[Trina] New Unit Megathread

[young rain]

support specifically made for scarlet (the original, not black shadow)
most likely meta for pvp with scarlet

[mortal venture]

Support drunk scarlet to giga-buff her (or any elec AR unit)
Used with elec AR
Can be used for PvE, mostly is PvP

[steady yarrow]

Alright... Let's goooooooooooo
Scarlet back to meta

[young rain]

not that simple, would have to test and see if trina+scarlet can really bring scarlet back to meta for pve

[dreamy lintel]

[cerulean patrol]

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[hazy copper]

Think imma put her in the Cindy team with drunk

Drunk-rouge-cindy-xmaiden-trina

[harsh pumice]

You'd want XMaiden to be next to Rouge for the HP buffs when she bursts at the end

Drunk-Trina-Cindy-Rouge-Xmaiden

[onyx gate]

even if my xmaiden suck ?

[hazy copper]

Good point

[onyx gate]

SAnis will have no place to go

[visual falcon]

she can go back to Tove team

or go with Biscuit team for a meme 500m dmg

[onyx gate]

we're way pass doro priv already chief

[modern needle]

rouge doesn't give hp to just adjacent units, she gives it to all

adjacent is basically just the atk dmg

[hazy copper]

Rouge skill 2 says otherwise

[modern needle]

the atk dmg and dmg taken is adjacent, that's it

[harsh pumice]

Oh you're right

I've been misreading this whole time

Affect all allies when in shield coin status

Not affect all allies in shield coin status

Yeah nvm then, Drunk/Rouge/Cindy/Trina/XMaiden

[void saffron]

Bunny soda and maid priv

[cerulean patrol]

MPriv wants Tove
BSoda will ruin burst rotation with CDR

[void saffron]

Damn tove is b2 now?

[oblique vortex]

Still lower damage than Drake's phase 3 burst

[safe jewel]

treasure dolla on her way in 12 months

[void saffron]

Soda and priv still outdmg drake in tetra and elysion tower.

[oblique vortex]

You can just get better bugger at b2 position for sharing at that point

[wintry crystal]

All units
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Relevant ones only
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[cerulean patrol]

are you going to run Tove Trina MPriv?

you know what I'm talking about

[wintry crystal]

Tove and Trina? What?

I thought this was all about Scarlet and Trina

Does Trina really offer that much when the team has no Scarlet in it?

[cerulean patrol]

that's what I was thinking

MPriv won't have a place with Trina unless lack of options
and BSoda Trina is just trolling

[trail talon]

I hope this team is great. So i can skip sAnis

[rustic hornet]

Its not good enough

[trail talon]

Damn pity

My drunkard alr is close to sanis so was hoping

[flint plover]

The Cindy rouge sanis xmaiden only needs a dedicated b2

And it's done

[neon cypress]

she's a b2 healer with attack damage% buff

can she be considered in neutral?

such specific requirements, almost make me think about when tove was first released

back then bsoda, mpriv or even leona didn't exist iirc

[young rain]

btw maintenance at 11am KR time?

[onyx gate]

as always for minor event

[desert fractal]

will there even be a chance to skip sanis, im not sure shes coming back this summer

cuz we didnt get xmas1 on xmas3 ripxanne

[onyx gate]

she wont be coming back this summer

seasonal alt will only rerun at the same time for 1 year

[desert fractal]

tove kit had shotguns in general in mind so when new shotguns came it fit, trina kit feels like it has scarlet specifically in mind with the hp up without healing to enable the low hp crit rate buff and atk dmg+reload for electric AR specific, basically exactly what scarlet wants

[wintry crystal]

ShiftUp mentioned rerunning all seasonal alts, but they didn’t decide how to do it for older seasonal alts

We’re still waiting for more information on that, so we might see Summer Anis come back anyway, just maybe not with the new summer unit banners. ShiftUp could also change their minds and let her disappear forever

[vapid jacinth]

if shiftup likes money they should rerun characters

idk why they keep blundering this shit

just copy any other gacha that makes money it is not hard

[flint plover]

part shift up, part the publisher

[vapid jacinth]

0.5 anni we have dorothy

1 year later the community begs for a rerun because they want to throw money at it and shift up ignores it

bunch of idiots

[young rain]

i can kinda understand where they're going

you can still get pilgrims after their banners end

but it's weird that annivs+half annivs don't have rerun while new year does

[void saffron]

Mostly publisher.

[flint plover]

Can you give me the full link pls, thanks

[void saffron]

https://www.famitsu.com/article/202411/22465

[flint plover]

Danke

[young rain]

reed needs to be circumsized

[flint plover]

So we could expect triple banner soon xD

[wintry crystal]

Is this the man that conceived how Pilgrim Molds work?

[young rain]

no but let's waterboard him to find out

[desert fractal]

dont we already have 5 banners

during eva

[vapid jacinth]

solutions to problems like these are always easy

you do the current limited on rate banner like usual and another a mixed rerun banner with all reruns on it except they get a 2% divided by amount of rerun characters = odds banner

this way you can rake in the money as everybody gambles but receives the wrong onrate character and they have to resort to mileage

[onyx gate]

mixed rerun banner is a bad idea anyway

it's anti player

[vapid jacinth]

it is pro money

the worst idea is not making anything available

and that is somehow shift up's idea

[onyx gate]

not really

sometime doing nothing is better than doing something stupid

[vapid jacinth]

yes really having nothing available is the worst

having a character in the mileage shop is always better

[onyx gate]

the outrage if they introduce the mixed banner back will outweigh the money raking in

[vapid jacinth]

having a character purchasable for 200 mileage is always better than nothing at all for the players

worst idea is always 'do nothing'

[onyx gate]

again, i disagree but you do you

[vapid jacinth]

shift up disagrees too they just do nothing sometimes

somehow they believe it is best for their bank account

[onyx gate]

just make a custom choice banner

so you dont saturate the banner tab

[vapid jacinth]

yeah that's another easy solution

genshin did that shit

[onyx gate]

super easy and it's in line with what they're doing right now

[flint plover]

Rerun=/=new banners

[lyric urchin]

so basically only pull if i have Scarlet?

i don't have her, so it's a skip?

[neon cypress]

trina's clearly aimed at vets who have normal scarlet invested yeah

[harsh pumice]

Can't believe Scarlet gets a dedicated support before Isabel or Harran smh

[neon cypress]

because they are irrelevant marketing-wise

scarlet is iconic and heavily marketed

[desert fractal]

scarlet has weeb stick

the power of the weebs $$$

[ashen lantern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1070326844991225876/credit_card.png

[silent roost]

If shes a cow why does she have bear ears

[modern needle]

aren't those her birbs

[silent roost]

Shes a cow of course she has 4 birbs

[harsh pumice]

White Russian Cocktail Team:

• Milk
• Trina
• Frima
• Scarlet
• Xmas Ludmilla

Is it meta? No. But it's a fun meme team aesthetic. All the cocktail ingredients, and a Russian (or at least slavic) waifu to drink it.

[modern needle]

don't need to tell me twice

[rustic hornet]

• Need scarlet new damage comparison on neutral
• need 2b new damage comparison on neutral
• need QeQ damage comparison on element for maids Vs Trina

[rustic hornet]

Thanks guys to whoever is investing in Trina

I know PvP guys are

[tough bronze]

[visual falcon]

4/7/4 incoming

[rigid lance]

Ey, got her

[young rain]

#show-off

[rustic hornet]

who is testing

wait cant we just use base 101010 trina they give us to test

she doesnt give casters buff

[agile rapids]

only HP, but yeah not really matter

[rustic hornet]

ooh

hp matters

for 2b

man

[plain parrot]

2b only gets that 20% caster hp and 20% attack damage buff rite?

[rigid lance]

2B only do distribution dmg

So Trina's buff doesn't apply

[brazen grove]

wahts the burst gen

[rustic hornet]

3.6%

[rustic hornet]

it affects all allies

[rigid lance]

That's what distribution dmg does

Spread dmg to multiple target

Not aoe

Also, isn't there is a toggle for force sync everyone to 200 in shooting range

[void saffron]

i mean theres different kinds of distr dmg
affects all enemies
Affects enemies within attack range.

[flint plover]

K snake

[rustic hornet]

hmm i think

[plain parrot]

2b definitely getting the damage buff from trina

[rustic hornet]

lorax is right

[flint plover]

Time to cook

[rustic hornet]

2b doesnt

get buffs

from trina

i think

[flint plover]

I'm here to lurk the cook

[void saffron]

2bad

[plain parrot]

my 1/1/1 lvl 1 2b gets a 67% increase damage from a 1/1/1 trina

burst damage

[void saffron]

theres like 2 hits right

1 sdhoul be buffed

but not the other

[rustic hornet]

im not sure its being buffed

i can do the math if u want to but i dont think its worth it i dont see the big buff

i can test with qeq too

[modern needle]

prob noticing the max hp increase

[rustic hornet]

ill get ss wait

I crit the normal burst

So it's really not buffing

Dist damage

[neon cypress]

trina's actually really good in her use cases
good on purpose

[rustic hornet]

This is definitely bugged

The burst description is saying

[void saffron]

fraudrina

[rustic hornet]

"affect all enemies"

And it's not buffing

Someone should maincord it

[plain parrot]

translation issue or actual bug?

[rustic hornet]

I don't think translation issue

[onyx gate]

inb4 translation issue

[agile rapids]

~~free skill reset?? ~~

[rustic hornet]

we can check

[neon cypress]

anything goes if it's Nikke's EN

[rustic hornet]

Show QeQ JP skills

And show Trina JP skills

[void saffron]

oh wait

[modern needle]

does it work on non-dist

[neon cypress]

notice how JP never has translation issues compared to EN

[void saffron]

it has to say "burst skill dmg"

[rustic hornet]

am i blind
are we blind

i dont think so

[void saffron]

a few patches ago they changed the wording

[rustic hornet]

what the fuck reza is right

[void saffron]

in some skills

[rustic hornet]

this is the dumbest shit i have ever heard

[gentle trellis]

Classic su

[rustic hornet]

oh my god man

[void saffron]

[rustic hornet]

I am in severe disbelief

well at least they acknowledge it would be super broken for qeq and 2b

lol

[flint plover]

so no 2b stonk I think

[rustic hornet]

only scarlet stonk

[visual falcon]

[agile rapids]

ReiA didn't have it, ReiTN have it

[visual falcon]

stop rambling

how does her burst work

[tough bronze]

[rustic hornet]

she buffs burst nukes that 'affect all enemies' and also have "burst skill damage" written on them

[void saffron]

phantom garbo now

[rustic hornet]

its attack damage buff

[rustic hornet]

but only for nuke

no bug i guess

i like 2butt man revive her

[void saffron]

nier part 2 soon

[rustic hornet]

ill take it

[rigid lance]

Test on Harran lol

She also has AOE

[rustic hornet]

i tested on scarlet

it works for harran

[rigid lance]

At least they acknowledge aoe attack are not distribute or multihit

[plain parrot]

ah sad rei 1.0 doesnt get the buff

[rigid lance]

:kek

[rustic hornet]

wtf

[plain parrot]

well based on text description alone

[rigid lance]

She's MG bro

[agile rapids]

so Rei TN is the pair for PVE?

[plain parrot]

lemme actually check in practice

[rustic hornet]

no weapon thing for the buff

[void saffron]

maybe they forgot to edit her text

but it should prolly work

[rustic hornet]

lemme check

this does not feel buffed

did i crit or smthng

[plain parrot]

I'm getting a 10% burst damage damage increase?

[rustic hornet]

ok it doesnt get buffed

its only

the attack damage

[void saffron]

no way

guess they just said fuck her in particular i guess

[flint plover]

before trina who was the best buffer for scarlet?

I mean b2

xd

[plain parrot]

wait that burst skill damage buff doesnt work in pvp right?

[young rain]

blanc

or xanne

[brazen grove]

Blanc at the edge of needing treasure

[thorny sleet]

tbf, "best buffer" for midlet means also it buff a better unit than midlet

[agile rapids]

half anni electric AR incoming

[plain parrot]

siren electric ar confirmed

[brazen grove]

Please not electric ty

[neon cypress]

as if electric needs more shilling

metal dead in ditch

[fallow swallow]

We have Red Hood XD

[harsh pumice]

RapiRH is good for iron

I guess Helm Treasure has helped water a bunch

But overall water still worst imo

[onyx gate]

still no hyper carry for water

[thorny sleet]

water overall still full of mid yeah

[harsh pumice]

Especially since so many of its DPS fall off fast when boss is bad

• XLud needs core
• Emilia needs a lot of parts
• XGuillo needs a good kit

[rustic hornet]

Trina can buff AoE attacks of the following units

D
Epinel - first part
Harran
Isabel - only nuke
Maiden - first part
Mihara - first part
Noir
Privaty
Privaty: Unkind Maid
Rei Ayanami: Tenative Name
Scarlet
Soda: Twinkling Bunny
Yulha - first part

[cerulean patrol]

please do not submit that in surveys, thank you

we don't want to cultivate a community that actively ruins their own game

[rustic hornet]

stay on topic rn idk what u guys are talking about

need to discuss trina

[thorny sleet]

but hmm..is trina going to be a mainstay for non electric weak?

[flint plover]

not a fair comparison

neutral

[harsh pumice]

Until we get another decent Electric AR all Trina comps without scarlet are cope sadly

XRupee a good meme but nothing more

[rustic hornet]

can u do me a favour rq

[harsh pumice]

Maybe in future she'll be more flexible

[brazen grove]

, sg team

[young rain]

is she really clip RL?

[flint plover]

go ahead

[thorny sleet]

so i guess scarlet going to be mainstay for neutral too?

[rustic hornet]

run 2 teams

Cindy Rouge S.Anis Mari xMaiden
and
Cindy Rouge Scarlet Trina xMaiden

thanks

[flint plover]

k

[harsh pumice]

What about Kilo? Lol

[flint plover]

auto or manual?

[rustic hornet]

no

[rustic hornet]

if u have the time rn can u manual both and try to play well in both

[flint plover]

k

[rustic hornet]

some mistakes here and there are fine dont need to ultra tryhard

[harsh pumice]

Really? But she's affects all enemies?

[rustic hornet]

yeah but she doesnt have burst skill damage

[flint plover]

imma go neutral cuz my scarlet has 0 ele

[languid mirage]

Need more word
Burst skill damage too

[harsh pumice]

I see

PvP wise, would ReiT actually be a stronger nuke?

Nvm

Thought her S2 was full burst

[rustic hornet]

no

[cerulean patrol]

burst skill damage only, huh
that's a disappointing restriction

[harsh pumice]

But it's on her own burst use

[rustic hornet]

scarlet 2rl is now the goat

with trina

[harsh pumice]

Throw in treasure Helm and I feel scarlet 1.5RL should be doable tbh

[onyx gate]

check the burst gen pls

[rustic hornet]

it is not

[rustic hornet]

3.6%

[harsh pumice]

Even with this many clip RLs?

[visual falcon]

2896615 => 16821504 means she gains 480% dmg

[brazen grove]

Scarlet, moran,trina,thelm, centi

[harsh pumice]

Oof

[rustic hornet]

@kind sedge get nikkegg updated

[brazen grove]

Now i want to build moran

[hasty aurora]

why do you need moran there

[fallow swallow]

Here we go again, resource gone

[native oyster]

Multiplication?

[languid mirage]

As expected then right

[crystal cairn]

[visual falcon]

dunno, just rough test, I will think later, work time

[umbral siren]

it's still not cindy tier of dmg rip

[neon cypress]

at least with trina drunklet is officially no longer outclassed by a schoolgirl

[cerulean patrol]

still go double buff just in case
easy 2RL anyway

[rustic hornet]

cindy numbers are too big, scar nuke is still only 4000% smthng

and cindy self buffs are higher as well

but this is definitely enough to kill

[umbral siren]

but i kind of want her to be raid viable again

[fallow swallow]

So what's possible team Scarlet+Trina with

[agile rapids]

they introduce dolls and tempered cube, then they introduce Trina to offset that

[keen wasp]

Ah yes, a team combo: a birch tree and a tree killer (Scarlet cut down tree)

[cerulean patrol]

maybe not union raid
unless you save Cinderella for neutral
and Scarlet Trina for electric
but why, unless lack of options

[neon cypress]

maybe we can slot trina into cindy's usual team?
cindy/rouge/scarlet/trina/flex (maybe xmaiden)

[cerulean patrol]

definitely solo raid

relevant

[ancient raptor]

clip rl?

[neon cypress]

she's clip

pvp hoe

[onyx gate]

forgot all this number shit

[ancient raptor]

must pull

[onyx gate]

have you seen the tits ?

[fallow swallow]

What abput PvP

[onyx gate]

4 of them on her head

[visual falcon]

Give me some Crow-tits

[plain parrot]

scarlet redhood trina centi jackal galore

[cerulean patrol]

what else can you see besides those

took up all my view

[plain parrot]

still blocked by the usual noah/bay team

[visual falcon]

yep

[neon cypress]

I crave milkshake from the source itself brotha

[rustic hornet]

No we can remove jackal now

[visual falcon]

I was gonna argue that but I will keep the cook myself

[agile rapids]

scarjack counter damage is still too good to pass for me

[tough bronze]

Or do Scarlet-Trina-Rosanna-xAnne-Jackal

[visual falcon]

Scar jack counter works because of SG

not because of Jackal

[fallow swallow]

What XAnne purpose?

[thorny sleet]

why xanne?

[young rain]

scarjack is what's stopping a2 from being stonks

[thorny sleet]

lol

[plain parrot]

scarjack works better on attack since defending sg shoots p5

[young rain]

that 6x scarlet s2 in one a2 slash

[cerulean patrol]

wait why

[agile rapids]

wait, can Scar-TRina-Rosanna-ClipRL-Jackal works as 2RL now?

[young rain]

a2 can trigger scarlet's s2 6 times with jackal link

[plain parrot]

on defense, jackal can definitely be taken out without much issue

[young rain]

per attack

[tough bronze]

The goal is to kill enemy p1 and proc Rosanna's s2, xAnne is there for insurance in case Scarlet still gets killed. But Rosanna s2 proc still remains

With a boosted Burst 1 as icing on the cake

[bright notch]

wen xanne rerun

[neon cypress]

neva eva, you missed your loli 4eva

[plain parrot]

next christmas lol

tho she's definitely getting less usage nowadays

[flint plover]

@rustic hornet

[cerulean patrol]

expected

[fallow swallow]

Interesting
I think Scarlet, paired with Jackal+tempering will not easy to kill though

[plain parrot]

scarlet + trina will probably be on a separate comp from that result

[thorny sleet]

tho, if trina scar against each other, it's basically who burst first win

[cerulean patrol]

who can use Jackal as effectively as Scarlet tho
we're not exactly running out of clip RL in SP

[ancient raptor]

she not better buffer than mari?

[visual falcon]

what if you run Scarlet Rouge Cindy Trina + etc

[young rain]

scarlet can't die with trina's protection. trina gives scarlet 2s of invul at the start
with 2RL speed, that's enough

[cerulean patrol]

the B3 are different, not just B2

[plain parrot]

trina buffs mostly 1 electric ar with burst aoe skill

[visual falcon]

does this require Scarlet to be P1?

[plain parrot]

nah

[cerulean patrol]

small question
try again with Scarlet on P1 in Trina comp

[plain parrot]

still works as long as she's the leftmost ar

[thorny sleet]

can rosanna erase her invul?

[modern hamlet]

trina is so good !
https://youtube.com/shorts/j-NCprsEO2k?si=XrwRy8QB7yP72x4h

[visual falcon]

alright

[flint plover]

No, busy rn sorry

Try yourself

I gotta go

[visual falcon]

can, it will happen after first rl

no way you can kill Scarlet within next RL

[modern needle]

she did like nothing there

[visual falcon]

and with 2 RL she burst

[plain parrot]

scarlet in p3 still getting the buff

[visual falcon]

2nd FB

[modern needle]

you were getting it with nero anyway

[tough bronze]

There's no need for xAnne then, in that case

[thorny sleet]

hmm

[cerulean patrol]

how? bug?

[tough bronze]

[plain parrot]

nope, fits the skill description

[visual falcon]

left most

[young rain]

probably not bugged, just that if there's 2 electric AR

[visual falcon]

doesn't mean p1

[plain parrot]

leftmost

[flint plover]

Leftmost side

[young rain]

it picks leftmost

[flint plover]

AR

[visual falcon]

if you are left, time to protest the right

[flint plover]

Imma drive and talk

[flint plover]

[thorny sleet]

she's still leftmost if she's still the only one that fits the bill, even if you put it on p5

[tough bronze]

[cerulean patrol]

don't die, deadass

[flint plover]

Anyway huge increase for scarlet

Also time to build scarlet again

[modern hamlet]

lmao, u mean second jackal didnt do anything

[flint plover]

With 4 atk 4 ele 4 ammo

[rustic hornet]

Wow

[modern needle]

you could literally replace her with a clip rl and it wouldn't have changed anything

[rustic hornet]

@flint plover where is

The damage comparison

[rustic hornet]

Fuck

Why is anis better man

[flint plover]

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[thorny sleet]

glad i never reset her ever since launch

[flint plover]

Cuz anis is buffing xmaiden and cindy

[rustic hornet]

Can you do another run with

Cinderella Rouge S.Anis Trina Scarlet

Pls

[flint plover]

Driving

[rustic hornet]

Alright

[agile rapids]

Anis to electric team is just the big steroid

[flint plover]

Yeah reason why I wanted to try another comp

[neon cypress]

did we bag trina in bond?

[flint plover]

Trina is only buffing midlet

And siren

[modern needle]

smol buff for cindy and other units

but losing mari buff and sanis buff ain't worth

[thorny sleet]

tbh, i think it's cindy that needs to be booted and see if sanis or scarlet that is better secondary dps

[flint plover]

Yeah Trina doesn't join in Cindy comp

[neon cypress]

my fucking god if siren fits the bill then people will hurt themselves forever missing out

[tough bronze]

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[thorny sleet]

cindy is simply unmatched

[cerulean patrol]

comparison, you got one comp

[modern needle]

it already happened with rouge

[rustic hornet]

75% of Cindy = mid

[plain parrot]

I'm not sure if trina herself is actually doing anything other than being a battery for this comp lol

[neon cypress]

rouge is different tbh
if you miss out a cdr unit, you only have yourself to blame

[ancient raptor]

144 enough for pvp?

[modern needle]

the actual trina stall comp I wanna see is moran + trina + helmt

[tough bronze]

Oh , what other comp you want me to compare with? Mari instead of Trina?

[safe jewel]

how's things cooking so far?

[modern needle]

I wanna see if moran can solo

[flint plover]

And no xmaiden cuz Cindy comp is losing DMG overall, no good

[neon cypress]

someone go to NGA and export their cooks

[safe jewel]

[flint plover]

Have you got exiaT?

[glass summit]

Nothing on NGA for pvp at least

[tough bronze]

Only 4-4-4

[plain parrot]

It will also mean scarlet getting benched again lol

[modern hamlet]

trina can heal nero , and get cat's rapayment also this team need a battery , otherwise will be too slow

[cerulean patrol]

the best I can do is 6 hours later off work

[safe jewel]

[modern hamlet]

her burst gen is better than jackal

i cant understand why people think trina aka second jackal doing nothing

[vital helm]

trina vs crown for scarlet, kind of nuts

[plain parrot]

She's not doing enough to stand out

[agile rapids]

my only problem with using her on PVP was, she is tanking the team CP because uninvested and bad OL

[plain parrot]

Not sure if she's even healing enough for nero

[safe jewel]

sounds like she is better then gym girl

as battery

[plain parrot]

for burst gen, negligible comparing to jackal

[cerulean patrol]

as long as she procs revenge, good enough

[plain parrot]

while she's definitely better, I think using another battery for that video would have gotten the same result

[flint plover]

Ok can you cook this pls
Crown Ein Sanis rapiH xmaiden
Scarlet Trina Sanis RapiH HelmT

[modern needle]

half of the fight, same amount of bursts between cindy and sanis/scar

result between sanis vs scar bursting actually not that big

[tough bronze]

Aight brb

[flint plover]

[rustic hornet]

yeah but sanis maiden is hgiher damage

[modern needle]

doing neutral, lemme try that

[rustic hornet]

pins

new ingame survey

wtf

no one told anyone

oh wait its old one

why did it ahve red dot

[fallow swallow]

i think not only survey have a red dot

[onyx gate]

same thing as when you login the game from mobile to pc

coop get red dot

but you already did your 3 run

[visual falcon]

so I can blame SU again?

[rustic hornet]

its skippable unit

[plain parrot]

can't take the survey again

[rustic hornet]

it wont be big loss unless u pvp

[modern needle]

well... it's not that far off

[fallow swallow]

well i am pvp

[plain parrot]

siren electric ar guys lol

[onyx gate]

hi pvp im gachi_is_back

[modern needle]

had to spend 5 extra sec here due to lower gen, mari burst is only 7, xmaiden didn't burst since half fight

[visual falcon]

I prefer Cindy Rouge Scarlet Trina Crown/Mari

so Cindy burst goes with Mari

[modern needle]

[visual falcon]

Scarlet burst goes with Trina

who cares about Xmaiden

[rustic hornet]

oh

yeah thats the diff then

burst xmidden and u win

[modern needle]

I don't think the mari burst diff is enough

just run sanis instead of mari

[rustic hornet]

casters hp

buff

mlb is enuf tbh lb0 is enuf

for this unit

[plain parrot]

standard unit, lb0 unless you are whale

[modern needle]

it's prob cause the trina I'm using is half the sync... but trina rouge can't keep scar topped up, full fight scar prob gets below 10%

[onyx gate]

when was the last time dupe is even recommended for non pilgrim non limited unit ?

[rustic hornet]

i think this unit is skippable

[agile rapids]

will using double b2 works better? like using Trina exclusively to Scarlet and the other b2 Mari/Grave for the other b3?

[rustic hornet]

unless pvp enjpyer

[tough bronze]

Btw, do I burst with Scarlet here?

[rustic hornet]

mimi

are u on

[tough bronze]

yes

[flint plover]

Sanis helmT

[fallow swallow]

Is it?

[rustic hornet]

is ur asukaW built

[tough bronze]

Just full OL 4-4-4 atm

[rustic hornet]

hmm nvm then ig

[tough bronze]

her substats are bad atm

[rustic hornet]

well we can just wait for skyjlv

im pretty sure hes testing rn

i think for me trina is a solid unit for electric raids

but she wont see use in non electric raids

but also she will see use in pvp

so unless pvp and electric raids are ur thing

this is an easy skip and wishlist

[void saffron]

ye

[onyx gate]

she will be a core unit in CA that much is certain

[plain parrot]

trina clip

[rustic hornet]

yes trina is clip

trina is above anis in burst gen i believe

[onyx gate]

some guy said Trina has higher burst gen than Jackal

[plain parrot]

trina is slightly above jackal

tho negligible differences

[onyx gate]

i'm just gonna quote you

[cerulean patrol]

60 and nothing

forced to skip

[fallow swallow]

forced to pay

[visual falcon]

40 and I have both Trina + Paris

[cerulean patrol]

got missilis and turned Liter dupe

cope

[visual falcon]

yeah until your pvp ops get your ass to Diamond

[plain parrot]

nah waiting hurts a lot

[visual falcon]

[plain parrot]

took a goddamn long time before I got blanc when I forgot to pull her

[rustic hornet]

if anyone asks is she good tell them to check pins

[cerulean patrol]

I'm chilling in dia3 with 2k gems
I'm good

[fallow swallow]

them to check pins

[visual falcon]

stop chilling

I'm shilling

[rustic hornet]

where is scarlet math

gimme scarlet math

[visual falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/palm-open-hand-gesture-gif-23435266

here

[rustic hornet]

[safe jewel]

SCARLET METH

good one

[visual falcon]

call me Methu sellah

[maiden kestrel]

scar helmT trina rosanna jackal
and my scar not linked

[visual falcon]

[flint plover]

P5 is saved

[rustic hornet]

what is the total damage

[flint plover]

Also P4 now

Fuck ein

[rustic hornet]

p4?

[flint plover]

[safe jewel]

what is CA

[fallow swallow]

Champion Arena

[visual falcon]

Trina means you should run B1 B2 B2 B3 B3

[tough bronze]

Canada

[flint plover]

Only wanted to see scar and ein in those comps

[rustic hornet]

@visual falcon send me 500 gems for a sync slot

[kind sedge]

What do you want

[rustic hornet]

trina

skills

[visual falcon]

here

[rustic hornet]

scaling

[safe jewel]

i have no skill book and no gem no mats thanks to eva

[cold plover]

@rustic hornet get asuka and rei threads updated

[agile rapids]

waiting for busted b2 to pair with Trina-Scarlet

[rustic hornet]

ooh

yeah ill do that

[flint plover]

Ein having the advantage but midlet doing good output

[visual falcon]

don't, they are gone, forever

time to delete

[flint plover]

Time to build midlet

[kind sedge]

I'll think about it

[rustic hornet]

thanks for reminder

[rustic hornet]

[oblique vortex]

That's me since maids duo

[rustic hornet]

trina btw

[kind sedge]

What the hell

[agile rapids]

yeah, pvp SSS already

[rustic hornet]

yo chill

SS

[flint plover]

Basically pull Trina or quit electric solo raid

[rustic hornet]

she is battery + buffer but only for one unit

so she cant be sss

[flint plover]

[rustic hornet]

she is also heale

r

[tough bronze]

[fallow swallow]

Why i have feeling Shift Up will rarely make an easy skip Nikke after 2ndanniv
This is the first time i have no resource for anything

[rustic hornet]

lol this guy said since anniv

maybe 1st anniv

uhuh

[fallow swallow]

2nd anniv

[rustic hornet]

mustve felt nice not having mana last raid

[tough bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/wade-barrett-bad-news-stu-bennett-wwe-afraid-gif-12278340

[agile rapids]

I miss it when shift up release a Trony level unit

[flint plover]

Siren kit: any time she's healed she gain 284838% of dmg

[rustic hornet]

time to make 2 2rl teams rq and ruin my pvp bracket

[flint plover]

AR electric

[fallow swallow]

Not really, Mana really helpful in last Raid

[thorny sleet]

well..there's flora not long ago

[tough bronze]

Flora's missing a teammate

[thorny sleet]

her squadmate ntr her for a drunk swordwoman instead

[flint plover]

Flowho?

[fallow swallow]

That's why i said it's really hard to skip any unit
Most Nikke recently at least decent for Raid or PvP
For casual of course everything is skippable

[tough bronze]

She's stuck with a sleepyhead, a student, and a Nikke with a hero complex 😭

[agile rapids]

yeah, that was a good one, but we need more

[visual falcon]

should be this I think

better Jackal is real

[safe jewel]

pull

[flint plover]

Where xmaiden in that list?

[safe jewel]

no ask

[flint plover]

[visual falcon]

below Noah

[flint plover]

Ok

[tough bronze]

She's Aussie?

[safe jewel]

she is pretty slow, like laplace before treasure but a bit faster i think

[wind jungle]

I have good news for you

you are casual

[keen wasp]

30 pulls, Liter and Maxwell... trash dupes as my NIKKE are core 7

[safe jewel]

i'm gonna submit a post saying PVP SSS & see if i get 100 gem

[keen wasp]

[safe jewel]

nah we still had flora, phamtom etc

technically eva is more for pve so i only have 1 copy

[flint plover]

Damn bro can skip trina

[tough bronze]

Burns free 10 tickets
Gets Purple....oops! It's a fake out!
Missilis Logo appears
Trony

[flint plover]

But no segs Trina, skip

[safe jewel]

pvper can't skip

[visual falcon]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/131176763?category=정보&p=1

[flint plover]

I'm top 1 can I skip her?

[safe jewel]

but i wasted lots mat on rumani

[keen wasp]

Me seeing two Missilis Logos

[fallow swallow]

More like i am not whale
C'mon, that Collab Raid skill doesn't matter
It's invesment test

[keen wasp]

[safe jewel]

i need skill reset books

shift up should get a way to retrive some gears from character you no longer use. even if it's really hard to obtain

[fallow swallow]

I thought both of them before 2nd anniv

[modern needle]

during my painful 90 pulls, I got signal and epinel....

so basically got nothing

[thorny sleet]

reset a nikke

few month later got treasure that is meta breaking

can't be me

[safe jewel]

btw when is 2.5 aniversary?? next month?

[rustic hornet]

damn i cooked 😭

[weary gorge]

not top 3 smh

[visual falcon]

8 and 13

what is it

child play

[rustic hornet]

[modern needle]

well what happened

[agile rapids]

noah happened

[void saffron]

i think snake lost

[safe jewel]

my server top 6 are all🐳 so i just chill at 7-10, technically i can go bother them but i can't defend against them.

[rustic hornet]

no i won

[flint plover]

2,5rl scar vs 3rl Noah

[rustic hornet]

but this team lost

[oblique vortex]

The bug?

[rustic hornet]

because scarlet died

no bug

scarlet died

[plain parrot]

lmao

[rustic hornet]

interesting

[flint plover]

Jackal then?

[rustic hornet]

even with 2 sec invuln

[modern needle]

yeah that invuln is basically worthless

[rustic hornet]

no i literally won

[modern needle]

it blocks a single rl hit

[plain parrot]

thats a 2rl team rite

[rustic hornet]

the enemy laplace one shot my scarlet basically

[visual falcon]

dunno how Scarlet died with 1 RL

[rustic hornet]

it took away 80% of hp

[oblique vortex]

well, that was expected

[safe jewel]

that sounds like your not eating enough cores

[modern needle]

are you cp diffed or something

[visual falcon]

^

Laplace can deal around 300% ATK per shot

[rustic hornet]

one cp in top 5

[visual falcon]

and Scarlet has 2250% ATK as HP

[fluid jolt]

Power of hero

[plain parrot]

was it cp dif then?

[flint plover]

Now hit eyera

[safe jewel]

get him, that's ultra low cp for top 6

[rustic hornet]

it was also under cp deficit, yeah but only like very very slightly borderline

[visual falcon]

to make 300% becomes 2250%, you need like 600% ele lol

[rustic hornet]

Only have 2 attacks a day

[plain parrot]

probably dont wanna mess with scarlet survival without jackal if that's the case lol

[rustic hornet]

This was just a good test for 2 seconds invuln

[rustic hornet]

Well there are 4 other nikkes hitting

[plain parrot]

got vid?

[rustic hornet]

No I closed game

[plain parrot]

gg

[fallow swallow]

Seem i really need to Treasure Laplace

[flint plover]

Nah

[mossy karma]

I maxed her and I only end up using her in tower LMO

[cerulean patrol]

that 2sec was never about blocking damage during showdown
it was obvious even before release

[mossy karma]

Might reset her next yime

[plain parrot]

you dont have to, but its a good choice if you got nothing else to treasure or sr15 your doll

[fallow swallow]

i guess not

Drake maybe should i treasure first
She seem really useful for raid

[plain parrot]

ye drake better

there's only 1 helm

[fallow swallow]

Imagine there's two

[oblique vortex]

Maybe she could survive without CP pad

[plain parrot]

the other helm sucks at pvp

[proper wagon]

confirmed that this is in the damage up frame

[visual falcon]

Attack Damage?

or Damage Taken?

[proper wagon]

Damage Up

= X Damage Up

[young rain]

multiply by 5.356 then?

[visual falcon]

another multiplier?

[proper wagon]

no

[oblique vortex]

6,5 if we include trona's s2 and burst

[proper wagon]

Damage Up frame = all effects that say "X damage up" (exception: distributed damage up)

[cerulean patrol]

so weakness damage

[wintry crystal]

RIP?

Burst nuke damage can be classified as Burst Skill Damage or Distributed Damage.

So Distributed Damage disqualifies it. Inadequate Trina effect description

[fallow swallow]

I guess this is the way?

[young rain]

rh b1

[fallow swallow]

Maybe i should switch Emilia with Centi

[visual falcon]

when I tested with Phantom, she doesn't gain dmg from Trina's burst so it shouldn't affect Distributed dmg

[proper wagon]

"weakness damage" is like an incredibly old name for this frame because it doesn't make any sense, it's just known as "damage up" now because almost everything that says "<insert thing here> damage up" is in it (again, the one exception is distributed damage)

[tough bronze]

[visual falcon]

so it's Attack Damage

[proper wagon]

bro

[visual falcon]

like Tia's S1

or Helm's S2

[modern needle]

btw what do they mean by gacha collection system without num attributes

[proper wagon]

ffs I'm going to spell this out

[fallow swallow]

Why they can just simplify the skill description

[cerulean patrol]

saying "damage up except distributed damage" isn't better

[cerulean patrol]

you don't have to
we already know
just semantics at this point

[young rain]

so is this 778% nuke added by 435.6%?
or multiplied by 4.356? 5.356?

[visual falcon]

multiplied

because it's different multiplier

also it goes like

778.38% x (1 + 435.6%)

think of it as Attack Damage but for burst only

[young rain]

yea so it's x 5.356

[visual falcon]

[onyx gate]

imagine Cindy burst affect all unit instead of 10 shot like now

[fallow swallow]

is it greater than XAnne buff?

[visual falcon]

which is it?

[fallow swallow]

For Scarlet PvP

[visual falcon]

it doesn't work in PVP

in PVP you rely on her S2

which gives 95% Attack Damage

think of Blanc but triple amount

[fallow swallow]

The question still remain, is it greater than XAnne?

[visual falcon]

xAnne only gives like 70% ATK right?

[young rain]

xanne is just flat atk

[visual falcon]

how can it beat 95% Attack Damage?

[cerulean patrol]

yes
XAnne just further buffs ATK
Trina is another bracket

obvious from the start

[fallow swallow]

It's time to reset her skill alright

[agile rapids]

+another 20% on burst

[cerulean patrol]

at this point it's +- with Blanc depending if you want zombie

[young rain]

how many s1 stacks can scarlet get in 2 RL?

2?

[modern needle]

trina should buff a bit more than blanc + rh combined

[young rain]

1?

[modern needle]

so xanne + any b1 has no chance

[agile rapids]

so for now xanne benefit probably if scarlet got sniped by rosanna before bursting

[proper wagon]

Actual Damage = (Final_ATK - Final_DEF) * (1 + Damage_Up%) * (1 + Damage_Taken%) * Skill_Multiplier * (1 + Multiplier%) * (Charge%) * (1 + Bonuses) * (1.1 + Element% if on element)

Damage Up Frame:

• Attack Damage Up
• Part Damage Up
• Attachment Damage Up
• Interruption Parts Damage Up
• Pierce Damage Up
• Projectile Damage Up
• Burst Skill Damage Up
• <My very specific attack> Damage Up
• <Almost every word here that isn't "distributed" or in bonuses> Damage Up
  Damage Taken Frame:
• Anything that says Damage Taken
• Distributed Damage Up
  Bonuses:
• Full Burst
• Effective Range
• Crit damage
• Core Damage

[fallow swallow]

Which i guess still useful for defense

[modern needle]

only use I see for xanne is in a revive reit nuke for champ

[visual falcon]

3

[cerulean patrol]

12 shots per sec
should be 2~3 stacks

[fallow swallow]

If Champion Arena use 5 team, which i hope not, XAnne maybe still has use

[visual falcon]

10 shots per sec, but sec in PVP is meaningless

[cerulean patrol]

right, 30fps limit

mb

[proper wagon]

almost everything that says "Damage ▲" is in the "damage up" frame

[visual falcon]

2 RL scar will have 3 stacks only because 3.16 she releases her burst

but 3.24 she has the 4th stack

[tough bronze]

30 pulls

[modern needle]

I was told destruction cube is same bracket as ele, was I lied to

[tough bronze]

just Trony

[young rain]

wait that’s p big

[visual falcon]

you are lied to

[young rain]

69% atk buff at 2RL

[visual falcon]

Destruction cube belongs to Attack Damage group, but work for part only

[modern needle]

smh these liars

[visual falcon]

may be they mean the ele dmg buff

that indeed belongs to Ele

[modern needle]

[rustic hornet]

Scarlet's s2 can be pretty pog with trina ngl

we need a blanc but in b1 or b3

[proper wagon]

Destruction Cube says "Part Damage ▲". This is why we call it, the "Damage ▲" frame

most things that says <X> Damage ▲ are in the damage up frame

[modern needle]

or just use a non-bursting trina whose entire job is to pseudo replace jackal by letting p1 unlinked scar live long enough to indom

that's her only interesting def usage with scar imo

the other one is god moran

[rustic hornet]

non burst trina does not buff scar

[neon cypress]

I love that most people think she's good but don't know how good

[visual falcon]

that's quite waste, since Trina S2 and burst are pretty good

[modern needle]

she's just there for invuln

otherwise your scar is just unprotected, trina or not won't matter if they bay or noah it

[visual falcon]

if you only protect Scarlet from 1 RL, yike

[modern needle]

so she doesn't change anything unless they somehow relied on tanking through your unprotected scar previously

[rustic hornet]

i think as long as the opponents dont run 4 ele centi laplace into your scar, youll be fine

[modern needle]

or honestly, her best usage, and probably most practical

is to be the b2 burster on 2rl cindy teams, to use noah elsewhere

[rustic hornet]

also we keep talking about scarlet but

[modern needle]

replacing noah/centi slot, can even replace noise slot

[rustic hornet]

moran trina

is a very serious team

[modern needle]

moran trina helm

[tough bronze]

[rustic hornet]

dont even need helm

[modern needle]

add in the extra lifesteal

[rustic hornet]

but yeah

[modern needle]

I wanna see if it can outlast indom scar

[wintry crystal]

Since effectively it barely matters for pvp Scarlet, I think it's logical to look at what Trina can do for a team with others

[tough bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-here-i-realize-gif-24728653

[cerulean patrol]

Moran Trina SAnis?
leave Biscuit with another team

[visual falcon]

anis = Trina

[cerulean patrol]

is that milk

[fallow swallow]

Is that Milk

[visual falcon]

[modern needle]

I don't see it making much of a diff, team dies during invuln period to unbuffed bscar anyway

[rustic hornet]

[cerulean patrol]

bro cooked so hard it's yogurt now

[visual falcon]

this forces Noah Biscuit else you are not able to kill Lifesteal Scarlet with 115% Attack Damage and 115% ATK

and if you run Noah Biscuit here

what do you run on other 2?

Cindy?

try bay against Cindy

[modern needle]

scar isn't lifestealing when team is immune

[rustic hornet]

i made this for now

2 2rl teams

1 3rl blanc biscuit

[visual falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/well-in-that-case-yo-mama-well-case-gif-14405034452477075435

[modern needle]

[rustic hornet]

just go for purely damage based 2rl team

[visual falcon]

[agile rapids]

does that cindy team guaranteed to win everytime? comp looks really stacked

[modern needle]

well now you prob let them run a 2rl buffed bscar

due to noise

[fallow swallow]

Is THelm really essentsial on Scarlet team? i place her on Cinderella team right now

[cerulean patrol]

why not swap Rumani and Jackal

[rustic hornet]

no team is winning everytime

[modern needle]

helmt is fairly worthless on scar team

[rustic hornet]

cp

[modern needle]

unless running blanc rh helmt triple buff indom, that could make a diff

[visual falcon]

Cindy team is easy blocked by 3 RL Noah

[agile rapids]

ah by that I mean on the condition of same CP and no noah

[modern needle]

buff cindy enough so she 1 taps

[rustic hornet]

that is a very weird question

[modern needle]

should be able to land at least 4 hits before immune kicks in

[rustic hornet]

but i have noise cindy so big pp buffs for cindy

trust

[fallow swallow]

I use this

[cerulean patrol]

no way Noise Cinderella don't kill, unless blocked

[modern needle]

noise/trina/rumani/cindy/helmt double buff cindy

[cerulean patrol]

moreover, HelmTr S2

[modern needle]

helmt doesn't buff cindy nuke

[cerulean patrol]

it should

[modern needle]

cindy nuke snapshots

all full burst effects don't apply to the main hits

immune used to not apply either if cindy casted it before immune

they had to fix that, bleh, lame

I'm thinking of just using trina as buffer for cindy, then running 3 other clip rls or equiv, so a 2rl cindy that doesn't use helmt

and use helmt to speed up a diff comp

[fallow swallow]

2.5 RL not so bad i gues
Anis=Trina

[safe jewel]

i don't know how that team is gonna stay alive before scarlet drop

[modern needle]

trina buff should be bigger than noise buff for cindy

[cerulean patrol]

I only discover the snapshot thing after S.Sakura
mb

[safe jewel]

i saw this on NGA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072128637421240372/1349651931714289704/Image_1741852133790.png?ex=67d3e0cf&is=67d28f4f&hm=f9857f65d9772b35799cdc8a9014410decc7125a97325c38ec029a9b82c2587d&

[cerulean patrol]

that's so lame

[modern needle]

noise's max hp buff is surprisingly worthless

[safe jewel]

1 scarlet = 3 scarlet now for pve *during 3 minutes

😂

[modern needle]

seems about right

[safe jewel]

i love how ppl use scarlet as power unit

how strong is she, bro 2.5 scarlet

[modern needle]

need to find a new unit to gauge mid dps, unless we keep using non-trina scar

[cerulean patrol]

Modernia is a safe benchmark for 2025

[modern needle]

honestly ppl should prepare for the end of 3rl noah comps

like what's the point of that if 2rl scar trina becomes popular

just nukes your noah comp anyway

[fallow swallow]

Rip

[modern needle]

the og stall sanis is so dead it's not even funny

noise/noah/biscuit/sanis/rapu

reit prob could wipe that

now scar definitely can

[fallow swallow]

It's time to go back to zombie team?

[modern needle]

and ppl know to use scar against it as well, the most common counter

[agile rapids]

incoming SP Arena using 3 2RL teams

[rustic hornet]

Trina is a good addition to pvp

[oblique vortex]

Stage 9 mirror container clear with scarlet Trina when?

[rustic hornet]

i like

[modern needle]

Make sure to tell ppl to skip so they can save for c7 siren

[rustic hornet]

yeah this unit is skippable tho

[modern needle]

If champ comes out soon I want to have easier time

[rustic hornet]

[fallow swallow]

Maybe this team actually good

[oblique vortex]

I'll pull and mileage if fail

Surely they won't drop 2 anni units, right?

[modern needle]

Yeah watch it be 4

[harsh pumice]

Watch it be Siren, Hansel, Gretel, Welfare Chime

[agile rapids]

OverSpec Anis Neon says hello

[fallow swallow]

Super Spy Neon

[proper wagon]

@rustic hornetdo you know what is trina's burst gen multiplier?

don't feel like waiting for blablalink to update to look at the json

[fallow swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348936199821070407/1349648410327908455/image.png?ex=67d3dd88&is=67d28c08&hm=0431372ba1aefa6e31cf5e8ca40f1090b06a4b4a881fb06204d5b2b25d95ce2a&

[keen tendon]

[proper wagon]

okay so 3.6% per hit then

[rustic hornet]

yes

[rustic hornet]

blabla has burst gen info?

[proper wagon]

it's in the payloads

[rustic hornet]

lol

[proper wagon]

when you load a nikke page there's a common URL it grabs for the json to display it, which is basically the same as the json that's datamined for each character

[rustic hornet]

whenever a new unit is out, u can just check kosmiu's pvp sheet btw he usually updates it the fastest

[proper wagon]

if you inspect it you can find all the weapon information

[rustic hornet]

good to know

[proper wagon]

again it's basically the exact same info as the datamined stuff that you're mentioning

it's just that the URL is publically accessable with a GET so I changed to doing that