#[Little Mermaid] New Unit Megathread
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We need to check if the new mg thing works on any fps or if there's some way to minmax it 
Here @acoustic aspen
shit, forgot to turn on mine
no bastion or anything

ah
I haven't watched pvp matches in months so I don't know if this is faster than before
,ales smese

I think its still firing at 30
i don't think so
she's a amazing Wind DPS, and Kraken is the most important interception boss since higher damage means more rocks to reroll gear
no longer 26
so whats new comp?
SBS CROWN MANA RRH AND MERMAID?
more rocks means you'll get better gear faster and that makes your account progression faster
Does the setting actually change it in pvp?
Or is it something they always apply serverside?
You'll die to Rocket
Crown-SBS-Siren-Windsuka-Helm
MG is roughly 60 FPS in PVP now
I don't know if they improve their server computing
Wait for coop I guess
Skill recommendation?
To see
but yeah, Rapi zombie feels like a pain in the ass now
Oh my god bru
Oh shit mihara and ros gonna be more potent now
prolly prio S1 first to 10
we gonna see rapi zombie at ca now?
Kisenix posted some above
Can someone find that
I recommend 7/7/4 -> 10/10/7
And yes, prio s1
What
Damn so now rapiH pvp is possible
: Doro :
Holy shit pvp ruined
Rapi viable and slot 1 mihara death fart
Thanks
Brutal
I think im going to 10/10/10 Siren because the Drake event gives you a fuck ton of skill mats
this is wild lmao
might as well
He fell for it
Don't expect shift up to give you more than like one extra book per day from simulation buffs
Do u have recording
is Siren the strongest SMG DPS in the game?
or QEQ still does more damage?
Above
@rancid dome
the Drake event still gives you a lot more mats
ill be fine

Maybe you should lurk the research lab more theres even new thread about that
That visibly looks 60fps and not 30 too :sadge;
Before it used to look 30
yeah kinda there
the only way to get something improved is if SU decided to release a relevant pilgrim unit
have u tried recording one with the setting off for science
fine
guys
at the end someone tested if she helps wasuka?
i forgot i havent build reit and already wanted to try her out 
sad.
my kraken team is briked then
Just do the helm team so you can snooze
i dont havfe more xp for the dolls
real
is she good for kraken
gud
how gud
Quite good
I burned the kitchen 
turning setting on means she will start stunning at 1.9 rl
look above
then say again
turn min attack setting on: O a a shoots 24 ammo per sec
off = 15
every 50 shot, she stuns the target by 3s
so at 1.9 RL, she will stun the first target
whoever she hits the 50th
then it keeps going
basically fixes 30fps issues
it means, you can use her as DPS killer in PVP now

think texas
use your damn head for once

wait so the setting does affect pvp?
bruh
so just turn it off if opponent runs mg or smg
She need doll investment at all?
haha
wonder if the option will be active by default on CA matches

if it does, prepare to get buttfucked 
damn is this the best team for kraken or just yours
Does she replace rapi or liter?
wait so it reduces dmg in 60fps on?
what about if nikke launcher is weird and sometimes it drops from 60fps?
it doesn't bump up your fps, it autocorrects the number of bullets shot at lower fps
10/10/7 is enough for me to kill kraken
Wait kill or stage 7
kill = 9
insane
Siren is Kraken easy mode now
she became a must pull for me

reit is no needed anymore?
Collab aim outside the burst is great too so you can squeeze a bit more dmg on tentacles core
Auto, Rapipi > Siren
liauw, technically speaking. sbs not builded at all or rh, or wasuka
if im going for siren manual

How do you not have SBS built
Sorry, wdym?
🥲
for kraken dps wise.

Still def an upgrade overall
m ymax is stage 5
SBS or not
Should be even more of an upgrade over Rapipi if you use ReiW instead of SBS
oh
even is reit isnt builded
~~in her element ~~
Rapi?
who tf is Windsuka
Wasuka
Wind Asuka
asuke willie
Does it mean she only good for kraken?
or wind asuka
Oh god I forgot she existed
take W either way
I own her and I forgot I had her
Is she gonna replace litter or ssr rapi as b1?
looks like Rapipi sidegrade and straight up better than her on Kraken (unless you auto)
does siren need mlb?
depends on fight
MLB is only for wallpaper
party focus can be useful
Time to 
Sounds about right to me 
I don't even have R doll
Sht rate on blue kits on blue doll
aight im maxing siren
never reached stage 6 before with srapi and rh+ssakura
no ol lines siren both reit
Have u tried wasuka
bricked by crowww
Instead of sakura
thats wasuka
actually wasuka did well with only having 1x atk line black
sbslesss ?
Oh man I already got Naga C3 Stop giving her 
sbs and siren just solos
thats kill or stage 7
sbs is fat yes
both siren,wasuka,sbs
are. lacking love
like serious one
because i dont have stones nor mats
That siren dmg is better than my lv400 siren 
wasuka is 2 ele 3 ammo

worrisome
anyway siren is hot im mlb*ing her no matter what

i like her expression in the battle position guard
4 ele 4 att 1 ammo sbs
not the whole 3 mins tho
i wish to pvp but when i start learning the theory my brain dies
if siren is so good
can she make jackal 0/0/0 good ?
ya but still 
i need more dolls
for sync?
Why save when u can whale
we are forced to 7/7/7 due to event rewards of fomo
fomo?
Is siren really doing more dmg than asukaW in wind weak?
so im forced to read the small event
aight
the 5x5 or something
bro. that siren is so close to overcreep the 2 dps for kraken

whatever the name is
Only if your wasuka is shit
How do you fomo skill upgrades
quest is to get 7/7/7 siren
Drake event?
How much % of sbs or asukaW if assume same ele
Roughly
They barely buffed gold books so you still get giga walled after that
I'm not math boy but a decent SBS is doing around 2,2-2,5b and wasuka 2-2,3b
What's siren relative dmg to them here?
half of sbs
huge 
whats the hc deificit these days
Does the "activates after landing 50 normal attacks" in sirens skill 2 take effect only with normal attacks from siren, or from any ally?
before ol stats and doll cp's it was like 35-40% max if you're god
siren only
500 part is whole team
Yea
Better than ssakura b3? 
It's not a high bar but
How good is little mermaid?
Even higher cp than sbs 
it ended on Wasuka's burst rot, but still
Just look at this dmg lol
92% Ele SBS vs 70% Ele Siren
Guess she’s absolutely op
Hmm
Done 
isnt this because wille dmg taken is benefiting siren every burst cycle, while it wont buff sbs' burst
Who's S.Sakura, we have Siren now 👀
Yea, it cut off before SBS's burst rot
Summer biggest scam last year. One raid and never used them
Oh right
But still pretty good since that's how you gonna use her anyway
I shouldn't be tempted now and gonna wait for mihara 
Thinking of not to spend too many mileage
Nikke
Nice indom targeting.
Turn it on if you want counterattack?
Or Jackal feed?

Oh man.
I hope this is a bug.
apparently works in rookie but not sp
so don't expect it to work in champ either
rookie is usually the odd one of the trio
Is she better than Rapipi for kraken?
massively
yes but only if you don't auto
kraken has become a punching bag lately anyway
because no one cares about others anyways
@viral smelt so u find why shes dealing abnormally more damage than usual?
they didnt give enough equipment fodder to 5/5/5/5 siren
Related to smg speed buff?
rh doesnt actually have infinite ammo, its 99
im assuming you need helm and arm ol to use her for kraken?
i'm running out of shoes 
Its normal
they need to buff gear drops next
Come and join me SR0 gang
Or at least add random gear drops to Kraken like old inyercey
I get that the idea is that you cycle through bosses but gear drops are too random so you can't just switch to a boss when you need it
can someone calc my pull rate 
no
gun dmg multi
Seems like you can use Siren's bubble to help with Harvester's mobs
went all in with 15 and still have 180 blues to spare
Half anniversary and SU is not trying to make us broke?!
Unbelievable, I need to buy a lottery ticket today.
fuck me where do you guys get doll mats
i shouldve used all of it to treasure helm
New mission, the drake one
how's the verdict?
crown is the king
how good is Siren?
Is siren worth investing?
ok so
do we need hit rate for her?

so at least we can hit core at a far distance
if so, how much do we need again?
@rapid badger whats her burst gen per shot
how would you rate Siren on the tier list
Bait...
Yeah but Bready just plaps them all passively
100 pulls, got Ludmilla and Cocoa.
I just bought her, I mean the sign is clearly there.
Doll her...
Can someone test if MG actually fire 60 bps now?
Or might be 80

Cuz i remember the excel sheet thingy says MG can go up to 80
@mighty kraken
!!!!!
two rerolls
Yeah today is my bad day
Pulls are shit even on standard side
Well, I took her for a spin against the Iron boss with the setting turned on 
can I have some Siren team comp?
siren crown +whatever
SSS SSS SSS A
Tribe Tower F160, Siren skills at 7/7/7
Siren Crown Rapipi SBS RH-B1 is best Pilgrim Tower.
I lack Crown and Rapi: Red Hood on my account. I was inactive for a long time but I'm getting back into this for now
I got lucky, pulled one Little Mermaid on Roll No. 23, so I decided to get her skills up and try her out
AFK
Siren is 10/10/7, no doll
with enough investment, you can kill Kraken on afk daily
oh this is interesting
in the event story, the super easy fights
my sbs doesn't follow siren's focus
everyone else does, but sbs does her own thing still
was it easier than before?
much easier
I can use Rapi B3 in Indi
I can burst faster in Ultra still with Rapi B3
I can do comfy run on Harvester cause Siren will kill mobs by herself
No more Rouge sometime stuck CD in MC
Kraken is same, nothing change much
is she the best b1 for mc?
Well I need to do Rouge Helm again to compare
If you play Siren then you have to burst Helm once
And break 4 slippers with her
This was 5 months ago
do you burst first with Rapi or Alice in Invidia
My electric units's stats don't change
Alice first
Im uploading soon
can helmt even break the slippers
Yes
If you burst her once
4 ammo for 4 slippers
4 for burst gen
Just wait my vid
This is 1st slipper with 360% def up
Also you can break without using her burst
If you have some atk lines
My Helm has zero so I had to burst

so she can do it during full burst no issue?
I thought her dmg being an additional proc would cause issues
is siren still better than rapipi in that role tho
No ele 10/10/7 SR5, yeah, should make kraken much easier to clear
Crack
can i do kraken without asukas willie
Back to sbs alice then
Mana
asska skippers in shambles

im not upgrading her just for kraken
some siren testing shooting range vs kraken
taking a bit to show up on blahblah but she has 92 ele, pretty strong 
92? how many rocks did you use
30ish
oh wow

I wonder what the wind raid teams will look like in the future
since it's probably worth trying to maximise Siren's S2 damage
Is:
- Siren/Crown/Mihara/ReiA/Modernia
Insane as a 4MG wind raid team?
crown needs a new slave
prob one with high fire rate
oh wait Crown wants healing
but no good MG gives healing
and no good MG B2 other than crown
can't optimise perfectly
Siren & Crown is definitely a strong combo in wind raids, since Siren is now our best B1 DPS right? So actually benefits from Crown's S1
I guess that means Crown has to give up on her healing in wind raids
Rem 
I was gonna say that
It's here
But Rem wants RL B3 anyway
Rem believers won
So irrelevant

Emma copium
She triggers crown when she gets hit
Sometimes
Yeah but she's a burst less healer so you can burst crown

Huge

They need to add a damage share MG so Emma gets hit more
Wait flora has passive healing too right
Fishs attack her booba
You just need to put her next to crown
Over Load lines:
Cindy: 76% ED 46.54% ATK / SAnis: 62.26% ED 11.11% ATK
Rapi: 98.43% ED 37.4% ATK / Alice: 94.21%ED 31.22% ATK
RH: 90.02% ED 18.69% ATK
XLud: 78.81% ED no ATK / Helm: no atk
SBS: 74.6% ED 30.5% ATK / Siren: 11.81%ATK no ED
Time Stamp
00:00 Mirror Container S9
04:08 Indivilia S9
08:11 Ultra S9
12:17 Harvester S9
16:20 Kraken S9
@keen talon
what should aim for on skill rn? just 7/7/7?
Wtf is Miranda doing on ultra
The liter at home

People actually use treasure Miranda???
Miranda's buff is stronger than Liter
She doesn't have CDR which is really bad, and got covered by Siren
4MG team options for wind raids that want to maximise Siren's personal damage:
- Siren/Crown/Mihara/ReiA/Modernia
- Siren/Crown/Mihara/RapiRH/Xlud
Crown can't get healing without sacrificing a MG slot until we get a B3 or Flex-Slot MG who heals and isn't trash (Emma, Flora).
This means Siren wind raid teams will likely be similar to Cindy&Mari teams, where high investment in dolls/dupes is necessary to survive if running for top spots.
Outside wind raids I think still better to split Siren & Crown to different teams, e.g. for this raid something like:
- Siren/Grave/Asuka/ReiA/Modernia
- Liter/Crown/RapiRH/AsukaW/HelmT
Kraken full auto?
So I'm a bit dumb regarding pvp and I have a question going around , I heard lm is opieop there because of the stun , but does she make a third attack team viable or does she ensure one of the 2 good teams victory ?
Also she's not for defense right

how come AsukaW deals more damage with Siren?
Crown means the ammo refund shouldn't matter
at least not significantly
and RapiRH gives more damage-related buffs doesn't she?
ahh right, full auto so HelmT isn't reliably firing as soon as burst ends
Yeah
Rapis buffs should be better offensively, but Siren also brings the more indirect burst gen & ammo refund
resil cube though?
with Crown that should make reload fairly minimal anyway
oh
with Crown you should run resil
since it means no windup time
especially since no ReiT in the team
well, Siren & Bastion might reach infinite ammo for AsukaW tbh
B1/Crown/Mihara/ReiA/Modernia
when Mihara is in the game, that is

the only meta MG are:
Wasuka isn't neutral, but sure lol
Crown/ReiA/Lewdmilla/Modernia?
This team dont have any burst gain you know
Siren/Crown/RapiRH/AsukaW/Xlud is probably the best 4MG team if you want to maximise Siren's personal damage
wow such ReiA hate
that basically means you're using Xlud in slot 5
since Mod also stinks if not bringing ReiA
and no other MG is decent off-burst
Noooo I don't wanna raise Miranda 
There's some SMG healers and they don't shoot that much slower
Like bunny Alice
Misato too if you're giga coping 
Wait
IDOLL OCEAN 
The siren team healer of your dreams
Can you even put R nikkes in synch?
Soda 
Bunny Alice gives basically nothing but heals in a hypothetical Crown + Siren team where we're already overflowing in reload buffs, at that point you may as well bring Emma or Flora
Same for Misato, but even more extreme
If Suzuka healed off-burst she might be viable since she at least brings a good damage taken debuff
and also isn't SMG like a third of the fire rate?
20 bullets per second instead of 60?
should i just use my gold ticket things to get mermaid
U tried vs liter too?
one copy, yes
if you're truly frugal, wait until the last day of her banner in case you get lucky from the free pulls
the MG focus is really just for her own personal damage more than anything
which outside wind weak, isn't going to be crucial
Thx, nice test
Mg are 60

how does she have less util than rapi??

the b1 with ammo reload and burst gen is less util yes
there's no difference in the rewards between stage 8 and 9 in kraken right?
I guess but you could say the same with siren stun
she got me past a hard campaign stage I was stuck on with 4 trashcans spawning even with a 40k more cp deficit
Full Auto Speedrun Kraken Stage 7 Before QTE with The Little Mermaid.
Just to make your dailies a lot easier and faster 👍
Full Auto Kraken Stage 7 Before QTE with Little Mermaid Siren, Scarlet:Black Shadow, Asuka: Wille and Helm Treasure Phase 3
First Real Recorded Full Auto Stage 7 before QTE @1:40
Yet another breakthrough in the Kraken Full Auto Series where this time, the Full Auto is done before the QTEs and the fight ends after the QTE Nuke making 👉YOUR...
ok you guys wanna check this out
all kraken dailies are now 1min 28 seconds
i made it so you phase 7 and die on the nuke
so u dont have to wait 3minutes
That sounds interesting but ... Is there missile rng lol
nope
Also maybe needs crazy investment
crown taunt will eat it and die
Only have 10/4/4 on asuka and I don't think her lines are crazy good.. maybe next wind sr if I raise her.. still semi full auto is already good for me
this is my current deficit for ref
the mob spawns are just so ass
but yeah ik its not the worst
it's going to depend on what stops you
if it's silencer
3s stun is nuts
a lot of smaller mobs shooting instantly wouldn't help
that sounds like a skill wall
you should be able to dodge them
Siren is def campaign usable for breaking through stages where you have to deal with multiple farters/jellyfish/shields/jailers/debuffers
most of my hard mode struggles were either on silencers with flying stuff nuking someone or bombspiders or both
got out of 26 a while ago thanks to siren
I'm talking about Jellyfish
The double jellyfish stages
Where they lifesteal off of you
interesting how people struggle on different lineups
i never really had much trouble with jelly but the silencers always mess me up
Idk about that, usually double jellyfish can be p a big dps check
i'm not good at timing bursts after all 
if you can 'just kill' then the deficit doesn't seem high enough
that's a stage im stuck on rn
having the dps but being unable to burst or losing a dps 10 seconds in is usually how hard mode goes for me
I think Siren stun effects is extremely strong particularly in that situation
Farters tend to jump when they hit a low hp threshold, stun denies both the jump and can interrupt the fart for multiple enemies
yeah if you get a bunch of smaller ones it's a different story
i'm sure we'll be seeing that guy use siren in the future
personally when I was pushing (which was a long time ago obv), multiple mob unit stages were less of a wall than ones where you absolutely had to DPS down critical mobs (usually like 3 farters, atk debuffer, 2 turret laser guys, etc.) or a defense stage where there's a healer that has a million HP, and back to back
it is still like that for most players
1 beefy unit kills you with a bullshit mechanic
for multiple targets I just practiced a routine to pause into flick
into pause again, etc.
so whenever I got walled it was usually against a back to back tanky mob
there was also this really annoying time I remember where I was pushing a stage and I would get to a brutal last 3 seconds where the boss is 10 HP
and then it would just
jump
at the end
always.
and I would get mega tilted
Is 7/7/7 siren a good idea?
siren is def in all campaign
like the most annoying one were those
i recorded my 38-37 hard boss clear jn
stupid boss that's stationary and charges a laser
and it would fucking teleport behind the bridge
actually i kinnda just cleared all of hard mode jn with siren as b1
Or is any skill a 4 one?

and you literally could not shoot it
and I actually tilted off the face of the planet
that one was a real classic
I still remember the trauma bosses
the stages with the most bullshit

yeah I heard that it's mostly just boss walled now
rush from boss to boss?
nice gameplay
if the boss of a previous chapter takes more than the last mob node of the current chapter then yes it is pretty much meaningless to build for campaign in this way
speaking of siren
is she not part of the best bossing team?
depends on boss ofc
she's strong vs kraken is probably the one that matters the most
i don't think any other boss is that impactful for an account
do you use maids or crown helm with siren vs kraken?
i also auto 7
guess kraken is easy now for everyone
veteran meta sure is different
all content gets blasted away
so you dont even need 3 mins with a mid sbs and a bricked wasuka
wind raiders are eating good
they only need to build 3 carries and 3 sub dps now
wasuka sbs siren then NTRei, mana and midkura
water nichers already built 30 water units xd
im doing it in sub 2 rn
so yea u dont
yeah with good sbs and wasuka 2 mins or less is possible
When people talk about auto Kraken team, are they talking about straight up autoing to s9?
Like not even touching their game
mine is 120 on sbs and 110 on asuka so prob not
i think u can go down to 1:45 - 1:50 for now if u minmax
Ah I was about to say
Full Auto Kraken Stage 7 Before QTE with Little Mermaid Siren, Scarlet:Black Shadow, Asuka: Wille and Helm Treasure Phase 3
First Real Recorded Full Auto Stage 7 before QTE @1:40
Yet another breakthrough in the Kraken Full Auto Series where this time, the Full Auto is done before the QTEs and the fight ends after the QTE Nuke making 👉YOUR...
its now autoing to stage 7 before the qte

made it to stage 8 with alice
the whole point of full auto stage 7 before qte is just so the qte will team wipe and end the run
Oh sweet
and u get the max rewards as fast as possible
yeah but I see more useful rapiH bombs
rapiH bombs are most time free dmg cuz she destroy misilles and ads
or bubbles like last raid
but yeah is ok I'll take it
SU is building pure niche overpowered units
yeah back to work

damn she's so good.. tempted to mlb over mihara :/
17 rocks for
Head
- 40.17% ammo
- 12.34% ele
Arms
- 22.15% ele
Torso
- 12.34% ele
Leg
- 23.56% ele

Also, 300 pulls on the dot to MLB her.
With the OLs outcome of 70% ele dmg and 40% ammo, I guess.. I'll stop.
just ele on the last 3 slots? i have decent ele too but lacking attack.. but i really don't want to min max anymore (wasted too much)
she's a support
Nah, I got more but they're useless
going crazy for a support is for whales
Like this unless we discuss speed of blowing bubbles
she's a support who will be in most teams tho,, and that damage is insane for me even on neutral
oh yeah got to love that.,. one thing they can work on.. shotgun/mg units cant roll charge speed
Tbh if I was a wiser man who likes his money.
0LB Siren and 17 rocks would've been excellent.
Either from a couple lucky pulls (some folks with 10 pull got her...) or 200 gold mileage max.
comparing to stuff other then cindy/rrh/sbs she does insane damage for me @wheat island
considering shes a b1 and gonna be used in almost eveyr mode ontop of that
For neutral she needs Atk %
Since, y'know, ele dmg doesn't even help there
So yea if yours is like mine, which is basically high ele but no atk... she'll be only okay
But she still did four times the damage of Crown in your example
yeah see proves my point
We can quibble over the word insane all you want.. she does massive damage for a b1
seems like i have to repeat myself 10 more times before it comes across
every time you guys show me a chart it shows good damage
not insane dmg
I'm tempted to try for atk
I'll wait to see if I use her for ele counters over neutral though
you're getting rocks from events now
doing same dmg as rapi b1 and still not enough for some people
when the meta is this
top tier character
You could even say insane 
people are excitingly investing more into her than a b3 dps
obviously the return value is not the same
how do you feel about her now vs crown
not saying you personally but people in general thought siren sucked
pre-release
Most people didn't know she'd be doing rapi b1 damage or higher tbh
Aren't you usually the one complaining that every new unit is trash in every banner thread?
she was projected as 50% sbs in the only calculations i saw
seemed to be roughly right
lol
Yeah but that's after people ran some numbers. before that people just looked at her buffs and thought "she's shit"
Well, yeah. Obviously. Unless you whale like crazy, you're never going to have enough resources to 10/10/10 every unit
But still, there's really no point judging a unit before they're released and tested
One good thing.. they gave a fuckload of mats from the drake event thing
shift up marketing's team is ass
they should have put the entire drake event in the anniversary stream
Yeo people would have gone wild... I hope they keep up with the resource drops
@sick lion I usually wait for sky to test before pulling.. unless it's a big anni unit
did you end up pulling mana?
mana i did get baited by yeah
yeah those are real mids
crusty and fatty i just ignored.. Maids i could tell by myself would be good ( i think sky kinda undervalued them tbh)
yeah used her once.. at least shes limited so i dont mind picking a copy
I wonder if you can put rapi in for asuka and have her kill missle easy and still make stage 7 before qte
If you were to skip Siren for Mihara, because you have priorities, would it be damage you couldnt recover from? Like skipping crown or red hood, or rapiR?
Siren outvalues Mihara overall imo.. probably better choice overall if you can only get one.. id do my best to try get both if possible tho
depends on what modes you value/what your box already looks like too
Hmm, I see. I have all of the meta units, except dorothy and sbs. I prioritize raids and campaign, dont care about anything else.
Left one was a test run to get baseline. I died with 1 minute left so I stopped there. Right one was Siren... and I rolled more so she dropped from 70% ele to 55% ele or so but got more ammo, atk (just 5% heh), and all of the eles are on line 3 (was hoping for better though).
38 seconds to spare in killing Kraken, nice. Rest of team is MCB.
I did take Siren to 10/10/10 skills and lvl5 OLs. She did 50% of BS Scarlet's dmg while downing Kraken. And BS Scarlet has much more ele dmg and atk than Siren.
With the baseline, basically my Rapi Hood was 25% of BS Scarlet. Siren is 50% of BS Scarlet but owed much of it to Ele Dmg.
But, what was really nice is that with Siren, I could freely destroy phase 2 tentacles at the right timings without caring about if team was in Full Burst or not.
For solo raid Siren will be around for ages.. stun is super useful for campaign too.. i doubt Mihara is knocking out people from the campaign.. maybe on specific stages
I see. Then I will use the economy to overcome this problem. Thanks snooty
Mihara should be a lot stronger than Siren, I think?
mihara probably not good in campaign
alice rapi benefit more from core dmg that all raptures have in it
Thanks for the breakdown posted above. Easy to comprehend and a nice way for others to understand tf everyone here is yapping about.
As for Mihara, well yeah, B3 with BDSM will have higher dmg most of the time, but if Siren is more important for raid, then im going for her.
if you dont 7 clear kraken then that is another big reason for siren
Someone needs to test her on wave stages
Does she do well against waves?
I can't because I already destroyed everything 
Maybe if Wind overclock infinity comes up
Hmm I could test in non-infinity overclock though
it's so over -> we're so back
Some people using siren to clear glass slippers in campaign right now. Yes I'm stuck at glass slippers in campaign so I know
But they also have like 3+ coppies of cindarella so whatever
But still
How does that even work? Mirror Container's glass slippers, right? In phase 2?
No no no wait. I just mean people are already using teams with siren to clear "whole" boss.
VS A.I Harvester from this vid 🤔 https://youtu.be/p7erN2rQEFM?si=q6yuGR-_0onXLaW_&t=974
Only doing a bit more damage than crown on neutral core is a bit of an oof but it did look like mermaid helped with the adds a bunch
Naga buff does also benefit crown but not siren 🤔
Maybe their siren is low invest 
can speed run kraken now 
I don't wanna level Asuka 2 
Also you probably can't tank tentacle slaps without helm bursting
Heresy, how dare you replace Mana with THelm?!
She is my waifu so I keep her for Kraken's afk daily clear
Guys, for kraken what would be the crownless meta team?
Grave instead of crown? Or maids?
crownless 🧱
probably siren + maids but siren gets nerfed pretty hard because you only have one MG
i guess you could run wind asuka with siren so you at least have 2 mg
so is she worth me whaling
siren in campaign is so damn smooth with helm
i don't have rapi 
but you could have siren
is this with her doll ?
what doll
doll will only give more stats
he is asking if its helmt
I guess
wrong channel
also what do you do in campaign
uhm
honestly campaign is actually pretty elastic
rapipi is great, can do a b3 slot with her, the second b3 is varied
the world doesn't need to be like that anymore
use siren b1 and rapi b3
or rhb1 and relegate rapi to ele weakness
i don't know what my new team can be now
i'm using Rapi, Crown, Cinderella, Alice and Naga
now my new team can be Siren, Crown, Rapi, Modernia and Maid Mast?
i'm very close to getting Helm's Treasure
crown + naga
best for campaign
crown siren b3 b3 naga
can be cindy or alice as b3
i also have SBS too
That was my plan anyways, y suck at manual alice
i don't know how worth it is to run maids when you don't have a SBS charge buffer and run wasuka instead
????
Charge what?
alice/mana to make SBS charge faster
Can't you do the same with some charge speed lines?
And I mean, if I don't use maids then what?
Just grave?
maids
theres a full auto stagee 7 with maids
i did it once but i dint post it since the crown one was just more popular
I lost Crown and Helm with 20 sec to go, so either targeting the bottom tentacles or Bursting Helm to regen it near end and i will be fine ...
she's pretty much Rapi B1
- I will offer thee lame ass buff
Pretty good
never forget
may be should take a day off tmr
What are your Siren skill/gear investments atm?
So sirens worth using over liter?
Yeah, but it depends a bit
How so
Like if you want Siren in a Snipers only team, that’s going to suppress her peak performance quite a bit
So in most cases using siren over liter is just the better option or is split 50/50
Idk, but team rof matters to her
I made a full detail video guide explaining Sirens kit, investments, and team comps. Would it be appropriate to send it here?
Siren personal damage is high enough to buck Liter and team focus fire “at will” also makes it less necessary to rely on Liter’s 5s of burst help (because you can focus fire all the time if you wanted)
But I’d say you want at least two MGs in team with Siren. Crown + someone.
Crown + Rapi Hood fulfills it so everyone trying that combo with Siren are pretty happy
Like here 
So using red hood or cindy with siren isnt the most ideal
You absolutely can, i do. Get 2 MG units (crown and then a b3 dps mg), then the other 2 slots are flex for whatever you want
most ideal for siren isn't most ideal for the situation
you don't want 4x mg anyway
naga/helm for example
Indeed and you can still cover burst gen with the non-MGs you bring. Siren would just do less personal damage
But you still get all of her other benefits that don’t rely on team RoF
Im js a tad bit autistic what does mg mean😔
Getting higher fire rate on other units has very diminishing returns, wirh 2 mg units her burst ability will fill in 2.5 seconds, if paired with t helm that only needs to proc once to fill your burst gauge completely
Machine gun
Ah i am just autistic
When new Mihara comes out
At least for Raiding if not for campaigning, there’s still the potential for Siren + Rapi Hood + new Mihara because the two B3 carries are Fire MGs
Should do pretty well against most Fire-weak bosses
Im gonna go ahead and put this here, i go over what each part of her kit means, best team comps, investments, etc. Tried my best to make it a good resource for ppl.
https://youtu.be/tFUgET5oMcA?si=CAjcI8uw5TH525iu
A quick guide on how Little Mermaid works, and how to properly build her.
Nikke: goddess of victory
Nikke title font : https://skuqre.github.io/nikke-font-generator/
Time Stamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:14 Kit Overview
4:50 Should You Pull?
5:24 Build/Investments
6:05 Team Comps
6:48 Conclusion
Songs:
Artificial Shangri La (retro mix)
Unbreakable...
Instead of like D Wife
@mighty kraken @last cloak is this allowed? 
Wdym
Why shouldnt it be
Should be allowed
I figured its a good resource, made it mainly to share, im not making money or nothin off of it. If its not then i can remove it
Sharing anything about siren is allowed here
omw to share siren's onlyfans
I liked guitar rock video as well tbh for siren
Posting siren feet pics rn
As long as it's not off topic
you might want some restrictions on "anything about siren" 
Is just like how macki, tistree or shino share their vids
Yeah I hope they have common sense about it cuz I won't mind muting
well they've already acquired broadcaster role
Yeah but they got it cuz they posted vids randomly
Neither of them asked for it
If it's useful let them post
If it's useless offtopic no real info, then sure, skip
Or if it causes everyone to spam videos here, then ping mods ig
I'd rather random community members share their videos than us just spamming nikkegg/prydwen review
One of the reasons I never used to pin nikkegg/pryd stuff in any thread 
Share it once and dip
At 6000 messages, needs more pins.
I'm sure it's been answered, but I can't find it. (Especially since search doesn't work in threads. Thanks Discord.)
Does she replace RRH as B1 in campaign now, or just for Wind-weak stages?
Imo she does
I think shes the besr non niche b1
Depends on stage, roughly same power, sidegrades of each other depending on stage
When pairs with t helm, Nd 2 mg units, you get full burst in less than 3 seconds
I wish I could use her in campaign but she kills my cp
Rapi Hood as B1 does have an advantage - ease of AoEing during Full Burst.
This can matter if you need to destroy projectiles often or at critical times.
Let’s not forget that Rapi Hood is also strong against two elements.
Siren though, can freely make team focus fire.
It’s cool. Very cool. Fighting Behemoth for the first time was aggravating because I kept failing QTEs with my fav team.
Siren would’ve been perfect there.
Gravedigger has met its eternal nemesis 
Under rated use is getting your teammates to not shoot at the damn volleyballs while not having to force them all to take cover
Oh shoot, so whole team will always focus fire throughout the duration of the instance?
wait smg doll gives 9.47% attack so SR15 doll is a must
Excellent and best point. Literal Volleyball counter then. Or half-counter
Yes. If you manual her. That’s what it means to be in “Focusing” state - she’s being manual controlled by you.
Then whole team will focus fire if you aim with her. If you don’t, it behaves normally.
No strings attached. Focus fire at will. WE DANCE 
She’s like 2nd strongest SMG in terms of base basic atk dmg, behind Soline. Among the strongest if we only consider meta units like EQ Quency, but that’s not saying much I think. Kit makes the biggest difference for SMGs
O shoot ic ic, she prob wouldn't work too well outside of mg comps during campaign though right
Like when using alice for instance, and if you're rushing, chances are you'd prob want to use her
I've been under the impression RRH would be used as a B3 against the elements she's strong against (until we get someone even better)?
Nah, she works effectively with or without MGs. Less personal damage without. But you can still generate burst as usual with other units. Like Red Hood or Helm treasure. Especially Helm treasure since you can let Helm autofire.
Damn ic, I think the focus-fire though is effectively useless in campaign though right if you have to manual her, since you'd rather be on rh/helm/alice?
Depends on the need of focus fire. Ever wished you could make team focus fire in the first 3 seconds?
Siren can, before your team even Full Bursts.
Ever wished you could make whole team stay on the wave boss that just appeared even if your Full Burst just then ran out? Because you’re screwed in the next few seconds?
Or because your only B2 died?
Siren can.
core hit also counts for normal shots right so its like 2.5x1.0947x0.1
so extra 25% damage
When do you use rapi as B1 and when siren?
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