[Helm] New Unit Megathread

[storm willow]

yep

[void swan]

Fortune favors the bold lucky

Total of 360 blue kits and 20 gold kits to finish Helm's treasure
My attempt at Helm treasure, from R0 to SR15

[tulip berry]

[gusty spoke]

360 blues is kind of a lot ngl

i use 180 as a benchmark for r0->r15

for average

[void swan]

I used the strategy of deliberately levelling SR5->SR6 and SR10->SR11 with blues or purples, whichever I had too much of

Speaking of which, I'm flexing in Drake megathread next because I got luckier

[void swan]

I agree with that though, it's roughly the same as what I got. The difference is I dumped more blues into escaping the start of each phase group for SR doll

[void swan]

I just calculated, looks like I can get Helm treasure phase 3 during upcoming Solo Raid Do I want to, though?

[inland badger]

yes because what else would you want

drake's time to shine as a dps is not next raid so she doesn't need shit

only one left you could use is viper the girl people mocked but will see her time to shine soon

[pine echo]

how much do you have rn

I wanna calc too

actually... ig it won't matter

maids prob use up all my skill books for the next month

got none spare for helm

[void swan]

71 if I exchange everything, + 3 today's dispatch, and I need 110

So 74 + 36 from daily dispatches to make it in time

3 per day, hence 12 days

[wintry sphinx]

is this right?

[pine echo]

oh...

I got 74, but I haven't used the 50 first yet

so I need 160

so I'm 50 short

[gray shell]

treasure helm goes crazy. i did more than my higher sync mates thanks to her (not stage 3 yet but still) https://youtu.be/k5S7G4B9Bc0

idk if stage 3 makes her dmg bonkers

[prime pagoda]

she would definitely do more damage than Xlud on that comp

because of the lack of core

I just need her SR15 now

[haughty mural]

at least will definitely bonker in UR with all the meatbag

its whatever

yeah...

u dont have phase3

what ed for

[prime pagoda]

Cs isnt a bad 3rd line, if you plan on 12/12 her then you want 3x CS

[storm willow]

3x CD

CS is for pee ve pee

[prime pagoda]

are you not using her for PvP tho?

[storm willow]

depend on your choice tho

chargeD will give more on PVE

[prime pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[storm willow]

for cs to be relevant in pvp, you need 17%, that's pretty much 4 lines

mixing inbetween reduces CS value a lot

[prime pagoda]

Just tell me to get F'ed because I rolled CD for CS

[storm willow]

I think both works, just accept the direction you aim for her

in my review, I wrote: She's so flexible that you can use her anywhere, any styles

for a reason

flexible in skill build, OL, burst rotations

[gusty spoke]

you sure? i thought her burst doesn’t multiply cdamage from ol lines

[tulip berry]

even more than ATK% ?

[haughty mural]

So in water now:
HelmT: Body Nuker, Heal and Burst gen support
Xlud: core dps, debuffer
Quency: Distributed Nuker, Core dps
Xguilo: Ed buffer
ViperT: Body dps

[storm willow]

What are other buffs from her burst?

[storm willow]

Still lose to atk and ele

[tulip berry]

[quasi spoke]

what makes helm t so good?

[hoary flame]

looks like skip for me ngl

[red heron]

everything tbh

fast burst gen, good buffs, healing and good dmg even off burst

[rain pawn]

Yeah, Helm has no downsides

[south aurora]

helm is too good for water nihil

[sour viper]

idk if I should focus on helm or drake first tbh

[south aurora]

dat would depend on how well invested is your SG team

[haughty mural]

helm will fill b3 roll almost permanently in water team, pretty good if u need to have a water for ur

[rain pawn]

Drake only needs S1 investment and Phase 1 to perform her minimum role in SG comp

so Helm should get first priority imo

If one already has SG comp well-invested, then there are other options for on-burst units (outside of fire-weak raid). If one doesn't have SG comp well-invested, then Drake is useless

As Mast and Anchor won't be massive contributors to DPS of water units, Helm is a vital asset rn

Even if she can't be invested in time for this SR, there's Harvester AI and, as momo said, UR

[quasi spoke]

what kind of buffs does helm provide? and what would her best team be?

[rain pawn]

Attack damage buff is increased by treasure to almost 28% (FB burst buff), minor healing every shot, and the usual lifesteal during her own burst

The biggest difference from normal Helm to treasure is that she gens 14% of burst gauge per shot

No matter the rest of the team comp, she immediately gives a team excellent burst gen

Phase 2 allows her to be pretty much the best off-burst option for Crown comp (assuming Naga needs to be in another team)

Phase 3 gives her burst a sizable damage increase to 8000% final ATK

[quasi spoke]

would she be similar to maxwell in that regard? just without the charge

[rain pawn]

Maxwell doesn't provide healing or additional burst gen

Also, Helm deals way more personal DPS than Maxwell without burst

[quasi spoke]

oh damn, so she is a lot better

[rain pawn]

No burst, Helm came close to Dorothy in DPS

[inland badger]

helm first if youc an complete her phase 3 before next raid

if you can't you might as well do drake first

[rain pawn]

False

[inland badger]

helm phase 2 is also really good for pvp

[rain pawn]

Phase 3 only affects her burst damage

Phase 2 is perfectly workable

[quasi spoke]

im doing drake rn, then helm after

[inland badger]

her phase 3 is not just 'only'

it is a big difference

[rain pawn]

Only if she's bursting

[inland badger]

and she will

[rain pawn]

If she's off-burst, it's literally zero difference

[quasi spoke]

so what is helms go to team comp?

[inland badger]

if you have it next raid

imagine unlocking phase 3 next raid but not using it

everyone who has it will use it

[rain pawn]

Never said that

I'm disagreeing that Drake is a higher priority than Phase 2 Helm

Aside from the edge case where someone has an insanely invested Viper

which most don't

[inland badger]

mmh alright i can agree with you

drake sucks anyway

[rain pawn]

[inland badger]

helm is a waifu

[quasi spoke]

i would happen to be one of those people lol

[rain pawn]

Yup

[quasi spoke]

the only reason i invested into drake first is to buff vipers damage otherwise i would have done helm

[rain pawn]

Yeah, in your case, it makes perfect sense

[quasi spoke]

she hard carried

then this is not an accurate representation of her to the average player

[rain pawn]

Yeah, I have Phase 3 Viper, but I haven't pushed a lot of investment into her yet

I will if SG comp does a lot this coming raid

Otherwise, gonna keep putting it off

[quasi spoke]

well the two cuck bosses this raid is where sg shines in

nihi and gd

[rain pawn]

Ah, I mean solo raid, sorry

UR is just a sync level competition now

[quasi spoke]

ah

well it is likely to be water, im just hoping i can get helms doll leveled in time to get phase 2

[rain pawn]

I'm not in a meta union, so investment doesn't make much of a difference for UR anymore for me

[quasi spoke]

im not in a top union, but a semi good one, we used 32 attempts to clear nihi lvl 1

but as you said it all comes down to sync level really, who has the deepest pockets

[prisma lagoon]

My union has hard stalled at Nihilister 1 lol

No core, no parts, shitty element

None of us have treasure helm yet pretty sure

If only UR gave doll mats like SR does

[south aurora]

clearly they need to add rewards for hard clear too

[sour viper]

the boss design is shit

shit element, shit and boring mechs, HP sponge

UR is useless anyway since it doesn't give anything subtaintial as rewards

[south aurora]

at least we get near double amount of union chips for cube after hard

so not useless, just it needs to be better

[gusty spoke]

the solo raid battery rewards should have been selectors

really relieve the pressure off union chips

[inland badger]

that's not the SU spirit

everything is rng, that's more like it

[prisma lagoon]

Frankly we should be thankful that cubes aren't rng to level like dolls

[inland badger]

imagine super successes on cubes

[gusty spoke]

delete that shit before SU reads it

[marble stream]

Cubes overloads

[ivory harbor]

Helm

I wonder what prygwen ranking will be

[red heron]

s or ss in everything

[lament agate]

Synergy with Crown and Burst Gen. Those two mainly, as a support B3 that's just one tier below Naga (and best for coreless).

Otherwise used as sub DPS B3.

[lament agate]

SS on PvE and Bossing due to overreliance on Crown, and she is pretty much no better than a regular DPS outside Crown. Will see usage as DPS on Water-weak potentially.

SSS in PvP tho.

[ivory harbor]

I guess I should have waited with my investment into her then. I wanted to raplace my naga in campaign and I don't really play pvp

[red heron]

well for campaign she is a great naga upgrade imo due to the faster burst charge rate, much higher personal dmg as well as most enemys not having cores you can reliably hit

personally I am just waiting to finish her doll till I start pushing again

hopefully the gold upgrade at lvl 11 I will get today will do the job

[quasi spoke]

does she burst or not?

[quasi spoke]

so pretty much same rankings as sanis

[lament agate]

She does can replace Naga in Campaign.

For teams like SBS Alice cus SBS doesnt scale off core damage much.

And the CP pad may help.

But it doesnt do well with Crown Asuka Alice for example.

Helm works better with units that:

• Don't rely on basic attacks, or
• Don't have diluted ATK DMG, category in their kit,
• Are best in teams with shit burst gen.

Which includes SBS, Alice (works with both), Rapipi (to some extent), Mod, etc.

Naga is very basic attack focused. She does not buff skill damage. If that's a problem, then don't use her.

Naga is therefore less stable than Helm.

Helm is more stable that she can be used with anyone with less effectiveness variance.

[lament agate]

Idk, she might end up in SSS.

For that, we shall have an internal fight in Prydwen.

Cus when enemy does not have core, suddenly Naga becomes shit.

But there is counterargument: enemies often have core in campaign.

[quasi spoke]

so ss in campaign and sss in bossing? since there are more likely to be bosses with no cores

[zealous shuttle]

was able to get 400m more dmg on nihilister by subbing naga with helm @ phase 2, 7/6/4 (RRH died with 15 secs left)

gap would've been way higher if I could've done 1 more full burst

[ivory harbor]

Noob question but doesn't naga like doesn't work without crown or tia?

[rain pawn]

Naga can still function without them

Her buffs are all just much weaker

[zealous shuttle]

she was just there for cover heal, which let me survive to get 1 more full burst

[rain pawn]

Core buffs are practically useless vs Nihilister anyway

so you're just missing out on the higher ATK buff from her burst

which, if Grave is bursting, means you're losing out on nothing

[red heron]

I hate my doll luck in the last month

[woven bear]

Her burst gives charge dmg multiplier

[gray basalt]

If you have fave item, does it use the fave item animation during burst in combat?

[prisma lagoon]

No

Otherwise SU would sell less gacha skins lol

[weak coyote]

https://youtu.be/jNsph9h9en8?si=sSniSMk67vP0WD5h

[rain pawn]

Important notes

[rain pawn]

For further context on required stats, my Helm (C7, +0 OLs, Phase 2) was able to survive without a Vigor Cube, but my SBS (C2, +5/+5/+5/+0, SR15), Rapi (MLB, +5/+5/+5/+0, SR15), and S Sakura (C7, +5/+5/+5/+0, R5) could not

[placid shore]

Well i am a noob and used the same formation. Before i had Naga but with helm it is way easier.

It is impressive what a skilled player can do

[jovial gulch]

Dint realise there was a helm thread I coulda posted it here (I'm the creator of that vid)

[rain pawn]

Even more context, WITHOUT VIGOR CUBE QTE failure at Phase (clear unknown)

• Crown: 3.86 mil HP (0% DR), does not survive
• Helm: 3.35 mil HP (17% DR), survives with 105k HP ✅
• SBS: 3.23 mil HP (17% DR), does not survive
• Rapi: 3.09 mil HP (17% DR), does not survive even with Vigor Cube Level 7 (3.36 HP) or Tempering Cube Level 4 (24.27 DR, 3.06 HP
• S Sakura: 3.21 HP (0% DR), does not survive

I guess it's higher DEF that's keeping Helm alive even though Rapi has more HP than her with Vigor cube

[jovial gulch]

Yea it's the def

My rapi dies without vigor

That's why I had to put vigor on rapi and helm in the video

[rain pawn]

How many dupes on Rapi?

[jovial gulch]

All core 7 there

[rain pawn]

Ahhh, that makes sense then. My Rapi being about MLB is

[jovial gulch]

Ye

Thanks for sharing the vid tho

[rain pawn]

I wasn't the one who shared it. Just commenting with detailed stats on how my experience is differing

[jovial gulch]

If it helps my helm has 1 line of Defense

[rain pawn]

Seeing what I can tweak to make it work

[jovial gulch]

That's the only Defense line in there

[rain pawn]

I usually avoid upgrading Attacker boots, so I have +0s on all of those units except Crown

[jovial gulch]

Everyone is on ed atk ammo etc

[rain pawn]

SBS actually has more DEF than Helm somehow, so upgrading boots might actually keep her alive even with Resilience

[jovial gulch]

Sbs and sakura should take lesser damage btw

[rain pawn]

Nope

Nikke doesn't do damage resistance; only weakness

[jovial gulch]

Most of the time they are the ones that live

[rain pawn]

Electric units will take more damage, but Wind units won't resist

[jovial gulch]

At least from my test

After it hits stage 7 at least

[rain pawn]

I only have C2 SBS and R5 doll S Sakura, so that's where I'm having issues

[jovial gulch]

[rain pawn]

Lemme try Noir in final slot actually, since off-burst S Sakura doesn't deal that much damage

Oh wait, she's low doll as well

[jovial gulch]

Funny enuf my sakura does more dmg than noir

She's just too invested

[rain pawn]

I have a very invested Noir

[jovial gulch]

Like my sakura is 2 black line ed
2 blue line ed
1 black line atk

[rain pawn]

Very nice

[jovial gulch]

Well good luck

[rain pawn]

I have 62% S Sakura and 90% Noir

[jovial gulch]

I laid the foundation just need ppl to improv or work around stuff

[rain pawn]

Phase 3 will make it even faster

Very excited

although could end up a problem cuz S6 QTE fail will wipe

[jovial gulch]

That's fine u can just reset and lower the level if that happens

Tho I doubt it will make much of a difference

[rain pawn]

You can't lower treasure level

Phase 3 is 4x damage of burst on Helm

[jovial gulch]

U can Lower the skill level

[rain pawn]

Ahhh, skill level, true

[jovial gulch]

The healing doesn't matter

[rain pawn]

Tempering Cube is very effective 👀

[jovial gulch]

The heal will still heal everyone to full even at lvl 1

[rain pawn]

Yup

[gusty spoke]

so if i can only get to phase 2 by SR, do i even bother with her

aside from skill investment

[rain pawn]

Probably wait until Challenge Mode comps start forming to do anything

If she ends up placed in Crown comp as off-burst, then Phase 2 use is still very important

[gusty spoke]

talking about OLs

mostly

rock spending is kinda tight since rapi is not fixed yet

and i might have to get alice her 12th line

[rain pawn]

Rapi as B1 is only a sub-DPS

[gusty spoke]

neutral rapi is still solid for water

coz water is just that terrible

[rain pawn]

Screenshot taking right as Rapi died (I didn't go into cover at all) vs Nihilister, begining of Phase 2. Helm is 60% ele, 0% ATK, all +0 OLs vs 19% ATK Rapi, +5/+5/+5/+0

That's off-burst damage

This time I'll burst

(phase 2)

Got distracted, so progressed a bit further

[pine echo]

she really needs phase 3 for her bursting to be worth it

[lament agate]

Focus on ATK for OL.

Doubt theyre gonna make too much water weak.

Rmb she has zero atk buff

That is only pure nuke

[cedar junco]

crown does a def buff on allies who did not burst, rapi always burst helm is on/off

[rain pawn]

Ahhhh right, the DEF buff

I totally forgot about that

doesn't save S Sakura tho

Need SR dolls

[cedar junco]

dont rly need s sakura just replace her with alice

u just need to survive qte

but upcoming maids will maybe make it a lot easier

that loli has an increase hp buff of like 60% for all allies

[rain pawn]

I actually lose damage with Alice

Can only get to S6

[prime pagoda]

2 weeks until the SR

and I need to upgrade Drake's doll too

[tight dust]

Just refresh dispatch till you get gold×8 every days

[prime pagoda]

I was using around 500gems on dispatchs every day before UR trying to get it

[haughty mural]

damn 500 on reset dispatch, which union u from, the pressure must be big

[void swan]

I already got all treasures

So I guess I hoard for 6 months? That’s the release timeline?

They seem to like the number 4, so if I set aside enough resources for 4 dolls that’ll cover the next batch

[ivory harbor]

I'm slowly getting to helm item

[remote ginkgo]

if they want to keep the same number nikkes released per year as they were talking about, it'd be every 4 months now

[charred schooner]

no they made it seem like they wanted 6-8 per year

clearly they opted for 8 since that gets them more money so

[gray shell]

does charge dmg multiplier (in her burst) also include your charge dmg bonus from ol line? or does it only multiply the base charge dmg aka 250%?

[prisma lagoon]

I believe it includes OL as well

(250 + OL/Cube/etc) * multiplier

Which is why OL is so garbage

250+10=260

Wow 4% increase

[gray shell]

lmao

[woven bear]

Its only base thats multiplied

OL added afterwards, so its even more dogshit

[prisma lagoon]

Amazing

Absolutely useless after all

[lunar quarry]

be like me

got desperate enough to merge R toys

and I got lucky on my last gold maintainance at lv11 lmao

or else I'm pretty much cooked

[hoary flicker]

CDMG multiplier = just charge damage scaled up by base full charge

so +10% c.dmg multiplier for a 250% charge is equal to 25% charge dmg stat

so it's always just "better charge dmg", because no one has a negative (sub-100%) full charge rate

[storm willow]

Helm Tr should have better DPS than Xlud
But non burst Helm Tr <<<< Xlud

[south aurora]

so I burst helm over xluf after p3?

[rain pawn]

I would imagine so

X Lud's burst is relatively weak compared to most other DPS units

so she's a really good off-burst unit

Helm's phase 3 burst is crazy

[placid shore]

So which OL Gear for Thelm3?

[lament agate]

ATK ELE

10 10 7 is ok

Dont get bought to 10 10 10

Snake is shit at micromanagement of this game

Upgrades the wrong shits pulls the wrong shits

Cant compete brick account

He can play with whale account cus there is no brick for them

[rain pawn]

I thought Snake is practically F2P

Aside from costume gacha

[mossy locust]

@lament agate will u have enough mats to phase 3 helm

[marble stream]

ngl I prefer spend everything on helmT rather than maids

[mossy locust]

all.

just do all if them

[rain pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mckinley-whale-big-gif-3873017581534036627

[marble stream]

I can barely 7/6/6 one unit rn

Lol

Well maybe 7/7/7 during SR

[mossy locust]

my helm has been 7-4-4 since foreve

[lament agate]

No

[marble stream]

Mine 4/4/4

[lament agate]

Im jidt gonna 5 5 4

[rain pawn]

Yeah, I had Helm 8/7/8 for like two years

[lament agate]

Maids first

[mossy locust]

actually

since forever

[marble stream]

Maids 4/4/4 well no mast 4/4/4 anchor 1/1/1

[lament agate]

Maid breakpoints is 10

9 is ok

Probably

[marble stream]

[lament agate]

But need 10

[marble stream]

[haughty mural]

Planned to use only 30 rocks on HelmT

After 12 rocks, mine prolly end up 1 ammo 3 atk 2-3ed

[daring mirage]

blue DEF

[rain pawn]

Setting up for that full auto Kraken

Gotta survive the QTE

[charred schooner]

i got black line def on my sbs

on a 3 line roll

gave me an extra 1.3k cp

[haughty mural]

The blue def likely stays there the piece is complete and budget not allow

[south aurora]

so I can full auto s7 kraken even with p2 helm, tho I can't make noa alive

should be easier after p3

[visual vale]

and this is why mana is bait and a waste of tickets/gems

[south aurora]

nah mana would be top support for eva 2.0

[rain pawn]

Just get wishlist luck and pull her during that period

[visual vale]

^

[south aurora]

oh dem my noah hadn't even R doll till now

[visual vale]

still a massive waste when we don't even know eva 2.0 kits

[haughty mural]

How is your sbs?

Damn mana is bait sadge

[south aurora]

80.3% ele 30.29% atk

[haughty mural]

ok cant copy sbs has 0 atk

Unless HelmT phase3 and compensate

[south aurora]

indeed you need good sbs for stable s7 as it's very close before qte

still idk how much p3 helm can compensate it

[haughty mural]

Wait this is not on phone?

[south aurora]

nope

[haughty mural]

If it has to be pc then i feel less incentive

[south aurora]

imma try it on phone too

[visual vale]

doesn't need to be

[haughty mural]

His score is pretty close

[visual vale]

with noah

[haughty mural]

Prolly crown rapi dps cut in half

It has to be Noah

[visual vale]

nope

[haughty mural]

Something with her skill help with the Qte

[visual vale]

doesn't have to be

there's multiple full auto helms without noah

[haughty mural]

Ohh?

I only saw 2 and they both noah

[visual vale]

https://old.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1i3p854/full_auto_kraken_stage_7_ft_helm_treasure_phase_2/

[south aurora]

oh alice can do it?

[rain pawn]

Yeah, the final can be mostly whatever assuming you have enough investment

[south aurora]

imma try it too

[rain pawn]

The problem is that if you don't have any sort of native DR/ATK down, you'll get wiped by the QTE without a lore of cores/invested dolls

[haughty mural]

Need sr15 on all of them

[rain pawn]

SR15 and at least C3 for the Attackers

[south aurora]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/127560219?mode=best&p=1
yea he said sbs and rapipi needs to be mlb with sr15 doll

[haughty mural]

If noir mana have sr15 they can do too

[rain pawn]

MLB not enough

Puts you like 200k HP short

[haughty mural]

Wait technically the comps suggested is all high priority units and have sr15 bt default

[south aurora]

phone is doable too

and noah can survive with like R10 doll

[rain pawn]

Yeah, Noah/X Mica with their team DR are very helpful. Oh, I should try X Mica

I have her well invested

[visual vale]

yes

[south aurora]

dem helm with lv0 OL gears can't survive without DR

[rain pawn]

How many cores?

My C7 just barely survives

[south aurora]

she's c7

[rain pawn]

Console diff

[south aurora]

need to level chest and shoes

what's your console lv?

[rain pawn]

Lemme log in and check

She has 3.35 mil HP at level 400, I remember that

Survives with 75k-150k

[rain pawn]

150

[south aurora]

[rain pawn]

220 is my recycling level

[south aurora]

mine has 3.44mil hp

[rain pawn]

Is Helm bursting at the time of the QTE hit?

[south aurora]

idk I put in order with reddit guy

[rain pawn]

Oh wait, yeah

Your Helm is right of SBS

She's probably bursting during the QTE, meaning she gets an ATK buff from Crown instead of DEF

I had Helm left of SBS when I'd tested

Maybe I should do the opposite since my SBS has less cores

[south aurora]

oh wtf she didn't die this time

after I changed the order again

and she ain't gonna make it below c7

[rain pawn]

Oh wait, X Mica won't work cuz Rapi turns B3

Yeah, that's my problem

I might have to use Liter since she's C7

[south aurora]

but that team is still unstable cuz any missile after qte can kill them besides crown

[rain pawn]

Oof nope. Removing Rapi results in the stupid physical missiles not getting destroyed, killing Crown

Guess I'm stuck doing 99% auto for a long time

[hoary flicker]

Helm burst is not much better than XLuds unless you already have infinite ammo

The utility of pressing XLud burst is that you can completely prevent a slow reload

It's actually better to press XLud burst in that situation instead

[storm willow]

which is fixed by Crown + cube

without crown sure

[void swan]

Yeah I actually loved this part of RRH destroying all the missiles as a B1. Super QoL assist there

[fading sail]

You need SR 15 doll, maxed lvl gear, lvl 7 tempering cube and c2 minimum* to survive that qte.

• SBS needs only MLB or c1 I believe since its pilgrim stat
• you can subtitute a dupe with a def line (so c1 rapipi with a def line will survive)
• anyone receiving crown def buff I believe will also require 1 less dupe to survive

[red heron]

most phones can run the game at 60

[red heron]

and how many cores?

[haughty mural]

Not my phone

[red heron]

do you think I can do it before lvl 400 if the whole team is c7 other then noah lb2 and helm c5?

oh wait alice is the noah alternative, I have her at c7 with 38% atk

[visual vale]

most phones cannot

[fading sail]

what level are you at?

[visual vale]

nikke actually runs like shit on android and requires the latest and high end models to run 60fps

[red heron]

353 but I have enough saved for 375

just waiting for the new story chapters to drop

[fading sail]

Just test it out now if you want

[red heron]

probably 381 or more by that time

my helm is stuck at sr11

[fading sail]

rip

[red heron]

I got 4 gold boxxes in 20 minutes, I need 2 purple to reach sr12 and 4 gold to upgrade

[inland badger]

im stuck at sr12 send help

[marble stream]

pray during solo raid

[fading sail]

$$$ people

[heavy minnow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1070326844991225876/credit_card.png

[red heron]

got 6 purple and 5 blue, still no success

maybe we get a doll set in the event shop tomorrow

[fading sail]

email SU with your credit card info asking to buy more doll mats

[prime pagoda]

Halfway through SR11 now

I don't even think I will be able to get Drake's doll to SR15 for the next SR at this pace

[red heron]

they have them already

[fading sail]

buy more then

[red heron]

worst thing is I have enough mats to finish helm and I also have drake and miranda at t2/3

[marble stream]

The only way to get more doll mats is rerolling dispatch

[prime pagoda]

Complain to SU for doll mats

[red heron]

I am doing that already

but rapi took me to sr14, now helm is sr12 already and drake is stuck at r13 (pls don't ask about it)

[marble stream]

My name is complaining about ol shit system

[cedar junco]

on my rapipipi

to survive qte

it is prob easier to auto kraken with noah when u have helm t3

no need to switch cube ect

[charred schooner]

aint no way you double locked just to get higher def

[cedar junco]

I doubled locked to try reroll first line to atk

But it gve me another def line

3 rocks down the drain

[charred schooner]

😭

rip

also isnt it 4

[prime pagoda]

No, it is 3

[daring mirage]

50 custom locks and 3 rocks

[pine echo]

you guys are going way too far simply so you can alt tab out of nikke for a few min a day

I'm happy simply holding left click as mana and still having to aim

[daring mirage]

I’m happy getting my few minutes of alice training

[gusty spoke]

[marble stream]

[tulip berry]

helm god

[south aurora]

your quency and xlud have both 120% ele?

[leaden pawn]

Around 85% should do fine on both

With SR15 mlb

[tulip berry]

Quency MLB 4/10/7 42.32% ATK / 80.2% ELEM / 64.82% Ammo
xLud MLB 10/7/10 22.21% ATK / 92.81% ELEM / 182.14% Ammo
Helm P2 C7 6/6/4 23.56% ELEM

Naga variant lack roughly 200mil
Helm fix that with better personal DPS + a lot better burst gen compared to Naga

[south aurora]

dam

mine is only 4.4b with 40~50% ele

[tulip berry]

test your Ol luck when solo raid is near
Harvester title is kinda ugly tho so there's that
the bar will also prob get even lower if you wait for Helm P3

[south aurora]

oh ya next is watah

who should I reroll OL first?

[tulip berry]

Prio fixing xLud first, she has more usage even in Neutral, Quency is rather niche.
Helm i wouldn't touch beyond the initial rolls unless you can get P3 in time for Solo Raid.

[bold bone]

How good is helm

[rain pawn]

Very

[bold bone]

Can i use her for campaign

[rain pawn]

Potent DPS in water-weak, respectable sub-DPS otherwise, extremely flexible (can be burst or off-burst), and provides a healthy variety of utility to the team

[rain pawn]

I'm not a super high deficit player, but I don't see why not

Treasure automatically gives her very high CP, her burst gen is better than Jackal's, and she provides both healing and damage buffs

[bold bone]

Nice i also have xlud xguillotine xmaiden to upgrade but i think ill start upgrading helm

[rain pawn]

She's definitely higher priority than X Guillo

[bold bone]

But the doll upgrade seems to take too long

Maybe it will be about 2-3 months till i get her treasure

[rain pawn]

I assume you don't reset dispatch?

[bold bone]

I do (around 200 gems)

[rain pawn]

Shouldn't take that long then

unless bad luck

[bold bone]

I dont know i keep getting to lv14 doll with no super success

[rain pawn]

Go see an exorcist

[red heron]

I also have her at sr 12 now after reaching sr14 with rapi a few weeks ago

[red heron]

maybe we get a group discount

[quiet sigil]

SR5

No Super Success yet

[cedar junco]

she is useable in those 35%+ deflict clears

[barren sand]

Is new helm good for defense?

[red heron]

2 gold and 4 purple from those boxxes and I might be able to do it

[woven isle]

I have been getting favorite item materials SO SLOW D:

with the absolute worst luck on super success

[prime pagoda]

I got 20 blues yesterday with the same boxes

Yellow boxes have failed me for too long

[red heron]

I had 3 yesterday and got 15

tbf, I didn't say I had much hope

[pine echo]

@storm willow so how does helm compare to other water dps in dmg

[storm willow]

phase 2?

[pine echo]

phase 3

[storm willow]

sog dhit

who even has phase 3 now?

[pine echo]

ppl will have it in the future

[storm willow]

ask them in future then

just so you know

[pine echo]

I thought you were gonna math it out

[storm willow]

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war

[void swan]

and taxes

[storm willow]

no I can avoid it

only death is inevitable

anyway she should be 4% higher than Xlud on both prime

but without burst she's meh

her burst plays a big role in DPS

while Xlud doesn't gain many from it with Crown + Cube

[rain pawn]

I'm almost there

[pine echo]

reason I'm asking is my helm might end up pretty damn good

[rain pawn]

Need less than a week for Phase 3

[storm willow]

if we remove core, Xlud is so worthless you don't even consider a competitor for Helm

[pine echo]

for union raid nihil, who do ppl typically use for burst gen

in water comp

[storm willow]

Rouge

oh watah comp

Helm then

[pine echo]

I'm not gonna brick my acc if I spend a few dozen rocks for helm right?

my other water dps are mid af

[storm willow]

can

consider next 2 characters don't need rock at all

we don't even need to OL them unless you want to use them in campaign too

in that case, 8 rocks max

[pine echo]

I'll just max ol them in a few days with help from full burst weekend, I'm not worried about them

I just need to hunt for 2 line 1s then my helm is approx 75% ele, 15% atk (low on purpose for pvp link), 17% cs, 68% ammo

and tbh I don't care too much about having water dps... except against nihil

so I need one that works without core

probably good for coop too since no fps nerf

yeah fck it imma pump her full of rocks, already got good start anyway

[gusty spoke]

ok boys, we got him! let’s wrap it ip

[lament agate]

Who doesnt avoid taxes tho

[storm willow]

tell them IRS to catch me

oh no they can't, they are being sent to border

[void swan]

Gottem, and rock flex.

[prime pagoda]

now I can full reroll a other piece which had ammo on the 3rd line and defense

[marble stream]

[red heron]

finally

[mossy locust]

phase 12. i see my future

[zealous shuttle]

9 more days till I get stage 3

[pine echo]

it's joever for me

should I do it...

[gusty spoke]

nope

[tulip berry]

still 11 days of Dispatch and 7 days of Solo Raid left, you'll be fine

[red heron]

I need 11 days, the sr rewards should do the trick thought

[red heron]

getting quite close

[fading sail]

stage 3 helm would definitely solve this

or getting to 361 maybe

[red heron]

well

I could get to 377 right now but waiting for story to drop

[fading sail]

you should just lvl up and rush hard mode

[red heron]

I am already -33% in hm

now that I have helm I can replace naga, gain about 20k pwr and can push again in chapter 26

[red heron]

I would give up on over 6000 cd by the time the story chapters release in a few weeks

[red heron]

I was able to push 10 stages just now from switching naga to helm already lol

on auto

[fading sail]

Helm does have higher burst gen

Tho naga should be the better choicr since all enemoes have core

[red heron]

yeah but I suck at hitting that

[red heron]

ok now I am stuck on 26-25

I hope whoever created that stage steps on lego

[storm willow]

just reach 27-21

[haughty mural]

4 initial rocks + 26 rocks fix last couple days. I feel like this is good to stop

[red heron]

I don't think i can at my current pwr

[hearty hornet]

Charge Damage Multiplier ▲ 158.4% for 10 round(s).
this bonus from burst doesnt expire after FB end right ?

[void swan]

We'll know for sure once it's tested, but yes... that's the assumption

Because it's already done that way for similar units. Snow White, Maxwell

You can hold their 1 ammo blast through end of Full Burst and even into another Full Burst

[storm willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910980477400264715/1335211532690129030/20250201_073343.jpg?ex=679f5824&is=679e06a4&hm=b3c95fea2c7a0a7190a88d228250175fab74cc3ff1d48c18b785cca102a5b10e&

my Scarlet is SR 15

can't relate

[marble stream]

Pvp player

[fading sail]

What was it about fixing helm #1329328343014703145 message

[ivory harbor]

Helm baby wife

[daring mirage]

but more cs = more dps

[leaden pawn]

Yeah, but not by a lot

It's better to invest in other units at that point

[daring mirage]

yeah agree

[leaden pawn]

Not every unit is a 12 liner

[gusty spoke]

not with that attitude

[hoary flame]

should be doable at 600k if you have REALLY strong rh

[red heron]

my rh is missing 1 ele

I could probably do it on pc tbh

[hoary flame]

mine had 90% ele,so ch 25 and 26 were a breathe for me,even at 30 fps

now i'm with 37% deficit at 27-2

[red heron]

my rh needs work but my rapi makes up for it in these stages

at the end of the battel her dmg is only slightly below rh, despite rh usually bursting twice

I do play at 60 fps on my phone btw

[hoary flame]

man,tf is that rapi,mine is only this after 120 rocks

[hoary flame]

laptop,but 30 fps

60m away from stage 7 kraken cuz of it

[red heron]

I also invested about 120, got very lucky on 2 pieces but the gloves took me over 80 rocks

[hoary flame]

70 rocks just to get line 2 on this one

[red heron]

worst of all, I got first row atk after 18 rerolls and then I clicked on keep the old roll, took me another 9 rolls to get it again

[brittle zenith]

What’s the current rating for Favorite item helm?

[red heron]

the best item we ver got I think

[void swan]

Idk the rating but if treasures had their own tiers, Helm’s would be SSS for me.

I like her treasure the most of everybody that’s been released, atm

[haughty mural]

That mean for fix her until the end

I toss 30 rocks and take whatever they give

[marble stream]

4 rocks and pray

[haughty mural]

i was bored with rapi so i work on helmt a bit so she can be usable for raid especially union raid cuz my water is stronger than most so i need tp tale advantage of that. After 26 rocks past week (9 days worth of rocks)
from
64%ammo, 23.6% atk
into 126% ammo, 34.6% atk, 22ed

i see that to "properly" fix a unit to a 10-12 lines it would cost more than 10 days of rocks, this is on my Queency and Xlud also, take lot more to fix

and to fix a hyper carry unit that requires 10-12 lines it would take roughly 1 month of rocks, and to optimize for blue black line would take 1-2 months more

so for units like HelmT

she only deserve 10-30 days of rocks

[pine echo]

thx shiftup, gimme good luck for a unit that isn't top prio

[haughty mural]

depend on case

[pine echo]

prob gonna try to replace that blue crit rate with a cs, then reroll value on my pieces, and call it a day

don't want atk too high

[haughty mural]

why not the bottom right hit rate

u get more value for the same price

[pine echo]

I already have cs there

[haughty mural]

that could go atk or ammo

and it will help with the bottom left

[pine echo]

3 ele 4 cs is goal

atk I don't want too high, otherwise I gotta work on my other pvp units as well

ig I can work on the bottom two to get 4 ele while staying 1 ammo, but that's pretty expensive, maybe if helm ends up super duper stronk

[charred schooner]

what website is this?

[red heron]

https://nikke.ciu-app.com/login

[charred schooner]

ty

[prime pagoda]

Well shit... that's 4 ele but it is going to hurt to get atk now

[haughty mural]

should just stop

its just a hemlT after all

[prime pagoda]

That's not a top ranker attitude

[visual vale]

https://i.imgur.com/v81eZCO.png

[haughty mural]

reroll for higher hit rate, your barrage hit me

[visual vale]

that's okay helm's burst isn't aoe SU fixed that

[marble stream]

Time to build helm

I need her not just for water niche things

She seems very useful

[red heron]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1052622020858363944/1335377528050679808/Screenshot_2025-02-01_233249.png?ex=679ff2bc&is=679ea13c&hm=a72d8813c36e9f32378a8600364f80147d68550d0397231a3c0c86606d91fdf3&
managed to finish it and even cleared the boss stage but now I am really done with pushing lol

[hoary flame]

yeah,and i literally unable to push

cuz i have 50k cp less than you

and i'm 366 sync

[red heron]

whats your lvl?

[hoary flame]

i just don't invest

in cpgapping

only solo raid usage

[hoary flame]

366

[red heron]

yeah I saw your first answer already

well I am bad to compare to since I whale

[hoary flame]

so my units sit around 100-120k

[hoary flame]

now that i see it

you have 3 c7 units

[red heron]

yeah my strongest is rapi at 148k iirc

[hoary flame]

132k rh

[sour viper]

can I start using helm on stage 2?

ain't nobody got the time for stage 3

[charred schooner]

yes

but her ability as a dps strongly relies on phase 3

[sour viper]

my only core7 is helm

[charred schooner]

my only core7 is priv

[south aurora]

after few tries blanc is better than noah for full auto kraken to me

[ivory harbor]

Bro is using flex Blanc
That's crazy

[leaden pawn]

Full auto

[south aurora]

it's sweaty af for survival tho

[cedar junco]

huh how does blanc do better than noah?

ur rapipi is dying so u need Indomitability?

with noah u dont burst, u use her for s2, reduce atk of boss

i have s2 on level 4

[south aurora]

I reach s7 barely before it dives and sometime I fail with noah so it's about dmg issue

[cedar junco]

aah i see

[storm willow]

if you need to reduce boss's ATK

remember the goat

[gray shell]

more helm showcase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUzRBjSt0K8

helm vs naga on kraken full clear. thanks for watching ❤️

first title too lol

[cedar junco]

needs to be skilled with alice, couldnt be me

[jovial gulch]

With Helm Treasure is better than Naga on Ultra

https://youtu.be/LLwcdgFB-2o?si=Y2IuxFAiPtiocQG0

[gray shell]

to the moon with helm stocks

[jovial gulch]

doesnt need

if u want i can upload a kraken full clear without any Sniper Rifle Manualling Full Clear with Helm vs Naga

[south aurora]

I can't s9 kraken with my 80% ele sbs

[ivory harbor]

Oof

[void sparrow]

It seems that Helm is finally starting to appear in low Hard 22 Nihilister clears

I wonder how much of a difference she makes

In theory her buffs are higher, but we lose the 120% core dmg buff from Naga in Phase 2

[gusty spoke]

it's probably balanced out

since phase 1 lasts for 2m10s

[gray shell]

i wonder how you can aim at nihilister's mouth without missing 25% of the time

[gusty spoke]

man, the good ol days of using helm backn in normal chapter 20 nihilister

[leaden pawn]

You need the other helm here

[storm willow]

no one has her in phase 3 yet

once you have her, 35% deficit Nihilister doesn't seem impossible anymore

[rain pawn]

10 more

[red heron]

days or items?

[rain pawn]

Items

I'm at 100/110

[red heron]

I wish I didn't use fodder items to bring all 4 treasures to stage 2, otherwise I might be done already (still need 29 items)

[rain pawn]

And then I'll use all spare Helm treasure mats from solo raid to progress Drake's

[daring mirage]

would have my p3 next reset

if I had a sr15 doll

[red heron]

you can do it, I also only managed to finish mine 2 days ago

[jovial gulch]

https://youtu.be/BH7nc53zIwc

made a comparison with naga and helm without alice manual for more consistency and lesser human margin of errors

there is differences

[haughty mural]

they both boobs

[jovial gulch]

they are both boobs

[cedar junco]

tf looks even easier, the one with ssakura and helm has 24 sec left

[teal marsh]

Hey that was me
Yesterday I beat tribe tower 680 (the first version of Kraken) with Helm because burst gen is actually important on top of low core priority
Plus also ratio 50 with just three buffs in legacy (level 1 ssr universal life drain, sr quick charger and sr universal attack)

[jovial gulch]

my sakura is just very heavily invested

[cedar junco]

SSakura: 4 ED / 4 ATK / 1 Hit Rate / 3 Ammo

[teal marsh]

Will Phase 3 Helm allow for a super comfy Harvester clear since you can sub xlud or Quency for Naga?

[jovial gulch]

2 of those ED is black and 1 is blue and 1 of those atk is black

thats not all you can do with helm as well btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNsph9h9en8

u can also do a real full auto with helm on kraken

[cedar junco]

u tried the noah one?

[jovial gulch]

yes

[cedar junco]

no need to change cube and req is lower

[jovial gulch]

i dont have to change now

it works with bastion lvl 15

that video was bastion lvl 14

[cedar junco]

yea noah team needs a lot of dmg

[teal marsh]

Wait how well will helm do in Massive Object

[dusty fog]

I like how they added that simply for clickbait

[cedar junco]

sbs does like no core dmg so it depends on the boss elemental weakness and which one is the main dpser

[cedar junco]

@hushed cape

that guy cleared kraken like 15 sec faster with helm

if boss has no core always go helm coz naga isnt going to do shit

if u go with core dpsers than u can do crown + naga

it is less than naga's but sbs dmg increase makes up for it

in my case tho

idk if u do pvp

if u do pvp, helmt is pretty much a must

highest burst gen

[haughty mural]

you smart enough to filter the right and wrong parts

[marble stream]

Boss has permanent core so prolly P1 is crown xlud

[storm willow]

huh boss has core?

where do they state that?

[gusty spoke]

they think because of the recommended weapon being mg

[pine echo]

[storm willow]

It can be hit count rapture lol

Just like sbs raid

[rain pawn]

Mat H always has core

Just have to clear mobs/turrets

Not 100% uptime

[teal marsh]

so shotguns bad?

anyway was doing a field test of helm from tribe tower 701-710 and 721-729
I have to say I'm impressed, helm with quantum gave burst gen that helped me corner out a few places I otherwise would've stalled on burst gen

[hoary flame]

prob only on fire weak

[hoary flame]

while i get it,i don't like the part of them only being strong with certain units(only distributed damage due to mast iirc)

[rain pawn]

Shotguns are never bad

Just not BiS

[rain pawn]

That's the case for most buffers tho

And honestly how they should be

Universal buffers like Crown should be rare and special

DKW, Mari, and Grave have definitely been used with units that don't have pierce

Seamaids can similarly be used with units that don't have distributed damage. Definitely best to use them with SBS, but they have plenty of other good buffs

[jovial gulch]

https://youtu.be/sDKtnF73-k4

more funny things you can do with helm

works more consistently than with naga

[ivory harbor]

😲

[marble stream]

[ivory harbor]

You don't have one niche dps? No problem! Just build the strongest dpses and supports in the game with one needing favorite item

Nikke investment so good

[prime pagoda]

Will this finally make me hit that SS on her doll?

[lament agate]

Where is XLud bruh

U can alr stage 7 without qq

With Liter Crown Rapipi XLud

Even before Rapipi u alr can tho its harder

[pine echo]

yeah I'm not making it

will take.... about 2 weeks to get to SR14, then another 5 days ish to go from 14 to 15 at 100% rate, assuming 2 golds a day (which I hunt for)

20 days

yeah raid ends in less than 10 days

no chance I hit the 0.000000006% super success rate on my next gold, which is gonna take about 5 days of dispatch resets already, maybe solo raid gets me another gold

y'know

ever since I started following the "optimal" strats

nothing with dolls has gone well

[void swan]

RNG is RNG... From phase 11 onwards you should've had what, a 27.5% chance each? And each phase is x3 golds... so SR11->SR12 you used 3, then SR12->SR13 is another 3..

60 golds without a super? RIP. And the chance was higher for SR12->SR13 (40%)

SR10 through SR15 super success chances

You're now on 60% chance

[pine echo]

no I'm on 0.000000006% chance

I've legit had better luck with my blues

[pine echo]

...

I think I might throw everything at it until SR14 then use a gold

otherwise if I miss my next 1 gold, maybe 2 if lucky..... I won't finish doll by end of event, no chance I get 30 golds

on the other hand if I raw dog it to sr14 I just need 10 gold, which I can get from dispatch anyway

and solo raid drops are mostly blues and purples to begin with

[south aurora]

maybe I could make it in the last day if I get at least 3 of her mats from random drop

[daring mirage]

no way you dont get 3

I’ve seen people say otherwise but I’m 99% sure the random drops will be season 3 treasure only

[rain pawn]

Would be amazing but I doubt.

[south aurora]

actually I opened like 350 random box from dispatch and felt like her mats dropped far less among them

I would’ve lost at least 10

[cedar junco]

Na, u can do do sr15 right now, only need 10 blues

[hoary flame]

You need at least get 2 mats to get her last day

[south aurora]

why 2 when I’m 24 short

[void swan]

So far I calculate I'm at 104 mats if I exchange everything. 2 resets and I'm 110. With solo raid rng drops, I'm probably over

[hoary flame]

You'll have 7 days of dispatch farmig

[south aurora]

that’s why I said 3 more after a week of farming

[tight dust]

SR 14 soon

[weak coyote]

Just in time before soloraid start

[marble stream]

[haughty mural]

pretty strong for water comp where xlud can go off-burst

[pine echo]

SEE

blue super success

screw the optimal strat

going all in raw dog every time

ok maybe I do a single gold each 6-9 and 11-14 range, but if I fail I'm raw dogging it to the next lvl

wasted I think 30+ golds at least on helm trying to go from SR11 to SR15

never again

[void swan]

Where else would you put those gold though?

At this rate you're going to hold onto all your gold and never use them

Which actually sounds great to me if hoarding

[pine echo]

I raw dog everything, I'll throw 10 gold at it if at "optimal" range, but if that fails I'm going blues anyway

never been able to stock up on golds anyway

[charred schooner]

juratus I dont think you can talk cause you lucksacked every 3rd wave treasure

[pine echo]

I've also just golded R10 a couple times in the past

not very often, usually when kits are very skewed

usually prefer purples

[charred schooner]

i just use blue/ purple till SR6/11

[pine echo]

also this means I don't have to sink gems into dispatch rerolls

[charred schooner]

then gold

[pine echo]

been rerolling for x1 or x2 golds for the past week

prob at least a multi worth wasted

[charred schooner]

if that doesnt work then I level with purple/blue till next breakpoint

with purple prio

[pine echo]

glad I didn't keep saving up golds and praying for that "60% chance"

goal was to just raw dog it to SR14 then use a gold guarantee, but blues come in clutch yet again

now still gotta finish rapipi someday...

[charred schooner]

i mean this was just incredibly unlucky

but using all those blues does cuck a lot of SR5 dolls

[pine echo]

all my relevant pvp units are already SR5

so doesn't bother me

non-super meta pve units I just throw on SR0

dmg reduction doesn't matter for them

and they ain't ever gonna get to SR10 anyway

[charred schooner]

ah nice

i still need to get jackal to SR15 eventually

cause shes gonna always be meta for pvp so might as well

[pine echo]

I wouldn't get jackal that beefy

not very useful unless your linked units are dying too fast

other pvp units want it a lot more

biscuit if you use p2 a lot, noise, moran if you use her, etc

in very few non-cp diff situations would jackal need more bulk

the returns are also a lot less since jackal bulk means your linked units don't get any bulkier

since they all take same dmg in link

so it's not even gonna help

[inland badger]

sr15 won't help you against 60 sync difference

[pine echo]

well hopefully won't need to deal with that in champ anyway

[inland badger]

i dont think investing in anything above sr5 for pvp is worth anyway

[pine echo]

same

[inland badger]

except those with treasures

[pine echo]

and if you have to, jackal is very low prio within the pvp units

cp stacking isn't very helpful either, it's not actually that much cp, unless you're very low sync

[inland badger]

the effect is nice, but too expensive

[pine echo]

yeah

did it to crown, slight regret, but not that much bc cp stacking does help a bit in pve

[gusty spoke]

you’ll retract that statement once champ arena rewards turn out to be godly

[inland badger]

it wont

[pine echo]

I won't

[gusty spoke]

[inland badger]

you can quote me on that

SU will fuck up CA

[pine echo]

bc I'll have SR15 noise, biscuit, noah plus a few more before I even touch SR15 jackal

[inland badger]

look at "new" UR

how can you have any hope after such a disaster

[pine echo]

yeah honestly, low hopes

with how often they fck up pvp, esp in the past few months

they stopped giving a shit after rosa and jackal, prob bland gamemode

[daring mirage]

lets go

any SU believers in chat

[rain pawn]

Oh, it is? Beautiful

See, I trust Shift Up, but I don't trust Level Infinite

Until we have regular doll mat packages, I'm assuming LI wants to restrict us as much as possible with dolls/treasures

[quasi spoke]

yep

[sour viper]

still not enough for me

at least s3 treasures are useful and warrant being built

[eternal pine]

I'm so tempted to treasure viper so I can convert the excess treasure to helm one.
Might as well after I p3 helm, I keep my daily instead of changing to other treasure

well, or maybe after drake p3

[chilly rapids]

Is she game changer? I want to treasure her because she's my first, but seem Drake better

[rain pawn]

Helm is without question better unless you have a well fed Tove and B Soda

Outside of SG comp, Drake barely has a purpose

Helm can be put into any team, really

[chilly rapids]

oh
I should change the item to Helm tomorrow then

[rain pawn]

Especially at Phase 3, she's basically a better Noir + Grave for offensive buffs and burst gen with better healing than Blanc on-burst

Her offensive team buffs apply even off-burst, and, while her off-burst healing isn't particularly impressive, it's better than nothing and most importantly works with Crown S2

Easily best treasure we've gotten

[chilly rapids]

Alright, she's going to be my first treasured character... beside, her lobby is top tier

[charred schooner]

i still beat people over 100k cp than me sometimes

their teams are shit they just cp diff me due to levels

[inland badger]

what's your total cp ?

[charred schooner]

on average for my pvp teams its around 500k-520k