dapper tulip
She is an extrovert through and through, with a friendly personality that makes her able to get along with just about anyone.
The brand new Supporter Type, Electric Element, Rocket Launcher, Burst 2 Nikke, Arcana has been announced.
Put all findings surrounding Arcana's mechanics here.
You may discuss the character here as well, like what their uses are in PvE or PvP content.
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livid geode
First
forest karma
first = dick suckers
livid geode
tame burrow
team
b1 arcana isabel trina scarlet
B1 must be CDR
But then again, is there any PvP usage? Isabel on first rotation absolutely sucks
static vale
imagine you don't have that 
vernal mirage
Eve support 
tacit forge
you know what the joke is?
isabel is still shit even with arcana, bet 
tame burrow
you know what the joke is?
isabel is still shit even with arcana, bet <:Doro:114...
Most likely
coral wagon
Her design a must pull for me
river shuttle
tame burrow
Arcana herself is 40s
midnight juniper
Isabel treasure
dapper tulip
skip
static vale
learn from the past remember when everyone said trina confirmed electric ar for 2.5 anni?
learn from it or look like a fool again
rocky girder
tame burrow
Isabel bombard incoming
So Doro tier of bombard during her burst?
midnight juniper
Arcana herself is a unit for future
Like Tove when she came out
It's very intereseting if they really make Isabel treasure
static vale
isabel s2 for reference
midnight juniper
fleet heart
skip
tame burrow
isabel s2 for reference
Still skip
vernal mirage
is it enough CDR if using 2 b1 cdr+ Arcana+Isabel for single b3
tame burrow
75% reduction would make it approx 3s per one activation
thorny lava
electric eating good
iron doko?
rocky girder
Iron doesn't exist
river shuttle
What?
tacit forge
what's that?
fleet heart
isabel treasure coming
rocky girder
Next SR prolly water trust me
tame burrow
You'd get nuked before you kill anyone
rocky girder
river shuttle
isabel treasure coming
thorny lava
put arcana with cindy team works?
static vale
You'd get nuked before you kill anyone
meanwhile shotgun killing half the teams in the championships
well for you it's a skip i don't think you know how to play that mode
radiant rain
Liter should be the best for 5s FB
midnight juniper
She has CDR, looks promising
tame burrow
meanwhile shotgun killing half the teams in the championships
well for you it's...
Bold of you to imply I even give a damn about a mode that doesn't give me gems to roll
fleet heart
40s kinda doa
tame burrow
PvP Arena is where it's at
midnight juniper
To rush the next burst
So next full burst you will have her buff + that full burst buff
radiant rain
Arcana+isabel burst
midnight juniper
Looks very promising to me
river shuttle
Isabel Vesti
radiant rain
She reduces CDR for Liter so it removes the awkward 2nd burst timing
midnight juniper
Yeah and you can still burst immediately on next one
radiant rain
Than liter into trina + scarlet
midnight juniper
After 2nd one everything is already ramped up
radiant rain
Than you duo again, arcana+ isabel
tame burrow
Than liter into trina + scarlet
SR team only then
vernal mirage
Scarlet got her support, Isabel with Arcana, Harran next 
tame burrow
Cause you realistically ain't pulling this comp to campaign
midnight juniper
so Isabel treasures looks like a spell caster
Not depend on normal atk and chained into SG comp
spare tree
So how sex she is guys?
tame burrow
Scarlet got her support, Isabel with Arcana, Harran next <:prayge:11559804992783...
if they just reworked her predator skill to just require full burst rather than killcount, she'd instantly be better
spare tree
dapper tulip
spare tree
ah I see
absolutely tactical facility
tame burrow
So basically Solo Raid elec team with Arcana would be
Liter > Arcana > Isabel > Liter > Trina > Scarlet > Liter > Arcana > Isabel
tame burrow
Or EVE is gonna be an electric unit
Isabel getting cucked again
dapper tulip
https://fixvx.com/NIKKE_japan/status/1922617260482732035/video/1
1 reload for whole mag
tame burrow
Gotta love to see that
modest widget
Arcana Cinderella, how many nukes in 3 minutes?
tame burrow
1 reload for whole mag
So no pvp relevancy
solid cliff
Scemmer ass medium 🔮
SKIP 
floral leaf
Her condition for buffs is to be in wheel of fortune status after fb end, but wheel of fortune only lasts for 10 seconds
spare tree
Arcana Cinderella, how many nukes in 3 minutes?
pretty sure cindy doesnt have s2 nuke?
tame burrow
Her condition for buffs is to be in wheel of fortune status after fb end, but wh...
Which is why you need Isabel
floral leaf
Thats mean she need isabel's -5 second fb buff to even work
solid cliff
modest widget
I misunderstood her kit
so she's another "signiture weapon"
like Trina to Scarlet
tame burrow
I misunderstood her kit
so she's another "signiture weapon"
like Trina to Scarle...
More like super specific niche
modest widget
Isabel Arcana Trina Scarlet on the same team?
tame burrow
B3 Elec who cuts FB time
thorny lava
Isabel Arcana Trina Scarlet on the same team?
well yes
tame burrow
Isabel Arcana Trina Scarlet on the same team?
With Liter
tame burrow
does Arcana herself provide enough CDR?
No, you need another B2
midnight juniper
if you read this right
thorny lava
6s + ramp up from liter
tame burrow
Her CDR is 6s
modest widget
could run ExiaT if Arcana solo CDR is enough
vernal mirage
the two support gave such big numbers to their "partner"
modest widget
No, you need another B2
which is why I suggested Scarlet Isabel Arcana Trina
tame burrow
isabel skill 2 gonna be 3,75s
It adds up in Solo Raid
rocky girder
Also guy, another electric b2
tame burrow
But it still sucks in pvp
tame burrow
B1 + Arcana + Isabel
So basically if you're using Trina Scarlet in that comp, Scarlet will benefit from it in the 3rd rotation with Isabel bursting?
midnight juniper
After 5sec FB ends, we still have 5 secs WoF buff
thorny lava
kick alice sbs from team
midnight juniper
But she has CDR, so the next burst most likely instantly , below 5sec
midnight juniper
And the result is the 2nd B3 burst gets her buff too
solid cliff
40 secs CDR niche buffer
Mediums ain't beating real King anytime soon 
midnight juniper
So basically if you're using Trina Scarlet in that comp, Scarlet will benefit fr...
2nd rotation
Let me write
Liter + Arcana + Isabel, WoF activates , 5sec FB ends
Still have 5 secs WoF
tame burrow
Liter + Arcana + Isabel, WoF activates , 5sec FB ends
AHHHHH
I GET IT NOW
(AFTER FB ENDS)
So Scarlet bursting counts
even at 2nd rotation
static vale
is there any electric b1 that would want her buffs
midnight juniper
Let me check again
rocky girder
Exia
midnight juniper
If it's tight or not
tame burrow
Exia
Does Exia even will receive that buff?
It specifically says only b3 elec gets the juiciest buffs
thorny lava
exia provides reload buff
thorny lava
as scarlet with 20ammo just....
tame burrow
Ezia provides copium cuz no CDR
Liter is better
tame burrow
as scarlet with 20ammo just....
Just roll OL
static vale
it is not enough of course because she is a b2 40cd
tame burrow
even in the condition you immediately bursts right after with Trina Scar
tight condor
If they somehow salvage isabel god awful kit.. I will be impressed
thorny lava
liter fully ramp up 8s
arcana 6s
tame burrow
You'd have 10s to burn of FBR
vernal mirage
can spamming trina enough for burst gen? but then by the time scarlet using b3 might be already over
thorny lava
1st burst gonna be whacky
thorny lava
560% damage + 180% attack damage on skill 2
tame burrow
invest in your Isabel
untold veldt
Don't let this deter you from Stellar blade Collab
vernal mirage
getting arcana means investing in 2 units
static vale
every buff requiring her to burst herself is a bit of a downer as well as all her probably not being clip either
isabel isn't clip either
thorny lava
trina is clip
so provides burst gen
tame burrow
Don't let this deter you from Stellar blade Collab
The key is to just aim for a single copy of Arcana
spare tree
Don't let this deter you from Stellar blade Collab
good thing I never care about collab so I can safely pull
static vale
i'm looking out for pvp
vernal mirage
no raid in schedule, waiting for last day of the banenr
tame burrow
Prob we will have enough burst gen with Arcana only
More like Trina fills that genning role
modest widget
does Cinderella Rouge Isabel Crown Arcana work
tame burrow
does Cinderella Rouge Isabel Crown Arcana work
No
tame burrow
Cinderella Rouge comp is better with the usual team
Cause now you can legally use Trina Scarlet in SR without any wasted buffers
modest widget
define better
static vale
product 8
modest widget
I just want to know if it works
static vale
also big buffs
tame burrow
define better
Cindy/Rouge/Ein/SAnis or XMaiden/Mari
midnight juniper
at this rate we will have 3 electric comps in SR
tepid night
Intern-kun...
midnight juniper
tepid night
Why are there two copies of her skill 1
thorny lava
at this rate we will have 3 electric comps in SR
4 if you count SG
solid cliff
Lol just read the skill again, Wheel of fortune only last 10s 
stone palm
herr number looks quite stonk
thorny lava
electric sg team with naga
stone palm
I think it's enough to compensate which ass buff
for someone, I don't know
Guillotine
Scarlet
thorny lava
10/10/1
midnight juniper
Arcana's buff currently only affect Isabel so far
static vale
180% atk damage
180% atk
does look passably good
solid cliff
Isabel the only -5 secs full burst right
midnight juniper
Ofcourse you can pair this duo with Cindy to speed up the burst
modest widget
we know Arcana only works with Isabel
the question is do we make a new team with Trina to equally spread damage
or we slot her in with Cinderella for more nukes across 3 minutes
tame burrow
Isabel the only -5 secs full burst right
Yep
midnight juniper
modest widget
Ofcourse you can pair this duo with Cindy to speed up the burst
someone gets it
finally
thorny lava
team 5 gonna be rapi neutral b3 than alice-sbs combo
stone palm
only S2?
cuz I fail to see her burst can't buff other DPS
and who even cares about S2 lol
midnight juniper
someone gets it
I got what you mean earlier
But that wont be better than the current mono electric comp
Isabel is still useless now
Have to wait for treasure
static vale
how about with sanis for pvp?
buffing s2 with 180% attack damage is not so bad
tame burrow
Will FB time and wheel of fortune duration coincide with 10s full burst?
modest widget
But that wont be better than the current mono electric comp
using Isabel at all is a dps loss
wasted if we put her with Crown
but the idea works
radiant rain
Grandma is eternal, she ain't going to the retirement home
neat dune
wait... her own buff ends before fb ends
so you need reduced lowered fb timee
normal fb bricks her
radiant rain
Isabel and arcana
thorny lava
electric raid
midnight juniper
electric raid
- cindy rouge maiden crown helm
- exia lil mermaid ein anis grave
...
wrong, not Rapi solo carry anymore
Miranda Mihara tech
modest widget
doesn't Cinderella burst snapshots?
does it get buffed by Helm S2?
radiant rain
Miranda Mihara tech
static vale
mihara solo carried this raid
chilly hound
where in her skills does she do this? 
radiant rain
Somehow her dot is 1 hit
stone palm
where in her skills does she do this? <:pepeThink:609747582985437184>
read her S1 and S2
buff when FB ends BUT
tame burrow
where in her skills does she do this? <:pepeThink:609747582985437184>
Read up on how her s1 and s2 works based on FB ending early
stone palm
she must be in her own burst
radiant rain
where in her skills does she do this? <:pepeThink:609747582985437184>
She get isabel to shorten for her
chilly hound
read her S1 and S2
s1 and s2 all says when full burst ends...
stone palm
s1 and s2 all says when full burst ends...
ANDDDD
spare tree
isabel treasure in 2077 guys
neat dune
s1 and s2 all says when full burst ends...
her burst buff is 10 seconds, if you burst normally that buff ends before fb ends because its b2
she needs her burst buff to be active when fb ends
midnight juniper
TL;RD
She gains WoF from bursting, 10 secs
After FB ends, if she's in WoF, she gives buffs for last B3 Electric burster
neat dune
she bricks herself
static vale
where in her skills does she do this? <:pepeThink:609747582985437184>
there's nothing that says it must be shortened ngl
chilly hound
midnight juniper
No Isabel => FB duration = 10sec => WoF expried => no buff
solid cliff
Ofcourse you can pair this duo with Cindy to speed up the burst
Pairing Arc + Isabel with Cinderella as second B3 means one gotta burst within the remaining 5s right?
Pulling this off will need another 20s B2 as buffer, massive cope comp
midnight juniper
This explains clearly her mechanic
static vale
but wof expires anyway
thorny lava
Miranda Mihara tech
is that new neutral team
bcoz you can variate it with other element unlike elec mono
stone palm
still need to run her with another CDR too
midnight juniper
She's 40s, that's why she can only focus on 1 burster right now
And that's Isabel
No other choices
thorny lava
still need to run her with another CDR too
liter
thorny lava
that's why
midnight juniper
Arcana bursts + Isabel burst = WoF + FB duration 5 sec
FB ends => still have 5 sec WoF => S1 S2 activates
chilly hound
her burst buff is 10 seconds, if you burst normally that buff ends before fb end...
aah best explanation 
tame burrow
isabel trasure confirmed
Anyone bursting when she's in the team will reduce the FB time by 5s, not just her
Instant Meta
thorny lava
arcana gonna be 10/10/1
static vale
depends
tame burrow
Why instant meta? Cause they'll probably jack up the numbers on her other skills if they really give a Pilgrim Treasure upgrade
static vale
why not level burst it's more dmg
tame burrow
Which is a very fucking slim chance of happening
quick trellis
Why aren't these two just one blurb on one skill
static vale
and then fuck us over anyway
quick trellis
In fact, all of S1 and all of S2 could be cleanly combined
modest widget
so standard units gets favourite items
pilgrims get dedicated B2s like Arcana and Trina
quick trellis
I'm going to do that righ tnow
sturdy hazel
so basically she's Isabel partner like how Trina is for Scarlet?
static vale
yes
sturdy hazel
i'll skip her, but she's hot
olive ridge
how are u able to get the wheel of fortune buff in 2nd burst
static vale
how are u able to get the wheel of fortune buff in 2nd burst
you're not able to
static vale
you get it burst 1 - 3 - 5 - 7 etc
spare tree
how are u able to get the wheel of fortune buff in 2nd burst
when they release isabel alt
olive ridge
sturdy hazel
i don't have Isabel
most likely i'll get her as a offrate for the collab/3 year anniversary
solid cliff
Shitup should have done her S1 S2 affect all Elec allies without that previously casted condition tbh, this single line make her kit useless beyond buffing a single B3 that is Isabel
sturdy hazel
so i predict that we'll have a regular banner after Arcana and then Summer 2025?
static vale
they learned from trina who was somewhat helpful for more than just scarlet
shiftup won't make that mistake again
tacit forge
their lesson learned is my gain
as I won't roll 
solid cliff
Isabel slave nothing more nothing less, kit literally wouldn't even work without Isabel
sturdy hazel
what's next, limited summer 2025 or the collab?
static vale
1 more at least
chilly hound
FB ends => still have 5 sec WoF => S1 S2 activates
so in theory she can also works if SU release an unit who only reduce full burst time by like 0.5 sec? 
little karma
so in theory she can also works if SU release an unit who only reduce full burst...
They wont do that lmao
static vale
people just need to find a glitch that somehow reduces burst timer
solid cliff
0.5 buff 😂
frozen vigil
tfw the next unit released is a FB reducer
chilly hound
They wont do that lmao
little karma
I think 0.5 reduce fb is more cope than isabel treasure
chilly hound
static vale
this is a trend now btw
old pilgrims get buffed through 1 character hyper focused on making them better
who is next?
could be harran
little karma
You know what more funny
All of them are electric too
stone palm
yeah
drowsy vale
clip rl or not?
stone palm
probably Harran next lol
static vale
no clip
drowsy vale
aight
frozen vigil
absolute over-spec when
little karma
Harran supp could be stack up like flora and dot guaranteed crit
spare tree
~~absolute over-spec when~~
when they become ultra tactical
neat dune
more burst better damage
frozen vigil
when they become ultra tactical
fringe lagoon
Harren support just gives her charge bug back
static vale
@stone palm in that cindy + scarlet trina team could it be better to do isabel + arcana?
cindy gets to burst more too while isabel's cycle is shortened
spare tree
vesti "upgrade" confirmed electric then right
absolute overspec vesti electric?
static vale
this could be the scarlet trina powercreep
solid cliff
Shitup be like:
Slight buff to old Pilgrims to make them relevant again <- _NAAAHHH
Release waste of space, kit bricked without it's focused niche <- HHHHEEEELLLLL YEEEAAAAHHHHH 🤑 🤑 🤑 💰 💰
raw hill
what is that
neat dune
Shitup be like:
Slight buff to old Pilgrims to make them relevant again <- **_N...
it worked for trina 
frozen vigil
someone will figure out some weird but effective team comp
pearl pilot
someone will figure out some weird but effective team comp
how about pairing her with Flora and Ein?
and Drunk Scarlet?
tacit forge
Shitup be like:
Slight buff to old Pilgrims to make them relevant again <- **_N...
I would do the second
fills up filler banners 
the reason gachas don't buff because it doesn't generate moolah
frozen vigil
how about pairing her with Flora and Ein?
vague crane
So, is there a way to use Ariana's burst every burst rotation? Or do you necessarily need a second b2 with her? On top of a cdr?
eternal ether
🫃Rouge Liter Isabel Vesti
little karma
You do know she 40s cd burst right
eternal ether
you heard it here first
unborn tapir
So ass + skip?
tame burrow
🫃Rouge Liter Isabel Vesti
Vesti doesn't benefit from her buff
rocky girder
She's cute
tame burrow
B3 Elec only who reduces FBR
tacit forge
low prio, only usable in electric raids
solid cliff
Translucent panties line won't save this betch 
static thistle
imagine pulling for arcana if you dont' have isabel
solid cliff
I will get her via SR malds
quick trellis
I've removed the unnecessary fluff to her kit layout
vague crane
You do know she 40s cd burst right
Yeah that's why I ask, she has a 6 s cdr herself but idk if is enough
tacit forge
also is her artist dduckkong?
rocky girder
pearl pilot
also is her artist dduckkong?
seems like it
vague crane
Yeah that's why I ask, she has a 6 s cdr herself but idk if is enough
Like her + RAPI let's say ya a 13 s cdr or something
Idk if it could work
vague crane
Even if you wait a few seconds every burst
static thistle
so you must run isabel + vesti but a second b2 is also needed
the team is not yet complete
vesti needs her b2 buffer
tame burrow
so you must run isabel + vesti but a second b2 is also needed
No, Vesti is a waste of space
She doesn't benefit from Arcana's gimmick
static thistle
vesti treasure cope
tame burrow
Cause she's b3 water, not elec
spare tree
so you must run isabel + vesti but a second b2 is also needed
you basically playing future comp again
except this time you need fb reducer that is elec
isabel alt in 2077 trust
vague crane
Don't forget needing the FB reduction
That's what I still don't understand, her kit doesn't mentions fb reduction at all
pearl pilot
Guys
pearl pilot
Guys
tame burrow
That's what I still don't understand, her kit doesn't mentions fb reduction at a...
10s WoF, her juicy buffs will only trigger if WoF is still active when FB ends
static thistle
not every fb
pearl pilot
That s2 of hers will enable us to run a non-CDR B1 buffer
tame burrow
Regular FB ends at 10s
solid cliff
Most of her dmg buff lies in wheel of fortune urggg, need FB reduction unit to get the kit into work, currently solely Isabel, perhaps future unit with FB reduct that is
vague crane
Ohhh
tame burrow
WoF ain't outlastin' that
vague crane
I see I see
frozen vigil
buffs kick in when fb ends, wouldn't the next rotation be benefiting from them?
quick trellis
I've removed the unnecessary fluff to her kit layout
Can a mod pin my version, it's way easier to read
tame burrow
With Isabel, there's 4.9ish second to spare
static thistle
ok nvm now the cope is somehow a magical b3 unit that has cdr and also electric
to support arcana
tame burrow
ok nvm now the cope is somehow a magical b3 unit that has cdr and also electric
inb4 Eva
static thistle
we need a support for the support
vague crane
But, with that burst cooldown :/ ...
tacit forge
ok nvm now the cope is somehow a magical b3 unit that has cdr and also electric
still waiting for that trina cope
their tove moments will be arriving anyyyy day now 
tame burrow
still waiting for that trina cope
their tove moments will be arriving anyyyy day...
Huh? Trina is VERY relevant in PvP
spare tree
ok nvm now the cope is somehow a magical b3 unit that has cdr and also electric
isabel overspec 
vague crane
ok nvm now the cope is somehow a magical b3 unit that has cdr and also electric
What code is neon?
solid cliff
isabel overspec <:SUS:1107239959347339284>
tame burrow
She ain't benefitting from Arcana's buff
static thistle
What code is neon?
og neon is fire, summer neon is water
static thistle
next cope: support unit that lengthens burst skill buff active time by 1s
vague crane
So, overall this is just a bait banner for Isabel fans
static thistle
just so that arcana's wof can work in any 10s burst team
left dome
vague crane
I think arcana would have worked pretty well, if it wasn't for that 40 s cooldown
left dome
Hope not lost?
vague crane
Having to use her, Isabel AND a second b2 is way too much to ask for
steep hollow
it actually wouldnt help her to have 20s cooldown rn
spare tree
I think arcana would have worked pretty well, if it wasn't for that 40 s cooldow...
since flora we knew su likes to slap random 40 sec cd on b1 and b2 for unknown reason
left dome
You don't have to use Isabel, though?
static thistle
unless there is way to make isabel burst every 20s
vague crane
Well, another filler banner
vague crane
And less hopes for a pilgrim favorite item
static thistle
yeah so you have to use isabel's fb reduction and because there still isn't enough cdr to make both arcana + isabel burst with every rotation it's still trash
vague crane
Looks they'll just make Hyper specific support units like trina
static thistle
if wof lasts 1 more second that would make her 40s cd worth lmao
vague crane
Instead
static thistle
and for wof to trigger every fb
vague crane
Such a shame, I wanted to have the commanders undies as a favorite item
static thistle
with isabel around skk can't find his undies
tacit forge
there's no way that an isabel/arcana team will outdo the usual cindy team in neutral 
median valve
if i understand the kit.... should one play
Isabel | Rouge | Scarlet | Arcana | Trina
???
solid cliff
Wof last for 11 wouldn't even make any difference
Still need to account for manual burst gen + slight delay in between
left dome
The good thing is she might be clip RL
static thistle
the issue is trina/arcana exist only to hyperbuff their specific b3s
rather than the whole team
it's a losing proposition
median valve
already seeing the 40s CD on a B2 was a turn off..
then the kit being restrictive to ONE unit, so far, was the nail on the coffin
well 2 but who uses maiden
steep hollow
shes not clip
vague crane
the issue is trina/arcana exist only to hyperbuff their specific b3s
Well, is partially because their b3 suck to begin with, imagine an specific hiper buffer for RAPI or Cindy :p
spare tree
the issue is trina/arcana exist only to hyperbuff their specific b3s
that to prevent overspec pilgrim with 0.5% rate
vague crane
But yeah, they are basically favorite items that take up 1 extra nikke slot
steep hollow
Cindy has Rouge?
spare tree
But yeah, they are basically favorite items that take up 1 extra nikke slot
normal unit: here is their treasure
pilgrim unit: here pull more
so basically future outdated pilgrim and overspec is going to be like this seems like
median valve
i would love to say "ye treasure isabel gon save her" but in 5 months... there will be at least 2~3 better B3 Elec with dank S2 effect
spare tree
i would love to say "ye treasure isabel gon save her" but in 5 months... there w...
but would they have burst reduce
static thistle
chime b3 electric
median valve
vague crane
normal unit: here is their treasure
pilgrim unit: here pull more
so basically f...
At least the newest pilgrims are more power creep proof than before
light monolith
holy giga electric buffer
solid cliff
Dunno what kinda statistical analysis being done in shitup's end preventing them slightly tweaking day 1 Pilgrims and re-run them banners
Old Pilgrims literal cash cow being left on the table
vague crane
Since red hood all have been bonkers
In their own way
Minus crown, she just kills any other B2 xd
solid cliff
CN Doro absolute fire
median valve
doro surviving through memes now
solid cliff
Shitup already fixed up her kit in CN, why not rolling out to global and make filthy 💰💰💰
spare tree
Shitup already fixed up her kit in CN, why not rolling out to global and make fi...
fix in cn?
vague crane
I mean doro was bonkers for her time
Yeah but, tell me how you power creep red hood, RAPI, Cindy on their entirety without completely ruining the game
eternal ether
Yeah but, tell me how you power creep red hood, RAPI, Cindy on their entirety wi...
Give more numbers
then give everyone else more numbers
solid cliff
fix in cn?
got her kit buffed
vague crane
They are bound to at least gave some niche
eternal ether
90% of Nikkes already useless
solid cliff
In CN atleast
eternal ether
what's a few more atp
median valve
pull to goon
pixiv: bonjour
static thistle
true damage still dead
eternal ether
was never alive tbh
vague crane
If something it looks they are making pilgrims and overspecs more gimmicky, look at midhara
eternal ether
they sold us dreams with Laplace and Frima
eternal ether
If something it looks they are making pilgrims and overspecs more gimmicky, look...
nah they just takin the piss 100% anniversary Pilgrim will power creep
vague crane
Have them be broken, but under specific conditions
eternal ether
Mihara is just good in a world of demons
eternal ether
surely collab unit will slot well with Arcana
vague crane
Mihara is just good in a world of demons
She is good for bossing when the boss isn't imune to debuffs
eternal ether
we aren't due treasure anytime soon I think
vague crane
She can match rapi
vague crane
That's already good on its own
left dome
eternal ether
Maths guys tell us if that's good
left dome
Maths guys tell us if that's good
Probably the best electric team?
Non elemental
Neutral electric
Cant really kick out xmaiden and sanis when it comes to elemental
eternal ether
ngl if Cindy wasn't a unit already using uncontested Nikkes this would only be even better
left dome
Theoretically
Cinderella Rouge Isabel MastM Arcana should have the best neutral Electric DPS, but no one knows where that might be of use.
Because the game mode that requires that just doesn't exist.
forest karma
overcock
left dome
Overcock wants ELE though.
rare ember
maybe we'll see overclock infinity that doesn't lock ele
after cycling through all ele
thorny lava
wit this other unit buffing old pilgrim unit
gonna be buff doro (privaty treasure trust)
left dome
Cinderella Rouge Isabel Crown Arcana should have good neutral Electric DPS, but no one knows where that might be of use. You shouldn't split Maids in Raids, and Cindy SAnis XMaiden should still dominate in ELE, especially with Crown.
Notable things:
stone palm
Dont use mast m lol
Also with optimal rotations, you can do max 18fb
So 9 cindy nuke
Not bad i say
rare ember
treasure as a new nikke 
tacit forge
cram it down before shitup nerfs her
thorny lava
mast stunned after third burst
left dome
Meh.
left dome
mast stunned after third burst
True.
stone palm
U know what is creepier?
left dome
Just use Crown then.
left dome
mast stunned after third burst
Actually not
stone palm
But i remember it doesnt work
tepid night
worn cipher
So how good
worn cipher
I'm pulling arcana
left dome
@stone palm what B2 pairs with her best
worn cipher
Mari evangelion
rare ember
what if we have another B2 for vesti like arcana for isabel
then it's duo ele team but burst very often
left dome
what if we have another B2 for vesti like arcana for isabel <:KEKL:1008348072637...
I think the main benefit of Arcana is allowing the other B3 to burst 2x more
Which means 2/7× more damage
vague crane
I think the main benefit of Arcana is allowing the other B3 to burst 2x more
But is that enough to justify using Isabel?
Isabel out of all things?
rare ember
isabel will get almost 100% uptime on arcana 15s *2 180% atk buff
worn cipher
Why tf is electric getting so many units and different archetypes
spare tree
But is that enough to justify using Isabel?
ask su of why they bother to buff isabel for a few isabel fans
altough ngl there is more of them in early days but
they are gone now
tame burrow
But is that enough to justify using Isabel?
Yes
worn cipher
Wait for someone to run true dmg team with arcana
tame burrow
Even a garbage like her will deal nuke tier of damage with 2x 180% atk buff
spare tree
Why tf is electric getting so many units and different archetypes
she is blue so she is surely water right?
su: yes she is electric
sturdy hazel
Why tf is electric getting so many units and different archetypes
Fire also got massively buffed on the past 8-9 months
tame burrow
Especially Isabel on third burst rotation
vague crane
she is blue so she is surely water right?
su: yes she is electric
Tell that to the wind code mermaid
sturdy hazel
she is blue so she is surely water right?
su: yes she is electric
like when Trina's design looks like Wind but she's Electric for some reason
rare ember
Tell that to the wind code mermaid
tame burrow
Tell that to the wind code mermaid
Colorcoding is cucked ever since Red Hood
Red Hood
Hair is red and is red all over the place
Iron
vague crane
Playable k and a water code pilgrim, 2 things will never get
tame burrow
Playable k and a water code pilgrim, 2 things will never get
You mean proper Water DPS
Doro exists
sturdy hazel
or Mihara's CHAIN overspec which's Fire for some reason
tame burrow
Unless you specifically mean DPS
spare tree
like when Trina's design looks like Wind but she's Electric for some reason
if they wear white they are electric
cindy is elec
arcana is elec
trina is elec
surely next white dressed unit is elec right?
vague crane
You mean proper Water DPS
Pilgrim level DPS my bad
worn cipher
i predict Electric AR
Wind
sturdy hazel
which Weapon?
worn cipher
which Weapon?
I dunno
tame burrow
i predict Electric AR
No, she'd be Iron because why the fuck not
Stellar Blade
Blade
Blade is made of Iron
There
vague crane
Imagine nayuta out of all things ends up being water code xd
worn cipher
Steel blade. Flint and steel
tame burrow
Imagine nayuta out of all things ends up being water code xd
Isn't that how her leak goes?
SG Water B2 Defender?
I know they scrapped that and she'll be different
rocky girder
No, she'd be Iron because why the fuck not
Nah that code doesn't exist wdym iron lol
Next raid should be water weak again
sturdy hazel
and then they'll release Eve as a Fire MG
tame burrow
Nah that code doesn't exist wdym iron lol
Have some respect for the first universal DPS ever released
vague crane
Well, guess will have to wait for overspecs helm or something
vague crane
Have some respect for the first universal DPS ever released
Scarlet?
tame burrow
Well, guess will have to wait for overspecs helm or something
Oh dear, if that happens, I can bet my ass that @clever phoenix will be pissed beyond hell
tame burrow
Scarlet?
Scarlet is day 1 NIKKE
It's Red Hood
You can use her on every content and she'll work just fine
Until Rapipi took that spot
sturdy hazel
Modernia?
clever phoenix
Oh dear, if that happens, I can bet my ass that <@94634049871548416> will be pis...
When did you claim that I hate Helm or something?
vague crane
You can use her on every content and she'll work just fine
Well, same with scarlet, so long you have ammo and a healer
clever phoenix
I don't even hate her
tame burrow
When did you claim that I hate Helm or something?
Rather than hate, I just know you're going on a tirade about Helm favoritism
vague crane
She was the best during her time
radiant rain
So trina-scarlet seems like the best teammates?
clever phoenix
It's because of the dev biases towards that one character is what pissed me off.
vague crane
Until someone random school girl cake and beat her on her own game xd
tame burrow
She was the best during her time
*until Blanc and Naga got powercrept
Also hitcount shield and projectile enemies
clever phoenix
While not giving other characters the same treatment
vagrant dock
So is it true that Arcana's wheel of fortune buffs will not activate with the base 10s full burst duration, because the buff lasts 10s?
tame burrow
So is it true that Arcana's wheel of fortune buffs will not activate with the ba...
Correct
Hence Isabel synergy
Only Isabel
FB reducer and Elec B3
vagrant dock
I thought the buffs would tick at the very last instant and thought of Cindy and such, but then I read other people talking about this
I also checked, and only OG Maiden and Isabel even get any effect from the skill 2 CDR LOL
clever phoenix
Like I didn't even mind Helm having a gacha skin
vague crane
I thought the buffs would tick at the very last instant and thought of Cindy and...
She is Isabel's favorite item on Nikke form, so immediate skip
clever phoenix
I thought the buffs would tick at the very last instant and thought of Cindy and...
No it's not
vagrant dock
I'm expecting an Isabel favorite item now, I suppose that's how this goes
spare tree
I'm expecting an Isabel favorite item now, I suppose that's how this goes
expect this for every pilgrim
tame burrow
expect this for every pilgrim
*Day 1 Pilgrims
spare tree
or overspec when they are already old unit
tame burrow
Specifically Inherit
vague crane
I'm expecting an Isabel favorite item now, I suppose that's how this goes
They did the same with Trina and scarlet
vagrant dock
I don't believe for a moment that Isabel can be meta with Arcana tacked onto her
clever phoenix
I don't think they'll give Pilgrims a treasure.
tame burrow
Holy shit most of Inherit sucks
spare tree
*Day 1 Pilgrims
nah pretty sure in the future this is how they buff older units once they done with all day 1 pilgrim
clever phoenix
Next is that we will have a Harran buffer
tame burrow
Scarlet had fallen off but she was a top tier B3 for a long time
For about a year, I think?
I think she fell off before RH is even a thing
vagrant dock
Scarlet is 100% meta in ele advantage SR, no question about it
Isabel, I have a lot of doubts
tame burrow
Still admirable she stuck around in pvp due to her gimmick
vague crane
Here I'm hoping for something for snow white
tame burrow
Isabel, I have a lot of doubts
Rather than doubt, we wouldn't be talking about Isabel at all if Arcana didn't specifically only buff her
vague crane
The burst is cool, but that's about it xd
vagrant dock
Snow White already got Miranda, but they forgot CDR
tame burrow
She's just THAT bad
vagrant dock
I'm very curious about this, because Arcana as a unit is designed to fail
tame burrow
Do people still use Snow White nuke in this day and age?
tame burrow
I'm very curious about this, because Arcana as a unit is designed to fail
Depends on how you want to look at it
radiant rain
With 180% att abd att damage, even meh nikke hit like a truck
vagrant dock
And there is strong evidence the anniversary didn't really turn out well for SU
vague crane
Do people still use Snow White nuke in this day and age?
No that I know
tame burrow
If her existence is solely to prop up Isabel, I think she's successful
But if her existence is to push a new playstyle then yes, she failed
DOA even
vagrant dock
But almost nobody wants to prop up Isabel to begin with
Favorite items don't have a 5th Nikke cost attached to them, they're just buffs
vague crane
And there is strong evidence the anniversary didn't really turn out well for SU
Why? The gatcha skin drama?
spare tree
I'm very curious about this, because Arcana as a unit is designed to fail
depends if they gonna add more elec b3 burst reducer in the future
tame burrow
Why would you gimp your 3 other teammate when you can run a braindead Crown/Rapipi/Siren/SBS or Cindy or Alice/HelmT comp?
Produced way better result
tame burrow
depends if they gonna add more elec b3 burst reducer in the future
inb4 TACTICAL UP Vesti
vagrant dock
I knew for sure they would continue releasing random Nikkes instead of going through the backlog, but this is something else entirely
tame burrow
It's just Vesti but Elec and her % improved to Pilgrim tier
radiant rain
Why would you gimp your 3 other teammate when you can run a braindead Crown/Rapi...
But there's 5 teams needee for SR
spare tree
>inb4 TACTICAL UP Vesti
if vesti alt turned out to be elec with all her burst reducer still intact
I will be surprised
coz I will never expect that
vague crane
depends if they gonna add more elec b3 burst reducer in the future
Overspecs summer anis
tame burrow
But there's 5 teams needee for SR
No, I'm talking about campaigning
radiant rain
Eventually neutral comps will get pushed out from solo raids
tame burrow
She's 100% DOA on that front
tame burrow
Eventually neutral comps will get pushed out from solo raids
Except for Water
spare tree
Overspecs summer anis
inb4 anis overspec is elec b3 reducer
bruh
radiant rain
She's 100% DOA on that front
I agree on this but she gonna be usee in electric raids
tame burrow
Someone at SU is definitely hydrophobic
Hates Water like it killed their parents or smth
spare tree
well at least we all know one thing
fire and elec is on the run
wind and iron gets stray bullets once in a while
water dead in the water
radiant rain
Someone at SU is definitely hydrophobic
We got alot of good water dps, but no great ones
vagrant dock
Isabel doesn't even reduce full burst duration at all times, it's only when she does it
vague crane
Maybe they are saving overspecs water code k for next ani
vagrant dock
The other electric B3, who will be far superior to her, can't even get Arcana's buffs
tame burrow
Isabel doesn't even reduce full burst duration at all times, it's only when she ...
Hence why she's the only sole beneficiary of Arcana's buff
clever phoenix
Hates Water like it killed their parents or smth
They haven't released an Iron unit in 6 months lol
vagrant dock
It's such stupid design it borders on hilarious
radiant rain
Tailored for isabel
tame burrow
They haven't released an Iron unit in 6 months lol
Iron has Red Hood, Crown, Rapipi to carry them
spare tree
The other electric B3, who will be far superior to her, can't even get Arcana's ...
hence why
b3 elec burst reducer
which is too specific atm
I mean again if vesti overspec is like that
I would be surprised ngl
vagrant dock
You're harming your invested top tier Nikkes just to buff one of the worst Pilgrims ever created
clever phoenix
We already have like 2 water solo raids
Like you don't believe that Bready can carry?
radiant rain
You're harming your invested top tier Nikkes just to buff one of the worst Pilgr...
Why? There's 5 teams for raids
vagrant dock
And so what?
You need to dump rocks on her to get ele dmg bonuses, at least 3, preferably 4
You really want to do that for Isabel, just for this? Will other people do it?
If she doesn't have that, she's not even worth considering, even with Arcana
vague crane
Well, at least gogacha is happy now xd
radiant rain
So now we ignoring older units?
tame burrow
So now we ignoring older units?
It's not even that
radiant rain
And when we get must pull units
People complain SU not giving them time to recuperate
tame burrow
His main issue is that Arcana is basically the equivalent of Mercy's pocket healslut but only for Isabel
vagrant dock
I never complained about that
Arcana is a pocket Mercy for a terrible unit that practically nobody has investment in, and she breaks herself even when trying to buff the other B3 in the team
tame burrow
Trina still gave something decent for her teammate with healing, atk buff and AoE damage buff
Despite being Scarlet's hypeman
vagrant dock
Trina was a pocket Mercy for a B3 that was still meta in electric SR
radiant rain
Arc also buffs allies right?
vagrant dock
Arcana's big buffs are Isabel-only
tame burrow
Arc also buffs allies right?
By a paltry sum, but yes
spare tree
Arc also buffs allies right?
yeah but they need to be b3 elec
vagrant dock
No, it's just Isabel
vagrant dock
The big buffs only happen if burst time is reduced, and Isabel only does it on her own
Also Isabel doesn't even get the buffs on her own full burst
This is far too much
radiant rain
But the 15s will cover the next FB
spare tree
Also Arcana has to burst tho
it is
hence why
if vesti overspec turned out to be elec b3 I will be very surprised ngl
coz I wont even expect that
vagrant dock
It won't be her full burst, though, it will be the other B3's
And the other B3 doesn't get the big Arcana buffs
radiant rain
But FB buff affects all
clever phoenix
it is
hence why
if vesti overspec turned out to be elec b3 I will be very surpri...
But Vesti alt needs to reduce burst time to 5 seconds too or else it's bricked
tame burrow
But Vesti alt needs to reduce burst time to 5 seconds too or else it's bricked
Hence my joke
clever phoenix
That's why Arcana is stuck on Isabel duty
vagrant dock
The only buffs that matter are the ones only Isabel gets, and she never gets while she's bursting herself
spare tree
But Vesti alt needs to reduce burst time to 5 seconds too or else it's bricked
hence why, I will be very surprised
esp if they made vesti kit stronger but keep the reduction intact
tame burrow
Everything stays the same but she's Elec and her % gets ramped up to Pilgrim tier of busted
clever phoenix
Damn
I got triple "hence"d
spare tree
well prolly biggest question is why buffing isabel of all unit?
pretty sure most isabel simp from early days are gone now
clever phoenix
Look at how much Arcana can buff Isabel again
radiant rain
well prolly biggest question is why buffing isabel of all unit? <:kekw:100939463...
Fpr the 5 isabel mains left
vagrant dock
My biggest question is why any Nikke would be designed like Arcana
tame burrow
well prolly biggest question is why buffing isabel of all unit? <:kekw:100939463...
It's probably addressing problem one step at a time
but rather than priority
They use dartboard
And it happened to land on 'fix Isabel'
vagrant dock
Who cares about upgraded Absolute and Matis being playable, right?
tame burrow
Who cares about upgraded Absolute and Matis being playable, right?
Matis is too soon
radiant rain
Trina is hyperfocused in buffing scarlet. Her burst doesn't heavily buffs any other nikke
vagrant dock
I don't want to hear "too soon" unless it's about Siren because of not talking with SKK ever
tacit forge
My biggest question is why any Nikke would be designed like Arcana
filler banners
treasures and straight buffs don't generate income. Better to just make a literally who nikke
radiant rain
Same as arc for isabel
vagrant dock
I guess this is technically better than useless supports like Bay and Clay, PvP excluded
sturdy hazel
Snow White already got Miranda, but they forgot CDR
and Zwei?
vagrant dock
At least a handful of people might use Arcana
solid gate
all I wanted was her to be clip...
vagrant dock
I was thinking, would other B3s even want her if she worked on them?
The answer would be obviously yes, but she only buffs non-burst damage, and most of the meta B3s damage off burst is horrible
solid gate
Scar and Cindy do decent offburst
vagrant dock
SBS might be the best at that, but this would be replacing the maids
drowsy vale
<:depressed:1080373529675046912> all I wanted was her to be clip...
That's the exact opposite of what i want 
tepid night
this character looks ass until she isn't
just you wait for them to release a 5 second electric burst 3
then she's gonna be fire
compact aurora
They really making character-specific supports now?
static vale
yep it's the new thing on the scene after trina for scarlet they are just doing this shit
compact aurora
Eh, better than literally useless units, no?
static vale
honestly i do think so
tepid night
you wanted new treasures
now swipe for them 
if they add a character that passively reduces burst duration then she could buff harran too
but that'll never happen because cinderella
harran cucked to death
isabel gacha skin soon
river shuttle
filler banners
treasures and straight buffs don't generate income. Better to jus...
Treasures generate cash from packs
prisma summit
Harran needs a slime boss which splits into smaller pieces everytime it takes enough damage
static vale
harran can get that virus transfer mechanic buffed up if they want to do taht
sturdy hazel
They really making character-specific supports now?
first started with Zwei for Snow White, later Miranda Treasure for Snow White, Trina for Scarlet and now Arcana for Isabel
stone palm
Isa dmg looks good, but I may be tripping
tepid night
first started with Zwei for Snow White, later Miranda Treasure for Snow White, T...
well Isabel actually needs that so i'm okay with this one
the other ones eh
tepid night
but isabel is so crippled she should have just had a treasure
static vale
i see a huge amount of buffs any character would go apeshit with so i'm just assuming isabel is good now
sturdy hazel
i wonder, we'll get another normal banner after Arcana, and then it'll be Summer 2025 or the collab afterwards?
sturdy hazel
who do you think it'll be the next banner?
i predict an alt actually
sturdy hazel
for Summer 2025 i predict Summer Elegg (Iron B3 SG) and Summer Trony (Iron B2 RL)
static vale
lol if they want to make money then characters like trony won't appear again
zinc horizon
so does this mean we're getting isabel treasure or someshit?
livid geode
Instead of buffing Isabel, SU flirt with us using Arcana.
If Arcana is a future unit, I will let my future self get her from the standard banner.
Skip
static vale
so does this mean we're getting isabel treasure or someshit?
no it means this is the isabel treasure
like how trina was the scarlet treasure
zinc horizon
that's hilarious
lavish umbra
give us summer talentum
summer dolla and rupee
oh wait guys I made a fatal error
bunnies are next banner
arcana > bunnies > collab > 1-3 normal banners > summer
radiant rain
after summer we getting another collab
spare tree
wdym she literally say "time for shadow realm"
median valve
Do we have a final verdict yet? pin only saying thats shes a breeding facility
quartz wyvern
What’s the consensus guys
solid gate
where the meth cooks
tawdry meteor
Exists only to make isabel stronger, now the game is telling me to invest on isabel
lament pollen
buff unit : NO
buff unit with another unit: I like that
ahh Shift UP
sturdy hazel
next: Modernia buffer
stone palm
my brain is dead today but from napkin meth, she increases Isabel dmg by 7.5 times
should be enough to put Isabel as "something"
sturdy hazel
i wonder what kinda of Modernia Buffer we'll have next
stone palm
not to mention she allows Cinderella to burst back to back
a Cinderella Rouge Isabel Crown Arcana may be
and you want to burst Isabel first
with very fast burst gen, you may squeeze 9 nuke for Cinderella
sturdy hazel
S-Anis instead of Cinderella?
stone palm
more burst rotation normally suits for nuke
so Scar Trina or Cinderella Crown whatever
I mean you can run Sanis too
nothing stops you. She's not worth that
sturdy hazel
someone mentioned using Arcana with Maiden too
PVP?
static vale
what is the idea in pvp even
stone palm
why?
static vale
the buffs happen post burst
stone palm
static vale
first you have to burst and then you have to survive for 5s with isabel or 10s with maiden
what would that look like when b2 is taken by arcana and blanc/noah are off the table
static vale
no maiden is completely fucked but i was wondering what the cook was supposed to be
stone palm
I mean, arcana cant buff maiden
static vale
how will acana survive any nuke? she's just dead
yep i know it's not happening
just some low atk% on burst
or whatever she gives
but for isabel
i don't know if there's a way to survive and actually make use of arcana's post burst buffs
her entire 'activates when full burst ends' criteria is impossible to work with
polar granite
her entire 'activates when full burst ends' criteria is impossible to work with
ez, make Eve a b3 electric AR with 20 second cooldown, and reduces full burst by 9 seconds
static vale
ar in pvp?
that's just asking for trouble
now you have a 4rl team or something lol
this character looks strictly pve
tight condor
On the one hand i prefer these supports that buff old pilgrims.. rather then just crap stuff like bay, clay, flower girl
But if even scummy FGO can buff old units directly surely nikke can
Can't we just do both pref without the 6 month favorite items system.. they clearly recognize (from CN) that some of the day 1 units are laughably bad
normal tundra
So this becomes 3.75s CD
normal tundra
Swift like the Doro
ShiftUp did it again
They made Vesti cry
And it’s a 40s CD B2
Feels like the synergy atm is Trina + Scarlet + Arcana
With Isabel thrown into it
And Arcana has to burst with Isabel
Isabel (SG), Scarlet (AR), Arcana (RL), Trina (RL), Mystery B1
normal tundra
Sure, sure. Then that’s the PvE team, basically. Or could be any B1 CDR. Even Exia if yolo but it’s probably painful.
Now.. is it any good? 
stone palm
or rouge to fight Peekaboo
of course
not
may be we can do Rapi B1 here
so we have 3 DPS on their own
normal tundra
Maybe even Zwei for full electric
Well, I’ll let someone else bite the bullet with Isabel
Oh, could still run with Vesti
Just not good
Hmm
The worst part is probably that they’re planning an Overclock infinity where you wish you invested in Isabel and Arcana
vagrant dock
What's being cooked now, I don't remember Arcana doing anything for Scarlet
sturdy hazel
i did remember that Moran is also an Electric AR
does Trina help her very well or she's bad even with Trina?
dapper tulip
sturdy hazel
i know this is Arcana's thread, i just want to know if somehow she helps other Electric units that Trina also helps
sturdy hazel
Isabel (SG), Scarlet (AR), Arcana (RL), Trina (RL), Mystery B1
Moran as an B1?
worn cipher
I don't understand
Oh shit I understand
You have to shorten full burst duration or else she will loose her wheel status and buffs won't apply. Wtf
astral furnace
Yeah her big pp buff only procs if she is in WoF status. Which only last 10 seconds after she casts her burst. And since FB lasts 10 seconds it won't activate on anyone that doesnt have a 5 seconds burst
little karma
Its specifically targetted to Isabel
And people dont need to expect future units released that Arcana gonna buff like when Trina out people think theres gonna be new electric AR even tho their intent are already blantantly easy to see for buffing Scarlet
SU aint that smart and thinking long for the future they just see okay this unit need buff then release this unit for her and done not thinking about the future at all lol
worn cipher
I only wonder if they will be viable enough for neutral solo raid because for sure they'll be usable o electric. I'm waiting for the results of Isabel lovers
Ummmm
I think I cooked something myself I think someone already came up with it but I'm to lazy to check
So what if we just put isabella with arcana into shotgun team with drake treasure?
Tove , leona, Isabella, arcana , drake treasure for example
little karma
First you need tove if you want sg team and she b1 already
Then you min cdr
And arcana is 40s cd
So you need b2 with cdr for it to even works and theres none of that
With your team most of your time will be wasting time with no full burst
worn cipher
How much cdr you need?
dark matrix
