#[Arcana] New Unit Megathread

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dapper tulip
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She is an extrovert through and through, with a friendly personality that makes her able to get along with just about anyone.

The brand new Supporter Type, Electric Element, Rocket Launcher, Burst 2 Nikke, Arcana has been announced.

Put all findings surrounding Arcana's mechanics here.
You may discuss the character here as well, like what their uses are in PvE or PvP content.
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livid geode
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First

forest karma
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first = dick suckers

livid geode
tame burrow
static vale
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team

b1 arcana isabel trina scarlet

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meta

tame burrow
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But then again, is there any PvP usage? Isabel on first rotation absolutely sucks

static vale
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imagine you don't have that AliceHappy

vernal mirage
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Eve support clueless

tacit forge
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you know what the joke is?
isabel is still shit even with arcana, bet Doro

coral wagon
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Her design a must pull for me

river shuttle
tame burrow
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Arcana herself is 40s

midnight juniper
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Isabel treasure

dapper tulip
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skip

static vale
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learn from the past remember when everyone said trina confirmed electric ar for 2.5 anni?

learn from it or look like a fool again

midnight juniper
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Isabel bombard incoming

rocky girder
river shuttle
tame burrow
midnight juniper
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Arcana herself is a unit for future

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Like Tove when she came out

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It's very intereseting if they really make Isabel treasure

static vale
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isabel s2 for reference

midnight juniper
fleet heart
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skip

tame burrow
vernal mirage
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is it enough CDR if using 2 b1 cdr+ Arcana+Isabel for single b3

tame burrow
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75% reduction would make it approx 3s per one activation

thorny lava
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electric eating good

iron doko?

rocky girder
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Iron doesn't exist

river shuttle
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What?

tacit forge
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what's that?

fleet heart
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isabel treasure coming

rocky girder
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Next SR prolly water trust me

tame burrow
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You'd get nuked before you kill anyone

rocky girder
thorny lava
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put arcana with cindy team works?

radiant rain
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Liter Trina Scarlet Arcana isabel?

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Trina burst with scarlet, Arcana with Isabel

static vale
radiant rain
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Liter should be the best for 5s FB

midnight juniper
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She has CDR, looks promising

tame burrow
fleet heart
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40s kinda doa

tame burrow
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PvP Arena is where it's at

midnight juniper
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40s is fine if she has a duo with strong buff

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Her CDR is like

rocky girder
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Arcana mast maid

midnight juniper
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To rush the next burst

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So next full burst you will have her buff + that full burst buff

radiant rain
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Arcana+isabel burst

midnight juniper
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Looks very promising to me

river shuttle
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Isabel Vesti clueless

radiant rain
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She reduces CDR for Liter so it removes the awkward 2nd burst timing

midnight juniper
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Yeah and you can still burst immediately on next one

radiant rain
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Than liter into trina + scarlet

midnight juniper
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After 2nd one everything is already ramped up

radiant rain
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Than you duo again, arcana+ isabel

tame burrow
vernal mirage
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Scarlet got her support, Isabel with Arcana, Harran next prayge

tame burrow
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Cause you realistically ain't pulling this comp to campaign

midnight juniper
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so Isabel treasures looks like a spell caster

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Not depend on normal atk and chained into SG comp

spare tree
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So how sex she is guys?

tame burrow
spare tree
midnight juniper
dapper tulip
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spare tree
tame burrow
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So basically Solo Raid elec team with Arcana would be

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Liter > Arcana > Isabel > Liter > Trina > Scarlet > Liter > Arcana > Isabel

midnight juniper
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Or EVE is gonna be an electric unit

tame burrow
dapper tulip
tame burrow
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Gotta love to see that

modest widget
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Arcana Cinderella, how many nukes in 3 minutes?

tame burrow
solid cliff
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Scemmer ass medium 🔮
SKIP FrimaSleep

floral leaf
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Her condition for buffs is to be in wheel of fortune status after fb end, but wheel of fortune only lasts for 10 seconds

spare tree
rocky girder
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Imagine believing in mediums in a cyberpunk game

floral leaf
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Thats mean she need isabel's -5 second fb buff to even work

tame burrow
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Vesti won't make it better

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cause she only buffs B3 Elec

modest widget
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I misunderstood her kit
so she's another "signiture weapon"
like Trina to Scarlet

tame burrow
modest widget
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Isabel Arcana Trina Scarlet on the same team?

tame burrow
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B3 Elec who cuts FB time

thorny lava
tame burrow
modest widget
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literally only Isabel can fit the bill

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does Arcana herself provide enough CDR?

tame burrow
midnight juniper
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if you read this right

thorny lava
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6s + ramp up from liter

tame burrow
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Her CDR is 6s

modest widget
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could run ExiaT if Arcana solo CDR is enough

vernal mirage
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the two support gave such big numbers to their "partner"

midnight juniper
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B1 + Arcana + Isabel

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=> B1 + B2 + B3

modest widget
midnight juniper
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That B3 get her buff also

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She's literally like duo maids

thorny lava
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isabel skill 2 gonna be 3,75s

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from 15s

hmmm still mid

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170*4 gonna be 560% damage

tame burrow
rocky girder
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Also guy, another electric b2

tame burrow
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But it still sucks in pvp

midnight juniper
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Wheel of fortune lasts 10 secs

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Example we start with Liter + Arcana + Isabel

modest widget
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Cinderella XMaiden
SAnis Ein
Scarlet Isabel

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all coming together

tame burrow
midnight juniper
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After 5sec FB ends, we still have 5 secs WoF buff

thorny lava
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kick alice sbs from team

midnight juniper
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But she has CDR, so the next burst most likely instantly , below 5sec

thorny lava
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only electric can do

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SG with naga+priv

midnight juniper
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And the result is the 2nd B3 burst gets her buff too

solid cliff
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40 secs CDR niche buffer
Mediums ain't beating real King anytime soon CrownSmug

midnight juniper
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Let me write

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Liter + Arcana + Isabel, WoF activates , 5sec FB ends

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Still have 5 secs WoF

tame burrow
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I GET IT NOW

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(AFTER FB ENDS)

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So Scarlet bursting counts

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even at 2nd rotation

static vale
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is there any electric b1 that would want her buffs

midnight juniper
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Let me check again

rocky girder
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Exia

midnight juniper
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If it's tight or not

tame burrow
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It specifically says only b3 elec gets the juiciest buffs

thorny lava
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exia provides reload buff

rocky girder
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Oh yeah only b3

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Ezia provides copium cuz no CDR

thorny lava
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as scarlet with 20ammo just....

tame burrow
midnight juniper
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Wait

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WoF only 10 secs

tame burrow
midnight juniper
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Is it enough to get the 2nd burst

tame burrow
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5s FBR

static vale
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it is not enough of course because she is a b2 40cd

tame burrow
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even in the condition you immediately bursts right after with Trina Scar

tight condor
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If they somehow salvage isabel god awful kit.. I will be impressed

thorny lava
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liter fully ramp up 8s
arcana 6s

tame burrow
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You'd have 10s to burn of FBR

vernal mirage
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can spamming trina enough for burst gen? but then by the time scarlet using b3 might be already over

tame burrow
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for that demented scenario to play out

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It'd be too broken at that point

thorny lava
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1st burst gonna be whacky

midnight juniper
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yeah so it only affects 1 burst

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mb

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Still only Isabel's kit

tame burrow
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Welp

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Grab a single copy for elec SR

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And chop chop

thorny lava
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560% damage + 180% attack damage on skill 2

tame burrow
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invest in your Isabel

untold veldt
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Don't let this deter you from Stellar blade Collab

vernal mirage
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getting arcana means investing in 2 units

static vale
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every buff requiring her to burst herself is a bit of a downer as well as all her probably not being clip either

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isabel isn't clip either

thorny lava
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trina is clip

so provides burst gen

tame burrow
spare tree
static vale
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i'm looking out for pvp

midnight juniper
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Prob we will have enough burst gen with Arcana only

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Isable is a SG too

vernal mirage
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no raid in schedule, waiting for last day of the banenr kekw

midnight juniper
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Just OL for some ammo

tame burrow
modest widget
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does Cinderella Rouge Isabel Crown Arcana work

static vale
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big buffs

tame burrow
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Cinderella Rouge comp is better with the usual team

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Cause now you can legally use Trina Scarlet in SR without any wasted buffers

modest widget
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define better

static vale
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product 8

modest widget
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I just want to know if it works

static vale
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also big buffs

tame burrow
midnight juniper
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at this rate we will have 3 electric comps in SR

tepid night
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Intern-kun...

midnight juniper
tepid night
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Why are there two copies of her skill 1

modest widget
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I asked if the comp I suggested works
not what's currently meta

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thank you

steep hollow
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Maiden works I guess

static vale
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you want b1

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so you can do b1 b2 b3

thorny lava
solid cliff
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Lol just read the skill again, Wheel of fortune only last 10s ScarletCopium ScarletCopium

stone palm
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herr number looks quite stonk

thorny lava
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electric sg team with naga

stone palm
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I think it's enough to compensate which ass buff

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for someone, I don't know

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Guillotine

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Scarlet

thorny lava
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10/10/1

midnight juniper
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Arcana's buff currently only affect Isabel so far

static vale
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180% atk damage
180% atk

does look passably good

solid cliff
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Isabel the only -5 secs full burst right

midnight juniper
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Ofcourse you can pair this duo with Cindy to speed up the burst

modest widget
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we know Arcana only works with Isabel
the question is do we make a new team with Trina to equally spread damage
or we slot her in with Cinderella for more nukes across 3 minutes

tame burrow
midnight juniper
modest widget
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finally

thorny lava
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team 5 gonna be rapi neutral b3 than alice-sbs combo

stone palm
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only S2?

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cuz I fail to see her burst can't buff other DPS

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and who even cares about S2 lol

midnight juniper
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But that wont be better than the current mono electric comp

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Isabel is still useless now

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Have to wait for treasure

neat dune
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she gives cdr only when she bursts right

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it looks so bad man

static vale
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how about with sanis for pvp?

buffing s2 with 180% attack damage is not so bad

tame burrow
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Will FB time and wheel of fortune duration coincide with 10s full burst?

modest widget
radiant rain
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Grandma is eternal, she ain't going to the retirement home

stone palm
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oh, I see

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so her S1 and S2 must trigger before 10s ends

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I see, so Isabel only

neat dune
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wait... her own buff ends before fb ends

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so you need reduced lowered fb timee

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normal fb bricks her

tame burrow
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Which is only Isabel

radiant rain
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Isabel and arcana

thorny lava
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electric raid

  • cindy rouge maiden crown helm
  • exia lil mermaid ein anis grave
  • isabel arcana liter trina scarlet
  • tia naga mpriv tove soda
  • RAPI SOLO CARRY, BETTER THAN ALICE/SBS
radiant rain
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Sbs not used in this raid

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Powercreep

midnight juniper
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Miranda Mihara tech

modest widget
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doesn't Cinderella burst snapshots?
does it get buffed by Helm S2?

radiant rain
static vale
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mihara solo carried this raid

chilly hound
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where in her skills does she do this? pepeThink

radiant rain
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Somehow her dot is 1 hit

stone palm
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buff when FB ends BUT

tame burrow
stone palm
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she must be in her own burst

radiant rain
chilly hound
stone palm
spare tree
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isabel treasure in 2077 guys kekw

neat dune
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she needs her burst buff to be active when fb ends

midnight juniper
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TL;RD
She gains WoF from bursting, 10 secs
After FB ends, if she's in WoF, she gives buffs for last B3 Electric burster

neat dune
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she bricks herself

static vale
midnight juniper
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So you need to shorten FB duration to make her buff work

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=> Isabel

chilly hound
midnight juniper
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No Isabel => FB duration = 10sec => WoF expried => no buff

solid cliff
midnight juniper
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This explains clearly her mechanic

static vale
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but wof expires anyway

stone palm
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also her burst reduces 6s cd

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to match up with 5s less FB

thorny lava
stone palm
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still need to run her with another CDR too

midnight juniper
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She's 40s, that's why she can only focus on 1 burster right now

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And that's Isabel

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No other choices

thorny lava
neat dune
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isabel trasure confirmed

thorny lava
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that's why

midnight juniper
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Arcana bursts + Isabel burst = WoF + FB duration 5 sec

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FB ends => still have 5 sec WoF => S1 S2 activates

tame burrow
thorny lava
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arcana gonna be 10/10/1

static vale
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depends

tame burrow
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Why instant meta? Cause they'll probably jack up the numbers on her other skills if they really give a Pilgrim Treasure upgrade

static vale
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why not level burst it's more dmg

tame burrow
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Which is a very fucking slim chance of happening

static vale
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if you want more atk dmg you level burst

quick trellis
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Why aren't these two just one blurb on one skill

static vale
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you know why

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so they can pretend to be generous with skill books

pearl pilot
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Isabel support?

static vale
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and then fuck us over anyway

quick trellis
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In fact, all of S1 and all of S2 could be cleanly combined

modest widget
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so standard units gets favourite items
pilgrims get dedicated B2s like Arcana and Trina

quick trellis
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I'm going to do that righ tnow

sturdy hazel
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so basically she's Isabel partner like how Trina is for Scarlet?

static vale
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yes

sturdy hazel
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i'll skip her, but she's hot

static vale
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don't be fooled by the people who say pull trina for 2.5 anni

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same situation again

olive ridge
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how are u able to get the wheel of fortune buff in 2nd burst

static vale
stone palm
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pull trina for Scarlet

static vale
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you get it burst 1 - 3 - 5 - 7 etc

stone palm
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if you against it, remove her from your pvp team

spare tree
olive ridge
sturdy hazel
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i don't have Isabel
most likely i'll get her as a offrate for the collab/3 year anniversary

solid cliff
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Shitup should have done her S1 S2 affect all Elec allies without that previously casted condition tbh, this single line make her kit useless beyond buffing a single B3 that is Isabel ScarletCopium

sturdy hazel
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so i predict that we'll have a regular banner after Arcana and then Summer 2025?

static vale
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they learned from trina who was somewhat helpful for more than just scarlet

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shiftup won't make that mistake again

tacit forge
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their lesson learned is my gain
as I won't roll DoroSus

solid cliff
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Isabel slave nothing more nothing less, kit literally wouldn't even work without Isabel FrimaSleep

sturdy hazel
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what's next, limited summer 2025 or the collab?

static vale
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1 more at least

chilly hound
midnight juniper
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^

static vale
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people just need to find a glitch that somehow reduces burst timer

solid cliff
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0.5 buff 😂

frozen vigil
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tfw the next unit released is a FB reducer kekw

chilly hound
little karma
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I think 0.5 reduce fb is more cope than isabel treasure

chilly hound
static vale
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this is a trend now btw

old pilgrims get buffed through 1 character hyper focused on making them better

who is next?

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could be harran

stone palm
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u mad bro

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it's Noah

little karma
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You know what more funny
All of them are electric too

stone palm
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yeah

drowsy vale
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clip rl or not?

stone palm
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probably Harran next lol

static vale
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no clip

drowsy vale
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aight

frozen vigil
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absolute over-spec when

little karma
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Harran supp could be stack up like flora and dot guaranteed crit

neat dune
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does she make other b3 burst a lot more right

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mabe its a cindy unit

spare tree
neat dune
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more burst better damage

frozen vigil
neat dune
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vesti "upgrade" confirmed electric then right

fringe lagoon
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Harren support just gives her charge bug back Doro

static vale
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@stone palm in that cindy + scarlet trina team could it be better to do isabel + arcana?

cindy gets to burst more too while isabel's cycle is shortened

spare tree
static vale
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this could be the scarlet trina powercreep

solid cliff
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Shitup be like:
Slight buff to old Pilgrims to make them relevant again <- _NAAAHHH
Release waste of space, kit bricked without it's focused niche <- HHHHEEEELLLLL YEEEAAAAHHHHH 🤑 🤑 🤑 💰 💰

raw hill
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what is that

frozen vigil
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someone will figure out some weird but effective team comp

pearl pilot
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and Drunk Scarlet?

tacit forge
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the reason gachas don't buff because it doesn't generate moolah

pearl pilot
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wait wait

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oh nvm

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I was thinking of T. Frima

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but with her cdr

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..

frozen vigil
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mayhaps a arcana trina team as others have said

static vale
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could be cindy rouge isabel b2 arcana

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for electric weak 1 team boss

vague crane
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So, is there a way to use Ariana's burst every burst rotation? Or do you necessarily need a second b2 with her? On top of a cdr?

eternal ether
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🫃Rouge Liter Isabel Vesti

little karma
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You do know she 40s cd burst right

eternal ether
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you heard it here first

unborn tapir
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So ass + skip?

tame burrow
rocky girder
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She's cute

tame burrow
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B3 Elec only who reduces FBR

tacit forge
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low prio, only usable in electric raids

solid cliff
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Translucent panties line won't save this betch AnisSquish

static thistle
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imagine pulling for arcana if you dont' have isabel

solid cliff
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I will get her via SR malds

quick trellis
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I've removed the unnecessary fluff to her kit layout

vague crane
tacit forge
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also is her artist dduckkong?

rocky girder
pearl pilot
vague crane
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Idk if it could work

tame burrow
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Don't forget needing the FB reduction

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Or else her gimmick falls flat

vague crane
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Even if you wait a few seconds every burst

static thistle
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so you must run isabel + vesti but a second b2 is also needed

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the team is not yet complete

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vesti needs her b2 buffer

tame burrow
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She doesn't benefit from Arcana's gimmick

static thistle
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vesti treasure cope

tame burrow
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Cause she's b3 water, not elec

spare tree
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isabel alt in 2077 trust kekw

vague crane
pearl pilot
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Guys

static thistle
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oh right the fb needs to end with arcana's burst

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lmao

pearl pilot
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Guys

tame burrow
static thistle
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not every fb

pearl pilot
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That s2 of hers will enable us to run a non-CDR B1 buffer

tame burrow
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Regular FB ends at 10s

solid cliff
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Most of her dmg buff lies in wheel of fortune urggg, need FB reduction unit to get the kit into work, currently solely Isabel, perhaps future unit with FB reduct that is

vague crane
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Ohhh

tame burrow
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WoF ain't outlastin' that

vague crane
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I see I see

frozen vigil
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buffs kick in when fb ends, wouldn't the next rotation be benefiting from them?

quick trellis
tame burrow
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With Isabel, there's 4.9ish second to spare

static thistle
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ok nvm now the cope is somehow a magical b3 unit that has cdr and also electric

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to support arcana

static thistle
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we need a support for the support

vague crane
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But, with that burst cooldown :/ ...

static thistle
tacit forge
tame burrow
static thistle
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oh wait you know who else has s2 with cd and is also electric

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og maiden

tame burrow
tame burrow
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She ain't benefitting from Arcana's buff

static thistle
tame burrow
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Cause Maiden OG doesn't cut the full burst

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So no beeg juicy buffs for her

static thistle
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next cope: support unit that lengthens burst skill buff active time by 1s

vague crane
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So, overall this is just a bait banner for Isabel fans

static thistle
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just so that arcana's wof can work in any 10s burst team

left dome
static thistle
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see it has a cooldown

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maiden pvp return

left dome
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Perma taunt Maiden new meta letsgo.

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Maiden treasure next?

vague crane
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I think arcana would have worked pretty well, if it wasn't for that 40 s cooldown

left dome
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Hope not lost?

vague crane
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Having to use her, Isabel AND a second b2 is way too much to ask for

steep hollow
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it actually wouldnt help her to have 20s cooldown rn

spare tree
left dome
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You don't have to use Isabel, though?

static thistle
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unless there is way to make isabel burst every 20s

left dome
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Oh

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Rip

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Wheel of fortune is 10s

vague crane
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Well, another filler banner

left dome
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The B3 buff only works on Isabel then

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Pretty shitty value too

vague crane
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And less hopes for a pilgrim favorite item

static thistle
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yeah so you have to use isabel's fb reduction and because there still isn't enough cdr to make both arcana + isabel burst with every rotation it's still trash

vague crane
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Looks they'll just make Hyper specific support units like trina

static thistle
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if wof lasts 1 more second that would make her 40s cd worth lmao

vague crane
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Instead

static thistle
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and for wof to trigger every fb

vague crane
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Such a shame, I wanted to have the commanders undies as a favorite item

static thistle
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with isabel around skk can't find his undies

tacit forge
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there's no way that an isabel/arcana team will outdo the usual cindy team in neutral AdmiOno

median valve
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if i understand the kit.... should one play
Isabel | Rouge | Scarlet | Arcana | Trina
???

solid cliff
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Wof last for 11 wouldn't even make any difference
Still need to account for manual burst gen + slight delay in between ScarletCopium ScarletCopium

left dome
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The good thing is she might be clip RL

static thistle
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the issue is trina/arcana exist only to hyperbuff their specific b3s

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rather than the whole team

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it's a losing proposition

median valve
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already seeing the 40s CD on a B2 was a turn off..

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then the kit being restrictive to ONE unit, so far, was the nail on the coffin

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well 2 but who uses maiden

steep hollow
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shes not clip

vague crane
spare tree
vague crane
#

But yeah, they are basically favorite items that take up 1 extra nikke slot

steep hollow
#

Cindy has Rouge?

spare tree
median valve
#

i would love to say "ye treasure isabel gon save her" but in 5 months... there will be at least 2~3 better B3 Elec with dank S2 effect

spare tree
static thistle
#

chime b3 electric

median valve
vague crane
light monolith
#

holy giga electric buffer

solid cliff
#

Dunno what kinda statistical analysis being done in shitup's end preventing them slightly tweaking day 1 Pilgrims and re-run them banners
Old Pilgrims literal cash cow being left on the table ScarletCopium

vague crane
#

Since red hood all have been bonkers

#

In their own way

#

Minus crown, she just kills any other B2 xd

static thistle
#

I mean doro was bonkers for her time

#

and is still a crutch for whale

solid cliff
#

CN Doro absolute fire

median valve
#

doro surviving through memes now

solid cliff
#

Shitup already fixed up her kit in CN, why not rolling out to global and make filthy 💰💰💰

eternal ether
#

gahca skin too

vague crane
eternal ether
#

then give everyone else more numbers

solid cliff
vague crane
#

They are bound to at least gave some niche

eternal ether
#

90% of Nikkes already useless

solid cliff
#

In CN atleast

eternal ether
#

what's a few more atp

steep hollow
#

red hood already out of meta on coreless/partless neutral sr

#

or close

median valve
#

pull to goon
pixiv: bonjour

eternal ether
#

Yepp and pierce has been struggling lately

#

Iron is hard carried by Rapipi

static thistle
#

true damage still dead

eternal ether
#

was never alive tbh

vague crane
#

If something it looks they are making pilgrims and overspecs more gimmicky, look at midhara

eternal ether
#

they sold us dreams with Laplace and Frima

eternal ether
vague crane
#

Have them be broken, but under specific conditions

left dome
#

If any

#

Rouge MastM Arcana Cindy Isabel

#

Dont see any other teams being possible

eternal ether
#

Mihara is just good in a world of demons

left dome
#

There is one benefit of Arcana tho

#

Overlooked

eternal ether
#

surely collab unit will slot well with Arcana

vague crane
left dome
#

You save 5s on unoptimal burst rots

#

Which means you save 35s

eternal ether
#

we aren't due treasure anytime soon I think

vague crane
#

She can match rapi

left dome
#

Which means

#

Cindy can burst 9 times instead of 7

#

With Arcana

vague crane
#

That's already good on its own

left dome
eternal ether
#

Maths guys tell us if that's good

left dome
#

Non elemental

#

Neutral electric

#

Cant really kick out xmaiden and sanis when it comes to elemental

eternal ether
#

ngl if Cindy wasn't a unit already using uncontested Nikkes this would only be even better

left dome
#

But u need MastM

#

Mari wont work

#

Anchor wont work

eternal ether
#

💔the issue is needing Isabel

#

most have those units built atleast

left dome
#

Theoretically

#

Cinderella Rouge Isabel MastM Arcana should have the best neutral Electric DPS, but no one knows where that might be of use.

#

Because the game mode that requires that just doesn't exist.

forest karma
#

overcock

left dome
#

Overcock wants ELE though.

rare ember
#

maybe we'll see overclock infinity that doesn't lock ele

#

after cycling through all ele

thorny lava
#

wit this other unit buffing old pilgrim unit

gonna be buff doro (privaty treasure trust)

left dome
#

Cinderella Rouge Isabel Crown Arcana should have good neutral Electric DPS, but no one knows where that might be of use. You shouldn't split Maids in Raids, and Cindy SAnis XMaiden should still dominate in ELE, especially with Crown.

Notable things:

  • This team allows Cindy to burst 9 times instead of the usual 7. Go figure.
  • Lingering 50% ATK team buff + 10% Damage Taken + 10% ATK DMG for the next Burst rotation after Arcana-Isabel rotation. Need to rotate VERY fast.
  • End-of-Burst buffs, which means they get applied to the next Burst Skill's damage, like Cinderella's or Scarlet's. The regular ATK is small but the ATK DMG is very good for Cindy, who doesn't have any ATK DMG.
stone palm
#

Dont use mast m lol

#

Also with optimal rotations, you can do max 18fb

#

So 9 cindy nuke

#

Not bad i say

astral furnace
#

What is su cooking

rare ember
#

treasure as a new nikke KEKL

left dome
#

Oh damn.

tacit forge
#

cram it down before shitup nerfs her

left dome
#

FUCK.

#

Ure right.

#

But.

#

Its for the burster.

thorny lava
#

mast stunned after third burst

left dome
#

Meh.

left dome
stone palm
#

U know what is creepier?

left dome
#

Just use Crown then.

stone palm
#

Nvm

#

I tripped

#

Thinking of buff extenders

#

Like xmica

left dome
stone palm
#

But i remember it doesnt work

left dome
#

Or is it

#

Hmm

tepid night
worn cipher
#

So how good

left dome
#

Shit

#

I actl was expecting her to work with MastM but I forgot MastM stun herself

worn cipher
#

I'm pulling arcana

left dome
#

@stone palm what B2 pairs with her best

worn cipher
#

Mari evangelion

rare ember
#

what if we have another B2 for vesti like arcana for isabel KEKL

#

then it's duo ele team but burst very often

left dome
#

Which means 2/7× more damage

rare ember
#

vesti treasure

vague crane
#

Isabel out of all things?

rare ember
#

isabel will get almost 100% uptime on arcana 15s *2 180% atk buff

worn cipher
#

Why tf is electric getting so many units and different archetypes

spare tree
tame burrow
worn cipher
#

Wait for someone to run true dmg team with arcana

tame burrow
#

Even a garbage like her will deal nuke tier of damage with 2x 180% atk buff

spare tree
sturdy hazel
tame burrow
#

Especially Isabel on third burst rotation

vague crane
sturdy hazel
tame burrow
#

Red Hood

#

Hair is red and is red all over the place

#

Iron

vague crane
#

Playable k and a water code pilgrim, 2 things will never get

tame burrow
#

Doro exists

sturdy hazel
#

or Mihara's CHAIN overspec which's Fire for some reason

tame burrow
#

Unless you specifically mean DPS

spare tree
#

surely next white dressed unit is elec right?

sturdy hazel
#

i wonder which element Eve will be

#

i predict Electric AR

vague crane
worn cipher
sturdy hazel
#

which Weapon?

worn cipher
tame burrow
#

Stellar Blade

#

Blade

#

Blade is made of Iron

#

There

vague crane
#

Imagine nayuta out of all things ends up being water code xd

worn cipher
#

Steel blade. Flint and steel

tame burrow
#

SG Water B2 Defender?

#

I know they scrapped that and she'll be different

rocky girder
#

Next raid should be water weak again

sturdy hazel
#

and then they'll release Eve as a Fire MG

tame burrow
vague crane
#

Well, guess will have to wait for overspecs helm or something

tame burrow
tame burrow
#

It's Red Hood

#

You can use her on every content and she'll work just fine

#

Until Rapipi took that spot

sturdy hazel
#

Modernia?

clever phoenix
vague crane
clever phoenix
#

I don't even hate her

tame burrow
vague crane
#

She was the best during her time

radiant rain
#

So trina-scarlet seems like the best teammates?

clever phoenix
#

It's because of the dev biases towards that one character is what pissed me off.

vague crane
#

Until someone random school girl cake and beat her on her own game xd

tame burrow
#

Also hitcount shield and projectile enemies

clever phoenix
#

While not giving other characters the same treatment

vagrant dock
#

So is it true that Arcana's wheel of fortune buffs will not activate with the base 10s full burst duration, because the buff lasts 10s?

tame burrow
#

Hence Isabel synergy

#

Only Isabel

#

FB reducer and Elec B3

vagrant dock
#

I thought the buffs would tick at the very last instant and thought of Cindy and such, but then I read other people talking about this

#

I also checked, and only OG Maiden and Isabel even get any effect from the skill 2 CDR LOL

clever phoenix
#

Like I didn't even mind Helm having a gacha skin

vague crane
vagrant dock
#

I'm expecting an Isabel favorite item now, I suppose that's how this goes

spare tree
tame burrow
spare tree
#

or overspec when they are already old unit

tame burrow
#

Specifically Inherit

vague crane
vagrant dock
#

I don't believe for a moment that Isabel can be meta with Arcana tacked onto her

clever phoenix
#

I don't think they'll give Pilgrims a treasure.

tame burrow
#

Holy shit most of Inherit sucks

vagrant dock
#

Scarlet had fallen off but she was a top tier B3 for a long time

#

Isabel is horrid

spare tree
clever phoenix
#

Next is that we will have a Harran buffer

tame burrow
#

I think she fell off before RH is even a thing

vagrant dock
#

Scarlet is 100% meta in ele advantage SR, no question about it

#

Isabel, I have a lot of doubts

tame burrow
#

Still admirable she stuck around in pvp due to her gimmick

vague crane
#

Here I'm hoping for something for snow white

tame burrow
vague crane
#

The burst is cool, but that's about it xd

vagrant dock
#

Snow White already got Miranda, but they forgot CDR

tame burrow
#

She's just THAT bad

vagrant dock
#

I'm very curious about this, because Arcana as a unit is designed to fail

tame burrow
#

Do people still use Snow White nuke in this day and age?

tame burrow
radiant rain
#

With 180% att abd att damage, even meh nikke hit like a truck

vagrant dock
#

And there is strong evidence the anniversary didn't really turn out well for SU

vague crane
tame burrow
#

If her existence is solely to prop up Isabel, I think she's successful

#

But if her existence is to push a new playstyle then yes, she failed

#

DOA even

vagrant dock
#

But almost nobody wants to prop up Isabel to begin with

#

Favorite items don't have a 5th Nikke cost attached to them, they're just buffs

spare tree
tame burrow
#

Why would you gimp your 3 other teammate when you can run a braindead Crown/Rapipi/Siren/SBS or Cindy or Alice/HelmT comp?

#

Produced way better result

tame burrow
vagrant dock
#

I knew for sure they would continue releasing random Nikkes instead of going through the backlog, but this is something else entirely

tame burrow
#

It's just Vesti but Elec and her % improved to Pilgrim tier

radiant rain
spare tree
vague crane
tame burrow
radiant rain
#

Eventually neutral comps will get pushed out from solo raids

tame burrow
#

She's 100% DOA on that front

tame burrow
spare tree
radiant rain
tame burrow
#

Someone at SU is definitely hydrophobic

#

Hates Water like it killed their parents or smth

spare tree
#

well at least we all know one thing
fire and elec is on the run
wind and iron gets stray bullets once in a while
water dead in the water

radiant rain
vagrant dock
#

Isabel doesn't even reduce full burst duration at all times, it's only when she does it

vague crane
#

Maybe they are saving overspecs water code k for next ani

vagrant dock
#

The other electric B3, who will be far superior to her, can't even get Arcana's buffs

tame burrow
clever phoenix
vagrant dock
#

It's such stupid design it borders on hilarious

radiant rain
#

Tailored for isabel

tame burrow
spare tree
vagrant dock
#

You're harming your invested top tier Nikkes just to buff one of the worst Pilgrims ever created

clever phoenix
#

We already have like 2 water solo raids

#

Like you don't believe that Bready can carry?

radiant rain
vagrant dock
#

And so what?

#

You need to dump rocks on her to get ele dmg bonuses, at least 3, preferably 4

#

You really want to do that for Isabel, just for this? Will other people do it?

#

If she doesn't have that, she's not even worth considering, even with Arcana

vague crane
#

Well, at least gogacha is happy now xd

radiant rain
#

So now we ignoring older units?

tame burrow
radiant rain
#

And when we get must pull units

#

People complain SU not giving them time to recuperate

tame burrow
#

His main issue is that Arcana is basically the equivalent of Mercy's pocket healslut but only for Isabel

vagrant dock
#

I never complained about that

#

Arcana is a pocket Mercy for a terrible unit that practically nobody has investment in, and she breaks herself even when trying to buff the other B3 in the team

tame burrow
#

Trina still gave something decent for her teammate with healing, atk buff and AoE damage buff

#

Despite being Scarlet's hypeman

vagrant dock
#

Trina was a pocket Mercy for a B3 that was still meta in electric SR

radiant rain
#

Arc also buffs allies right?

vagrant dock
#

Arcana's big buffs are Isabel-only

tame burrow
spare tree
vagrant dock
#

No, it's just Isabel

clever phoenix
#

To trigger WoF

vagrant dock
#

The big buffs only happen if burst time is reduced, and Isabel only does it on her own

#

Also Isabel doesn't even get the buffs on her own full burst

#

This is far too much

radiant rain
#

But the 15s will cover the next FB

spare tree
vagrant dock
#

It won't be her full burst, though, it will be the other B3's

#

And the other B3 doesn't get the big Arcana buffs

radiant rain
#

But FB buff affects all

clever phoenix
clever phoenix
#

That's why Arcana is stuck on Isabel duty

vagrant dock
#

The only buffs that matter are the ones only Isabel gets, and she never gets while she's bursting herself

spare tree
tame burrow
#

Everything stays the same but she's Elec and her % gets ramped up to Pilgrim tier of busted

clever phoenix
#

Damn
I got triple "hence"d

spare tree
#

well prolly biggest question is why buffing isabel of all unit? kekw

#

pretty sure most isabel simp from early days are gone now

clever phoenix
#

Look at how much Arcana can buff Isabel again

vagrant dock
#

My biggest question is why any Nikke would be designed like Arcana

tame burrow
#

but rather than priority

#

They use dartboard

#

And it happened to land on 'fix Isabel'

vagrant dock
#

Who cares about upgraded Absolute and Matis being playable, right?

vagrant dock
#

Immediately

radiant rain
#

Trina is hyperfocused in buffing scarlet. Her burst doesn't heavily buffs any other nikke

vagrant dock
#

I don't want to hear "too soon" unless it's about Siren because of not talking with SKK ever

tacit forge
radiant rain
#

Same as arc for isabel

vagrant dock
#

I guess this is technically better than useless supports like Bay and Clay, PvP excluded

sturdy hazel
vagrant dock
#

At least a handful of people might use Arcana

solid gate
#

depressed all I wanted was her to be clip...

vagrant dock
#

I was thinking, would other B3s even want her if she worked on them?

#

The answer would be obviously yes, but she only buffs non-burst damage, and most of the meta B3s damage off burst is horrible

solid gate
#

Scar and Cindy do decent offburst

vagrant dock
#

SBS might be the best at that, but this would be replacing the maids

drowsy vale
tepid night
#

this character looks ass until she isn't

#

just you wait for them to release a 5 second electric burst 3

#

then she's gonna be fire

compact aurora
#

They really making character-specific supports now?

static vale
#

yep it's the new thing on the scene after trina for scarlet they are just doing this shit

compact aurora
#

Eh, better than literally useless units, no?

static vale
#

honestly i do think so

tepid night
#

you wanted new treasures

#

now swipe for them kekmorbL

#

if they add a character that passively reduces burst duration then she could buff harran too

#

but that'll never happen because cinderella

#

harran cucked to death

#

isabel gacha skin soon

river shuttle
prisma summit
#

Harran needs a slime boss which splits into smaller pieces everytime it takes enough damage

static vale
#

harran can get that virus transfer mechanic buffed up if they want to do taht

sturdy hazel
stone palm
#

Isa dmg looks good, but I may be tripping

tepid night
#

the other ones eh

stone palm
#

I can't even think straight

tepid night
#

but isabel is so crippled she should have just had a treasure

static vale
#

i see a huge amount of buffs any character would go apeshit with so i'm just assuming isabel is good now

sturdy hazel
#

i wonder, we'll get another normal banner after Arcana, and then it'll be Summer 2025 or the collab afterwards?

lavish umbra
#

collab

#

arcana > normal > collab > 1-3 normal > summer

sturdy hazel
#

who do you think it'll be the next banner?
i predict an alt actually

tepid night
#

bready swimsuit

sturdy hazel
#

for Summer 2025 i predict Summer Elegg (Iron B3 SG) and Summer Trony (Iron B2 RL)

static vale
#

lol if they want to make money then characters like trony won't appear again

zinc horizon
#

so does this mean we're getting isabel treasure or someshit?

livid geode
#

Instead of buffing Isabel, SU flirt with us using Arcana.

#

If Arcana is a future unit, I will let my future self get her from the standard banner.
Skip kekw

static vale
zinc horizon
#

that's hilarious

lavish umbra
#

give us summer talentum

#

summer dolla and rupee

#

oh wait guys I made a fatal error

#

bunnies are next banner

#

arcana > bunnies > collab > 1-3 normal banners > summer

radiant rain
#

after summer we getting another collab

astral furnace
#

She is so goofy

spare tree
median valve
#

Do we have a final verdict yet? pin only saying thats shes a breeding facility

quartz wyvern
#

What’s the consensus guys RougeStare

dapper tulip
#

the cooks haven't even started wahahaha

#

chill out

solid gate
#

where the meth cooks

quartz wyvern
#

Time to go cooking meth peeps

tawdry meteor
#

Exists only to make isabel stronger, now the game is telling me to invest on isabelCrownSmug

stone palm
#

hm her burst has 10% AD and 10% DT

#

actually not bad

#

just mid

lament pollen
#

buff unit : NO
buff unit with another unit: I like that
ahh Shift UP

sturdy hazel
#

next: Modernia buffer

stone palm
#

my brain is dead today but from napkin meth, she increases Isabel dmg by 7.5 times

#

should be enough to put Isabel as "something"

sturdy hazel
#

i wonder what kinda of Modernia Buffer we'll have next

stone palm
#

not to mention she allows Cinderella to burst back to back

#

a Cinderella Rouge Isabel Crown Arcana may be

#

and you want to burst Isabel first

#

with very fast burst gen, you may squeeze 9 nuke for Cinderella

sturdy hazel
#

S-Anis instead of Cinderella?

stone palm
#

more burst rotation normally suits for nuke

#

so Scar Trina or Cinderella Crown whatever

#

I mean you can run Sanis too

#

nothing stops you. She's not worth that

sturdy hazel
#

someone mentioned using Arcana with Maiden too
PVP?

static vale
#

what is the idea in pvp even

stone palm
#

why?

static vale
#

the buffs happen post burst

stone palm
static vale
#

first you have to burst and then you have to survive for 5s with isabel or 10s with maiden

#

what would that look like when b2 is taken by arcana and blanc/noah are off the table

stone palm
#

And there is no buff after maiden

#

Only isabel can trigger ot

static vale
#

no maiden is completely fucked but i was wondering what the cook was supposed to be

stone palm
#

I mean, arcana cant buff maiden

static vale
#

how will acana survive any nuke? she's just dead

#

yep i know it's not happening

#

just some low atk% on burst

#

or whatever she gives

#

but for isabel

#

i don't know if there's a way to survive and actually make use of arcana's post burst buffs

#

her entire 'activates when full burst ends' criteria is impossible to work with

polar granite
static vale
#

ar in pvp?

#

that's just asking for trouble

#

now you have a 4rl team or something lol

#

this character looks strictly pve

tight condor
#

On the one hand i prefer these supports that buff old pilgrims.. rather then just crap stuff like bay, clay, flower girl

But if even scummy FGO can buff old units directly surely nikke can

Can't we just do both pref without the 6 month favorite items system.. they clearly recognize (from CN) that some of the day 1 units are laughably bad

normal tundra
stone palm
#

huh

normal tundra
#

Swift like the Doro

#

ShiftUp did it again

#

They made Vesti cry

#

And it’s a 40s CD B2

#

Feels like the synergy atm is Trina + Scarlet + Arcana

#

With Isabel thrown into it

#

And Arcana has to burst with Isabel

#

Isabel (SG), Scarlet (AR), Arcana (RL), Trina (RL), Mystery B1

stone palm
#

it's Siren

#

SMG

#

the circle is completed

normal tundra
#

Sure, sure. Then that’s the PvE team, basically. Or could be any B1 CDR. Even Exia if yolo but it’s probably painful.

#

Now.. is it any good? TOMstare

stone palm
#

or rouge to fight Peekaboo

#

of course

#

not

#

may be we can do Rapi B1 here

#

so we have 3 DPS on their own

normal tundra
#

Maybe even Zwei for full electric KEKL

#

Well, I’ll let someone else bite the bullet with Isabel

#

Oh, could still run with Vesti

#

Just not good

#

Hmm

#

The worst part is probably that they’re planning an Overclock infinity where you wish you invested in Isabel and Arcana TOMstare

vagrant dock
#

What's being cooked now, I don't remember Arcana doing anything for Scarlet

astral furnace
#

She almost does nothing for anyone else but Isabel

#

For now*

sturdy hazel
#

i did remember that Moran is also an Electric AR
does Trina help her very well or she's bad even with Trina?

dapper tulip
sturdy hazel
#

i know this is Arcana's thread, i just want to know if somehow she helps other Electric units that Trina also helps

astral furnace
#

Arcana only buffs electric B3s

#

That specifically have a 5 seconds burst

worn cipher
#

I don't understand

#

Oh shit I understand

#

You have to shorten full burst duration or else she will loose her wheel status and buffs won't apply. Wtf

astral furnace
#

Yeah her big pp buff only procs if she is in WoF status. Which only last 10 seconds after she casts her burst. And since FB lasts 10 seconds it won't activate on anyone that doesnt have a 5 seconds burst

little karma
#

Its specifically targetted to Isabel
And people dont need to expect future units released that Arcana gonna buff like when Trina out people think theres gonna be new electric AR even tho their intent are already blantantly easy to see for buffing Scarlet
SU aint that smart and thinking long for the future they just see okay this unit need buff then release this unit for her and done not thinking about the future at all lol

worn cipher
#

I only wonder if they will be viable enough for neutral solo raid because for sure they'll be usable o electric. I'm waiting for the results of Isabel lovers

#

Ummmm

#

I think I cooked something myself I think someone already came up with it but I'm to lazy to check

#

So what if we just put isabella with arcana into shotgun team with drake treasure?

#

Tove , leona, Isabella, arcana , drake treasure for example

little karma
#

First you need tove if you want sg team and she b1 already
Then you min cdr
And arcana is 40s cd
So you need b2 with cdr for it to even works and theres none of that
With your team most of your time will be wasting time with no full burst

worn cipher
#

How much cdr you need?