[Eve] New Unit Megathread

[hybrid spoke]

That means neutral

She'll be a fine unit, then.

[jade pewter]

[final cipher]

[cold sorrel]

I dont see

any conclusion here

Seems like she's not particularly shining either

[thick oracle]

I mean the conclusion is simple

[steady snow]

She's iron raid-worthy

[thick oracle]

Unit for iron weak raids

No AoE, no self ATK buff, no campaign

Not enuf damage to compare to big butt Cindy

So she doesn't go into neutral

[steady snow]

Keep her shiny in a glass box and take her out for 2 iron raids every year

[thick oracle]

She's situationally better than RH

Which is a 2023 unit

[steady snow]

Huh, how? Is it because of her dmg taken debuff?

[thick oracle]

No, it's cuz

Rh good Vs boss with parts

Otherwise you can consider Rh as weaker than eve

[ionic cairn]

Pierce moment

[steady snow]

That sucks

[slate marsh]

im glad Shift Up is still keeping the tradition of not making collab units exceptionally good so that people wont complain about FOMO too much

[severe compass]

She is "just ok"

[slate marsh]

[ionic cairn]

Worse than an aged unit that's not even used as a b3 hardly ever anymore

[slate marsh]

-# im hoping they actually buff the Nier units for their rerun tho

[severe compass]

Gonna buff them with new gacha costumes instead

[steady snow]

Mr Kim: I heard you wanted 2B buff so we buff her booty size, you're welcome

[slate marsh]

2B jiggle buff and a gacha skin for A2

thats all you get

[jade pewter]

if this wasn't self then I would be duck

🦆

[thick oracle]

Forgot

[thick oracle]

But her sequential attacks splitting is pretty bad I think

[jade pewter]

her S1 will hit randomly 3 targets right?

[cold sorrel]

But point being SB is their inhouse IP
meaning they dont have issue with bringing it back often
unlike other IP with contracts

why make your own game Collab as sucky suck unit

[jade pewter]

so AoE too

Yes AoE, Yes self ATK Buff, so Yes campaign

[cold sorrel]

Not " Area "

[jade pewter]

Blackpink then

[hybrid spoke]

Basically safe to assume from now on that any 2% banner DPS will be a raid-exclusive elemental unit (if useful at all)

Neutral is gradually getting phased out

[jade pewter]

finally we go back to Destiny Child

[uncut goblet]

is eve good for all around? campaign etc?

[unkempt goblet]

sh*t in campaign

iron weak sr-only unit

should I just like...

7/7/4 her or smth

and call it a day

not even gonna 10/7/4

[uncut goblet]

okay thanks 🙏 will keep one copy

[halcyon dew]

Hard to reach 100% crit rate without 10 s1 no?

[unkempt goblet]

...

ah

[uncut goblet]

so most of the 1% is all around use?

[thick oracle]

Who are 1% units

I did a comparison of them a while ago

[uncut goblet]

pilgrim overspec

[thick oracle]

#raid-planning message

[uncut goblet]

like siren she tops b1 and can be use like everydwhere

[thick oracle]

They're looking to redefine how banners work basically

[uncut goblet]

oooohhhh is that in a good way or in a bad way where they "encourage" players to pull for more

[knotty herald]

20 pulls xD

[slate marsh]

so 1 copy is enough right? I was thinking of pulling MLB for the lobby

[humble arch]

Don't forget about limited Big 3 Nikkes
Summer Helm is recently comes to mind, but only Sanis, Xmaiden, and XLudmillia are the only one you should care about on a general basis

Ever since rouge it's been the same tribe tower team for Tetra

[knotty herald]

1 is enough

Raven is worth more

[slate marsh]

really

[humble arch]

Even Raven might be one copy

[knotty herald]

I mean she worth more copies than Eve, if you want to

[humble arch]

Nah I'd rather hedge for 3rd anni being UR Liliweiss

[fluid canopy]

i've tried some team against armstrong (Z.E.U.S) in shooting range AKA her strongest

Eve's OL:

• Ele 95%
• Crit dmg 9%
• crit rate 8%
  Skill: 10-4-10

i feel better put Eve with Miranda because big pp crit dmg, then pair with Helm because

• Helm gives crit rate 15%
• Survivalbility
• Nuke damage + 1-bullet crit rate miranda for Helm

Snow white is selfish one, if no core, SW damage could be plummeted

[olive drum]

[fluid canopy]

comparing with Maxwell and Helm which supporting Eve

[uncut hinge]

Eve is so bad wtf

[unkempt goblet]

mhm

[uncut hinge]

Tested in union range 7/7/7 31% crit dmg (albeit no ele or atk), she got outdamaged by my siren

This is beyond bad

[fluid canopy]

hmm against electric one i get this with maids+siren

5,3B

[jade pewter]

at least

4 rocks wasted help you learn your lesson

[jaunty hollow]

she is ok

higher dmg then RH

i assume she will be pretty good for the solo raid coming up

[sick eagle]

SSS butt tier in battlefield, that's all that matters

[uncut hinge]

Someone is smoking weed

[uncut hinge]

She’s anything but higher dmg than rh

[sick eagle]

Ironically, red is better

Red outfit that is

[uncut hinge]

People watch sky video and immediately assume she’s better than rh when in reality she’s like 60-70% of rh dps

[sick eagle]

Hmm?

So if I was almost killing Ultra with RapiOs and RH

Then took Eve and brought her up to RH or better OLs, skills, doll

She'd... do worse when I replace RH with her?

[uncut hinge]

Yes

Especially on ultra ai

You miss on rh double dmg

[humble yoke]

you would miss all the core breakpoints

[sick eagle]

RIP

[humble yoke]

[sick eagle]

So far she's T9Ms 4/4/4 only, maybe I should save for Raven

[uncut hinge]

This is from sky discord. Guy with similar ele in both

Rh shits on eve

70 ele eve 80 ele rh

Sky vid is ultra bait

[sick eagle]

What the hell. I turned on Screen Shake for the first time in forever, because why know?

Then I manual played Alice just now. Every shot is an earthquake off the scale.

[uncut hinge]

Try bursting with red hood

With screen shake on

[torpid iris]

whats the lines of this how many crit lines

[ember kiln]

Who? RapiH yeah

Eve? in which world?

[rotund drift]

She's not good

[hybrid spoke]

65k CP difference also seems like bait

Either way, comparisons with the pilgrims is pointless

[rotund drift]

You kinda need 4 crit lane OL or crit rate buffer like Maids to make her work

[hybrid spoke]

We know we're using RH and Rapi, no question

She needs to be compared to the other iron DPS units

SW, Maxwell, Laplace

[rotund drift]

Try with Maids

[hybrid spoke]

And yeah, my question is if she'll steal maids from SBS this coming raid

[uncut hinge]

Can tell you his rh is suboptimal cuz I know what dmg rh does with good stats

[hybrid spoke]

I doubt his Eve is even suboptimal then

[rotund drift]

Or anything with crit really

[uncut hinge]

I mean if we are going to make teams catered to same unit might as well make maids eve vs crown naga rh

Because maids do not pair well with rh

You basically say “gimp rh as much as possible while pumping buffs to Eve”

[hybrid spoke]

RH will be with Grave and/or Tiga, and Rapi with Crown. Eve will be team 3-5 content, so not much point comparing to T1/2 units imo

[uncut hinge]

Tbh Eve is a rapi team unit

[hybrid spoke]

If SW is used, I can see it

[ember kiln]

Grave is for snow

Rh mari

[hybrid spoke]

Otherwise, I feel like Maxwell would be better for Rapi

[ember kiln]

Cindy blanc

[hybrid spoke]

Cindy is cope imo

Iron has too many solid comp possibilities to fit neutral in unless boss has no core/parts

[ember kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-snow-white-gif-18178186265415551072

Basically

[rotund drift]

This unit works

Just scales on crit a lot

A fucking lot

[ember kiln]

Who wanna pull 300 rocks on eve?

[sly cradle]

My friend already got almost perfect line with 20 rocks

[slender vector]

maids might be the way to go? miranda too but cant fit snow white here since eve will steal crit buff

[twin wharf]

wrong unit to spend the luck on

[sly cradle]

Daily discourage to play

[sly cradle]

Sadly he has everything good

[ember kiln]

Rapi Is too much for her, low the tier, try Laplace or Soline

[rotund drift]

Shooting range bad testing ground cus rapi strong against core but thats her advantage

[ember kiln]

Well only against no core parts rapi has low dmg

Parts is rapi stonk

[uncut hinge]

Try running Eve rh crown rapi Mast

If rh and eve stats are similar

If Eve can’t beat rh on her optimal grounds, then she’s mid

[hallow minnow]

With rapi/crown/eve/rh/Helm.. rh out damages eve.. for me.. with maids (for crown/helm) eve out damages RH

I think if i get better ol she can be on par with rh

[slow walrus]

obviously the shift up CEO cannot have eve be as strong as w.asuka

ugh...

[slender vector]

eve is 10/7/10 94 ele and 6.98 crit C1 redhood is 10/10/10 91 ele 17 attack C7

[hasty nebula]

red hood has seen better days

[fluid canopy]

i will put Eve with Miranda rather to put on maids

[brisk veldt]

Would you guys say that for people like me who have been unsuccessful in getting red hood in the past year, Eve would be a great pickup to have a iron dps? Or are there other better alternatives?

[fluid canopy]

Eve doing great with specific comps, which Crit buffer

the problem is, Crit DMG in this game is too underwhelming

[jade pewter]

Eve will be great against Runway

Ultra? May be use Laplace instead

[olive drum]

The thing that debuffs charge speed?

[jade pewter]

no, the Iron weak with no part no core

and jump around a lot

[olive drum]

Ohhh

yeah

I hate that jumpy guy

[jade pewter]

in a mean time, Red Hood will have to pierce A LOT to even match Raven

Chad Villain vs virgin Protagonist

[fluid canopy]

Diggie can do, if you have aim issue to pierce core

[zealous swallow]

Yep

[zealous swallow]

Just get raven

[zealous swallow]

Midhood

[jade pewter]

[zealous swallow]

redhood without piercing is not even close to Eve

[unkempt epoch]

Crazy senpai better than her kouhai

[fluid canopy]

eve is mid because

• Crit dmg is not great in this game
• Current crit buffers has no good synergy with DPS

Shift Up trying to cook crit-based comps, experiment it wit Eve as main DPS

[uncut hinge]

That’s like not true at all lol, already few screenshots provided above that show that with similar stats and mast which benefits Eve and not RH, RH still outperforms her

[hasty nebula]

critting is really good just building the stat is awful

easily fixed with a character that gives the stat in spades

volume treasure when

[sick eagle]

I couldn't resist Eve butt bait

6C, SR15, 10/10/10
81.6% ele
13.22% atk
20.17% crdmg
4.69% crrate

Do not be fooled by the 2:44 battle time. That was a second or two from Ultra poison spraying everybody to death (covers down, shields down, and mid-RH burst).

[hallow minnow]

raven will save us 🙏🏻

[jade pewter]

that 100% crit buff was be super broken in Destiny Child

but not in here

actually she would be even better if crit ignored defense

[sick eagle]

She seems alright. If someone really wanted to, they could give her 100% ele, 50% atk, 60% crdmg

[fluid canopy]

44% atk is good

[sick eagle]

... expensive as hell, but mine was only 81% ele, 13% atk, 20% crdmg

I can easily see Eve "breaking the critical threshold" like MiharaOs does - no, I don't mean critical rate/dmg. Like critical mass.

[halcyon dew]

Don't we still need 100% crit rate?

[fluid canopy]

Mihara doesn't have built in crit rate unfortunately

[fluid canopy]

90% crit rate is enough

Eve 75%
helm buff 14%
OL 8%

[sick eagle]

Maid Mast on same team as Eve is actually quite good, as long as she has one drunk stack at all, Eve gets 20% crrate.

[fluid canopy]

that 96% crit rate

[halcyon dew]

Does the loss in dmg for not having 100% crit rate scale linearly with loss of crit rate from 100%?

[sick eagle]

She'll lose it at end of the full drunk stacks Full burst so for about 2-3 seconds Eve won't have the buff - assuming team quickly fills burst meter

[jade pewter]

the structure for her S1 dmg goes like this

720% x crit chance / 44. Therefore, going from 75% => 100% means you increase your S1 dmg by 33% already, not to mention the crit dmg extra too. In total, it should gain around 66% dmg total

While ATK buff can be 58% true, but 58% on top of 50% ~ 100% already means you only gain 53 ~ 36% dmg only

long story short: Chase crit and crit dmg

[halcyon dew]

I likely gonna use maids sbs eve this raid might ditch the devil

[jade pewter]

don't fall for atk trap

[halcyon dew]

Over atk OL?

[jade pewter]

yes

[halcyon dew]

[sick eagle]

It depends

[fluid canopy]

that's why I rather put eve is paired with miranda than maids

[final cipher]

[sick eagle]

CrRate maxes out at 100%

1 Maid Mast is 20% crrate already

Eve only needs 5% more

[sick eagle]

And if you insist on Miranda, you can MirandaT + Eve + HelmT and Eve will get 15% crrate from Helm for normal hits (good enough?)

[fluid canopy]

yes, i tried

[sick eagle]

In that case, only needs 10% more to hit 100%, or can ignore

[jade pewter]

no need to reach 100%

[sick eagle]

So safest: 5% crrate, or ignore

[sick eagle]

Go Ele, CrDmg, Atk

[jade pewter]

my point is, Eve scales better on crit and crit dmg

so even in situation where ATK gives better result

the diff won't be that heavy

[sick eagle]

Ah

[halcyon dew]

Just grab whatever I get i guess

[jade pewter]

while crit and crit dmg in good situation will bloom even better

[sick eagle]

Makes sense

[halcyon dew]

[jade pewter]

a mix between crit, crit dmg and ATK

[sick eagle]

And there's a leeway of 5%-10% crrate before it's wasted with the units

[jade pewter]

very easy to build char

the diff may push her from 55% of Rapi to

I don't know

60%?

[sick eagle]

110% of Rapi butt

[jade pewter]

still saving rocks for Ravenclaw

[fluid canopy]

Eve with maids: 571k (without liter buff), 817k with liter buff

[jade pewter]

the true genius

[fluid canopy]

while with miranda you can get 1,03M

that's onburst

[jade pewter]

if only she shot 24/s

[fluid canopy]

then you can get extra damage from Grave since she has 85% crit

[jade pewter]

Eve should be a god damn SMG

like K

well she's triple stronger than K

[final cipher]

doggy

[fluid canopy]

1,03 x 24
that's 24,72M/s

yeah looks low

[halcyon dew]

Do you know what % of rapipi is sbs?

[fluid canopy]

while rapipi can do around 50M damage/s on burst

[jade pewter]

I don't, cuz they shine in different teams

[halcyon dew]

Aight

[jade pewter]

for Rapi, Liter Crown HelmTr MastM
for SBS, Siren Crown HelmTr Crust

actually not sure about HelmTr in SBS

Crust 60% da goat

[halcyon dew]

Hmm crust is bis for sbs?

[jade pewter]

but same standard Liter Crown HelmTr, SBS should deal 70% of Rapi

SBS with Alice btw

[fluid canopy]

sbs with mana

[jade pewter]

non Alice SBS is probably around Eve

[fluid canopy]

oh, for wind weak

[jade pewter]

best bossing unit, they said

we are in Midhara, Rapi, Cindy, Raven era now

[fluid canopy]

last gluttony raid, they ditch sbs

[jade pewter]

it's inevitable

she has gacha skin

[halcyon dew]

That's worse than I thought

[umbral heath]

got one for collection purpose
still mid ?

[zealous swallow]

Up to the increase S1 by 33% was correct. But after that was just a massive leap

Its also 90% with HelmTr or 95% with Mast

So you just get 5-10% more from going to 100% crit from OL

Also just increase S1 damage by that amount, not the whole overal damage

[final cipher]

@unkempt epoch

can you add Eve Raven in tier list

[jade pewter]

true, that was Napkin math. Base Eve should scale a bit better on ATK, as I written in the 3x ATK.

Assuming non buff, 58% ATK gives her 39% more dmg overall, while 25% crit left gives 30% dmg.

But on Liter, Crown and HelmTr, I only put Helm crit rate at 51.9% uptime, because I don't manual her If you feel like it, good for you.

That team has bloated amount of ATK, averagely 61% ATK (50% uptime of Liter buff + Crown self ATK reduced by 33%). On top of 50 ~ 100% ATK self buff of Eve, which means the equation becomes 58% ATK bonus on top of 111% ~ 161% ATK buff.

This translates into 34.3% ~ 26.5% dmg up. This means, final overall dmg of Eve will be: 28 ~ 29% up.

Because in my equation, Helm only provides 7% crit buff (51% uptime) so I can go more crit rate till 100% in average

[zealous swallow]

Yeah i just mean 25% more crit rate giving 66% more damage is way too off

[jade pewter]

true, I thought the dilute only reduces the 33% into 25%

in fact it goes down into 11%

caught me by surprise there

[zealous swallow]

No, this is napkin math

[grand sparrow]

she took 130 pulls from me, she better be good 🤡

[humble yoke]

[shy verge]

So one copy is enough for eve and raven?

[zealous swallow]

Eve is good

Good off burst damage too

If you can break parts

[hybrid spoke]

For collabs we should use a rating scale of Chainsaw Man to Asuka

[zealous swallow]

Raven 9 / W. Asuka i guess

[hybrid spoke]

Seems silly always seeing collab units compared to Pilgrims

[halcyon dew]

AsukaW is 10 here?

[hybrid spoke]

She's the best collab unit by far

[halcyon dew]

Isn't raven just a better sus dps than mihara and mihara doesn't beat asukaW?

[zealous swallow]

Yes and yes?

[halcyon dew]

Doesn't that make raven stronger than asukaW? oh you meant mihara doesn't beat asukaW

I rephrased my questions and I confused myself

Aight

[zealous swallow]

[final remnant]

whats a good campaign team for eve?

[hasty nebula]

crown rapi siren alice eve

if you can replace eve with naga or helm that would be better

[shy verge]

Eunhwa,milk,Isabel crow and eve

[hasty nebula]

it's better to build a competent 4 man team and tag eve along for the ride

than it is to build something stupid that deals way less damage but caters to eve

[final remnant]

you could be way over the power limit and still lose

[final remnant]

yeah thats what im looking for

[hasty nebula]

yeah just any top tier team with crown and rapi

[final remnant]

Current

[hasty nebula]

kick off sbs and put in eve if you really want eve along for the ride

[shy verge]

Wtf

[final remnant]

Yes sir

Bye sbs u will be missed

[shy verge]

Kick siren and switch with eve

[hasty nebula]

you don't want to lose rapi's dmg

[final remnant]

No I paid good money for that gacha

[shy verge]

I want lose

[hasty nebula]

you can also only use eve and nobody else

that's a fast loss

[shy verge]

[final remnant]

Self sabotage now?

[shy verge]

Eve buff yesssssss

[final remnant]

i hope

[hasty nebula]

mine is almost twice the size

twice the buff

[shy verge]

Mihara OS buff

[hot iron]

39% elem Eve vs 90% elem RH

[shy verge]

Ele ,attack,and critical damage?

[rich nebula]

how much crit rate does eve needs from buffs and gears

[hot iron]

RH ihas 20% attack

[cosmic venture]

thats a whole toilet paper math

literally used the whole roll

[severe heart]

@rich nebula 80 at s1 10. Need 5% a single line to cap with maids

[zealous swallow]

High quality

[twin wharf]

so is she mid or is she good

[mellow ridge]

good enough for iron weak content

not good enough for neutral content

[hasty lynx]

she's ||lobby|| meta fr

[twin wharf]

doesn't even show ass in lb

how is it meta

[shy verge]

Btw su fix midhara skin lobby?

[hasty lynx]

Swaying tiddies

Ass is there too on the back

[halcyon dew]

Pointy

[rotund drift]

• Decent damage dealer if built well (incl. crits and/or paired with crit buffers).
• Probably only work on Electric bosses.

[thick oracle]

Not bad

[waxen garnet]

How’s the at least half day analysis on Eve at this time, how high is her overall usage?

And has she already got a skill priority or all 10s?

[ornate thicket]

She is raid specific, like all units that don't break the celling nowadays to be fair.
S1 is 10. S2 & S3 are 7/10 depending on if you have the ressource / want tiny bit more damage.

[uncut goblet]

anyone here mlb eve or waiting for raven?

[waxen garnet]

Atk element and ammo for Eve ofc?

Or she needs some crit ones?

[mossy jackal]

I MLB’d her. I just love the character tbh. Feels bad she’s only mid at best. …Y’all think SU will buff her?

[uncut goblet]

I think SU will keep collab nikke mid at best? To not fill people with FOMUs

[hasty nebula]

she's mid at worst too

as for buffs

you already paid

why would they buff her your money is gone

[burnt oracle]

Check the pin, it should give u a sense of desired lines priority

Crit is bonus it seem starting from 0 as suggested, any crit line is bonus

[waxen garnet]

So build like Modernia

[burnt oracle]

Build like a standard dps with high priority in ele and atk (however some say atk is tricky since she might or might not want it)

1-2 ammo is nice quality of gameplay (medium prio)
0-2 crit cuz why not (if see at 3rd line, keep perhaps)

[charred haven]

Does she really need max ammo

[jade pewter]

nope

[burnt oracle]

Any complaint pls send directly too [e-mail] , i just interpreted his pin

[rain tide]

Just roll a few elemental lines

You wont use her anywhere outside of sr

Mid unit

[graceful nexus]

So I'm reading Eve is a 10/7/10 skill set unit? Also she's niche only to SR only?

[thick oracle]

Maybe 1 ammo I think is good

Cuz ammo scaling is good

There has to be a point where crit dmg is worse than ammo/rate

[jade pewter]

yeah, 5th crit dmg is worse than ammo

[thick oracle]

[thick oracle]

What about crit rate

[jade pewter]

the 101% crit rate

[thick oracle]

Isn't it 60+15 = 75% base crit rate?

So you need 25%

[jade pewter]

7% max per line

so even 4 lines are enough for 100%

[half plaza]

[knotty herald]

How can Eve be mid?

Did NIKKE's game devs hating on Stellar Blade's game devs or something?

Same company, different departments.

[hasty nebula]

people cried about the previous collabs being too strong

the devs listened

and now you have this

[pale shard]

https://tenor.com/view/devs-listened-wuwa-genshin-could-never-gif-6459591100973185639

Her damage is great for a unit that's not from half anni, anni, or new years tho

[ornate thicket]

Collab. People need to understand that a collab unit, doesn't matter what collab, will be in-between mid to high tier.
It was stated by SU and it make sense.
People would explode if they FOMO'ed the hell out of collab with meta tier units

[pale shard]

Nothing to complain about IMO

[hasty nebula]

both eve and raven have a niche that will be used for years as long as they bring it out

[knotty herald]

Which bitch cry about it

[tall fox]

she's dealing rh dps tier in 2025 w/o crit or whatever w/o that, kinda looks like iron xlud

[proud locust]

😭

[half plaza]

True but

iron

[twin wharf]

Wasuka incident won't happen again

[jade pewter]

it will escalate into Raven

[unreal cypress]

Didn't they do that with eva?

[hybrid isle]

Now the real question is, do you go for the gacha skin for more jiggle physics or not

[hallow minnow]

As a ps5 user.. I am glad the scarlet skin looks so ass

[severe compass]

I hate the green latex pants so might ass well

[ember kiln]

Bad excuse for your gambling addiction, the free skin is already different

[half plaza]

it doesn't

[deep coral]

pull or no pull?

[dapper dragon]

Pull if you like going for solo raid score

[deep coral]

what about interception? I am playing since 2.5 anni

[dapper dragon]

If you have red hood and rapi rh then you can probably skip, if you dont have them then you can consider pulling

[deep coral]

yeah have both

[unkempt goblet]

she needs s1 lvl 10 for 100% cr

[slow walrus]

That's what I'd like to know What's the point of having shit collabs, let people have variety lmao

[strange cypress]

I only cried about the collab being bad.

[hallow minnow]

It's dumb.. especially cause they can rerun whenever they want.. could have made her a little better.. game feels in boring cycle atm..

Dps/b3 come out every Solo Raid. They do decent damage if you 4x ele/attack OL them on that SR.. but rarely get used anywhere else.

Would rather see more supports that support the different dmg types like true/sustained dmg etc.

Maids were the most useful/interesting non pilgrim unit(s) this year

[trail quiver]

140 no eve💀

[patent trail]

took 62 pulls to get her

[uncut goblet]

One image to sum it all up?

[unkempt goblet]

took me 40 to get her

[thorny fiber]

Same

[hybrid spoke]

Problem with that is that supports are so tightly pretermined right now that you basically need a Pilgrim or duo to actually push anyone out

[unkempt epoch]

75%

[unkempt goblet]

ah

[stuck moon]

what should her skills be?

[sick eagle]

I think pins got it

[stuck moon]

thanks

[hasty lynx]

It’s okay one acc of mine took 210 for one eve

[hollow hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/despair-suffer-suffering-sad-sad-quotes-gif-14270258133567956444

[high root]

Did 1 reroll and got perfect slots

[pale shard]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[final cipher]

I just went to last phase even before I kill 2nd core

[thick oracle]

Ditch mast go helm

Mast is mid

Or well idk actually with eve

[final cipher]

wdym mid

[thick oracle]

liter helm was way better for me than siren mast

on ultra

[final cipher]

eh im not sure about that

[rotund drift]

Ravens gonna be SS at least

Siren Crown Rapipi Raven HelmTr/MastM letsgo

[hallow minnow]

Raven can replace redhood on ultra?

[jade pewter]

can. The situation will be like Rapi + Mihara against Nvidia

[ember kiln]

crown b1cdr rapi Eve helmT/shem/mast?

[stuck moon]

i have both eve, maxwell and normal sw, who is better between the three for pve

[jaunty hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974958674932039730/1359874809726501065/QQWW.gif

[jaunty hollow]

still thou.......... eve is like Kim's daughter

dude was just posting about mod community being weak just now since none of the mod can match the detail & quality of offical skin yet

[sick eagle]

I want to say bring something else You do have other units?

[stuck moon]

i have other units like alice yea

[sick eagle]

I started writing a 10 page essay but aborted it. Snow White is best if you're a hardcore tech pro that likes taking advantage of every little mechanical detail.

Maxwell is an easier version of Snow White.

Eve if you hate the idea for Snow White or Maxwell.

[fluid canopy]

easier ver + support skill

[hollow hatch]

Still holding back

Eve worth c7 or nah?

Got 5% cash back on my card

[hasty nebula]

yes if you want to be the best solo raid player

go c7 her

it will be harder to be the best without core max

[uncut hinge]

360 pulls no Eve js

At around 360-370 pulled 2 from singles and I don’t think I want to continue

[hasty nebula]

shift up's most loyal iron raider

giving up on iron?

[uncut hinge]

Actually I’m giving up on sponsoring them to shaft me when it matters the most

Ticket Raven lb0 call it a day

[trail quiver]

😬

this always happens to me on collabs pretty much too

i got fucked on re zero eva 2.0 and this collab

got fucked on maids

same with rapi, got only 1 banner pull compared to the usual of 2 average

i only have 315 gold tix rn

[knotty herald]

👀

[shy verge]

Where

[halcyon dew]

It’s K, probably typo

[hasty nebula]

typo? he's trolling

[halcyon dew]

I mean prydwen staff typo

Unless he edited the pic

[hasty nebula]

that

[halcyon dew]

Did he

[shy verge]

[knotty herald]

[desert shadow]

should i use mileage for eve

[thick oracle]

If you don't have pulls, I'd save it for raven

[proud locust]

Weak

Mileage everyone

Use your life savings if you must

[slow walrus]

If u like eve I guess... but she isn't exactly mileage worthy

[manic forge]

how is she?

[thick oracle]

60% of Rh

[final cipher]

final test

I managed a strat to speed run and make RH deals more DMG

[jade pewter]

60% RH is worse than hero

[thick oracle]

well i mean

its

[jade pewter]

heroes is 80% on non ATK buff team. On strong ATK buff team (MastM), she matches Red due to higher multiplier

[thick oracle]

pierce unit

[final cipher]

At this point I would say

EVE is like XGuillo

But useable in UR

Meanwhile XGuillo isn't

niche but strong enough for elemental

[bronze wagon]

so i build eve for iron sr and ur if rapi is going to fire?

[high root]

Basically yeah

[final cipher]

It depends

Example for next UR

[bronze wagon]

or rh+raven would go to ur

[final cipher]

Rapi would likely to do Bowtie

[bronze wagon]

[final cipher]

Then Eve goes GD

Cause you want Rapi to do more dmg on 100% uptime core

Than shooting 1:30 coreless on GD

It's a flexible situation

[bronze wagon]

||it’d be funny if you can just ignore all of gd qte because of sync||

[final cipher]

I have been doing that since UR5

Sync 36x

Hard mode idk the sync break point but surely I can too

[uncut hinge]

At sync 730 you can ignore everything lmao

[uncut hinge]

Maid mast doesn’t benefit rh much

[final cipher]

Tell me a better unit then

[uncut hinge]

Naga

Or Helm T

[final cipher]

Ofcourse you havent tried

[sick eagle]

How does Maid Mast not benefit RH much?

I had to use her with RH to clear Anomaly Ultra

[uncut hinge]

No I mean everyone posting results with Eve + mast when mast is legit bumping Eve dmg crazy due to her kit, while she doesn’t benefit rh that much. Atk dmg or core dmg values from helm/naga are better for rh than the self atk buff + crit from mast

[final cipher]

There's no point using HelmT when you already had RH there

And Naga is straight ass cause you will break core really fast and lead to dmg loss

[uncut hinge]

https://youtu.be/Yd_XaRCI2hE?feature=shared

[final cipher]

Nah don't show Naga clear to prove she's better than Mast

You use Naga but you avoid shooting core, literally no impact there

[uncut hinge]

Need Maxwell overkill dmg

As for helm T

Laplace is 85/10 so she’s outperforming Eve with mast

Run is similar, only 3 sec difference

[sick eagle]

Idk, I feel like that the odds are in favor of the 2:30 battle time kill with RH and Laplace doing a faster kill if you replaced HelmT with MMast

The Naga one is special, it relies on Maxwell overkill, so Naga is very suitable for that comp

[uncut hinge]

Mast will benefit your rapi not rh. You see the dmg difference between my rapi and his is 300m and that’s mainly on mast (+ Eve dmg taken up). But the idea here is to talk about comps catered to specific unit. And mast is definitely not catered to rh

[final cipher]

You dont need that, simply use another B2 then you can keep shooting the core with RH

Buff from Mast will affect on core and body shots in the time

Meanwhile

You shoot into body with NAGA buff on RH

Just to make MW deals more dmg

[uncut hinge]

Well I still hit the core as many times as possible (one time I even destroyed it on accident before Maxwell shoot)

To maximize the overkill dmg

I mean @final cipher I agree with your take on Eve that she’s like xguillo

Not trying to argue with that

Just saying that the team comp with mast benefits Eve and rapi a lot more than it benefits rh

In a solo raid iron weak with core, would you run rh with Eve and mast?

If we want to talk team comp benefiting this is what a real red hood benefitting comp looks like (and actually you should replace rapi with Dkw but it will nerf the overall dmg)

[final cipher]

You can't say that when we're talking about AI Ultra

[uncut hinge]

See pic above

Dkw instead rapi would translate to 3.5+b or higher

I’m actually tempted to hop in game and do a run with Dkw

@final cipher @sick eagle here’s the rh comp

Yes less dmg changing rapi with Dkw so takes more time to kill and more burst rotations but since we are talking about comps catered to units I wanted to just jump in

This is why I don’t like Eve vs rh dmg comparisons on ultra AI especially when people run mast

[final cipher]

Ok buddy

[hallow minnow]

Is ultra the hardest or 2nd hardest boss to 9 stage? i am 395lvl atm (started at rezero collab) and can fully clear kraken and get very close to full clear harvester/MC.. but indivilla/Ultra are a ways off

My Laplace has favorite weapon but no OL.. worth investing in her to get rank 9? or just go with eve (mlb) and try to get better OL rolls.. cause currently Siren/Crown/Rapi/RH/Helm>Rapi/Crown/Eve/RH/Helm or Mast for me

[hollow hearth]

From the ss posted no way eve is good for ultra, ultra kinda strange ai coz u need kill core in certain times otherwise ur dmg will drop by like 1-2 bill

[halcyon dew]

Eve raid only unit

[ember kiln]

After seeing all the feedback about Eve

I decided to build Laplace

After Raven of course

[uncut hinge]

[hasty lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-laplace-nikke-laplace-gif-16509975402800916478

squirrel girl supremacy

[shy verge]

I decided build crow than eve

[sick eagle]

Idk about ranking the boss difficulties. If it’s clear order, I cleared Ultra last, so should I say it’s 1st hardest?

I think it has a lot to do with investments and roll luck. A lot of us have good Wind units, so Kraken is our pinata.

[sick eagle]

Eve is passable for Ultra. Because, she still debuffs Ultra. So Red Hood + Eve, for example, is not too crazy of an idea.

I did this. I built Eve and cleared Ultra using Crown, RapiOs (B1), Red Hood, Eve, Maid Mast.

My Red Hood is 85% ele, 9% atk. I didn’t improve her at all while building Eve. I didn’t want to invest in Laplace or upgrade Red Hood. A warning to anyone thinking of copying what I did, I had c6 RapiOs, c7 Red Hood, c6 Eve.

[uncut hinge]

Have you tried running Maxwell with rh?

[sick eagle]

Tried, but my Maxwell isn’t good at all and it appeared convincing that I’d need to upgrade Maxwell

Videos of others clearing with Maxwell isn’t them trying with a 0% ele and 0% atk OL’d Maxwell

Obviously, they bring a decently or better OL’d Maxwell

[lilac cove]

What teams can I make for Eve? I sadly do not have Pirate Mast

[fluid canopy]

miranda-grave-EVE-helm-shelm

[lilac cove]

I don't have either Miranda or S.Helm

I do have grave and Helm though

what are some other options?

hello?

I have crown, Red hood, Red Rapi and helm

[shy verge]

Crown,RRH,RH,Eve,HelmT

[fluid canopy]

one ultimate team: yeah above

split it for solo raid, hmm shelm change with DKW

miranda rush treasure, but not necessarry if you feel expensive

[lilac cove]

helmt?

is that normal helm?

[lilac viper]

Helm Treasure

[lilac cove]

so summer helm?

[lilac viper]

Normal

[lilac cove]

ahh

normal helm I do have

[lilac viper]

But what about her Treaasure

[lilac cove]

her what now?

Treasure?

[lilac viper]

Like check what doll you have on her

[lilac cove]

doll?

how do I acquire dolls?

[lilac viper]

Through Solo Raid and Dispatches

[lilac cove]

so this team should be enough for Eve?

[sick eagle]

I finally took time to do a bunch of shooting range tests. Eve can beat Red Hood by a fair bit.

• No parts, or parts with bad piercing scenarios (e.g., shoots through part but there's no body to also hit)
• Cores irrelevant as long as it's not a "part with a core" that allows good piercing scenario.

Nothing new, I think, that others didn't also discover earlier in this thread...
In other words, if you think you will face the situation above, investing in Eve is better than investing in Red Hood.

• But that's too unrealistically narrow - Red Hood is far more flexible and useful

[lilac cove]

hey mate, sorry to disturb ya, but do you know if the team above should be good for Eve?

[sick eagle]

What team?

Oh

I didn't see the replied-to message for a sec

[lilac cove]

my apologies

[sick eagle]

Actually, that's one of the teams I tested. It's good for Eve

[lilac cove]

oh so I should be fine, as long as I get the treasure for helm?

[sick eagle]

The problem is, it's a one-comp wonder... what about the other 2 or 4 comps?

[lilac cove]

oh

ummm

I am on the more casual side

just doing the story is enough for me

I don't bother with pvp

[sick eagle]

Well, it indeed will maximize your best Irons, but for something like two hits in UR or five hits in Solo Raid, you'll probably want to move RapiOs to a second comp (or move Eve & Red Hood)

Since, RapiOs as B3 does far more damage than she can as B1

Because Siren likes MGs, you'll probably be using Siren + Crown + RapiOs

[lilac cove]

I sadly do not have Siren

[sick eagle]

And there's people experimenting with MirandaT + Eve

They might try MirandaT + Eve + MMast (to give Eve more CrRate and CrDmg)

The problem with that is deprivation of slots for a B1 CDR or B2... you're stuck with something like MirandaT + Eve + MMast + SHelm

[lilac cove]

I also do not have Miranda

no pirate mast either

[sick eagle]

There's probably going to be a solo raid ranker that runs zero ATK OLs on Eve and go MirandaT + Snow White + Eve + B2 + Flex. That's an Eve with Ele%, CrDmg%, and CrRate% only

This lets Snow White with strong enough OLs have more Atk than Eve, and share MirandaT with Eve. Eve having Atk OLs bricks this approach

[sick eagle]

Anyways, I think that your comp will be fine

[lilac cove]

Thank you kindly

[bronze wagon]

so is eve worth sr 5'ing asap?

[knotty herald]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/guide-eve

reroll

[jade pewter]

nice, you just used your luck on Eve

what's left for Ravenclaw?

[knotty herald]

That is the only max ammo line

my Eve have 4 ele, 4 crit dmg, and 0 atk xD

[thick oracle]

You should save for raven

There's no point rolling on eve rn

Especially cuz she's probably the weaker DPS upcoming raid

[knotty herald]

I'm done for Eve.

[ember kiln]

Eve p6 solo raid

[twin wharf]

thanks to eve, i can save up more now

[bronze wagon]

but is she worth sr-5'ing because of how weak sauce she is?

i can either sr15 raven or sr5 both

[hybrid spoke]

If she ends up used with SW, doll upgrades risk pushing her past SW's ATK

[thick oracle]

Sr15 raven r0 eve

Then later sr5 eve when you have extra mats

[bronze wagon]

i also need to sr15 some of the common coop units now that coop is actually sweaty

[thick oracle]

You're recruiting?

[bronze wagon]

yes

[thick oracle]

How many people

[bronze wagon]

1

[thick oracle]

I saw some 541 guy lying around

[bronze wagon]

[thick oracle]

Wait lemme hook you up

[bronze wagon]

yea i don't put this nickname just for fun, son

[thick oracle]

Pinged you in omni

Sea is so free ngl

[uncut hinge]

Lmao

[knotty herald]

I sea it.

[bronze wagon]

but seriously, is eve really that underwhelming?

mostly debating if she's 1 copy pull

[final cipher]

She's promax Siren without cdr

[uncut hinge]

Dw whatever you do will be better than what some people here did. For example this guy with the purple name who did 360 pulls for 0 eve copies and now has no resources for Raven

[knotty herald]

Raven will be SS

[bronze wagon]

if eve is also mid, i can even skip her skin pass

[final cipher]

It's default or gacha skin

Only way to see her booty

[uncut hinge]

Neurolink is actually her best skin

You don’t see her full booty but you have a nice view regardless and her thighs are fully naked. + her tap animation is peak

[knotty herald]

Naked suit is so dumb

SU is smart, reselling a default skin from Stellar Blade at a price of 60$

that skin exist since first chapter of the game

[hasty lynx]

No doubt but the jiggles on the skin suit is ridonkulous

[uncut goblet]

ooof

[sick eagle]

@uncut hinge I think there's no secret surprise for Eve, just that she can debuff the boss which means her Iron partner will do more damage, and that basically keeps her somewhat relevant in content wanting multiple Iron dps teams. Imagine if she did Rapi Hood damage, and also debuffed the enemy to take more damage. Like if XLudmilla did Rapi Hood levels of damage

So XLudmilla is probably the best point of comparison for Eve

[uncut goblet]

so she's more of a supporter that debuff enemy and increase damage intake for iron partners?

[sick eagle]

subdps with these capabilities, yes

[uncut goblet]

imagine making your favorite anime more OP than the protag of ur own game :lul:

[sick eagle]

and to be technical, "any partners" not just Iron, but since the enemy is Electric... Iron would do more dps with high ele%

[uncut hinge]

I mean that’s what I expected from Eve to be honest. Just that my impulses got the best of me and I spent like an idiot trying to mlb her

And couldn’t even mlb her

After 375+ pulls

[jade pewter]

SABC

may be I should put DEAD

[uncut goblet]

sooo its more of the partner of cinderella i forgot her name

[sick eagle]

You’re probably thinking of Summer Anis or XMaiden

[uncut goblet]

grave

[sick eagle]

Lore-wise? I guess

[uncut goblet]

or yeah xmaiden

[sick eagle]

Because in gameplay, you don’t put Grave and Cinderella together (at least, not willingly)

[uncut goblet]

AHHHHH sorry2

yeah grave is more of helping snipers right

since she helps buff pierce

[sick eagle]

SAnis and XMaiden are too different

They’re not like Eve

SAnis is a supporter with really significant team buffs for Electric units

XMaiden is a defender with also significant team buffs for Electric units

Eve just has a 10% dmg taken increase debuff against Electric enemies

Eve is more comparable to XLudmilla for that reason, though XLudmilla debuffs enemies for 12% dmg taken increase and isn’t restricted to Electric enemies

[thick oracle]

There's no specific B2 for Cindy yet

That's the only slot missing really

500% hp buffer doko

[jade pewter]

only Sanis is true B3 buffer for Cinderella

Maiden is sitting duck on non electric weak boss

she gives ele

wow so strong on Wind boss

[thick oracle]

Who cares about neutral

Neutral DPS are dying

[uncut goblet]

hmmmm okay thanksss, i only got xlud last yr's xmas since im still new and havent enhance her yet, so technically they debuff enemies for damage taken to the nikke's which eve is also doing is that correct?

[sick eagle]

Yes. But for exact formula, check #research-results message

[uncut goblet]

OHHHHH snakeee snakeeee

[uncut goblet]

thankss sooo much 😄

hopefully raven would be like asuka like she's good for like the kraken

[hybrid spoke]

I think X Guillo is the safer comparison

Buffs still restricted to element and attacker with unfortunate DPS

[shy verge]

Mideve

[hasty lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

She gets a treasure unit like scarlet did

Surely

Running out of hyper cope pro max plus ultra

[uncut goblet]

treasure unit like scarlet??? wdym?

[hasty lynx]

Trina

???

[uncut goblet]

who is that pokemon

[hallow minnow]

Should have just made eve Electric.. really fk over the trina skippers

I hope raven is as good as people are saying.. tired of mid units.. i am scared its a bready situation and we get nerfs a couple hrs before release OR there is something the numbers people are missing (usually doesn't happen).. Actually is there even maintence this week? or does her banner just release on daily reset

[uncut goblet]

im 100% convince shift up will never make a meta collab, to avoid FOMO

[knotty herald]

Rei, Rei, Asuka, Asuka

[twin wharf]

*laugh in wasuka

[uncut goblet]

i mean i have those all but i think if you think from a new player's perspective, it really not a must get unlike rrh, cinderella etc

[twin wharf]

you're literally bricked in wind raid without her

[knotty herald]

yeah, but before Rapipi, Fire Asuka destroyed stages.

[twin wharf]

collab unit btw

[knotty herald]

now, she is still one of top raid unit

[twin wharf]

Fire Asuka is tanky, has good burst gen, good damage if core is available

all around good unit

[knotty herald]

Do you know about Gluttony's new bug? It's stopping me from killing the boss.

[jade pewter]

deal with it

[hybrid spoke]

Pilgrims aren't the only meta units

[uncut goblet]

yeah i use her on kraken too

[hybrid spoke]

It's honestly healthier for the game that collab units are weaker than Pilgrims

[uncut goblet]

to avoid FOMO?

[hybrid spoke]

Nah, to avoid having missed out

FOMO is how gacha games thrive

The problem is players who join afterward

They've already missed out

They'll look at guides for raid comps and see a bunch of units they can't get

Firweak raids have had that issue since NieR

"What do I do if I don't have 2B?" "Cry"

[uncut goblet]

i missed out chainsaw and nier but thankfully they gonna rerun nier

[hybrid spoke]

Then NGE part 1 made fire even more collab dependent

[uncut goblet]

hopefully they will give that nier 2b sexy custome

[hybrid spoke]

I'm expecting two new swimsuit alters + rerun units to milk as much money as possible

[knotty herald]

Go play Nier Reincarnation then.
Oh wait... the game is EoS.

[rotund drift]

Well Raven is strong

So good luck

[hybrid spoke]

I'll have her, so no problem for me

Also, it'll be another year until iron-weak raid, so

[ember kiln]

Once per year

[twin wharf]

yeah i saw it

[uncut hinge]

[hallow minnow]

Bro these mother fkers do skins that I still want (looking at u helm dress) that come out on pass and are then unavailable for 2 years.. they don't care about avoiding fomo

They just like doing stupid crap.. mihara being the 100th MG b3 fire dps is another example

Eve uses a sword too.. could have swapped her kit for raven.. who if the maths guys are right could be like SS to SSS bossing.. Maybe its 4D chess and they will make a busted Eve unit in 2.0 🤔

[hasty nebula]

these bitches didn't even do nier 2.0

gets a new contract just for a nier rerun

if the communiaty wants any collab buffed it's definitely 2b/a2

[knotty herald]

Me waiting for Megaman's collab

[hallow minnow]

Yeah doesn't make sense

I wasn't around for nier collab.. i probably will pick up a copy each.. but god damn if they buffed them.. instant mlb

IDK why we get 2x Eva collab with "new" characters we didn't want

But wont do it for Nier that i think made like 30m? 😭

[hybrid isle]

Ok but seriously, God damn the skin makes her thighs look twice as big

[hasty lynx]

She’s meta I said so

[unborn barn]

Its because of the cn version getting the collab i think. They already hv the license, might as well rerun on global as well

[hasty nebula]

yes it's because they are getting it but at that point they have the license

and you can work out buffs

[unborn barn]

Every relevant megaman character is male unfortunately, but i like the idea too

[hasty nebula]

of course shift up considers that effort and fuck that shit

[knotty herald]

I'm a long time fan of rockman and megaman, and I can assure you the series have more than 2 females for SU to use.

[hasty nebula]

megaman's wife

that's 1

[unborn barn]

One thing about buffing collab units is that ppl will then start asking to buff other older collab units as well, i dont think they wanna do that...

[hasty nebula]

bitch please

[unborn barn]

Megawoman

[hasty nebula]

nobody cares about chain saw man

makima is still used in today's meta too

so why would she need buffs

[unborn barn]

You dont want more unkillable makima in pvp who invuls 5 more times?

[hasty nebula]

this whole argument of 'we can't have 1 good thing because then people want more good things'

is ridiculous

[unborn barn]

I do want power to be stronger tho

Totally no use that unit lol

[unborn barn]

Im not arguing lol, just im thinkin thats probably what SUs thinking

[unborn barn]

Me too, but yeah, the only chars i can see getting in are iris and alia, since mmx is the biggest of the franchise, but even they are not that popular, maybe leviathan and ciel if somehow mmz gets it?

[hallow minnow]

Wait if CN is getting nier collab.. that probably means they are getting buffed versions right?

Maaan if SU/tencent buff 2b on CN and SU leave her the same on global.. get ready for some meltdowns

[hybrid isle]

Before thinking about what franchise they can collab with you need to ask yourself first who they belong to

Megaman is still owned by Capcom so I don't really think we are seeing them outside of games like Monster Hunter and SF

[knotty herald]

Capcom, from my childhood, to depressing adult.

[unborn barn]

Overwatch had a street fighter collab recently u know, so that limitation is gone

[hybrid isle]

You cannot compare OW with Nikke tho

I mean, what the fuck is going on with OW with all of their recent collabs

[unborn barn]

Its more i think megaman not getting any recent activity, so no reason to cross promote... but man the setting is perfect for a nikke collab

[knotty herald]

Yeah

[unborn barn]

They wanna become fortnite

[knotty herald]

Rockman is ancestor of android in gaming.

[hybrid isle]

Fornite is a being of its own

Fornite is now competing with Roblox if anything

[knotty herald]

Yeah there is astro boy

but it's on comic side

Collab with rockman should be a priority xD

[unborn barn]

Roblox collab then haha

That oof sound in nikke will be funny

[knotty herald]

If roblox touch NIKKE, I will uninstall the game!

[unborn barn]

[knotty herald]

and nuke my city.

and blame the French.

Why French? who care.

[ember kiln]

He might be gatrix's cousin

[sick eagle]

This... seems odd

25+ crit dmg and "strongest"?

I mean, like... I have 20+ crit dmg?

The ceiling is about 80%+ crit dmg

With all 4 black lines

So uh... 40%+, 50%+, or even 60%+... sure. 25%+? Kinda low.

Should've mentioned ele % and atk % for relevancy

I'm going to have to assume in good faith that it's an Eve with only 2 crit dmg lines and the rest dedicated to other things, like 2 crit rate lines (or 1 crit rate and 1 ammo)

With 4 ele and 4 atk

[slow walrus]

Nah that's bs. I have eve with 3Attk. 4 Ele. 3 crit dmg and it doesn't matter if its the typical crown helm. Crown mast. Miranda treasure. It's the same damage everytime

Like yes. If you do b1 rrh. B3 rh and eve, they will all do about the same dmg no matter if its full crit dmg or not.

If the OL rolls started higher for crit damage, eve could be better, but OL crit rolls suck for where they are at.

[jade pewter]

bro runs the "best" comp for Eve to

• Deal as much as Red hood no pierce 1 core in shooting range
• Deal as much as Rapi B1

[slow walrus]

Yuuuuup, exactly

[ember kiln]

Maids red hood kinda blasphemy

What's next? Maids snow?

[jade pewter]

maid snow is strong

110% ATK is still there

[hybrid isle]

https://tenor.com/view/l3gacord-stare-laughing-emoji-blue-slime-gif-14668909583579328987

[uncut goblet]

he's a he tho

[uncut goblet]

megaman collab with this skin damn there will be dangling all over while shooting

[olive drum]

Found this on Facebook just now

[uncut goblet]

what the fuck lvl 913

[hybrid spoke]

Ah yes, compare DPS units when the supports give imbalanced advantages, sure

RH barely benefits from that comp

Eve keeps up with B1 Rapi and RH with no pierce buffs against a target where pierce is bad

[trail quiver]

at least if they made eve have universal debuff she couldve been an xlud replacement

but nah

im gonna have my copium volume treasure bring eve to relevancy

[slow walrus]

they'd need to double crit damage value for it to ever bring eve to relevancy after the sr

[hybrid spoke]

Volume's SR usage is still way too high to warrant a treasure in the first place

[earnest holly]

bruh who wrote that

[jade pewter]

me

myself

and I

[trail quiver]

copium copium

crit conversion from overflow crit rate to crit dmg

[thick oracle]

@steel heart they name dropped you

[thick oracle]

Don only shared this in the maincord thread to tell people that eve isn't trash, she's fine

Cuz maincord thread said she needs to be better than RapiRH

[jade pewter]

ah that's true, she's like Ein

element specialist

better than random ass SBS and Alice now

neutral soon will die beside a few top meta

even then, eventually they will wither too

if they release a lot who deals as much as Rapi or Cin but ele only

[idle sigil]

Considering RapiRH is a peak DPS for two elements (Iron + Fire), and also a peak B1 for all other elements.....

I do think Eve, who is absolutely useless outside of iron, should be at least hitting equivalent to RapiB3 when she's on element.

[trail quiver]

she should be at least solidly rh hood tier

for no pierce

cause red hood has the chance to go higher since its sub optimal

but optimal eve should consistently be at or above red hood tier

[thick oracle]

Bro

Rapi is the fucking face of the game

She was a 1% unit

She defined a new type of unit

Eve is a 3 week 2% banner that will never rerun again

[thick oracle]

She is

She is that tier

[twin wharf]

nope, it was RH

[thick oracle]

Wdym

I meant Overspec

Overspec is the new type of units

[twin wharf]

OS doesn't mean shit outside of lore

[thick oracle]

Yeah I mean that's the point

Rapi is integral to the game

It makes sense she's the goat

Eve is a nobody

[twin wharf]

no doubt she's the face of dps in this game

Eve who ?

[idle sigil]

Right now Eve is also the face of the game tho