I see 2x S here so she's SS right?
#[Bready] New Unit Megathread
twilit cedar
foggy wolf
happy to hear that
naive atlas
Only units that arguably could be in the same tier as Crown imo are Rapi RH and Helm Phase 3 
foggy wolf
tier watching
prime yew
Crown exclusive tier is Naked.
split void
Im the Prydwen's team drama maker
You see
Drama is the best way to force someone to rethink their decision
And therefore helps with coming up with the right judgment
Although Ill bite the bullet 50% of the time when Im wrong
Depending on how much believable proof there is
If Raon's calc proves correct tomorrow then Ill take the L
opal heron
No the team was QeQ+phantom
opal heron
Volume/Seamaids/QeQ/Phantom
I think volume for critfish lol
naive atlas
Yeah, Volume and M Mast actually synergize extremely well
split void
Kira wasnt first?
naive atlas
Most people probably lack skill investment in Volume to make it worth tho
Kira wasn't first the last two raids, no?
opal heron
Mana charge buff doesn't exist
opal heron
Kira wasn't first the last two raids, no?
Last 3
foggy wolf
water-wind-water
opal heron
This is the first time ever Kira lost 3 raids in a row, even though he won #1 in NA
naive atlas
Raid meta is getting too reliant on stacked elemental carries
half tulip
Mana charge buff doesn't exist
you know what i mean 
vital horizon
Volume/Seamaids/QeQ/Phantom
still dh phantom yet 
vagrant bone
Yeah, Volume and M Mast actually synergize extremely well
crit buff finally useful 
naive atlas
No one has enough investment mats to dominate all elements anymore
opal heron
you know what i mean <:Madge:872569177267904602>
Bro the charge speed buff doesn't exist when maids are there
It goes to mast or anchor or helm
So it won't work
half tulip
Bro the charge speed buff doesn't exist when maids are there
???
i just tested it the fuck you talking about
naive atlas
And water is the element least worthwhile to invest in overall unless you're trying to take advantage of everyone else skipping it 
half tulip
if all chargers have the same speed it goes to leftmost target
foggy wolf
No one has enough investment mats to dominate all elements anymore
that sounds like shift up is missing out on money but not selling enough of this shit to krakens in the shop
half tulip
like naga heal
deep tartan
Mana for bready he mean not for sbs
opal heron
i just tested it the fuck you talking about
Bro SBS is the lowest charge speed
Mana's charge speed goes to the highest one
half tulip
Bro SBS is the lowest charge speed
Mana's charge speed goes to the highest one
are you cringe, high or drunk
i never talked about SBS
naive atlas
Bro SBS is the lowest charge speed
Mana's charge speed goes to the highest one
He's talking about Bready/Mana...
half tulip
this is all about Bready mf
split void
Both
naive atlas
Mana to offset Bready's CS debuff
opal heron
When running maids
SBS won't get the charge speed buff from mana
half tulip
why do ya'll focus on SBS in Bready thread man
opal heron
why do ya'll focus on SBS in Bready thread man
Ohhhh
half tulip
When running maids
SBS won't get the charge speed buff from mana
certified stupid
opal heron
split void
It seems the latter needs more investments due to higher max but lower avg and min
opal heron
vagrant bone
my water teams are really lacking tbh
i only have qeq and xlud invested
and even then their OL kinda sucks
naive atlas
Water is my strongest (until now, as I want to skip this character so badly 
)
split void
Mana to offset Bready's CS debuff
Offsetting doesnt work that well
Charge speed → damage relationship is exponential
The closer to 0s, the better. The farther, the worse. Since you start at negative 50% (-50%), charge speed becomes less valuable.
However the counterargument to this is that, there is a breakpoint for the DoT.
And that there are likely no better lines than CS after 4 atk, 4 ele, and maybe 1-2 ammo
vagrant bone
what about cubes, resil again?
naive atlas
If used with maids, then crit becomes more valuable, especially if another unit can take care of the CS rolls needed
split void
Resil yes
naive atlas
Any units with seamaids want resilience
split void
Adjutant would be too small to matter lmao
naive atlas
Unless they can't get infinite ammo like Cindy 
vagrant bone
Adjutant would be too small to matter lmao
they gotta buff those cubes i swear
they're so shit
split void
Id just go for the highest level cube
naive atlas
Bready should be normal tho
split void
they gotta buff those cubes i swear
Would be too op for arena probably
You will be forced to level 7 adjutant just for arena
ornate mauve
What else would you want instead of charge speed on overloads tho? You don't need that much ammo and crit/charge damage is kinda stinky
split void
And that there are likely no better lines than CS after 4 atk, 4 ele, and maybe ...
^
Eh but with maids
waxen forum
you prob want crit rate/crit dmg
split void
The crits may be helpful
Outside maids nah dont bother imo
But charge speed is also very useless
Outside reaching breakpoints, 5% charge speed is like -0.05s from 1.85s ish
2.7% faster
And I think I mathed out for the DoT, assuming no reload, the BP shud be around 18%
But then again
You can just manual
prime yew
Siren will be the best Water DPS, skip Breedy, breed Siren instead.
split void
split void
Siren will be the best Water DPS, skip Breedy, breed Siren instead.
No, ull need both
naive atlas
Outside of maids, probably won't use her 
split void
You can say the same thing about Ein not being that good in SR
And that u only need Cinderella
Because she deals more damage
*always get and build the second best dps in an element
naive atlas
That's how Nikke is ultimately going though. Most units are skips if you don't care about solo raid and PvP
Lots of elemental DPS units that show up 20% of the time
split void
That's how Nikke is ultimately going though. Most units are skips if you don't ...
Sustained dmg cube will turn Bready into great in pvp tho
50 secs of lingering taste that activates instantly
foggy wolf
oh fuck is this a pvp nikke too
foggy wolf
water element gets screwed by electric at least and there's plenty of that in pvp
split void
water element gets screwed by electric at least and there's plenty of that in pv...
Water is becoming stronger with Bread
sharp stag
@split void Thestor top 10 SR this time?
foggy wolf
yes that buffs electric too
sharp stag
split void
Casual in pryd
But I might share this account with someone so its not fully dead
sharp stag
Lol
split void
Im not the best arena shef anymore
I was only one of the pioneers who gets interested in pvp
But boy the number of whales makes it less fun
Too whale-biased
Spend money on cores = u win
Literally top 10 in my pvp before I quit all buy core dust from those $20 monthly
Im done
I can only offer virtual help
And only learning from other people's data
No longer mine
Altho I did help a few people successfully both in pve and pvp
@nova moat hmm tbf I forgot maids give crit rate and crit dmg
split void
not self shilling
Yes
🍞
But the discussion is done tho
Nothing else to say
We shall cont tomorrow
idle magnet
only stage 8...
split void
Fair
nova moat
saying crown helm is better than maschor for sbs is pure cope
mostly cuz ppl havent fully invested
split void
saying crown helm is better than maschor for sbs is pure cope
You dont run SBS alone
nova moat
west sphinx
Why does she have to be type III
idle magnet
sbs + wasuka > sbs + alice in kraken
split void
Because shes a dps?
foggy wolf
what did you want b1 dps?
idle magnet
maids no burst gen
split void
Wdym just get 2 ammo on Anchor
naive atlas
Anchor provides some
split void
west sphinx
what did you want b1 dps?
Yeah actually
nova moat
nova moat
Wasting so much of my time
foggy wolf
only rapi is b1 dps
and doro too? pilgrim privilege
split void
Thats like saying Tia Naga has no burst gen
Oh wait Naga is still better than Mast tho
split void
<:LiterSip:1317756287831900220>
idle magnet
Addicted to this blue stuff
nova moat
No i was just doing sbs damage
split void
nova moat
You dont run SBS alone
5b vs 5.2b run with much less skill upgrade
sharp stag
You had to use almost 2x of mats
split void
But good point
sharp stag
nova moat
In term of investment cuz you're saying ppl clearing more with crown helm
split void
In term of investment cuz you're saying ppl clearing more with crown helm
I think its dependent on Alice strength too
sharp stag
naive atlas
Against no core, Alice is useless even if strong 
sharp stag
Though I don't undermine their effectiveness
split void
nova moat
There's no weak sbs
nova moat
Thats on you
nova moat
My simulation is throwing all max skill level at it anyways
split void
I dont care about wind
My weakest is Wind and Iron
I always advise to focus on 3 elements max if they're not whale
If theyre whale idc
So ive seen a share of people with better damage with Crown HelmTr and thats because not everyone has goated SBS
opal heron
I thought you quit so do you care about anything 
split void
I thought you quit so do you care about anything <:BlancStare:112178330392253240...
Read dm
half tulip
Wasting so much of my time
can you run Bready with Mana in your sheet? 
wanna see difference to Bready with HelmT
half tulip
unfor
split void
Wasted time for Kise sorry
Oiiiii
half tulip
Wasted time for Kise sorry
just ignore 
there's more important stuff to test
sharp stag
Can he beat hypercarriers now?
It can be true in NA
But not World
The crown jewel is World leaderboard not server wide
opal heron
Can he beat hypercarriers now?
He is the electric hyper carry
Otherwise I am pretty sure no one is beating wind guy
I'm not sure what changes with bready
Bready is definitely usable
Water was close
Last time
opal heron
Solomon guy from JP would still beat Kira lol
Ye but in NA he has less competition
sharp stag
Don n Co stepping up
opal heron
Solomon guy from JP would still beat Kira lol
Also a new unit means
sharp stag
opal heron
New rng
It seems like bready is far more relevant and can carry a team by herself, since she has distributed damage
Iirc black snake needs dist damage
It may also mean that bready changes the campaign meta
For black snake
Rn SBS is used
vagrant bone
i dont even remember what black snake does 
opal heron
i dont even remember what black snake does <:CrownGoofy:1309953603854794833>
There's a breakdown arima did
In raid planning
split void
Kira's water team is not that strong iirc
Im more interested in CA
Who do you think will win IN SEA
opal heron
Kira's water team is not that strong iirc
He was #3 world
split void
He was #3 world
Yeah hes not the strongest tho
opal heron
Im more interested in CA
urban tide
foggy wolf
i'm hate watching hoping she's dogshit
but she looks like a water raid staple for a long time
sacred agate
because water's standard for dps is below the floor
vital horizon
Coping that she's overpowered
im the opposite
grand kiln
However the counterargument to this is that, there is a breakpoint for the DoT.
dot instance on application for harran 
foggy wolf
rare harran outfit showcase
spiral quail
It seems like bready is far more relevant and can carry a team by herself, since...
For me she looks meh since that profit reduced by having to remove Alice sbs from maids
opal heron
For me she looks meh since that profit reduced by having to remove Alice sbs fro...
I'm talking about water weak
maiden ingot
I want bready to cook
grand kiln
For black snake
Does snake use maids or crown helm tho cuz it would also force maids
opal heron
Does snake use maids or crown helm tho cuz it would also force maids
Anchor and crown
grand kiln
Yea probably changes campaign meta for that boss
prime yew
So breedy make the first trio team NIKKE.
wheat radish
So breedy make the first trio team NIKKE.
Nah, I think Bready is obviously inclined to be with sustained damage team buffers. But Summer Rosanna is the only one right now for that damage type… Which means that’s got to change soon
Enter Queen Siren
prime yew
She go with Macho.
naive atlas
Only in water-weak raids, unless she actually does outdamage SBS
wheat radish
I think she’s actually a poor choice to be with pirate maids, and is something we’d want to avoid if at all possible
wheat radish
Strengthens the case even more for Siren or some character to come rescue Bready from the chains of being in a trio
Elegg treasure, maybe?
Chubby Duo
wheat radish
… Anchor?
foggy wolf
ssr version is fat
foggy wolf
that's a nice american definition of slim but i'm european that shit is fat over here
prime yew
I'm not American.
foggy wolf
you don't need to be
prime yew
grand kiln
Is she fat or is she healthy tho
grand kiln
Idk about that one, most of them are definitely not mentally healthy
foggy wolf
no not mentally lol
grand kiln
prime yew
Is she fat or is she healthy tho
don't talk about anatomy of android, clearly ShiftUp know less 😆
prime yew
She's on a seefood diet
Her seafood diet
split void
@grand kiln I told u the delay is around 0.35s smh
Sing shong sing shong xang xing xong
Trust de process
grand kiln
<@96798684208955392> I told u the delay is around 0.35s smh
For wat
Sbs? I found the one charge where she shot at minimum delay actually and showed people
they still denied it til release
vital horizon
Sing shong sing shong xang xing xong
cinder leaf
Where’s the meth
nova moat
Where’s the meth
cinder leaf
wtf
I don’t know what to feel about this
guess I’ll wait for the actual numbers when she’s out
nova moat
? What to feel?
timid herald
feeling so alive
that you go into the cash shop and buy more gems and tickets 
https://youtu.be/BoCHcKJSAgg
opal heron
whattt
what
?
sustained damage is THAT good???
what is the 300% thing btw
is it x4 or +300% sustained damage for 10s
mf future potential ahh unit
deep tartan
Thats what need to be tested first tomorrow so that she become one raid only or have potential for more
foggy wolf
if every nikke does low sustained damage then they all have future potential
just needs a new nikke that buffs sustained damage by a sickening amount and it's balanced because everyone else has a low baseline anyway
opal heron
I’m broke asf with only 33k
i cant pull bready bro
i have to spend gems on champs
or well
cinder leaf
i have to spend gems on champs
Lmao what
opal heron
to qualify for champs
cinder leaf
Ohhhh
foggy wolf
ticket pull
cinder leaf
🥴
half tulip
is it x4 or +300% sustained damage for 10s
73% is with 300%
106% is with 4x
opal heron
73% is with 300%
106% is with 4x
aftertaste = 455.21%
is it
- +300.3% = 755.51%
or is it - ×1+3.3 = ×4.3 = 1957.4%
grand kiln
aftertaste = 455.21%
is it
- +300.3% = 755.51%
or is it
- ×1+3.3 = ×4.3 = 1957....
cope that its 4x, i dont think we have any skills the add direct multiplier yet
but we do have for example asuka -40% less gun damage
opal heron
cope that its 4x, i dont think we have any skills the add direct multiplier yet
my first thought was that this is an attack damage buff
grand kiln
i expect it to be a damage multipler change
or else it would say sustained damage up 300%
but its similar to this
asukaW doesnt go to -35% conversion on gun
opal heron
but its similar to this
yeah i feel like it multiplicative to the after effect thing
grand kiln
it goes to 3.282%
deep tartan
Yea its says effect up not just some random damage up so kinda leaning toward the cope too
scarlet yoke
#research-results message
Is there version with animation cancelling?
opal heron
https://discord.com/channels/968096627002851379/1046881062111952976/135444797816...
no but idk if its worth it either
oblique crow
short grail
knowing their coding
it's prolly deductive
teal rose
well 1 copy bready it is then
man SU is not giving any shit units at all before 2.5 anni this time around
reef mirage
There will be a selector in 2.5 
dusty granite
There will be a selector in 2.5 <:BobbyBola:1348639445213118525>
i think i'll go for Maid Anchor if i don't get her in wishlist before 2.5 anni
i just got Maid Mast a few days ago
from wishlist (excluding pilgrims) i don't have Milk, Miranda, Poli, Exia, Frima, Eunhwa, Signal, Mana, Yan, Folkwang, Aria, Maid Anchor, Epinel, Admi
i forgot which more i don't have
Ludmilla
Vesti, Yulha, Diesel
so Maid Anchor is the best here to choose from the selector?
foggy wolf
did i miss something since when does half anni have a selector? i thought that was a new years banner thing
reef mirage
I was not here last anni, i read again and they didnt give it, i misjudged their kindness 
azure torrent
is maid anchor in wishlist yet
shes the only nikke i dont have (besides winter rupee and anne)
idle magnet
is maid anchor in wishlist yet
After maintenance
raven dawn
After maintenance
Sounds good
slow lark
it's because she's fat
so she shoots slower
ha ha ha
I mean her squadmate crust looks to be right after this patch so most likely she'll be the intended support for bready
but it doesn't mean much since shiftup decided to put SR on this patch
azure torrent
she should be able to reflect bullets with her fat
ornate mauve
Give her Def overloads to make her fatter
lilac veldt
Give her Def overloads to make her fatter
Core 7 her too for more HP%
ornate mauve
Yeah get fatter
slow lark
should have made her defense type and her damage scale with def or hp
or is that too on the nose
little kernel
lilac veldt
ornate mauve
Shift up fumbling the bag again
Why does Cinderella get the pig kit
It should have been bready
Hold up Cinderella hp scaling...
📣 Hello, fat fetish artist?
ornate mauve
Do not draw bready going on a diet, I will literally die
split void
Oh we still on mt
slow lark
well
cinderella being def makes sense because of the big shields she has
just saying bready should have been defense too
deep tartan
Its already lorewise
Fat is some kind of slow poison and she deal dot
slow lark
rocket launcher? she's a sniper
signal sentinel
So the RosCO calcs are that bad huh?
nova moat
Rosco?
deep tartan
So the RosCO calcs are that bad huh?
Sros bad if +300 more than sbs if x4
maiden ingot
Hello breaders
naive atlas
Just a caveat that I'm pretty sure X Guillo's role is a bit different, so they shouldn't be directly compared imo. X Guillo's buffs team buffs are much more potent than Bready's, which gives her a certain amount of leverage even if her DPS isn't the best
If anything, Bready might raise X Guillo use since it's one more good DPS unit in the pool
split void
When does mt end wtf
naive atlas
Phantom definitely not happy tho (not that she ever really was)
hoary heron
When does mt end wtf
extended
naive atlas
Bready still raw Needed more time in the oven
stray bramble
Yup, almost guaranteed ca
foggy wolf
overcooked bread
deep tartan
No fucking way 3 more hours waiting for the dot cope
prime yew
3 more hours?
When SU is not finish cooking the bread
ornate mauve
I'm cooked if I don't get the maids from gacha
But I have to MLB Bready for the lobby so hopefully they spook me 
prime yew
overcooked bread
SU can't pull out quickly.
verbal mountain
maybe if you ask shift up they will give the maids for you :)
prime yew
maybe if you ask shift up they will give the maids for you :)
The squad name is Maids for you, not maids to you.
vital horizon
Just use your magic card
maiden ingot
Bready
languid glacier
Is this another solo raid only unit that might get kicked out in the future?
sacred agate
unless they release 4 more water dps this year no
idle magnet
She looks strong for water weak boss
Maybe alrdy power creeped in 2 banners on half anni
dusty granite
Maybe alrdy power creeped in 2 banners on half anni
exactly, bready looks like a niche water DPS raid unit
i'll save for 2.5 anni instead
naive atlas
Water DPS units are fundamentally never used vs neutral unless it's X Lud
foggy wolf
and privaty if she somehow counts as a dps
those 2 are part of an older nikke era
these new water dps >.>
ornate mauve
She looks really comfy for harvester and that's about it
Unless sustained numbers are crazy
You have to shoot the mobs if you don't have easy aoe and qeq doesn't pop often enough
It's probably not an issue with Doro but I don't have Doro and she doesn't give you as much damage as Rapi B1
ornate mauve
You can't powercreep Isabel because she was never good
And 5s burst meta never ever
The only pilgrim immune to power creep, Isabel sweep
foggy wolf
i think she was meta for gravedigger at one point to break the circles reliably
deep tartan
Go test her guys
naive atlas
Oh, is maint done?
foggy wolf
hoary heron
And 5s burst meta never ever
if they make isabel 20s b3 with her treasure, maybe 
naive atlas
ornate mauve
if they make isabel 20s b3 with her treasure, maybe <:Kopium:1058023185192325201...
Just wait for someone who gives even more CDR than rapi
naive atlas
inb4 Champ Arena delayed until June
ornate mauve
Champ arena looks awful
foggy wolf
i bet soloraid is fucked
hoary heron
Just wait for someone who gives even more CDR than rapi
8, 9 or even 10s
foggy wolf
new soloraid bosses are a hassle for shift up for some reason
ornate mauve
And I don't want to gamble on whales fighting
hoary heron
Oh, is maint done?
ornate mauve
You guys actually fell for it
hoary heron
imagine its extended again
deep tartan
Test her in 15 minutes obviously delayed 3 hours should be on time now right 
hoary heron
test her in another 3 hours 
ornate mauve
Free gems
split void
NEW CD KEY:
||DE3ZNUT5H4HAG0TEM||
ornate mauve
Damn already used up
waxen forum
@opal heron
hoary heron
it actually got extended another 4 hours
deep tartan
it actually got extended another 4 hours <:ICANT:1051117541159874641>
LMAO
ornate mauve
Nowaying
deep tartan
Now we gonna get 24 hours at this rate
opal heron
YESS another 4 hours
hoary heron
for this test, are they both on neutral damage? or only sbs and bready is on water weak?
deep tartan
for this test, are they both on neutral damage? or only sbs and bready is on wat...
Top right theres word neutral
naive atlas
Unless stated otherwise, raonmiru always tests on neutral
hoary heron
Top right theres word neutral
i saw that, but i wasnt sure if that was only sbs or if it applied to both
nova moat
Neutral everyone 
maiden ingot
Bready was to thick for nikke servers
rare citrus
Just give them cake
woeful skiff
is it allowed to discuss crusty datamine kit
prime yew
you can try, but don't blame me for punishment
teal rose
go to the new crusty thread
deep tartan
No shit delayed again +2 hours when can we test this bread SU
naive atlas
I'm going to miss my dailies at this rate 
idle magnet
naive atlas
All for a pointless gamemode I won't do anyway 
half tulip
wheat radish
Did they really buff her? Real or fake?
half tulip
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076238531371991181/1354843715734077480/G...
@rare citrus new image she just got buffed
half tulip
Did they really buff her? Real or fake?
real
vital horizon
kit fixed
split void
SS tier
naive atlas
vital horizon
wtf
split void
Broken
prime yew
split void
@opal heron @nova moat new numbers
magic oriole
not sure about buff
half tulip
her S1 and Burst ATK went from 50% to 70%
her burst aftertaste buff went from 300% to 349%
magic oriole
they lower her dmg
wheat radish
MATH RUINED
naive atlas
Charge speed reduction only 20%
prime yew
Buff or not?!
magic oriole
split void
they lower her dmg
20% less chg spd
magic oriole
yep
split void
Its higher
prime yew
DAMN, MY GEMS ARE IN DANGER!!
keen ledge
? Whatever I will skip I have no gems
prime yew
magic oriole
I saw the charge speed debuff less but also lower dmg
wheat radish
Distributed dmg nuke nerfed
magic oriole
I haven't index her so no comment
split void
1.85 @500 vs 1.55 @265
wheat radish
Massive nerf to distributed dmg, RIP
magic oriole
split void
Still better damage imo
naive atlas
keen ledge
Bait before siren
timid herald
sustained base damage goes down?
slow lark
both went down
stray bramble
deep tartan
I think its just balancing not buff or nerf
Now we dont need charge speed ol to 100% uptime tho
slow lark
but higher atk buffs
split void
So SS tier 
stray bramble
self buffs went up I think
prime yew
Hmm, so it's not sure a nerf or not
wheat radish
She went from 100% atk selfbuff to 140% atk selfbuff
prime yew
Need someone to test her
wheat radish
And even more atk dmg than before, from 50% to 70%
naive atlas
@nova moat More work
magic oriole
problem is, with high ATK buff but lower modifier, it means she scales worse
timid herald
they want more part of her damage to be in her auto
sustained base was twice the current value?
300->150?
tall mauve
Sustained is nerfed tho
so uhhh it's still a 1 copy pull?
stray bramble
they making ppl pull crust instead of using srosa
tall mauve
so uhhhh maintenance?
split void
so uhhh it's still a 1 copy pull?
Meh at least S tier. For water weak. doesnt change my opinion
half tulip
wheat radish
Sustained is now shit
I think she's now queen of the single hit nuke vs MC though, even better than Ein because it's a concern around having enough ATK buffed not ele dmg
opal heron
S1
70% 50% atk buff every burst
50% 20% charge speed debuff
S2
Lingering taste
10.2% damage taken debuff
150.04% sustained damage
Other taste
40.09% 60.01% atk damage
503.12% 265.07% dist. Damage
Burst
60.19% atk damage buff
Lingering taste
300.3% 349.8% multiplier to sustained damage
Recommended taste
50.29% 70.09% atk buff
timid herald
so the long test time was to nerf bread 
oh 455->150
stray bramble
? won't her basic hit trigger first
timid herald
massive nerf
dusty granite
Bait before siren
exactly
vital horizon
so uhhhh maintenance?
2h extension
magic oriole
split void
Buff to distri, nerf to sust
prime yew
Sustain and distribute dmg goes down
rare citrus
I gonna see Crust new number then update later
prime yew
But other stats go up
naive atlas
Don't ignore that charge speed debuff is smaller
She'll fire faster, meaning higher frequency
thin meadow
So pretty much making DoT nos as good as before ig
foggy wolf
yeah that's true
kind topaz
70% more atk?! that's an insane buff. way more than a lowly 50% atk boost.
rare citrus
1.2s + 0.3 force delay is 4.5s for 5s duration
split void
Buff to Distri, nerf to Sust
foggy wolf
but the sustained dmg is fucked
naive atlas
But now she'll definitely need higher skills for damage 
opal heron
@nova moat it's confirmed an ×4.5 multiplier dude
rare citrus
Good, distribute still broken
split void
BUUUUUUUUUUU
foggy wolf
her whole 'future potential' was in her sustained dmg
robust garden
lol savage nerf
strange shale
💀 🧱
tall mauve
so is bready just worse blue alice?
opal heron
S1
50% 70% atk buff every burst
50% 20% charge speed debuff
S2
Lingering taste
10.2% damage taken debuff
455.21% 150.04% sustained damage
Other taste
40.09% 60.01% atk damage
503.12% 265.07% dist. Damage
Burst
60.19% atk damage buff
Lingering taste
300.3% 349.8% multiplier to sustained damage
Recommended taste
50.29% 70.09% atk buff
It's nerfs and buffs both
naive atlas
wheat radish
Thanks for the visual guide!
If going the Distributed Damage path, Bready:
- +140% atk
- +120% atk dmg
- -20% chspd
All stuffed into 265.07% distributed dmg aoe per fully charged shot.
Those are some nutty selfbuffs.
dusty granite
so is bready just worse blue alice?
exactly
just a bait for Siren
deep tartan
Now her dot damage can trigger twice in 10 secs tho no need to cs ol or cs buffer maybe they reduced it to make it easier to 100% uptime
hoary heron
thats if maintenance ends
verbal sage
I assume heavy investment still to be usable, but prob not as bad as x.guillo or phantom
idle magnet
Where is new meth? Im addicted
dusty granite
I assume heavy investment still to be usable, but prob not as bad as x.guillo or...
maybe slight worse compared to QEQ?
naive atlas
Ah
split void
672.6% vs 437.5% non core
- But 1.2× higher via more ATK
- But 1.167× higher via charge speed
- And 1.167× higher perma ATK DMG
Resultant is 1.637× versus -1.537× except on her Burst (lower), so it's a buff no matter how minor. If there is a core, it's a larger buff.
Worse scaling on external Distributed Damage buffs, but the total damage is still higher. Core damage proportion is higher.
tall mauve
but rather a niche water raid user
which means grabbing trina is of WAY higher value
if the leaks for champions arena is correct then we can finally fix the arena currency deficit and buy all the modules, the profile stuff and the equipment reforge without losing arena currency over time
sacred agate
why would you give her DoT capabilities in the first place
if you just kneecap said DoT right before shipping
???
verbal sage
S.rosa could finally see the light of day for once but then got shot down again
deep tartan
Or they see raon sheet and holyshit she deal more than sbs nerf her dot but buff her dist
keen ridge
So? They buffed or nerfed her?
hoary heron
i still believe rosy is gonna be viable in the future
dusty granite
which means grabbing trina is of WAY higher value
if the leaks for champions are...
i did grab one copy of Trina for waifu and Burst gen purposes
hoary heron
So? They buffed or nerfed her?
both
verbal sage
So? They buffed or nerfed her?
Both
foggy wolf
needs a re-math
split void
Summary:
- More damage on Distributed Route.
- Damage Up on Single Target (likely)
- Damage Down on AoE
- Less reliance on external Distributed Damage buffers.
- More reliance on existence of enemy core due to higher proportion% of basic attack damage.
- Less damage on Sustained Damage route.
half tulip
@nova moat wakey wakey we need new numbers
foggy wolf
but the dmg distributoin was like 25 normal vs 75 sustained or something
verbal sage
I forgor if black snake had core 
No right?
foggy wolf
and sustained really got cut
dusty granite
3 MORE HOURS???
naive atlas
Black Snake has nothing but heads
hoary heron
2
dense hinge
stray bramble
for now
verbal sage
Upping reliance on core for a boss with no core seems weird
fierce wharf
classic SU
dense hinge
24h maintain?
prime yew
Outposts are cooked.
hoary heron
imagine they just cancel champions arena
prime yew
PERFECTLY OVERCOOKED.
verbal sage
My dailies are cooked
stray bramble
I haven't done dailies except dispatch, I'm cooked
prime yew
foggy wolf
Upping reliance on core for a boss with no core seems weird
i bet they have plans for sustained dmg buffer in the future and they needed to nerf bready in advance for that
prime yew
I'm laughing.
naive atlas
imagine they just cancel champions arena <:wahahaha:1008472874513870882>
Few would mourn 
wheat radish
I have mixed feelings, idk anymore
split void
I have mixed feelings, idk anymore
Pull for water weak raid doesnt change anything
She was never gonna be used outside water weak raid anyways
Any slight buffs/nerfs wont change her role
verbal sage
i bet they have plans for sustained dmg buffer in the future and they needed to ...
I mean, all of this was prob planned far in advance
We got rouge who seemed really niche with max hp buff then bam, cindy appeared
Who knows what's coming next
dense hinge
skip for siren
wheat radish
I had dreams of sweeping the world with distributed dmg aoe nukes though
BS Scarlet + Bready 
dense hinge
but what if
verbal sage
Kisenix forgor
hoary heron
what if siren buffs bready perfectly
little kernel
wishlist
dense hinge
what if siren buffs bready perfectly <:JienStare:1331121161869721611>
we have maid duo already
foggy wolf
but now she wants core dmg
opal heron
Bro, can I teach chatgpt how to calculate damage? 
split void
but now she wants core dmg
No
slow lark
why do they like making water attackers distributed damage dealers
foggy wolf
still not?
split void
I said shes more reliant on existence on core not core damage
split void
hoary heron
lemme ask it some jargon
split void
Thats because her basic atk% proportion is now higher
So she relies more on whether is core or not
dense hinge
split void
why do they like making water attackers distributed damage dealers
Check my msg on maincord.
dense hinge
what if siren is b1 support for distributed dmg
hoary heron
what if siren is b1 support for distributed dmg
b1 or b2 cdr imagine
fallow monolith
naive atlas
Poor raonmiru getting pinged a million times
split void
- Iron: Pierce
- Red: Just Pure DMG
- Blue: Distributed Damage, Core Damage, All Kinds of Damage
- Electric: SO MANY BUFFS
- Wind: The Luxury Element (Bad Supports, Dependent DPS Not as fun to play)
slow lark
reaching a bit
naive atlas
someone should pin the before/after before we get five more reposts
deep tartan
Fire I think lean more to pierce too
dense hinge
- Iron: Pierce
- Red: Just Pure DMG
- Blue: Distributed Damage, Core Damage, All...
woa i think fire's theme is pierce
verbal sage
Alice/asuka, yeah
And grave
foggy wolf
can someone datamine bready's current kit in the preload data
and see if the kit is actually the newer one?
magic oriole
man
dense hinge
iron is more pure dmg
hoary heron
chat gpt is so clueless
split void
woa i think fire's theme is pierce
Iron definitely has more pierce. Fire is just pure damage and sometimes that needs pierce. But if we are talking about pure pierce, nothing beats Iron.
half tulip
can someone datamine bready's current kit in the preload data
and see if the ki...
they posted it on twitter 
hoary heron
foggy wolf
they posted it on twitter <:jackalKEK:1163009906329264128>
yeah i wanna know if they lying
split void
SW doesnt have dmg outside parts
naive atlas
Iron definitely has more pierce. Fire is just pure damage and sometimes that nee...
Fire has 3 pierce, Iron has 3 pierce
verbal sage
iron is more pure dmg
Every iron dps has pierce tho
Rh, maxwell, sw
split void
Fire has 3 pierce, Iron has 3 pierce
Just try SW on bosses with no parts
naive atlas
Do we count Laplace?
split void
naive atlas
split void
Do we count Laplace?
No we dont
magic oriole
this much is around 1820% ATK per sec during burst
verbal sage
Well tru
Ehhhh laplace go kick the bucket
split void
dusty granite
I mean, all of this was prob planned far in advance <:kekw:1009394634692247632> ...
Tia + Naga just before Red Hood
Elegg + Re:Zero + Bay before Crown
raven dawn
making Bready the strongest Nikke ever exist
Anyone can confirm?
split void
<:wahahaha:1008472874513870882>
Bruh
verbal sage
this much is around 1820% ATK per sec during burst
Wait what
split void
Anyone can confirm?
WAS
magic oriole
half of Bready DoT
split void
Her sustained was very strong
split void
It was near Cindy level
magic oriole
magic oriole
It was near Cindy level
Cindy deals 18200% ATK?
split void
Mega big nerf
magic oriole
split void
Cindy deals 18200% ATK?
Yes but it scales off HP
foggy wolf
water cindy
dense hinge
now she cooked
raven dawn
Maybe someone will release to help with whatever she's lacking?
deep tartan
Yea they really want her to just deal dist not dot
slow lark
maids
dense hinge
skip for siren chat
deep tartan
Rip future potential
magic oriole
oh true
raven dawn
What is dot?
verbal sage
Damage over time
magic oriole
also I didn't account any buff
split void
Told u my math is correct
magic oriole
that's just pure dmg alone
split void
raven dawn
Damage over time
Ohhhhhh
magic oriole
wheat radish
What is dot?
Damage over time or the Annoying Red Dot depending on context
split void
No need sheet, me math in head at least decently accurate
foggy wolf
if this fat fuck become more powerful than cindy idk how salty i would've been
thank god su found out about this meme character in advance
dense hinge
split void
if this fat fuck become more powerful than cindy idk how salty i would've been
...
no good
She had promising future
😦
Our Bready
raven dawn
She had promising future
Maybe they will re buff her???
deep tartan
if this fat fuck become more powerful than cindy idk how salty i would've been
...
Youre snitching to SU are you
verbal sage
Meta bready could've been a thing
dense hinge
img we have mana for DoT dmg?
split void
But obviously Snake wouldnt pin any of my msg when I said her sustained is broken as fuck yesterday but we are just lacking dmg supports
somber warren
wait she got changed?
raven dawn
Treasure in 2032
🙁
naive atlas
She's a dead unit after this raid cuz they'll need to sell the next raid feature 
raven dawn
But... She has the best design...
dense hinge
sharp stag
There is another unit before Siren
foggy wolf
only pilgrims and eva are sacred the rest are fodder
sharp stag
Lol
dense hinge
damn it
naive atlas
Half-anni is the 30th of April
hoary heron
Ok you do that for me thanks
idek what this is even supposed to be
naive atlas
Unless Bready banner duration is fat, too, we'll have a banner in-between
dense hinge
rotund elbow
how fast is her charge speed now? it was 2s per shot before
slow lark
already stated in patch notes that bready banner ends on 4/10
timid herald
idek what this is even supposed to be <:ICANT:1051117541159874641>
oh I thought that's from some random human written guide it's chatGPT right? lol
deep tartan
Still coping siren b1 cdr specialized dot buffer or something
foggy wolf
i hope siren makes smg shoot straight
hoary heron
Still coping siren b1 cdr specialized dot buffer or something
to make viper the strongest water dps in the game
split void
how fast is her charge speed now? it was 2s per shot before
1.85s before, now 1.55s
rotund elbow
1.85s before, now 1.55s
lool soooooooo skippable
dense hinge
Still coping siren b1 cdr specialized dot buffer or something
but but
timid herald
<:wahahaha:1008472874513870882>
if one shot nuke is a synergy
then any self buff is synergy
split void
lool soooooooo skippable
What
somber warren
the % nerfs are pretty huge, means she doesn't gain much from other buffers
rotund elbow
What
she is as a unit now not viewable. her damage nerfed 2 times while charge speed buffed by ~20%
split void
Her distributed damage stays either relatively the same or even goes up. She is still a decent Water weak raid unit and definitely will have a place against it. It was always where shes supposed to be. Just for that raid, nothing else.
raven dawn
Her distributed damage stays either relatively the same or even goes up. She is ...
Noooooooooooooo
split void
the % nerfs are pretty huge, means she doesn't gain much from other buffers
This is true tho
tall herald
now she needs to reload more. wouldn't say this is a buff
dense hinge
i really hope siren is b1
naive atlas
Pretty sure I can still get top 200 skipping her
split void
Pretty sure I can still get top 200 skipping her <:heh:1008474357519097946>
Top 100 possible if SEA
foggy wolf
reload is not even close to a problem with a nikke that runs with maids
naive atlas
Not SEA
copper coral
idek what this is even supposed to be <:ICANT:1051117541159874641>
where are they getting that helm give charge speed buff?
naive atlas
split void
NA maybe can top 100 if u push a bit harder
Only top 50 had always needed max investments
strange dune
Edit post nerf ?
hoary heron
where are they getting that helm give charge speed buff?
i got no idea man, im juet letting it cook jargon
naive atlas
Barely anyone has max investment in water
split void
I don't even have max investments and had top 50 last water-weak in NA
But u have whale power and core dupes?
somber warren
her sustained dmg got gutted
naive atlas
But u have whale power and core dupes?
Kind of
foggy wolf
whales saying you don't need investments are lying
trust the lb0 players who don't achieve fuck all because their shit sucks
somber warren
i somehow feel SU doesn't have any theory crafters to gauge multiplier%, with how much they changed
naive atlas
Enikk says my CP's pretty bad
split void
Enikk says my CP's pretty bad <:kek:798677933253853245>
Wow lets just ignore thise fucking cores
verbal sage
Enikk says my CP's pretty bad <:kek:798677933253853245>
Phat whel
hoary heron
this is so cooked
teal rose
so bready becomes middy now?
split void
so bready becomes middy now?
Read the chat at least bruuuuu
stuck dove
idek what this is even supposed to be <:ICANT:1051117541159874641>
this reads like chatGPT lol
split void
I bet 5 mins later someones gonna tag Raon again
naive atlas
If looking at sustained route, yes
teal rose
I'm working lol, gimme a tldr
opal heron
so bready becomes middy now?
Basically apparently the Sustained damage really was an ×4 multiplier
But then now it isn't good anymore since they nerfed values
foggy wolf
so bready becomes middy now?
apparently bready was cindy tier dps
now nerfed to normal
naive atlas
Distributed isn't that affected, although she'll need higher investment now and doesn't work off of buffs as well
split void
I'm working lol, gimme a tldr
Sustained route is cucked. Distributed damage should be better (or same same (not much diff)).
hoary heron
apparently summer rosanna is now a rocket launcher dps 
naive atlas
tired rapids
generative AI can't do math btw
foggy wolf
does bready still deal the most sustained dps? idk how many of those we have
teal rose
well my gem shall remain fat at least
split void
generative AI can't do math btw
It can
naive atlas
does bready still deal the most sustained dps? idk how many of those we have
Viper, S Sakura, X Guillo
split void
Depending on model
naive atlas
and technically S Ros, but she doesn't deserve mention for DPS
foggy wolf
xguillo that's right we need half anni pilgrim to buff her
sullen canopy
Nice skip SU
hoary heron
sullen canopy
naive atlas
X Guillo could've buffed hypercarry DoT Bready
split void
Very nice team
split void
X Guillo could've buffed hypercarry DoT Bready
Not enuf
naive atlas
She's a better B3 pair for her than most other units
hoary heron
raven dawn
Gotta love gpt
naive atlas
Wait, that entire thing is messed up
foggy wolf
maybe it takes from the cn version
naive atlas
Lord that's terrible
somber warren
Sustained route is cucked. Distributed damage should be better (or same same (no...
i dunno why than make a sustained damage portion for her, when you gonnasuper cuck that part
timid herald
Viper, S Sakura, X Guillo
so xguillo burst is sustained damage?
why didn't they change the descripton
somber warren
she lost almost 60% DoT damage
stray bramble
some pics of what I asked it earlier this month
split void
naive atlas
so xguillo burst is sustained damage?
why didn't they change the descripton <:KE...
They decided to word it differently, but yes, her "continuous damage" is sustained
foggy wolf
where does the bot take these words from? significantly?
stray bramble
no I have no idea who Lily is
naive atlas
KR and JP use the same term
timid herald
They decided to word it differently, but yes, her "continuous damage" is sustain...
xmaiden also?
hoary heron
its so clueless
vagrant bone
so bready doesnt powercreep every unit in the game anymore, is she still good at least?
foggy wolf
its so clueless
ask the bot if we should pull for bready
timid herald
Attacks continuously =/= continuous attacks
the wording is like a split sentence LOL