#[Arcana] New Unit Megathread
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bsoda is a different element
Isn't BSoda mandatory on SG comp?
i assume Isabel + Arcana are viable for AI too?
No?
they keep making good on neutral setups
Anomaly INterception
Uh
BSoda is the current sg meta because she's the only sg that actually does damage
No, Bsoda is bad with Isabel cuz she would make Isabel burst 10seconds instead of 5
Also extends the FB time so that Tove won't have that big of a downtime
I thought the general consensus of Arcana is to use her with Trina Scarlet B1 CDR combo
With Isabel for obvious reason
I mean it works but scarlet is literally a breathe away from dying constantly
?

Wouldn’t say that
why isnt she dead
they couldnt give isabel a treasure so they had to give her a nikke
sorry treasures come with a gacha skin now
best you can get is a crutch unit on a filler banner
Milk doesn't have a treasure.
she has a paper weight.

ironic since most Milk fans would want her to kick them in the balls
but i don't want su to kick me in the balls
that's different
trina is the healer in scar team but she don't heal to full hp
assuming Scarlet Trina Isabel Arcana
we're bursting Scarlet first, yes?
we sacrifice buffs on first rotation
or sacrifice final burst duration
skip or get?
electric SR soon 
that's actually true because of k's element
well I have her skin... but I didn't build her
maybe just 1 10x
cause she's pretty
I got her
neat
cool
ok and now I just save up for SB collab?
Imo its isabel first
Isabel first would be to full stack buffs even on first rotation
as long as we get the full 9 bursts on Scarlet
this should be default
need someone to confirm if arcana isabel can beat the usual sg setup in neutral first
neutral Isabel 
scar trina 0.5
I'd say grab one copy for safekeeping/collection
I did
Sigma
got 2 nikkes I don't have in a single 10x, nice
i dont think isabel is a good SG for the Tove SG team
not together, obviously
if the current boosted isabel can't beat sg in neutral then I don't see the point of rolling
unless you're stacking up another team for electric raids
The entire reason why anyone should roll Arcana is when Elec Raid happens
Arcana + 4x Ele Atk Up OL Isabel
Tove comps benefits from SG that has normal attack cast e.g. B.Soda, Drake, Privaty
Isabel has none of that, they're more like a quick burst colmp
what about Sugar?
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a very long time
Sugar is a Iron B3 SG which increases attack of all SG nikkes
I think they're both in it together
Cuz Isabel buffing scarlet as well
Quite handily might i say
Perfect play needed but still
Seems like this cook is quite nice
No, she only increases Max Ammo
Even in himoke screenshots above u can see
9 burst scarlet cuz of Trina and everything surrounding Isabel is quite good
At the very least Isabel is A tier now
In the general meta sense she's S tier at the current moment cuz she's must use electric solo raids
perfect play? as in burst gen?
As far as I'm concerned from what I've seen yet
Arcana, Isabel, Trina, Scarlet
All 4 are new additions to the top roster for electric SRs
In one team or not we will find out when the top players use it
There is still the problem of a team 5 for electric weak we need to address
watch them come up with some nonsense like Miranda crit 
Cuz electric does not have a team 5 atm
Yeah I'm kinda expecting something at that level tbh
But idk
Can't say for sure
I'll drop 30 pulls on Arcana
but my Trina is 4/4/4 no OL
Scarlet has blue ATK lines but 1x ELE
team3 is bricked for me anyway
can Trina with 6 shots get full energy
assume precharge on first shot
Maybe?
Her burst gen is top tier
I'll test tonight, sync locked
Rather than Tove Arcana Isabel Leona DrakeTr, perhaps Tove Arcana Isabel MastM/Dolla DrakeTr will deal more. I mean without CDR might as well just wait out MastM's stun.

Ladies and gentlemen, I introduce you to Isabel's buffer.
That is a bold move for someone who supports a yandere in combat.
One word: Polycule.
Maiden: 💢
All I have to do is get Arcana and Isabel to fall in love with each other and I win.
rapi x chair is eternal
Anyway, you're all wrong. The new meta is clearly running Arcana with Soldier EG for that sweet permanent max ammo buff
they covered the gyatt
Much better.
can isabel multihit one target with her s2?
or is it 5 targets but only once per target
incorrect, this is the correct meta
u dont even need those three meta cdr
nah. 2 B2 better
That does free up the other B1s for other team
first team is actually viable because no one uses dolla and volume anymore
put in sakura then
Doesn't work as well.
sooo liter is attack crutch?
Yeah, lack of additional buff to boost isabel's damage
4/4/4 isabel
4/4/4 Isa/trina/arcana
i OLd Isa a while back tho for waifu reasons so she has 80 ele tho
worst, they use a fishing net to cover her gyatt.
I hopes you burst arcana with isabel with those position 
i did
just a mobile full auto test so bursted with Trina/scar first and let them do the rest 
Can u try with Leona instead of Dolla
Tove almost doubled her damage.
And once more with MastM (just wait out her stun)
Or can u test it @rustic basalt
someone did
Where
my goat
my basement
premium isabel support i kneel
Now try MastM
Wait thats not ur account
Ure not sync 370
im not testing
Arcana having 230% caster's ATK buff
im not reading either
Obviously cause without cdr the team get less burst and full burst
Arcana cdr are only when she and isabel burst too anyway
lack of cdr hurts 
decided to 7/7/7 both for science 
I can see a two-way split for Electric SR:
- Tove Arcana Isabel Dolla DrakeTr
- Cindy Rouge XMaiden MastM AnchorM
- ExiaTr Crown Ein SAnis Volume/DWife
Versus:
- Cindy Rouge SAnis XMaiden...
- Liter/Volume Arcana Isabel Trina Scarlet
What I think might be the case:
- Liter/Volume Arcana Isabel Trina Scarlet
- Cindy Rouge XMaiden MastM AnchorM
- ExiaTr Crown Ein SAnis Volume/DWife
- (Tove Leona/Naga BSoda PrivM DrakeTr)/(Tove Blanc BSoda PrivM Noir)
- Something with Mari
Or:
- Tove Arcana Isabel Dolla DrakeTr
- Cindy Rouge SAnis Mari/Grave XMaiden
- Ein with RH-B1/Blanc Noir?
- Trina Scar?
- Crown?
Or:
- Liter Arcana Isabel Trina Scarlet
- Cindy Rouge SAnis Grave XMaiden
- ExiaTr Crown Ein HelmTr CDR?
- Tove Blanc BSoda PrivM Noir/Naga DrakeTr variant? Leona DrakeTr?
- B1 Mari SBS Alice BAlice?
for comparison with privaty... privaty is 10/10/10; isa and arcana at 7/7/7 right now both have 80 ele

Is it actually electric raid next or ppl spreading bs? Actually I thought stellar blade was next SR (when it comes out on pc 11th or smthing) but that doesn't make sense time wise
Dont ask that here

Crazy isabel damage are mpriv and soda combined
Why do people come in megathreads to ask about datamine ?
i dont have isabel so i have very little reason to pull 
It will be perfect if dolla burst even do something other than damage
is that working though, the 2nd pic is less total damage. 5.8b vs 5.5b
yeah but my arcana and isa are 7/7/7 where as everything else is 10/10/10... im pretty sure this will win at 10/10/10
i dont know if i want to invest tho to test 
it will probably win then ,but that doesn't seem worth it for neutral. I guess it may be a side bonus if you invested primarily for elec weak
you'd only have to wait another 6 months to be able to reset it 
Btw, now that Arcana force you to do 5s burst, does that mean you can use Maiden now
To build up more stacks
No OL?
No
Arcana needs another B2
How are u supposed to accumulate more MP then
So you run some bs like Isabel Maiden instead
Shorter burst cycle
Maiden consumes MP when bursting
Funny if isabel with arcana kicking soda
Another iron kicking the dust
thing is, that isabel team looks like death if healer is needed
dmg ceiling could be higher but should be much less comfy than traditional bunnies team
There is literally no sustain there
literally none of them having any form of survivability in their skill
Tove is such a fraud, survivalist my ass
survivalist of rng 
Thats kinda true
Theres cope for dolla getting something tho lmao
Or even any cdr
The real question rn is who the heck is the next boss
This SR isn't technically over yet and we are worried about the next one already

UR come first
but at least it's confirmed that Eve gonna be electric unit, unless collab raid is july, but i doubt it
Doesn't really matter unless you are dealing the final blows
Next SR isn't collab SR
Collab's SR will be on July
And both the SR and the collab should end on the same day
so Isabel went to the worst pilgrim to a excellent Electric DPS with Arcana?
probably yes
most players are using her on either Shotgun teams or alongside Trina + Scarlet
I have her c1 but why bother when has zero investment
how
NS? 😵💫
What abt priv with Isabel? So drop drake
動画投稿しました(深夜)
新キャラのアルカナを引いてきたので性能を見ていく動画です
あまりにもヤケクソ強化すぎて今後電撃短縮キャラは子無さそう
【NIKKE】最弱からトップキャラへ イサベル専用強化パーツ!新キャラ アルカナ 性能・使い勝手・引く...
Kinda his calculation

will need quite lots ammo on Arcana to squeeze burst gen
There should be new tier list, like pair tier or something
Isabel is bad, but with Arcane, she become good.
but my meth shows that Cinderella dmg will be roughly the same on Sanis Maiden vs Isabel Arcana
while Isabel with same amount of ele as my Sanis will just equal both Sanis + Maiden

tier lists already assume you use proper teams
but more about different taste
I have feeling they will buff specific old character with new Nikke beside the treasure. Scarlet and Isabel now the example. Maybe Harran next.
then isn't it still a mari vs sanis/xmaiden diff
since a b2 and b3 replacing two b3s
you can still use sanis/xmaiden on cindy team
as I state, total dmg won't gain much, but you will be more sweaty on Isabel Arcana because
- 2 new mouths to feed. May be 4
- Squeeze a lot of burst gen to work

that is actually f2p friendly
Cause she gain most from arcana lmao
10/10/7
Her own kits is dogshit
isn't the isabel cindy comp something like cindy/rouge/isabel/arcana/sanis
with sanis there wouldn't it edge out the regular comp then?
oh does arcana need another b2
since arcana boosts isabel's s2 i assumed you wanted to lvl it up too
you can but you don't need
but 7 skill max is np
Isabel S2 dmg is meh
make up like 10% total dmg
90% are from her own basic attacks lol
the neat part of Isa: She doesn't need any specific B1 since she has the bloatest amount of buff on herself lmao
185 ~ 235% ATK
187% Attack Damage
that's a freaking 2B in Attacker
this leaving her to scale with only
- Crit
- Ammo
- Ele
I got Alice from Arcana's banner... but my Alice already core 7 
Does she need OL atk rolls or those aren't needed either?
Btw is there any variation with mpriv and isabel in the team not drake cause assuming its elec weak double elec sg
Atk only gives diluted results as she is getting alot already from arcana
Atk isn't bad tho. Just not necessary like ele

Reroll Isabel to ele, crit chance, crit damage on all gears
Atk is giga inflated and her S2 and burst don't require ammo
Kek or cringe?
Is bell
Can someone tell me how big a difference is between arcana with level 0 gears and overload level 5 with attack % rolls gears?
Because 180% attack of caster looks big but dome dude tells there's no difference or whatever
overload stats don't get shared
i think 
so you should just need lvl 5 gear
and max doll 
No way
almost 5k base attack for maxing doll
which usually doesn't matter that much
but if you're sharing 250%
Woah
overload lines are basically buffs so they shouldn't get shared but gear and doll add to your base stats which do
and if you're trying to revive a dead unit with a gimmick unit that has ridiculous attack share you probably want to give her every possible bit of base attack
which also means start working on that core 7
The real gimmick here is the +180% Attack Damage buff
does attack from attack share given to isabel get buffed by attack damage buffs or is it just flat 250% unbuffed arcana atk after all calcs?
This sounds strange. As far as I understand, first ATK is calculated (buffs and all that manipulate ATK).
Then the ATK counters enemy DEF, then plugs into multipliers formula to calculate final outcome of damage.
- This is where Attack Damage is leveraged
Then tossed to Elemental Damage for one last multiplication.
So… there’s no such thing as, “Here’s ATK buff, what’s it really going to be now if I smacked it with 180% ATK Dmg buff?”
ATK Dmg doesn’t modify ATK
ATK dmg modifies final attack so it should buff attack given to isabel by atk share
if i understand correctl
Oh I see, you were asking if the Caster’s ATK shared is applied after other modifiers like Attack Dmg
I think all ATK modifications are calculated first together. Everything should be
yes
You might be thinking about buff timings
Some buffs don’t affect the B3 bursting until it’s too late, so their burst nuke doesn’t use it
so atk share should still be very important even if +180% attack damage would probably be stronger than +250% supporter attack share in a vacuum
is isbelle in da game now?
She's always been in your closet watching
i saw some post say that she is the 2nd strongest in dps now for ele team just behind cinderella
I want unit that buffs snow white.... Actually buffs not what treasure miranda was
Probably is
arcana-isabel could be in neutral raid for sake faster burst
is this like a luxury pull or must pull for top solo raid in electric
like you put rapipi with them, then rapi could burst more
luxury if you want to build isabel
I'm 100% sure we will see Isabella with arcana with top scores in electric solo raid
I can't like investing in Isabel comp, so I'm going to neglect her
We'll see if ShiftUp can change my mind
Seeing solo raid ranking will change your mind
so I just leave arcana at 1/1/1, no doll, no gear, no nothin'?
I am not building isabel until she gets buffed
Bro acting like pulling pilgrim is easy lmao
Oh building nevermind I read pulling I'm going to sleep sorry
I alr have her lmao XD
How's the new character peeps?
Isabel is the one Pilgrim I don't have. Most of the meta ones are MLB and still don't have Isabel.
tldr; Isabel can do respectable Electric damage numbers with Arcana.
If you have Isabel at a high level of investment and want to bring Isabel into Electric Solo Raids, it's potentially worth snagging a copy
If you don't, then probably not.
There's also the danger that right before a Solo Raid comes out, we usually get a new Elemental DPS, so it's pretty likely that we'll get a new Electric B3 for Arcana even if you DON'T have Isabel
depends
you might notice that your team 4-5 for electric look like crap
if shes not doing 1bil extra dmg for my team i dont want it
so trina/scarlet or arcana/isabel WILL see play
I bit the bullet. Hope it's worth it
having a copy of any NIKKE is always the safest bet
Except if you're THAT bad and brings nothing to the team
like cheerleader duo and crust
Zwei too
and Quiry
and Phantom
shit, there's actually a lot of them out there
at any rate, I snagged a copy as well just in case
i'm not getting a copy seems like the typical skip case like mana
not a top 50 solo raid player so no need for this one
Phantom is only useful at Elysion Tower, and even if you don't have any other "good" DPS from Elysion which almost everyone sucks including her
I'm pretty Sure Arcana gives 0 value in Elysion Tower
like who from Elysion benefits from her buffs?
Privaty Maid? Guillotine? Maiden?
imo making the arcana+isabel duo might seems like you need to raise 2 nikke, but in reality its just arcana since 1/1/1 isabel still hits very hard
you just need OL on her
arcana also huge whale bait
since 230% caster attack is broken

this is so fucking sad
imagine a kit so damn broken that 1/1/1 is still usable
and you're carried by a broken exclusive support
or it's all a hyper funnel into electric attacker ar b3 Eve with full burst duration decrease
cos her skill scaling are very bad for 2025 standard
cannot be solved

at least arcana invest is more futureproof than isabel invest
since non-zero chance of future dps for arcana 
No one
her S1 with permanent duration gives meme amount of buff
her S2 deals meme amount of dmg
her burst deals as much as Scarlet non Trina buff
idk, 1/1/1 or 4/4/4 sound okay to me
Elysion tower is just rapi hypercarry tower in disguise
All other DPS are mid compared to her so you might as well go helm + maids
and DKW
B1 rapu is criminal
I don't think Rapi benefits much from dkw but who else are you gonna run
Maybe you could run treasure Miranda if you want to cope with dolla + maid mast playing like crown mast
maiden, that's it
Elysion still doesn't have a pierce sniper
"tactics" my ass, Ingrid cannot cook anything with half decent synergy for her tower
Saw some confusion so I'll clear it up
From a meta perspective, Arcana+Isabel is only for players looking to aim for a top 200 finish in electric-weak solo raids, and really mostly for top 50 players. Otherwise you have no business with this unit.
If fully invested, like if very seriously hyper invested, you can use her in neutral element against bosses with no core on a non crown team, but the expected turn out for that team will probably be equal to WAsuka+ReiTN-ish, or SG team-ish
Her tactics is bringing a sledgehammer
yeah but you still get cdr, some attack damage and attack share
and i am not using b1 rrh
my rapi is omega gorilla and i will use her as b3
i don't have ReiTN or SG team invested so i can run this instead 
Although
@stone palm
If you could verify my second paragraph 
If equally invested, what's a team 5 looking like on a non crown team?
Like, say
Liter Grave WAsuka ReiTN Modernia
Vs
Liter Arcana Isabel B2 B3
What would you even use for that B2 and B3 slot 
On neutral what is even left
Like it's pretty clear that Isabel isn't going to Crown
Scarna
Cuz a unit getting this much atk and attack damage has no business there
On neutral though
Huh
But is Scar Trina = WAsuka on neutral? I was under the assumption that WAsuka is still better than Scar (with Trina)

putting both of them together for neutral isn't gonna happen a lot of the time
your only elemental coverage is your b1
your only "healer" is trina
Trina is a good healer though
I forgot where I put Trina in Scarlet's formula

need to check again
yep, the word is always "barely"

she never dies
look at her body
answer me again
The Difference
between Free lvl 200 and Maxed OL Arcana
I'll skip and cry when they give us isabel doll
its 180% for 15s + 50% for 5s + 5% for 10s
if we normalise it for ease, its about 200% for 15s
whats the recommended skill investment for arcana?
10/10/4
For Isabel it's 10/4/7 I guess
ty
Hmm, despite the nice number, Isabel won't be useful in SR because Electric has so many meta now.
Wat if Trina and Arcana are meant to be hyper funneled into Eve?
b3 electric ar that reduces fb duration 
You guys dont need to cope like that SU obviously not that smart
Their purpose in the making are obviously just to buff the pilgrims for now at least in the future maybe but not soon
Perhaps they didn't plan to make favorite item for pilgrim yet, because requirement for pilgrim max bond should be MLB. So, they make new character instead for buffing old pilgrim.
Funneling those 2 into 1 thing doesnt make sense anyway cause both trina and arcana need to burst to give buff
Has anyone tried to put together a Isabel-only team yet?
E.g.
RapiRH/Arcana/Isabel/Rouge/Siren?
yes
a dude did a liter/volume/dolla run
loses to the usual cindy blanc comp
only a little bit. His isabel and arcana were obviously under-invested
cindy rouge sanis blanc xmaiden?
I don't even know how his CP is so balanced
that feels kinda low for cindy lol
that's because it screams shit OL or no OL
for reference SR Anis with OL has that much power at sync 400
still waiting for le sky ogre to give his verdict
i tried the most dumbass comp with Rouge Dolla Vol sHelm Cindy, and also got 2x the damage
after taking into account elem dmg difference
Scp[eLock
Apparently she has the highest Burst gen of any Mag RL
Over 1B damage in 3 minutes is more than I expected for Isabel, honestly
Yeah but her S2 triggers additional burst gen, like how Emilia does
same gen as xmaiden?
wow that's op
It'll matter for like.. one or two comps, but not even bc she really doesn't offer much...
Is anything other than her burst even relevant in pvp
Yeah it's just burst
NikkeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/Discord: https://discord.gg/skyfallUnits Overload Skill Cube Guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SGm58eu...
Went through this stream
And man Arcana Isabel seems very promising

Like damn man
Top 50 will likely run it in electric raids
But unless you're focusing on electric she's absolutely not worth it lol
Just run neutral damage SBS & Alice instead or something
My issue is mats to level my gear now to lvl 5 (pre ol)l.. i am sure stellar blade will be busted.. (eve at least).. skill books is fine for now.. OL rocks come back quickly enough..
thats coop?
Yes
Generally it seems like
Arcana Isabel B2buffer Cindy B1CDR
Cindy Rouge S.Anis B2Buffer xMaiden
fk it think i am just gonna invest in her.. then only missing electric i don't have is favorite exia
Arcana Isabel == SAnis xMaiden 
Good for those who missed limited units ig 
For electric raid Cindy is not going with her tho right? because she wants rouge
it is good that people won't have to use 2x the skill books
Scarlet Trina was good but this definitely seems
Better?
Because Arcana and Isabel both are also buffing their partner
Well, let's see lol
But probably not
Well, they do
gatrix was saying that 4/4/4 isabel is fine
Isabel and Arcana, to compete, need to be skilled up
Yeah she is fine for general use but I would go like
10/4/7
Probably worth sr 15 isabel if ur going all in right? shotgun is one of the weapons that benefits most?
17% atk buff S1
The damage taken debuff in burst
it is funny how i expected isabel s2 to be leveled up but that's the one you don't
It's good bonus damage ig
bet kira's going to max it 
dmg is dmg
but for us who has limited resources
you need to invest them wisely
not chasing 3% ATK more lol
i would've done everything if she was good in pvp like trina but for some reason they aren't really changing the meta of it much with new characters
7/4/7 then
her dmg during her burst is waste
Arcana
S1: 10
S2: 10
Burst: 4/7/10 depending on how serious you are about this team
Isabel
S1: 4/7/10
S2: 4-7
Burst; 4/7/10
no point in spending during that 5s
Kira said that
With scar trina
You can actually get Isabel burst to buff
Scarlet burst

Cuz Isabel burst activates at a 2s delay
And we have Trina in team
With normal chair you have 7 shots of trina
With 1 full charged shoy
It looks very realistic
you are talking to a guy who cant do 14 bursts in gluttony
surely he can do this comp
If he wanted to he can
right?
don't feed the troll 
XD true
Yeah only doable
With liter volume

I sent the math above
40s cooldown
- 10s Scarlet fb
- 2s burst gen
- 5s isabel fb
- 2s burst gen
= 19s, need 21s cdr
CDR
Liter full ramp up
-8.21s liter
-8.21s liter
-6s arcana
= 22.42s total cdr
so u have that extra leeway with liter
Siren
-7.48
-7.48
-6s
= 20.96s
with this you are off by a slight milli second?
well, seems too hassle for an okay tier of burst
So for electric raid.. elec has like 4 teams now? Cindy/rouge/xmaiden.. Anis/Ein.. Scarlet/Trina + Isabel/Arcana and then shotgun with Mpriv.. elec makes even fire roster look under developed at this point.. and sure Haran will get a buffer soon too 😆
wait
Yeah looks like it, if we re use last electric raid teams:
- Cindy rouge xMaiden Grave RHB1
- Exia Crown Ein S.Anis DWife
- Tove Leona MPriv BSoda DrakeT
- Isabel Arcana Trina Scarlet Liter
- and now team 5 has siren + RRH

oh nvm
don't think Scar burst worth that much to throw Liter here

may be Volume then
But no way volume better than liter here
We don't have a spot for volume
Siren is left
RRHb1 is left
Liter is left
And there's only 3 spots for b1cdr
so this is why they gave everyone free treasure drake
SG is simple and effective 
Liter is also much more potent cuz her uptime is so high 
On ATK buff
Cuz Isabel burst is short
Why not just use Mari?
For team 5?
Mari my bad
Siren better cuz 2 MG 
Also siren just better 
not better for Rapi and Mihara here

you have 2 strongest neutral DPS now
gotta abuse them
I haven't even seen 1 team where the final team damage with liter is better than with siren 
Except for now with Isabel Arcana
Let's just assume that all of this is correct for a sec
If true, Alice will be benched for the first time ever in solo raids
Ever
I did think of Alice SBS duo macho
but then B1 electric CDR

rip
I could only think of
Cinderella Rouge Maiden Macho
Which would directly mean that in some sense, shift up has fr succeeded in making a raid where macro fr doesn't matter 
seems better than random Grave + Red
Well
Tbh I also have another team 4 u 
Miranda Mari Ein 
For team 5
It's probably possible to make all 5 teams electric next Electric raid
I ditch Grave + Red for Macho
higher ATK buff overall
that team seems impossible to die too
Macho sux

not worth the hassle
Bro the team is very fun to play with man
but ein shot is not that bad
True
But Miranda more than makes up for it probably (I think)
perma crit equals 33.33% dmg up
without crit dmg buff
iirc her skill dmg = auto attack dmg. So half of her dmg is buffed by 33 ~ 66% I think
in exchange reducing auto attack dmg during her FB

You guys are theorycrafting too much when the next raid is not even confirmed
Raid banner is not out
also both of you dont even play SR
next Nikke alrdy data mined though
iron raid soon copium
iron DPS just
RH-Rapipi
SW-Maxwell
SG Soda-Sugar
rest are meh (soline)?
worse than water
because lack of rooster
maybe true dmg comp with Laplace
Frima-DKW-Laplace-Ein-Mari
The best is electric I think for sure now
Fire is also really really good
Soline should be dealing more damage since now smg hitting 24sht/s
Her weapon % is the highest for smg.. just that its not enough
She's as loli as Alice is
Water had 22b on material H, a boss with core and pierce
Fire has 24b on a dead fucking piece of shit (literally)
......do we count treasure Laplace?
Iron raid totally gonna happen soon right guys????
Electric raid next for real unless stellar blade unit turns out to be iron lmao
One and only
What’s iron
You know ore from Minecraft
Damn
Where
What is this “Eve confirmed to be electric”
any comparatives of the % diff between lb0 -> c7 ?
Ban if untrue
go ban
next raid is electric weak, but it's most likely K's raid not collab raid
Recycle boss?
I don't know if there any boss can be use as Raid though (not including collab boss)
black snake lower than mat h eh
nippon baked new electric peak
I have seen many people comment they get Arcana not because of her ultility, but because she have the rizz.
The charm is real with blue haired women (Helm, Arcana)
This feels right
I was searching for a proper B2
That would pair with Arcana
And kept skipping Blanc cus I kept thinking shes 60s

This sounds right but where burst gen?
Relying on Rouge only?
blanc fits because her buff scales multiplicatively with arcana's I think
Insane cope
You need like
2x max ammo on Rouge
To do this
On enemy without core at least
only two lines?
Arcana also buffs Cindy's burst damage
and Privaty
Arcana buffs Cindy's ult by 10% damage taken
17.5% atk dmg
55% caster's ATK
But this is neutral I think
SAnis XMaiden should still be better on ELE
Rip childhood
i played gta vice city and san andreas during my childhood, minecraft wasn't really a thing back then

I played gta vice city, san andreas, china town and minecraft and skyrim and borderlands and god eaters and monster hunters

It has always been a thing
But not that popular in certain asia countries
And almost all SEA countries
i meant this period isn't during my childhood
Are you saying youre old
30-40?
Even if ure 29, 14 yo still coints as childhood somewhat
was busy playing dota 2 and csgo
I see

You were probably just unaware of it then
for sure
How is Laplace a loli
She has gyatt and milkers

Laplace actually respectable DPS
Mostly because the only good iron DPS are RH who's only good in pierce and bsoda who's held back by having to hang out with the rest of the shotgun crew
what's iron
some kinda new upcoming element
50 pulls, there, happy? you guys have been marketing her a lot so I decided to throw in.
core 7 isabel doko
he dipped into his gem reserves
we got annuda one lads
no way lmao
When Elysion have to buff a Pilgrim 
Think my Arcana ammo suffice for now lol
Next is Isabel start from 0
There's no way they ever make an electric 5s B3 ever again
Imagine a modern character with a real kit getting 250% attack share 180% attack damage
They'd have to make her completely unusable without arcana and you know how shift up is with reruns
This isn't a potential man character, it's 5s burst getting buried forever
At least for electro
For electro

They'd have to make a new off element 5s B3 that's so good they can play with Arcana bursting on their turn so her buff can go to Cinderella
Yeah we're not getting another 5s b3 electro
If they were planning to do more 5s burst units they would have had it be Mihara
But Mihara's kit is so undercooked that it's possible the original kit was a 5s burst and they had to panic rework it because liter arcana Mihara Cinderella turned out to be overpowered
If you really want to cope
blanc 40s? 

no it's 60
Aw
Its getting cut by rouge
Maybe original new Mihara also had cdr since she was supposed to be pilgrim tier and it created a critical mass if cdr where arcana could be solo B2 and they could run liter arcana Mihara Cinderella maid mast to make it go hard
If they made a 5s pilgrim B3 nowadays they would totally put cdr in her kit
We've reached below the bottom of the copium barrel
Actually digging for treasure
Arcana Pull or Skip ?

problem is idk if my lb0 arcana with mid invest isabel can beat my decent sanis and mid xmaiden
1 - Dresses modestly but still overflows the thermometer? Check
2 - Tall? Check (she appears to be taller than D)
3 - Level-headed? Check (VERY IMPORTANT since a lot of crazy and quietly-crazy Nikkes out there!)
4 - Can be goofy as needed? Check
5 - Can be charming as needed? Check
6 - Looks good in a wedding dress? Check
7 - Does not involve training on how to be someone's dog? Check
8 - Does not result in a trip to the Police station courtesy of Poli? Check
9 - What are you waiting for? WAIFU.
Just being silly @solid gate 
but it's not the first or second time that this happened
I'm waiting to see how the story ends before I call her waifu
if bad ending I'll burn down elysion headquarters
Zwei for Snow White and Miranda's Treasure for Snow White 6 months later
Miranda kit needs a bugfix imo
It doesn't feel right for her to have a "1 ammo" restriction but you can abuse the related buffs for 0 ammo (don't shoot)
We'll see if it materializes in 2 years later 
Yea theres even crit rate for normal atk in helm kits it should have been like that if more correct as intended lmao
This should be in line with miranda intented usage
Arcana baby
Lillyweis will be burst 3 electric 5s burst unit
Investing in victory means playing the long game
Tldr:
Absolutely tactical
btw sorry permission to copying this text for........purposes
Isabel and her buffer will replace bsoda + mpriv in sg team for electric raid or nah?
So. How good is Isabel+ arcana now that testing was done ?
@gleaming badge I think they will be on another team for electric solo raid.. having said that.. i tried some of the SG teams people posted here (Tove/Arcana/Isable/Drake/dolla) vs soda/drake/bunny team on neutral boss and they actually did more damage.. Isabel is missing one OL gear/Dolla has no investment whatsoever either
Arcana make Isabel main dps is her S2
how many burst rotations in each run?
also that Isa dmg looks quite low, seems underinvestment
why is siren there?
yeah, 2x attack only 4/7/4
skill doesn't matter much in this case
Isa kit is 2022 one, can put 1/1/1 or 4/4/4 and it barely makes a diff
Total rotation dunno but left cindy 8 times and right cindy 7 times
hmm okay
in theory Cindy should be able to burst 9 times here
so at least dmg is on par
Siren with Cindy's team doesn't really make sense to me for electric raids
Rouge might be better here to allow siren to join another team
the former team might need Siren as burst gen though 
theres only one mg so she’s not going to be providing gen consistently
you’d ideally use rouge, but it would require a lot of skill to gen
need ammo on arcana to spam
Yeah, poor testing.
i would love to test but pulls for arcana doko
and my isabel wouldnt have any rocks fed to her cause rapi KEEPS TAKING THEM FOR THAT AMMO

i could test on a union mate account but it would just be shit stats on everyone cause his investments are… interesting

Arcana Blanc Isabel Rouge Cindy is what you should test.
One Electric team setup:
- Arcana Blanc Isabel Rouge Cindy
Two Electric teams setup:
- Cindy Rouge SAnis Mari/Crown XMaiden
- Liter Arcana Isabel Trina Scarlet
Three Electric team setups:
- Cindy Rouge XMaiden Maids
- Or: Cindy Rouge SAnis Grave XMaiden
- ExiaTr Crown Ein SAnis Volume
- Or: ExiaTr Crown Ein HelmTr Volume
- Liter Arcana Isabel Trina Scarlet
if we take icon displaying time is Isabel's debuff landed
she takes around 2.7s to land her debuff
wtf

Kira said that (or was it Shinonono)
Isabel Damage Taken is delayed
Kira
I just verify it to be around 2.7s
so you actually have 2.7s leeway after FB ends
Is Cindy ult snapshot
Actually is damage taken snapshot
Or does it only affect when number shows up
snapshot
Wait, does Isabel's burst damage actually benefit from the damage taken, or is that delayed enough as well?
Her damage taken debuff is delayed
So it is only present in half~ of her own burst
I’ll give it a test when I am able to (on vacation rn, gonna throw another 10 pull on my account too so maybe I get her)
I actually have unit investment so it would be a better test
cause unionmate doesnt have xmaiden
tho my exiaT is also shit
Core doesn't help burst gen iirc, probably need to hold charge rouge at the end of FB then spam/alternate charge arcana with with 1-2 ammo
got her in 20
will do some testing in a few days when I have isabel and her built a tiny bit
Apparently it's definitely turning Isabel at the very least Electric raid meta
Unfortunately for me 
Can someone test if Cindy SAnis XMaiden Rouge Mari/Crown/Grave is still better than Arcana Blanc Isabel Rouge Cindy under Elemental conditions?
give me a few days to roll some initial lines and ill test
dont have gear exp

Sky tested alrdy
And gatrix math did too
Cindy s.anis xMaiden grave is better
that's really good news for us skippers
gotta pull her for this achievement
What are you missing should been 155 by now
Ah too bad that power gonna missing forever
Maybe ask that alleged GM to give his power lol
gm's are corpo slaves
if they did anything like that they'd get fired if lucky and sued if not
gm = general motors?
goblin midget?
good morning?
Gamer moments

Isabel Treasure is here, and its name is Arcana 
I have to pull for it so it’s not the treasure

You complained about treasures being pretty expensive because of how ass doll kit income is, so now you don't have to choose between treasures and giving your real units high rank dolls
Devs listened.
When did I ever said this
Fuck them

All I ever put in survey was Give Isabel Treasure
Not enough people bought doll packs
did you coordinate with other isabel simps? 
I'm an lonely existence
She definitely can't get a treasure now
She's already pretty powerful now
then you didn't invest into her enough
She's like team 2 electric raids
Team 1 depending on investments
C7 max doll arcana for max buff, minmax Isabel ol
Actually
Knowing most people can't utilise xMaiden properly
Isabel arcana is definitely team 1 for most people
I'll die on that hill
the irony is my isabel is still lb1 
Hill already got bulldozed, arcana is Isabel's only salvation
C7 arcana before you miss out 
Fuck that
I'm not giving SU any more money until her treasure comes
So they can shove it up their bums
instruction clear

If you want Isabel team to be good, the only cope left is vesti treasure, for 5 sec fb comp
Still prob need arcana tho 
Without arcana, Isabel likely trash until eos
Even if Isabel gets treasure, arcana is still mandatory
C7 arcana for better buffs
Force snake to theorycraft a new Isabel team every time a new support drops
you sure you wanna just let your isabel rot away like that 
why are you so against arcana anyway
you want isabel to be strong without supports?
c7 is just peak minmax, single copy arcana is fine 
idgaf about being strong
LMAO
If I did I wouldn't be C7 10/10/10 OL5 an Isabel

Pulled everything that could had given Isabel a chance but at this point I'm just tired
just get a copy or two of arcana, max out her skills
at least c7 arcana is easier than c7 isabel 
my isabel is stuck at lb1 
then your isabel gonna hit like truck
Just kill me
isabel overspec pilgrim
but the rates are 0.5%?
reason for getting treasure is not just skill effects but new story and arts 
200 tickets always solve
inb4 they need 400 mileage 
Isabel isn't even a real pilgrim
She's not that old and she's not homeless
Her squad should be overspec
More like underspec 
That's why mihara was mid, we thought rapi is the overspec standard but it's actually Isabel
I think that what really matters to know right now is not if all 3 do more damage, but if the damage between that perfect electric team and Arcana + Isabel isn't too big, cuz who the fuck is going to use all those 3 on a single team on an electric solo raid?

At this point, c7 arcana > c7 isabel
180% caster attack buff no joke
For every copy gained, you buffing 5.8% worth of attack
Apparently arcana skill descriptions are wrong
It says so in the known issues thing



Huh
doesn't have to be 5s B3
Eve from Stellarblade could be an electric 9s B3
and it would still work
Woah

-says there's something wrong with arcana's description
-refuses to elaborate
-leaves
Prob some tiny wording thing that doesn't matter
We also have zero new electric or water code ssr collab this year 
How would I know, I'm not John shitup 
Inb4 they accidentally put in too many zeroes
Please stop the Collab meta 
They keep putting collabs in elements that don't have real units
Maybe its 280% instead
Isabel ascend into true pilgrim tier
isabel overspec pilgrim
If only aracana was snow white buffer so it would make symbolic sense
to be fair, Arcana buffing a crazy chick shooting gun sounds more logically than buffing a silent hero

Stupid kid
Anybody know how good or bad Isabel is on the CN version?

















