[Bready] New Unit Megathread

[grand kiln]

Sounds illegal

[tired rapids]

bro sold his acc

[split void]

You saw nothing

No I didnt

I still have it

[grand kiln]

Having fun is illegal too

[split void]

But Im trying to share ownership with someone so

[tired rapids]

congrats on graduation btw
idk how late I am

[split void]

Quitting Nikke?

[tired rapids]

I checked your bio

[split void]

1 year+ dont bother

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1348628241484873749/OLDTALEssaSonline-video-cutter.com-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[grand kiln]

I still need some1 to check phantom and qeq target

My bet is on highest atk

[tired rapids]

I'll hold the L

[lilac veldt]

https://fixvx.com/NIKKE_en/status/1904730097212674139?t=WwkELjWrAVqSooZ4GxKDhA&s=19

[stray bramble]

great vid btw SU, shows... just her regular shots

[tired rapids]

yeah the preview showed nothing

[lilac veldt]

[tired rapids]

the mode not even enabled

L showcase

[grand kiln]

Wait til they start having bad hands on sbs when ur trying to find the delay

And it ranged from actual delay to like 1s

That was actually so annoying to pinpoint the delay

[split void]

@grand kiln

U dont need chg spd

Just manual

Fuck animation

Cancel it

[grand kiln]

TRU

[split void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1348628241484873749/OLDTALEssaSonline-video-cutter.com-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[lilac veldt]

[foggy wolf]

this is hilarious

[grand kiln]

There's still delay tho but faster

[magic oriole]

so many yapping

ain't read

[split void]

Balanced Nikke wow

[tired rapids]

so after ShiftUp make it unviable to chair via full charge
we chair her anyway to remove delay

nikke moment

[grand kiln]

I mean I chaired Emilia before

[split void]

Chairing 1.5s nikke feels eh

[tired rapids]

I kneel

[frail crown]

Bready kit in 1h

be there

[split void]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-frontline-gfl-girls-frontline-2-vepley-vepley-girls-frontline-gif-16888427785013471290

[tired rapids]

kit already out?

check pin

[frail crown]

Nahh 30 minutes

[tired rapids]

what

[lilac veldt]

The kit's out

[split void]

U said 1 hour now 30 minutes

[lilac veldt]

[stray bramble]

gonna make a prediction rn, she gonna somehow reduce her own charge speed

[frail crown]

fake news SU told me Bready B1 300 attack buff

[lilac veldt]

Oh

[frail crown]

now we wait

[split void]

When 2 of u cant take joke

[frail crown]

they not ready I understand

[split void]

They're not in joke mood u entered at wrong time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1341091403425644574/IMG_4712.gif

[frail crown]

is Bready bad

lemme actually read lmao

[tired rapids]

Bready buffs the team with a fat HP boost after proc-ing feedism

[lilac veldt]

Tier C for Carbs

[tired rapids]

frfr my dad works at ShiftUp

[grand kiln]

I just want to squish bready tummy ngl

[frail crown]

good enough for me ngl

[sacred agate]

I love that literally nobody new in this thread checks the pin

[split void]

https://www.blablalink.com/post/detail?post_uuid=4611573818216339178

The very shortened version with 50% of info cut.

[split void]

Not sleep on it?

[grand kiln]

I can do both at the same time

[split void]

Sleep on thigh and squish the tummy?

[tired rapids]

I should still easily 3% without Bready
so I'll leave y'all to it
see me after new sustained buffer releases

[split void]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[grand kiln]

Squish one side of tummy while other side head

[split void]

That seems uncomfortable

[tired rapids]

to squish or not to squish
that is the question
and the answer is yes

[split void]

Id rather just sleep on her tummy

[frail crown]

SU wrote that essay of a kit all for it to translate to alright dps missing partners

[split void]

Wait hang on a minute

Is a Nikke body warm or cold

[frail crown]

the word vomit is getting crazy man take be back to Crow kits

[grand kiln]

Doesn't matter I'll warm them up

[signal sentinel]

I do think summer Sakura is a mistake for DoT teams

[tired rapids]

pretty much
we won't get her kit full potential for now
this feels worse than AsukaW before ReiTN release

[frail crown]

could be anything now, Bready has stretch marks despite Nikkes not gaining weight

[signal sentinel]

Instead something like:

[frail crown]

low key not buying the full potential stuff from SU anymore

[deep tartan]

Viper the one whos mistake for dot team

[tired rapids]

Bready gave me red flags from all the duo units recently
not pulling bc broke and turned off

[frail crown]

been waiting for so many Nikkes "Full Potential just to be replaced by rando Nikke number 5 who just does alot of damage unconditionally

[deep tartan]

Just cause they in same event

[signal sentinel]

This is viperT's time to shine

[frail crown]

Exia cooked outta Lighting comp after lighting Nikke release

still waiting for True damage aswell

[signal sentinel]

B1/ViperT/RosCO/Bready/Helm

This is my SR agenda which I will be pushing

[split void]

And people say shes the worst treasure

[frail crown]

crazy take when Frima Diesel Milk exist ngl

I'd even add Exia here now

[grand kiln]

Milk

[split void]

No, out of the first 4

The early analyzers

[signal sentinel]

Milk is gonna be meta for exactly one iron weak raid

[frail crown]

put them on fraud watch

Laplace ain't seen a single SR

same with Diesel

and Frnia

[signal sentinel]

Diesel the true worst imo

[split void]

Usable in pvp tho

[frail crown]

easily

[deep tartan]

Now is milk time to shine
Black snake dot are useless with milk healing

[tired rapids]

whoever said ExiaTr bad was objectively wrong

[split void]

Yeah need Milk to break QTE boi

[deep tartan]

Be me skip phase 3 drake for phase 3 milk

[tired rapids]

Elysion tower MW

[grand kiln]

Ngl I skipped diesel frima Laplace and viper

[frail crown]

Diesel treasure for CP padding is insane I'm ngl

[foggy wolf]

what do you use in tower if not laplace

[grand kiln]

Ein qeq or maxwell

[signal sentinel]

LaplaceT is meta in PvP so she's fine

Milk will be relevant when SHelm is next relevant

Frima is useless so far but has potential if future units synergies

Diesel is dead on arrival with no hope

[tired rapids]

I got Viper to SR15 just to bench her bc 0x ELE

[grand kiln]

I also don't care that much about my tower

[tired rapids]

good ol Ein Maxwell
works everytime

[signal sentinel]

Tove/Viper/Leona/BSoda/Drake probably an acceptable team this raid? Maybe?

Viper is ok enough

[tired rapids]

no heals

[foggy wolf]

invested viper is good

[tired rapids]

good luck

[foggy wolf]

on water weak

[signal sentinel]

Just SR15 them all

[frail crown]

Next raid water weak?

[foggy wolf]

yes water weak

[signal sentinel]

So Frima is worst then?

Don't think she has seen any use

[frail crown]

gotta lock in for Brevy

Bready*

[magic oriole]

Or 35-21 script

[tired rapids]

Milk and Frima worst

[frail crown]

their was someone doing funny MW SW stuff

But he came right really quick and left Diesel

[sullen canopy]

Alice doesn't exist lol

[tired rapids]

Diesel was pierce buffer for like 2 days before Mari released

[deep tartan]

Wheres the crazy guy who clear ultra with frima

[tired rapids]

^Frima and Laplace

some guy on BiliBili

[split void]

She has for LaplaceTr against no core Iron

[lilac veldt]

#1245677309017718796 message

[signal sentinel]

Then I default back to Diesel as worst

Elysion tower alone isn't enough to justify a treasure investment. That's so many doll mats.

[sullen canopy]

Guys

[split void]

Milk → Diesel are worst

[sullen canopy]

Why discord looks so bad

[split void]

New update does fuck discord

[sullen canopy]

[split void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125885700777189446/1353762038425452604/6vh66aa5cope1.gif

Mobile alr got fucked last year

Now they fuck pc

[sullen canopy]

Omg

[tired rapids]

people deadass ran 1/10/10 Frima?

[split void]

Why r u a tsundere

Your bio

[signal sentinel]

Milk should be viable in SHelm teams, the two combined is enough CDR to be meta

And if we get more B2 CDR she'll only be more relevant

Since B2 are consistently gimped CDR

[sullen canopy]

[maiden ingot]

Bready meta?

[split void]

Hey shes the 2nd healer CDR that we have

[grand kiln]

Kisenix reading random people's bios

[tired rapids]

Milk SHelm might as well be SHelm solo CDR
what does Milk even provide? healing?

[split void]

[grand kiln]

Cdr is a strong word

Maybe just C

[split void]

All the
Time

[signal sentinel]

ATK buff, healing, and enough CDR to make up for SHelm's being gimped

[sullen canopy]

Guys

[split void]

I bet Apathy still have the Mansplain Mainslaughter thingy

[sullen canopy]

How meh is bready

[tired rapids]

Milk can't even proc her 10shots once within FB
what CDR

[deep tartan]

You know we already waiting this since what
Shelm the last one and none until now and never again I guess lmao

[frail crown]

trust me you'll get one extra burst in the match good CDR

[split void]

https://www.blablalink.com/post/detail?post_uuid=4611573818216339178

[tired rapids]

one proc every other rotation
I guess

[signal sentinel]

Siren B2 CDR

I'm manifesting it lol

[grand kiln]

Surely next iron won't have shelm sw Miranda

[frail crown]

Pierce is dead comrade

[grand nymph]

make her fire for extra keks

[grand kiln]

Stealing shelm from milk immediately

[sullen canopy]

Well I don't care water solo raid

[tired rapids]

if iron weak, this comp is guaranteed in top50

[sullen canopy]

See ya then

[split void]

Bye

[tired rapids]

I simply don't see meta relevance in Milk

[split void]

Shes just a padder

[frail crown]

Yeah tbh especially when theirs 2 water treasure Nikkes

even going for milk for coverage sounds like sketchy investment

Anni on the horizon too

[tired rapids]

I can at least cope and justify a use for every "bad" treasure
not Milk

[signal sentinel]

Oh, I haven't invested in Milk or anything

But she has more potential than Diesel imo

[deep tartan]

Tbh milk is just slight buffed smary

[split void]

Milk is ok for pvp

Very niche and useless tho

[frail crown]

she's comically bad

[split void]

Actually 50% of Helms lifesteal

But buffs other healing

[signal sentinel]

Her life steal is every rotation, so it's equivalent in the end

[tired rapids]

MilkDespair, as she should be

[split void]

Thats alr taken into account

[signal sentinel]

Waiting for Maxwell treasure anyway

Drake&Frima have one, so she must be next

Sugar too

[unique sorrel]

[signal sentinel]

MaxwellT gonna go so hard

[foggy wolf]

so this fatso nikke is she going to be one of the better water dps? considering water dps nikke themselves suck too

[frail crown]

Maxwell treasure she still fine no

[signal sentinel]

[signal sentinel]

Yes, but she'll see zero use outside water weak, like all water DPS

[deep tartan]

Whats bready prediction for skills btw
Another 101010
Or just 7107 or 777

[frail crown]

Water dps have a thing for beating out expectations and being bad anyways

[unique sorrel]

Coverage? What coverage? She has none

[nova moat]

What team should i cook for damage simulation comparison?

[frail crown]

We need 5 water Nikkes for SR minimum

that's what I meant

[unique sorrel]

71010 most likely

[frail crown]

which is still a massive cope

[unique sorrel]

Is milk water? Not from what I remember. Then what has milk yo water units

[signal sentinel]

Maybe

B1/Viper/RosCO/Bready/Helm

Vs

B1/Anchor/Mast/Bready/???

Vs

B1/Anchor/Mast/SBS/Alice

[foggy wolf]

helm doro qeq phantom xlud tove are easy picks and you also have viper rem privaty

[signal sentinel]

Hard because she has two setup options

[frail crown]

Milk is water yes

[foggy wolf]

hitting qte is np

[frail crown]

yepp

the duo too now

xgui

[foggy wolf]

maids yep

[frail crown]

you'd have to have a seriously under invested account to think for milk

[foggy wolf]

i don't think milk has a shot ngl

[frail crown]

but then their are two better treasures there already

[frail crown]

dw SU told me we getting sacred treasures soon

[signal sentinel]

Honestly we need to start getting raids where QTE is different from their weakness

[frail crown]

Milk T0 soon

[nova moat]

Ill just do both
After i got home
anyone cook up numbers already or no?

[foggy wolf]

milk needs core max treasure

[signal sentinel]

Not that I've seen

[frail crown]

QTE system can go already tbh weakness by itself is enough to make you run matching weakness

[signal sentinel]

Ehhhh without QTE some teams like SBS or Cindy would be static every raid

[foggy wolf]

i want raids to have core even if it is partial and parts because shooting a wall like last raid isn't interesting

qte is only annoying

[deep tartan]

Helm already phase 3
Drake phase 2 but I dont like her so I stop
Miranda theres no place to play sw now
Only choice is milk for me lol

[foggy wolf]

10 seconds wasted of immunity even if you clear it instantly why does that mechanic take so long

[frail crown]

that's fair enough

SU could incentive not running them but their idea of making raids hard is removing cores and calling it a day so I wouldn't trust them to do that

[split void]

Dont get Milk. Just keep farming Helm so u can convert later

And get next Phase 3 instantly

Make the right choice

[signal sentinel]

If QTE is different element, then meta teams will be QTE supports and elemental weakness DPS

Which just makes team crafting slightly more interesting/complicated

[split void]

Isabel

[signal sentinel]

Currently it's trivial to e.g. have a water support or dps on every team

[frail crown]

please this

[split void]

Umu

[frail crown]

please SU give the old pilgrims treasures

give Noah treasure and destroy pvp balance

i will be there

[split void]

No

[frail crown]

Yess

[signal sentinel]

Isabel and Harran need treasures

Scarlet just got Trina, SW got Miranda Treasure, Noah has never fallen from meta

[grand kiln]

Black ticket pilgrim

[frail crown]

Harran especially man

[split void]

Nah Isabel will have support that only buffs Electric SG

[signal sentinel]

Rapunzel could use a treasure too tbh

[split void]

[frail crown]

only meta because of a bug is just sad

[frail crown]

SU still think having a revive is enough to compensate for crappy kit

[deep tartan]

Good one now priv gonna back too

[split void]

Affects 1 Electric unit who wields Shotgun.

• ATK DMG ↑500%

[grand kiln]

Electric b3 shotguns that have 5s fb

[frail crown]

man tryna kill grave

Drake *

[signal sentinel]

Rapunzel Treasure:

• S1 now reduces own burst by 20s

• S2 now reduces own burst by 20s

• Burst now has 0.1s CDR as well

[unique sorrel]

We literally have enough units that we don't need her anymore

[grand kiln]

May as well just write "buffes nikke s named Isabel"

[split void]

PrivM and Isabel meta soon

[frail crown]

I agree yes that was my point

[unique sorrel]

[frail crown]

Maiden in T0 too

[deep tartan]

Thing is people dont want elec raid anymore lmao so why buffing elec again lol

[frail crown]

we'll compromise for Harran

[vital horizon]

It's not about what people want

We didn't want water weak raid too

[unique sorrel]

Skills that stack for each burst. I wish their dmg not sucked ass

[split void]

Upon entering Full Burst, affects 1 Electric ally with Shotgun who also uses Burst Skill in that rotation.

• ATK DMG +500% for 10s.

Upon entering Full Burst, affects all allies.

• Set Full Burst Time to 15s.

[frail crown]

SU need to reach this level of based, Trina kit could have been 1 sentence if they were that based

when played with scarlet deal 600% more damage

🧎

[unique sorrel]

Increasing burst time to 15 isn't benefiting knowing most burst buffs last only 10s lmao

[deep tartan]

Yea cant wait for nikke to get another nikke name in their kits lol

[vital horizon]

It's to bait our fomo for future electric ar meta

[frail crown]

the one that will never come

just like our True damage B3 dps

[split void]

Upon entering battle, affects all Electric allies with Shotgun.

• Time Dilation: All buffs last +50% longer.
  Affects all enemies.
• Time Dilation II: All debuffs last +50% longer.

[frail crown]

[vital horizon]

[split void]

[frail crown]

And we fall for it every time

[unique sorrel]

Or actually good true dmg buffer

[deep tartan]

Kinda good for priv too with that dogshit buff uptime

[unique sorrel]

Mid

[frail crown]

This too

[split void]

Nah it also extends to enemy

[unique sorrel]

All we god was clay and flora...

😭

[split void]

[unique sorrel]

Mid

[frail crown]

you not happy with 40s B2

[split void]

Novel dmg taken now lasts 10 seconds

Privaty stun lasts 6s

[frail crown]

smh greedy players

[split void]

Blanc dmg taken lasts 20s

[deep tartan]

But you just said only effect elec shotgun

[split void]

I buffed it up

I think 50% is fairer

100% is stupid

Done

Wait 15s indom in pvp sounds toxic

[split void]

Fixed

[ornate mauve]

If she has 50% charge speed, does that mean she needs 1.5s to full charge or 2s?

[split void]

1.5 I think

[deep tartan]

Theres debate up there and the answer for most people are 1.5

[split void]

Bru

[ornate mauve]

I think so too because she's be omega brick if she actually took 2s and dropped her sustain debuff between shots

[split void]

Look at Emilia

[ornate mauve]

I'm so bricked if the maids don't get added to standard this patch

[split void]

Shes not infinitely charging

[frail crown]

same man

[elder raft]

sbs bready > sbs alice/asuka for non wind weak boss?

[nova moat]

Shouldnt be 2?

[ornate mauve]

How

[maiden ingot]

Guys will 🍞 replace ludimilla for tetra tower

[frail crown]

plz no.. no more SBS partners

[nova moat]

50% of 1?

[ornate mauve]

If she's at -50% charge speed it seems like that at first but that would be horrible because then she can't keep her own buffs up without huge charge speed buffs

So we're coping

[split void]

The % is additive

[nova moat]

Nah wait makes sense

• 0.5 x 1 i.e -0.5s / shot i.e 1.5s charge time

[split void]

-100% means 2x longer

-200% means 3x

And so on

[nova moat]

Yes

So like alice base charge speed

[split void]

But +100% its instant

Spaghetti code

[elder raft]

look at alice... if ^ mean reduce charge time,
bready mean increase charge time...

[ornate mauve]

Charge speed refers to inverse of charge time or something

[split void]

Literally addition

[ornate mauve]

It increases charge speed but game calculates it by reducing charge time

[split void]

It shud be Charge Time

[ornate mauve]

There's no charge speed stat

[split void]

NOT CHARGE SPEED

INTERN FUCKERY

[split void]

Shud be Charge Time ↓80.15%

[ornate mauve]

Hopefully

Imagine mandatory charge speed overloads just so you can keep the debuff up

[cinder leaf]

So how useless is bread

I see the cope has moved on to talking about pilgrim treasures

[lilac veldt]

Pretty much tied to the Sustained Dmg or the Distributed Dmg Exodia

pick your poison

[cinder leaf]

I see I see

Skip

[deep tartan]

You can read the patchnotes again and see that anchor and trina will be added cause its gonna be a long mt

[maiden ingot]

Bread and butter

[half tulip]

🍞

[maiden ingot]

Bready and alice

[cinder leaf]

Question is will the unit after bready gonna be a must pull bait cuz it’ll be right before anni 2.5

Might get someone released from the npc jail

[nova moat]

30s mental math

80-85% of sbs

Reel math in an hour

[cinder leaf]

No shot

Waiting for reel meth

[nova moat]

It's just scribbles i did at work

[deep tartan]

Is that the dot one or dist one

[cinder leaf]

How boring is your work that you do math for fun

[nova moat]

There'll be no reel meth, i got on the wrong train home so gonna kms now

Jk

[cinder leaf]

[nova moat]

I was walking between 2 offices floor when bready kit drop

[cinder leaf]

And I was asleep. So now going to work aka will haunt discord for the next 7-8 hours

Get meth

[nova moat]

Soon

[lilac veldt]

We'll only know next next Sunday

[cinder leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-heisenberg-vince-gilligan-gif-17016123874427286459

[lilac veldt]

[somber warren]

Inb4 K before 2.5 anniv

[nova moat]

S.u really have the habbit to drop good banner before anni

[lilac veldt]

Would be funny if GTA 6 released before K did

[cinder leaf]

Probably

Or the new girl with the glasses whose name I can’t remember

[deep tartan]

Can be known pretty soon if you lurk in datamine and theres leak for the next banner too tomorrow

[cinder leaf]

Great thighs is all I remember

[timid herald]

looks like a viperT sros bready team for water weak

[somber warren]

Datamine should know who is thr next banner

[nova moat]

They dont

[lilac veldt]

I can't remember the names, but I do know that it rhymes with Alister

[cinder leaf]

Lately Datamine be pretty dry but let’s hope

[lilac veldt]

we're so dead if Shift Up pulls off what I'm thinking right now

knocks on wood

[somber warren]

Eyeri

[cinder leaf]

who’s the most anticipated npc jail exit

[cinder leaf]

Yeeeeee

Her

God

[lilac veldt]

yeah her

[cinder leaf]

I’d go all in on that shit

[signal sentinel]

At this point I don't think there's any NPC jail I'd roll for who isn't pilgrim or overspec

We really have a SSSR tier now

Well and truly

[lilac veldt]

Everyone's hunch right now is Siren

For half anni

[spiral quail]

First ppl say that we must pull trina cuz siren might be electric ar, now this

[lilac veldt]

Who knows they might swerve and do a Chime

[foggy wolf]

pulling trina for siren was cope

idk why people got such ridiculous shit in their heads

[cinder leaf]

That’s pretty much confirmed with all the ads tho

2.5 is siren

[lilac veldt]

Because it happened with Rouge

[foggy wolf]

but you can pull everything it's a gacha

[lilac veldt]

and Cindy

[deep tartan]

Yea the kits should just says buff scarlet to stop the cope

[versed raven]

Every unit has to be a buffer for the next big unit

[somber warren]

SU is currently on a small streak of not making outright trash kits

[foggy wolf]

rouge is very different

[somber warren]

Last one was Flora

[foggy wolf]

siren will need a flora bready trina team ofc

or brick

[somber warren]

Siren B1 buff pure, dd and sustained damage. Her kit will be 3 pages long

[deep tartan]

She gonna brick bready if she buff both

[lilac veldt]

Had Trina be a 40 secs B2 instead, we at least could've had Drunk Scarlet and Ein on the same team along with Flora

[versed raven]

Oh well imma skip this fat one

[foggy wolf]

i wanted to do water top 200 i might have to pull

[somber warren]

You can pretend trina be 40s and burst alternate

[lilac veldt]

Oh right

[stray bramble]

eww imagine using flora

[somber warren]

[fierce wharf]

Flora who ?

[somber warren]

The nikke who cannot read

[lilac veldt]

She went well with Harran too. Too bad Harran requires a kill to start stacking

[cinder leaf]

Harran in 2025?

[somber warren]

Eden pilgrims are in such sad states

[lilac veldt]

yeah

[somber warren]

Other than noah

[cinder leaf]

Except Noah, she keeps winning in arena

Yeah

[deep tartan]

Iconic duo
Bricked if you see pilgrim and pull them

[spiral quail]

I pulled for PvP, no regrets

[lilac veldt]

I now have Core 3 Harran at this point

[signal sentinel]

Siren kit:

S1: During full burst, buff allies ATK based by X% of own Defense

S2: when using burst skill, increase ally reload speed by 40%, ATK Dmg by 40%, reduce ally ammo by half

Burst: B3 AoE

That's right y'all

XRupee/Doro/Trina/Siren/Flex meta

[foggy wolf]

yeah she's obviously made to buff scarlet

pulling her for that purpose is worth it

[lilac veldt]

I tried to pull for her but Trony spooked me

[foggy wolf]

lovely kit haha

[cinder leaf]

I never pulled trony but she’s mlb now with all the spooks

[somber warren]

I put Priv inside too. Every shot dealing bonus damage is broken

[cinder leaf]

🫥

[somber warren]

Since 100% ammo down

[maiden ingot]

Does that mean if played with privaty every magazine has one bullet?

[somber warren]

Doro best CDR unit

[foggy wolf]

i'd like a 20s b3 hyper carry one day

[signal sentinel]

SU obviously would add a "this does nothing if already at 50% down" to prevent abuse because we can't have nice things

[somber warren]

Finally doro priv + isabel can work

[lilac veldt]

Nah, Isabel goes with Baking Bunny Soda, to extend her burst to ten seconds

[stray bramble]

no no no, isabel with treasure vesti, both of their full bursts become 5 sec, new support added that only works with 5 sec long full burst, but giga buffs

[frank cedar]

So many number an text but she's not a mandatory unit I see , good grief

Was about to mock ani powercreep demanders again

[lilac veldt]

She's an Exodia unit

[signal sentinel]

That's just Liter

[stray bramble]

yeah but also as a b2, but specifically only works with 5 sec full burst

[frank cedar]

As in , something might be released later that makes you cry for skipping ?

[lilac veldt]

Kind of, but then there's S Rosanna and the Aegis Maids waving

[stray bramble]

something like: when entering full burst, gain a buff for 7 seconds, when full burst ends, if buff exists, remove it, buff a shit ton, refill 50% burst bar, do insane nuke dmg, etc

[deep tartan]

Yea cause theres no good dot buffer now

[frank cedar]

Blergh I have 32k+18 and 800 tickets , guess I'll try to grab her and put her on the bench

💀

[timid herald]

if you have so much cdr you can run one b3

doro 1 ammo

[ornate mauve]

Is that with Alice/mana or just by herself?

[nova moat]

With alice but its just gibberish

[ornate mauve]

Because 80% of SBS in a SBS bottom team would be huge

I'm gonna cope

Hopefully I sacc the maids with my 200 standard pulls

[foggy wolf]

why did you even skip the maids wtf man

[ornate mauve]

I don't need more SBS buffers

But bready needs them and she's worth it

[foggy wolf]

scarlet must be one of their favorites she's receiving buffs lately in both of her forms

last few months were all about scarlet

[ornate mauve]

I think filler units are going to be gimmick comfy anomaly units now

Like mana and bready

[keen marten]

"SRosanna is the only sustained buffer." At least we can tell who never built Treasured Viper.

Too bad tViper isn't going to be that useful against black snake because of all the damage shoving her out of vamp status and making it hard to keep Bready's buff maintained.

[sharp stag]

Inb4 Emilia got in top parses

[lilac veldt]

Just propaganda for the next popularity poll

[keen marten]

Oh wait, Viper only buffs her own sustained damage. Never mind

[lilac veldt]

But I'm still voting for Rapi if that will still be a thing

coz I have Cindy's gacha skin

[half tulip]

is this dist or dot?

[nova moat]

Distributed but it's just scribbles

[hoary heron]

what makes viper bad against black snake?

[keen marten]

Viper needs to stay in Vamp status (not get hit) to gain the full benefits of her kit, treasured or not. Black Snake deals adjacent damage to Nikke on both sides when it hits a Nikke, bypassing Viper's stealth and knocking her out of Vamp.

[hoary heron]

[keen marten]

You can put Viper in position 1 or 5 to limit that, but she's still going to get hit

[hoary heron]

how does it bypass her stealth? does it have pierce or something

[keen marten]

The poison attacks do splash damage to the Nikke on either side.

And eventually it will just do AoEs

[hoary heron]

[keen marten]

Unlike Blacksmith, where unless it bugs out, Viper never gets targetted the entire fight.

Irrelevant here for Bready, since Viper only buffs herself.

[hoary heron]

so could you cover with viper to prevent it? or does it go through cover too

[keen marten]

It pierces cover all the time with most of its attacks.

[hoary heron]

[tired rapids]

real math

[foggy wolf]

we should vote for rapi because i want her in another outfit

the scarlets already look good

[stray bramble]

No vote for cindy

[tired rapids]

what's to say Rapi won't get a gacha skin

[stray bramble]

I don't care for skin, my queen needs the win

[tired rapids]

I don't care about skins either

I will say, Scarlet simps need to get their shit together
would it be Scarlet or ScarBS
make up your damn mind

[prime yew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1jji6x7/bready_became_the_most_popular_nikke_likewise/

Must pull

[stray bramble]

Rapi is that vanilla childhood friend that never says how she truly feels, but still expects you to pick her, she doesn't deserve it

[tired rapids]

if you said this a month ago, I'd say impossible
but if Helm got treasure, Maxwell might have a chance

[versed raven]

🗣️ damn

Get back to topic

This isnt the yapping research

[timid herald]

was wondering how much gen for bready when she apply sustained damage in pvp but need lingering taste buff and can’t get that until someone burst for now

and when she get that buff she shoot slower too

[ornate mauve]

Maybe she'll be good with Rosanna

I wonder why they gave her 2 play styles, maybe she's meant to be a sustained DMG DPS but there's no real team for it yet so they stuck her with a distributed kit as a backup for a while?

[deep tartan]

Yea give her dist first so she can deal with black snake for now then years later release dot buffer then her dps gonna climb high

[ornate mauve]

[vital horizon]

They should vote og scarlet, because my sbs ady has her gacha skin and Idw to change that

[tired rapids]

only S.Rosanna can enable her superior mode
but the entire team DPS suffers

[timid herald]

I like the team flexibility kits though
means if you are invested only one side you can still use her or like distributed damage is better for mobbing team etc.

any non burst sustained or distributed damage buff even with low number like from favorite item can enable her more

[somber warren]

With maids she gets DD buffs, which is a separate dmg modifer from her own att dmg and att buffs. Looks like there's huge potential

[nova moat]

is it safe to assume she can activate her buffs consistently every 5 seconds when shooting nonstop on auto?

[half tulip]

with no reload yes

[nova moat]

1 attack every 2 seconds tho?

oh 1.7

[sharp stag]

Waiting for u to cook

[nova moat]

[sharp stag]

Sheet updated?

[nova moat]

i got distracted by canteralle tongue

[sharp stag]

Aren't we all?

[nova moat]

[tired rapids]

wuwa goon in bready thread is crazy

same tho

[nova moat]

i cant focus

any theory crafter around?

remind me distributed damage buff is same bracket as atk damage right?

[nova moat]

oh its damage taken bracket

cool

thanks

[sharp stag]

Later gimme da update sheet pls

[maiden ingot]

New best ssss tier unit breedy let s a gookk

[half tulip]

how's it looking

[hoary heron]

so whats the verdict on bready? or too soon to tell yet

[foggy wolf]

nice water dps for solo raid

then benched

[nova moat]

dude

im a fking god

[nova moat]

[half tulip]

[nova moat]

@sharp stag

[half tulip]

how does dot look?

[nova moat]

Im doing that

Do you think its 455 +300 or 455 x 4 tick? @half tulip

[half tulip]

i think it's x4

[nova moat]

Ill put both in but x4 seems too cope

Rapi Viper Summer Rose Bread HelmTr

[half tulip]

it's so weird to read

[somber warren]

If its x4 the dmg% becomes extremely high lol

[sharp stag]

Proud of u asian boi

[mighty kernel]

10.2 % damage taken up

[ornate mauve]

300% up should be 4x

How does Rapi work?

She has a similar thing for her explosion DMG

[ornate mauve]

SBS is DEAD

She got eaten

[maiden ingot]

It's over sbs powercrept. Sbs needs treasure item

[ornate mauve]

The scarlet killer...

[nova moat]

so cope

[ornate mauve]

[sullen canopy]

sbs is wind

end game is everything about ele

[ornate mauve]

I hope sustained Bready is the good one so shift up can't twist my balls for skipping maids

But then my harvester team is bricked

[nova moat]

its good to have a baseline for comparison

[ornate mauve]

SBS is so gorilla people use her in every element every raid so if you do anywhere near as much damage as SBS with Alice/Mana it's probably really good

[timid herald]

next unit give sustained damage buff without bursting

if not in time or skipping summer rosanna

[wraith tulip]

@opal heron you pinned the wrong skill sheet.
@slender sedge posted a better quality one that its easier to read.

[mighty kernel]

-50% charge speed

[sullen canopy]

So, against no core she's meh?

[nova moat]

[sullen canopy]

I mean bready

[foggy wolf]

does distributed dmg give a fuck about core?

[nova moat]

Core or not doesnt mean much

[sullen canopy]

ok ok

[nova moat]

I just put 50% as a baseline of most teams i calc

[sullen canopy]

That ain't the question

[foggy wolf]

i'm not asking you

it is my question

[nova moat]

No

[sullen canopy]

K k

[deep tartan]

Really need to test that cope fast tomorrow
Seems promising

[nova moat]

Majority of the damage is unaffected by core or not

[foggy wolf]

it should help her compete when there's no core vs other snipers

[sullen canopy]

[foggy wolf]

alice vs bready in sbs comp

[nova moat]

Yep
Its means no core boss = more favorable to her

[sullen canopy]

K k

Just like wasuka

[opal heron]

What's the final damage

[nova moat]

I didnt touch final damage cuz ramping up buffs is lazy

[opal heron]

Wait wdym

She has ramp up?

I don't think she does, right?

[nova moat]

Maschor

[pliant jolt]

How much drop will it be for sustain from 4x to +300%?

[nova moat]

Both Shown in the same image

The top number

[vital horizon]

would mast anchor ramp up benefit sbs more or bready?

[pliant jolt]

Oh sorry, I cannot read. I thought the top is dist. Thanks

[opal heron]

Crazy how manchor skippers have an easy skip this banner

[nova moat]

Should be the same

[grizzled gulch]

I have Mastchor n I'm still thinking of skipping

[naive atlas]

Same

[opal heron]

Overall how much do you think bready is outputting

[nova moat]

[opal heron]

80-90% of SBS?

[naive atlas]

But if this unit is good, I'm giving up my water specialization by skipping

[opal heron]

This is damage during one burst?

Of maids fully stacked?

[twilit cedar]

just pull via wish list ez

[nova moat]

1 cycle of fully stacked maids buffs

[opal heron]

Thanks

[vital horizon]

surely my 200 standard ticket will give me at least one bready

[naive atlas]

Won't be wishlistable for SR

How's her offburst damage tho

[nova moat]

1 of each burst 3 + 6s burst regen time

[opal heron]

So 26s cycle?

[nova moat]

Yea

[opal heron]

Can you show me the current
Uh
Current rankings

[naive atlas]

Oh cool, question answered then

[opal heron]

I wanna see where bready would lie if we just do 83% of sbs

[nova moat]

No
All rankings are fked cuz i didnt update shits since before HelmTr is out

[naive atlas]

vs non-core, top water DPS, no? Aside from maybe Helm?

[nova moat]

My sbs in the ranking was DKW Crown SBS Alice Privaty 💀

[split void]

I would say it is false.

We see after drop.

[split void]

Sir.

[nova moat]

This is new sbs calc tho dw

[split void]

It should at least be Rapipi Crown SBS Alice HelmTr.

[naive atlas]

So distr damage looking the way to go? Cuz the sustained damage would give her synergy with X Guillo if using S Ros

[split void]

Versus Rapipi Maids QQ Bready.

[grizzled gulch]

That's y he said his ranking in fvcked n unusable

[split void]

That's why it feels wrong smh.

[nova moat]

Explain?

[naive atlas]

X Guillo burst is sustained damage

[split void]

Where is Crown.

[naive atlas]

EN just wrecked TLs

[nova moat]

Wdum where is crown
Its mast anchor

[split void]

It's a bit unfair comparison. Bready NEEDS Maids.

SBS doesn't.

[naive atlas]

Both buffed by S Ros, Bready buffed by X Guillo

[tired rapids]

probably stupid question
non-core, in Mast Anchor Bready HelmTr
who hits harder, Helm or Bready?

[split void]

Bready is self-limiting for that reason.

Take that into account.

Instead of leveling the field.

[nova moat]

Ok
You do your own calc then

Show numbers

[split void]

I thought we were friends.

[nova moat]

It's 11pm i aint sitting up again to redo SBS

[split void]

Why do every time I comment on your calculation and give feedback, you always say do your own smh.

[nova moat]

You're the only one nit picking on maschor SBS

[split void]

Because it is more accurate.

[grizzled gulch]

[tired rapids]

huh, S.Rosanna Bready XGuillo
we cooking

[nova moat]

I dont see the problem

[opal heron]

SRosanna 😭

Bro the sustained damage portion they were trolling us with

It's crazy

[nova moat]

Do you think crown helmTr is better than maschor for SBS? @split void

[opal heron]

Me when none of my buffs proc

[split void]

The problem is if you change the supports into Liter Elegg X X HelmTr, the percentage will skew again.

Or if you change into some random bs like Tia Naga.

[nova moat]

that's not a problem.
It's common sense

[split void]

It's what matters.

[half tulip]

@rare citrus can you update the image in OP please?

[nova moat]

Why should i do crown helm?

[split void]

You calculated Cindy damage without bug and it's only correct because her burst dealt double damage.

[opal heron]

No way is it low qual again

[buoyant nimbus]

So how is she?

[half tulip]

it has like 50% resolution lmao

[nova moat]

Why blame me for bug?

[half tulip]

this is what i sent now

[split void]

Nono, that means the calculation was not correct.

Because you used non-bugged values before release.

[naive atlas]

Guys, obviously it's QeQ/X Lud who are going with Crown, and Bready with maids, so Rem for SBS, right?

for that RL buff

[split void]

Sir, stop the cope.

[naive atlas]

[tired rapids]

I thought Rem goes with Cinderella

[nova moat]

It's correct after days of bug fixing cuz her description is written like shit

[half tulip]

oh apparently the masteryapper is in chat

[naive atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[nova moat]

[split void]

I stay true to my words that Bready is around 50~60% of optimal SBS.

[nova moat]

Who's rem?

[split void]

And 60-70% of Alice.

[nova moat]

[split void]

Maybe +10% with good build.

[tired rapids]

eeeeEEEEEEeeeee noises

[split void]

Depends on element also.

[opal heron]

There's really not much to it, from our current understanding:

• She is 83% of SBS, which is good enough for water raids (because im pretty sure that xGuillo and Phantom are not as good).
• She is a distributed damage DPS, but is hard stuck to be used with Maid Mast and Maid Anchor.
• She is strictly a unit for water raids
• Unsure about PvP use since she is a rocket launcher

[split void]

I would say 50-70% of SBS, then, depending on investments.

But definitely not 83%.

[half tulip]

BRO CAN'T EVEN READ NUMBERS

[split void]

Against Crown HelmTr SBS.

[ornate mauve]

Real fans pull manchor just for Bready

[split void]

And yes Crown HelmTr for SBS is better @nova moat.

[nova moat]

[buoyant nimbus]

You mean Sniper Rifle
But at least if she has use on SR, i guess i'm gonna pull

[split void]

But marginal.

Mast Crown, Crown HelmTr are slightly better than duo Maids.

[nova moat]

You made me sit up on my chair
Ill block you if it's not correct

[half tulip]

just block

[split void]

Marginal difference.

[opal heron]

TLDR
DPS for water weak. Hard stuck with maid mast and anchor. If you do not have maid duo, then skip her. If you have them, only pull if you care about water weak solo raids.

There's really not much to it, from our current understanding:

• She is 83% of SBS, which is good enough for water raids (because im pretty sure that xGuillo and Phantom are not as good).
• She is a distributed damage DPS, but is hard stuck to be used with Maid Mast and Maid Anchor. If players don't have mast and anchor she is an easy skip.
• She is strictly a unit for water raids
• Unsure about PvP

[split void]

But we are friends.

[half tulip]

SHE IS SNIPER RIFLE

[opal heron]

Which obe

[waxen forum]

Why is she so fat

[split void]

50-70% of SBS on neutral. Take it or leave it.

[waxen forum]

Eat salad

[split void]

[waxen forum]

Do more exercise

[tired rapids]

bread makes you fat

[twilit cedar]

she's the entire bakery

[deep tartan]

Dont forget the cope 4x dot damage guys

[buoyant nimbus]

I always eat breat, but i'm so skinny

[rare citrus]

Should I do 30 pulls on bready?

[ornate mauve]

It's gonna be fire just you wait

[rare citrus]

Have 15k gem + 10 ticket

[half tulip]

change OP image first

[waxen forum]

save

2.5 is coming

[rare citrus]

I already did

[waxen forum]

15k gems + 10 tickets wont be enough to save you

[rare citrus]

Now it has the embed

[waxen forum]

Follow my understaind

[ornate mauve]

I hope they bring back red shoes for 2.5 Anni and she buffs distributed damage

[waxen forum]

Bread is kinda flexible depend on comp

Distributed is like mini SnowWhite

[rare citrus]

230 gold ticket

[tired rapids]

she's yet another water DPS
might as well if you can afford it

[split void]

@nova moat If you block me, you will join the Noir, Shinonono, N3x camp.

[opal heron]

[waxen forum]

Sustain is kinda more strong, BUT currently we dont have strong sustain buffers for her

Only SRosanna available

And we're going to play Distributed route this SR anw

[half tulip]

no, the link you put has 50% resolution

[foggy wolf]

they hired some kind of fetish artist who is into weird shit like troney's feet and this shit

[waxen forum]

not enough for MLB

Imagine not MLBing Siren

[foggy wolf]

a sniper suck with maids is not a good thing though no core dmg buffs

[waxen forum]

[half tulip]

put this link https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354290405453070497/1354423049675477052/Gm7yiLRbYAMVCvm.png?ex=67e53c43&is=67e3eac3&hm=e305bad40fe355f404bb88583100eb52f10a01cc50e8a377940faf24de9c9d46&

[split void]

Her damage is purely skill based.

[opal heron]

Then stop saying dumb shit like crown helm better than mast anchor for sbs

[naive atlas]

Doesn't matter if no core

[foggy wolf]

which is next raid

[waxen forum]

no core dmg buff is fine since we're not having core boss anyway

[split void]

It's better with max invest.

[naive atlas]

Her kit is also basically like S Anis where her normal attacks don't really matter as much if outside of optimal circumstances

[foggy wolf]

very specifically designed in the next solo raid

[opal heron]

[foggy wolf]

but not all water raids had no core

[naive atlas]

They enable her skill damage

[ornate mauve]

Can you use her for fast charging burst tho 🤔

[half tulip]

thanks @rare citrus

[waxen forum]

I will be so disappointed if Siren's gonna Water/Electric and being sustain buffer

It has been 11 months since Iron SR

[half tulip]

what is iron

[rare citrus]

Iron element doesn't exist

It's earth

[foggy wolf]

the dirt

[split void]

You were the one that said Maids are worse than Grave and the others.

[opal heron]

I never said they weren't the best for SBS

[vagrant bone]

i was scrolling a bit, so bready is pretty good and will be better when we get more dot buffers

[split void]

We ArE EnTeRInG SoLO B2 MeTA

[opal heron]

Hmm wdym

[rare citrus]

Siren banner is gonna be water supporter that buff Bready

[foggy wolf]

like how they buffed flora mana and trony? i wouldn't count on it

[split void]

"HelMtR iS USeLeSS in CAmPaign” - Snake, Gatrix

[buoyant nimbus]

Hey Mana still has use comparing to Flora and Trony

[tired rapids]

Flora kek

[split void]

Hey both of u wanted to put HelmTr as S in campaign

Explain

@opal heron

[opal heron]

True

[vagrant bone]

idk im only saying what i read other people say

[split void]

Luckily I stopped u just in time

[foggy wolf]

my point is that they go in the opposite direction

mana is a prime example who is glorified on release and 1 patch later ditched

bready won't get buffed she'll get shafted

[waxen forum]

Actually

I'm so scare right now

[split void]

Yes to the second but to the first just good.

[waxen forum]

Crown was made to be fit in Alice / SBS team

[tired rapids]

Mana was never glorified idk what that was

[vagrant bone]

aight

[waxen forum]

Siren could be designed for Bready

[split void]

Even at best 83% of SBS in her non prime team is not that amazing these days

[nova moat]

[vagrant bone]

considering our options for water dps a good unit is nice no?

[buoyant nimbus]

Mana never glorifieed, but she concluded as help to reach lv7 Kraken comfortably (auto), which she is

[split void]

20% ELE and boom it shifts

[nova moat]

ok Kise

shut up about Crown Helm

[split void]

There are more Crown HelmTr Kraken clearers than Maids btw

[nova moat]

ok and?

[split void]

Your calc is therefore wrong

In practical situations

[nova moat]

[naive atlas]

Mana had 88.3% usage in last raid's top 50

[split void]

Judgment is 50% math 50% practice

Not 100% math like Gatrix

[naive atlas]

Don't lower her to Flora and Trony's level

[foggy wolf]

should've been 100% wtf it's her shill raid

[somber warren]

how long is the delay between each shot for auto?

[split void]

Gatrix writes a lot of misinfo on Asuka's guide cus all are based on his maths

[naive atlas]

It's NGE shill raid

[nova moat]

Cuz maschor is brand new and most ppl not 10 10 10 them yet

[foggy wolf]

same element

[split void]

We needed to rewrite the whole fucking guide

[tired rapids]

Mana saved one of my teams against MOQ purely with 2x ELE and healing

[nova moat]

bro just take the L

[opal heron]

#1331302846687219803 message

[split void]

There are people who do like @sullen grove

[naive atlas]

Only reason it wasn't 100% is because some leviathans could handle the raid without healing

[nova moat]

its actual cope if you think maschor is worse
its not even close

[opal heron]

#1245764121278943345 message

[split void]

Sir Naga was SSS. I wanted to put Helm in SSS. You and Gatrix wanted to put in S.

[opal heron]

Just read the messages I linked

[split void]

So we took the middleground and said SS.

Smh

You forgot

[vagrant bone]

mana is goated, it means i dont have to run alice for kraken anymore 🗣️

[opal heron]

And you can't even say
My name

[vital horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/sky-kimionawa-your-name-anime-gif-17883443

[split void]

Yes your name is LF raid coordinator, top14 GL DM

[vagrant bone]

and i dont feel like investing in waldo right now

[opal heron]

Crazy connection

[opal heron]

Lmfao

Actually lmfao

[split void]

Stimulating conversations are the best

[opal heron]

She's basically phantom powercreep from my understanding anyways

[split void]

I present counterpoints you present pro points. Whether I win, I dont care.

[opal heron]

[vagrant bone]

doesnt phantom need to kill mobs to be useful anyways

[split void]

Ok we do that for hours in Prydwen staff chat

[opal heron]

Umm, apparently not I guess

Last water raid, maids are so good basically that phantom was a relevant DPS

[split void]

I always challenge Snake so I can tell if his decision is firm or hes just picking random letters

[vagrant bone]

damn thats crazy lmao

[naive atlas]

Phantom needs mobs to deal max damage, but not to deal damage period

[split void]

More useful yes but

[naive atlas]

And Mat H summoned mobs

[split void]

Shes decent without

[opal heron]

Basically maids = dist damage units are relevant

But I'm not sure what happens to bready and phantom now

[split void]

^

This

[vagrant bone]

guess phantom will be reserved for mat h and mother whale raids?

[split void]

Whale water weak is very unlikely

Dont underestimate ele bonus

[half tulip]

PHANTM

[split void]

It literally over-doubles your damage

[vagrant bone]

oh so thats why they were ran with sbs, ngl i didnt read manchor's kits

[waxen forum]

not really sure

[naive atlas]

And Phantom wasn't even strong in last water-weak raid

[half tulip]

is Mana charge buff better than HelmT when running Maids? or does HelmT dmg just outweight the buff

[vagrant bone]

i pulled but havent invested in them yet

[waxen forum]

you're kinda need as much distributed dmg characters as you can in next SR

[vagrant bone]

cant run mana with maids

[naive atlas]

Only 51.7%, basically used as "Need another water unit, and this one happens to deal more than the other remaining options"

[half tulip]

yes you can

[twilit cedar]

I read this as 2B is relevant, ty for cope

[half tulip]

i literally just tested it

[naive atlas]

Phantom was basically "Not-Vesti/Brid"

[vagrant bone]

mana's charge buff goes to anchor

[half tulip]

if all chargers have the same charge time it goes left to right

[half tulip]

Anchor 1s - Bready 1s

[naive atlas]

It only doesn't work with SBS

[split void]

No, it goes left to right if same charge speed

[half tulip]

tested with mAnchor + Maxwell, left got chosen all time

[vagrant bone]

oh you're talking about bready mb

[split void]

We discussed that in Prydwen guide

[half tulip]

this is literally bready threat lmao

[split void]

Although none of u reads prydwen anyways

[half tulip]

@nova moat

[split void]

Sir who gave rbat reaction

[vital horizon]

tier list is all u need, how many S a unit has

[nova moat]

Ill try

[split void]

Yes

[foggy wolf]

every time i see the tier list i get mad crown isn't in a tier of her own

[split void]

And damage results from testing

[split void]

She will be soon

Dont worry