[Rei Ayanami (Tentative Name)] New Unit Megathread

[sand flint]

so what would be their team?

[lunar gale]

wait

[brave lark]

gonna depend on the raid itself honestly

[lunar gale]

that is her name

tentative name

is her name

[sand flint]

i suppose, general use then?

[brave lark]

like at this point I believe blanc/noir might officially be dead in terms of top 5 supports for comps

so you're kinda shuffling around where pirate duo/crown/grave/mari/tiga go

[tender matrix]

noir next skill reset

[brave lark]

can't reset them still if you tryhard in UR though 🤡

[sand flint]

what about no pirates?

[brave lark]

🧱 but otherwise yeah sure they get to live then

blanc also gets to survive if you care for pvp as well

[analog surge]

whats the minumum investment here guys

[sand flint]

i got mast but no anchor did like 100+ pulls to not even get a single ssr

[sand flint]

well if crown on other team, rouge/blanc would be used with cindy comp?

[brave lark]

from what I've seen when tryharding at least it's crown>grave=mari>blanc for cindy comps

[hard glade]

So on reflection, I'm curious about campaign or tribe tower team performance with this:
Crown, Rapi Hood, W Asuka, TN Rei, Naga/HelmTr

If somebody built them and wants to try, lmk how that goes

[sand flint]

mari is really that good?

[brave lark]

yup

[sand flint]

damn, i never use her most of the time

is she just like a side grade to grave?

[fallen compass]

More or less. Both are B2 Pierce Supports with a lot of Burst Gen

[brave lark]

yeah pretty much

[fallen compass]

The major difference is that Mari slots into Electric teams (when we don't have many Electric Pierce units yet), while Grave is a Fire unit that benefits from the "Oops all Fire units" team with Asuka OG and ReiA

[tender matrix]

huh never saw a grave for cindy team, alway saw crown > mari > blanc

[brave lark]

was used during behemoth

[fallen compass]

A lot of the top raid teams for Cindy DID use Grave

[tender matrix]

oooh

[sand flint]

gotcha

[fallen compass]

Even putting aside Grave's Pierce focus, Grave a) is useful for hitting multiple parts and b) setting up back-to-back Full Bursts with her cracked burst generation

It might not be optimal, but it's still pretty good depedning on the raid

[pastel shale]

skill invesment for rei?

[brave lark]

needs real world testing but might be 7/4/7 max

[hard glade]

S1 does a lot of work for TN Rei personal damage, and for W Asuka's bursting AoE damage, but you can get by with Lv 1-4 if you disdain both TN Rei personal damage and +10.4%-17.6% caster's ATK buff for W Asuka's bursting.

S2 does very little for TN Rei personal damage, and for allies. Definitely Lv 1-4 if you disdain +6.86%-+11.61% caster's ATK buff for Full Burst.

Burst does a lot for TN Rei personal damage and has an AoE nuke. You can get by with Lv 1-4 if you disdain TN Rei personal damage and the AoE nuke.

Alright, seems like TN Rei is a very good candidate for 4/4/4 if you simply don't care about her personal damage. That means if you're somebody who doesn't even want to OL her, just stick with 4/4/4. Especially if you also only have her at 0LB.

She will be trash at buffing the team, but the baseline buffing will be there. W Asuka will still stack Anti A.T. Field way faster, get some "free" caster's ATK from TN Rei, etc

4/4/4 is also good if you hope one day to just throw out TN Rei and pair W Asuka with somebody else

But if you want maximize TN Rei personal damage with efficient skilling, looks like 7/4/7 is correct

TL:DR; imo:

TN Rei skill priority:
Minimal: 4/4/4
Suggested: 7/4/7

Benefits of Suggested: Mainly higher TN Rei personal damage.

• Stick with Minimal if you don't care about TN Rei doing more damage.

[tender ice]

So how much damage rei give on asuka?

[tender ice]

Do we really need her?

[brave lark]

thanks for doing all the work jura

[hard glade]

At least +25% I think. Even at 4/4/4.

Gatrix would be able to confirm so ping him

[tender ice]

Damn

[brave lark]

yes if you have AsukaW

if you don't then no

[tender ice]

25% is pretty huge...

[hard glade]

I might've exaggerated a tad with 25%, but should be 20%-25% range

It's because of two reasons:

• W Asuka will receive about 20% of TN Rei's base ATK when W Asuka bursts, while TN Rei's at 4/4/4
• W Asuka will stack Anti A.T. Field way quicker with TN Rei's help, which increases enemy's dmg taken sooner
  • W Asuka normally would max stack it already but takes 5 seconds

[tender ice]

Hmmm

While i should really use the gold miles for rei

[hard glade]

Edited to have 2 reasons

[tender ice]

I really want that asuka mlb lobby

[hard glade]

Hmm, 10 shots from W Asuka to stack 1 Anti A.T. Field, normally?

And max stack of 30

How many seconds is that without TN Rei?

300 shots to max stack, 5 seconds

Then the time for it to max with TN Rei is...?

3 seconds to gain +20 Anti A.T. Field from TN Rei

Basically reduces it from 5 seconds to 3 seconds or so. There're wasted stacks at the 3 seconds mark, but it's the fastest to the max 30 stacks

Not that impressive, I guess. 2 added seconds but I suppose we'll take that

[tender ice]

Hmmmm

The other benefits is the faster mg spool up after burst end right?

[hard glade]

Yeah, this just made me more certain W Asuka can survive without TN Rei. It's just an issue of whether you actually have someone else good for the slot. Especially Wind being strong element

TN Rei can be a 3rd or 4th good Wind DPS with the bulk of her help going to W Asuka

[tender ice]

But most of asuka damage came from burst so it does not seems like the mg spool up buff is that important

[hard glade]

Believe so

[tender ice]

Should be fine if we have sbs

[gentle light]

Time for a very unprofessional test. It'll be hilarious and sad of Rei does better than Noir lmao

No blue lines on Noir btw

[tender ice]

Noir got her 15 minutes fame

Its now for her and blanc to retire again

[silk spruce]

[empty sun]

I unironically think noir team could do better in this situation

[gentle light]

Noir team

Noir didn't have a cube, so Rei won't have one either

Tho maybe I should give Rei a cube because she have no OL gear

Fuck it, Rei gets the Resilience cube

Rei team wiped at 30 seconds left

So theoretically more damage, but it's a pain to survive

[hard glade]

You tried TN Rei as a non-bursting winggirl? Bold

[gentle light]

Didn't know who to swap out

Both SBS and Rapipi do more damage

[tender matrix]

So if u are going to use rei as a buffer then the cost are 4/4/4 and just 4 rocks

[gentle light]

Well. didn't have access to OL gear for Rei

[tender matrix]

Was more meant for juratus after i read his comments

[tender matrix]

Rei in kraken is pretty bad even fully build i think, coz like u said burst gen and better dpsers

[hard glade]

Yeah. Basically there are caster's atk buffs in Rei's kit and it'll go up if you push for higher S1 or S2, they'll help W Asuka.

But only the S1 scales nicely and helps TN Rei more, while leveling S2 barely helps the team more than leaving it at 4.

And there are baseline stuff that won't improve even if you level S1 or S2.

[gentle light]

omegarip

Guess she'll just be another soloraid fill

[tender ice]

SU ceo eva girl bias really showing itself here

[hard glade]

I think it's actually real nice because skill book efficiency is high with both characters

Could go 7/4/4 on W Asuka and 7/4/7 on TN Rei, or just be outright cheapskate 4/4/4 on both

Maybe only go for 7/4/4 on W Asuka

[gentle light]

tbh yeah

[hard glade]

If you're trying to maximize W Asuka as hard as you can, you can't skip OLing her and you must get at least 7/4/7 or 10/7/10 or 10/10/10

[gentle light]

Just know that more copies = slightly more solo raid damage

[hard glade]

If you're trying to be efficient and have resources for other characters in the future, you can get by with 4/4/4 or 7/4/7 and idk about the OL thing because caster's ATK uses the raw stats on the gear right? Not the effects, but helmet ATK etc

And the raw stats on dolls too?

So if you're fighting over top 10 or w/e in Solo Raid, you've got your work cut out because another true competitive raider will doll her, OL Lv5 her, and 10/10/10 her, and their W Asuka will completely leave yours in the dust

And there aren't more than 3 really good Wind DPS around

Standard 4 atk, 4 ele, and her procs use Final Attack

[tender matrix]

Fk i forgot this rei can be used as nuker in pvp

[hard glade]

1-2 Ammo to let her avoid reloading middle of Full Burst more than once

It should be a yes, unfortunately

[tender matrix]

Alrdy mlb asukaW but 0lb rei

[hard glade]

Fair enough, idk that tbh

In someone's screenshot, TN Rei did 1.7b dmg - was W Asuka 5b + TN Rei 1.7b versus W Asuka 4b + BS Scarlet 4b, roughly

And the TN Rei team lost by about 2.5b, but there was room for growth

[tender ice]

Thats just an estimate right?

[hard glade]

Hmm, so conclusion is it sounds like TN Rei can't be justified enough to pursue optimal OL effects?

[tender matrix]

It is our unpaid intern math guy

[tender ice]

[silk spruce]

Meth*

[hard glade]

That's a lot 👀

[tender ice]

Anyway better get a guy who fully invest in rei to test

[hard glade]

Well, unless we already have 10+ pieces of the same gear But that'll eventually run out

Someday

With 10 abnormal attacker gear per slot that's going to take at least 5 collabs with 2 attackers in each worthy of OLing

[tender ice]

Less so for abnormal

Im still waiting for GIST collab

[empty sun]

Rei being mid makes me sad

[tender ice]

When are we gonna get a buffed proportion Makoto Kusanagi

[tender ice]

Good

[manic raft]

Except you're not considering that other AI bosses also give rocks

and Kraken doesn't have a 100% chance to give more than 1 rock

I've gotten more rocks from Indivilia in the last week than I've gotten gear

[empty sun]

Should've skipped whole evangelion collab just like first time. Asuka slightly better than alice and rei not
Ew

[manic raft]

Yes, and give it takes 10 days to get the gear you want estimated, then you're not missing out on 10 rocks

cuz you'll get rocks from the other bosses

lol

One rock per day average assuming it actually takes 10 days to get what you need

Looks like I miscalculated my alt's gear exp supplies, so no useful testing from me until this weekend

[hard glade]

I think the EVA 2 collab’s good though, it’s a new Wind powerhouse

[manic raft]

Although already getting only about ~500 mil loss from HelmT to ReiTN with a 46% ele Rei TN with two +0 OLs two T9M and 1/1/1

Looking good imo

[hard glade]

Unless ShiftUp goes on a bender and release 3 more Wind carries that must burst, W Asuka and TN Rei will be around for a long time

[sullen bough]

Should I just sr0 Rei

[manic raft]

SR0 isn't worth anymore

It's just straight-up loss

And she's AR, so if people can actually manage real DPS with her, you definitely don't want to go cheap with the doll since core damage buffs are juicy

She's also Caster's ATK buffs, which the doll does influence

[hard glade]

Why did they have to be collab characters though

Most players are going to be 0LB-MLB, and most also won’t have the skill resources to go past 7/4/4 W Asuka and 7/4/7 TN Rei unless they really like them or make them their main team

[manic raft]

Skills can be fixed over time

And cores don't matter for most players

[hard glade]

OLs for +60%-100% Ele Dmg too And +20%-50% ATK

Did you calculate how many rocks on average it’d take for 8/12?

Starting with T9Ms (aka no OLs)

[manic raft]

OLs can also be fixed over time, so them being collab characters isn't relevant there either

[hard glade]

Oh, if it’s about that, there is really only one spot of concern and it’s that there’s no manu tower for Abnormal

[manic raft]

Normal tower

[hard glade]

The Abnormal manu type’s only setback is breakthroughs

Since no gradual gathering of copies from spooks or wishlist

[manic raft]

The bigger problem is that they simply won't be here anymore after this month

Any new players coming in will ask vets what comps to use for fire-weak and wind-weak raids and be flat out of luck

just as it was in the past with NieR

Oh, don't have 2B? Well, just cope with Crow

It's fine if you have only LB0. The unit can still be made plenty powerful

Anyone who needs the cores is likely spending

Only people who could manage top ranks in SR (where the cores matter most) are extremely long-term F2P or spenders

[sullen bough]

Even my Asuka is still R1..maintenance kits are just too rare

[manic raft]

Heavy dispatch resetting mandatory

[dawn basalt]

she has a cute butt

[hard glade]

Important things

[empty sun]

Nevermind i don't regret spending that 200 mileage tickets

[tender ice]

They definitely buffed the assets this time around

Both asuka w and rei TN have somewhat larger booba and booty

More pronounce in rei

Tho they did not buff it too much

Probably to keep the nge aesthetic

Or licensing

Yes licensing actually matters

Thats why some car game lacks damage model or not have specific cars outright

[dim parrot]

So, how good are Asuka and rei? Are they good or did I just waste 40k gems on mana 2.0?

[manic raft]

AsukaW is good for sure

Rei's worth is still up for debate

[dim parrot]

Even with Asuka there?

Maybe I shouldn't have mob her xd

Mlb

[finite spruce]

I'd say worth just for the fact she buffs asuka

[dim parrot]

I got a double and wanted to go all in

[finite spruce]

Also limited

[manic raft]

Power was limited as well, but no amount of gems was worth pulling her

[dim parrot]

It left me dry, but I got all 5 , and 400 tickets for anu

Ani

[finite spruce]

CSM is mid anyway

[tender ice]

Just do it

[finite spruce]

[ripe python]

Someone test both rei nuke dmg in pvp

If their bursts are buffed by their burst buffs, they should be similar, I wanna know if reit can do more with same buffs

[wary aspen]

How do I get Rei?

[errant epoch]

[wary aspen]

Time to push tower to 950

[manic raft]

Comparison with HelmT as off-burst. Rei currently 4/7/4 with two OLs,

[amber compass]

yay i got her 40 pulls

are they worth it for kraken?

[manic raft]

Elevated to 4/7/7 for on-burst testing

Almost an S8 without SBS

[dim parrot]

So, is rei Asuka better than Sbs Asuka? I don't get it

[manic raft]

No clue since my Rei's not good enough yet; gonna keep investing over the course of this next week

but important takeaway is that Asuka/Rei is at least comparable to SBS/Alice or Mana, which means guaranteed use in wind-weak raids

Okay, is anyone else getting a bug where Rei doesn't appear in Nikke list?

[analog prawn]

I don't know if Mana is gonna even exist this wind raid lol

[manic raft]

[analog prawn]

Might be dead on arrival

[analog prawn]

Accidentally put a filter on the list?

[manic raft]

No, she appears if I use a filter

Actually

It's just with Burst III filter that she doesn't show up

[analog prawn]

She's above Epinel

[manic raft]

Oh

Skill issue

[analog prawn]

[hard glade]

Quiry issue

[manic raft]

Guess it's back to sleep with me Can't do any quality testing without full OLs anyway

Are we getting another full burst weekend this weekend?

[analog prawn]

Pretty sure we are

And I know I desperately need it

[manic raft]

[analog prawn]

All my rocks down the drain that is AsukaW

[manic raft]

I'm fine on rocks, but I need gear exp desperately

Although planning to empty rocks on Rei

Might not have to with my current luck tho

[manic raft]

Already in good shape with the first two

[analog prawn]

At this rate I'm gonna be entering soloraid with a 12 line Asuka and a 4 line Rei lol

[manic raft]

Aside from maybe rerolling some max ammo into ATK, Asuka's in too good a place for me to touch her much more

[analog prawn]

My first piece on Asuka I still need to reroll a bunch, it has no elemental damage

My other three are done other than maybe rerolling some stats to be higher

Almost there, but Rei is gonna have to wait a bit longer

Lower damage = lower priority

[manic raft]

Mhm

I definitely won't do much with her on my main account

Wind isn't a big priority for it

I'll take low top 200 and be happy

[analog prawn]

You're gonna burn yourself out having multiple accounts

[manic raft]

I always do this

I'm actually running four atm

Two are low priority tho

[analog prawn]

[manic raft]

Can't burn myself out if I enjoy the game

[rapid bane]

Should I pull for new rei or old rei?

[simple crater]

Only pull new Rei if you have AsukaW.

[rapid bane]

I have AsukaW

[simple crater]

Old Rei is pretty niche

[hard glade]

All three Reis are expendable

[sick bluff]

Anyone tested her s2 yet?

How it works

I can only login after 13h more

[tender ice]

You joke, but feels like even with asuka w

The new rei kinda feel not worth getting

All she does is buff asuka and her dps wise still meh

[hard glade]

I tested rather casually, I tried Crown, Rapi Hood, W Asuka, TN Rei, HelmTr

[tender ice]

And only asuka

[hard glade]

Felt underwhelming for MG help

I mean, everybody reloaded fast

[tender ice]

Her buff to anyone other than asuka is miniscule

[hard glade]

You’d need a team that suffered from lack of ammo or reload speed help

[tender ice]

Making you wonder wouldn't it be better just put in another dps

[violet lark]

crown is just too busted as support

[hard glade]

With the way wind dps is, likely to maximize in upcoming Solo Raid one team will be pirate maids with BS Scarlet and other team will be Crown with W Asuka

Idk the rest but that used up all the good wind dps except for Summer Sakura

She doesn’t need reload or ammo

[violet lark]

well, summer sakura have summer rosanna that works for her
but ehh

who still have good skill investment summer rosanna

[tender ice]

I only pull Summer rosanna for the lobby screen

Feels like even old rei has more uses than new rei

[crystal anvil]

new Rei is just Asuka W's slave

part of the skill is directly tie to her, unlike OG Rei

[sick bluff]

it's not called test

it's lego

put Rei in team with a MG then burst that MG, see if wind up even exists

put Rei in team with Asuka, burst Asuka then see how wind up works

inb4 someone said: Why don't you test her yourself

[crystal anvil]

Why don't you test her yourself

[sick bluff]

I will

but not now

[crystal anvil]

m san a little bit too hard huh

[sick bluff]

nah, same stuff, except fighting motherwhale = fps drop

"clicking too fast, we got ya smart boy"

[crystal anvil]

pretty agile fingers for an old man

[hard glade]

Oh no, there go the dailies

[hard glade]

Oh that. Yes it’s gone

Wind Up is gone

[tender ice]

But how much ot worth?

[hard glade]

There seemed to be a small lag for the first shot though

[tender ice]

Extra 3 sec?

[hard glade]

But then after that it’s full bore fully heated up

Unlike the usual situation of MG shooting a bunch and basically wildly missing

And growing more accurate

[tender ice]

I guess thats useful for maybe rapipi

[hard glade]

Yep she’s the main beneficiary

[tender ice]

Since she can launch nades faster

[hard glade]

The rest have circumstances or mechanics that make it redundant

Like X Lud selfbuffs reload speed for 20 seconds

Unless you don’t burst on her

And if so that’s moot because to get the benefit from TN Rei, your MG has to burst

Since you’re pairing W Asuka with TN Rei, that leaves you with room only for a B1 MG and B2 MG at most

Unless you make TN Rei the winggirl that doesn’t burst

Then you can try bringing 4 MGs

[sick bluff]

what's gone

other MG or Ashitka

or you, gone with the wind

[hard glade]

So, what happens is, the MG units that bursted will have no heating up period when they reload and resume shooting. They will simply start firing as if they had a snap reload moment that didn’t give their heat time to cool down

Ignore this. Misleading. Crown probably bamboozled me.

[sick bluff]

nice

goat sp for Rapi B1

[hard glade]

Yep

[sick bluff]

how about Ashitka

a small lag?

[hard glade]

Yeah. The first shot seemed to have a gap or something, but then she goes brrrr

[sick bluff]

alright, I will verify those later on

after being released

should rename into Bkon

cuz I'm also konvicted

[hard glade]

I reverified to be more careful

[dim parrot]

So, how good is rei for Asuka?

[hard glade]

They will shoot about 3-5 shots that misses enemy core

[dim parrot]

Compared to just use sbs instead

[hard glade]

Then the rest will be line laser to the enemy core

Okay

I finished testing, turns out I was mistaken

It’s just doubled heatup speed

[dim parrot]

???

[dim parrot]

What does that means?

[hard glade]

Let’s say MG that wasn’t shooting is at 0% heated up. It’ll have like -100% hit rate penalty or something crazy.

MG starts shooting. As the shots are fired, it heats up, removing the hit rate penalty. Eventually, it reaches no penalty and the MG is basically laser shooting the enemy - virtually perfect accuracy.

What TN Rei does is it doubles the heatup rate of MGs that bursted.

So if the MG has to do a slow reload, and cools down to having the massive hit rate penalty again, it’ll take half the time to heat up once it resumes shooting. If the buff is still on them.

[dim parrot]

I know what heat up is, just don't know what rei does exactly

She cuts the time in half or?

[hard glade]

So not exactly as amazing as we hoped @sick bluff

[hard glade]

Yes. It’s like burst gen in a sense?

[sick bluff]

I see

so 2.33s wind up becomes => 1.15s

damn, B tier

🚮

[hard glade]

Yeah that

[dim parrot]

@hard glade and leaving the heat up thing aside, damage wise is it better to use her as Asuka partner or sbs instead?

If she can't even do that then idk why I pulled xd

[hard glade]

In campaign it’s w/e works for victory, I think EVA 2 duo does well but W Asuka is susceptible to obstruction (doesn’t pierce) and attrition (doesn’t lifeleech)

Unlike old Asuka that has both

[dim parrot]

And bosses?

[hard glade]

In uhh… Anomaly right? BS Scarlet and W Asuka seems better

[dim parrot]

Uh

[hard glade]

Two dps carries better than one dps carry with elite helper, basically

Because of elemental advantage

[dim parrot]

So, she's bad?

Damm

[hard glade]

As for raiding, the EVA 2 duo is also very good, because 5 teams. Enough space. Wind carries aren’t saturated yet

[dim parrot]

Oh, well at least that's something

[hard glade]

Also idk if it matters to you but TN Rei can winggirl (not burst) and still buff W Asuka

It neuters TN Rei’s personal dps though

That can be leveraged if needed like if you are doing neutral element raid

Because TN Rei personal dps isn’t that amazing without elemental damage

Curse of the assault rifle

[dim parrot]

Really I just care about rais and kraken, cuz for non elemental advantage teams I can just use my campaign team xd

Well, of she is useful for raid that's enough for me, I was doubting if going for the mlb was a good idea xd

[hard glade]

I think it’s best when it combos with some reload speed

[dim parrot]

(I got 2 copies on the same pull and didn't want to leave her eternally at 1 star)

[ripe python]

How much range is wille aoe now

[hard glade]

Seems to be made for Crown and Bastion, possibly

Like Crown team but all the MGs equip Bastion instead of Resilience

[dim parrot]

So for wind roads whats gonna a be now? Sbs with Alice and maids,and crown with helm and Eva girls?

[hard glade]

I didn’t test that, I’ll try it now

[dim parrot]

Wind raids*

[waxen terrace]

feels skippable

[sick bluff]

just use Resi

no more wind up

[hard glade]

Quite the distance

[hard glade]

Felt pretty big

Like Rapi Hood B3 AoE big radius but max of 3 targets

[sick bluff]

ah yeah, forgot she

• Helps Asuka ramp debuff faster. From 5s => 3s
• Helps Asuka gain more splash dmg (2 targets => 3 targets)
• Helps Asuka check bigger radius

I guess she helps Asuka get past heating up faster too

lame, but in the end, you still want her cuz SBS Alice and Asuka Rei seems better than random ass SBS Asuka and Alice goes where she pleases

[ripe python]

I can't believe I spent so many pulls and didn't get this mid unit

Actually I can believe it, already happened before with rem

[dim parrot]

Poor rei, the niche unit from the bunch on both occasions

[ripe python]

[sick bluff]

Pvp: SS

[ripe python]

Did her dmg get tested and compared with rei

Also what's reit gen

[sick bluff]

test for me if her burst is instant noodle like Hongbukki

[dim parrot]

Ups, I drooped as something

[hard glade]

Visual evidence of the boosted distance. I was shooting far left. Two enemies in center got hit as I shot

[sick bluff]

ah her S1 works differently

[ripe python]

Oh that's pretty good for bosses with adds

[hard glade]

It was actually annoying to get this evidence because of vertical depth

[sick bluff]

remove Rei, you should still achieve this result

[hard glade]

I couldn’t control well who she’d hit because of the max targets

So had to kill everything else

Okay, removing Rei and trying

RIP, yeah it still happened without Rei

What’s the point of +500% range?

[dim parrot]

Could it be the kit is actually bugged?

[hard glade]

No, might be weapon type bonus? But why

Checking that now

[dim parrot]

Like, how the heat up speed doesn't works as the other speed boots is really sus

[ripe python]

Rei, more like Reidundant

[dim parrot]

And now the range buff does nothing either

[vivid sage]

Rei.T worth golden ticket?

Got shafted again

[dim parrot]

So far, now

No

[vivid sage]

Why

[dim parrot]

Read above

[vivid sage]

100+ messages?

[dim parrot]

Asuka works almost the same without rei

[vivid sage]

Ain’t reading allat 💀

[dim parrot]

Is still better than having mana as the second B3 or something

So, idk your choice

[sick bluff]

500% is when you start hitting S1

[dim parrot]

If you are a solo raid maniac I guess go for it

Sbs is glued to Alice and maids anyways so she'll probably be part of the second team with Asuka and I wanna assume rapi and crown

And helm

[sick bluff]

the S1 structure goes like this

• Check anywhere from the map the target nearest your cursor. Hit it
• Then check whichever 's near the first target. That's where Rei's radius buff is required

[finite spruce]

Turns asuka's S1 into a screen wiper

[hard glade]

Oh

Then how do I accurately test this with ease

[sick bluff]

hit the target and see when it goes isolate, is there any other mob damaged

[hard glade]

Team has to burst, and wave enemies in shooting range are killable

So by the time I get to test, the enemies die or are badly clustered or too far

It’s a mess

[sick bluff]

stop running against wind weak enemies

[hard glade]

It was against Water…

[sick bluff]

and eh, run mercenary Asuka

[hard glade]

I’ll just do scope lock

[sick bluff]

who has 300 ammo, no OL

[hard glade]

That should help

That too, sure

[dim parrot]

Me but, idk if I can help at all

[hard glade]

Got it

Pretty good distance between the two enemies under attack

[dim parrot]

So she DOES do something

[hard glade]

I never tested it without TN Rei, trying it now

Okay, it was pretty bad. Very small. I couldn’t get it to work

Nothing like what my screenshot just now showed

500% attack range is a big bump

[ripe python]

Reideemed?

[sick bluff]

no, shit

but you still roll her

I know it

[ripe python]

[errant epoch]

only 1 copy is good right

most of the dps is on asukaw

[hard glade]

Here, the enemies had to hug - front two

[ripe python]

Tbh the range thing prob reirly useful anyway

Who gonna use them outside of boss fights...

[crystal anvil]

0 copy is also okay

[hard glade]

Hmm might need drawing to be more clear

[lusty fjord]

Do i need rei for asuka

[sick bluff]

no you don't, but she brings some QoL

[errant epoch]

what about that faster s1 stacking

[tender ice]

Old asuka lack that curse

Best girl indeed

[hard glade]

Left image: NOT buffing W Asuka’s Annihilation State with 500% attack range. 2 enemies are hit.
Right image: YES buffing… 3 enemies are hit.

• Gold line is center detection (must find an enemy within it).
• Red line is radius around center of additional effect AoE.

It was explained to me that W Asuka’s S1 will first search for an initial enemy to center the AoE on. That’s the gold line.

Then the S1 will blast that enemy with the AoE, hitting up to X other nearby enemies. That’s the red line. 1 nearby enemy if no TN Rei, 2 nearby enemies if yes TN Rei.

Be amazed by my drawing skills.

[tender ice]

Fuckers purposely still let old asuka keep pierce after burst

[lusty fjord]

Ah

[tender ice]

SU CEO waifu indeed

[hard glade]

@ripe python Hope this is “nicer”

But yes looks like this will help a lot with picking off weak adds that ran anywhere onto the screen if boss is in center

Downside is W Asuka has to be bursting, so it’s not every burst

[waxen terrace]

Rei kinda shit bro someone show Alice SBS Vs Asuka Rei

[tender ice]

Alice x sbs still better but asuka x sbs is the best

But in the end you gonna run more than 1 team in UR and SR anyway

[ripe python]

someone compare 2.5rl scar vs reit nuke in pvp, esp with blanc rh buffer

that's her only chance to be good

[tender ice]

Pvp

Welp

Not gonna bother

[haughty grove]

So Rei, yay or nay?

[waxen terrace]

Asuka Rei > Alice SBS on wind confirmed

[tender ice]

Only useful as asuka bitch as 2nd team in wind UR and SR

[haughty grove]

SBS/Rapipi/Crown/Asuka 2/Rei 2 for AI Kraken?

Hmm, can't, no healer...

[analog prawn]

No healer and more importantly no burst gen

[haughty grove]

Yeah... Mana again

[analog prawn]

If the goal is to hit S7 asap,

Rapipi/Mari or Grave/AsukaW/SBS/ReiT might be faster than other teams?

If the goal is auto then you need Noah or HelmT and everyone SR15 dolls

[tender ice]

Is noah good?

[analog prawn]

For damage, no

For not dying to a failed QTE, yes

[hard glade]

Without Noah, if you instead insert some other dps or healer there, then 2/5 of team survives Kraken failed QTE

With Noah, who debuffs boss and taunts projectiles onto herself, then 5/5 of team survives Kraken failed QTE (needs dolls on the attackers though)

Then with HelmTr's help, whole team heals once elemental barrier drops

[tender ice]

I guess marciana works

[hard glade]

If you play the fight and actively break the QTE, it's a lot easier

Just no afk

[tender ice]

What about naga?

[tender ice]

Ah then its no issue

[hard glade]

Naga works but Kraken has a tendency to one shot Naga in late phases

Since Anomaly bosses gain significant bonus dmg vs weak elements. Kraken's Iron. Naga's Electric

Iron > Electric

[tender ice]

Oof

[hard glade]

You could keep retrying until Naga survives

[tender ice]

Im still in process of getting helmT

Need another dupe

[analog prawn]

No silver mileage?

[tender ice]

Getting it

20 more pulls

[ripe python]

does she even deserve ol

[waxen terrace]

yes

[waxen terrace]

^^

this can only happen if Rei is well invested

[hard glade]

TN Rei scales quite a lot and so does W Asuka

Cheap player vs Allin player, the Allin will dmg gap the Cheap big time

But what is allin? Allin is:
MCBs
12/12 OL effects
10/7/7 W Asuka (or 10/10/10)
10/7/10 TN Rei (or 10/10/10)

And what is cheap? Cheap is:
0LB or MLB
4/12 or 8/12 OL effects
4/4/4 W Asuka (or 7/4/4)
4/4/4 TN Rei (or 7/4/7)

The dmg gap is deserved

[waxen terrace]

rei isnt 12/12

she only needs 4 ele 4 atk

[hard glade]

Fixed

[waxen terrace]

oh actually

rei needs some ammo

4 ele 4 atk 2-4 ammo angle

[hard glade]

Stabbing someone then fixing

[waxen terrace]

1.5s reload speed

[hard glade]

It's not meant to be a guide or gospel though

Just examples

[waxen terrace]

and her normals actually do damage

pull one copy of both

[waxen terrace]

rei lower prio

[hard glade]

Oh, you're Snake Name changes throw me off sometime

[restive orchid]

is Rei or Asuka worth MLB?

[serene estuary]

How much does Rei buff up/matter for AsukaW

cause this banner is taking me to deep waters man

I can't breathe

[waxen terrace]

asuka is kinda worth but only if youre a spender/competitive player

[waxen terrace]

16-20% buff

practically speaking

[serene estuary]

that's pretty damn good ngl

[waxen terrace]

15% at 7/2/7

[hard glade]

My estimate was higher at 20% to 25%, but probably got diluted once W Asuka stacks on the good OL effects

[serene estuary]

especially for the upcoming SR

Do we know who else they're most likely gonna be paired with

for off-ele, and with advantage

[serene estuary]

ic

[waxen terrace]

no i am not good in SR teambuilding

but i can tell u for sure that theyre worth it

asuka is worth mileage

[hard glade]

Take it with a grain of salt, since deeper builders could unleash better on the last days of SR, but I suspect it'll be Crown + Rapi Hood + EVA 2

Since TN Rei affects bursted MGs' time to heat up and Crown reduces reload time so much that the combination of both gives more dps uptime than either by themselves
Not a big benefit but it's something

[serene estuary]

I got lb2 Asuka, was trying to MLB but I got greedy

Now I can't get Rei in 70 multis

I'm out of gas

[serene estuary]

Makes sense tbh at least for with ele advantage

[hard glade]

Yep, the idea is pirate maids maximize BS Scarlet and Crown maximizes EVA 2

Then you figure out wtf to do with the other 3 teams

[ripe python]

I assume wille is prio to have lvl 10 skills before reit is for lvl 7?

7/4/7 / 4/4/4 rn

[hard glade]

Idk the math on that unfortunately, need to summon the @sick bluff

Now pardon me, I need to run and hide from the summoned beast

[sick bluff]

[crystal anvil]

caged beast

eta 9 hours

[serene estuary]

SR is on March 6th?

Are we expecting any rewards/codes or any source of gems until then or no

[crystal anvil]

i guess i'm giving her 3 pieces

that arm is reserved for Eve

guess the NIkke

[ripe python]

initials rolls, cs, definitely wille or reit

also bc it's in this thread

[crystal anvil]

OG Rei actually

4x cs line

that's when i know i shouldn't reroll

yeah, better keep them for pvp

[ripe python]

ain't doing nothing for pvp on a mg

reroll for ele tbh if you feel like it

[crystal anvil]

when CA arrive

[restive orchid]

OG Asuka is stronger than new Asuka

is OG Rei stronger than new Rei?

[crystal anvil]

OG Rei and Asuka are much more versatile that's for sure

ReiT is a scam

[restive orchid]

they really hate Rei 💀

mid unit twice

[ripe python]

...

4/4/4 no ol rei when blanc and rh buffed does more dmg than 7/4/7 4OL 4 stack scar

[hard glade]

We're probably underestimating ReiT

She has a lot of scaling going on, we'll see what happens when the top 5 raiders show up in SR

[ripe python]

this is just me coping for pvp

[hard glade]

Just, I'm not willing to invest that hard on her

[ripe python]

need to know if reit version of double buff nuke can still outspeed 3rl sanis

or if the lost of gen from reit is enough to hit noah

[hard glade]

Well

Idk if it'll matter but if W Asuka bursts, she will hit 3 targets with procs while shooting

While TN Rei is in same team

Any viability with EVA 2 being together in team in PvP?

[ripe python]

no

[hard glade]

Compare it to Summer Anis proccing every shot during her burst

[ripe python]

reit is just for nuke, if nuke doesn't kill you prob lose

wille should have 0 use in pvp

esp when rapipi is better, even if wille has splash in pvp

eva 2.0 comp isn't reaching 2nd burst

[analog surge]

rei t better nuke than aunc rei?

[ripe python]

apparently yes

[analog surge]

[ripe python]

lemme test with og rei, similar invest

og rei is dumb

dmg number only shows when she's selected for some reason

nah 1/4/7 og rei does more than them both

when normallized for same burst lvl

.... they do same dmg

[waxen terrace]

easily yes

scarlet

rei

[analog surge]

[waxen terrace]

sync stats 471

[analog surge]

which one nuke faster?

[ripe python]

both reis do same dmg when normallized for equal burst lvl (equallized to lvl 4)

[waxen terrace]

same time

[analog surge]

about the same?

[sick bluff]

nice, SS tier

[ripe python]

so if both bursts are high lvl, reit should be slightly better

[sick bluff]

only lower than shit let due to no reflect

[ripe python]

since her buffs also scale on burst

[waxen terrace]

Im fixing this shit tier list

[analog surge]

what about the burst gen

[sick bluff]

fix guide too

[ripe python]

eh...

[waxen terrace]

u fix asuka i write rei

[ripe python]

actually nvm even higher lvl they should be about same dmg still

[analog surge]

scarlet's use is her s2, sadly rei dont have that :/

[sick bluff]

do you really really care about Ar's burst gen?

like, does that 2 3% diff can even make a diff lol

[ripe python]

it does

[waxen terrace]

lemme check rei rq

[analog surge]

even 1 less off matters to me

[ripe python]

reit/blanc/rh/centi/jackal is lower gen than scarlet variant

that matters a lot for outspeeding noah sanis

[analog surge]

^

[sick bluff]

well good for you, I never consider building a team that requires 2% more from AR

[ripe python]

how how much gen does a sanis team give in this situation

not sure how to read it

[waxen terrace]

rei (og)

same atk stat for all

[waxen terrace]

new rei > old rei = scarlet

[ripe python]

left team should be 2.5rl, so do I use the high range for sanis team feed?

[ripe python]

that diff seems way too high

[waxen terrace]

its correct

[ripe python]

not from my shooting range testing

[analog surge]

new rei is also less feeding which is good

[ripe python]

if normalizing reit burst multi only to lvl 7, they do basically same dmg

[waxen terrace]

i mean its just simple math

u can do it

base atk * atk buff * attack damage * nuke value

[ripe python]

yes and I'm still getting same dmg

[waxen terrace]

lemme just redo

[ripe python]

did you factor in og rei self buffs

[waxen terrace]

yes

reitn > Rei = Scarlet

considerebly higher

[silk spruce]

[ripe python]

ok found out why

it's due to skill diff

[waxen terrace]

what

[ripe python]

top left is max rei, top right is max reit

bottom left is rei but with the self atk and atk dmg values of 1/4/7

bottom right is reit but same conditions at 4/4/4

reit lost way more self buffs than rei with that skill diff

[waxen terrace]

so she has better scaling

higher scaling

[ripe python]

so that even if I normalize for burst multi, it still loses all the edge

yeah

[waxen terrace]

damn

[ripe python]

well at least it's only in the burst

can ignore s1 s2 for pvp

[waxen terrace]

who is sync 400 here

[ripe python]

there's something sus with reit in pvp

is this supposed to be large aoe mini-nuke

I thought it was supposed to be a ST thing

[sick bluff]

ST

they always write it like that

[ripe python]

she's doing followup hits on nikkes she's not targeting right after burst in pvp

[sick bluff]

really

so she can hit Noise but damage Scarlet?

[ripe python]

... I think it could just be helm+ hit

[sick bluff]

What is it?

Also i create a nuke calc for rei 2.0 already, can check there

[ripe python]

two ppl sent vids, I saw followup hits on them both, realized that both used helm+, and those "followups" are just helm+'s normal hits

I still need vid of rei/blanc/rh/centi/jackal (normal cs on centi and jackal) vs something like noise/noah/biscuit/sanis/rapu (1 sg + 4rl just barely 3rl team (no jackal))

[sick bluff]

[ripe python]

see if that outspeeds

[ripe python]

single buffer (blanc) reit is about as strong of a nuke as double buffer scar (blanc rh)

both using 2 buffers, reit nukes for approx 50% more than scar

[analog prawn]

ReiT burst gen is gonna be awful though right

Scar's good B3 burst gen is half of why she's so PvP viable

Well I guess frees up RH for a higher burst gen option

[sick bluff]

Define good.
2 rl = 9%. Rei will be 5%
3 rl = 13.5%, rei will be 7.5%

We have enough batteries to fit the bill

[analog prawn]

Hmmm maybe I'm overestimating scarlet

Last time I was on the calculator Scarlet instead of e.g. Rei OG or Cindy made a team 0.5 RL higher

[sick bluff]

Rei og and cindy are very low on burst gen true

[dire ridge]

And Cindy is kek in defense

[analog prawn]

I've got Cindy with Noise for defense

Don't look down on the fact Cindy can treat Noise like RH

HP buff goes brrrrr

[sick bluff]

Yep

Current meta requires both good nuke and huge dps follow up

[analog prawn]

Cindy, Noise, XMaiden, Centi and someone else

My Xmaiden usually tanks their AoE while my Cindy wipes them

No need for biscuit or Noah type defence

[ripe python]

reit in def is weak to noah, bay, and also sakura

but it's the strongest insta nuke we have

so most useful in atk, esp when double buff scar isn't enough

or when you wanna use a blanc in a diff team

reit/grave/centi/rh/jackal is same speed as scar/blanc/centi/rh/jackal, except it does like 50% more dmg

[manic raft]

Asuka feels like normal MG with Rei

She does still have a delay since she empties bullets, but it doesn't feel like Asuka dropped to 2fps anymore

Didn't check how Rapi felt

[sick bluff]

Juratus tested for me

[sullen bough]

So SR0 doll is okay since she is mid?

[stoic torrent]

what's verdict?

[waxen terrace]

Pins

[final sage]

at least this one isnt 10 10 10 XDD

ill see how much manuals Ill have next raid

they should have new units skills maxed for free for a duration until their banner disappears so you can test them at max power and then they go back to 1 1 1

( and not be pressed to waste mats for raid and then the unit gets creeped next one)

[tiny vessel]

How is her wind up buff for regular MG in practice?

[tender matrix]

Not worth mentioning

[stoic torrent]

okay, gonna run noir as offburst than rei

[errant epoch]

[umbral vault]

She need ammo line or nah?

[analog prawn]

Ele > ATK > Ammo as per usual

I don't think she can fire for a full burst without reloading unless she has some ammo

[dawn basalt]

you let asska burst first?

[crystal anvil]

221k on lv400 ?

[sick bluff]

full auto like

do nothing?

and -20 ~ 50% hit rate right?

[ripe python]

I can make mine work with a single tier 11 ammo line, no doll

just gotta manual reload around the end of reit's burst (which most are already doing I think), about 0 to 2 sec left of full burst, depending on crown and cube usage

but should be fine, I'm staying with it since it's expensive for me to fish for another line

[sick bluff]

too much pics

chatgpt, summarize it

[pastel musk]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-hawk-hawk-tu-tuah-gif-3696881901305765010

[ripe python]

hmm

my sbs and wille have basically same ele

[sick bluff]

10 burst Asuka

[ripe python]

sbs has like 25% more atk or something, good doll diff

my wille does a good bit less dmg still at 7/4/7

[sick bluff]

she will still deal good bit less dmg at 10/4/7 tho

[ripe python]

gatrix, how much does wille dmg get boosted from s1 10

[sick bluff]

38%

[ripe python]

from 7?

[sick bluff]

from 1 to 10

1/1/1 = base
10/10/10 = 1.48 base
10/1/1 = 1.38 base

[ripe python]

what about 7/1/1

[sick bluff]

if you isolate it like that, it should increase linearly

so 1.26 base

[ripe python]

[sick bluff]

most of Nikke skills are linear increasing from base, unless it's Sanis due to her checkpoint of ammo

and SBS S2 because it won't scale after lv 7

[ripe python]

so 7 to 10 is like a 9.5% increase?

[sick bluff]

how do you have that result

[ripe python]

1.38/1.26

[sick bluff]

normally when we want to see the gain from a point to a point, we use this formula

(New - Old)/Old x 100%

[ripe python]

... I still get 9.5%

[sick bluff]

no I'm tripping

fuck Google chrome

[ripe python]

did you use their ai

[sick bluff]

no, I use my keyboard and put eh

[ripe python]

hmm

[sick bluff]

anyway, 9.5%

[ripe python]

I mean, I do have the skill books for it, if I use up all my stock

ig I'll just wait until raid, and keep thinking on it until then

reit's buffing is fine at 4/4/4 right?

or is s1 lvl 7 also important for her

[sick bluff]

7/4/4 if you are comfortable

[ripe python]

how much gain?

[sick bluff]

12.67%/26%/40.2%

4/7/10

but before you look at the % scaling

remember ReiT dmg is not that impressive on her own

it's like you chase 14% more dmg from Scarlet

instead of 11% more dmg from Modernia

[ripe python]

oh reit s1 lvls barely buff asuka?

ig it's only the smol caster atk

[sick bluff]

ReiT S1 is for her own dmg

[ripe python]

yeah I'll keep her at 4 for now

if I get extremely lucky on ols I might go to 7

[sick bluff]

the only promising skill I want is her burst

7 like Scarlet too

so I can build 2 nuke teams

[ripe python]

yeah I do plan to 7 her burst at some point

maybe s1 for st dmg, but idk how impressive that is to begin with

[sick bluff]

therefore I suggest 7/4/7 from the very start

I don't have gloves either

might have to farm whatever it is from now on

for pvp

still, I want to finish C34 first

people use Helm now

[crystal anvil]

Rapipi crown Cindy sanis helm

Can work at ~1.2m

i think it's comparable

[sick bluff]

nah

[crystal anvil]

i'm sure these people passed because of their cracked cindy and sanis

not because of their maiden

[sick bluff]

ha ha no

[crystal anvil]

nice cp for 521

[sick bluff]

meh, even mcegan at 527 has lower than mine

[crystal anvil]

but you dont have his hands

[sick bluff]

I have

don't have his ele tho

my XMaiden has 30% atk and no ele for no reason

[tiny vessel]

I really don’t want to raise maiden’s gears just for Behemoth

[crystal anvil]

not worth it

no electric raids in sight for at least a year

[ripe python]

watching you guys suffer at behe, meanwhile by the time I finally get there we would have probably 2 meta replacements in that team that makes it easier

[crystal anvil]

dont think so bruh

electric is done

[sick bluff]

well your progress your choice

[crystal anvil]

did they molest you ?

[manic raft]

I think there are plenty of players who'd enjoy being molested by Behemoth

[ripe python]

[onyx shore]

mooey has ovld crown and psure his doll is sr 15

[tender ice]

nikke.gg be like

[tender matrix]

Well its kinda true tho

[analog prawn]

I was gonna use my stash of mileage to max core ReiT while she's available but I guess I'll leave her at MLB if she's not gonna even get used with Asuka for neutral damage

[iron imp]

Lb0 is enough

[half chasm]

if you keep her at lb0 shift up may say that the collab didn't make enough money and we'll get eva 3 again

[wise sun]

collab already is a massive flop compared to january

[hard glade]

RIP

[strong sparrow]

Yeah, I knew it was going to be shit, but this seems to be much worse

[half chasm]

the numbers look average for nikke

january was a peak patch with rapi red hood if that didn't do exceptionally well then eos is coming for us

we've had a massive flop before when they made 50% less compared to february

[empty sun]

Lmao

They have to add more gegz so no eos

[foggy wyvern]

i dont get it, even the developer straight up acknowledged how bad the first eva was, and to me the 2nd collab was them wanting to make it up to the fans but it seems like they missed the mark again... the only thing good is the helm skin

[onyx shore]

did you need some testing or numbers I'm 392

think eons 400

[waxen terrace]

I need attack stat of a few of your attackers

Highly invested
Medium invested
Low invested

Pick any 3 and send atk hp Def stats thanks

[onyx shore]

can give values of gears and recycling room if that helps

74 attack: 55500 hp 370 def
76 abnormal: 1900 atk 380 def
84 pilgrim: 2100 atk 420 def
72 elysion: 1800 atk 360 def
sbs gears: 354107 hp 16401 atk 2060 def
sbs doll: 301800 hp 9688 atk 2058 def
rei gears: 245908 hp 10934 atk 981 def
rei doll: 94000 hp 3029 atk 638 def

[hard glade]

I suppose the problem is while the few at ShiftUp are fan sof EVA, most of the players aren't and it's compounded by non-sexy non-jiggly non-cute characters and costumes

That and no story attachment

No future

Easy way to evaluate a collab character's sexiness:
Would you rather take a shower with one of them instead of Anis or (insert random Nikke waifu)?

Easy way to evaluate a collab character's cuteness:
Would you rather protect them instead of Anne or (insert random cute Nikke)?

[half chasm]

don't think they missed any mark this time

income is higher than a regular skip patch just below a pilgrim patch

[hard glade]

Huh

[half chasm]

how much do you think nikke makes on a regular ass month

[foggy wyvern]

Huh

[foggy wyvern]

yeah literally this lmao

like im not looking for a titty monster or naked crown gacha skin tier collab just something thats like, you know a collab with nikke-esque flair to it

[half chasm]

december 13m
january 17m
february 14m

this is what we're crying over?

it's all normal

why are we having opinions it looks pretty stable

[foggy wyvern]

its normal for a collab to make less than a pilgrim and higher than a skip patch...?

[half chasm]

you think nikke collabs are major hits or something?

they never were

[foggy wyvern]

i am aware they aren't

[fallen compass]

That, and to be honest

Evangelion is fairly old at this point.

[foggy wyvern]

you think they would try something different but if they found their stride for collabs so be it

[fallen compass]

Even with Kihara doing the remake series, Evangelion is more about the nostalgia of fans of the original at this point.

[foggy wyvern]

cursed to have "mid" collabs

[fallen compass]

Which naturally limits its growth potential with new audiences

[foggy wyvern]

they are 1/5 for collabs

[fallen compass]

I actually think that this collab is much better than the first Eva collab, but I highly doubt either collab event would convince Nikke players to check out the original anime series OR the films

[foggy wyvern]

if you think thats a good indicator then idk what to tell you

nier being the 1

[fallen compass]

At least this time, the Collab event only lasts for 3 weeks rather than the full month

[hard glade]

I guess we're nitpicking because a gacha game consistently making 10m+ is the envy of almost every other gacha games

[foggy wyvern]

also true

itcould always be worse

[crystal anvil]

Snowbreak, a gacha considered a failure at launch, is making more money than Nikke btw

[sick bluff]

Sensortower is proved to be bullshit. Watch shift up financial report every quarter. For example, last year nikke made total 100m i think, give or take. It means avaragely no month made more than 10m. And st reported random bs the whole 2024.

I dont know about other games but may be they follow the same trend too

https://shiftup.co.kr/eng/ir/ir.php

[crystal anvil]

100m profit ?

[tender ice]

Unit usability aside, Imo this eva collab is better than the last one

I don think they drop any ball here

Both new asuka and rei is better design now

The story is less cringe

And the mini game actually fucking fun

And before anyone yells that new rei and asuka does not have nikke proportion

Reminder

That its most likely a request from license holder

Yes they can do that shit

They just say " don over sexualize them, and you get the characters for collab" and there is nothing SU can do

[sick bluff]

doubt

I can ask my old colleague in Garena tho

[frosty lintel]

at which part of the statement they take the cut? before net profit or after?

and at which part tencent take the cut based on this?

[crystal anvil]

in layman's term, you only care about the net profit and profit margin

[tender ice]

Merchandise

Usually stuff that they get money without doing much

Which is most likely merchandise

[dire ridge]

Yeah guys SU made 98m as net profit

That's it

0 for nikke, 20m for SB and 78m for the new game

But nikke will continue paying the bills and bringing the lunch and dinner

Also, nice Rei thread, same treatment as the previous Rei

[crude sandal]

Glasses's barrier can be penetrated by Anti-AT

[half chasm]

oh that's funny sensor tower just makes that shit up? these financial statements look reliable at least

[sick bluff]

SU did IPO so they must release those statement every period

it's written in Korea's rule

[crude sandal]

public companies in any country are typically required to release financial statements at least once every quarter

[half chasm]

not so bad

actually an increase in q4

eva 1 was in q3 2024 i believe

that's when they made that statement

q4 labor cost slashed in half and variable cost increased by 50x

those ai assisted tools must cost a lot

[crystal anvil]

thing is, having no growth for your very successful game in year 2 and 3 is not good

[dire ridge]

It's a gacha

Gacha are fast food games

And imagine new people after 3 years lol, they can't do shit, no competitive, they can't read the story

[dire ridge]

Yeah and prolly only top 50 are swiping those new book packs

3% will arrive to 10b this year

Rn top1 did 26b? I forgot top 1 last raid

[sick bluff]

I will give you that, for now

since AI is not a reliable source but I'm too lazy to dig up

not my field

me knows about finance too but not much into accounting

all I learn is how to claim my tax back