Still cracking
#[Bready] New Unit Megathread
sharp stag
sharp stag
Works as well as Ludmilla lol
opal heron
thats actually crazy
stray bramble
hmm no it's difficult for me to test
foggy wolf
i'll give it a test
misses every shot like usual at least alice is 0% patched for aiming
reef mirage
Do you know this bready stat?
sharp stag
Do you know this bready stat?
Assuming its 4atk4ele
Not perfect because the same as Helm
That guy is a water hypercarry
elfin lark
what are skill priorities/investment looking like 
reef mirage
Then she looks similar to xlud damage around the same clear time (assuming that bready is 4at4edc7 etc)
elfin lark
what are skill priorities/investment looking like <:dorocreep:131017065563894992...
nvm perfect timing haha
lusty whale
I'm reading a "Rather use Quency" vibe but might be wrong
warm cairn
That’s where I’m at
dusty granite
I'm reading a "Rather use Quency" vibe but might be wrong
it's exactly like that
warm cairn
Hell, yeah, time for the stash to grow
sharp stag
Then she looks similar to xlud damage around the same clear time (assuming that ...
You can imagine pre fix Bready
How cracked she'd be
warm cairn
Yeah, why did we get 1800 gems for a misleading description of a skill?
Was she actually going to be good?
So she got a pre-patched Nerf?
dusty granite
basically the lesson is: only pull Bready if you care about Water Raids and have the maids, otherwise skip and save for 2.5 anniversary and wishlist later
probably she'll be added to wishlist on the 2.5 anniversary maintenace
warm cairn
Good shit. Thanks. I don’t have the maids, I don’t care about water raids, and she’s not an interesting character to me
2.5 anniversary year 
foggy wolf
do you care about any raids at all if you don't have maids
amber sparrow
She has sauce
Distributed damage definitely seems like the way to build her right now
reef mirage
How cracked she'd be
Ye i heard the nerf is significant. But this is still cracked. Imagine sr boss that doesnt have consistent core for xlud qeq, bready would clap both in personal dps
sharp stag
Ye i heard the nerf is significant. But this is still cracked. Imagine sr boss t...
I can hear Kira mining OL lines atm
verbal sage
Ye i heard the nerf is significant. But this is still cracked. Imagine sr boss t...
Pretty much every SR boss these days
And esp if upcoming SR boss is black snake
half tulip
nikke.gg IS dotgg btw, same api
danieru has the data, wait a bit longer and it'll be here
@slender sedge https://dotgg.gg/nikke/advise bready + crust are in
https://nikke.gg/advise/ works now too, bready + crust
urban tide
Skip?
cinder leaf
Her pre nerf numbers were wild
Now
lol
Invest in your Quency
Skip bread if you care about saving for 2.5 anni
dusty mountain
yes
split void
1:1
thin meadow
Top 200 in global without her is absolutely possible
split void
Just be careful not to mention these in Maincord or ull get banned
Even enikk app gets banned there too
thin meadow
Even enikk app gets banned there too
L Maincord
dusty granite
Hows bread?
only useful on water raids and if you have the maids (Mast + Anchor)
otherwise just skip for 2.5 anniversary
opal heron
Hows bread?
Good enough to beat out QeQ in damage
nova moat
Barely better than helm and qeq even with maids buff
Smh
Her dot damage was too high but they didnt have to nerf her dist lol
opal heron
Barely better than helm and qeq even with maids buff
Isn't QeQ peak also in maids
nova moat
crown naga prob better 
reef mirage
Easy pull if water carrier of union, simple 4 rocks test and already got another option or better yet 2 full fledged teams. Its cheaper to be elemental specialist(s) now.
versed raven
Unless i see normal rolls im not buying it
stray bramble
the one thing I do appreciate about the duo, is that their duo name is extremely easy and intuitive
breadcrust
somber warren
lilac veldt
Tasty Bread 🤤
split anvil
Do we care about charge speed on Bready?
chat
obtuse raven
dont even
ornate mauve
i'm gonna cook
yeah
i'm burning the kitchen down
i don't know how many buffs you get from scope lock or if it's just lvl 400 + 10/10/10 but bready has no gear and lud has overloads
it's not good overloads but she has them
this is actually better than my real harvester team 
i cooked but at what cost
grand kiln
yeah
ironically the stun isnt even the worst part about mast
losing those drunken stacks
is the real pain
ornate mauve
it's stinky but with the pig's massive self buffs and mast not bursting it's probably not too horrible?
you miss out on 30% distributed dmg and reload speed for one burst and then 15% for one burst and then 0% before she gets eepy and it resets
so like 15% on average after 3 bursts but slightly less over the whole fight since the first 3 bursts are the same
and you get to use crown
magic oriole
Bready dot build seems to be cheap investment build, like a support providing extra dmg
ornate mauve
a support for whom?
you're spending your b2 on a dot buffer so your main dps better be dot too
ivory crest
What is Bready’s worth atm?
reef mirage
As much as an Ein
reef mirage
Man a loaf of bread cost $3 while this SU wagyu c7 grade bread would cost 200 times than that
But i dropped the game so i just yap non sense now
fierce wharf
110 pulls for this fat pig
stray bramble
yeah ssakura is dogshit, what else is new
ornate mauve
I'll just drop this scope locked run against Iron-Code
Ssakura rolling in her grave
MLB pig cost 70k gems 
And all I got out of it was a lit lobby
Surely anchor spook soon
Might actually roll on the pilgrim banner out of copium
sinful rune
Scored the 🍞 x10 pulls in
sharp stag
If your main objective is not SR
Just skip lol
All I know is i got another solid Water DPS
sharp stag
bready c7 when
When u
sinful rune
Saw this
man Shitup does really holding the 🍞 back
Keepin' the real powercreep exclusively to Pilgrims'
sharp stag
You know they had to extend a lot to test Bready to not make her outselling Pilgrims
Would be diabolical
daring token
3 skill resets would have been better over what compensation we received for her nerfs
waxen forum
<:pausecatito:1207856890608881715>
When u
No
fierce wharf
daring token
gib her some glizzy gobbler action
waxen forum
She's so fat that when she farts, whole humanity hear a thunder strike
ornate mauve
*Me watching you guys waste time on Bready*
Bready is hot and time spent gooning to her is never wasted
cinder leaf
110 pulls for this fat pig
Lmao why go that deep in for this mid unit
ornate mauve
Siren will probably obliterate her and be the meta water DPS but at least bready makes harvester comfy
fierce wharf
Lmao why go that deep in for this mid unit
i like fat pig so yeah
2.4k golden ticket for anni so i'm not that pressured
fierce wharf
why are you skipping seamaids though? no gems ?
ornate mauve
I don't need another sbs buffer
cinder leaf
why are you skipping seamaids though? no gems ?
ye
was saving gems for Eva
Which worked out well cuz they fucking wrecked me
ornate mauve
I would have pulled them if I knew they're made for sex pig
SBS is already stacked enough
Now I have to play burstless maid mast
fierce wharf
well seamaids can work with a lot of stuff
my gems stash getting low
like ~200 pulls left
cinder leaf
Had great luck on all banners till now that you managed 200 left after all this lol
tall herald
man. i don't want to throw gems into this fatty. if only she were slimmer
azure torrent
if only she were thicker
foggy wolf
man. i don't want to throw gems into this fatty. if only she were slimmer
my man
i feel the same
fat fuck nikke
ornate mauve
Make her fatter
foggy wolf
prime yew
ornate mauve
Because she's not fat enough
prime yew
On Asian standard, she is fat
fierce wharf
fat but still attractive
ornate mauve
I should leave a 1 star review for the nerf
prime yew
fat but still attractive
#1354290405453070497 message
Pig is cute.
silk roost
we had nikkes in every fetish possible why just complain when its fat smh
obtuse raven
we had nikkes in every fetish possible why just complain when its fat smh
some people like to be in the loud minority, gets them more attention
urban tide
Fat is Fat
foggy wolf
too much fat is disgusting idk why you guys play nikke but i don't boot up the game to puke
split void
some people like to be in the loud minority, gets them more attention
Its the kuala lumpur guy
Nice music taste btw
Try TUYU
obtuse raven
Try TUYU
oh, I do listen to TUYU! All their song titles in english are really long tho
got anymore recs?
sharp stag
man. i don't want to throw gems into this fatty. if only she were slimmer
She's not that fat lol
fierce wharf
raider will pull her regardless anyway
naive atlas
She's not that fat lol
She doesn't have to buy tickets for two seats on planes, sure 
Could be worse, but doesn't make her hwp either 
buoyant plover
This nikke straight up gives me 0 appeal. The first i havent been tempted to pull lmfao. All in siren
buoyant plover
i gotta pull to mlb her :C
naive atlas
Good luck to you 
buoyant plover
naive atlas
you might get 800 mileage before you get MLB from pulling 
keen marten
Bready’s gun looks wrong in her shooting pose, and it bothers me a lot.
Why does it go from a long rifle to a distorted bull pup.
ornate mauve
imagine the spillage on the inevitable summer bready
Aaaaaa I'm cooming
obtuse raven
imagine the spillage on the inevitable summer bready
insane.
maiden ingot
How bready is meta?
lavish grail
imagine the spillage on the inevitable summer bready
ornate mauve
Also the previous best water DPS struggles to beat sbs on water content
fresh quest
funny you mention that
if you look at chapter 36 hard mode clears you'll see SBS used kekw~6
ornate mauve
lavish grail
bikini bready will feed families
reef mirage
Bready can mimic sbs on the c36 boss now, but im wondering if you could clear snake the same sync you already cleared the bull with bready now.
fallow monolith
if you heavily invest on bready sure
but given 2.5 is near, nuh uh
reef mirage
Yea not worth it in terms of of mat
buoyant nimbus
4/4/4 and done
sharp stag
Bready can mimic sbs on the c36 boss now, but im wondering if you could clear sn...
What's the current lowest Snek clear?
521?
obtuse raven
if you heavily invest on bready sure
but given 2.5 is near, nuh uh
they have a history of releasing supports on half anni, kek
doro, crown
fresh quest
What's the current lowest Snek clear?
sync kinda doesn't matter but iirc lowest power clear is like 1.3m on NA
reef mirage
What's the current lowest Snek clear?
I only watch for the cp, sync doesnt matter its whale territory to clear lowest sync
fresh quest
or maybe it was lower I don't remember 
reef mirage
Only korean cook go that low
half tulip
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1354290405453070497/1354930044845428877...
so she's on AsukaW lvl?
reef mirage
Umm if u ask me they are the same block doing the same thing then yea they sbs asukaw bready look same 😂 i just dont know how much difference that make sbs stand above and by how much
fierce wharf
with that lv of dps idk why so many people said skip
reef mirage
Siren out and u forget bread immediately
lilac veldt
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1354290405453070497/1354930044845428877...
Is that with 10-10-10 S. Rosanna?
lilac veldt
we're not sure if Siren gonna be a dps unit or not
Would be nice if she's a support
So we can just spark and move on
split void
Is that with 10-10-10 S. Rosanna?
No, that looks wrong
lilac veldt
split void
The continuous one
Looks wrong
I think they removed supporters there
Raw damage as if 0 supports
And mode is activated
lilac veldt
oh
split void
Currently continuous is weak
The only way to save it is strong buffer
Check Raon's new calc
idle magnet
One got 10% nerf the other got sliced in half
nova moat
?
idle magnet
nova moat
split void
Definitely not ambiguous
naive atlas
It's not ambiguous 
grand kiln
y is it still cope ratio 
nova moat
I just didnt remove the word cope 
grand kiln
hasnt she been used every solo raid with alice since she existed even off element
split void
Seems clear to me
Ambiguous means can be misunderstood
It being clear to you doesnt mean its not ambiguous to everyone
It has to be reworded like 3s charge time per rotation
split void
Yes thats well known
split void
1 cycle is actually 1 B1 B2 B3
foggy wolf
hasnt she been used every solo raid with alice since she existed even off elemen...
yes that sbs/alice team shreds everything for a long time now
only beaten by on-element teams
naive atlas
Ambiguous means can be misunderstood
No, ambiguous means having more than one meaning
split void
No, ambiguous means having more than one meaning
BECAUSE IT HAS MORE THAN ONE MEANING IT CAN BE MISUNDERSTOOD
naive atlas
"one of each B3 + 6s burst regen time" doesn't have a second meaning
split void
It does have
naive atlas
You'd have to add extra wording for that 
naive atlas
BECAUSE IT HAS MORE THAN ONE MEANING IT CAN BE MISUNDERSTOOD
Something can be misunderstood even if it has one meaning 
grand kiln
listen we play nikke here u gotta add room for misunderstanding like this
split void
Im experienced in this and have been forced to handle people nitpicking Prydwen
grand kiln
following in daddy shiftup's footsteps
naive atlas
listen we play nikke here u gotta add room for misunderstanding like this
Don't forget sustained damage and continuous damage being the same
split void
Every word is studied
From word selection to the littlest fucking thing
Even 1 fucking word is enough for prydwen drama
naive atlas
I mean, if people can't read literally, that's a skill issue on their part
It's when wording is no longer literal that it becomes ambiguous
grand kiln
Don't forget sustained damage and continuous damage being the same
recovers vs replenishes 
split void
I mean, if people can't read literally, that's a skill issue on their part
This world is engineered to favor the receiver not the sender.
deep tartan
https://youtu.be/IrTVbu6e-tw?si=_5AofEx86Y9Yl-by
Heres the vid you can nitpick it here then
split void
When you write a guide, a tool, or a chart
You will have to view from the perspective of the receiver
Not the sender
split void
So saying "ah shit they have reading skill issue" is just a bandage
naive atlas
Nah. If someone doesn't like how I write a guide, they can find another
grand kiln
https://youtu.be/IrTVbu6e-tw?si=_5AofEx86Y9Yl-by
Heres the vid you can nitpick ...
i cant read or understand
split void
Nah. If someone doesn't like how I write a guide, they can find another <:kek:7...
Well we are not the same then
But thats what Snake would say
grand kiln
naive atlas
No such thing as a guide that works for everyone
split void
No such thing as a guide that works for everyone
But you can make a guide that helps as many people as possible
Haters gonna hate
But there are legit feeedback
Just simply ignoring it and saying if u dont like it then find somewhere else is a bit rash
naive atlas
True, but terminology that isn't official is always going to be subject to confusion. Which is why Nikke being inconsistent in official terms is insanely annoying
(only in EN)
reef mirage
Nice thanks
calm flicker
i'm gonna cook
Level 400 bready?
split void
Truly im not telling u to appease the haters. U dont because u cant.
naive atlas
I'm not even just talking about haters
split void
True, but terminology that isn't official is always going to be subject to confu...
Iirc the official is one cycle
I forgot where it is mentioned
Or was it rotation
Can someone check Crown's description
grand kiln
can we change "of atk as damage" to "of final atk" yet
naive atlas
Can someone check Crown's description
■ Activates at the start of Full Burst. Affects all allies who previously cast their Burst Skills.
split void
■ Activates at the start of Full Burst. Affects all allies who previously cast t...
Press the yellow
deep tartan
Theres burst skill damage too now
grand kiln
Theres burst skill damage too now
yes but thats just damage type
similar to how we have "distributed dmg" or "pierce damage"
ect
split void
can we change "of atk as damage" to "of final atk" yet <:sadge:95606373011698896...
Sustained damage is bad wording
Cus sustained also means receive
Lmao
Ambiguous as fuck
naive atlas
Although with proper English grammar, it's easy to distinguish the two 
deep tartan
They make xguillo diff with continous tho but only her alone lmao
split void
Although with proper English grammar, it's easy to distinguish the two <:delugig...
In a text yes
split void
As a buff name no
naive atlas
Doesn't make sense to think "damaged received" if you're dealing damage
You don't deal damage received
but for sustained damage buffs, there's no room for clarity 
Then it really can look like damage received up
I'll always only use JP skill kits for a reason 
grand kiln
I'll always only use JP skill kits for a reason <a:sadsimp:801903399008075846>
but jp sin doesnt stun
split void
Why do u like Delutaya emotes so much
naive atlas
They're high quality emotes 
I'm also an admin of the fanserver, so I'm accustomed to using them
naive atlas
but jp sin doesnt stun <:sadge:956063730116988960>
Who? 
split void
Bro is a language ambassador with this level of linguistics knowledge
naive atlas
Hm, since I can get a comfy S7 with Bread at current investment, might leave her alone unless I need to improve my SR score 
I'd really rather get my seamaids properly invested
With DPS units being so disposable, keeping supports properly invested honestly feels like the better order
wheat radish
with that lv of dps idk why so many people said skip
It’s a new vs old dps comparison chart. You must be looking at the old bars, this is not the dps she can do anymore. Nerfed. Look for (New) bars
split void
Yeah but restricted to water weak
wheat radish
You mean W Asuka’s dmg in that chart is vs neutral?
split void
No what I mean is
ELE DPS >>> NON ELE DPS thats not insane
1 unit can get 110%+ ELE from 4 ELE + 10% + cube
That doubles their damage
So no, decent is not enough
It has to be great/broken
The prenerf Breedy had good sustained potential
vernal gyro
Should have made her "pilgrim" dps.. especially as it looks like water gets fked again and Siren will be iron at this rate
wheat radish
I meant, I’m trying to understand the charts… is this her neutral damage, with no ele % involved?
split void
Siren is 100% water
wheat radish
Which means it’ll soar way higher than BS Scarlet vs Water-weak?
split void
I meant, I’m trying to understand the charts… is this her neutral damage, with n...
Yes
split void
Which means it’ll soar way higher than BS Scarlet vs Water-weak?
Obviously
wheat radish
Alright, I understand now then
vernal gyro
I really hope so.. even if iron hasnt had a raid in ages.. it has Rapi and RH who do big damage.. water needs a top pilgrim
wheat radish
This makes Bready the best water raid dps unless enemy has a core for EQ Quency and X Ludmilla, then?
split void
I really hope so.. even if iron hasnt had a raid in ages.. it has Rapi and RH wh...
Iron is right after half anniv
April - Water
May - Water
June - Iron
July - likely iron again
reef mirage
Xlud Helmtr QQ bready will soar above SBS
In what area
vernal gyro
Oh nice to know.. def not rolling on bready now
deep tartan
This makes Bready the best water raid dps unless enemy has a core for EQ Quency ...
Here the version with core
wheat radish
Very nice
naive atlas
lol the machine translation
split void
Here the version with core
This feels wrong esp with Alice just above her but its 36 so
vernal gyro
is it summer sakura on these lists?
idle magnet
Here the version with core
Agains neutral i suppose?
foggy wolf
i didn't know red hood was that pathetic
naive atlas
Actually, Sakura is second to last
foggy wolf
i thought rh could beat alice
deep tartan
lol the machine translation
You should watch the vid and translate the whole vid for us lmao
grand kiln
sacred agate
why is dot bread still so high even after the nerf?
magic oriole
to make you understand how broken she was
gut it by 3x amount and still "very strong"
split void
why is dot bread still so high even after the nerf?
Its not that high
magic oriole
pre nerf she's braindead
split void
Thats damage with supporrts excluded
Lol
We know Distributed Damage damage scales better
Cus its not in the same group as atk dmg
In reality
Distri dmg scales better
ornate mauve
sustained dps units doko
split void
Sust dmg is in atk dmg group
sacred agate
dot bready is one dedicated buffer away from viable
grand kiln
split void
more like cuz our sustained dmg buffer struggles
But in order to beat Maids
The sust buffer needs to be 1.1-1.6× their potential
Around there
foggy wolf
is this sbs and scarlet or what
ornate mauve
dot bready is one dedicated buffer away from viable <:NovelThink:104595441369455...
good thing siren is sustained dmg so they'll have to make a good buffer for her
wheat radish
Bready is flexible, so that’s nice. Sustained killer, or distributed killer
split void
Actually at 1.1 shud already beat Maids
naive atlas
is this sbs and scarlet or what
SBS
wheat radish
A lot of stages will feel easier with distributed aoe
split void
1.6 to enter neutral meta region
naive atlas
Scarlet is also Crimson in Japanese
wheat radish
For whales 
foggy wolf
the one thing this chart did for me was show how unfair it was to give asukaw this much dmg it is a collab new players missed out
split void
The easy way to put it
Yeah
In KR its red lotus
The og name is red lotus
Not Scarlet
But English wants a more natural name
So they picked Scarlet
And Red Lotus: Black Shadow doesnt roll off well
naive atlas
wheat radish
is this sbs and scarlet or what
Multiple names, same person 
Localizers making decisions
naive atlas
Although JP also changed the name in the case of Scarlet
Cuz Guren isn't her KR name
Same characters, but using the JP reading of them
Like how EN decided to make Blanc and Noir masculine so French localization fixed it
wheat radish
The og name is red lotus
Apparently, and this is from a thread around launch, her name more fully translated is something like Red Lotus of Rebirth or Red Lotus of Samsara, since the name is meant to refer to something from a story Koreans are familiar with
naive atlas
split void
Like how EN decided to make Blanc and Noir masculine so French localization fixe...
Blanc and Noir are masculine?
split void
Ok I like Blanc and Noir more
naive atlas
For feminine forms
split void
Its 100% intended
As it rolls off the tongue easily
Altho it would probably make the native speakers mad
I can see that being the case with that country
naive atlas
But yeah, so that's why it's Crimson Lotus in MTL. Hongryeon/Guren (KR/JP) hanja/kanji mean that
EN took the first hanja/kanji 紅 and chose "Scarlet" from its meaning of "red"
since Scarlet is a name
wheat radish
Found a wiki entry too for Scarlet’s name origin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janghwa_Hongryeon_jeon
Wow, that’s a tragic story. Evil stepmother
fierce wharf
evil stepmom have a whole different meaning in the age of goon
lavish grail
I can see that being the case with that country
split void
<:CatSideEye:1262841696170020944>
Are u from there
sinful rune
Got a gut feeling shitup will make ooowwwuuaaahh Siren iron due to her weapon being "metallic fluid"
They could do her a dual element unit just like rapipi, Iron but strong damage against fire element, effectively a water unit without explicitly being water
ornate mauve
Got a gut feeling shitup will make ~~**ooowwwuuaaahh**~~ **Siren** iron due to h...
i hope so because my iron team is already done and i can keep this cringe ass fish benched forever
half tulip
ornate mauve
what are we supposed to do, laugh at srosanna?
half tulip
it's bready thread, talk about bready or go somewhere else this server isn't limited to 1 channel 
ornate mauve
we're talking about bready by seething at other units shift up is pushing instead of this pig
she's to heavy to push
sinful rune
bit of a let down shitup gutted 🍞 big time
Buff to Skill 1 + Burst nowhere close to compensate the damage pre nerf based on the chart
reef mirage
Yea either that or this discord got nuked
half tulip
talk about her emotions or something else that's ingame
reef mirage
ornate mauve
i'm gonna think about bready's fat ass
deep tartan
Kkk hope theres good dot buffer for bread soon 
ornate mauve
i hope she turns out to be strong
right now she's just a comfy filler for harvester because sustain dmg isn't real
sullen canopy
Niche elemental unit
deep tartan
Tbh I think her with xguillo got potential
Both dot and gui can buff bread
sacred agate
waiting for shitup to hit us with the switcheroo and actually make crust busted
deep tartan
Even if they want to make another dps just hoping its not tetra again man Im already low on spare
reef mirage
Crust busted Siren busted all water 🚿 we switch from electric to water now, water not done 
sinful rune
🫓 DOT buff to enable 🍞 sound more likely than not 
opal heron
Here the version with core
@magic oriole when you're free can you just make a rank of top 10 with the units you have in the sheet
Thanks
Do core and no core if possible
Tomorrow ofc
ornate mauve
Crown + maid mast is actually good for harvester but I don't have stage 3 helm yet so I can't use her as the second DPS
reef mirage
Rapi maid mast+anchor bready + helmT/Siren auto harvester s7 
pallid rivet
In case people want a reference, this was barely able to stage 7 Harvester on full auto aside from the QTEs
Bready is at LB0 with 1/1/1/0 OLs with 70.40% ele, 23.62% atk, 52.50% max ammo, and 2.28% charge speed, skills at 4/6/6
Helm(phase 3) is at C7 with 5/5/5/5 OLs with 44.31% ele, 33.32% atk, 81.26% max ammo, and 4.26% charge speed, skills at 10/9/9
reef mirage
Why do u need to auto harvester
See the guy above did it 
when there is no new content we create content (clear early, auto clear, clear w 4 …) 🗿
Oh “aside from qte”
idle magnet
In case people want a reference, this was barely able to stage 7 Harvester on fu...
Can u tell me why mmast over xlud?
U wont burst with her anyway
pallid rivet
because you need Mast to give Bready her distributed damage buff
idle magnet
Oh right 
reef mirage
And on auto xlud wont aim at the core anyway, so her dps drops alot
pallid rivet
if Bready doesn't get the buff, she's useless
idle magnet
wow fatty is garbo
full auto ASIDE FROM QTEs
my water units has bad OL
helm
xlud
sbs has 28 atk% and 52% ammo
wtf i think full auto is impossible
team with anchor full stacked hp
dies to qte
reef mirage
wtf i think full auto is impossible
This is right they are tricky u know, all the qte deals massive damage while the kraken one deals just enough for anchor shield to absorb
reef mirage
Yep but i think the way to go around it is we can ditch out lots of dps up front before qte, hence we might need siren and this is purely body dps playground, bready fit into this kind of group
If only they still keep her skill pre adjustment, it might be just enough
This frontal dps actually can be used in kraken and Crown with pure dps
But when i tried it, my wind dps was too weak
idle magnet
Yea could also work, on kraken you can also do that but dmg dealers must deal even more than when u just survive it
reef mirage
Rapi-crown-sbs-asukaw-helmT, this frontal lineup before qte
idle magnet
Sbs and wasuka needs to be near perfect
And those two are in top 5 best dpsers
Water is bottom of barrel
idle magnet
Rapi-crown-sbs-asukaw-helmT, this frontal lineup before qte
That also the go to stage 9 clearing comp
reef mirage
That also the go to stage 9 clearing comp
Yeah
wheat radish
if Bready doesn't get the buff, she's useless
This is basically what's keeping us from making Bready the next Water Queen...
The comp restrictions are another way of saying, "Anti-Crown" for Bready
strange dune
what is actually the best sustain damage team for Bready without T.Viper ?
reef mirage
this looks good as of today, next week idk
wheat radish
this looks good as of today, next week idk
Would be neat if Siren was a B1 non-CDR support that made Distributed or Sustained dmg go wild
Throw the meta into disarray
waxen forum
Would be neat if Siren was a B1 non-CDR support that made Distributed or Sustain...
no
Siren B2 CDR support
🌕
sinful rune
A Crown competitor???
Unacceptable
reef mirage
This iron guy has been coping since forever
waxen forum
This iron guy has been coping since forever <:kekw:1009394634692247632>
Iron and Fire
Soon Electric
sinful rune
With crust still in the cooking pot, still a bit soon to say how 🍞's full extent of damage out will actually be
Well at least shitup didn't drop into her kit some sort of deliberating debuff making her dysfunctional just like maid mast
reef mirage
I think the distributed meta yada is still cooking until siren, we might see some bait like mana or that weird electric girl around to drain us before the siren nail in the coffin
sacred agate
btw not a lot of peeps mentioned this but
her bond results in soul-sucking segs
balls emptied, dryer than sahara
sinful rune
Worth every pulls in 10
rare citrus
Chat, I'm Maid Mast-less, how cooked AM I
I know Helm gonna fill the condition already
ornate mauve
I know Helm gonna fill the condition already
how?
split void
Chat, I'm Maid Mast-less, how cooked AM I
Cooked in raid
ornate mauve
wait why are you playing solo manchor?
you need like 30 seconds to make bready actually start doing damage
woeful skiff
<@308926283482398720> whatever you guys did worked
maybe they could update it instead of trying to manipulate search results
magic oriole
<@381720888539742230> when you're free can you just make a rank of top 10 with t...
core no core sure, but what's the team?
I love how you all keep demanding vaguely
opal heron
core no core sure, but what's the team?
Maids for bready and QeQ
Crown HelmT for others 
vernal gyro
I have maids but really don't want to waste skill books/gear for bready... I just want to make top 3% every raid
sinful rune
Not gonna invest in 🍞 🍞🍞 either given the kneecapping nerf, saving up for the upcoming 0.5/full anniversary char release that's gonna bound to powercreeping her
naive atlas
you need like 30 seconds to make bready actually start doing damage
Everyone deals damage when Crown exists
sinful rune
shitup intentionally or not made a really poor job at keeping overpower char behind the veil way before the actual release date. I skipped the whole Eva Collab and Trina, gonna skip crust too 'cuz I can fish her out later. Should have just left Bready's 🍞 kit alone or at least slight nerf, not kicking her down like this. They basically sabotaging themselves at this point
spiral quail
Iron and Fire
A fellow iron enjoyer🤝
austere jasper
shitup intentionally or not made a really poor job at keeping overpower char beh...
Uh huh, Bready is still a water dps and still good.
ornate mauve
i want her to be pilgrim tier because she's hot
and she's hotter than most pilgrims so she should do more damage
waxen forum
A fellow iron enjoyer🤝
sinful rune
Uh huh, Bready is still a water dps and still *good*.
Yep still good, just not as good as "pre-patch nerf"?
My point is shitup's handling of keeping unreleased pilgrim char making peeps skipping banners, thus economically damaging themselves, it doesn't help that they also "pre-nerfing" Bready before her release.
naive atlas
Yep still good, just not as good as "pre-patch nerf"?
My point is shitup's handl...
I mean, pulling on Pilgrim banners is a poor personal choice unless you're a whale, so skipping banners before Pilgrim banners instead of building mileage while pulling on those banners is actually gimping one's own account 
Skipping characters to waste resources on less characters
dusty granite
I mean, pulling on Pilgrim banners is a poor personal choice unless you're a wha...
i have 40 pulls atm since when i pulled Trina in 20 pulls
i have exactly 200 mileage for Siren but i have a feeling that we might get another Pilgrim banner (probably a rerun) alongside Siren
i'll skip Bready and Crust
i'm also worried about limited Summer 2025 NIKKE
i'll grab one copy of S-Rosanna and S-Sakura for collection purposes (i have better wind DPS like SBS, Asuka and Rei)
naive atlas
Yeah, summer is the bigger concern for pull resources, really
dusty granite
probably we'll get 2 new limited summer NIKKE this year, right?
naive atlas
We always get at least two limiteds per seasonal event, ye
dusty granite
maybe Elegg and another one this year
ornate mauve
give elegg and bready
pig summer
i wonder if bready is a test run for overspec anis 
they're gonna make her even fatter
wheat radish
i wonder if bready is a test run for overspec anis <:lmaocry:1027863762868391968...
Mana's report detail that Over-Spec Anis was so dangerous, they had to divide her up and contain the unstable elements.
We now get flat Anis.
austere jasper
evil Anis: I love water and fruits
cerulean finch
Has anyone put M.mast and S rosanna together with Bready in a team
What will happen
cerulean finch
u just gotta read this and know
ornate mauve
u just gotta read this and know
if her designed her with priority on sustained damage then maybe they'll make her good with a new support soon
vernal gyro
Watch them bring out crust in a couple weeks with reworked numbers and make bready OP
sinful rune
Brings her back a bit of DOT or a decent bump on distribution dmg should do her wonder
magic oriole
the best solution is ignoring her previous version. Whatever goes live, it exists. Anything else doesn't
suddenly no more stress
magic oriole
do you know how stress I was when I imagined the test version of Trina
triple amount of burst gen, 10s immune to Scarlet
grand kiln
do you know how stress I was when I imagined the test version of Trina
no i was playing mhwilds
idle magnet
do you know how stress I was when I imagined the test version of Trina
wait u are in shiftups testing group?
idle magnet
magic oriole
don't know why people keep stressing about the nerf when it never hits live
grand kiln
if he was he would deney it and if he wasnt he would deney it
so u would never know
sinful rune
magic oriole
like you could imagine a broken version of Scarlet that never hits live
what else
she's still shit without Trina
idle magnet
don't know why people keep stressing about the nerf when it never hits live
werent u keeping the big peepee silent?
idle magnet
u didnt talked about her big dmg
magic oriole
ah
idle magnet
then after change u started talking
grand kiln
i mean u just do 1 multiplication
450 * 400% * 10s
not big pp math, ez pp math really
magic oriole
you just need to know which tier does this number belong to
idle magnet
yea but it was uncertain if it was a multipler tho?
magic oriole
it's certain, cuz we have Sakura and Rosanna
grand kiln
it was uncertain because people didnt want to believe it
grand kiln
saying that was uncertain is equal to saying this may have made asuka gun do -35% final atk per bullet
cuz u can just subtract 5%-40%
pallid rivet
don't know why people keep stressing about the nerf when it never hits live
because they can't read
ornate mauve
the kit came out like a few hours before the maintenance
usually they release it earlier
magic oriole
pallid rivet
ok and?
last minute changes can happen every now and then with anything, there's no point in crying about a nerf if it never hit live
ornate mauve
given the reaction she got when she got announced you'd think they'd check if they gave her the right numbers especially if they delayed them as long as possible
ornate mauve
they made a unit with a unique design, lots of people got excited about it because it's not a generic pretty lady then they showed a kit that can actually compete with other meta dps
then they extended the maintenance and then they extended it again and went haha whoops jk actually she does half the damage we said
it's pretty understandable people would get mad
now she's just okay for a filler water unit but water units are all trash and there's basically a confirmed water dps pilgrim coming which is obviously going to be op so all the hype died instantly
elegg at least didn't pretend to be good
pallid rivet
idk man, I was still pretty hyped
and gooner moment aside, her damage was still good enough to justify pulling for solo raid, so I'm not even mad they adjusted it, not every unit is supposed to destroy the previous meta for their niche/element
ornate mauve
people want the units they like to be strong
also raising units is expensive as fuck
if she's a little bit stronger than qeq xlud thelm on some bosses then that's nice and all but you probably have some of those invested
resets are nice and all and there will probably be one at half anni but you still have to roll gear
siren looks awful and i am not looking forward to having to run her on every water boss because all the other water dps barely beat sbs/rapi/cindy on water content
pallid rivet
idk what you're expecting tbh, they can make the units somewhat balanced, make them an easy skip, or make them power creep every other water unit before it, they made her strong to the point where rolling if you care about SR or just pull for characters you like is justified, and if you don't like her, skipping won't be the end of the world
if you don't like Siren, that's fine, don't expect every single character to be perfectly designed for you, a lot of people are excited for her
robust garden
In terms of numbers, this is Bready / QeQ comparison with fairly equal investments
In shooting range vs water weak boss
reef mirage
In terms of numbers, this is Bready / QeQ comparison with fairly equal investmen...
Can you run Crown-Xlud-Quency-HelmT-Volume too
Assume the maid skills are also near maxed here
robust garden
I can tomorrow. This is a photo from earlier today. In bedge atm. And yes, maids are near maxed.
reef mirage
Nice no rush gn 
reef mirage
I cant draw what i wanted to see from this. I want to see the difference in quency damage when switch from crown setting to that maid in suspicion that Quency belongs to the crown and there will be a different b3 w Bready instead
vernal gyro
@ornate mauve yeah design is mid and she can't even really speak.. I hope they drop two nikke for half anni
Not excited for her outside of her being a powerful water dps (hopefully)
naive atlas
If she's even water 
dusty granite
<@243314352675880960> yeah design is mid and she can't even really speak.. I hop...
Siren with maybe Crown banner rerun alongside her naked skin
it's possible to have Crown rerun?
idle magnet
it's possible to have Crown rerun?
yes, it is pretty sure she will get rerun
her naked skin prob not tho
vital horizon
yes, it is pretty sure she will get rerun
Why is it pretty sure crown getting a rerun?
Did they announce anything about anniv banner rerun?
deep tartan
They should just give us doro buff like cn to justify her rerun
ornate mauve
did they buff her cdr or just change the trigger?
because 1.5s cdr every 50 shots is kinda ass
marsh dock
grand kiln
how is that ass 
idle magnet
Did they announce anything about anniv banner rerun?
they started that anni rerun thing since like end last year or something
so i think they prob will also rerun on half anni, if it is only for anni then rip
grand kiln
thats 4.16ish seconds to unload 50, + 1s reload = ~5s per cdr
and it goes up to 2s cdr iirc?
so 6s cdr every cycle
= calling dwife lvl 7 cdr ass
stray bramble
they started that anni rerun thing since like end last year or something
? There wasn't rh rerun
The only pilgrims that have gotten rerun are NY's mod and bscar
idle magnet
The only pilgrims that have gotten rerun are NY's mod and bscar
ooh so rerun only for ny and the rest dont expect it
stray bramble
Yeah
wheat radish
Oh don't worry
They will very likely rerun Crown for a return to Crown's Kingdom
The event and story must be about the Kingdom
Then we have a good chance of seeing the banner rerun
If it's not, and it's something else entirely, kiss Crown goodbye for now
grand kiln
atm i expect no ani/half ani reruns
and new years/limited i expect prev year only after last year's xmas/summer
dusty granite
and new years/limited i expect prev year only after last year's xmas/summer <:sa...
so Red Rapi rerun on next new year?
south tulip
so Red Rapi rerun on next new year?
Yeah
Precedent for NY has been New + Rerun of previous NY unit
grand kiln
so Red Rapi rerun on next new year?
thats what i expect yes
expectations from historical data would be
xmas = guillo xmaiden + new units
summer = ssakura srosanna + new units
ny = rapi rerun
for this year
redhood wasnt rerun
wym
SBS was previous year new years
sbs ran with mod who was year before
robust garden
Can you run Crown-Xlud-Quency-HelmT-Volume too
Assume the maid skills are also n...
So I guess to answer your question @reef mirage , quency only does slightly less damage with maids than with crown if she bursts first with mast
and bready doesn't lose much / any damage by bursting second with anchor
in crown team, quency bursted first
reef mirage
Yea i see the gap now 
robust garden
btw did those forwarded messages work or are they private? 
reef mirage
Oh ye they work wonder i got wat i need without seeing the source
reef mirage
its so odd seeing bready maintain same damage with either maid
and so odd seeing quency 1s of bonus burst nuke gap her up so much (she prolly crit here and there entire run too )
robust garden
I think it's just that she benefits more from mast's attack buffs than bready does, because bready has so much built into her kit already
Sky pointed this out in his video and it seems true when I replicate it
reef mirage
oh interesting didnt watch sky this time
robust garden
And the maids distributed damage buffs happen off burst so it doesn't matter for bready
rare citrus
Her dmg got bloated from aoe
rare citrus
Helm T2 treasure
ornate mauve
oh ok
rare citrus
So no x80 burst spike
ornate mauve
she gts all her damage from t3
ornate mauve
soon you can play water 
ornate mauve
well at least you get a comfy harvester team
who cares about borders 
do you even need to look at mobs with bready?
or does she just kill everything already
rare citrus
She and RRH kill everything already
ornate mauve
finally
enjoyable gameplay
my damage is too ass to break head in a reasonable amount of time so i don't need qeq there anyway
rare citrus
I broke head in like 1 min
ornate mauve
i saw people break it in like 10s
how the fuck
you can't even whel on this that much
rare citrus
XLud 
rare citrus
Quency dmg is also from RoF too
ornate mauve
i need mast to trigger bready and helm to trigger crown
and allow me to not spend 10 seconds off burst
thelm burst can't damage the head right?
rare citrus
Idk
main nebula
Hey, can we discuss here the leaked crush kit?
I wanted to make some question about bready that involve that, but I don't wanna screw up
reef mirage
Nope dont discuss leek there are bunch of 🐀 here it smells like sewer
split void
And the maids distributed damage buffs happen off burst so it doesn't matter for...
This is worded badly. It's because of that:
1736% distributed damage.
And because of that:
2nd Burst Skill does not get ATK up yet.
Also Mast's ATK/stacks are more important for QQ because of her "Burst Damage".
And we know that units with "Burst Damage" should always go first ideally because their damage is mostly within their rotation (not 2 rotations).
It's like Cindy vs SAnis. Even if they dealt the same damage over 3 minutes (imaginary), you use Cindy's Burst first.
In other words, QQ damage is contained within her Burst Skill and rotation, whereas Bready's a bit constant and spread across 2 rotations.
Now, if you can do 14 FB and everyone gets 10s each, this last prompt does not matter. However, the question remains as to whether QQ's damage is mostly within the first 4s of Burst Skill or the whole Burst Skill counts.
It takes up to 4 seconds to register all QQ's burst damage too.
And this creates around 200-400m of damage difference like 2 UR ago, sync 461 ish, with non-maxed QQ in terms of skill/OL.
So that "1 second left" for QQ's Burst hurts her damage a lot.
I would expect around ~7.6M realistically.
Interesting fact about Cindy's rotation (14 FB) is that she must Full Burst first (1st FB) and last (14th FB not 13th) for the reason that her Burst damage is only contained within the first 4s of Burst Skill, therefore that last ~6s of Full Burst doesn't matter for her, but SAnis/XMidden wants full 10s, so you want to burst with them first at 12th/13th.
But I don't think this applies to QQ because the first 4s, while there is a strong spike, it's not as extreme as Cindy's where the last 6s is shit.
robust garden
This is worded badly. It's because of that:
The maids distributed damage buffs occur regardless of which maid bursts. QeQ (instrinsic 109% atk buff and 57% attack damage buff) benefits more from Mast's attack damage and attack buffs than Bready (intrinsic 140% atk buff, 120% attack damage buff) because of dilution. QeQ also has an intrinsic distributed damage buff (43%) whilst Bready has none. And yes bursting with QeQ first gives her an extra nuke at the end which is where a lot of her damage comes from.
split void
The maids distributed damage buffs occur regardless of which maid bursts. QeQ (i...
No, its not their distri, its the atk buff aligning with QQ's distri burst
split void
In other words, QQ damage is contained within her Burst Skill and rotation, wher...
^
Otherwise you can argue the same with Rapipi
Oh ye there is dilution on Bready's burst part
Thanks added that to cons before posting
robust garden
No, its not their distri, its the atk buff aligning with QQ's distri burst
This was actually the point I was making.
(Or trying to 😄 )
ornate mauve
Wow!
b1 rapi isn't my best water dps anymore
it's so beautiful 🥹
i don't have to aim anymore 🥹
we uh
don't do damage
but at least it's comfy
azure torrent
how to make bready fatter
ornate mauve
how to make bready fatter
roll def on overloads
ornate mauve
Your Bready is still deal less dmg then my RRH for some wierd reason
gee i dunno
she also has 7/7/7 and no cube
this was just a comfy test
I don't want to go hard on her until they reveal siren
If she can also spam distributed DMG to make harvester comfy I might use her instead
Though this team should be able to hit lvl 7 once I give bready and helm real overloads
Bready has zero bonus damage and helm has one ele roll
split void
True
ornate mauve
So getting like +80% damage on them from having a cube and at least some half decent ele DMG should easily get me the 800m I need
Plus some skills and maybe dolls
idle magnet
gee i dunno
might as well just run rrh/crown/helm/sbs/xlud, coz no ele lines
idle magnet
full auto ASIDE FROM QTEs
in practice range cindy does more than my helm tho
vernal gyro
Annoying thing about helm on harvester is her burst hits mobs if ur full auto.. but that's my team too except mast for xlud.. it makes lvl 7 easy enoughd
ornate mauve
might as well just run rrh/crown/helm/sbs/xlud, coz no ele lines
depression
that's not very fair because bready and helm are naked
also it's not safe because scarlet can't oneshot mobs if there's too many balls at the same time so they can attack sometimes
as seen in the picture
sbs is fucking dead
