[Mast: Romantic Maid] New Unit Megathread

[simple walrus]

SBS dedicated B1 where?

[crisp scaffold]

Yan treasure in June

[simple walrus]

Brid Yan and rupee

Bonus dolla

[forest glade]

Ma gurl rupee needs a treasure

Not saying cuz I’m biased

[lusty fiber]

If 100% reload combo. Do I need to find ammo line for sbs?

[spiral solstice]

Crown Helm alr beats it...

[crisp scaffold]

For speed? Doubt

Grave/Crown would be faster than Crowm/Helm

[crystal chasm]

[spiral solstice]

Wtf sir

[crystal chasm]

fixing sheet

may be more or less

but Helm is so high now

probably the strongest water dps now no matter what

[unkempt swan]

that's a low bar tho

how does she compare to other dps, each in their own ele adv

[crystal chasm]

actually high because beating Xlud is very hard you know

still, Xlud can run okay as off burst

[unkempt swan]

how much does she beat xlud by

[crystal chasm]

Helm dps off burst is meme

dunno, I'm still in Cinderella sheet

gotta fix them one by one cuz I change too much structures

[idle kestrel]

the fuck is that emote

[crystal chasm]

[crystal chasm]

finally finished with Rouge

but yeah, she gives Cinderella huge ass dmg lol

[lapis lynx]

Isn't Quency a better water DPS than XLud? Support stuff aside?

I feel like that's the bar to compare to right?

[crystal chasm]

nah

QEQ deals lower dmg than Xlud

core or no core

[wild elm]

cap my endgame damage screen says otherwise

[crystal chasm]

have you divided your QEQ dmg by 112%

[wild elm]

sound like fake news from some website

i only trust my endgame damage

[crystal chasm]

Blessed are those who have not seen, and have yet believed.

[wild elm]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-note-the-office-gif-6207136

[haughty coral]

Is this in the game or just meme?

[amber saffron]

@crystal chasm

Can u calculate mast's dps

She has 100% reload speed

So she needs 4 atk 4 ele

[crystal chasm]

mast is not DPS

never

MG with 60% hit rate debuff

[amber saffron]

Why

Just remove core

💢

[crystal chasm]

in that case she's weaker Guillotine

[amber saffron]

No way she's weaker than guillo

She has 100% reload speed

[crystal chasm]

then way

we can mimic 100% reload speed on Guillo too

[amber saffron]

Is she equal to rem

[crystal chasm]

ah Rem

[amber saffron]

Check comparison to rem

[crystal chasm]

kinda but better cuz she never winds up

[simple walrus]

Damn we are back comparing Rem dps

[carmine sable]

gonna put rem on cindy team

[simple walrus]

[timid iris]

Huh my qeq has lower investment than xLud but qeq beats xLud always

[crystal chasm]

by putting them together right?

[timid iris]

Yup ofc

[crystal chasm]

now let's read Xlud S1

[timid iris]

I know her debuff

[crystal chasm]

then divide QEQ dmg by 112%

[simple walrus]

SU just comfirmed material H

this boss qte is different

[timid iris]

Doesnt everyone use them together?

[simple walrus]

I guess you dont need a properly water unit

[crystal chasm]

my statement is Xlud DPS > QEQ

never said together Xlud > QEQ

[timid iris]

Good one

Gotta test that myself too xD

[crystal chasm]

it's like when Xlud was released, people couldn't believe Modernia had lower dmg than her. So they put them together to test

[simple walrus]

xd

[crystal chasm]

remind me of when Mod was released, they tested her against Scarlet who wiped the entire stage while Mod had 30 FPS

[simple walrus]

damn inflated midlet dmg was insane xd

[timid iris]

With sync 383, my xLud with 94% elem 10-8-10 deals 800 mil. And Qeq with 66% elem 6-7-7 deals 1.4bil thats why i thought always qeq is stronger lol

[simple walrus]

fps issues

big big fps issues

[crystal chasm]

run on neutral, and that is definitely huge diff

[simple walrus]

lol

[crystal chasm]

if your xlud deals 50% of QEQ dmg, that's other problem

[simple walrus]

your qeq is doing almost x2 xlud dmg

[crystal chasm]

a 1.6b xlud and 1.4b QEQ are normal ratio

[timid iris]

Yep thats why i always thought qeq is much stronger. Ive even let others test at my acc was same result

[simple walrus]

30 fps pc

[crystal chasm]

but I could be wrong. My sheet has thousands of bugs when I improve it

[timid iris]

Others too

Around 4 people include me

[crystal chasm]

anyway, no way QEQ deals 100% dmg of Xlud. Most of meta DPS are within 20% range

when we said X > Y, normally it's 4 ~ 5% diff

[simple walrus]

and rapiH?

[timid iris]

Yep that difference is weird dunno why it is like that

[crystal chasm]

dunno about Rapipi, finally reach her sheet

only Drake and Soda left cuz I hide a lot of sheets

who has time to fix every sheets

just delete/hide boring ones

[simple walrus]

rapipi vs cindy

neutral

[timid iris]

Also @crystal chasm to confirm it in a bit.
When i shoot in shooting range.

Quency alt perma hit core.

xLud not really

Could it be something with that?

[crystal chasm]

human error can affect result a bit but wont be that big

[timid iris]

Even auto full aim

[crystal chasm]

auto will nerf QEQ instead

Xlud won't be

[timid iris]

Still she hit perma core but xLud not really

Its kinda weird lol thats why im looking what could be the reason

Hmmm 1.5b with qeq and 1.1b with xLud full auto. With sync 388 now.

[spiral solstice]

Qeq damage has been lower than xlud

But if there is no core, qq will likely win

Winning from burst damage

[spiral solstice]

Are you dumb

[spiral solstice]

Are you dumb

You are comparing against someone with attacker stat + nearly 100% attacker's stat that has nuke in burst?

Bro you have the most questionable cooks and hypotheses

[spiral solstice]

Mast is obviously better lmao

What are these useless comparisons

Its like asking

Is Alice better than Mod

The only comparison that matters is Crown Naga versus Maids

[forest glade]

We need another fucking week till anchor drops

To test maids

https://tenor.com/view/your-subscription-to-life-has-expired-gif-5114626920572318734

[timid iris]

Yep . Maybe we can already with shooting range??

[cursive drift]

They work together, so you need both to properly testing them

[crisp scaffold]

Yeah, but what NATSU is saying is that we can probably use Anchor in Shooting Range early

Rapi was available before her banner, right?

Or was she just in Nikkepedia

[spiral solstice]

Was just

[simple walrus]

She wasn't

[crisp scaffold]

Ah, RIP

[simple walrus]

I perfectly remember cuz we wanted to see if her RL and splash hit the core

At the end only her RL atk hits the core, splash don't

[simple walrus]

And yeah we couldn't test cuz she wasn't available in shooting range

so a week of bricked mast

[crisp scaffold]

I'm still gonna mess around

I don't expect Mast to deal that much damage, so her getting stunned isn't actually that big of a deal

[simple walrus]

Mast+clay

To make mast immune to her debuff

surely clay in the rotation is a mess

[forest glade]

I was like who the fuck is saying this shit and then I see it’s you facundo

https://tenor.com/view/alright-carry-on-continue-resume-keep-going-gif-16771637

[fleet onyx]

wtf mast banner isn't open in midnight??

[crisp scaffold]

It's the normal time for patches

[fleet onyx]

fuck

[hollow vector]

We are going to steal all the Masts before you can get a chance to pull

[fleet onyx]

[timid iris]

That s what im hoping yep. Would be really helpful.

[idle kestrel]

huh where's the banner

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[potent laurel]

in 3:12

[hollow vector]

It's currently 6:50 PM in relation to that timestamp, so 3 hours and 10 minutes to go

[idle kestrel]

[primal spade]

Dang, that sucks.

[tame phoenix]

It's out guys

[modern sonnet]

not really, need anchor too

[willow crypt]

must pull?

[tame phoenix]

Anchor won't be out until like next week

[fluid oar]

is anchor in shooting range?

if so then we can test immediately

[idle kestrel]

wanna see how hangover mast look like

loaner anchor not out in shooting range

[regal knot]

Is she good

Ok nice but is mast good tho

[idle kestrel]

anchor isn’t out for a week

[teal tiger]

i would say yes but anchor not out

[idle kestrel]

and you asking if mast is good

[wooden prairie]

mast god

[willow crypt]

why mast gotta be paired with a cunny

[teal tiger]

su baiting u to pull duo before two collab unit

heh

[wooden prairie]

mast god

[amber saffron]

[lusty fiber]

135 and only 2 mast no other SSR.
Scam rate is back again

[teal tiger]

what about anchor if mast is god

[wooden prairie]

u need anchor in order to mast god

[fluid oar]

full mast

without anchor mast is flaccid

[amber saffron]

Run clay mast

Oh wait that don't work

[idle kestrel]

you don’t want full dispellers

since the buff is also tied to the stack count

[amber saffron]

Pull if competitive raider (both UR and SR)

Skip if casual player

[amber saffron]

Ooh if I get
200 pulls somehow

Or like 150 pulls

I should spend all those pulls

And then ticket both collabs

Drake gacha maid skin is now 20$

Was it gacha?

[idle kestrel]

until we get an op distributed damage carry in the future like sbs, mast anchor would probably be stuck with alice sbs.
b1 cdr and fill in element shield gap

crown can then go with whatever the tier zero matching element dps is

[outer trout]

28 pulls, hopefully Anchor takes less

[idle kestrel]

drake gacha was the racer

[fluid oar]

I love her voice and attitude

[amber saffron]

Ah yeah

[crystal chasm]

20$ non mats is kinda yike

[amber saffron]

Ok I can't get 200 pulls

Skip time

[crystal chasm]

I'm fine with normal drake so

only buy gacha Drake

so I can be rac

er

come to think of it

gonna listen to that song while I cook my breakfast

[idle kestrel]

can we call the duo manchor?

[crystal chasm]

macho

[spiral solstice]

Wrong.

Can go with Rapipi too.

Alice and Rapipi are the main beneficiaries of this comp.

[lusty fiber]

If you put alice then it is sbs+alice, right?

[spiral solstice]

In fact, they can't go with SBS + Alice if it's Electric weak.

[lusty fiber]

No electric weak this year trust me

[amber saffron]

Before next electric weak we get new duo benching maid duo trust

[spiral solstice]

Stop coping dude.

Don't push your bad decision making on all of us.

You did not save gems for Maids.

That is not our fault.

[spiral solstice]

You see, in terms of ammo only,

Maids pair better with Rapipi than with Alice.

Cus Rapipi with Crown is a joke.

She still reloads and loses fire rate.

With infinite ammo, it's zero reload.

[wild elm]

45 pulls no ssr, just another rigged meta banners, skip guys, listen to me.

[spiral solstice]

But you might be wondering why not use Privaty.

Well, Privaty is the problem.

She doesn't buff Rapi enough.

[fluid oar]

yeah her ass is too big and it's blocking my view

[spiral solstice]

And Rapi is better paired with her personal buffer.

Cough Rei cough.

[lusty fiber]

Swipe more

[unkempt swan]

20 pulls ez

[wild elm]

1800 friend points, its too ez

[lusty fiber]

I learn a lesson from my friend who skip Soda with 1K standard pull in his stock

He failed

[unkempt swan]

I skipped bsoda, only got her a few months ago

[spiral solstice]

So, Maids are:

• Meta imo, according to Gatrix and Kira. Better than Tia Naga. Rivals Grave (can be higher or lower). Weaker than Crown Naga/HelmTr (likely).
• Value increases for bricked Alice and Rapipi (especially if you have 2× Ammo Alice).
• QoL-focused duo. Runs with them will be less maldy due to how much healing you get, and max ammo at the end of every Full Burst guarantees easy burst charging.
• Infinite ammo is delicious for Alice and Rapipi.
• Use Supporter gear, so good for your Attacker gear stock.
• Does not really care about OL quality.
• What are skill manuals? 10/10/10 needed. Prioritize over HelmTr and Drake.
• Dupe-dependent because caster's ATK scaling (a lot of them).
• Cute?

SKIP = BRICKED
SKIP EVA = ALSO BRICKED (probably)

[unkempt swan]

if you skip both and they end up being one of the top duos (at least on par with tiga), then uh, you better pray twice to rngesus, bc you'll need to get both from wishlist

[modern sonnet]

Mast crown> crown priv

[fluid oar]

some peeps survived skipping bunnies and tiga
I'm sure nothing will go wrong

[spiral solstice]

Pls get some help.

[modern sonnet]

Wdym, crown priv is common duo...

For unlimited ammo

[spiral solstice]

Mast Anchor, you mean.

Mast Crown is brick.

Probably better than Priv but brick.

[modern sonnet]

If you use mast crown, you can use priv doro

[spiral solstice]

Stop coping.

Doro is dead.

[unkempt swan]

mast crown should be worse than priv crown

drunk stacks gonna keep building then reset, making reload speed and buffs very variable

[spiral solstice]

Dont think so.

That one is a bit tricky.

Mast guarantees 35% caster's ATK.

[spiral solstice]

Always.

[unkempt swan]

yeah but the problem is reload speed

[spiral solstice]

Mast shud be better.

But its still cope.

[unkempt swan]

and mast only buffs 3/4 rotations

I don't think she's drunk when hangover

[spiral solstice]

She is drunk.

[unkempt swan]

unless her s1 still triggers and gives her drunk stack after hangover removes it

lemme just go test

[spiral solstice]

It still triggers.

Its better.

Im only saying its cope because its probably unrealistic in Raids.

[spiral solstice]

Trigger Mast's buff on 3 stacks Drunken?

U shud

[modern sonnet]

Mast sbs crown alice every rotation

[spiral solstice]

Dont do that

[unkempt swan]

yeah it still triggers

eh..

[spiral solstice]

The fuck

[unkempt swan]

considering the main draw is reload speed, still sus

[spiral solstice]

Go crown at 1 and 2 stacks

Mast at 3 stacks

Come back

[spiral solstice]

No its not

Mast and Crown draw is not reload speeedd

[unkempt swan]

then why not use helm crown

entire idea of crown priv is reload speed, atk is just smol bonus, if crown mast is to replace that, but you lose consistent infinite ammo, what's the point

[spiral solstice]

Helm is better yes

[modern sonnet]

Mast crown also infinite ammo

[spiral solstice]

Doesnt mean Crown Mast doesnt work

It does work

But Helm is better

[spiral solstice]

Better buffs

Better damage distribution

Way better

Underrated

Infinite ammo isnt everything

The only unit that scales stupidly on infinite ammo is Rapi

Alice is below Rapi lmao

[wild elm]

Auto kraken line

[unkempt swan]

ok xmica removes all drunken stacks on cleanse, not just a stack

[spiral solstice]

Auto Kraken comp.

But with clearing qte*

[lusty fiber]

Do we need to OL mast&anchor?

[spiral solstice]

Wait no heal

Sad

@modern sonnet go test

[modern sonnet]

Kraken?

[haughty coral]

Is she limited?

[modern sonnet]

They will die if auto cuz missiles

[spiral solstice]

No

Crown on stack 1 & 2

And Mast burst on stack 3

Shooting range

Smh

[crystal chasm]

you are limited

[wild elm]

Yes, buff based on caster attack

[lusty fiber]

Oh but no need hard roll right? Just stat

[wild elm]

Ye

[lusty fiber]

Ok need luck 3ele 3 atk with 3 rock

[spiral solstice]

Ammo actl better

Or just pray for multilines cp pad

Anchor ok for pvp

[lusty fiber]

Don't we have 100% reload? Donwe still need ammo?

[unkempt swan]

go 4x hit rate so mast could hit core

[crystal chasm]

[spiral solstice]

For burst gen

Biscuit needed 2 ammo too btw

[spiral solstice]

3 level 11 is enuf

[lusty fiber]

Well leave it to luck. Ain't no way i will waste rock for mast

[unkempt swan]

they really had to make mast mg huh

[severe tartan]

The hit rate debuff ain't as bad as I thought In practice

[unkempt swan]

if their wep types were swapped (even though it doesn't make sense with drunken, but whatever), mast would be a lot better than anchor is rn for pvp

55% caster atk (30% of that buffing rosa, huge), 20% cr, 40% cd (huge for scar), 15% atk dmg, 15% distributed

actually respectable b2 buffer

actually ig it still competes with b2 buffer role, bleh

[spiral solstice]

Offburst

Only trigger on 3 stacks

Well she is similar to Maxwell

[unkempt swan]

she's better noir if offburst and diff weapon

[spiral solstice]

Weaker atk buff but got distributed and reload

[spiral solstice]

Noir is better for mgs

That is unchangeable

[unkempt swan]

ig you can still use rosa with mast....

[spiral solstice]

[unkempt swan]

2 mg is fine if your other units are gen, they can't punish you that much with jackal with rosa there

[spiral solstice]

What the f

Might as well run crown

[unkempt swan]

this doesn't sound that stupid

basically guaranteed rosa 1 shot

even if not, odds of crit is very high

[spiral solstice]

So much copium

Crown better

Get dmg buff from helm

[unkempt swan]

crown doesn't buff rosa

[spiral solstice]

?

[unkempt swan]

oh with a healer

yeah ig you can do that

forgot about that

[carmine hill]

So you are telling me the 2 alts I saw as filler are actually then third meta duo? Uh

I have like 57k gems and 40 vouchers, should I try getting them or skip them for the Eva Collab?

Is not like I'm gonna get close to the top ranks on Sr, I have no crown, my Dps are missing some ol gear pieces and I'm still around lv 220

[amber saffron]

How does mast buff rosa

[wild elm]

Skip

[unkempt swan]

s1

[amber saffron]

That's after rosa bursts

[carmine hill]

Rosa?

Who's Rosa?

[amber saffron]

Rosanna pvp

[carmine hill]

Summer Rosana?

[amber saffron]

No normal rosanna

[carmine hill]

Oh, ok

[amber saffron]

Rosa bursts to activate the stuff, it's all after stage 1

[spiral solstice]

Changed to highly recommend pull bcus meta is omly for rapipi level

[carmine hill]

Man, can't they make banners like flora? :/

[unkempt swan]

she's drunk when entering, not when using

[spiral solstice]

Are u dumb

U need sleep

[carmine hill]

First mana, then this, Eva Collab and soon after will get 3.5 ani

[spiral solstice]

Oh wait ure dead till february

Nvm my bad

[amber saffron]

Check right now if it buffs Rosa in shooting range

I don't think it should

[carmine hill]

A lot of stuff to pull for

[spiral solstice]

It does buff

[amber saffron]

It's similar to "entering full burst"

I think

[spiral solstice]

NOOOOO

Its upon entering B1

[amber saffron]

What's this

[spiral solstice]

Means when ure selecting skill

[spiral solstice]

Snake

Omg

Rei had upon entering B3

Cindy too

Ein too

And u still dk how it works

Smhhh

Gong xi fa cai

[unkempt swan]

well it doesn't matter anyway unless using no healer bc crown still does better

mast trash in pvp still

[spiral solstice]

Tvh idk about this

B1 buff wise

Mast is better

Than atk dmg

[hollow vector]

Idk if it's the actual situation, but here's a refresher on entering BX:
Burst meter not yet 100%: Nothing
Burst meter at 100%: Burst stage 1
Executed Burst 1 (if no re-enter): Burst stage 2
Executed Burst 2 (if no re-enter): Burst stage 3
Executed Burst 3: Full Burst

[unkempt swan]

rosa already stacking atk% tho

actually lemme calc

oh actually..

yeah mast is a tiny bit better

[amber saffron]

So Cindy's buff starts before you click her B3?

[unkempt swan]

assuming 30% rosa OL

[hollow vector]

Yep

[spiral solstice]

Yes

U dumb itc

[hollow vector]

Means her conversion applies to her B3 burst nuke too

[amber saffron]

That's so fucking weird man

[hollow vector]

Which is nice!

[unkempt swan]

any atk ol actually

[crystal chasm]

[spiral solstice]

Gatrix

Pls coach Snake

[amber saffron]

Is anchor in the range rn

[crystal chasm]

yeah

same with Anchor too

[amber saffron]

7/10/7 if u want to

[crystal chasm]

and Helm too

and Drake too

2 collab chars too

excited yet?

[unkempt swan]

drake can wait

[spiral solstice]

10 10 10

[unkempt swan]

I barely give a shit about sg team anyway, I'll be fine

[hollow vector]

What if it goes EVA collab into Stella Blade collab?

[crystal chasm]

7

[tardy steeple]

Its neccessary, otherwise cindy burst dmg is cucked

[crystal chasm]

make it lucky number

[spiral solstice]

Helm can wait

[unkempt swan]

I need helm for pvp

[spiral solstice]

Resetting Doro next

[amber saffron]

But in Bsoda they just added her buff to the damage anyways

[unkempt swan]

I can do so many 2rl teams I couldn't reliably do before

[amber saffron]

I thought they repeated that here

[spiral solstice]

SIN UPGRADED MY GRAVE NOW IM BRICKED

[hollow vector]

How did Sin upgrade Grave?

[spiral solstice]

Internal secret

[hollow vector]

Oh

I was confused for a moment, but I understand now

Because I thought you were talking about the game character Sin

But I understand now. Mean.

[spiral solstice]

Noooooooooooooooo

Well im grateful and thankful but it also bricks me

Me

[crystal chasm]

I have 7000 water books

never spend them sadly

[hollow vector]

Hm? 4320. Idk if I do but I do have a lot plus universal books

[crystal chasm]

[spiral solstice]

I would have been able to if Sin didnt raise my Grave

[hollow vector]

I can easily max like 6 characters with universal books

[crystal chasm]

problem is universal skill books

[amber saffron]

Didn't know grave used water books

[hollow vector]

So I just robotically collect from the arena shop without caring too much

[crystal chasm]

SU be like: Wanna buy some skill books?

[spiral solstice]

LOOK AT WHICH MSG I REPLIED TO MF

[amber saffron]

Yeah look at what he said

[tardy steeple]

Her burst skill atk buff?

[amber saffron]

Yes

[spiral solstice]

Add Helm too

[amber saffron]

I think

[hollow vector]

I think I'll probably end up maxing the maids plus Helm. That's three water characters

Need skill resets to actually do that

[spiral solstice]

Resetting Grave Doro next

And one more

Between SSakura A2 XLud Ein

[unkempt swan]

good thing SU didn't add skill book packs to shop this time

... I would have been tempted

[amber saffron]

@crystal chasm Bsoda adds her burst skill atk buff on her burst right?

[spiral solstice]

2 rotations till unbricked

[amber saffron]

Who wrote Bsoda review

[spiral solstice]

Its called $15 packs

[unkempt swan]

those ain't worth it

[spiral solstice]

Bro?

The $15 monthly pack

[unkempt swan]

oh

I already buy that

it's not enough

[spiral solstice]

Whale

Ffs

NA privilege

[unkempt swan]

I have never seen what even 1.5k of a blue book looks like

[spiral solstice]

Lucky there is server separation

[amber saffron]

💡 Bugged Evaluation
We discovered that, in PvP, if her S1 is Level 7+, the ATK buff in her Burst Skill actually affects the preliminary AoE, but we are unsure if it is a bug. In PvE, this phenomenon happens regardless of S1 level. Normally, units with AoE Screen Wipe do not get to enjoy buff effects that activate at Full Burst for their AoE attacks. Hence, until we get clarification, we will NOT consider it for evaluation. If this issue is not addressed after some time, we will designate it a feature.

For bsoda

I thought this was what Cindy had

[unkempt swan]

cindy burst doesn't even give a damn if you immune yourself, that's how hard she snapshots

only thing her burst doesn't snapshot is indom

[amber saffron]

If you kill blanc she wins against blanc

[unkempt swan]

[amber saffron]

The indom doesn't apply if the first nuke is on blanc

https://fxtwitter.com/YoRu_314/status/1884804969494434164?t=sTbq_Y8oCqjNjDRo285-dg&s=19

[hollow vector]

That's a very neatly sorted pull. All the SSRs at the bottom

[earnest sundial]

So what I'm getting here is that for someone low on materials and still not far in, it worth it to save on the collab

[amber saffron]

He got both the masts

[earnest sundial]

The 10/10/10 really hurts

[amber saffron]

Just reset blanc noir to build these 2 when next skill reset cycle comes

[spiral solstice]

I wud pull but not invest

[hollow vector]

Eh is Mast: Romantic Maid at all acceptable at 7/7/7?

[amber saffron]

And u can build blanc noir later if needed

[spiral solstice]

Unless no gems too

[amber saffron]

Noir is like
754

Ez

Blanc 117

[earnest sundial]

Hmm i see

[spiral solstice]

The fuck

[crystal chasm]

reset blanc

[unkempt swan]

[crystal chasm]

your Scar might not wiped anymore

consider I put her burst at 5

[tardy steeple]

Oh in this case, its from her burst skill

[spiral solstice]

Changed back to Meta

[tardy steeple]

Its not from entering fbm

[coarse jasper]

Should just prio something like 10/7+/10 on mast and 4+/10/7+ on anchor

[coarse jasper]

"Doesn't work correctly in PvP when not 7+"?

[amber saffron]

What

[lusty fiber]

Never be my dps

[amber saffron]

As for Bsoda I'm not sure what testing we did or what the conclusion was I can't find the chats

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1244978357402341376/1246174494729572425/image.png?ex=679bca70&is=679a78f0&hm=84269c78364013a36d7ffe9f08a267ba5f066462aac4034f6fbcb3f1a0abc59e&

I found this screenshot for bsoda

[crystal chasm]

yes

[tardy steeple]

The pvp thing is the bug.

The buff working in pve is normal

[crystal chasm]

Rroar did test her a lot back then

different environment so could be pvp exclusive bug

still reading events + play minigames so I won't test anything

[amber saffron]

Everything in PvP is bugged

[crystal chasm]

there's one not bug

[amber saffron]

You can't test anything for now, wait for next week

[crystal chasm]

how slow MG is

[coarse jasper]

An enter B1 skill should affect initial burst damage if the effect is not animation delayed (used to be an issue for volume/xrupee, generally removed now)

[gray panther]

so her s1 needs to be 10?

[amber saffron]

Yeah, I got told about it above

Although, Bsoda is a pure exception cuz of her skill wording

Though she was the first to start this chain of FB buffs being added to nukes

[amber saffron]

444 -> 777 -> 101010

[coarse jasper]

wdym

[amber saffron]

Bsoda atk buff buffs her burst AoE

[coarse jasper]

whether someone's "own buff" that triggers at the time of cast is kinda inconsistent in this game

Drake's won't trigger for example, it's kinda

[amber saffron]

Yeah it's based on "how good do we want this character to be"

[coarse jasper]

but the things that happen relationally between two characters are consistent

generally speaking

[bright robin]

Does she have any other B2 cope partners or is it only Anchor?

[amber saffron]

Only anchor

[spiral solstice]

Crown

Kinda cope tho

SBS only tbh

[slender sentinel]

who burst 1st mast or anchor?

[severe tartan]

mast

[crystal chasm]

hmmm

these 2 maids are indeed the strongest duo without core

[forest glade]

How did you test without anchor being out

[crystal chasm]

Cunny power

[forest glade]

Oh

[crystal chasm]

anyway, unless you are SBS, else with core, Naga + her parnet > everyone

Naga core dmg buff is so broken SU decides not giving us core anymore

[forest glade]

Or put core in the shittiest of all places

Like ice dragon and gravedigger

[haughty coral]

Great, a duo... can they be replaced? one of them.

[forest glade]

Forced duo

Just wait for what the whales cook up during solo raid and then decide if you wanna pull or not

[haughty coral]

Nope.

No gems

Can afford one, but not a duo.

[unkempt swan]

Anchor doesn't need mast

Mast needs anchor

Except mast has most of the DMG buffs

It's a Blanc noir situation

Actually more severe ig

Anchor helm is like Blanc rouge, but you lose a ton of value from the intended pair compared to bunnies

[crystal chasm]

[haughty coral]

Just wait

NTR will happen.

[unkempt swan]

They're gonna have to specifically make a unit that dispels at same timing as anchor

And partial dispel too

[haughty coral]

This duo is not my cup of beer.

[oak copper]

I got her, now what?

[crystal chasm]

10/10/10

then pull Anchor

10/10/10 too

[oak copper]

Ok thanks

[crystal chasm]

strongest non core duo should be
Crown Helm Tr
then Macho

Bunnies and Tyga depend on whether you are MG or not

[oak copper]

Understandable

[haughty coral]

Get drunk to celebrate.

[simple walrus]

Macho

I like it

[proud vault]

so... how much copy for both mast & anchor ?

[crystal chasm]

none

[proud vault]

[crystal chasm]

[hollow vector]

Real or fake?

[oak copper]

3?!??!??

[hollow vector]

There wasn't a 3rd choice

||I was just messing around in Challenge Level 1 in the event and checking out animations, then uncovered team and finished off the boss. I thought it was a little funny that it came out looking like Maid Mast outdps'd BS Scarlet so here it is||

[forest glade]

20 min YouTube essay coming out on how maid mast is a mast pull

[abstract flume]

I'm the DPS now

[granite oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1326923646597599345/b2e71775871f20c09ca55d1796f17a9a29f525cdbcce4cbf013519d860562f33.gif

[oak copper]

Me waiting for mast analysis...

[amber saffron]

What analysis do you need

There's like 500 paragraphs that were sent above

[simple walrus]

pull or die

[gleaming marsh]

all I see is she outdamages sbs, good enough for me

🤡

[simple walrus]

Oh you didn't say the word
"Skip until stellar blade Collab"

"skip for half anni"

[gleaming marsh]

skip until next anni

siren will be there

[simple walrus]

siren gonna save water

[amber saffron]

Mast and Anchor are the best supports for a non core boss, better than Crown.

Mast and Anchor are the best support for SBS, and can pair with Alice, RapiRH, QeQ and xLudmilla very very effectively due to their distributed damage and reload speed buffs.

Mast and Anchor are top 4 support on bosses that have a core, which means they WILL be used on solo raid. Only on electric raid there can be a case where they go unused, but if the electric boss doesn't have a core, you're probably going to have to force electric units to use this team lmfao

There is your analysis

What else do you need

[oak copper]

Thanks

[gleaming marsh]

I was a away a bit so I have to ask is alice free from sbs now ?

or was it a bait

[cursive drift]

not free

[amber saffron]

The real tldr is pinned

Pull if you are a competitive person in either solo raid or union raid
Otherwise skip

[simple walrus]

Nah Alice keep being SBS happyhole forever

[oak copper]

Oh damn I'm not competitive and I still pulled

[simple walrus]

Ehh that word sounds bad, let me change it

[cursive drift]

if you're not competitive you can pull anything you like

or skip anything

[amber saffron]

Not really though

If you aren't competitive ideally you don't pull on shit units

You still want to improve your account so skip bs like flora

[cursive drift]

if someone is crownless would you prio these 2?

[simple walrus]

flora simps already built her

[oak copper]

I skipped flora and got her 3 times off rate lol

[cursive drift]

campaign still has core so tia/naga probably better

[amber saffron]

Umm depends on if you have

Blanc Noir
Tia Naga
Grave

If you have Tiga, I can confidently say Tiga >>>> maid duo for campaign, not even close

[simple walrus]

Tiga still stronk in campaign, specifically the core dmg

[amber saffron]

Tiga >>>>>>>>> maid duo for campaign cuz of Tia's taunt and shield, not to mention simply higher damage cuz of naga

[simple walrus]

Everything in campaign has core

[gleaming marsh]

jk's were so broken they had to nerf every core on every sr after their release ong

[amber saffron]

Yeah but then they released crown anyways

And now they released non core version of crown

[cursive drift]

core is also an issue for certain weapon types or a big boost

[amber saffron]

Not much

I know what you're talking about

And it's only like 2 units

That have this problem

[gleaming marsh]

even our sg's hit like mg's

core itself isn't a problem

[amber saffron]

I skipped jackal and have never gotten her in a pull

Jackal was in 2023 match I think or smthng

SU trolling

[gleaming marsh]

what else you skipped ?

because we got the selector twice now

[amber saffron]

Flora

I skipped a bunch of units in 2022

Don't have the luxury of skipping much in 2024 and now 2025 start is just

In 2024 every other banner is usually a must pull unit

And several times the mediocre banner was SS pvp

Such as Moran and rumani

[gleaming marsh]

as a f2p its getting harder to keep up

with all these op banners

[amber saffron]

Well to be honest I didn't expect them dumping b2b2b good units

[cursive drift]

i feel like it gets easier and easier over time because mileage just keeps building up

[gleaming marsh]

thats just for 1% banners

[cursive drift]

and then anni/half anni give hundreds of pulls

it is pretty insane

[simple walrus]

2025 pull pack:
RapiH -> must pull or forget to play any competitive mode

Mana -> you can skip her honestly but she still useful no dog shit

Macho -> skip maids is kinda risky in competitive content so don't do that, yeah they are Hella expensive

Eva 2 -> I mean everyone knows they gonna be ultra meta pierce mg units

[simple walrus]

You can skip reading this, is just me crying

[cursive drift]

rapih is a mileage though

[amber saffron]

I hope at least one of them is skippable

[gleaming marsh]

I hope it won't be 3 unit collab

once again

imagine getting 6 banners with reruns

[cursive drift]

i thought it was confirmed asuka/rei idk

[simple walrus]

Yeah thing is, 10/10/10 units

[cursive drift]

that is true

skillups are a big issue

[simple walrus]

Don't know about you but I'm fucking bricked rn

[amber saffron]

I have enuf for 777 both

But I have 456 gems

[cursive drift]

did you get mana?

[gleaming marsh]

[amber saffron]

Yes

[simple walrus]

I skipped mana

[amber saffron]

My mistake is getting mlb rapi

But it is what it is

[gleaming marsh]

my mistake was trying to pull rapi

[amber saffron]

Need a streak of good luck for a few banners

[gleaming marsh]

I went like 200 in before sparking her

[amber saffron]

I got 2 rapi in 20 pulls and then spent all my pulls and mileage on her

[cursive drift]

f2p rn could be like

rumain > skip
cinderella + grave > mileage
flora > skip
xmaiden > pull
xguil > skip
rapi > mileage
mana > skip

and sit on about 150k gems

only if you played for a while and actually had the mileage

[simple walrus]

Nah, she deserved

[amber saffron]

mileage
Mileage + Pull
Skip
Pull
Pull
Mileage + pull
Pull

My Gamba not gambaing

[gleaming marsh]

I mlb'd cindy

that hurt

[amber saffron]

If mana and maid were ez skips I would be rolling in money

Or at least if one of mast or anchor were skips

[gleaming marsh]

please su give us a skip banner

not every unit needs to be usable

[shadow flare]

broken double support banner in half anni

[gleaming marsh]

give us trony v2

[shadow flare]

you

ve been warned

[gleaming marsh]

we know we will get pilgrim duo twins

eventually

[amber saffron]

6 banners after Collab until anni

Don't worry

We will get a lot of "baits" that will totally not be meta

[shadow flare]

you think this is one of the "baits"? because it does smell like it

[amber saffron]

I can assure you that maid duo is strong as hell

I don't think it's going anywhere for 6 months at least personally, the only only place where I can see maid duo having a possibility of being benched is electric raid

[simple walrus]

Guys what if they decide to pull an Overspec unit before half anni?

[amber saffron]

Os = pilgrim

[simple walrus]

Yeah

[amber saffron]

We have set dates for pilgrim releases

[simple walrus]

Half anni, anni and new year

[amber saffron]

Jan/may/nov

[hidden hornet]

Rapipi is never a mistake

[granite oar]

When they give skip units people cry and ask for meta units

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1267912537244958731/1333833384287272970/IMG_3644.gif

[simple walrus]

holy no im really happy skipping everything

only meta i wann see in my life is during anni and new year

[granite oar]

I have 15k left I will skip

[fleet onyx]

what's skill recommendation?

[crisp scaffold]

10/10/10 for max performance

Although personally I don't think S1 is worth 10 for non-whales. 5% Supporter's ATK & <3% crit rate buff for that many skill mats is crazy

[idle kestrel]

please just look at what each skill does and make at least an educated guess which ones to prioritize or can skip.

[crisp scaffold]

S2 is what gives her the distributed damage and reload speed buffs

Reload cube gives 29.69% reload speed, meaning we need a bit over 70% reload from Mast and Anchor combined Mast S2 at 7 gives about 39%, and Anchor's S2 at 7 gives about 35%, which provides that (unless I'm remembering incorrectly and more than 100% reload is needed for infinite ammo)

So Mast S2 from 7 to 10 is really a difference of 6% distributed damage buff for SBS

Mast burst is literally just buffs, so investment is how much you're willing to spend burst mats for DPS increases 5.5% Crit Damage, 2% attack damage, and 8.1% Supporter's ATK

I honestly can't see more than 7/7/7 being worthwhile for anyone not going for numeral ranks in solo raid

[fleet onyx]

so 101010 helm first?

[crisp scaffold]

I'd wait to invest in any until proper testing/challenge mode ranking begins

Although Helm being used in 2/5 AI already is good stonks

I personally think AI-related units are the best investments until one can S7 all of them

[idle kestrel]

infinite ammo rl/sr only happen at 109-110% reload speed

[crisp scaffold]

Ahh, so 79.31% needed if 109%

[crystal chasm]

yes

habibi pls

I did it

trust the process

10/10/10 x2

then 2 collab

2 treasures too

[crisp scaffold]

Mast + Anchor S7 is 73.45%

[crystal chasm]

then Stellar Bitch after that too

Skill Ups

[crisp scaffold]

77.36% for S8

81.26% for S9 each

So S2 10 not required for infinite ammo

[idle kestrel]

sr boss gonna apply 5% reload speed debuff

[crisp scaffold]

Actually wait

Reload speed is at different times

[carmine hill]

How good does mast works for farming kraken with sbs and mana?

[crisp scaffold]

Mast applies during FB, while Anchor applies after FB

Infinite ammo was fake news

[idle kestrel]

but anchor lasts 15s

with 3-5s outside of burst

[crisp scaffold]

Ahhh, true

Oops, wrong reply

[idle kestrel]

it will go the full 10-12s into fb

[crisp scaffold]

I can test with SBS and Mana, but my Mana isn't good

Just note that Anchor can't be used with her

So you'd be going Mast/Crown, which is what I'm trying

[idle kestrel]

you don’t use mast solo with sbs mana without anchor

[carmine hill]

😦

[crisp scaffold]

You do right now

[crystal chasm]

el macho

[crisp scaffold]

[idle kestrel]

mast is 40s cd b2

might as well use crown

[crisp scaffold]

I'm using both

[idle kestrel]

[crisp scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[oak copper]

Is it good?

[crisp scaffold]

What's your metric for good?

[idle kestrel]

it’s more about “i’m doing this for science”

[crisp scaffold]

Can I S7 doing this? Probably

Is it worth? Probably not

failed first test cuz I stupidly used Rapi for QTE

[idle kestrel]

your helm s2 is level 10?

[crisp scaffold]

8/8/7

[fleet onyx]

is dat auto?

[crisp scaffold]

Waiting on 10/10/10 to see how she fares in SR

[crisp scaffold]

Heck no

[fleet onyx]

[crisp scaffold]

My main account's SBS is too weak for full auto S7

My alt can do it

but alt is skipping seamaids

Need to save for NGE collab

Main's SBS is okay but not amazing

So is Mast "good" as in "can be used for an S7 Kraken clear," then yes

That's a 3 OL +0 Mast with 7/7/7

[coral citrus]

How is she compared to crown?

[fleet onyx]

so I can s8 kraken with mast after more investment

[idle kestrel]

just use alice sbs

(with thelm and rapi)

[crisp scaffold]

Alice costs me damage

Can't even S7

[idle kestrel]

you need to feed alice a specific french dessert

[crisp scaffold]

My problem is that SBS isn't cracked enough

S Sakura deals more damage than Alice does/buffs SBS

[crisp scaffold]

I don't believe Mana has sufficient healing for (99%) full auto

Anchor will be necessary

However, manual was successful using an LB0, +0 T9M, 4/4/4 Mana

[wild elm]

You can link this message inside the tldr you have actually

Miss the glazing texts

[crisp scaffold]

Would've had probably +100 mil damage if I hadn't forgotten to take units out of cover during FB onces, but this works, too

Highly not recommended though because it requires i-framing the nukes

[crisp scaffold]

Pretty awesome how low investment this is

Mast only +0/+0/+0 OLs with one +0 T9M (boots) and 7/7/7

[oak copper]

People are forgetting the most important part about maid mast
Ellysion tower

[simple walrus]

How the cook is going?

[crystal chasm]

10/10/10

take it or leave

[simple walrus]

[fleet onyx]

let me leave

[idle kestrel]

[simple walrus]

Imma pull but I'll try top 200 without them

[wild elm]

You prolly need to push couple hundred of floor to recoup the lost gem with these rigged banners

[fleet onyx]

and you don't wanna put them both uninvested with lb0 meaning great loss of CP

[haughty coral]

worst, bad, don't pull
IT'S A BAIT BEFORE COLLAB!!

[crisp scaffold]

Good but expensive

[fleet onyx]

what if collab is bait

[simple walrus]

the Collab is a bait before half anni

[haughty coral]

We are in a bait-ception!

[outer trout]

Why the hell would you call the duo Macho

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-village-people-ive-got-to-be-macho-macho-disco-gif-16652152

[simple walrus]

Yeah macho

[desert yew]

That's a funny name. I'll be calling them that for now on.

[haughty coral]

How about Masanchor?
Great, now the duo is Spanish.

[fleet onyx]

they're maan

[simple walrus]

is macho Spanish? I thought it was a global word

[crystal chasm]

El Macho

take it

[simple walrus]

I don't have booty emotes

The only one is rapi

[haughty coral]

El Mamamia

[idle kestrel]

not naming the emote cthussy

smh

[crisp scaffold]

I have a cursed one for some reason

[simple walrus]

Omg

Found it

[outer trout]

Macho is global. But macho also literally means "stong-brute man" in Spanish

[crystal chasm]

cuz they are chad

deal with it

[simple walrus]

Yeah that even means around the world

[outer trout]

Ty for doing my homework google

https://tenor.com/view/jipoune-village-people-gif-19882077

[haughty coral]

So Macho man is... male man.

[simple walrus]

male man

[haughty coral]

What is this? Spanish version of sea man?

[simple walrus]

Haahahaha

Sea men

[haughty coral]

😂

[outer trout]

Macho as a genre is mostly used for Animals

[haughty coral]

🤨

[outer trout]

Masculino would be the correct "male" for man

Source: bro I speak Spanish

[haughty coral]

So, if masculino would be the correct "male"
does masculimo would be the correct "limo"?

hehehe

[outer trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933801860366348/1332099085972406353/notp.gif

[simple walrus]

Ohh you right I forgot it exists macho and hembra when you talk about animals

[cursive drift]

it's a dangerous pull because a core dmg nikke yeets both of them out

i wouldn't put it past shift up

let people pull 2 nikke for tower and have them invest 10/10/10 x2 with full ol gear for cp padding just for a single nikke to yeet both of them out

and do you really need to progress elysion tower? pretty individualistic answer

my bracket is dead lol

[wild elm]

These 2 are raid units, no other content really “need” them or they outshine others

U wont be bricked if u miss them, u will be bricked if u miss collab and half anni

[cursive drift]

yeah big raid value

[crystal chasm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910980477400264715/1334547488245547179/giphy1-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[upbeat palm]

Is mast mid?

[cursive drift]

yeah if you use her for pvp it's not good

[crystal chasm]

Mist

🚯

[outer trout]

Both should also make a permanent duo for elysion tower, in case you auto/mald it

Dwife Macho Rapipi HelmT

Waiting for Dwife powercreep at this point

[crystal chasm]

if you don't use Helmt

you can always rely on the ex goat

Phantom

[outer trout]

I want to see a top JP SR dude using a gigabusted Phantom

Tho I think there is a higher chance of seeing X.Guillo

[spiral solstice]

Phantom is cope unless boss spawns mobs 24/7 like Harvester

[haughty coral]

Mast: Romantic Maid

Anchor: Innocent Maid

Trony: Best Maid