#[Little Mermaid] New Unit Megathread
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So 4x elem, 4x atk, 2-4x ammo 0-2x crit i guess?
unless they 10x the skill mats + T9 drops (to level to ol) i cba with pvp.. Siren damage looked very good though/higher then expected.. so slightly more hyped now
Might not even get +10

Will see what they do.. i legit didn't pull for crust and fatty.. because i was never gonna waste skill books.. but i have tons of tickets/gems
i don't think you want more than 1 copy for either of these 2 new nikke
use mileage and get +100 pulls
anni nikkes?
there's bound to be some crazy shit later can't hurt to save
the banners are 1% it's your best time to use mileage
They better make eve good seeing how busted they made asuka
yeah i think all collabs will be broken
sss tier
she counters scarlet trina jackal team
i usually go limited>Good banners (rogue/maids) and then gold ticket pilgrim.. this time i have only 240 golds.. which would be fine but i kinda want to mlb mihara
moran in p5
or b1 / b2 in p1 with 2rl
you can't make 3 teams in sp pvp arena that all counter siren
the thing with siren is that how to counter her depends entirely on the rest of the team
she doesn't even need to burst herself
very flexible runs with everyone possibly
Fight the other teams instead 
in rookie you have to do 2rl with a b1 or b2 in p1
Bruh
you can't do b3 in p1
not hard tbh
yes all the teams with scarlet in p1 die to siren
that's how it goes
b1 goes off then b2 goes off then stun
yes that's the shitty part
the issue with moran
she gets clapped by many other teams
it's not good to use moran on defense in rookie or sp pvp
siren ruins pvp basically
or saves it well perspective right
somewhat same honestly i spend a bunch of rocks for good charge speed
and it's all gone now
people can pick a team to win against for free win siren
then all their broken characters they still have can be used vs another team
if 1 team uses moran on def it's np still 2 teams left to choose from
there aren't 3 characters like moran
to counter siren you need a taunt at the start of battle that can target the whole team
noise won't work because she needs to shoot a rocket and it targets p1 p2 so if siren is in p3 p4 p5 she won't get taunted
pvp is prorgrammed in a stupid way
if you have 2x b2 in pve and 1 is stunned you use the other
whatβs she do exactly? Stun the enemy team while giving good burst gen?
in pvp if 1 b2 is stunned none uses their burst
WAIT WHAT
πππππππππππππ
oh my god
siren will just stun 1 character
doesn't matter if it is b1 b2 or b3 and if you have a backup
it just means enemy won't burst
ok we got the ultimate griefer unit
Holy shit
ππππ
@wooden ridge look at this convo. Have fun in your arena after pulling siren.

siren is a free win on attack against many teams she's ridiculous
we need 2 more morans

How would we defend against this shit then

god
Champs arena more like siren arena
yeah it is braindead
Deliberate fuckery is stronger in sp true
what
champs is actually terrible
for siren
she is a menace there
she is ultimately a free win or smthng
for pvp
yea need 2 wins instead of 3 with siren, 1 free 
bro she will literally cook ur ass
in champs
u can make some shitty team 5 with siren and itll work
So we got the ultimate arena nikke
yeah for 1 team

What if I put siren on my def team then, in sp
Same effect?
should be
Oh god
That sounds very specific hahahaha
so it stuns those who are in bubble status
but the requirement to getting bubble is enemy appearing first
first of all, how fast is 50 smg shots in rl terms?
then I presume it stuns those who siren is shooting specifically (if there are multiple bubble)
2.5 noah counters 2rl scarlet
2rl scarlet is also countered by siren
yes 1 target is stunned
I think they put in the enemy appears condition deliberately cuz this unit will def break all arenas and whales wonβt be happy lol
if you build 3 teams of 2rl with a b1 in p1
you can dodge siren stun
but that has other issues
p1 can die pre burst
hmm yea, we have to see if this condition actually applies in pvp
kinda reminds me of viper "special enemy appearing" sort of thing
I find it funny how we are theorizing all this on the fact she will work on PvP
yes that one is boss specific
i can't theorize mihara because 'specific timing' is way too vague
this at least is either it works or doesn't but very clear on what it does if it works
We have that already
It may not be necessarily a free win in pvp if your 3rl team has multiple b1's or b2's positioned somewhere other than p1/p2
what's her specific timing?
here's the thing
if a b1 is stunned no b1 works
in pvp
the reason why soda counters noah jackal team is because when noah is stunned also biscuit won't burst
oh you mean specifically that
yes
yes
but if noah is stunned also biscuit stops bursting
it will wait 1s for noah to burst
thanks i missed this
does it really work that way? I thought the game would just default to the next unit
sounds like a bug? tho
the game presses 'a a a' or something idk wtf
probably something SU will have to take a look at if once it happens out in public (CA)
well b0.5 into b1 still work so it's not that
but yes it should be fixed
and it will fix a lot of the problem that siren brings
if you can just build a double b1 then siren doesn't matter nearly as much
If this is a bug, then the stun should be quite useful
assuming its fixed
assuming the bubble even exist in pvp lol
the crazy thing is
siren isn't even gonna break sp/rookie
bc it's already broken
it'll be interesting for ca though
it's a rock paper scissors right now
and you have to use your brain at least a little bit
siren will beat rock & paper & scissors
I just need to swap one of my team positions around a bit, then I can mostly deal with siren
no you can't
my teams won't completely fall apart, that's good enough
who's the banner unit after this maint?
yeah also moran p5 is a team
4 counters np
my moran team will just have to stay alive using biscuit invuln until moran wakes up 
but these teams won't last against regular ass teams hehe
Siren would bring a gun to a rock paper scissors game 
honestly not a lot of teams can fit siren in
siren doesn't have to burst herself and can be put in any position
But for me, she isnt going to work for PvP
smg is still detriment
WTF IS THIS???
if ppl wanna fit in smg, ppl usually just do makima to protect vs sgs
so siren fits that same role
shift up coding

we learned it with soda stun
and soda stun is 1s so hard to notice but you can still see it
same speed, noise gets stunned but also bursts
any chance they going to fix that or hard abuse?
they might actually fix it now ngl
because if you put on auto burst in pve
it skips the stunned properly
? it skips it properly in pvp
no
noah gets skipped when stunned
no it delays
I have numerous vids where I hear opponent biscuit bursting right before they get nuked due to noah stun
I haven't seen situation where it does
in this scenario he says
biscuit will burst after noah stun ends
SO what could possibly be the OL rolls for Little Mermaid?
atk% ele%
Aside from ATK and Elemental Damage.
4 rocks and done
Ammo. I figured as such. How many slots of ammo? All 4 gear?

dmg calc was
siren will do 50% of sbs dmg
which is pretty hefty still with ele% on counter
siren will do 50% of sbs dmg
JESUS.
hmm is there an obvious tell to exactly when biscuit bursts
aside from helmt heals
I saw 2 extra heal numbers
might be biscuit burst lifesteal
2 instances of 59k heals
should be the 2 splash that biscuit does right before she dies
which indicates biscuit did b2
eve was full of shit? 
this point in time is when the stun is alr over no?
no stun
literally just went away on noah
biscuit bursts so close to the end of the stun that it is hard to tell if the stun is over yet or not
7/7/4?
oh nvm
how long would the delay be? a full second?
biscuit burst does hp over 10s
if it takes 30 frames (in pvp is 1 second) to activate then it's odd because she would have to burst prestun for a burst heal to proc
or does she heal on the dot of her burst basically frame 1
soda also activates her stun on 57 still
but enemies aren't stunned until 56
(visually)
It should have activated right before that pic
Since same speed (I'm a smidge faster)
that small number there?
yes
The 907
looks like a biscuit burst to me, her green text was showing up at the same time rl hit but grew bigger
Here
yes
how fast is soda stun though?
see the number pop up?
does it take like 10 frames to activate
Mine is like 1.9rl
If same speed it cannot block b1 from activating
Need to be faster through cs
if ur the same speed ur never blocking b1
alright then soda stun takes some frames to activate
Yes
i guess we don't know the specific frames
its the same for noise, theres "b1 press" and "b1 activation"
and each nikke is different
eg liter is like 2 frame, rh is like 7
slowly measuring them little by little but 
I went from not being able to block jackal to being able to with cs
Slowest cs needs to be about 10% higher than theirs
so does biscuit burst heal from seconds 0 to 9?
not 1 to 10
generally theres burst press -> burst application -> duration from there
yeah but biscuit says that it does something for 10 seconds
except in this video i assume her first tick of her heal starts at burst activation which is 0 seconds
the duration counts from when the actual buff is applied
her heal isnt a heal its life steal 
she give you life steal for supporters (her own rocket)
ya so noah got stunned -> auto burst biscuit
eve fooled me good 
Siren in 2 hours
time to look into mihara specific timing for pvp
Which boss is the best to compare her and rapiH?

You can try kraken and indiv
Harvester too can
Ultra core and ele advantage, kraken core and siren advantage, harvester core, indivilia core and Rh advantage
Missilis tower boss
Dang man I was scared
All good then

Anni 5 overspec 2 anis will one hit kill nvidia no worries
Siren build? 4 ele 4 atk there you go?
Ammo helps stack abit
Make her ammo 150 or 200
So is Siren better than red rapi for most teams/content
no doro is better
Siren, rapiH, liter, rouge, Tove
Those are B1 in electric, water and wind raids
In fire and iron only siren, liter, rouge, Tove and probably doro or volume
~~yeah iron raids doesn't exist anymore ~~
We dont have any good water sg that go with tove so that can be skipped too I guess
Maybe water P5 doro sheningans or volume
Let's hope they pull a good water SG this year
Burst 3
Peak siren
Siren helper
bro holy dmg
Thats a fuck load lol
how much ele does your sbs have?
since kraken is sbs favored
is it worth to mlb?
If you whale
you will get double mileage out of mlb a real dps
half of sbs still is just half mlb value
so keep 1 copy and mlb mihara?
she's pretty crazy
Doesnt make sense how she do that much
(Potential bug?)
50% of SBS damage at 4/4/4 skill is holy damage lol
it look so 
she worth 10/10/10?
no idea, but i did it since shes best girl from old tales
whats is your sbs ol's
I asked because my sbs ususally folds my wasuka
Do we assume already her OL priority?
ele% atk% ammo%
Noted 
pretty straight forward like a dps
And her cube? Resilience?
honestly 10/4/4 0 OL
0lb also?

why yours did this bad compared to other kraken
where is this
Is that best kraken team now ?
That seems to be more in line compare to this
No
eh no not kraken yet
what's her skill level and cube priority?
S2 needs 10 for sure though
S1 too
S1 is less important
Its cdr skill 
If ure not rotating fast enuf anyways*


10/10/4 then?
7 prob? Why u so cheap lah

Not every team rotates that fast sometimes u can make compromise
which cube tho?
U still want 10 at the end tho
That's what I want to know too
can they freakin add a slide for skill upgrade ffs
Its just S1 is less important than S2 if we want to be 100% objective but S1 has minimum that Id say 7
where is gacha skin

something happened

Highest level cube if wind weak/destruction. Bastion otherwise.
yes
Magick
Fuck my siren got 4 tier 11 atk but not any ele
Its kinda waste to give her more rocks now
SO what skill level does Little Mermaid want anyways?
Minus bosses and some stun- resist mobs
10/10/7 -> 10/10/10
Do we lvl 5 her OL gear too or lvl 0 is enough?
I figured.
stay at Lvl 0 , you broke ass
We're all broke ass

Investments
- OL: 4Γ ELE, 4Γ ATK, 1~2Γ Max Ammo + Crit Flexes
- Skills: 4/4/4 β 7/7/7 β 10/10/7 β 10/10/10
- Cube: If Wind-Weak, highest level cube for maximum ELE. Otherwise, Bastion if no Reload Speed buffer. Resilience if with Reload Speed buffer.
By Momoland:
u can opt for
lv3-5 helmet
lv3 chest+arm
lv0 boot
economically
SRlv5

*yoink
Alright spill out investment
sakura levels of dps lmao
on who
CHRIST Little Mermaid can shit out a lot of damage.
Is asuka or Sakura better for kraken
Sbs core?
Alright thanks
sakura also mlb
wind raiders are eating good
sakura 7/10/10, sbs 10/7/10
That's makes sense now lol
i aint gonna manual alice on mobile
I'm pretty fucking impressed at how much damage Little Mermaid can shit out.
Thats fine
She deal around 1b on average and at the very least by what people posted
My calc was right ish
I just didnt look at team properly 
10/7/7
Best arena unit ever
OH NO she's busted!
It seems that because of how strong RRH (and Crown) are, you're bound to (theoretically) see Little Mermaid a lot.
and forgot to lvl up these
for endgame acc would you rather mlb mihara or siren
Mihren
you get more use out of mermaid as she is used in more places
end game acc should have those pilgrim maxed out
both 1 copy so u can make use of thousand of pulls and wishlist
Is this mlb
Dayum she puttin numbers
why is dealing less dps than a real b3 an obvious mlb?
still less value
she's impressive for a b1
if this was b3 numbers we'd be laughing
dps tend to get crept faster than supports
im done lmao
Holy moly
is there pins in threads?
well just 1 question really, should i 10/10/10 siren?
just got her in 30 pulls
now i have 90 pulls + 220 gold mileage for Mihara
whats the build 120 ele? lmao
Wtf
So, rapi WAS powercrapt xd
Is she bugged?
100%
i knew it was worth skipping Bready since i just put her in Wishlist
not in this game
blanc noir > tia naga > crown is pretty fast powercreep and maids are a competitive option too
meanwhile pilgrim dps? all great except modernia rn
but close to 120%
if you did mlb sbs for example you would still have the best wind dps in the game rn
10/10/10 max doll
...
right here
is asuka or sakura better for kraken ?
this is what 25 looks like
Crazy ol its already perfect just need to reroll numbers
So, is siren better B1 than rapi?
that's crazy
Or is it just on kraken?
Unless element dmg is involved for RRH, I guess?
u bring up a good point
you can still mlb siren tbh
kraken
Does she does more damage as B1 than rapi always? Or just on wind weak?
but in this game both can last a very long time
sky's kraken
for now i havent test off ele
is his wasuka good?
imma be real
no idea
now he will try helm
my siren is just her
so Siren DPS is higher compared to QEQ?
how many ammo do we want
50 rocks, that's only a month or 2 worth of rocks been saving
ok I got 3 ele 2 att 2 ammo
with 30 rocks
now I'm empty and have to save for mihara
20 rocks no ele but 4 atk dunno if I should continue 
y r u guys spending so much rocks on siren?
4 rocks
ok final roll
110 ele
30% atk
120 Ammo
wtf these are better than fcking DPS :v
brciked :v
400-500m off ele
im gonna follow your path ken
is just going to become my second crown with super sub stats
you guys said she sucked pre release
I never did
Nobody believed me, smh
bro just give even better stats to siren and she is going to overcreep your sbs
no cap

and she is just 7/7/7
but only for wind right
or is it better overall?
siren on ultra
I thought I could cheese with Mod burst
7/10/5
her burst is weak
whatever at 4 or 5
interesting i see people maxing her
so...
So, she's only busted ok wind weak

what do you expected broken on neutral lol
yea... max core her,.
7 on every skill
he expected something like a red hood situation happening agian
where is just useful anywhere
Btw how good is she as a support? You know, the burst gage filling, ammo refund
incredebile
went from stage 7 to stage 8 on semi auto kraken swapping for rapi lol
Is she actually better than rapi on mg teams?
fr?
better at least on kraken
worth it right?
full auto Rapi fels better bcs she can clear missiles
Obviously, she's not rapi :p
Pvp when
is she a pilgrim?
but if u want max core supposedly not recommended
Yes?
Ok where are the tests
what hte
but semi/ manual SIren def better, huge dmg and can FB aim even outside FB to aim the tentacles
blasmefy
Someone give me siren pvp vid
oh right that's wh y missiles werent cleared hmm
well stage 8 is pointless anyways so I guess ill keep rapi
Well, siren is busted but rapi still has job, the best ending
Funny how much stuff to screw over kraken we have received recently
Windsuka, maids, now Siren
better
8 s1 feels zero cd to me
oh god guys
I already have her core 7

I bought her after 100th
Just pull 100 times for 100%
mileaged inmediatly
I got 400 millage so Luckily I can skip this one
i feel scammed already
already used the 200 pulls i had saved up
just gonna mileage
use free pulls first
I can't find rouge's page rah
you get 1 every day
Hey, at least is not Isabel
now i have all pilgrims
except the one i wanted
nice
dont all in Siren
fr?
The only nikke I think is actually worth mlb or core are rapi or Rh, since they are attackers that buff others based on their attack, and also busted dps on their own right
how outcome
imagine this is siren
it shouldnt be the other way around?
real
mermaid is for campaign + kraken + raid + pvp
mihara is for raid only
wht was red hood for
mihara might have better numbers but siren is best
best girl
LB0 10/7/7 lv0 OLs 23% EleDMG on Kraken
it says conduct "little mermaid" banner
A third fire mg dps, just what we needed!
^
get a few pulls back
Thats unlock 1 at a time so total are yes 700
Pulling 700 refunds 100
a team of Mihara, RRH, Crown, Siren gonna be interesting with dem Ammo consumption lol
Anyone tested wille ammo clear
him had
he prob has the answers you need
answer is i don't know lol
mindless aim gameplay with Siren
lmao sky's chat "Do we reset modernia" lol
reall
what is little mermaids best generalist campaign team rn?
aight. time to reset modernia
i never used her
scarlet was my first.
wait. i need to reset scarlet too aint it
scarlet is for pvp
lol I didnt have to reset anyone yet
I had stacked a nice amount
and drake event holy shit
tons
the new drake event also shat out so much mats
I reset my sw and mw
sus
and im not even hafl
guys
I hope I can hoard once again until next iron sr
the one that substitutes alice event
its still up
road to villain
does Siren need Max Ammo OL?
road to villain?
yes
why u guys talking if it were a past event
I didnt lol
Both of these fuckers are good
i guess im doing road to villain then
Quest
Test 1-2 MG/ SMG team, specifically to benefit Syren
Test 3-4-5. SR/ RL Teams, specificially to hinder Syren
everyone did less dps?
siren buff feels a bit weak
yeah
is she 10/10/10
she's Rapi B1, be there for CDR and DPS
Is your Rapi 10 all
thats too sad
yup
Syren trigger FB more times and increases the DPS of the team but you want her on a team that decks out bullets like water
Not a good test then lol

Mine is 10 all with 3 ele 3 atk 1 ammo atm I think
a team with SR/ RL or Last Bullet is detrimental to her
wdym I was testing her dmg buff not her dps
so privaty and dorothy wont be good with her
can someone explain how she is buffing better than liter
Her dmg buff comes from skills
Your skills arenβt maxed
against neutral
Why would you put dorothy with Syren?
i have no reason. is just the last bullet mechanic made me remember both 

i think is time i reset dorothy too
i havent used her since. since r h
I reset her first thing I logged in lol

eternally benched
Forever
i still used doro as a team 5 cdr but now that is over

I can confirm that whatever stun bug that some of you mentioned earlier today does not/no longer seems to exist
bro that video somehow decodec itself one sec
but.
well time to test in pvp
insane
im just gonna copy that defense
im gonna become evil
so only the omega leviathans can kill me
agreed
is that 2rl?
b2 gets stunned?
yep 2rl against 3rl scar team
so 2rl b2 is not safe
basically since noah is stunned, b2 goes to biscuit instead of pausing / delaying the whole burst
yep i saw
well good shit is that we have a god tier b1 wind
we cooking again
this time ill reach stage 7
xd
siren seems to stun people exactly by 2RL
nah this team have some charge speed, but none that breaks the threshold
i mean like
lowest charge speed is 0%?
or 4%
do you know?
lowest percentage matters for team wide charge speed
oh no guys
2 hours to add a siren team to wreck it
Sup everyone, how's siren lookin?

My noah and biscuit has no charge speed
run kraken and buy t9m selectors
so 0% I guess

i think if you have 4% you can dodge siren
4% at lowest
dont worry i had to strip away Rapunzel's boots for Siren

so still best way is to farm kraken and use the 100 box
they are all mlb
that was a joke
i havent obtained sig gear since kraken
idk how whale are you but

me neither
i guess
I'm out of tetra gear
just for the lolz lmao
im actually very low on manufacturer gears
same
and they still keep bringing new nikkes
so im kinda screwed when Overspec Mihara releases
I have 20 conversions tho lol
yeeeah
ill get stripped out of my top powers manufactureers
ill have to start buying those conversions in the shop
i didnt buy them before because i thought they were useless

Is it a good idea to take siren to 7/7/7 rn? I say it because of the shifty rewards thingy, I wanted to 10/7/10 Cindy since I'm stuck on mirror
s2>s1>>>>>>>>burst
is 8.87% rng mind u
so getting the one u really want is
heh
siren stats?
So, I should do it and invest on Cindy later
I actually got a supporter Pilgrim gear from it a few days ago
which i needed for Siren

no way our siren can be this cute overcreeping
110 ele
30% atk
120% ammo
Gimme 
Gimmie too 

68 gems down the drain and I only got three element OLs
pretty much yeah
ludmilla cause of DTaken
thanks for the test
really good to know it still works
and getting to the last phase reward
oh the new feature is so when a mg is shooting is always stable at 60fps?
Is burst gen diff now
check that frame stabilizer on pvp?
She is kinda weak
What's the new shot/s in PvP
Is she?
No she's basically RRH sidegrade
No wonder
With more utility for b1
Whoa mg fixed?
I dont think turning that feature on/off is gonna affect pvp since all calc is done server-side right?
Also does her stun work in campaign?
Ok
She can stun every rapture?
She is decent them
'decent'
Turn it off if your opponent has mg to grief him

RRH sidegrade is decent now

she's a monster in wind weak
lmao, lemme call SU to implement that feature
Just check a video don't need to turn on anything I think man
Next year we gonna start calling sbs Mid
I would pull 40 on every banner regardless
I dont have Red Rapi so ill take whatever Siren has
40 purple mats
Nah just gonna pull
so she's mid?
π
Diesel is MG, right?
I dont exactly have the video editing software to check frame by frame, so here's a stopwatch from edge
wouldn't be better using Maid Mast?
@acoustic aspen analyse pls thanks
I've included all them automatic guns for your convenience
does it stabilize dps now?
Idk bro lol that's why I asked for vid

What else should he use
Anything else
ah no bastion
Oh ye that too





















