT itself should tick every 59 frames at 60 fps if it's ticking every second

[glacial elm]

Bugged?

[tropic token]

I hope it's bugged

That means she's redeemable

[strong crag]

Eve must pull got it

[dull plinth]

It ticks every 1 sec.

60 frames

If you afk

Her shots mess with it

[latent crest]

these devs don't know how to not round shit, the game thinks 17ms pass every frame at 60 fps

[haughty mauve]

Didn't they also buff Red Hood when she was shit?

[latent crest]

this causes 1 second to pass for the combat engine in 59 frames

[bitter ice]

theres hope for her?

[strong crag]

people complained a lot and it was first anni special unit

[latent crest]

even if they chose to not use rounded time, it should not be ticking every 90 frames as it currently does

[strong crag]

This is just a mid ass collab shit

Don’t expect a fix

[lost urchin]

damn

[glacial elm]

I'm confused. So you're saying the 90 frames tick is because her shot messed with it?

[ruby canopy]

so uhhh is Raven just another name for Crow?

[dull plinth]

Its literally every 1 sec

[haughty mauve]

I mean, I showed up around Old Tales so I wouldn't know.

[glacial elm]

So if she keeps shooting automatically after that one messup, it becomes 60 frames tick?

[dull plinth]

Someone sent a vid here

[latent crest]

I just recorded it myself, there are 90 frames between dot ticks

[dull plinth]

It does somehow tick slower if shes shooting at the same time

[flat nacelle]

Kraken meta

[haughty mauve]

Except it's not just a mid ass collab unit. It's a mid ass collab unit from their OWN IP! That arguably makes it worse.

[latent crest]

where I'm from, we call that a bug

[lost urchin]

I rolled 80 ele w/ 10 rocks 7/7/7’d her and im calling it a day

[ruby canopy]

or maybe it's a feature to make us associate Raven with Crow

[gloomy topaz]

also stop posting weak red hoods

[latent crest]

every 1 second for 5 seconds means every 1 second, not 1 second if doing nothing, and 1.5 seconds if shooting

[gloomy topaz]

[dull plinth]

No, cus we already know this bug from Mihara's Burst.

[latent crest]

mihara's DoT ticks faster, not slower

[dull plinth]

The first tick is premature

First tick is instant

2nd tick is 2s away

Then it's 1s each

[lost urchin]

So they just need to patch it and shes gonna be good right guys

[dull plinth]

I think what happens here is the same. First tick is instant

Then it waits 2s

Around that

[ruby canopy]

so why not just use Laplace?

[lost urchin]

My laplace is cracked anyway so im going to be fine

[steep shell]

Could be 30% increment

Meh

[flat nacelle]

This changes everything

[steep shell]

I don't believe in Raven yet

[haughty mauve]

Probably not.

[strong crag]

Right after you core 7 her bud

[ruby canopy]

this isn't SU not balancing their game, it's just bad coding lmao

[strong crag]

[bitter ice]

hero power charge!!

[clear cloak]

delta time 🙂

[steep shell]

Lemme know when her math gets fixed lol@dull plinth

[dull plinth]

So hiw long is her animation anyways

[strong crag]

Laplace meta

[dull plinth]

@latent crest DoT ticks are 1 sec apart, but the first tick after a landed shot I think is ~1.5s away.

Idk why.

[latent crest]

you are correct, it's 90 frames and then every 59 frames after that

[dull plinth]

Yeah so maybe Mihara's works that way too

Probably hard coded

To be 1.5 second

[near topaz]

huh, so... she just ... bad? not bug?