[Little Mermaid] New Unit Megathread

[wet parcel]

Bro, if I understand correctly, her stun only works on Bubble statused enemies. And Bubble status only activates when "Target appears". And since there's no "Target" on PVP, imo, her stun will never activate.

[viral smelt]

That's 100% sss tier campaign

Takes 2.5s to stun each

[mighty kraken]

we dont know

[mighty kraken]

yeah i agree if she stuns tbh

[quiet oriole]

she only stuns one target at a time so eeh, could use it on silencers I guess

[outer cradle]

shes going to be so useful against that one rapture that silences you

[mighty kraken]

overall in bossing I think she's SSS as well
Maybe drop dwife to SS now

[willow locust]

The way I see it she has two MG-heavy team options? Looking something like:

Siren/Mari/Asuka W/Rapi RH/Xlud or ReiT or healer

or just fire team, Siren/Grave/Asuka/ReiA/Modernia

I don't think you want to put her with Crown in SR, since you're doubling up taking both Crown's reload speed and Siren's reload 33% every burst buffs

[sterile kelp]

And remove Tia

[mighty kraken]

tia naga still used though

[wet parcel]

I think the "Activates when enemy appears" at the skill description is a translation error, it meant "Activates when Target appear" (Boss rapture) so yeah, it won't work on PVP

[chrome sonnet]

RH SS is insane

[steel ridge]

other than boss, all regular mobs can be stunned?

[sterile kelp]

Last time we can use Tia+Naga is in Feb

[willow locust]

hopefully it's not only Bosses, since bosses can't be fucking stunned

[mighty kraken]

when was the last time u used her as b3

[chrome sonnet]

if the bosses weren't complete garbage she'd still be SSS

[mighty kraken]

she is used for SG team though

[chrome sonnet]

but shiftdown doesn't know how to design bosses

[mighty kraken]

last raid used quite a bit

[willow locust]

hold up wtf is tha tteam

[mighty kraken]

and that was no core boss

[willow locust]

Tia/Doro/Xguillo/Xlud/Naga

did they forget boss doesn't have a core??

[mighty kraken]

was used by konto

cant use doror with bunnies

[stuck hemlock]

Buff wise
Siren:
5% damage taken
14% att damage

Rapipi b1:
8% att damage
18% att

[willow locust]

cursed

I guess the last boss did need healing too

which raises Naga's value

[stuck hemlock]

Strictly speaking its almost the same? Since att gets diluted heavily

[willow locust]

I think Siren is probably a better support than Rapi RH since she also gives burst gen & reload buffs

[mighty kraken]

yeah but rrh is like x2 the dps

[willow locust]

even if rrh gives more DPS

[viral smelt]

can silencer even be stunned? ?

[stuck hemlock]

Rrh b1 loses alot of her s1 and burst damage

[mighty kraken]

would need to check with priv

[viral smelt]

some of them are stun resistence, like the one that bind you

[stuck hemlock]

Siren s2 doew 850% every 2s off burst if you pack 4 MG unit together

[mighty kraken]

yeah but she still does a lot

[stuck hemlock]

Plus 250% every second in burst

[minor willow]

Llmmmaaooo what the hell is 4% buff

[viral smelt]

do i do calc @mighty kraken

[floral vine]

Raon is here

[minor willow]

Shit must be typo 14%

[viral smelt]

maincord is coping so hard with saying the kit is lvl 1 value

[floral vine]

Guys it must be a typo they forgot 1 zero in all the numbers in her kit

[echo herald]

@viral smelt I thought u retired

[viral smelt]

i am

[echo herald]

Imo she's not bad

[mighty kraken]

no it isnt lvl1 value, its pretty much the standard buffs they give to any of the new cdr we have received

DWife, Rouge, RRH, and now SIren

i dont see anything wrong with this kit

[chrome sonnet]

tbf that's all we can hope for

no way 4% is a lvl 10 value

[mighty kraken]

idk what the ruckus is about

[viral smelt]

ppl see 4% immediately think its bad

[stuck hemlock]

Tbh i think we haven't explor3d fully... cos her s2 damage looks huge

[viral smelt]

thats the ruckus

lol

[echo herald]

Yep

[steel ridge]

7.5s cdr in itself is a huge "buff" already for the team

[echo herald]

Don't get swayed

[mighty kraken]

well not everyone can be liter

and also note that liter is 5s

[echo herald]

[runic yew]

ofcourse

She's a supporter

[viral smelt]

ppl forgot all Rapihood B1 team buff is 18% atk

[runic yew]

We're supposed to look at team buff numbers first

[viral smelt]

lol

[runic yew]

[stuck hemlock]

Ya lol

[echo herald]

Nice to have u around malder

Update the sheet pls

[viral smelt]

what should i calc on anyways

[mighty kraken]

I guess like

RHB1, Siren, RRH are now SSS tier campaign

SSS is
RRH, Liter, maybe siren over dwife now

Like im pretty confident that siren > dwife no matter what

[viral smelt]

siren vs rh as B1 damage

[echo herald]

Do what u do best

Meth cooking

[mighty kraken]

u can use rhb1 with siren actually

[fiery sandal]

B1 CDR.

B1 Burst Gen.

B1 "support" carry just like Dorothy unless the numbers math out to pathetic.

All hail Siren, our Queen!

[mighty kraken]

since siren burst trash

[floral vine]

Maths cooking yay

[floral vine]

[reef zephyr]

Siren > DWife is not even a hot take
better CDR, more general buffs, personal damage

[willow locust]

I think her 33% reload is being slept on

It'll mean that e.g. MG teams with enough max ammo OLs can just shoot infinitely right?

[viral smelt]

oh thats huge

thats new campaign meta right there lol

[mighty kraken]

Yeah with rrh as b3 too

[echo herald]

Yep

[mighty kraken]

only problem is no helm/naga

[copper trout]

what's her fire rate?
like single or dual smg?

[teal rivet]

Thats kinda true seeing last raid we use volume and rhb1 with rapi

[mighty kraken]

20/s

[viral smelt]

what
RH Siren Crown 2X dps
ah

[serene torrent]

Complain powercrept, dev give decent kit, yall complain not powercrept enough

[fiery sandal]

The issue is MGs - she works best with bullets burn. So, Rapi Hood B3. Fits like a glove.

And don't forget the upcoming Mihara over-spec.

We're looking at Siren + Crown + Rapi Hood + Mihara over-spec + Naga for that core dmg insanity, just to name one example

[copper trout]

around 15/s for pvp?

[minor willow]

Shitup wanna pull another pseudo dps masquerading as support like dorosi but half-ass extra hard this time

[quiet oriole]

I mean 1% is expected to be OP

[muted turret]

I know why values are low, she does NOT hold a weapon

[copper trout]

so if she apply bubble debuff and don't switch target it takes her around 3.5RL time to stun single enemy in pvp

[reef zephyr]

wait till her favourite item

[viral smelt]

sounds off

[teal rivet]

Would I use her over rapi when farming rocks in kraken btw

[fiery sandal]

She won't get a favorite item. She only has to say the words and Commander becomes her favorite item

[viral smelt]

3.3s isnt the same as 3.5RL no?

[stuck hemlock]

If you got elem damage than yes

Smg got extra core damage as well

[fiery sandal]

Yeah. Built Siren with serious elemental damage % will probably overtake B1 Rapi Hood vs Kraken

[willow locust]

Privaty Stun Meta would be pretty funny ngl

• 2RL Privaty team stuns for 3s
• Siren then stuns 1.5 seconds later for another 3 seconds
• hopefully you've managed to kill enough of their team by now they can't burst

[runic yew]

Siren Crown RH RRH + 1 DPS flex

[mighty kraken]

siren needs heals

we need b1cdr healers

[willow locust]

[runic yew]

why heals ?

[willow locust]

Siren is still our first B1CDR ammo support

Liter's max ammo is nice, but it doesn't help infinite shooting like Crown/Balice/etc

[runic yew]

Just pop RH B1 twice

and clear the stage

[mighty kraken]

to trigger crown

[runic yew]

it doesnt matter in stage clear then

in boss then yes

[copper trout]

it's gonna be later if their taunter died and siren was hitting taunter before hitting the main dps etc.

[minor willow]

Shitup's making the kit extra convoluted by dropping in useless buff for no reason. Remove that irrelevant 5% enemy damage taken, x5 the 4% on S1 into 20% damage buff instead lmaaoo

[stuck hemlock]

Siren shooting 50 times will stun all enemiea with bubble status if i am reading it right?

[runic yew]

RH as B1 dmg buff + burst gen

[stuck hemlock]

Doesn't need to hit them at all

[copper trout]

so in pvp during full burst siren can help disable a lot of targets
that is if she applied bubble in the first place

[frosty mulch]

Id rather use liter - Sky

[steel ridge]

yeah I even go sbs-crown-alice-rh-rapipi on hard. granted after MC, there's not really a hard wall again, so I'm not on high CP Diff

[viral smelt]

im reading it as single stun

[willow locust]

only the target hit 50 times

oh I see what you're saying

[willow locust]

[stuck hemlock]

Yup it stuns once, but every time new enemies spawn it inflicts a bubble status on them which will explode after 50shots

[teal rivet]

Only the target your shots land

[viral smelt]

lemme read again

[willow locust]

Ludmilla is worded the same way

XLud

so presumably Siren also only is 1 target at a time

[minor willow]

sidegrade liter but with extra useless complication on skill

[viral smelt]

nah that's single stun

[stuck hemlock]

Man i thought global stun would gives tons of qol in campaign lol

Everytime new enemy spawn they get stunned in 2.5s

[reef zephyr]

high res siren kit

[mighty kraken]

@chrome sonnet

[copper trout]

stunning those silencer and volleyball or whatever raptures

[reef zephyr]

you pinned the low res one anyway

[viral smelt]

even selective stun already a huge qol
also she force all allies to focus fire without full burst
wonder what that'd be useful for

[mighty kraken]

idk what i was typing i forgot

[reef zephyr]

might as well

[willow locust]

Liter doesn't give burst gen, and only gives max ammo instead of a direct relaod

I don't think it's as simple as being a sidegrade, how much the team needs the two aforementioned support buffs will matter a lot

[reef zephyr]

not tryna fight, no drama

[plush portal]

kraken

[minor willow]

if 4% is lv10 What'd lv1 be like? 0.4%?!!

[viral smelt]

[viral smelt]

like half

[stuck hemlock]

So MG won't reload

When boss jumping

[plush portal]

its one use case 🤷‍♂️

[stuck hemlock]

Siren slave driver confirmed, no rest allowed

[mighty kraken]

is
siren grave mgmgmg

higher bullet count than 2000

[stuck hemlock]

All keep shooting

[plush portal]

wall of lead team

[runic yew]

Siren Grave THelm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564334719077056522/1312386152677900308/suoooooghmi.gif

[mighty kraken]

not by much

it isnt enough for extra proc

[chrome sonnet]

THE KIT IS PINNED MF STOP PINNING IT

[mighty kraken]

hmm

[willow locust]

actually there's another hidden benefit to Siren

she should prevent a last-bullet team from having the not-manualed Nikke reload while boss is gone (e.g. QTE event)

[mighty kraken]

but siren has reload

[chrome sonnet]

also that kit is the same res as pinned

[mighty kraken]

ah

[plush portal]

https://tenor.com/view/volley-fire-gif-22469550

[rapid badger]

Modernia, AsumaW

[chrome sonnet]

shiftup doesn't create high quality anymore

[rapid badger]

AsukaW consumed all ammo when her burst ended

[chrome sonnet]

[mighty kraken]

doro pales in comparison to siren in dps terms if we involve ele

[minor willow]

if kit real, then skip til Collab

[willow locust]

if you tap-dance with Siren outside burst do you think she makes the rest of the team pop in and out of cover to cancel their relaods too??

[chrome sonnet]

it's insane how even the EN version on twitter is blurry

good job shiftdown

can't even upload a clean image anymore

[mighty kraken]

check what they did to blalba

blabla

[stuck hemlock]

Mihara gonna make siren better

They hidden duo

[chrome sonnet]

i don't use that broken malfunctioning tool

[viral smelt]

tapdance for mg

[mighty kraken]

check it

[willow locust]

this is a hypothetical alternative use for Siren

[muted turret]

So u saying that works with siren 400 bullet consumed skill?

[mighty kraken]

they added a theme

[reef zephyr]

why the fu
I downloaded the 1920x1080 image
and it always turns to shit on discord

[willow locust]

instead of MG team, last bullet team

[chrome sonnet]

oh that theme

yea

[stuck hemlock]

Last bullet team is so 2023

[chrome sonnet]

my thoughts about blabla:
9:16 resolution on a 16:9 screen - great devs 0/10 - would fire immediatly

[stuck hemlock]

Wherw my doro treasure

[willow locust]

it'll come back!!

she even stuns enemies to help Privaty deal damage

[runic yew]

Mihara kit in 15 mins

[chrome sonnet]

Every AI in existence can program better

[minor willow]

indie company bruhh

Can't ask for much

[copper trout]

mihara be spending twice more ammo than normal for example

[stuck hemlock]

Siren is like doro with better cdr and "buffs" with and similar damage?

[chrome sonnet]

Yup that one's on me my bad

[mighty kraken]

@viral smelt i need math for her damage

compare it to sakura BIS

[chrome sonnet]

I bet my Alice still is 9/4/10 on blabla

[stuck hemlock]

Default 600 ammo but consumes double the rate

Maybe

[mighty kraken]

siren crown b3 b3 Flex

Liter Crown SSakura B3 Flex

[viral smelt]

im waiting for mihara

huh why sakura?

[reef zephyr]

SSakura powercreep by a damn B1 imagine

[viral smelt]

[mighty kraken]

wind dps

[viral smelt]

no well from eye math i think her self damage is around doro

on neutral

[mighty kraken]

it shouldnt be

it should be higher

doro isnt affected by ele

only atk

and external buffs dont buff doro

[viral smelt]

on neutral

[mighty kraken]

so her nuke is trash

[stuck hemlock]

Siren doesn't care what elem

[mighty kraken]

ye thats why i want u to compare with ssakura

[chrome sonnet]

oh yea @mighty kraken the password login on blabla is still broken please fix

fuuuuuuuuuuck this background is so ugly

[viral smelt]

siren has ~5000% addition damage that's buffable
Doro has 9000% unbuffable + 1000% buffable?

[mighty kraken]

wdym i have literally never had a problem with it

[chrome sonnet]

why is my alice still 9/4/10 on blabla

[mighty kraken]

5934%

6k

[mighty kraken]

i just wanted to show theme

go back to main page

[viral smelt]

that's assuming alot of MG

[chrome sonnet]

great tool 0/10 fire all devs

[chrome sonnet]

ugly and annoying

[mighty kraken]

3 MG + HelmT

Siren Crown RRH Mihara HelmT

2000 shots in 10s

[copper trout]

don't worry my pepper 4OL with 1/12 lines

[viral smelt]

sounds right ig

6000% then

[chrome sonnet]

LMFAOOOOOOO

[viral smelt]

so abit more than doro at most

[chrome sonnet]

small indie company

[viral smelt]

between doro and rapiB1

[chrome sonnet]

can't lookup data from their own servers unfortunate

[mighty kraken]

how much of rrh

thatd be a good stat to have

[viral smelt]

idk
eye math

[runic yew]

At least she doesnt need another character to enable CDR like Doro

That's a plus point

[viral smelt]

ill wait for mihara kit
call me when its up

absolutely

[runic yew]

[stuck hemlock]

I count 6.7k% assuming 4MG and withing the 10s fullburst duration

[grave remnant]

her damage isn't dot or dis?

[mighty kraken]

what if we get cdr cube

[runic yew]

that's not gonna happen

[viral smelt]

assuming 4MG is too much

[reef zephyr]

stop cooking

[runic yew]

maybe new cube is

sustain dmg up

[willow locust]

gimme anti wingman

ammo reduction cube

[viral smelt]

given how trash it is i can see this

[runic yew]

it's good to be trash

[stuck hemlock]

Give dd up

[mighty kraken]

cant wait for crust buff value on a cube

[serene torrent]

How about life steal cube

[runic yew]

So my lv10 destruction cube isn't a cope

[stuck hemlock]

Allow bready to be solo uniy

[copper trout]

how about a new cube eating 1 extra ammo for no reasons

[reef zephyr]

actually? then we can run Bready on Lingering with a B2 that isn't shit

[stuck hemlock]

Crown+viper

[minor willow]

that 400 shot requirement = useless on Alice+Rh dps

[mighty kraken]

@viral smelt

doro burst not affected by fbm

while siren's is

[viral smelt]

i know

[mighty kraken]

so its 6kx1.5

and i think thats 9k

[stuck hemlock]

Doro kit aged fucking poorly

[runic yew]

tfw I have to wait until May 1st to use rocks

[stuck hemlock]

And people 2years ago saying liter getting powercrept

[runic yew]

[mellow flicker]

wait she's trash?

[viral smelt]

fair enough

[solemn summit]

@mighty kraken

Is this true

[mighty kraken]

doro dwife got 0 chance over siren

liter ramp up lets her down

so only real competition is rrh

[mighty kraken]

who is this

can u tldr

[solemn summit]

She’s better than Rapi

In Kraken team

[mighty kraken]

no she is not better than rapi

[willow locust]

Just want to check my math is right, every second:

• Siren fires 20 bullets
• Grave fires 12
• Asuka fires 12
• ReiA fires 60
• Modernia fires 60

So in standard fire team, Siren's S1 triggers every 2.44 seconds, and S2 every 3.04 seconds?

Meanwhile in full MG team (Siren + 4MG) it's every 1.92 seconds?

That's a pretty big jump between a generic team and dedicated 4MG

[mighty kraken]

oh in kraken team yes she is better than rapi

[solemn summit]

How lol

[runic yew]

tbh

we can use

[mighty kraken]

i mean shes a wind dps bruh

[runic yew]

Siren Grave Mihara Rapi Mod

[willow locust]

slightly less buffs in return for doing good wind damage

[runic yew]

I want Mod has infinite ammo too

[viral smelt]

then again is it worth it to force a 4MG to add some damage to a single support unit

[stuck hemlock]

Rapipi buffs ain't great either

[solemn summit]

Enough to lose one of the best B1/B3 hybrid DPSers?

[mighty kraken]

yeah rapi doesnt buff

[willow locust]

in wind raids it might be

[stuck hemlock]

Just a few% diff overall

[mighty kraken]

fym b3

rapi isnt a wind unit

[copper trout]

waiting for chime 15s buff to pair with crown

[mighty kraken]

she cant win vs siren in wind

[solemn summit]

She acts like a b1 but does b3 damage

[willow locust]

another question is if she wants to be paired with WAsuka

[teal rivet]

Siren like that too

[mighty kraken]

she does great damage for a b1 unit in neutral but she cant compete with ED bro

[stuck hemlock]

Rapi b1 losea her s1 and burst damage buffs

[solemn summit]

[mighty kraken]

@viral smelt pls get siren damage i need proof

or @acoustic aspen pls stop working and work on siren

[viral smelt]

im waiting for mihara kit

[stuck hemlock]

If no core and off elem she doesn't do much

[teal rivet]

3 mins cope then

[acoustic aspen]

[stuck hemlock]

But smg got some extra core damage

[acoustic aspen]

lmao

eh

core?

what is that

[drifting steeple]

Do you think RH and modernia burst doesn't count as consuming ammo?

[stuck hemlock]

Kraken kinda close range so it does matter

[runic yew]

Core is avaiable

in Mat-H UR

upcoming

[stuck hemlock]

[mighty kraken]

for limited time

[acoustic aspen]

core is behind my fat belly

[rapid badger]

450% ammo increase on OL assuming bastion

[rapid badger]

@runic yew

How much Noir refund again

[stuck hemlock]

Xlud+bastion+siren ammo refund?

[runic yew]

40%

39.88%

[runic yew]

https://youtu.be/R4M1xi8qLVc

Permanent core

[willow locust]

Siren basically gives the benefit of Noir without the cost of an entire flex slot

[zinc crane]

SR9...

[runic yew]

[zinc crane]

I miss old days

[zinc crane]

fun mechanics

[stuck hemlock]

Seeing scarlet there

[runic yew]

It's 39.88%

but just do 40%

For black people

[acoustic aspen]

I don't think it works like that

[rapid badger]

Siren 33.26%

[viral smelt]

?

[runic yew]

But Siren alone is better than bunnies

[mighty kraken]

yoooooooo

wtf

[rapid badger]

MG infinite ammo stuff

[mighty kraken]

mat H is easy then this raid wtf

[runic yew]

Instantly burst

So you can keep up with ammo refill

[acoustic aspen]

cuz the refund ammo immediately restores your ammo which is also generating even more ammo from bastion

[runic yew]

Bunnies is like

3 slots for just 40% ammo refund

[rapid badger]

MG infinite ammo tech

[runic yew]

So Siren is better alot

overall

[willow locust]

Noir is basically dead at this point I reckon

[rapid badger]

Noir solo for refund

[runic yew]

Just pull C7 Siren to enjoy Mat-H

Wind carry

[rapid badger]

You don't need other 777 member

[runic yew]

Yeah then what's the point of using Noir alone

Blanc goes waste

And it's still B1 CDR + Noir

[rapid badger]

Blanc + Rouge bruh

[willow locust]

Just run Blanc with Cindy and skill reset Noir

[runic yew]

Rouge doesnt need Blanc

[stuck hemlock]

PvP? Lol

[runic yew]

Electric comp doesnt need Blanc

[stuck hemlock]

Clip SG

[rapid badger]

Blanc need 777 member

Or just brick blanc

[runic yew]

Yeah but what i'm talking about here

Best comp combination

Electric doesnt need Blanc

Noir solo => Blanc wasted

And bunnies mostlikely stick with SG nowsaday

[stuck hemlock]

Noir treasure

Make her dps

[runic yew]

So overall on ammo refill , Siren is better alot alot

[stuck hemlock]

Like drakw

[runic yew]

Even with lower number

[stuck hemlock]

But wind

[runic yew]

Cause you can get that ammo refill with 2 sec after FB

Again again and again

[mighty kraken]

@rapid badger can u eli5

compared to noir, how good is siren ammo refill

[teal rivet]

Lmao how come they skip mihara kits and give mori kits first

[rapid badger]

Siren solo refill mg

[stuck hemlock]

Cos they last min buffing

[rapid badger]

Noir solo refill

[mighty kraken]

why is noir lower

[rapid badger]

Total ammo% increase required to invest for infinite ammo

So lower is better

[runic yew]

also rmb to do 15 burts compare to 14 bursts

[rapid badger]

Desmos stuff

[mighty kraken]

oh u need 356% ammo for infinite ammo with noir

but 450% ammo for infinite with siren

?

[rapid badger]

I haven't simulate with desmos

So ammo bleeding is not in equation

[rapid badger]

Yeah, assuming you attack for infinite duration

[runic yew]

I'm still thinking about Siren Crown

Like

[willow locust]

is that with Bastion?

[runic yew]

The reloading spd buff is kinda waste

[teal rivet]

Yea its gonna be tomorrow at this rate lmao

[runic yew]

Only useful on THelm

[rapid badger]

Yeah duh

[mighty kraken]

https://youtu.be/eLM5bRxso1Y?si=Ei-JY3UpaoGyc6Ez

omg these guys are so downright retarded

[rapid badger]

What else you use, fucking wingman?

[mighty kraken]

they showcase every unit on normal shooting range but now they go on bosss??

[willow locust]

hey, if max ammo can be achieved with parts cube that's better

[mighty kraken]

fucking dumbasses

show me if she stuns u fkrs

[empty mulch]

So… arena unit?

[willow locust]

I mean is 350% even achievable? That's like 4 black max ammo lines right?

[rapid badger]

Someone go simulate on desmos, not me

[runic yew]

Also @mighty kraken

I think they did this on purpose

They already targeted on SG comp from the start

That + 5 ammo

[minor willow]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-kingofbayst-wes-hall-dragons-den-writing-gif-24572885

[royal gazelle]

Hehe, looks like it wasn't last hit after all

Guess that explains the synergy with MGs. 400 rounds with SR/RL is gg

[minor willow]

Could never proc :(((

[dim dove]

lol my skip comment turned out to be unironic

[drowsy dagger]

its a cdr unit, you're forced to pull

just like rouge

[willow locust]

yeah 1 copy is necessity

dupes probably only relevant if you're chasing wind raids

[mighty kraken]

how is it skip

[muted turret]

so we pity or use that event which give 10 pulls backs when u used 40?

[chrome sonnet]

Elija my 2nd favorite tutel how you doin

[willow locust]

use pity the event looks like a scam

100 tickets for a few measly doll mats

[coarse crystal]

I believe you need 100 pulls total for that yeah

[willow locust]

you mean 100 pulls

10% refund on pulls isn't enough to make 1% rateup worth it

save for collab & summer

[drowsy dagger]

who's the first

[chrome sonnet]

@fallen wigeon

[drowsy dagger]

also good hbu

my year was so busy I just logged in daily

[near marlin]

where is the must pull pin tag

[mighty kraken]

Should You Pull? / Is She Good?

Must pull one copy
MLB for competitive players since she has some DPS in her
I wouldn't recommend C7 unless you're going for very high ranks on Wind SR

[chrome sonnet]

pretty good. busy work

[near marlin]

here it is

[chrome sonnet]

SYP / ISG ?

nah mlb is mental

unless you aim for top 50 SR 1 copy is enough

probably even top 25

[mighty kraken]

read what i wrote

[drowsy dagger]

if siren says mlb you can't fight it

[chrome sonnet]

MLB for competitive players
wouldn't recommend C7 unless you're going for very high ranks

mf competitive means alot

[reef zephyr]

even if she hits more than doro, she's still just a B1

[chrome sonnet]

Should You Pull? / Is She Good?

Must pull one copy
1 copy for competitive players since she has some DPS in her
I wouldn't recommend MLB unless you're going for very high ranks on Wind SR

[minor willow]

Don't run mg since shitup ain't fixed framerate cap problem
Is Siren worth it for Alice+RH??

[reef zephyr]

tbf if there's a chance to guarantee her, now's the time

[muted turret]

top 200 SR is competitve? 1 copy should be good enough for that

[near marlin]

chat do i continue cooking for kraken

Siren crown MastM SBS RapiRH

is the food burned?

[chrome sonnet]

yup

[muted turret]

for afk kraken rhh still better, coz she will help clear those rockets

[chrome sonnet]

food? you burned the whole city

[mighty kraken]

very high ranks is top 10

[chrome sonnet]

i aint changing that

[near marlin]

doubt

rapi aint wind

[muted turret]

no doubt im sure

how is siren going to clear those rockets?

or atleast some of them

[reef zephyr]

top10 will C7 anyway
accounting for 0.01% is questionable as a pinned comment
one copy imo

[grave remnant]

I think she can replace liter in indi team?
does the best indi AI team even use liter?

[reef zephyr]

Liter was already replaced
Crown Rapi Naga Asuka Alice

[dim dove]

anyone know if reload magazine can overflow?

[reef zephyr]

and no, Rapi can benefit from ele against indiv, Siren does not

[brave silo]

i've skipped Bready just for this????

[stuck hemlock]

Skipping for a 1% banner 💀

[visual cedar]

im reading people already calling for buffs... pls stop

I can take you want buffs for an ani unit if the unit is actually someone epic

I dont think LM is even that important

LOL

just grab her if you want or not and next banner will be op for sure

[near marlin]

she doesnt complain lest she speaks

[reef zephyr]

Siren feels like a side character that got unexpectantly popular so ShiftUp made her a pilgrim

[stuck hemlock]

People forget rapipi b1 is almost the same minus some damage

[willow locust]

nah we knew from the start she'd be playable

She's the only NPC in Old Tales who was stored internally with the "playable characters" and not with the "NPCs"

[empty mulch]

No Hansel and Gretel

[stuck hemlock]

Duo

0.5% rate each

[lunar pivot]

triple banner 3rd ani gonna be wild

[stuck hemlock]

Burst 1 of them, if previous burster was the other you get extra buffs

[runic yew]

at this rate it's gonna be 3.5 until Modernia comeback

[echo herald]

Iron next event trust

[stuck hemlock]

Iron paying for its sins

[drowsy dagger]

I hope they innovate on hng and make it 2 nikkes in 1 spot kind of a thing

[runic yew]

Eve Iron then it's GG

[echo herald]

I tot u can c7 any iron

[runic yew]

not a niche collab unit

I C7ed Rapi cause she's dual elemental

and ofcourse a Pilgrim level character

[stuck hemlock]

Will sb be duo unit again?

[runic yew]

I dont play SB so I dont know

[autumn granite]

Enemy and target have different meanings in the game, right? What is the target of this skill 2? Will every enemy that enters the battle be given a bubble or just boss enemy?

[runic yew]

I wish only Eve

[drowsy dagger]

iron is so dead I considered reseting rh to just use her as b1 with 1-1-10

[teal rivet]

Most likely every enemies

[echo herald]

How is Iron ded

Bruh

[drowsy dagger]

iron is dead by getting 0 sr's

su is afraid of iron

[spare crescent]

Holy fuck, Siren is the best Old Tales b1 in the entire game

[echo herald]

Why would SR be an indicator of how a code ded or not tho

Iron overall isn't at a bad spot

[runic yew]

tbh Iron was the first strongest elemental for a long time

Then they changed everything

[drowsy dagger]

iron is still strong but requires boss to have a pierceable part+core or something

and they are afraid of that so we are getting none

[runic yew]

Every elemental has their specific gameplay

[echo herald]

Boss mechanic only additional

[drowsy dagger]

idk when we used sw last time

[runic yew]

Iron Fire are about cleave + pierce

[mighty kraken]

man idk i dont mind NOT having a broken unit even if its anniv

it lets me rest

[drowsy dagger]

wait until sbs power creep by mihara

[plush portal]

does good in their niche/correct team is enough for me

[runic yew]

Gluttony has core

[fringe wing]

stun might be very useful in the campaign
Ruptures can't jump nor teleport when getting stunned

[runic yew]

So maybe I can play Miranda SW

SW reseters are in shamble

[humble temple]

fuck you and love you for these

[echo herald]

So it has core?

[fringe wing]

lore wise yes

[plush portal]

[fringe wing]

but we don't know ofc

[drowsy dagger]

there might be hidden core but if there is one it won't be double hit

[plush portal]

the focus fire thing alone is huge really

[drowsy dagger]

they won't make alice double hit to core in fire sr

[stuck hemlock]

Core only accessible if you can stun it

[echo herald]

Alice won't be out of any content

That's for sure

[drowsy dagger]

alice won't be out ofc

but they will not help alice either

[echo herald]

Anything fire is fine tbh

[wheat island]

surely last minute buffs will happen /cope

[minor willow]

Holding my breath for actual siren gameplay numba
Look like shitup gonna release her as another niche, full mg comp this time

[echo herald]

I am happy that Iron didn't get more treatment

So that's a W to SU from me

[drowsy dagger]

I mean less iron is good but this is not less

this is none

best iron unit we got for the last year is a fire mg

[runic yew]

ping me when we get Mihara @mighty kraken

[stuck hemlock]

K gonna be Iron

[fringe wing]

14% damage up, 5% damage taken up, 33% ammo reload, 17% (caster's) ATK up, CDR
it's not niche at all

[mighty kraken]

no, ping ME when mihara

[drowsy dagger]

mihara next week chat

[wheat island]

stunning crucial targets for 3 seconds makes her campaign niche already

plenty of shitty mobs you want on lockdown

[frail maple]

She's the best SMG unit of 2025 so far

[royal gazelle]

How are people ignoring that she deals like 4200% final ATK every full burst without even bursting?

[echo herald]

Naysayers will say skip Siren

[wheat island]

this is core max

personal dmg nikke

not liter lb0

[royal gazelle]

Also, that stun has no mentioned cooldown

[wheat island]

the 'cd' so to say is how long it takes to shoot 50 shots

[drowsy dagger]

you can't apply it again

[royal gazelle]

Doesn't work on bosses of course, but potential perma-stun on annoying elites in campaign

[drowsy dagger]

it works once right

[wheat island]

no once per rapture

[fringe wing]

yeah nore more 3 jumps

[royal gazelle]

Once per rapture?

[drowsy dagger]

when they enter they get bubble

when you pop bubble they get stunned

and no other way to apply bubble once more

[wheat island]

we have to find a re-bubble glitch

[royal gazelle]

Ohhhh, the bubble status

Gotcha

Not nearly as broken then

[wheat island]

and maybe you don't want to pop the bubble

dmg taken gone?

[royal gazelle]

Explosive Bubble remains

[wheat island]

it says under bubble = dmg taken

and stunning them removes it

[royal gazelle]

but applies Exposive Bubble

[drowsy dagger]

still has same damage taken

because its a cont status

[royal gazelle]

Just switches debuff

[wheat island]

i see now

[royal gazelle]

[wheat island]

same to same

[echo herald]

Basically summer helm

But 1 stack

[wheat island]

would have been funny if they increases the number for explosive bubble

but no

[echo herald]

If you want

Keep crying and SU just might

Use the power of democracy

[drowsy dagger]

we will not be heard

[wheat island]

they did this just to force 10/10/10?

[drowsy dagger]

only if jp cries

[wheat island]

it is 14% total

but you have to level 2 skills

s1 and burst

[drowsy dagger]

you have to max s1 either way

cdr scales

[wheat island]

yes so why

why the fuck

[drowsy dagger]

basics for b1

[wheat island]

no it makes no sense

[willow locust]

The split is good for RHB1 teams

[daring haven]

So, has rapi been powercrapt as a B1 already? Xd

[willow locust]

Still get 4% from Siren

[wheat island]

yeah

that's useful hahaha

[daring haven]

Damm

[drowsy dagger]

same cdr as rrp

[echo herald]

I'll use her as B3 anyhow

Better ovr

[royal gazelle]

Not powercreep cuz Siren only works in certain comp types

You won't want her with SBS/Alice, for example

[willow locust]

She might be better than RapiRH in non-Crown teams where the 33% ammo refund is actually useful

[royal gazelle]

She's more like Doro where she needs a comp to actually enable her CDR

[daring haven]

So is more like grave? A situational support?

[royal gazelle]

Grave isn't situational

[willow locust]

The MG just enables the burst gen doesn't it?

And her S2 damage

[echo herald]

I actually enjoy using Grave

[wheat island]

yes s2 dmg

s2 dmg basically her entire thing

[willow locust]

She's still fine in a team that brings its own burst gen, for non-wind raids

I don't think she's hard tied to MG

[royal gazelle]

[chrome sonnet]

anything below 60 fps literally kills siren

[wheat island]

she's not hard tied

but she is optimally tied

[daring haven]

Well, she is worse than crown unless is a pierce team, that's what I mean, siren looks nuts for general use too

[royal gazelle]

Crown is also the best unit in the game

[drowsy dagger]

[daring haven]

Works well in general, better on a certain comp

[echo herald]

Gonna have fun using Siren + SRosanna + SSakura

[royal gazelle]

[echo herald]

[wheat island]

crown + siren is very easy to use yes

but rapi is crazy too even as b3

and mihara maybe?

3 mg + siren then 1 more spot

[drowsy dagger]

why 2 ars tho

[stuck hemlock]

3mg + siren is alrdy 2.5s for 500 shots to activate burst gauge refill

[echo herald]

Just fun using that team

[drowsy dagger]

we assume 1 crown enabler like naga or helmt

[stuck hemlock]

HelmT maybe

[willow locust]

Siren/Grave/Asuka/ReiA/Mod is gonna be my use for her this raid I think

Putting her with Crown feels like a mistake in SR

[royal gazelle]

Crown will be with Alice

probs

[drowsy dagger]

alice can cope in mast ancor

[wheat island]

how fast is she?

[copper tusk]

Soline stonks rising?

[drowsy dagger]

mihara and rrp will get crown+siren

[copper tusk]

[stuck hemlock]

40 shots but consume 20 ammo

[willow locust]

My crown going to RapiRH & AsukaW I think

[royal gazelle]

Did Soline's S1 ever actually get fixed?

[stuck hemlock]

Siren only cares ammo consumption

[wheat island]

i was just thinking about characters that could shoot fast only soline came to mind

[stuck hemlock]

I dunno

[wheat island]

but idk how fast she actually is

[royal gazelle]

At one point, her attack speed buff didn't work

[daring haven]

Do you think I should reset my d wife skills to swap her for siren? I was in need for a B1 to use when I use rapi as B3

[stuck hemlock]

At most she goes from 20 to 21 shots

Cos of frame

[willow locust]

As far as ammo consumption goes, the main question is if AsukaW triggers it when she clears her ammo

Grave too? From infinity to 0??

[spare crescent]

So is mod burst bricked? Since shes like infinite ammo

[daring haven]

And she seems as a dedicated mg support

[wheat island]

if that somehow works why not privaty when she cuts ammo in half

[willow locust]

D Wife still better than any other team 5 CDR

Who are you gonna use instead? Volume? Doro?

[daring haven]

I was thinking to swap her for siren

Or should I leave her like she is and invest from 0 on siren?

[willow locust]

Also possible, although Privaty doesn't explicitly "clear" ammo, like how Liter doesn't refund it, just plays with the cap.

[wheat island]

i think they want 400 bullets fired but it would be crazy if instant deplete mag also counts

[royal gazelle]

Oh, just thought about it

RIP Siren in co-op

30 fps cap

[fringe wing]

and arena

[daring haven]

Is want a second B1 cdr for when I need rapi as a b3

[royal gazelle]

Siren is a good B1 for B3 Rapi

[copper tusk]

[daring haven]

I was using d wife but idk is skills reset her and put those mats ok siren

[wheat island]

guess by working it should work with asuka

or is 'clear' ammo not 'consume'

[muted turret]

maybe need to test it

[wheat island]

clear ammo probably does not count

but yes needs testing

[willow locust]

I think a solid team this raid could be:

Siren/Mari/RapiRH/AsukaW/XLud

Letting Crown go to another team (e.g. Mihara)

[daring haven]

Well, at least I know RAPI isn't cooked just yet

[drowsy dagger]

I wonder if mod consumes ammo

when she bursts

[willow locust]

I don't think 4MG is necessary, especially when it's not wind weak

[wheat island]

it also depends on if it matters

asukaw clears ammo only at the end of her burst once

so 3x per fight

and then it matters if it actually saves 500 bullets shot

and not like 50

[willow locust]

Oh this is why Siren has her focus gimmick lol

You can force your MG to keep firing during QTE

So she doesn't get fucked over by bosses who disappear

Not a random add-on gimmick

Actually has some logic

[wheat island]

oh this

yeah it's nice

[plush portal]

being able to tell your team "shoot that man" whenever you feel like is huge

[wheat island]

does it work outside of burst?

that would be crazy

[plush portal]

yes

[willow locust]

Without it any boss who disappears regularly would see way less ammo consumption

[wheat island]

another point for campaign character

[floral vine]

Is Alice still 100%

[wheat island]

in campaign it is so ass to not have focus fire

[fringe wing]

imo, Siren's personal damage isn't so high
I don't' think you need to stack MG units
she's good with MGs though

[drowsy dagger]

my only problem is you can't do fast charge for the first burst

when mg's start slow af

[wheat island]

the meta rn is already filled with mg

it's np

not a downside

[drowsy dagger]

that kills a good chunk of hc maps

[willow locust]

For team building I think it's better to ignore the MG benefits and just look for teams that need 33% ammo refund

So not Crown or maid duo teams

[royal gazelle]

Nope

She lost her throne this past raid

[floral vine]

[royal gazelle]

Crown's the only 100% unit now

[floral vine]

quitting

[plush portal]

other weapons need better gimmicks

[royal gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-kiss-blowing-a-kiss-suspense-christian-bale-gif-16931550113965916217

[wheat island]

and they dare nerf alice for cn

[floral vine]

69% lol

[wheat island]

her future is bleak

[floral vine]

Last raid was a hell for alice

[drowsy dagger]

what did they do in cn

[willow locust]

Liter isn't 100%???

[royal gazelle]

Liter was not used by 1 person in a single raid

[willow locust]

Lol

[plush portal]

imagine if shotguns had like a 30% higher damage when in optimal range

[royal gazelle]

Oh, 3 people

[wheat island]

siren looks like the permanent to go to campaign b1 character

that's already crazy enough

[daring haven]

Damm

[willow locust]

I think there's a world where Rouge eventually drops out and Siren takes her slot tbh

Cindy would appreciate the Damage taken buff, and the ammo refund to avoid her awkward spin up time

[daring haven]

Why did I 10/10/10 my rapi then? Xd

[royal gazelle]

Doesn't the fact that she doesn't buff ATK make her actually questionable for hard campaign?

[willow locust]

RHB1 too

[wheat island]

no it's not questionable we have atk with red hood

[willow locust]

Siren / RH / Crown / B3 / B3

[royal gazelle]

Ah yeah, RH and Crown provide plenty

[willow locust]

Then just take whatever B3 have elemental advantage at this point for hard pushing

[royal gazelle]

And Siren doesn't actually need to burst to deal her personal damage

So RH can still burst

[willow locust]

Siren is the new best "CDR who doesn't burst" or "slot 5 CDR"

So any RHB1 team wants her

[wheat island]

siren's damage also affects a bunch of enemy raptues

very nice in campaign

[plush portal]

siren stuns too

[drowsy dagger]

"niche"

[dim dove]

only once at the start if I'm reading correctly
because she only stuns when triggering explosive bubble, but doing so removes bubble stat and you can't gain bubble again.
unless explosive bubble counts as "bubble"

[copper tusk]

OH

wait

[willow locust]

Everytime a new enemy appears they get a new bubble

It's once per enemy

[copper tusk]

the bubble should apply to every Rapture that appears right?

[drowsy dagger]

yeah you stun once per rapture

[copper tusk]

that means

those gas chamber stages are a little easier to manage now

since you can stun the farters

[willow locust]

Basically any stage which can't be beaten by a full glass cannon team is easier now

Which is where hard mode has been struggling

[wheat island]

niche for campaign
niche for raids
niche for bossing
perhaps has a niche place in pvp

niche for the entire game

making her nice

[copper tusk]

Can it stun Mirror Container from casting it's shield?

[willow locust]

PvP she's only viable for whales in Champion Arena

Otherwise you just fuck her over with Jackal/Scarlet/Emma

And even then the 30fps means

[drowsy dagger]

niche in campaign, has a perma spot in raids with that cdr

[willow locust]

Probably not viable

[drowsy dagger]

and pvp... smg... 30 fps...

nah

[wheat island]

think she has a place in championships

and tbh

if you don't care about pvp then you don't care you know

[willow locust]

A Privaty stun team might be viable for championship

[wheat island]

siren looks better than privaty

[willow locust]

I mean take both

[wheat island]

siren doesn't take a burst slot away esp not b3

[willow locust]

Commit to the bit

[minor willow]

Dunno how viable this is but could be a pretty fun

Imma try it out once I got a copy

[wheat island]

privaty already doesn't work

nobody uses her in ca

[fringe wing]

Didn't keripo use her?

[wheat island]

no

[willow locust]

Yeah but Siren extends the stun

[copper tusk]

Imma try her in pvp

those Noah teams are the bane of my existence

if she can stun

good

[willow locust]

She won't stun until about 3.5 seconds in

[wheat island]

if you want to stun noah we alr have the answer

soda

don't need siren for this

[acoustic aspen]

or Rapunzel

[willow locust]

Yeah more realistic to just abandon Siren in pvp

As always the 30fps fucks over some Nikke

If it was updated to 60 then a MG team might be viable

[wheat island]

that makes mg feed harder haha

in a way it is a buff to be at 30fps

[royal gazelle]

I remember when Kraken could be stunned

[normal goblet]

Easily a tier 3 strategy out of the gate just cause of the nature of hard cc. The issue is the nature of nikke itself so who knows without testing.

[fringe wing]

yes he did

[wheat island]

yeah he did

his teams are in the pvp channel

did you not see?

[fringe wing]

but you said no

[wheat island]

sarcastically lol

every pvp player knows he uses them

we all watched keripo

[teal rivet]

Priv and soda back did emma back from the graveyard too lmao

[wheat island]

a meta of old characters bringing back older characters

so ppl say siren deals doro dmg

[wheat island]

how much dmg does doro deal?

[willow locust]

Siren gonna be like Grave, DMG only relevant when she has advantage

Curse of the supporter

[inner stream]

chat, is siren must be played together with grave and cindy?

i have grave, but no cindy

[willow locust]

She'll be good with Grave and Eva team

And she might be good with Cindy eventually when Rouge is kicked

[fringe wing]

Siren with Elec team doesn't make sense for me

[willow locust]

Haven't done the math but I think she'll outbeat Rouge for a standard Cindy team

So eventually when other teams have better options

[inner stream]

i have a feeling hansel and gretel will be B3s
add that duo buff, oof

[willow locust]

Take Siren for generic buffs & 33% ammo refund that Cindy will appreciate

[inner stream]

an old tales 1-1-3 team will be op af

[willow locust]

It's worth noting that a common Cindy team uses RHB1

And Siren is the new best CDR for RHB1 Soloraid teams

[wheat island]

this whacky character won't leave the meta anytime soon

[royal gazelle]

Siren won't be able to provide sufficient CDR for Crown comp

[willow locust]

??????

Her CDR is independent of the ammo consumption isn't it

[royal gazelle]

How is that comp firing 400 rounds?

[fringe wing]

cdr after full burst ends

[normal goblet]

Yes it is

[royal gazelle]

Oh wait

I'm dumb

[willow locust]

Isn't the ammo consumption just her burst gen & damage?

[royal gazelle]

[wheat island]

cdr is not restricted

ammo shot = burst gain

or dmg dealt

[royal gazelle]

Yeah, it's the burst gen that's lost

[willow locust]

So Cindy team with either XMaiden or RH is fine

Doesn't need it

[royal gazelle]

but X Maiden does fine with that

[inner stream]

do u think hansel and gretel became burst 3 nikkes?

i can see that in the future

[stuck hemlock]

they gonna "nerf" modernia's trick of skipping her screen

[wheat island]

the gimmick reminds me of crown shooting at targets nikke otherwise wouldn't

a mechanical gameplay problem solved by 1 nikke in their kit

so ultimately

people are disappointed at siren's buffs?

but she still looks very good

[willow locust]

Yeah people are just dumb

[royal gazelle]

This reminds me of another Nikke release...

Lemme grab it...

[willow locust]

They don't recognise the usefulness of burst gen & ammo refund on a B1CDR

Just look at ATK buffs and stop

[stuck hemlock]

most people see DAMAGE numbers only

[runic yew]

these guys really save Mihara for tmr

[willow locust]

I wonder if Mihara will save RosCO lol

[royal gazelle]

i'm honestly amazed how nikke community sometimes overrate some characters and underrate other.
I'm failing to understand in what pink-glassed world Little Mermaid is a must pull when we have literally stronger CDR unit which is Volume (-8.21 cd) and we even have Dorothy for that role. Damage buffs are mid at best and only because damage type is an indirect Mihara buff who is already op. All other dmg buffs are shit af - 5%? don't make me laugh. Burst buffs are weird as well because you realistically need only one of them at any given boss and buff triggers on her burst, not full burst which leads to your nikkes accidentally procing wrong buff (if it activated on full burst instead, you could've prevented that with coordinated aiming).
Conclusion: easy skip, only usable for those who don't have any CDR on account or for niche strat to stack buffs on Mihara, which will crumble the moment your precious single dps character gets a sneeze from high dmg attack.

[normal goblet]

I am confused isn't Dorothy an attacker?

[runic yew]

Mihara is up

@mighty kraken

[mighty kraken]

Where

Send?

[runic yew]

next 4 mins

[reef zephyr]

made me look

[muted turret]

[reef zephyr]

april fools is 21 days ago

mofo

[runic yew]

[mighty kraken]

[muted turret]

[fresh gazelle]

No, she's a support

[royal gazelle]

She was the first DPS supporter

[normal goblet]

Fair been a long ass time had to look again

[royal gazelle]

Shift Up realized the community hated that almost every single Pilgrim was an Attacker but knew that DPS units sell

So they reclassified her to give us less gear strain

We haven't had a Pilgrim Attacker since SBS

[fresh gazelle]

Who said this lmao

Some dude on maincord?

[royal gazelle]

Copypasta about DKW

[stuck hemlock]

Vol and Doro

lmao

[royal gazelle]

Just replace "Little Mermaid" with DKW and "Mihara" with "Red Hood/Alice" and it's done

[zinc crane]

i'm honestly amazed how nikke community sometimes overrate some characters and underrate other.
I'm failing to understand in what pink-glassed world Little Mermaid is a must pull when we have literally stronger CDR unit which is Volume (-8.21 cd) and we even have Dorothy for that role. Damage buffs are mid at best and only because damage type is an indirect Mihara buff who is already op. All other dmg buffs are shit af - 5%? don't make me laugh. Burst buffs are weird as well because you realistically need only one of them at any given boss and buff triggers on her burst, not full burst which leads to your nikkes accidentally procing wrong buff (if it activated on full burst instead, you could've prevented that with coordinated aiming).
Conclusion: easy skip, only usable for those who don't have any CDR on account or for niche strat to stack buffs on Mihara, which will crumble the moment your precious single dps character gets a sneeze from high dmg attack.

[stuck hemlock]

doro fell off faster than volume

[royal gazelle]

But yeah, the numbers might look small, but you have to consider how the numbers actually work

[fresh gazelle]

Oh lmaooo

[royal gazelle]

Having attack damage buff + damage taken debuff in the same kit is already very good

[fresh gazelle]

2 multipliers basically

[mighty kraken]

Hood classic copy pasta is back

[stuck hemlock]

campaign wise it frees up rapipi as B3

[zinc crane]

and having small buffs + bigger personal damage is better in wind pool with limited dps

[fresh gazelle]

Lord knows that stun could be useful for taking out little shits like farters and silencers

[runic yew]

So you C7, carry Mat-H

Thanks

[reef zephyr]

where is shinonono
4mins cap

[runic yew]