#[Little Mermaid] New Unit Megathread

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mighty kraken
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xLud got that S2 ammo refill too

mellow flicker
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what ols for her?

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ammo?

vast carbon
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We need to check if the new mg thing works on any fps or if there's some way to minmax it LiterSmug

wary jolt
acoustic aspen
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shit, forgot to turn on mine

wary jolt
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no bastion or anything

acoustic aspen
hexed wedge
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ah

vast carbon
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I haven't watched pvp matches in months so I don't know if this is faster than before

hexed wedge
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,ales smese

vast carbon
spare crescent
acoustic aspen
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2 RL MG now shoots at 37 ammo

brave silo
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i don't think so
she's a amazing Wind DPS, and Kraken is the most important interception boss since higher damage means more rocks to reroll gear

acoustic aspen
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no longer 26

mellow flicker
acoustic aspen
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3 RL is now 102 ammo

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no longer 64

brave silo
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more rocks means you'll get better gear faster and that makes your account progression faster

vast carbon
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Why are you using siren on Kraken?

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I don't think you can auto clear with her

spare crescent
vast carbon
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You'll die to Rocket

solid ingot
acoustic aspen
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MG is roughly 60 FPS in PVP now

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I don't know if they improve their server computing

mighty kraken
vast carbon
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Wait for coop I guess

unborn blade
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Skill recommendation?

vast carbon
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To see

acoustic aspen
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but yeah, Rapi zombie feels like a pain in the ass now

mighty kraken
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Oh my god bru

brave silo
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minimum?

teal rivet
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Oh shit mihara and ros gonna be more potent now

solid ingot
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prolly prio S1 first to 10

wary jolt
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we gonna see rapi zombie at ca now?

mighty kraken
vast carbon
floral vine
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Damn so now rapiH pvp is possible

mighty kraken
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But now she's better

outer cradle
mighty kraken
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: Doro :

vast carbon
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Holy shit pvp ruined

mighty kraken
vast carbon
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Rapi viable and slot 1 mihara death fart

floral vine
mellow flicker
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??

mighty kraken
vast carbon
floral vine
outer cradle
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I think im going to 10/10/10 Siren because the Drake event gives you a fuck ton of skill mats

frosty mulch
outer cradle
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might as well

vast carbon
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He fell for it

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Don't expect shift up to give you more than like one extra book per day from simulation buffs

rancid dome
brave silo
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is Siren the strongest SMG DPS in the game?
or QEQ still does more damage?

mighty kraken
mighty kraken
outer cradle
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ill be fine

acoustic aspen
teal rivet
mighty kraken
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Before it used to look 30

acoustic aspen
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don't think it's 60 but 55 50 probably

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definitely not 30

rancid dome
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i measured pve and it was somewhere around 52-54

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a little earlier

acoustic aspen
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yeah kinda there

rancid dome
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it looks like smg is improved too

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i have 109 shots across 136/30fps

wary jolt
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the only way to get something improved is if SU decided to release a relevant pilgrim unit

rancid dome
acoustic aspen
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fine

hexed wedge
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guys

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at the end someone tested if she helps wasuka?

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i forgot i havent build reit and already wanted to try her out iris_bed

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sad.

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my kraken team is briked then

vast carbon
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Just do the helm team so you can snooze

hexed wedge
hexed wedge
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i dont havfe more xp for the dolls

floral vine
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Finally

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Time to build maids

vast carbon
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Time to pull 1% banners so I can get maids

hexed wedge
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real

lapis gulch
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is she good for kraken

acoustic aspen
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gud

lapis gulch
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how gud

floral vine
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Quite good

copper tusk
acoustic aspen
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turning setting on means she will start stunning at 1.9 rl

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look above

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then say again

acoustic aspen
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turn min attack setting on: O a a shoots 24 ammo per sec
off = 15

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every 50 shot, she stuns the target by 3s

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so at 1.9 RL, she will stun the first target

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whoever she hits the 50th

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then it keeps going

vague plover
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basically fixes 30fps issues

acoustic aspen
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it means, you can use her as DPS killer in PVP now

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think texas

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use your damn head for once

spare crescent
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bruh

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so just turn it off if opponent runs mg or smg

acoustic aspen
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remind me of the old strat to counter Zed in LoL

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just turn off Shadow

strange knoll
runic yew
slow seal
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wonder if the option will be active by default on CA matches

runic yew
slow seal
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if it does, prepare to get buttfucked pepela

sand herald
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damn is this the best team for kraken or just yours

undone cargo
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Does she replace rapi or liter?

hexed wedge
hexed wedge
vague plover
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man

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just check settings yourself

hexed wedge
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right

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right..

vast carbon
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Pvp just became worse

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Siren stuns, mihara toxic farts and rapi cleaving everything

vague plover
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it doesn't bump up your fps, it autocorrects the number of bullets shot at lower fps

hexed wedge
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oh

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so is good if it drops the fps by chance

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im gonna have it activated then

acoustic aspen
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10/10/7 is enough for me to kill kraken

hexed wedge
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stage 9
?

vast carbon
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Wait kill or stage 7

hexed wedge
acoustic aspen
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kill = 9

hexed wedge
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insane

solid ingot
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Siren is Kraken easy mode now

hexed wedge
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she became a must pull for me

vast carbon
acoustic aspen
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yeah, I tried with Rapi but can only deal 5b dmg

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lack 400m left

solid ingot
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Collab aim outside the burst is great too so you can squeeze a bit more dmg on tentacles core

vast carbon
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But I need my auto team whyyyy

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Siren can't clear rockets so you will die to slaps

solid ingot
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Auto, Rapipi > Siren

hexed wedge
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liauw, technically speaking. sbs not builded at all or rh, or wasuka

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if im going for siren manual

vast carbon
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How do you not have SBS built

solid ingot
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Sorry, wdym?

hexed wedge
solid ingot
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🥲

hexed wedge
vast carbon
solid ingot
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Still def an upgrade overall

hexed wedge
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m ymax is stage 5

solid ingot
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SBS or not

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Should be even more of an upgrade over Rapipi if you use ReiW instead of SBS

hexed wedge
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even is reit isnt builded

drowsy dagger
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this is low sync stage 7

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siren is a beast

floral vine
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~~in her element ~~

fluid ridge
solid ingot
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Wasuka

fluid ridge
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Is that some abbreviation of Summer Sakura or

solid ingot
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Wind Asuka

drowsy dagger
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asuke willie

sharp lichen
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Does it mean she only good for kraken?

drowsy dagger
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or wind asuka

fluid ridge
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Oh god I forgot she existed

drowsy dagger
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take W either way

fluid ridge
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I own her and I forgot I had her

sharp lichen
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Is she gonna replace litter or ssr rapi as b1?

solid ingot
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looks like Rapipi sidegrade and straight up better than her on Kraken (unless you auto)

neon dragon
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does siren need mlb?

vague plover
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depends on fight

solid ingot
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MLB is only for wallpaper

vague plover
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party focus can be useful

keen talon
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310 blues and still not R15, wtf is this game

hexed wedge
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like me

floral vine
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Time to doroswipe

steep cove
sterile kelp
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I don't even have R doll

steep cove
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Sht rate on blue kits on blue doll

hexed wedge
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aight im maxing siren

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never reached stage 6 before with srapi and rh+ssakura

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no ol lines siren both reit

minor willow
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Shitup be trollin

sharp lichen
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Have u tried wasuka

drowsy dagger
sharp lichen
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Instead of sakura

hexed wedge
drowsy dagger
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fuckcrow

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delete crow

sharp lichen
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Ahhh

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Hahahabsorry

hexed wedge
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actually wasuka did well with only having 1x atk line black

drowsy dagger
minor willow
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Oh man I already got Naga C3 Stop giving her SignalSob

hexed wedge
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gotta im

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resourceless too

drowsy dagger
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sbs and siren just solos

hexed wedge
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thats kill or stage 7

drowsy dagger
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stage 7

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like 25% ish into stage

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on 340 sync

hexed wedge
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tf

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na i see 348 there

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but well

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i bet your sbs is buided too

drowsy dagger
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sbs is fat yes

hexed wedge
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both siren,wasuka,sbs

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are. lacking love

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like serious one

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because i dont have stones nor mats

drowsy dagger
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I have to check wasuka

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idk what she has

solid ingot
drowsy dagger
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wasuka is 2 ele 3 ammo

hexed wedge
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worrisome

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anyway siren is hot im mlb*ing her no matter what

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i like her expression in the battle position guard

drowsy dagger
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4 ele 4 att 1 ammo sbs

solid ingot
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mine is 934

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saving my last two stones for Mihara next week

drowsy dagger
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2 att 3 ele 2 ammo siren

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7/7/7

hexed wedge
drowsy dagger
hexed wedge
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i wish to pvp but when i start learning the theory my brain dies

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if siren is so good

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can she make jackal 0/0/0 good ?

solid ingot
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ya but still BlancStare

hexed wedge
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is it that bad

mellow flicker
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i need more dolls

hexed wedge
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for sync?

vernal tiger
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so.......

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i'm lost

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10/10/10 i guess

drowsy dagger
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if you want to save a bit

sharp lichen
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Why save when u can whale

hexed wedge
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why save when u can just spend it all

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actually

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just skill reset

drowsy dagger
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we are forced to 7/7/7 due to event rewards of fomo

hexed wedge
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fomo?

solid ingot
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tried with my friend's account

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wtf is this Siren

drowsy dagger
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fear or missing out

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event has t9m selector and pulls

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so yk

steep cove
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Is siren really doing more dmg than asukaW in wind weak?

hexed wedge
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aight

drowsy dagger
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the 5x5 or something

hexed wedge
drowsy dagger
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whatever the name is

floral vine
vast carbon
drowsy dagger
vast carbon
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Drake event?

drowsy dagger
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no 5x5 thing

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its in the event tab

vast carbon
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Well 7//7/7 should be super easy now

steep cove
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Roughly

vast carbon
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They barely buffed gold books so you still get giga walled after that

floral vine
steep cove
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What's siren relative dmg to them here?

drowsy dagger
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half of sbs

solid ingot
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huge BlancStare

floral vine
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Let's say she's the third carry in wind element

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Wind raiders are eating good

drowsy dagger
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whats the hc deificit these days

winged bay
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Does the "activates after landing 50 normal attacks" in sirens skill 2 take effect only with normal attacks from siren, or from any ally?

drowsy dagger
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before ol stats and doll cp's it was like 35-40% max if you're god

winged bay
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Ok

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Ty

drowsy dagger
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500 part is whole team

winged bay
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Yea

steep cove
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It's not a high bar but

proud canyon
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wth

deep basalt
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How good is little mermaid?

steep cove
solid ingot
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Just look at this dmg lol

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92% Ele SBS vs 70% Ele Siren

deep basalt
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Guess she’s absolutely op

steep cove
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Hmm

copper tusk
spare crescent
solid ingot
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Who's S.Sakura, we have Siren now 👀

solid ingot
steep cove
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Summer biggest scam last year. One raid and never used them

solid ingot
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But, B1 vs B3 advantage

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B1 20s can burst every rotation

steep cove
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Oh right

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But still pretty good since that's how you gonna use her anyway

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I shouldn't be tempted now and gonna wait for mihara FrimaSleep

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Thinking of not to spend too many mileage

toxic elbow
toxic elbow
toxic elbow
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Or Jackal feed?

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Oh man.

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I hope this is a bug.

mossy pebble
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apparently works in rookie but not sp

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so don't expect it to work in champ either

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rookie is usually the odd one of the trio

halcyon dove
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Is she better than Rapipi for kraken?

grave remnant
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massively

vast carbon
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yes but only if you don't auto

grave remnant
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kraken has become a punching bag lately anyway

drowsy dagger
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because no one cares about others anyways

toxic elbow
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@viral smelt so u find why shes dealing abnormally more damage than usual?

viral smelt
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Nah its not abnormal

lapis gulch
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they didnt give enough equipment fodder to 5/5/5/5 siren

toxic elbow
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Related to smg speed buff?

wanton void
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rh doesnt actually have infinite ammo, its 99

lapis gulch
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im assuming you need helm and arm ol to use her for kraken?

vast carbon
viral smelt
vast carbon
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they need to buff gear drops next

sterile kelp
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Come and join me SR0 gang

vast carbon
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Or at least add random gear drops to Kraken like old inyercey

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I get that the idea is that you cycle through bosses but gear drops are too random so you can't just switch to a boss when you need it

wheat island
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can someone calc my pull rate ScrajjLeft

vast carbon
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0

drowsy dagger
sterile kelp
vast carbon
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Does siren even need doll?

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What do smgs get

drowsy dagger
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for the quest

spare crescent
solid ingot
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Seems like you can use Siren's bubble to help with Harvester's mobs

copper tusk
little saffron
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Half anniversary and SU is not trying to make us broke?!

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Unbelievable, I need to buy a lottery ticket today.

mellow flicker
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fuck me where do you guys get doll mats

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i shouldve used all of it to treasure helm

solid ingot
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New mission, the drake one

rustic saffron
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how's the verdict?

mellow flicker
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crown is the king

runic yew
idle blaze
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how good is Siren?

drowsy kiln
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Is siren worth investing?

wheat island
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siren dethroned my asukaw already

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in kraken

copper tusk
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ok so

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do we need hit rate for her?

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so at least we can hit core at a far distance

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if so, how much do we need again?

toxic elbow
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@rapid badger whats her burst gen per shot

idle blaze
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how would you rate Siren on the tier list

little saffron
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Bait...

vast carbon
little saffron
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100 pulls, got Ludmilla and Cocoa.

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I just bought her, I mean the sign is clearly there.

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Doll her...

viral smelt
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Can someone test if MG actually fire 60 bps now?

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Or might be 80

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Cuz i remember the excel sheet thingy says MG can go up to 80

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@mighty kraken

little saffron
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two rerolls

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Yeah today is my bad day

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Pulls are shit even on standard side

copper tusk
viral smelt
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Whats with ppl

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Doing aliceless SBS nonstop nowadays

runic yew
idle blaze
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can I have some Siren team comp?

dim dove
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siren crown +whatever

little saffron
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have her at 4 ATK now

toxic elbow
fleet swallow
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Tribe Tower F160, Siren skills at 7/7/7

toxic elbow
fleet swallow
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I lack Crown and Rapi: Red Hood on my account. I was inactive for a long time but I'm getting back into this for now

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I got lucky, pulled one Little Mermaid on Roll No. 23, so I decided to get her skills up and try her out

little saffron
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Siren is 10/10/7, no doll

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with enough investment, you can kill Kraken on afk daily

mossy pebble
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DoroThink oh this is interesting

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in the event story, the super easy fights

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my sbs doesn't follow siren's focus

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everyone else does, but sbs does her own thing still

runic yew
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I just clear all AI S9 with Siren

mossy pebble
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was it easier than before?

runic yew
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much easier

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I can use Rapi B3 in Indi

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I can burst faster in Ultra still with Rapi B3

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I can do comfy run on Harvester cause Siren will kill mobs by herself

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No more Rouge sometime stuck CD in MC

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Kraken is same, nothing change much

brisk crypt
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b1 too

mossy pebble
runic yew
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Well I need to do Rouge Helm again to compare

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If you play Siren then you have to burst Helm once

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And break 4 slippers with her

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This was 5 months ago

keen talon
runic yew
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My electric units's stats don't change

runic yew
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Im uploading soon

mossy pebble
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can helmt even break the slippers

runic yew
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Yes

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If you burst her once

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4 ammo for 4 slippers

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4 for burst gen

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Just wait my vid

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This is 1st slipper with 360% def up

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Also you can break without using her burst

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If you have some atk lines

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My Helm has zero so I had to burst

mossy pebble
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so she can do it during full burst no issue?

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I thought her dmg being an additional proc would cause issues

runic yew
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It's only 1 hit

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so no issue

mossy pebble
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is siren still better than rapipi in that role tho

runic yew
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I didn't test Rapi in MC

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But I think Rapi > Siren in MC

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Maybe, need to check again

slow seal
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No ele 10/10/7 SR5, yeah, should make kraken much easier to clear

runic yew
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Siren B1 just unleashed Rapi B3 power

ornate oracle
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sub 2 min stage 9 kraken

viral smelt
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Crack

lapis gulch
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can i do kraken without asukas willie

steep cove
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Back to sbs alice then

copper tusk
grave remnant
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asska skippers in shambles

copper tusk
lapis gulch
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im not upgrading her just for kraken

strange knoll
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some siren testing shooting range vs kraken

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taking a bit to show up on blahblah but she has 92 ele, pretty strong McMoran

grave remnant
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92? how many rocks did you use

strange knoll
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30ish

turbid sundial
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Doro oh wow

willow locust
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that's way better damage than I was expecting

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almost ReiT level

uncut blade
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My AsukaW dmg is very concerning

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For Kraken

willow locust
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I wonder what the wind raid teams will look like in the future

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since it's probably worth trying to maximise Siren's S2 damage

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Is:

  • Siren/Crown/Mihara/ReiA/Modernia

Insane as a 4MG wind raid team?

grave remnant
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crown needs a new slave
prob one with high fire rate

willow locust
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oh wait Crown wants healing

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but no good MG gives healing

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and no good MG B2 other than crown

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can't optimise perfectly

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Siren & Crown is definitely a strong combo in wind raids, since Siren is now our best B1 DPS right? So actually benefits from Crown's S1

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I guess that means Crown has to give up on her healing in wind raids

vast carbon
willow locust
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I was gonna say that

vast carbon
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It's here

willow locust
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But Rem wants RL B3 anyway

vast carbon
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Rem believers won

willow locust
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So irrelevant

vast carbon
willow locust
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How frustrating

vast carbon
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She triggers crown when she gets hit

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Sometimes

willow locust
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Emma instead of Modernia Kek

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She's fire

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Siren/Crown/Mihara/ReiA/Emma

vast carbon
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Yeah but she's a burst less healer so you can burst crown

willow locust
vast carbon
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Huge

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They need to add a damage share MG so Emma gets hit more

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Wait flora has passive healing too right

little saffron
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Fishs attack her booba

vast carbon
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You just need to put her next to crown

runic yew
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@keen talon

vast carbon
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Siren/Crown/Flora/Mihara/ReiA

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Real

covert thunder
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what should aim for on skill rn? just 7/7/7?

vast carbon
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The liter at home

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People actually use treasure Miranda???

runic yew
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She doesn't have CDR which is really bad, and got covered by Siren

willow locust
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4MG team options for wind raids that want to maximise Siren's personal damage:

  • Siren/Crown/Mihara/ReiA/Modernia
  • Siren/Crown/Mihara/RapiRH/Xlud

Crown can't get healing without sacrificing a MG slot until we get a B3 or Flex-Slot MG who heals and isn't trash (Emma, Flora).

This means Siren wind raid teams will likely be similar to Cindy&Mari teams, where high investment in dolls/dupes is necessary to survive if running for top spots.

Outside wind raids I think still better to split Siren & Crown to different teams, e.g. for this raid something like:

  • Siren/Grave/Asuka/ReiA/Modernia
  • Liter/Crown/RapiRH/AsukaW/HelmT
tranquil night
visual cedar
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So I'm a bit dumb regarding pvp and I have a question going around , I heard lm is opieop there because of the stun , but does she make a third attack team viable or does she ensure one of the 2 good teams victory ?

Also she's not for defense right

turbid sundial
willow locust
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how come AsukaW deals more damage with Siren?

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Crown means the ammo refund shouldn't matter

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at least not significantly

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and RapiRH gives more damage-related buffs doesn't she?

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ahh right, full auto so HelmT isn't reliably firing as soon as burst ends

tawdry whale
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Yeah

willow locust
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Rapis buffs should be better offensively, but Siren also brings the more indirect burst gen & ammo refund

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resil cube though?

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with Crown that should make reload fairly minimal anyway

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oh

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with Crown you should run resil

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since it means no windup time

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especially since no ReiT in the team

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well, Siren & Bastion might reach infinite ammo for AsukaW tbh

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B1/Crown/Mihara/ReiA/Modernia

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when Mihara is in the game, that is

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the only meta MG are:

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Wasuka isn't neutral, but sure lol

tawdry whale
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Crown/ReiA/Lewdmilla/Modernia?

teal rivet
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This team dont have any burst gain you know

willow locust
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Siren/Crown/RapiRH/AsukaW/Xlud is probably the best 4MG team if you want to maximise Siren's personal damage

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wow such ReiA hate

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that basically means you're using Xlud in slot 5

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since Mod also stinks if not bringing ReiA

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and no other MG is decent off-burst

vast carbon
vast carbon
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Like bunny Alice

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Misato too if you're giga coping kekYep

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Wait

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IDOLL OCEAN POG

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The siren team healer of your dreams

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Can you even put R nikkes in synch?

kindred acorn
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Soda duckbizhat

willow locust
# vast carbon There's some SMG healers and they don't shoot that much slower

Bunny Alice gives basically nothing but heals in a hypothetical Crown + Siren team where we're already overflowing in reload buffs, at that point you may as well bring Emma or Flora

Same for Misato, but even more extreme

If Suzuka healed off-burst she might be viable since she at least brings a good damage taken debuff

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and also isn't SMG like a third of the fire rate?

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20 bullets per second instead of 60?

amber prism
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should i just use my gold ticket things to get mermaid

spare crescent
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U tried vs liter too?

willow locust
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the MG focus is really just for her own personal damage more than anything

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which outside wind weak, isn't going to be crucial

pulsar bough
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Thx, nice test

viral smelt
wanton void
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how does she have less util than rapi??

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the b1 with ammo reload and burst gen is less util yes

neon dragon
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there's no difference in the rewards between stage 8 and 9 in kraken right?

wanton void
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I guess but you could say the same with siren stun

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she got me past a hard campaign stage I was stuck on with 4 trashcans spawning even with a 40k more cp deficit

ornate oracle
#

Full Auto Speedrun Kraken Stage 7 Before QTE with The Little Mermaid.
Just to make your dailies a lot easier and faster 👍

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_ZASNQnnU

Full Auto Kraken Stage 7 Before QTE with Little Mermaid Siren, Scarlet:Black Shadow, Asuka: Wille and Helm Treasure Phase 3

First Real Recorded Full Auto Stage 7 before QTE @1:40

Yet another breakthrough in the Kraken Full Auto Series where this time, the Full Auto is done before the QTEs and the fight ends after the QTE Nuke making 👉YOUR...

▶ Play video
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ok you guys wanna check this out

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all kraken dailies are now 1min 28 seconds

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i made it so you phase 7 and die on the nuke

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so u dont have to wait 3minutes

visual cedar
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That sounds interesting but ... Is there missile rng lol

ornate oracle
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nope

visual cedar
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Also maybe needs crazy investment

ornate oracle
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crown taunt will eat it and die

visual cedar
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Only have 10/4/4 on asuka and I don't think her lines are crazy good.. maybe next wind sr if I raise her.. still semi full auto is already good for me

wanton void
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this is my current deficit for ref

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the mob spawns are just so ass

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but yeah ik its not the worst

wheat island
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it's going to depend on what stops you

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if it's silencer

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3s stun is nuts

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a lot of smaller mobs shooting instantly wouldn't help

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that sounds like a skill wall

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you should be able to dodge them

rough coyote
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Siren is def campaign usable for breaking through stages where you have to deal with multiple farters/jellyfish/shields/jailers/debuffers

full lynx
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most of my hard mode struggles were either on silencers with flying stuff nuking someone or bombspiders or both

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got out of 26 a while ago thanks to siren

rough coyote
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I'm talking about Jellyfish

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The double jellyfish stages

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Where they lifesteal off of you

full lynx
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interesting how people struggle on different lineups

wheat island
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i'm not so sure

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3s stun gives more time to kill those targets

full lynx
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i never really had much trouble with jelly but the silencers always mess me up

rough coyote
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Idk about that, usually double jellyfish can be p a big dps check

full lynx
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i'm not good at timing bursts after all Kekkers

rough coyote
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At high deficit

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Stun is p big vs them bc it will deny lifesteal

wheat island
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if you can 'just kill' then the deficit doesn't seem high enough

wanton void
full lynx
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having the dps but being unable to burst or losing a dps 10 seconds in is usually how hard mode goes for me

wanton void
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they start charging before you can shoot too

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its so shitty

rough coyote
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I think Siren stun effects is extremely strong particularly in that situation

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Farters tend to jump when they hit a low hp threshold, stun denies both the jump and can interrupt the fart for multiple enemies

wheat island
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yeah if you get a bunch of smaller ones it's a different story

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i'm sure we'll be seeing that guy use siren in the future

rough coyote
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personally when I was pushing (which was a long time ago obv), multiple mob unit stages were less of a wall than ones where you absolutely had to DPS down critical mobs (usually like 3 farters, atk debuffer, 2 turret laser guys, etc.) or a defense stage where there's a healer that has a million HP, and back to back

wheat island
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it is still like that for most players

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1 beefy unit kills you with a bullshit mechanic

rough coyote
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for multiple targets I just practiced a routine to pause into flick

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into pause again, etc.

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so whenever I got walled it was usually against a back to back tanky mob

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there was also this really annoying time I remember where I was pushing a stage and I would get to a brutal last 3 seconds where the boss is 10 HP

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and then it would just

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jump

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at the end

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always.

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and I would get mega tilted

daring haven
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Is 7/7/7 siren a good idea?

wheat island
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siren could remain at lvl 1

she will stun np

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nice cheese strats

ornate oracle
rough coyote
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like the most annoying one were those

ornate oracle
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i recorded my 38-37 hard boss clear jn

rough coyote
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stupid boss that's stationary and charges a laser

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and it would fucking teleport behind the bridge

ornate oracle
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actually i kinnda just cleared all of hard mode jn with siren as b1

daring haven
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Or is any skill a 4 one?

ornate oracle
rough coyote
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and you literally could not shoot it

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and I actually tilted off the face of the planet

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that one was a real classic

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I still remember the trauma bosses

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the stages with the most bullshit

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yeah I heard that it's mostly just boss walled now

wheat island
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rush from boss to boss?

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nice gameplay

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if the boss of a previous chapter takes more than the last mob node of the current chapter then yes it is pretty much meaningless to build for campaign in this way

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speaking of siren

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is she not part of the best bossing team?

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depends on boss ofc

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she's strong vs kraken is probably the one that matters the most

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i don't think any other boss is that impactful for an account

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do you use maids or crown helm with siren vs kraken?

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i also auto 7

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guess kraken is easy now for everyone

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veteran meta sure is different

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all content gets blasted away

floral vine
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so you dont even need 3 mins with a mid sbs and a bricked wasuka

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wind raiders are eating good

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they only need to build 3 carries and 3 sub dps now

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wasuka sbs siren then NTRei, mana and midkura

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water nichers already built 30 water units xd

ornate oracle
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so yea u dont

floral vine
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yeah with good sbs and wasuka 2 mins or less is possible

ornate oracle
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yea i posteed it jn

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well below sub 2

floral vine
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with 110 ele on all 3 i think 1 min kraken clear

uncut blade
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When people talk about auto Kraken team, are they talking about straight up autoing to s9?

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Like not even touching their game

ornate oracle
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mine is 120 on sbs and 110 on asuka so prob not

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i think u can go down to 1:45 - 1:50 for now if u minmax

uncut blade
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Ah I was about to say

ornate oracle
# uncut blade When people talk about auto Kraken team, are they talking about straight up auto...

Full Auto Kraken Stage 7 Before QTE with Little Mermaid Siren, Scarlet:Black Shadow, Asuka: Wille and Helm Treasure Phase 3

First Real Recorded Full Auto Stage 7 before QTE @1:40

Yet another breakthrough in the Kraken Full Auto Series where this time, the Full Auto is done before the QTEs and the fight ends after the QTE Nuke making 👉YOUR...

▶ Play video
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its now autoing to stage 7 before the qte

lapis gulch
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made it to stage 8 with alice

floral vine
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ngl I wanted a giga buffer as b1 but this is ok

ornate oracle
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the whole point of full auto stage 7 before qte is just so the qte will team wipe and end the run

uncut blade
ornate oracle
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and u get the max rewards as fast as possible

floral vine
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yeah but I see more useful rapiH bombs

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rapiH bombs are most time free dmg cuz she destroy misilles and ads

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or bubbles like last raid

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but yeah is ok I'll take it

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SU is building pure niche overpowered units

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yeah back to work

exotic hawk
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damn she's so good.. tempted to mlb over mihara :/

fiery sandal
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17 rocks for

Head

  • 40.17% ammo
  • 12.34% ele

Arms

  • 22.15% ele

Torso

  • 12.34% ele

Leg

  • 23.56% ele

PepeSleep

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Also, 300 pulls on the dot to MLB her.

With the OLs outcome of 70% ele dmg and 40% ammo, I guess.. I'll stop.

exotic hawk
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just ele on the last 3 slots? i have decent ele too but lacking attack.. but i really don't want to min max anymore (wasted too much)

wheat island
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she's a support

fiery sandal
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Nah, I got more but they're useless

wheat island
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going crazy for a support is for whales

fiery sandal
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Like this unless we discuss speed of blowing bubbles

exotic hawk
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she's a support who will be in most teams tho,, and that damage is insane for me even on neutral

wheat island
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insane dmg on neutral?

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no

exotic hawk
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oh yeah got to love that.,. one thing they can work on.. shotgun/mg units cant roll charge speed

wheat island
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she does good dmg vs wind weak

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not neutral

fiery sandal
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Tbh if I was a wiser man who likes his money.

0LB Siren and 17 rocks would've been excellent.

Either from a couple lucky pulls (some folks with 10 pull got her...) or 200 gold mileage max.

exotic hawk
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comparing to stuff other then cindy/rrh/sbs she does insane damage for me @wheat island

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considering shes a b1 and gonna be used in almost eveyr mode ontop of that

wheat island
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random stage

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wouldn't call this insane

limpid bough
wheat island
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yeah that's good damage

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not insane damage

fiery sandal
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For neutral she needs Atk %

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Since, y'know, ele dmg doesn't even help there

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So yea if yours is like mine, which is basically high ele but no atk... she'll be only okay

fiery sandal
wheat island
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yes but again

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that's good damage

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not insane damage

exotic hawk
wheat island
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yeah see proves my point

limpid bough
wheat island
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good damage

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not insane dmg

exotic hawk
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We can quibble over the word insane all you want.. she does massive damage for a b1

wheat island
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seems like i have to repeat myself 10 more times before it comes across

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every time you guys show me a chart it shows good damage

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not insane dmg

fiery sandal
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I'm tempted to try for atk sadge I'll wait to see if I use her for ele counters over neutral though

wheat island
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you're getting rocks from events now

limpid bough
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doing same dmg as rapi b1 and still not enough for some people

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when the meta is this

wheat island
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top tier character

exotic hawk
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You could even say insane kekw

wheat island
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people are excitingly investing more into her than a b3 dps

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obviously the return value is not the same

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how do you feel about her now vs crown

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not saying you personally but people in general thought siren sucked

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pre-release

exotic hawk
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Most people didn't know she'd be doing rapi b1 damage or higher tbh

halcyon ibex
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Aren't you usually the one complaining that every new unit is trash in every banner thread?

wheat island
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she was projected as 50% sbs in the only calculations i saw

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seemed to be roughly right

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lol

exotic hawk
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Yeah but that's after people ran some numbers. before that people just looked at her buffs and thought "she's shit"

halcyon ibex
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Well, yeah. Obviously. Unless you whale like crazy, you're never going to have enough resources to 10/10/10 every unit

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But still, there's really no point judging a unit before they're released and tested

exotic hawk
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One good thing.. they gave a fuckload of mats from the drake event thing

wheat island
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shift up marketing's team is ass

they should have put the entire drake event in the anniversary stream

exotic hawk
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Yeo people would have gone wild... I hope they keep up with the resource drops

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@sick lion I usually wait for sky to test before pulling.. unless it's a big anni unit

wheat island
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did you end up pulling mana?

exotic hawk
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mana i did get baited by yeah

wheat island
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yeah those are real mids

exotic hawk
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crusty and fatty i just ignored.. Maids i could tell by myself would be good ( i think sky kinda undervalued them tbh)

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yeah used her once.. at least shes limited so i dont mind picking a copy

mighty kraken
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S7 before qte kekw

exotic hawk
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I wonder if you can put rapi in for asuka and have her kill missle easy and still make stage 7 before qte

quartz field
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If you were to skip Siren for Mihara, because you have priorities, would it be damage you couldnt recover from? Like skipping crown or red hood, or rapiR?

exotic hawk
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Siren outvalues Mihara overall imo.. probably better choice overall if you can only get one.. id do my best to try get both if possible tho

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depends on what modes you value/what your box already looks like too

quartz field
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Hmm, I see. I have all of the meta units, except dorothy and sbs. I prioritize raids and campaign, dont care about anything else.

fiery sandal
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Left one was a test run to get baseline. I died with 1 minute left so I stopped there. Right one was Siren... and I rolled more so she dropped from 70% ele to 55% ele or so but got more ammo, atk (just 5% heh), and all of the eles are on line 3 (was hoping for better though).

38 seconds to spare in killing Kraken, nice. Rest of team is MCB.

I did take Siren to 10/10/10 skills and lvl5 OLs. She did 50% of BS Scarlet's dmg while downing Kraken. And BS Scarlet has much more ele dmg and atk than Siren.

With the baseline, basically my Rapi Hood was 25% of BS Scarlet. Siren is 50% of BS Scarlet but owed much of it to Ele Dmg.

But, what was really nice is that with Siren, I could freely destroy phase 2 tentacles at the right timings without caring about if team was in Full Burst or not.

exotic hawk
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For solo raid Siren will be around for ages.. stun is super useful for campaign too.. i doubt Mihara is knocking out people from the campaign.. maybe on specific stages

quartz field
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I see. Then I will use the economy to overcome this problem. Thanks snooty

fiery sandal
wheat island
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mihara probably not good in campaign

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alice rapi benefit more from core dmg that all raptures have in it

quartz field
# fiery sandal Mihara should be a lot stronger than Siren, I think?

Thanks for the breakdown posted above. Easy to comprehend and a nice way for others to understand tf everyone here is yapping about.

As for Mihara, well yeah, B3 with BDSM will have higher dmg most of the time, but if Siren is more important for raid, then im going for her.

wheat island
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if you dont 7 clear kraken then that is another big reason for siren

fiery sandal
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Someone needs to test her on wave stages

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Does she do well against waves?

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I can't because I already destroyed everything KEKS

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Maybe if Wind overclock infinity comes up

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Hmm I could test in non-infinity overclock though

wheat island
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she works fine vs wave stages too

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i'm clearing hard campaign with her rn

signal carbon
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it's so over -> we're so back

rugged valve
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Some people using siren to clear glass slippers in campaign right now. Yes I'm stuck at glass slippers in campaign so I know

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But they also have like 3+ coppies of cindarella so whatever

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But still

fiery sandal
rugged valve
coarse crystal
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Only doing a bit more damage than crown on neutral core is a bit of an oof but it did look like mermaid helped with the adds a bunch

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Naga buff does also benefit crown but not siren 🤔

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Maybe their siren is low invest ScarletCopium

sterile kelp
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can speed run kraken now PepeHmmSleep

vast carbon
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I don't wanna level Asuka 2 whyyyy

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Also you probably can't tank tentacle slaps without helm bursting

little saffron
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She is my waifu so I keep her for Kraken's afk daily clear

daring haven
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Guys, for kraken what would be the crownless meta team?

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Grave instead of crown? Or maids?

vast carbon
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crownless 🧱

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probably siren + maids but siren gets nerfed pretty hard because you only have one MG

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i guess you could run wind asuka with siren so you at least have 2 mg

dreamy cedar
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so is she worth me whaling

wheat island
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yes

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support shift up

dreamy cedar
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can i replace liter finally

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that's my goal here

wheat island
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yeah liter was gone when rapi came out

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siren can now replace rapi has a b1

grave remnant
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siren in campaign is so damn smooth with helm

wheat island
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i mowed down 2 hard chapters with siren

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very nice gameplay

acoustic aspen
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I mowed down 2 hours of wasting on Black Nake

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very nice design

dreamy cedar
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i don't have rapi sad

wheat island
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but you could have siren

dreamy cedar
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true

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wait rapi is a burst 1

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i just came back

dreamy cedar
grave remnant
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what doll
doll will only give more stats

drowsy dagger
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he is asking if its helmt

dreamy cedar
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hm i guess i should go to help

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and it was for helm

drowsy dagger
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I guess

dreamy cedar
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wrong channel

grave remnant
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of course it's helmt lmaocry

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but you don't need t3

drowsy dagger
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also what do you do in campaign

dreamy cedar
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uhm

drowsy dagger
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rrh+ who ?

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@grave remnant

grave remnant
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honestly campaign is actually pretty elastic

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rapipi is great, can do a b3 slot with her, the second b3 is varied

wheat island
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the world doesn't need to be like that anymore

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use siren b1 and rapi b3

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or rhb1 and relegate rapi to ele weakness

brave silo
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i'm very close to getting Helm's Treasure

wheat island
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crown + naga

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best for campaign

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crown siren b3 b3 naga

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can be cindy or alice as b3

brave silo
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i also have SBS too

wheat island
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you can use her too

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use the b3 that works best for the stage

daring haven
vast carbon
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i don't know how worth it is to run maids when you don't have a SBS charge buffer and run wasuka instead

vast carbon
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alice/mana to make SBS charge faster

daring haven
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And I mean, if I don't use maids then what?

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Just grave?

ornate oracle
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unit testing +3bil compared to using DKW/Liter

ornate oracle
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theres a full auto stagee 7 with maids

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i did it once but i dint post it since the crown one was just more popular

dawn star
#

I lost Crown and Helm with 20 sec to go, so either targeting the bottom tentacles or Bursting Helm to regen it near end and i will be fine ...

acoustic aspen
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that's quite a diff

spare crescent
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13% increase

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Only 2 mg too

acoustic aspen
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she's pretty much Rapi B1

  • I will offer thee lame ass buff
spare crescent
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Pretty good

acoustic aspen
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  • I kill
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man I haven't found time to calculate her dmg

wheat island
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never forget

acoustic aspen
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may be should take a day off tmr

drowsy dagger
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imagine outbuffing liter

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with almost no buffs

spare crescent
acoustic aspen
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10/10/7

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45% ele 22% atk

hot dagger
fiery sandal
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Yeah, but it depends a bit

hot dagger
fiery sandal
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Like if you want Siren in a Snipers only team, that’s going to suppress her peak performance quite a bit

hot dagger
fiery sandal
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Idk, but team rof matters to her

winged bay
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I made a full detail video guide explaining Sirens kit, investments, and team comps. Would it be appropriate to send it here?

fiery sandal
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Siren personal damage is high enough to buck Liter and team focus fire “at will” also makes it less necessary to rely on Liter’s 5s of burst help (because you can focus fire all the time if you wanted)

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But I’d say you want at least two MGs in team with Siren. Crown + someone.

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Crown + Rapi Hood fulfills it so everyone trying that combo with Siren are pretty happy

fiery sandal
hot dagger
winged bay
wheat island
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most ideal for siren isn't most ideal for the situation

you don't want 4x mg anyway

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naga/helm for example

fiery sandal
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Indeed and you can still cover burst gen with the non-MGs you bring. Siren would just do less personal damage

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But you still get all of her other benefits that don’t rely on team RoF

hot dagger
winged bay
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Getting higher fire rate on other units has very diminishing returns, wirh 2 mg units her burst ability will fill in 2.5 seconds, if paired with t helm that only needs to proc once to fill your burst gauge completely

winged bay
hot dagger
fiery sandal
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When new Mihara comes out

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At least for Raiding if not for campaigning, there’s still the potential for Siren + Rapi Hood + new Mihara because the two B3 carries are Fire MGs

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Should do pretty well against most Fire-weak bosses

winged bay
# winged bay I made a full detail video guide explaining Sirens kit, investments, and team co...

Im gonna go ahead and put this here, i go over what each part of her kit means, best team comps, investments, etc. Tried my best to make it a good resource for ppl.
https://youtu.be/tFUgET5oMcA?si=CAjcI8uw5TH525iu

A quick guide on how Little Mermaid works, and how to properly build her.
Nikke: goddess of victory

Nikke title font : https://skuqre.github.io/nikke-font-generator/

Time Stamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:14 Kit Overview
4:50 Should You Pull?
5:24 Build/Investments
6:05 Team Comps
6:48 Conclusion

Songs:
Artificial Shangri La (retro mix)
Unbreakable...

▶ Play video
fiery sandal
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Instead of like D Wife

hot dagger
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I havent read miharas kit

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Yet

chrome sonnet
last cloak
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Why shouldnt it be

mighty kraken
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Should be allowed

winged bay
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I figured its a good resource, made it mainly to share, im not making money or nothin off of it. If its not then i can remove it

mighty kraken
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Sharing anything about siren is allowed here

wheat island
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omw to share siren's onlyfans

mighty kraken
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I liked guitar rock video as well tbh for siren

winged bay
mighty kraken
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As long as it's not off topic

drowsy dagger
mighty kraken
mighty kraken
chrome sonnet
mighty kraken
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Neither of them asked for it

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If it's useful let them post

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If it's useless offtopic no real info, then sure, skip

Or if it causes everyone to spam videos here, then ping mods ig

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I'd rather random community members share their videos than us just spamming nikkegg/prydwen review

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One of the reasons I never used to pin nikkegg/pryd stuff in any thread BlancStare
Share it once and dip

tired pollen
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At 6000 messages, needs more pins.
I'm sure it's been answered, but I can't find it. (Especially since search doesn't work in threads. Thanks Discord.)
Does she replace RRH as B1 in campaign now, or just for Wind-weak stages?

winged bay
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I think shes the besr non niche b1

mighty kraken
winged bay
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When pairs with t helm, Nd 2 mg units, you get full burst in less than 3 seconds

drowsy dagger
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I wish I could use her in campaign but she kills my cp

fiery sandal
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Siren though, can freely make team focus fire.

It’s cool. Very cool. Fighting Behemoth for the first time was aggravating because I kept failing QTEs with my fav team.

Siren would’ve been perfect there.

#

Gravedigger has met its eternal nemesis KEKL

winged bay
uncut blade
lapis gulch
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wait smg doll gives 9.47% attack so SR15 doll is a must

grave remnant
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only normal shots iirc?

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and siren gets her damage from her skills

lapis gulch
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isnt her normal shots strong as well

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its like 10%

fiery sandal
fiery sandal
fiery sandal
# lapis gulch isnt her normal shots strong as well

She’s like 2nd strongest SMG in terms of base basic atk dmg, behind Soline. Among the strongest if we only consider meta units like EQ Quency, but that’s not saying much I think. Kit makes the biggest difference for SMGs

uncut blade
tired pollen
fiery sandal
uncut blade
fiery sandal
lapis gulch
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core hit also counts for normal shots right so its like 2.5x1.0947x0.1

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so extra 25% damage

daring haven
#

When do you use rapi as B1 and when siren?

teal rivet
dreamy cedar
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she was worth it

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thanks guys

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wait i just noticed she focuses fire

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on her own