[Bready] New Unit Megathread

[stray bramble]

it just cooked up a new unique kit

[timid herald]

so I thought xguillo was like xmaiden

[somber warren]

bready sabotaging the servers cos she got nerfed hugely

[dusty granite]

is this kit better compared to the original?

[stray bramble]

yes

to both bready and that chatgpt srosa cook

[naive atlas]

Nope. S Sakura, Viper, X Guillo, and Bready have 持続ダメージ, while X Maiden performs 連続攻撃

[hoary heron]

[split void]

ChatGPT keeps referencing Nikke.gg smh

[timid herald]

damn eng description
so JP use the right wording
thanks

[stray bramble]

usually top result

[split void]

Sad

[stray bramble]

you guys not having nikke in the name prob hurts search engine results

[split void]

The website name?

[stray bramble]

yeah

[split void]

Sad

Eh I checked

Not really

Some have Prydwen higher

Probably chatgpt just prefers nikke.gg

[maiden ingot]

BREADY BUFF

[split void]

No

Thats an overstatement

[stray bramble]

pryd is higher if I search exactly what pryd has in article title

[split void]

I mean what else r u gonna search

At most is Trina Guide Nikke

Or Trina Review Nikke

[rotund elbow]

for 16 hours maint we demand bready buff

[split void]

Oh for the units I mean

[tired rapids]

no idea why they didn't just say repeatedly or consecutively
in what world does XMaiden attacks continueously when her nuke is frontloaded

[half tulip]

i can fix that

[half tulip]

time to add investment somewhere in the header

[split void]

Do you think Interns are paid enough? Apathy

[fierce wharf]

interns? paid ?

nice joke

[sacred agate]

are you fucking kidding me with this maint
I'm going to miss my gems, my books and my ROCKS

[tired rapids]

SEO diff

[half tulip]

oh yea we have a weird issue where our new guides are not being pushed on google

[split void]

So google prefers shorter names

[tired rapids]

I'm biased, so no

[stray bramble]

nikke.gg seems to be ahead for every char I've searched

[split void]

Yeah for chars they have shorter names

Google seems to prefer short than long but also keyword existence

[stray bramble]

does win for pvp tho

[split void]

And also the first few words in the page

[stray bramble]

shame that both guides are kinda outdated

[naive atlas]

Her numbers just got changed

so the conclusion is in flux atm

[split void]

So SEO is just

[naive atlas]

Sustained damage got shot in the foot

[split void]

• Short, concise
• Target as many keywords
• Do it on title and description/first few words or sentence

[rotund elbow]

seems not really

[naive atlas]

That much has been agreed on

[split void]

Nikke.gg hits 3 keywords

[tired rapids]

dot.gg SEO diffing Prydwen so hard rn

[split void]

Adding Guide to Prydwen will make it more interesting

[naive atlas]

Having "Nikke" in the domain helps

[split void]

Nah domain doesnt help much

[naive atlas]

Typing Prydwen alone is a pain

[split void]

That is true

Yeah

Dotgg is better

Nikke.gg is shit

They're probably doing it for backlinks

[stray bramble]

I just bookmark the advise page

[split void]

Nikke.gg has the worst load time

[naive atlas]

I like the ability to see skill scaling on nikke.gg

[somber warren]

the foot got amputated

[grand kiln]

convert to blabla

[naive atlas]

True, Blabla is actually quite good

[grand kiln]

definately not sponsored

[split void]

That one has been suggested to Antillar

But

Too resource heavy

Prydwen covers a lot of games

[naive atlas]

[split void]

😦

[naive atlas]

Being able to see the scaling is extremely helpful for making skill mat investment choices

[timid herald]

blabla need to show skill cd and treasure skills

[split void]

100%

[stray bramble]

aside from that, I also use nikke.gg for exact skill book costs, and for cube info, they got a chart

[naive atlas]

I use a spreadsheet for those

[split void]

Prydwen also has that

But Snake doesnt want UX improvements

[ornate mauve]

wtf did they do to my pig

[split void]

So he hides it in the middle of one random cube page

[waxen forum]

[split void]

Go find it

[waxen forum]

Hey that's rude

[ornate mauve]

those buffs don't look like they're worth cutting ditributed damage in half

[waxen forum]

[stray bramble]

pryd top result for harmony cube nikke is just this (nikke.gg still top result)

[ornate mauve]

oh yeah and sustained damage is dead rosanna in the bin

[split void]

Do pool your feedback Ill let Antillar know

[stray bramble]

that doesn't help, I wanna know their exact stats

[split void]

Otherwise we wont be making conscious changes

[stray bramble]

talking about this image

[deep tartan]

Yea so we can stop the cope now

[split void]

Wrong page

[ornate mauve]

unnerf my pig shit up

[stray bramble]

that's the first prydwen result tho

[split void]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/harmony-cubes-data/

There

Told u

Shit UX

But Antillar and Snake dont want to improve it

[stray bramble]

just take a pic of the spreadsheet like nikke.gg

[split void]

Its worse for resource

Website rss

[stray bramble]

[split void]

Ill let Antillar know

Or u can and probably should

[stray bramble]

or at least compact the data

[split void]

Just join prydwen server and make a suggestion thread cus they wont listen to me 😦

[stray bramble]

remake the spreadsheet chart on the website, compact everything etc

[split void]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[nova moat]

Ok i admit it

[split void]

To them

[nova moat]

Kise was right

I kneel

[naive atlas]

just took a numbers change

[nova moat]

[split void]

I got inside intel

[grand kiln]

he saw the future

[split void]

[waxen forum]

Go to sleep @nova moat

[grand kiln]

was working off changed kit before we even knew it was changed

[nova moat]

https://tenor.com/view/i-kneel-kneel-kneeling-avgn-angry-videogame-nerd-gif-25509746

[nova moat]

True

[ornate mauve]

shift up actually eosing the game

accidentally make popular unit
accidentally make her good
fuck it all up

[sacred agate]

alice is supposed to be the golden ratio
if she's less then bready is actually skipable even for water raids?

[split void]

Right for the wrong reasons. Happens too many times. Intuition too strong. The world changes to favor my intuition.

[naive atlas]

16 hour maintenance and create a last minute fire over new unit while maintenance still going

[raven dawn]

Best design 👍

[opal heron]

: 😎

[split void]

Nah cus her design is legit good now

[raven dawn]

😭

[split void]

Shut up and take the negative feedback not the praises only

[ornate mauve]

i can't believe shift up didn't expect this after elegg

what are they doing

[somber warren]

April's fool, i hope

[opal heron]

Pay me 5000$ per month and I will rework everything

[ornate mauve]

this is worse than red hood incident

[split void]

I only trust Gatrix's damage result subtracted by 5-10% and compare that to Raon, then take one that I feel more realistic.

[ornate mauve]

we have to scream at shit up until they buff her

[naive atlas]

Not even close to RH

RH at least had a lore-based reason for complaining

[split void]

Gatrix loves inflating damage.

[opal heron]

Why don't you do it yourself

[split void]

It skews a lot of data.

[opal heron]

[ornate mauve]

i have a better reason

my dick likes her

[wheat radish]

So what’re good OLs for Bready after the new kit?

[tired rapids]

gatrix using 12 black lines for calcs, lowkey unhinged

[somber warren]

RH at least didn't get nerfed after her numbers were released

[naive atlas]

Mine doesn't

[split void]

I use my brain and intuition, which is correct 80-90% of the time. Why should I do sheets

[raven dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapper-yapping-what-huh-gif-17267607410251793922

[naive atlas]

Technically Bready got buffed before her real numbers were released

[tired rapids]

4x ELE 4x ATK
some ammo, some chrg spd

[naive atlas]

And yes, Red Hood did get nerfed

[split void]

You like l-?

[naive atlas]

I like fit

[wheat radish]

I’m guessing she can get away with 4/12, just wants Ele Dmg%. Ride on her massive self buffing.

[split void]

Describe fit

[naive atlas]

Able to run a mile in less than 15 minutes and able to do at least 50 push-ups/sit-ups

[split void]

But red hood can do that

[naive atlas]

I like Red Hood's design

[tired rapids]

they're nikke, that should be easy

[split void]

[naive atlas]

It's Bready's that I dislike

[split void]

You just said u didnt

[opal heron]

Are y'all still arguing about mid

[split void]

No im arguing about how useless you are

[dusty granite]

for me her design is mid
SU just created her for Siren bait basically
kinda like how Elegg was Crown's bait

[split void]

He was talking about RH tho

[ornate mauve]

KILL shift up

[naive atlas]

No

[tired rapids]

the only certain thing about Bready is the plap plap plap noises will be louder

I rest my case

[split void]

I only like Bready because she is a pillow

[sacred agate]

I would only forgive shitup if they give her backshot pantsu

[grand kiln]

i would just roll 4 ele and call it a day personally

[split void]

People like Bready for smacking potential

[ornate mauve]

i am sending the evilest vibrations at shift up

[split void]

Smh

[grand kiln]

imagine having rocks to spend increasing bready

[ornate mauve]

40 hour maintenance upon ye

[split void]

WHAT THE F-

[grand kiln]

couldnt be me

[tired rapids]

get gluten get gluten get gluten

[maiden ingot]

BREADY sss tier?

[split void]

S

[raven dawn]

Yes

[spark iris]

Rem will be useful surely

[vagrant bone]

dont worry rem will get that RL dps that will make her relevant any second now

[raven dawn]

Don't listen to them

[split void]

Trust me

[fierce wharf]

this chat slowly losing it from the maint

[tired rapids]

yep^

[split void]

Your cute prydwen writer uwu

[tired rapids]

goated artist btw

I love yuri

[wheat radish]

+500% atk

• Unless a blue haired character is in the team

[split void]

[somber warren]

yeah midhood cos she wasn't top tier. but she wasn't nerfed after numbers were shown

[naive atlas]

She was

Playtest video numbers were higher

[sacred agate]

surely our schoolshooter will be that b3 rl dps
when she gets overspec

[naive atlas]

People realized RH's burst damage got nerfed from the video

[split void]

So the maintenance was to nerf Bready

[naive atlas]

No

[split void]

Not for water weak raid

[naive atlas]

Read tweet

Bready's posted numbers didn't reflect the actual numbers in the game

[tired rapids]

should still 3% without Bready, hopefully

[naive atlas]

They revised the image

[split void]

You think they wouldnt lie?

[naive atlas]

More like

[split void]

So púere

[naive atlas]

I can believe they'd copy the wrong numbers

[split void]

I wouldnt

[stray bramble]

for the cs debuff tho?

I doubt

[split void]

Not SU

I wouldnt

[naive atlas]

And I expect champion arena to be broken even after maint ends

[stray bramble]

obviously

[split void]

SU has the worst QC in the gacha world history

[thin meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[naive atlas]

We knew that from Day 1. First banner unit had a mistranslated kit

[wheat radish]

Best case scenario is the guy posting the kit mistakenly used old numbers and they’d already changed. Like he had them, but was 1 week old and 5 days ago they already changed it because of balancing reasons.

[tired rapids]

SU QC is just testing range
how else would Cinderella happen

[split void]

More like they didnt ACCIDENTALLY copy the wrong number

[naive atlas]

Remember when Helm's burst was AoE?

[split void]

More like they FUCKED UP

[wheat radish]

Worst case scenario is the guy posting the kit had up to date numbers and they’re just doing PR spins to manage us.

[somber warren]

i know but that was during demo, was referring to the full skill reveal

[naive atlas]

Yeah, they properly released the skill numbers, at least

[somber warren]

this time was they had to do a last min nerf

[tired rapids]

FuckedUp

[wheat radish]

In the end doesn’t matter does it.

[vagrant bone]

its not? lmao i still tought it was because i read her kit ages ago

[split void]

FuckedUp the creator behind Nikke

[somber warren]

wdym we are not the QC?

[naive atlas]

No, it targets highest ATK single unit

[ornate mauve]

they accidentally copied the sustained damage from sirens kit

[split void]

We are the beta testers

[naive atlas]

Imagine AoE 8000% ATK treasure burst SSSS unit

[somber warren]

we skipped alpha and went straight to beta

[split void]

Nah the alpha is their own QC in shooting range

[somber warren]

with their balancing history

[split void]

[somber warren]

i dunno, small indie company cannot afford QC on power level

[split void]

SU is a small company btw

Check their employee number

Funny

[naive atlas]

if they played their own game, power level balance wouldn't be that hard

[somber warren]

i last heard its 400+?

[ornate mauve]

yes

[split void]

TO DISTRACT PEOPLE'S ATTENTION DUH

ITS A BUSINESS MOVE

I WOULD DO THE FUCKING SAME

[sacred agate]

Seoul time btw

[naive atlas]

actually wait, Riot has staff who play LoL and its balance is still terrible

[ornate mauve]

they're too busy working on the 3 gacha skins siren is getting on launch

[split void]

It was posted right BEFORE

[naive atlas]

Usually you'd do that in the opposite direction

[split void]

2h mt extension was posted

[somber warren]

i bet they didn't think the 4x buff to DoT damage during burst

[vagrant bone]

oh hey im exactly 12 hours behind

[somber warren]

cos that's way overtuned

[split void]

Wdym

[timid herald]

first 3 hours was them fixing CA then they think they can still do it they extend 4 more hours thinking they could fix it
meanwhile they found out bready was too strong so they decided to nerf her
then they found the 2 years accumulated combined hidden CA bugs so they extend another 2 hours to remove it from current patch

[sacred agate]

shitup should hire people in this shitcord

[split void]

They know they needed too many extensions

So they distracted people with new kit

So people forget about the mt

And talk about it

Its a business move

[ornate mauve]

the only thing i am going to talk about is my new announcement

and the announcement is

[raven dawn]

Hire me I'll make bready sss

[ornate mauve]

KILL shift up

[split void]

Hire me Ill make sure there are no mistranslations and everything is not ambiguous.

[somber warren]

sir, this is not HI3

[split void]

Whats HI3 got to do with this

[raven dawn]

We need more employees like this

[somber warren]

oh i referring to the KILL SU

[sacred agate]

just fire the current EN team and outsource translation to geepeetee, deepsex, claude or gemini

[raven dawn]

Eh...

[naive atlas]

I don't even need to be hired. Just give me overclock skill mats daily and I'll do their translations

[sacred agate]

the sad thing is that this is true

[split void]

I work best in a non front facing environment who helps make people's experience better

Such as writing guides

If I became a president of ShiftUp, I would employ @opal heron to be my assistant.

[ornate mauve]

i need to find a game that respects pigs

shift up fat shaming bready

[raven dawn]

Try outside

[somber warren]

assuming EN is the majority of the income

[split void]

And I would hire Kigitsune to be my writer, Gatrix to be the math man, Raon to be the drama maker, and Agent Eon for the PR, as well as Retro for the tester. And QC issues will be hmm...

[sacred agate]

EN's not the majority of the income, but it is the majority of the drain

[naive atlas]

~~but raonmiru's math is more usable ~~

[ornate mauve]

i blame tencent

[somber warren]

players are the QC

[split void]

I need pure raw math thats wrong

And I want Raon to show his math

Becoming drama

[split void]

Ok ull be the head of QC

[timid herald]

and a f2p intern with no pay for the real f2p experience feedback

[split void]

[raven dawn]

Not a bad idea

[somber warren]

[spiral quail]

so, bready got reworked

[somber warren]

and everytime you log in you are forced to see their names across the screen on your home page

[ornate mauve]

more like tossed in the bin

[somber warren]

moldy bread

[spiral quail]

Good ig(?)

[split void]

• President: Kisenix
• Assistant: Snake
• Writer: Kigitsune
• Devs: Texas
• Math: Gatrix & Raon
• PR: Agent Eon
• Tester: Retro, Kosmiu, AlexAI, Juratus
• QC: Exkuroi
• Courier/Logistics: LD

[raven dawn]

Hmmmm......

[somber warren]

ok half moldy

the other half still edible

[split void]

[spiral quail]

I'm just a viewer

[ornate mauve]

does she even beat sbs on water weak if you don't have 80% ele dmg?

[split void]

Thats why ure the tester

[raven dawn]

Who's gonna be making bready sss?

[spiral quail]

oh, yeah

[split void]

We make new company called

StepUp

[ornate mauve]

add ball jiggle to your new game

[raven dawn]

😲

[outer rampart]

Sitdown

[hoary heron]

i wonder what type of bread bready is

[split void]

Toast

[outer rampart]

Definitely leavened

[spiral quail]

shiftup that stepped up

[split void]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-frontline-gfl-girls-frontline-2-vepley-vepley-girls-frontline-gif-16888427785013471290

[outer rampart]

Like look at how much the dough rises

And how much it makes me rise

[spiral quail]

you know what else is massive?

[raven dawn]

Inflation?

[spiral quail]

why you did this to me

[raven dawn]

I was just asking T_T

[ornate mauve]

did anyone actually do math with the new numbers or are we just doomposting?

it looks like she does like 80% of what she used to do with the higher attack buffs but that's assuming no other attack buffs which is not real xd

[cinder leaf]

so before nerf she was pilgrim tier and now she’s shit tier?

[deep tartan]

Dist more or less the same but dot are now 1/3 of before nerf

[ornate mauve]

yes but shit tier water dps is still above average water dps

[foggy wolf]

ppl say she was cindy levels pre-nerf

no other alternative than doomposting

rn she is where people thought she was

water weak solo raid character

[deep tartan]

This
Theres no coping for future potential dot dps with good buffer anymore

[foggy wolf]

except this time not future potential haha yeah

[opal heron]

Pull for water raids otherwise skip

[timber basin]

should i bother or just raise xguillo instead

[opal heron]

TLDR
Distributed damage DPS for water weak. Hard stuck with maid mast and anchor. If you do not have maid duo, then skip her. If you have them, only pull if you care about water weak solo raids.

There's really not much to it, from our current understanding:

• She is ~70% of SBS??, which is good enough for water raids.
• She is a distributed damage DPS, but is hard stuck to be used with Maid Mast and Maid Anchor. If players don't have mast and anchor she is an easy skip.
• She is strictly a unit for water raids.
• does not work in PvP.

[spiral quail]

imagine trying water raids

[cinder leaf]

Imagine trying for raids

[spiral quail]

imagine playing nikke

[cinder leaf]

Imagine

[spiral quail]

i

[cinder leaf]

.

[ornate mauve]

at least now we know siren is going to be a sustained dmg dps

[cinder leaf]

How what where

[spiral quail]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-soyjak-wojak-depression-depressed-gif-27376848

[ornate mauve]

or maybe she's a sustained dmg buffer with stupid numbers and that's why bready got nerfed

[cinder leaf]

Who will win? A fat gurl or a bubbly gurl?

[foggy wolf]

tbh crust is alr the sustained dmg buffer

2 of the same character in a row would be weird

[deep tartan]

10 mins theres no another annouce we can cope now its over

[opal heron]

I'm trynna sweat chatgpt into making me an excel sheet to automatically calculate maid mast and maid anchor shit bro

[stray bramble]

gl with that

[foggy wolf]

that's what ai is for

do human laborish tasks

[opal heron]

It's either that or some math Wiz needs to show us the way

[spiral quail]

bet

[foggy wolf]

live

gogo

[deep tartan]

Go test I win

[raven dawn]

Anyone can confirm?

[sacred agate]

IT"S FUCKING UP

[opal heron]

Who gonna invest and check

[raven dawn]

Meeeeee

[opal heron]

Who is our tester

[raven dawn]

Getting all her skills to 7

[spiral quail]

Who is our sacrifice

[raven dawn]

Ill gladly

[naive atlas]

Normally I'd fully invest since she's water, but too adverse to the character to pull day 1

[prime yew]

LOGIN!

WE CAN LOGIN!

[sacred agate]

we got 3k+ apologems bois

[opal heron]

3 rocks too

[deep tartan]

This broken kits give us 11 pull lmao nice

[sacred agate]

it's actually 16 pulls

and 3 rocks

[foggy wolf]

i got 3600

[deep tartan]

The 5 one for maint delay
I mean the bready nerf

[frank cedar]

So they nerfed her vs pre release desc ?

What was the nerf

[split void]

Bready expected dmg from eyeballing (new): 55-75%

Thats from me

A slight buff from my original calc I sent to Raon

Feel free to do tests

[timber basin]

not even t9m box?

[raven dawn]

1st pull

[half tulip]

this is bready chat not #nikke-spice-chat

[foggy wolf]

stop now

best pull

[raven dawn]

Nope I need bready

[foggy wolf]

not so fat in this pose

[raven dawn]

Dang after 5 summons nothing should I stop

[fierce wharf]

wait for the math first

[raven dawn]

Okay 🙁

Still got 17k gems on standby

[sacred agate]

even if she's shit I'm rolling anyway because we lack water dps

[raven dawn]

And the peak design

[sacred agate]

it's like people back then saying that qeq is skippable

[spiral quail]

I forgot to ask, but why prydwen posted milk and Miranda treasure reviews before drake's?

[maiden ingot]

Sad winter guillotine noises

[sacred agate]

don't remind me, I rolled her

[opal heron]

because i did not write drake treasure review in time

[spiral quail]

based&deadlinepilled

[ornate mauve]

look at this fucking pile of pork

[split void]

Only the left one is correct

He decided to do tier list

And there's no deadline

[ornate mauve]

her thighs look kinda thin in the lobby

SHIFT UUUUP

[sacred agate]

she went home in 30, but I somehow still felt like I was robbed raw

[foggy wolf]

you got mileage? wait for anni otherwise

[raven dawn]

Only 100 but definitely

[foggy wolf]

this is not the type of character you pull with 17k and 100 mileage left when anni is so close

[raven dawn]

But....

She's best design.... 🙁

[foggy wolf]

you use her once in soloraid and she's benched

[raven dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-sad-in-the-rain-gif-19983530

Gonna start learning to make games so I can get hired by shift up, buff bready, then quit

[split void]

WHERE ARE THE DAMAGE TESTS

[raven dawn]

YouTube?

[sacred agate]

as always, wait for sky the ogre to do his work

I got my 4 ele and an ammo, lines are done

[opal heron]

sky the goat

sacrficing his skill books and rocks

for our entertainment

bro even did trony

[split void]

I dont trust Sky tbh

The maths always feel like an outlier, even the damage results

I would want to see more reference

[sacred agate]

we don't have other similar sources
unless he learns bushin and a clone gains sentience

[split void]

He is a good reference but I need more

[opal heron]

he doesnt even do a lot of maths

he just shows the fights

wdym

[split void]

Yeah his damage numbers are often off

Likely due to Investment diff

On OL

[maiden ingot]

Bruh

[naive atlas]

Also has used questionable comps for testing at times

[split void]

Like 10 people get 4-6 damage suddenly he get 7

And that skews his result/opinion

Could be console related too and sync

And dupes

And cores

He also got outlier results on Asuka rmb

[sacred agate]

good enough for a test run?

[split void]

Yes

I would say QQ is better tho

[sacred agate]

duh, my bread is 4/4/4

[split void]

[deep tartan]

Maybe change qeq to ludmilla

[uneven drum]

So someone was saying he doesnt think bready would be better than sbs with the maids but like wouldnt u wanna run sbs with crown+healer anyways

[split void]

Better for raid this way more realistic. altho I believe XLud deals more overall max damage.

[opal heron]

test and find out

[opal heron]

do 2 runs, first burst bready and then qeq

and then burst qeq then bready

thx

[maiden ingot]

Winter guillotine

[split void]

XLud is 100% better

Just not Raid realistic

It will not be used in Raid scenarios

[naive atlas]

No

Seamaids provide similar damage results (if not better) for SBS than Crown

meanwhile, Crown is much better for most other DPS units than seamaids

For raids, it's almost always more cost effective to have SBS with maids, seen even last raid, which was wind-weak, as the NGE2 units were in Crown comp and SBS with seamaids

[maiden ingot]

Sigma

[opal heron]

on water weak

otherwise no

she sucks no

w

[grand kiln]

r u pulling

if u pull ill pull

[split void]

Wrong

[grand kiln]

yes we're doing this again

[split void]

The highest dmg being mono water

Doesnt mean

SBS sucks with them

[sacred agate]

heey, pretty gud

look at the cp difference

[split void]

Fucking be smart

[opal heron]

i did it alrdy

i always spend 20 pulls minimum on a banner for weekly pulls

i got it in first 10

[grand kiln]

fk

now i gotta pull

[opal heron]

dw crust is a skip

[deep tartan]

Good enough I guess

[opal heron]

ok now mast for qeq first

[azure torrent]

i only have 30k gems left im not going to make it to half anniversary

[raven dawn]

Green light?

[raven dawn]

That's where $ comes in

[naive atlas]

That's where mileage comes in

[azure torrent]

i lost my job last week

[naive atlas]

[raven dawn]

....

[opal heron]

pls post stats later too thanks

[raven dawn]

Wanna work at insurance with me?

[azure torrent]

do you need a software engineer

[reef mirage]

Qeq is ded now?

[opal heron]

no

never

not yet

at least

[raven dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-meme-stan-twt-suspicious-suspicious-cat-buckspendragon-gif-310094932943837255

[opal heron]

she has a ton of teams to go to

[naive atlas]

Phantom will die far before QeQ does

As will X Guillo for as long as we don't have a water hypercarry

[raven dawn]

What's the best water unit so far?

Who's*

[naive atlas]

Treasure Helm

[raven dawn]

Besides her 😂

[naive atlas]

Overall, X Lud would be the other candidate

[naive atlas]

since she has strong value even in neutral

[sacred agate]

more balanced now

[raw lake]

biggest nerf nerf

xD

[sacred agate]

btw, the team's overall score is basically equal

[raven dawn]

So she's alright?

[sacred agate]

it's another qeq

[maiden ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-red-light-green-light-gif-23191619

[opal heron]

skills and ol for qeq and bready pls

[azure torrent]

whats the point of breadys skirt it doesnt cover anything

[raw lake]

btw i feel like

cooling oil is probably a bad translation

like who name their team cooking oil

[rugged oak]

@sacred agate how invested is ur bready compared to quency

[deep tartan]

Nice first ol lmao

[raw lake]

is it her skirt or her shirt

they are both opened up

[sacred agate]

full ol 4 ele 1 ammo for bready, full ol 3 ele 2 atk 2 ammo for quency

[opal heron]

no

im out

of chests

[sacred agate]

7/10/7 quency lvl 5 purple doll, 4/4/4 bready lvl 0 (lol) purple doll

[azure torrent]

im almost out i gave sakuras ones to bready

after that im out

[deep tartan]

Have one last set left
Fucking useless converter always giving tetra def

[opal heron]

do u have hitrate on quency

[sacred agate]

about 6.88+9

[sullen canopy]

Anybody testing on Harvest AI?

[opal heron]

damn

wtf is qeq

u should build her

she is cracked

[opal heron]

sorry to bombard u with questions but

did u manual play

and was this water weak

[sacred agate]

water weak duh, and manual play only for bursting

[raw lake]

converter is biggest lies, it actually make me have less gear lol

[opal heron]

thanks a lot dude

[stray bramble]

with the hitrate buff, auto should be same hitrate as manual

[opal heron]

so damn she is actually good

[raven dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-heaven-keanu-reeves-constantine-ascending-to-heaven-gif-11437079898090715826

So Spend everything you have

Got ya

[sacred agate]

I'm a good contributor.

[raven dawn]

You did good

[reef mirage]

Qeq or bready

[raven dawn]

You deserve a cookie

[opal heron]

qeq better

[opal heron]

can u share total team damage of both teams

[azure torrent]

bready butter

[opal heron]

S tier bready

[fresh quest]

easy skip qeq has the better bakery

[opal heron]

[raven dawn]

No bready does

[sacred agate]

I told ya they're basically the same

[opal heron]

qeq is fucking hot bro

[sullen canopy]

Test on Harvester pls

[sacred agate]

it's basically a rng tossup on who takes the lead, but only minorly

[sullen canopy]

[opal heron]

damn yeah this is basically perfect testing right here

[split void]

Only a fool would think switching would do anything if they have the same damage end result

[opal heron]

we have every answer we need here

in this thread

[stray bramble]

I knew it

[split void]

And thats Snake

[stray bramble]

another typical water dps

[split void]

The fool

[half tulip]

3min boss - water weak shooting range - SCOPE LOCK - full auto

[stray bramble]

imagine coping that bready gonna change the meta

[sacred agate]

mandate of heaven, restored

[deep tartan]

Test the dot one with rosco guys lmao

[opal heron]

one last question

can u tell total atk and ele

for both

[sullen canopy]

Test against Alice 4.0/s

[opal heron]

[sullen canopy]

[raven dawn]

3 last questions later

[split void]

Its the same exact ELE value

Im guessing with min diff

[opal heron]

we literally have the perfect benchmark, she is doing equal to qeq

[split void]

She isnt doing equal to QQ

She deals more

[naive atlas]

7/10/7 vs 4/4/4 and "basically the same"?

[ornate mauve]

bready is the best water dps

[raven dawn]

Yes

[ornate mauve]

which is not exactly a high bar

[raven dawn]

.... Also yes

[opal heron]

oh yeah

damn

[split void]

Water pilgrim woon

[opal heron]

shes better than qeq

[ornate mauve]

and siren is 1000% water attacker

[opal heron]

but she has 4 ele

so

we might wanna wait and check

[split void]

His QEQ has 4 ele too

[waxen forum]

[split void]

I bet

[naive atlas]

Nah, iron

[stray bramble]

what was the skill invest diff

[deep tartan]

Theres this scope lock one for reference too
Ludmilla kinda bricked if scope lock tho quency too without ammo and hit rate

[waxen forum]

He means test Bready DPS compare to a macro Alice

[dusty mountain]

Can we have a test at 4 4 4 for all us broke/starve for mats 💀 /s

[calm flicker]

chat yall think shes friendly for f2p and beginner?

[opal heron]

ohh can someone check and confirm whether the sustained damage is x4 or not

[stray bramble]

no

just save for siren

[naive atlas]

Scopelock is never useful

[opal heron]

useless for new player, late game f2p should get one copy

[split void]

QoL Updates:

• Split cubes for PvE & PvP
• Doll indicators on NIKKE list
• Auto battle no longer reduces hit rate (old guides need updating)
• Markers for enemies off-screen(?)

[opal heron]

#nikke-spice-chat

go

[naive atlas]

Even lategame F2P are better off skipping water-weak raids

[stray bramble]

new event challenge saves the comp from last event I'm pretty sure

[split void]

Dead chat

[stray bramble]

didn't have to remake my challenge comp

[calm flicker]

Whos that? I thought crown is the best?

[calm flicker]

Aight

[sullen canopy]

[waxen forum]

Surely Siren Iron

No way they give 3 Water units

[sacred agate]

[thin meadow]

Look at the bright side

[waxen forum]

[thin meadow]

We are not getting another water raid for 8 months

[waxen forum]

We got like

Helm treasure

Duo maids

Bready Crust

Jfc 5 Water units

[sullen canopy]

Siren water

Or electric

[plush arch]

Shift up waterboarding us

[opal heron]

the perfect tridecafecta

[waxen forum]

Help officer

[split void]

Auto AI is snappier now wow

[waxen forum]

I'm drowning

[split void]

Damn

So this is why they took 24h

[waxen forum]

[stray bramble]

oh?

[waxen forum]

Ping me if u have CA reward info, thanks @opal heron

[stray bramble]

they don't take forever to move between enemies?

that's huge

[opal heron]

have nothing

[waxen forum]

Just ping when you have

[dusty granite]

so basically she has about the same damage as QEQ?

[stray bramble]

goddamn it

[split void]

Nvm it sucks more

They nerfed AI auto aim

Its now slower with parabolic velocity

[split void]

About the same but slightly higher

[split void]

Its only frames

[dusty granite]

i'll skip her and save for 2.5 anni

[foggy wolf]

qeq is our best pure water dps too?

[split void]

Nope

[opal heron]

she was the best dps last water raid

[split void]

Best overall dps water is HelmTr

Usable everywhere

No drama

[foggy wolf]

ah yes well i don't mean support capabilities

just raw output

[split void]

QQ

But no burst gen

[foggy wolf]

bready being similar to her output is respectable

[opal heron]

can someone fkn check

her burst skill

pls

[split void]

Needs balancing by lets say Bready

[opal heron]

need to know

whether its

[split void]

Bready gives burst gen

[opal heron]

x4.5

or +450

[split void]

Snake u need to fucking tag if ure asking for help

@sacred agate sir can u help

My poor fellow here

Hes suffering and bellowing

[deep tartan]

What the 350% mod is
Is it add or multi

[split void]

Thank you Bubba

Appreciate it

[sacred agate]

why are you asking me, I'm a homeless poor man
I don't even have a BP skin in my name

[split void]

[opal heron]

ok let me login and check

[ivory crest]

So she is not someone to just go head first for at this time?

[naive atlas]

Helm still beats Quency when no core

[opal heron]

idk myself yet maybe i do rapunzel srosanna bready

[split void]

This tho

[naive atlas]

Which is important since we have both Black Snake and Nihilister to haunt our URs

[ivory crest]

Cause used some of my stash for Trina and got her and rn people sounding like she is a must pull unless too horny?

[stray bramble]

she's not a must pull

[naive atlas]

She's a must pull for sweaty raiders

That's it

[foggy wolf]

bready is a must skip for everybody except soloraid top 200

[naive atlas]

Even then, I'm pretty sure I can top 200 without her

[wheat radish]

I rank 70'd, are you telling me to pull more bread?

[split void]

• Any nonbuffing 20s B1
• Sros
• Nonbuffing B2
• Bready
• Nonbuffing B3

Press B1 then B2, use other B3's.
Next rotation, use Bready's Burst.

[wheat radish]

Good luck!

[ivory crest]

How long we got till half anni?

[stray bramble]

month

[split void]

395 days

[dusty granite]

about 1 month

[ivory crest]

So a full month?

[dusty granite]

yes

[stray bramble]

oh nearly forgot to change my wishlist

[naive atlas]

Yup, set Anchor 👀

[deep tartan]

I think just use nonbuffing b1 then sros and bready 2 times one with bready burst one with not
With this the first burst bready cant deal dot right

[main nebula]

So, how good is the bread?

[split void]

Thats what I said

[naive atlas]

Better than Quency, so good vs water-weak

[main nebula]

But is it a must pull or should I skip her?

[split void]

:nod:

[main nebula]

And pray to the standard banner

[naive atlas]

Do you care about water-weak raid rank?

[split void]

Rip no nitro

[spiral quail]

Please do

[split void]

My animated emotes

[main nebula]

Ehh, not too much since I have barely any invested units

[spiral quail]

we aren't getting iron for 11 already, so it's not bad

[naive atlas]

Then she's a skip

[main nebula]

I cannot get past 20% xd

On anything c

[main nebula]

K

[naive atlas]

I guess there's the argument for Harvester, if she's actually good vs Harvester with distr damage

Need testing tho

[main nebula]

I actually struggle with that boss

But having just 20k gems...

[naive atlas]

Guess I'll 4/4/4 her and give Harvester a shot

[main nebula]

Maybe I'll just wait for standard banner

[naive atlas]

That's the best thing to do for most elemental DPS units

[supple compass]

who do i kick out for anchor

[split void]

420000 → 1700000

[naive atlas]

Meta supports and hypercarries are the best units to focus on

[stray bramble]

phantom

[naive atlas]

Phantom for sure

Or M Priv if you don't have built SG comp

[supple compass]

i do

[foggy wolf]

what is that team for?

[naive atlas]

That's wishlist

Not team

Hilariously makes a comp tho

[junior flint]

Don't think I'll be pulling her with only 20 rainbow tickets and 60k gems when the 2.5 Anniversary is just around the corner...

[thin meadow]

Phantom

[ornate mauve]

Time for me to make a copium sustained DMG team

[deep tartan]

Me think its 4.5x dot damage

[split void]

Tell me % value of Skill 2 dot and burst skill aftereffect ↑

@opal heron its additive

88+206

[stray bramble]

[split void]

I think

Wait

He doesnt proc dmg taken

Shoot the same target @slender sedge

Dont auto

Just use the boss stage

Why mob

Its closer to addition unless

[stray bramble]

it's prob multi

but something else is diluting it

[naive atlas]

Wowww, she makes Harvester relaxing

[ornate mauve]

Stop killing bready

[deep tartan]

What the use for the nerf then if its just add

[stray bramble]

if it's addition it should match exactly

[opal heron]

say more dumb shit

[split void]

Hmm

Oh I didnt calc the ssustained dmg buff

[opal heron]

stop testing

[split void]

Still off

[opal heron]

[split void]

Additive then

[naive atlas]

4/4/4, +0 T9Ms, R0 doll

[main nebula]

How much better is bready than quency?

[naive atlas]

Cleared mobs with complete ease and made for comfy run

[split void]

Sir ure not calculating anything

[opal heron]

not by a lot a lot but she is better

[main nebula]

For harvester in specific

[split void]

1700000 vs 420000 is all u need

[opal heron]

i would consider them both equals

[ornate mauve]

Why not wait for burst to fate and compare the ticks after burst?

[main nebula]

Oh, then I guess I'll skip her and pray to the wishlist then

[naive atlas]

Bready allows you to focus on the core 100% of the time

[split void]

Bready's burst buff ends

[naive atlas]

I didn't shoot a single mob

[buoyant nimbus]

I guess i no regret pulling her

[opal heron]

but bready is better in the end

the way she works

[pallid dragon]

Bready might have higher damage output, but QEQ has less expensive tastes in regards to team comps

[opal heron]

she loses less damage

[main nebula]

I have 20k gems and 27 tickets

[ornate mauve]

Ok how do I play breast without maids

[main nebula]

I'm tempted to pull

[pallid dragon]

Bready MUST be paired with units that give either Distributed Damage or Sustained Damage buffs

[opal heron]

oh just save then

[split void]

The fuck is 4.498

[pallid dragon]

Which are pretty rare at the moment

[main nebula]

But I was already baited by the maids

[deep tartan]

Pull crust lmao

[main nebula]

And mana

[pallid dragon]

QEQ just wants Attack and Reload Speed.

[split void]

Thats so fucking useless

[buoyant nimbus]

if you have maids, then you also pull Bready

[main nebula]

But my gems 😢

[ornate mauve]

Maybe I can make sros bready xguilo time real

[main nebula]

I have 400 golden millage but...

[ornate mauve]

Much sustain

[main nebula]

Idk xd

[buoyant nimbus]

It's for next raid though
If you are not focus on raid, skipping i guess it's fine

[main nebula]

I can't never get past 20% anyways

Other than my campaign team everything else is barely invested

[ornate mauve]

If you don't care about solo raid you shouldn't pull anything beyond rapi crown sbs and then Alice or mana

[buoyant nimbus]

skip it is

[split void]

Its multiplicative and additive

At the same time

[main nebula]

I'll skip, but now is gonna hurt me 🥲

[deep tartan]

Now you make less sense
How is it both

[split void]

Because its 1 + 2

[main nebula]

When is the stellar blade Collab anyways?

I'm saving for that

[buoyant nimbus]

It's not limited anyway, you can still get her on wishlist

[main nebula]

Since I can just pity siren

[ornate mauve]

Give me unit selector so I can get maids

[main nebula]

Yeah but, you feel the urge the gamble you know?

[split void]

So 100 (base effect) + 206

[naive atlas]

Two OL +0 (head and arm), 39% ele

[buoyant nimbus]

I know, i do that on early day
But now, i can surpass my urge

[deep tartan]

Fk you that mean thats multi

[stray bramble]

it's just multiplicative

[main nebula]

And is more hard to surprised that urge with my luck xd

Surpress

[stray bramble]

170k x 1.3556 x 1.0602 x 3.067 = 750k

wait no

[naive atlas]

Gonna try S Ros/Helm with Bready/X Guillo for funzies

[stray bramble]

oh fck this imma just test myself, srosa messing things up

[cinder leaf]

Ok meth guys

How is bread performing after she got into a diet?

[buoyant nimbus]

If you can't defeat that urge, then you already lose (you will not get Bready)
Just think the future, what's the purpose pulling for Bready if you not gonna use it anyway. I always think like that. That's why now i can skip Nikke which has no use for me.

[grand kiln]

minor difference probably from defense

[main nebula]

Hey and if I can ask, what's a good team for harvester AI? I don't have crown but I have the other meta water units

[grand kiln]

scopelocked noise noah burst

[cinder leaf]

Just squeeze them with your own hands

Easy

[main nebula]

And so far every time I try mi nikke just start dying randomly even if I take out the mob raptures

[stray bramble]

ok so it is multiplicative

[wheat radish]

That’s good

But they nerfed the base dmg

[cinder leaf]

So she’s useless

[opal heron]

yeah otherwise she would be like ×1.3 of cinderella

[naive atlas]

Passive Crown (only bursted with S Ros)

[opal heron]

math wise sustained > dist

[grand kiln]

but then u gotta use rosanna

[stray bramble]

[half tulip]

1.668.000.000

[stray bramble]

accounting for crusty buffing dist more?

[half tulip]

surprisingly close

[naive atlas]

So comfy

And Bready still trash investment

S7 clear with 4/4/4 and half OLs?

[foggy wolf]

yeah when more like if it ever happens

[naive atlas]

Phase 3 made Helm a real B3

[deep tartan]

Yea when that gonna come out

I come first waiting for it

[azure torrent]

what kind of element is water

[plush arch]

Wet

[half tulip]

AWOOOOOO

[azure torrent]

stick figure

[vernal gyro]

doesnt even jiggle

[timid herald]

all the jiggle goes to her burst animation

[teal rose]

that's a very late awooo

[half tulip]

hey i been busy with other stuff and just scrolled up

[sullen canopy]

cake

[raven dawn]

So how's bready doing peeps?

[stray bramble]

... I'm pretty sure the ai does move cursor faster?

or am I tripping

feels quite a bit faster than before

[timid herald]

I try sync cursor while still toggle on auto aim feels like it snaps a bit easier to the core

[stray bramble]

this feels faster than before

when the mid stage elite dropped at about 01:13, rapipi tracked the falling mob next to it perfectly

Istg they would lag behind normally

[foggy wolf]

easy to test with alice

if she misses every shot on a moving enemy it's not better

[slow lark]

looks faster to me but still lags behind

[foggy wolf]

i'm not sure if it looks any better it could be the weapon type ai never had movement issues really with mg

[thin meadow]

what thread? never heard of that unit other than in the story

[stray bramble]

how much movement? where should I test

is mob stage elite walking enough?

[foggy wolf]

any stage where mobs just spawn in from left to right

then they move in slightly faster

that's when she misses every shot

that's pretty much all stages though except for maybe defense stages where they move slower by default

[stray bramble]

hmm ok, I think I can test this on my campaign stage

[sharp stag]

https://fxtwitter.com/hassaku_nikke/status/1905335920892805239?t=CFjov9NPzQtMaTC4KvaP9w&s=19

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