#[Asuka: WILLE] New Unit Megathread

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lofty rivet
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Well like it matters xd

autumn shard
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No, it actually REALLY does

lofty rivet
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Ok ok

autumn shard
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Because Asuka OG and Rei Ayanami both buff all allied units that are Fire Element

lofty rivet
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In hoping they actually work well as a duo, scarlet had been carrying wind element alone for too long

autumn shard
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So if you can run a full Fire Team, even B1 and B2 units can hit like a truck

lofty rivet
autumn shard
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No, Mari works entirely differently. You wouldn't really run on her Fire team anyway

lofty rivet
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I mean, as long as we get a second real wind dps is ok

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What's the second best right now? Beach sakuya?

autumn shard
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Mari's unique gimmick is that she has wave clear on her B2 Burst, and she has Pierce 50% of the time.

sweet trellis
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when pierce is needed, Mari is a lot better than many b2

lofty rivet
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Idk I'll get her if I can

lean smelt
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scope lock wind-weak, used priv due to ammo issues.... seems alright?

autumn shard
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It's not that Mari is bad, per se. It's just that Crown is basically the King Kong of the B2 slot, and everyone else is several tiers below her

lean smelt
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both without their best buffers

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I ain't got the resources eula_bruh

autumn shard
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So whenever a new B2 unit comes out, the response is usually something like "The new unit is good, but she's no Crown"

lofty rivet
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I wish the reruned crown 🄲

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So I'll do

twin valve
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not priv

autumn shard
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If you have to pick and you're on the fence, get Rei A and Asuka OG

twin valve
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why priv

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priv is doing nothing

rocky bough
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its been 25 minutes is she mid

autumn shard
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Because those units enable the current Fire Team

sweet trellis
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this is an Asuka shill place

twin valve
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there should be no ammo issues

lean smelt
twin valve
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wdym

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asuka has 60% self reload speed

lofty rivet
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So between rei and Mari who's better to pick?

twin valve
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with crown it becomes like 110

autumn shard
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by comparison, Asuka Wille and Rei Tentative are definitely going to be good, but they don't enable any new team comps on their own. They're just a top-tier set of Wind DPS units

autumn shard
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Mari is nice to have, but not essential.

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Rei OG and Asuka OG buff all Fire units on their team

lean smelt
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with crown wille reloading during burst has full windup reset

autumn shard
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Which will actually have a funny effect on the next Iron solo raid, because you'll still be able to run a Rapi SSR + Asuka OG + Rei A team to buff Rapi's Iron damage.

lean smelt
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remember no cube in scope lock

terse vortex
runic leaf
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Scope lock for test unit wahahaha

lean smelt
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the reload speed is just for the debuff period reload I'm pretty sure

twin valve
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what

autumn shard
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The big issue is that Wind is the least supported element right now. Asuka Wille and Rei are both going to be valuable simply because we don't have many good Wind Attackers

twin valve
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wdym 3s cant do anything

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ohhh

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there is no rei yet

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yeah makes sense

lean smelt
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well at the start of that 3 sec she's reloading, then shoots super slowly until 3 sec over

twin valve
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just use alice still

violet atlas
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Unless rei can remove wind up completely and not off set the debuff, i think ass = helm

kind stratus
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Who's gonna feed these anorexic gals some burst gen

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Running rapipi is lol since 3mgs

autumn shard
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Helm?

lean smelt
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tbh still not bad

autumn shard
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Assuming you run Crown + SSR Rap + Asuka Wille + Rei Tentative + Helm

toxic ingot
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Quite good considering no max ammo rolls

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Base ammo MG is sad life

lean smelt
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I don't think the debuff is that big of a deal

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she's going into off-burst and going into next b3 anyway

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main loss is the stacking from reit imo

wicked plume
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do i pull old asuka or new asuka first?

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i...dont know its upto luck but i can for sure get one

kind stratus
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Wait we are getting new peeps?

lean smelt
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40 pulls no other ssr, avg

toxic ingot
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Unless you're intent on sweating in raids, old Asuka is currently higher priority since there's no replacement for her really in AI Indivilia

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meanwhile Kraken can be done with SBS fine

wicked plume
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cool i have everyone besides collab characs like the eva characters so this event will be a big gem drain

toxic ingot
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But it'll take until Rei comes out next week to see new Asuka's full potential

autumn shard
wicked plume
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ok first 10x and got old asuka

toxic ingot
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Very nice kek

wicked plume
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so now its either i pull new asuka or wait for rei

sweet trellis
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30x and nothing till now

toxic ingot
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New Rei is pointless if you don't have new Asuka

autumn shard
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If you're trying to get a good score in the next SR, get Asuka Wille and ReiT. Otherwise, Asuka OG and Rei A are probably better for long term value

toxic ingot
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Like 70% of new Rei's kit is exclusive to new Asuka KEKL

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Old Rei is a healthy buffer, but she's not technically critical

autumn shard
toxic ingot
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Skipping her isn't a great idea, but you won't be bricked, either

autumn shard
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But not essential, but very useful for enabling full Fire Teams

lean smelt
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made sure they got equal bursts BlancStare

toxic ingot
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New Rei is more important for new Asuka than old Rei is for old Asuka

lean smelt
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both ammo hungry units that hit core well, wille wins despite missing reit

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full neutral auto

autumn shard
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By comparison, it LOOKS like Asuka Wille and ReiT are going to be extremely strong for Wind content, but they won't enable a new team comp per se

lean smelt
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og still got pierce

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but if no pierce....

autumn shard
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They'll just be new Wind Attackers (which is admittedly the weakest Element right now, so they're useful by merit of rarity, but may not age well)

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If you're on the fence, wait until next week when ReiT comes out and we can do proper testing.

lean smelt
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wille really does need some ammo tho

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at least 1 ammo roll if you reload her manually before her burst

wicked plume
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basically my choice is new asuka or old rei

dont think i care much about if i get new rei too much

lean smelt
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maybe more to be safe

toxic ingot
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MG attackers are pretty much always 10/12 units minimum sadsimp

lean smelt
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wille can prob get away with 1 less ammo line

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how much is needed to only reload during her ammo dump?

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wait that's way too much ammo

wicked plume
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nvm im a dirty gambler got new asuka in 40 spins
i have 27k gems now

hows it looking for me?

lean smelt
autumn shard
wicked plume
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my decision is now old rei vs new rei

who is more important

lean smelt
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actually she might want just as many ammo lines as other dps unless you manual reload

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new rei

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probably

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old rei isn't that important with rapipi around these days

wicked plume
lean smelt
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asuka can work as a decent substitute buffer

wicked plume
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ah i see

violet atlas
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150 pulls without asshitka

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time to buy her

lean smelt
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time to auto the campaign while I eat dinner

kind stratus
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I never show off my pulls in cord because that's getting jinxed 101

toxic ingot
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lol nope

sweet trellis
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not for you cuz you've been naughty

toxic ingot
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I'm autoing campaign on three accounts atm KEKL

kind stratus
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she has a cute hat

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I only have one extra ammo roll deadge
3 ele though

bright mural
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Is she worth pulling?

toxic ingot
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If you care about raids, yes

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Otherwise, wait a week and change kek

undone pebble
twin valve
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old asuka > new asuka rei together > old Rei > Mari > new asuka solo > new rei solo

to whoever asks

undone pebble
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not real

twin valve
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i dont mean in strength i meant pull prio

haughty jackal
fast pebble
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old asuka basically can function alone

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while new asuka need rei

twin valve
craggy gyro
twin valve
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But they're a duo

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And also Asuka buffs red rapi

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And also she's good in campaign

craggy gyro
twin valve
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So pull prio wise one copy of Asuka1 much better and easier to get than one each of Rei2 Asuka2

dry pine
unborn badge
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Lol dont click this wahahaha

toxic ingot
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Seamaids released so that SBS would still have a place heh

tender oak
fast pebble
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which asuka?

tender oak
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New Asuka

twin valve
tender oak
fast pebble
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yes

toxic ingot
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Five banners

tender oak
autumn shard
autumn shard
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We're getting reruns along with the Asuka Wille and ReiT banners

tender oak
fast pebble
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but damn new asuka has a sick burst animation tho

tender oak
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Cause I never want/need to use her over my alice

autumn shard
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Honestly, if you have the resources, it's not a terrible choice

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Asuka has shown up consistently even in non-Fire content

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And she doubles as a support for other Fire units.

fast pebble
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unlike alice

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3 shot per sec or bust

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old asuka has lower damage ceilling but higher damage floor iirc than alice

toxic ingot
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Much higher damage floor

tender oak
fast pebble
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FFS

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where is my RH

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she never show ups

tender oak
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Core 6 Rh

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So Asuka >> SBS is entirely satire right

fast pebble
autumn shard
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That being said, SBS is a Pilgrim who will likely never get a rerun, while Asuka Wille + ReiT are a lot easier to get for the duration of this event (and then they'll also never see a rerun)

toxic ingot
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With no core, SBS wins easily

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With core, not so sure

trim kelp
autumn shard
fast pebble
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oof indeed

trim kelp
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airlgiht. thankfully i have 800 certificate

autumn shard
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At a minimum, even without ReiT yet, Asuka Wille seems COMPETITIVE with SBS

trim kelp
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i didint get any useful ssr in those 800 pulls

fast pebble
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i was going to just not buy SBS, but luckily a friend told me to just get her

trim kelp
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got her

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in paper does she need more cores

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or fine in 0

fast pebble
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i mean most attacker is fine at 0 iirc

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its only the defender that might need dupes

toxic ingot
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Either all units need more cores or no units do kek

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Not like Hoyo-like systems where units mechanically change based on dupe count

toxic ingot
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It's usually Attackers that want them most for more DPS thonk

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We barely even use Defenders

crude sable
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"B-b-but defender like Cinderella benefits from both HP and Atk increase therefore she benefit more from dupes"

trim kelp
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hmm valid reason

toxic ingot
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What ATK? kek

trim kelp
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she doesnt benefit from atk?

toxic ingot
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Defenders have 0.5x the ATK of Attackers

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so she's getting half returns

blazing raptor
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I only got Mari from the last eva event who’s the best unit I can pull rn?

crude sable
trim kelp
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dang

toxic ingot
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Most of her damage comes from HP, but HP scaling is worse than 2B, so even then dupes are meh

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Obviously if sweating at top ranks you want dupes

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but otherwise waste of resources

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imo for F2P the only units worth dupes are meta collab units

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since they likely won't come back

crude sable
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Its because more than half of the HP buff active in the team is from rouge

toxic ingot
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Rouge gives way more HP than LB0 to C7 gives

blazing raptor
# toxic ingot Fire Asuka

Just pulled and got her on a 10 pull 😭do I go for Wind Asuka now? Or wait for Rei and her rerun

toxic ingot
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New Rei is pointless if you don't have Wind Asuka

distant anchor
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are there any other use of new asuka besides wind raids

toxic ingot
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so go for Wind Asuka or Fire Rei (I'd say Wind Asuka more worthwhile)

toxic ingot
distant anchor
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better than sbs?

toxic ingot
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No way of knowing for sure until Rei is out

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but for those with crap Alice like me, potentially

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Or use both deluthonk

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She just needs to beat S Sakura

distant anchor
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i got shafted insanely hard so im trying to cope ScarletCopium

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down 26k gems and 0 fucking gold

toxic ingot
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Ouch

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But yeah, main use is raids

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I don't think they'll have PvP or campaign use

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Garbage burst gen

trim kelp
toxic ingot
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Although if you have a lot of gems/vouchers and want to build mileage for the Pilgrim banners, then seasonals/collabs are the way to go imo

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Winter units for NY Pilgrim, first quarter collab for half-anni Pilgrim, summer and/or second quarter collab for anni Pilgrim

peak star
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4/4/4 Asuka(89 ele, no other stats) vs Sbs (92 ele, 11.8 attack). This is on full auto mobile since I’m not home yet but looks promising

fast pebble
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pretty decent ngl

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and its on full auto mobile

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meaning lags and asuka shooting at non core is possible

crude sable
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I prob gonna do calc soon ig
Stuck at work for hours anyways

lean smelt
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also ammo issues

fast pebble
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yeah 89 ele

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no other stat

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so i assume no ammo substat too

tulip ice
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No max ammo substats?

fast pebble
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need to ask panda

iron brook
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Crown + Resilience for reload speed

Rei for Windup

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Ammo becomes irrelevant

vapid wagon
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i have Grave but not Crown, should i get Mari or Old Rei?

sweet trellis
iron brook
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It's when not running with Crown max ammo becomes relevant I think

sweet trellis
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130 pulls no SSR 1 Asuka

grim lagoon
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are there any recent news if she's better than Asuka?

craggy gyro
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BlancStare how is she as solo dps?

mossy badger
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is she stronger than old asuka

crude sable
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For Asuka vs SBS on kraken

grim lagoon
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who's Better tho the old asuka or this wind one?

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just curious

sharp kestrel
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different element, can't really compare them nowadays

grim lagoon
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Really need you and your assessment for WasukašŸ™šŸ’—

grim lagoon
iron brook
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I hope she likes crit rate because that's what I'm rolling lol

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Crit should be better than it is for RL and SR since no charge damage in the same bracket right

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Hit rate probably useless since so little of her damage is normal attacks

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Core damage buffs e.g. from Naga similarly garbage for her

crude sable
crude sable
dry pine
crude sable
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Of course

dry pine
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Had to be sure, I’m surprised it’s only 3.2b. That’s not even a kill, unless I’m misunderstanding?

crude sable
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Wdym only 3.2b

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Sbs do around 3b

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Lol

dry pine
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I thought it was team total, nvm

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Your reaction means that was new Asuka’s dmg only lol

crude sable
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Oh yeah
Personal damage only

dry pine
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I didn’t see the 2nd image, oops

crude sable
runic leaf
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So she better than sbs?

modest ginkgo
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I mean sbs has distributed dmg for mobs

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Which doesn't do very much on kraken

runic leaf
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Who care about mob these day

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Only focus on boss

modest ginkgo
runic leaf
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Can pause scum

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?

modest ginkgo
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I have skill issue

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Also I hate doing that

crude sable
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Unless you're dealing with that god damn volleyball

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AsukaW is both more mobs damage and more focused damage which is good

dry pine
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Only problem is for that high dmg, AsukaW is glued to ReiT

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What’s it like if she goes without ReiT?

tender oak
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Isn't SBS pretty much glued to Alice though

dry pine
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Yeah, and we know what BS Scarlet is like without Alice. Just wondering if she still beats BS Scarlet without their partners

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Because, with the upcoming Solo Raid, I think we won’t have ReiT available?

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I guess it doesn’t matter

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They don’t affect each other

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And BS Scarlet is now hugging Pirate Maids

iron brook
tender oak
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for MG

tender oak
crude sable
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My homemade sheet

iron brook
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But also I'm not convinced she even wants ammo

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Can't you just load her up with reload speed buffs

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Plus Rei's 100% windup speed?

tender oak
# crude sable

Damn so at equal investment the ceiling of Asuka just straight up higher than SBS?

crude sable
iron brook
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Plus after burst she forcibly reloads anyway, so infinite ammo isn't viable

crude sable
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But that's tying her down to crown

iron brook
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Or Privaty Kek

crude sable
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You wouldnt want that for long term

crude sable
iron brook
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A good soloraid team could be:

RapiRH / Crown / B3 MG / Asuka / Rei

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With B3 MG being XLud for water, or love RapiRH there for iron or fire

dry pine
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Like Guillotine? poggies

iron brook
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Electric only one with issues since Guillo is its best option lol

dry pine
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Guillotine needs a hero that makes berserkers invincible to incoming damage or the self-harm damage sadge

crude sable
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Without Rei, Asuka gonna force a reload after her own burst? @dry pine

iron brook
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Even with rei Asuka forces reload doesn't she

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Rei just makes it less slow

dry pine
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ā€œIf the unit would harm itself, reduce its health to 1 and make it invincible as long as this character (the new Nikke) is alive.ā€

crude sable
iron brook
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If we stack 100% damage taken down, do we become immortal?

dry pine
crude sable
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Same kekw

iron brook
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I tried running Kraken just now with her

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With crown

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And resilience

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And the windup speed was notable

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Rei is super necessary

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Also if you go the max ammo route not only are you missing out on third line being crit rate/DMG, but you're forcing yourself to micromanage her and reload before every burst

lost vapor
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So we are cooked then?

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Asuka and Rei, LMB.

iron brook
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Core 7 or 🧱 , obviously

lost vapor
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Why SU have to do this...

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Duo after Duo

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and for wind as well

crude sable
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@dry pine

dry pine
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Insane

crude sable
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Without the MG buff it wasnt terrible because the dead period fall into a burst regen phase so you dont actually lose much damage there

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as long as you have reload speed buff

lost vapor
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Hmm, does Asuka and Rei sync together or can be used seperately?

crude sable
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Imo for now, You can take Rei off if you have crown with asuka

lost vapor
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...Crown is a cuck King at this point.

dry pine
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So AsukaW on Doro team?

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Or is Privaty murder for AsukaW?

lost vapor
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I mean well, King is known to cuck around.

crude sable
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But Rei damage looks good too tbh

tepid reef
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so other than kraken ai asukaw+reit has no use?
(I have previous trio)

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I'm confused

iron brook
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But Doro/B2 with burst gen/AsuakW/ReiT/Priv is probably viable

crude sable
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Theres no reason not to use Rei

iron brook
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Not really no

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The only question with Rei is whether you have her burst or not

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With Priv, Rei has to burst

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With Crown, can have e.g. XLud or RHRapi be the other B3 instead

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Either way I think abandoning max ammo is the way to go

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Scam OL line

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Oh wait

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Parts damage cube exists now

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Max Ammo might let you take that instead of resilience

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Dunno if that makes it more worthwhile

tepid reef
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so is she worth pulling?

iron brook
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Absolutely

tepid reef
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what makes it worth?
I didn't got a single worthy run of previous ones

iron brook
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Asuka & Rei are our first B3 duo

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Like all duos we expect them to be a soloraid mainstay

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Compared to single units who are quickly powercreeped / often only relevant for their own element

tepid reef
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its just I got burnt on previous eva units

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way too niche

iron brook
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I mean wait for Rei so we can gameplay test and be certain

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But they're looking very strong

tepid reef
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people were saying same about asuka last time

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I guess I'll wait then

lost vapor
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Assuming I only have enough gems to get one new NIKKE, Rei or Asuka?

fast pebble
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seems to be asuka atm

undone pebble
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skill lvl on asuka?

crude sable
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Eh
Should be a bit higher

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But im too lazy to insert core damage boost from doll into it

grim lagoon
fast pebble
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bruh just 7/7/7 for now

sweet laurel
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How's Asuka as flex dps? Ala mod

crude sable
sweet laurel
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I thought her s1 could carry kekw

iron brook
# fast pebble seems to be asuka atm

I'd actually argue Rei I think?

Asuka without Rei will be a mid wind DPS similar to Summer Sakura

Rei without Asuka will be a low-mid wind DPS who gives a rare MG buff that might help other units?? And more importantly could be slot into position 5 as a support?

covert acorn
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they will be good. She does around the same as my SBS. Less damage, but close

crude sable
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Without rei is still way better than sakura

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Lol

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Both

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I mean rei damage looks like 90% of Alice on neutral
So u prob want to invest too

covert acorn
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7/7/7 is what i have her at currently

crude sable
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Malice

sweet laurel
covert acorn
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thing is, she really needs ammo lines from what i can tell, i have 120% ammo and i dont think its enough...

sweet laurel
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S1 and burst are most impt imo

covert acorn
crude sable
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Crown + rei kinda fix ammo issue but being a slave to crown is not good long term worrybedge

covert acorn
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and yeah thats the other thing... she felt better being ran with crown than anyone else

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grave could work? im not to sure

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let me try bastion + grave

crude sable
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Just get 3 ammo lines minimum kekw

sweet laurel
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My Asuka2 with 0 OL, 4/1/4 with 0 cube (i forgot to equip),is dealing 20% of my SBS dps

covert acorn
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ill be out of crack rocks for rei at that point xiaobao_cry

crude sable
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Rei dps is 2/3 of asuka and need less lines to work

iron brook
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Asuka you can probably get away with 10/7/10 for now tbh

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Her second skill doesn't scale that much

sweet laurel
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MG with base ammo feels so bad

covert acorn
crude sable
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I still havent finished leveling the duo maids

iron brook
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Don't forget she also has ATK dmg from burst, and probably runs with Helm and Crown too

violet atlas
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salvage your noir and blanc

iron brook
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Rei slot 5 can skimp on S1&Burst, but that's for soloraids that aren't wind-weak

crude sable
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SR team building in 2025 honklerClown

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Im glad im casual now

iron brook
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If Rei's S2 is 100% heating up at S1 it's low priority

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But I'm guessing it won't be

covert acorn
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god yeah even with grave + bastion + 120% max ammo, this feels bad, i think she needs closer to 1k ammo

iron brook
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I think abandon max ammo and commit to reload speed

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It'll feel better when Rei removes her windup

covert acorn
crude sable
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+3 ammo hyperlmfao

covert acorn
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yeah its pointless

verbal oar
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Noir is here to save the day

thick arrow
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damn, my problem is where to get rocks so that my Asuka can perform near/above SBS sadge

iron brook
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Yeah max ammo is a lost cause here, Rei removing windup really makes it feel like reload speed is the way to go

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SU clearly intends for her to run out of ammo mid burst lol

lost vapor
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Asuka and Rei worth mileage tickets?

thick arrow
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I'm scared of what they cook for half anni and anni if the first collab this year already this strong

iron brook
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Slimegirl Siren will be one of them

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New fetish/niche insofar untapped

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But if I had no gems left I'd still use mileage to get a copy of Asuka & Rei

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Gems first obviously

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2% banner after all

covert acorn
lost vapor
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70 pulls, no SSR.

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90 pulls, one SSR Asuka.

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I will ticket Rei then...

covert acorn
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wait wtf LOL if u reload right before the 9 second burst where she is about to reload and drop her ammo, idk if that was a 1 time bug or something, but that was weird af

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it completely skips the long ass wind time

lost vapor
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Gacha is rigged

runic leaf
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If they gonna power creep every 2 months

#

Better play as caual i can't take this shit serious

covert acorn
#

honestly, asuka alone, i dont think she powercreeps sbs

#

That is true, it is very sus

lost vapor
#

Ain't SU say they wouldn't make collab units too strong?

#

a few months ago

covert acorn
#

this is my biggest issue

lost vapor
#

as a meta collab units make players unhappy

covert acorn
#

the skill investment is getting annoying, i dont have enough skill books for this and by the time i do, another meta unit is out

runic leaf
#

You have 5 unit require 10-10-10 within 2 month

#

That's how shit it is

lost vapor
#

They can fix this by just x2 skills

#

for a week

#

SU admitted negative sides of developing NIKKE, but they have trouble to enable solutions.

iron brook
lost vapor
#

Know is one thing, solve is another thing.

iron brook
#

Don't need the mats if you don't get the meta units

fast pebble
lost vapor
#

So what is new comp for AI Kraken... again.

#

Include Rei btw.

iron brook
#

RapiRH/Crown/Asuka/Rei/Helm (Treasure)

#

Alternatively:

RapiRH/B2 with burst gen e.g. Mari/SBS/Asuka/Rei

lost vapor
#

TREASON!!

#

My waifu Mana

violet atlas
lost vapor
#

Hmm, does Wille stronger than standard Asuka?

lost vapor
iron brook
crude sable
lost vapor
crude sable
#

Wdym?

lost vapor
#

I mean when Tentative come out, unless she deal more dmg than SBS, or else SBS stay, right?

crude sable
#

seems like SBS without Alice is still more than Rei slightly @lost vapor

#

At full build

lost vapor
#

Dmg

crude sable
#

So you might as well skip building her

lost vapor
#

I mean damn

#

nah, I'm a competitive players

#

so I will build her for raids

#

but not for AI Kraken.

crude sable
#

Iirc Aliceless SBS is ~ 66%?

toxic ingot
#

Mari has like 99% usage in solo raid

#

Rei was the only more questionable one

toxic ingot
tepid reef
#

I compare it to unit like alice or sbs, asuka has miniscule amount of usage

toxic ingot
#

???

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Asuka is mandatory for Indivilia

tepid reef
#

how often do you run inivilia ai??

toxic ingot
#

And used more than SBS pre-Ch 33 in hard mode afaik

toxic ingot
#

Need chest pieces

#

And fair, Asuka has like 50% usage in solo raid so doesn't compare to hyper meta like SBS, but niche is still inaccurate

shadow igloo
toxic ingot
#

Niche is units like Laplace kek

tepid reef
#

not a single person ever seeing my box even questioned why my asuka has same amount of CP as random non-meta unit

shadow igloo
#

Good for you, moving on

#

So, is anybody testing?

toxic ingot
#

I will when I get home

tepid reef
#

I was recommended bunny units more often then asuka in sr\ur

toxic ingot
#

Didn't snow enough to cancel work

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And I focused campaign before work

shadow igloo
#

I can't test, where my books

toxic ingot
shadow igloo
toxic ingot
shadow igloo
#

Bunnies are dead lol

violet atlas
#

Rapipi is niche

tepid reef
violet atlas
#

come to think of it, it's been a while since the last time I crawl Noah

#

time to mine more noah emote

toxic ingot
#

By solo raid usage, bunnies are more useful than Asuka

#

That much is accurate

violet atlas
#

isn't that you

tepid reef
#

same with campaign, I also don't get this

toxic ingot
#

Ah, g2g, break over

tepid reef
#

I just keep juggling whatever rapipi,cindy, sbs alice smth like this

violet atlas
#

no I'm anyone

tepid reef
#

and asuka being put in what kind of campaign team then?

shadow igloo
violet atlas
#

Lappy with part cube cthjail

tepid reef
#

asuka suprcedes what? modernia?

shadow igloo
#

Asuka cleaning hordes of mobs

violet atlas
#

Asuka with her thick pierce radius

#

something Nihilister could have been

shadow igloo
#

Modernia, 2023 unit

tepid reef
#

so are you trying to tell me that asuka is better than modernia

#

with cindy rapipi sbs it was simple to understand

#

with asuka I can't understand

shadow igloo
violet atlas
tepid reef
#

and the sample team is?

#

wait is this b1 rh team

shadow igloo
#

RapiH B3 is also good cleaning big raptures like farters

tepid reef
#

so it still ends up as rapipi instead of asuka and red hood is b3?

#

wat

crude sable
shadow igloo
#

If you use red hood b3 you lose her B1 so idk man

#

She has the best B1 so far

crude sable
#

Also
3% difference in damage taken average worrybedge

shadow igloo
#

in some scenarios like defense position or catch the flag rhb3 is really good cuz pierce

#

But even there most people use her as B1 and 2 element nikkes

#

Element is everything on this game

dry pine
#

Before y'all get excited replacing Modernia and savagely benching her

There's an EX stage with 6 Glasses at the same time KEKS

violet atlas
#

If everyone is good, who will i use against water weak volleyball x3

sharp kestrel
#

siren

violet atlas
#

Nope

shadow igloo
#

Nobody is benching modernia lol

violet atlas
#

Pha

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Nt

#

Om

cosmic quartz
violet atlas
#

Or qeq

crude sable
#

Phantom kekU

violet atlas
#

Gotta rely on her to deal with 803f

thick arrow
#

or just blanc

violet atlas
#

That script is terrible

honest vigil
shadow igloo
#

anyway back to raids because nobody cares campaign

#

Well nanaliko cares

sharp kestrel
#

time to sleep

shadow igloo
#

But nobody here is him so...

crude sable
thick arrow
#

speedrunning hard mode

sharp kestrel
#

90 dust/hour yum yum

shadow igloo
#

Smh me stuck in the fucking MC boss

crude sable
dry pine
#

How low did you get the boss?

shadow igloo
thick arrow
#

is it better to use thelm or RH b1 for most of hard mode?

shadow igloo
#

Double sniper

crude sable
shadow igloo
#

He used the double sniper pierce the whole campaign

crude sable
sharp kestrel
#

all of today's clears use rapi b1 rh b3

crude sable
#

Bet

#

I havent got time to play yet maygidead

sharp kestrel
#

i use rh b3 sbs b3, very comfy

#

no alice

shadow igloo
#

Well tbh nothing can surpass double sniper pierce in campaign

tepid reef
#

didn't someone just said why would you use rh b3

thick arrow
#

I'm so scared dumping hundreds of rocks if AsukaW wasn't used on most game mode

shadow igloo
#

Especially if you know what are you doing

crude sable
#

Rapi crown rh alice naga

#

Yea

thick arrow
#

iron weak stages too iirc

shadow igloo
#

That was used for lowest clear

tepid reef
#

yeahhhhh

shadow igloo
#

But only nanaliko

tepid reef
#

hahahaah

shadow igloo
#

Raon

crude sable
#

Hai

tepid reef
#

I don't like rh b1 not because of number but because it requires manually controlling stuff (as in bursting, etc.)

shadow igloo
#

So, asukawille+Rei>SBS Alice against kraken?

crude sable
#

At same investment yes

tepid reef
#

you can't just autopiloty spam shots on RH and let it autoburst

crude sable
#

Asuka do 10% more than SBS

sharp kestrel
#

yea not gonna happen

crude sable
#

And Rei do like 4-500m more than Alice

sharp kestrel
#

it takes like 400 rocks combined for alice+sbs

dry pine
#

When I test Asuka, I'll see how she feels for campaigning since a few people are terrified of her being unused there after investment

#

But for raids she's definitely going to be a goddess deadge

crude sable
#

Asuka rei > asuka sbs

iron brook
#

She needs Rei for campaign

#

10000000%

#

Mobs keep disappearing which makes her reload

#

Which causes windup

#

You'd need to manual her so fucking much without Rei

#

Still default MG windup

#

Everytime mobs take half a second to spawn

#

Yes

tepid reef
#

reit out next week?

sharp kestrel
#

sbs is still better for balls no?

crude sable
sharp kestrel
#

rn for campaign all i care is how good the unit is at dealing with balls

iron brook
#

Maybe with Treasure Helm is can work

crude sable
#

maygidead true ig

#

But its not a huge issue

#

You're fine if you're out of target to hits kekw
Most of the time you die because of the opposite

iron brook
#

I dunno it felt really bad having her constantly windup

dry pine
#

pepehmmm This is pretty good for an Asuka that was in T9Ms and 1/1/1

iron brook
#

I was testing on normal mode tho

#

So mobs died immediately

#

Which might've been why it felt like there was nothing for her to do by the time she was at full speed

dry pine
#

I felt the empty ammo mechanic, that's a little annoying

crude sable
#

Blue cp problem kekw

fast pebble
#

are you actually being serious?

crude sable
#

So you dont actually lose much dps

iron brook
#

Yeah I've possibly tested her on too blue of a CP lol

fast pebble
iron brook
#

No quick clear for story yet so still slogging my way through new normal stages

#

-.-

fast pebble
#

thats an issue pretty much on every RL. SR and MG

iron brook
#

It's much less relevant for RL and SR, where their damage assumes one charge time per shot anyway.

MG assumes one windup per max ammo, so the extra windups are much more relevant there

#

I do agree now though it won't be notable at deficit

tepid reef
#

when ReiT will be available to recruit?

iron brook
#

One week

#

As per usual

dry pine
iron brook
#

Is there an amount of max ammo where she can fired continuously for ~25 seconds? Thus only reloading on the forced reload? That would be the notable benefit from max ammo if so but it feels too far off / greedy even with bastion

crude sable
#

Its alot yea

sweet trellis
#

do she needs ammo line ?

dry pine
#

No

#

ReiT fixes it too

dry pine
#

Basically a reload speed team with ReiT on it doesn't feel the need for ammo lines

iron brook
#

But if you go for max ammo more flexibility with team mates (and cubes, if you want new part damage cube)

crude sable
dry pine
#

But what do we get instead if so... crit rate?

iron brook
#

I think ignore max ammo will be best tho yeah

iron brook
#

It's a little better since she's MG so no charge damage in the same bracket

#

Like SR and RL have

#

Hit rate is useless

#

Her normal attacks are dog shit especially in burst

#

Pretty sure the additional damage from her skills and burst can't hit core so don't bother with hit rate / run her with JKs

crude sable
#

Should just not swap to her but i needed for demonstration

crude sable
dry pine
#

Team reload buffing Nikkes:

Maid Pirates
Privaty
Crown

No others atm?

iron brook
#

Has anyone tested how maids play with her?

#

Do they remove both her buffs & debuffs?

Remove nothing?

crude sable
#

remove nothing hmmz

dry pine
#

Ah there's Admi, but nobody uses her anymore - too weak B2

crude sable
#

XMAS Rupee wahahaha

iron brook
#

If you want a wild team comp

#

Doro/Diesel Treasure/Asuka/Rei/Privaty

#

Well, no pierce for her to buff

#

Or burst gen

#

Honestly I'm realising just how valuable Mari is

#

Her & Grave are our only meta B2 with good burst gen

#

And both buff pierce

#

The type of dps which doesn't need help generating burst

sweet trellis
#

45 rocks for this

#

life's rough man

dry pine
#

Almost 50% ele dmg, 20% atk, and 90% ammo

#

I like it, could stop if you want middling invest in her imo TOMstare

shadow igloo
#

Yeah 15 days of grinding for that feels bad

#

But hey, it's something

sweet trellis
#

130 pulls for her no ssr

#

she really hates me

sharp kestrel
#

so… she doesn’t need ammo?

dry pine
#

Then when she bursts, and her burst ends, she instantly loses all of her ammo and has to reload with a significant penalty to MG windup (3 seconds of lousiness)

#

Only ReiT can fix the MG windup penalty

#

So if you want to fix the 300 ammo and avoid AsukaW running out of ammo in middle of her burst, reloading, and then having the burst end and losing all of her just reloaded ammo KEKL

#

You either get her more ammo or a team with reload speed buffs

#

So you're going to either tie her with Crown/Privaty/Pirates, or getting her a lot of ammo

fast pebble
#

i guess the resillence cube is better for her

lean smelt
#

even if reit is there to make mid-burst reload have minimal windup, you still got the reload itself

#

well reload speed is good if you don't have the ammo to not reload her during burst

dry pine
#

That forced 3 second stun is supposed to be eliminated by ReiT. but for the upcoming Solo Raid she won't even be recruitable so I guess if you're planning around that, she's out of the equation (ignore that, had wrong dates)

lean smelt
#

I don't think asuka stun is a big deal tbh, it happens at the very end of her burst, going into burst gen time

#

well there is a point where if she has enough ammo, she has optimal reloads

#

as in, only reloads when forced

#

idk how many shots that is for a typical comp

#

I also dunno how to calc in bastion

#

ig a problem with being a bit shy of that magic threshold

#

is that... when auto she'll always reload during her burst

#

since the end of her burst is when she reloads, if you're a bit shy of making it, she's always reloading during her burst, gotta manual reload her every other burst to reset it

thick arrow
iron brook
#

The hit race piece needs complete overhaul

Max ammo piece I dunno if I'll completely overhaul as well and commit to crit/ATK/Elemental

sweet trellis
#

somehow yours look even worse than mine

#

lol

#

this rng is not fun

iron brook
#

Yeah, my Rei is gonna have dogshit lines lol

#

All rocks into Asuka

#

But when this is done I'll have a peak Asuka

#

Will be curious how it compares to people who commit to the max ammo pathway

shadow igloo
iron brook
#

Can't wait for us all to soloraid with our 4/4/4 Reis

#

Skill resets where SU

thick arrow
#

maybe only maid skippers retain their skillbooks

real otter
#

limited amount of rolls/rocks , 2~3/9 lines actually being desired , on top extreme rng as the cherry on top

sweet trellis
#

not only the line, but also the value

#

lmao

real otter
#

Nikke end game is totally fair and fun

runic leaf
#

18 rocks pepelmao compensate for shit gacha

real otter
haughty jackal
#

Welcome to the ruins

crude sable
#

Isnt rei banner next week?

dense bough
#

SR starts in 2 weeks, ReiT banner starts in 1 week

crude sable
#

See

haughty jackal
#

Asuka willie

sweet trellis
small dock
#

it keeps giving me charge OL stats

sweet trellis
#

weird it was the same for me

#

i threw away about 15 rocks because it kept giving charge dmg and speed

warped swift
#

So is she good like og asuka?

sweet trellis
#

no she's not good like og asuka

#

og asuka is a dps + support for others

#

this one is not a support for others

runic leaf
#

Power creep with collab, disgusting angrycat

haughty jackal
#

Woah

#

Yeah I was thinking that probably you have fully build alice. That's impressive from asuka

kind stratus
#

wait until newbs find out that this gal is sbs 2.0 and is a must pull

#

but she's collabshit so she's gone forever Doro

haughty jackal
#

Investing into willie now

lament sand
#

kraken or union range?

haughty jackal
#

I don't have R dolls oof

lament sand
#

sure

haughty jackal
#

I knew it

dense bough
#

is this 3min wind weak shooting range or kraken mocks?

#

insane

#

how much ele?

#

oof

twin valve
#

Yeah we got the same result above actually

#

Like down to the dot

#

Rei is around 15-20% buff for asuka

But her DPS is low so overall SBS Alice = Asuka Rei

dense bough
#

can you run this on kraken mock? pepehmm

#

ah ty

sweet trellis
dense bough
#

Rapipi Crown SBS AsukaW Mana PepeHehehehehe

sweet trellis
#

Snake lost me when he bought Crown gacha

#

ReiT is just like her ReiA counterpart

#

skill books are enough

#

OL lines are whatever

twin valve
haughty jackal
#

Thanks

shadow igloo
#

Ngl

#

I don't like Collab powercreep

#

But is how SU likes to play

#

So, there's nothing to do

mental venture
#

is she better than OG Asuka?

#

is she worth it if alr have SBS?

sweet trellis
#

having your important rolls in slot 1 is not a good start

#

it is the worst start

#

what will you do lock line 1 and waste many rocks? or reroll the piece entirely

#

both cases it's not where you want to start

#

and if you leave her gear like this it is not a start but a finish instead

haughty jackal
#

I don't have rocks tho

#

But how fix? Just reroll whole piece or lock and reroll

deep burrow
# sweet trellis it is the worst start

It's just your perception Doro
First-line ATK/Ele is still better than first-line DEF
If you're rerolling, it won't change the future probability.
If not, the former gives better stats

grim lagoon
#

1st collab asuka?

thick arrow
high mountain
#

how does she do against a neutral boss?

#

good debuffer sub dps?

manic gulch
#

finally, green DPS

#

for kraken just put SBS-Asuka-Noir or SBS-Asuka-Rei offburst?

#

or maybe SBS-Asuka-Mana offburst

toxic ingot
#

Half-anni should be April 30th since the next Wednesday is May 7th, which is after the 4th

west sundial
# haughty jackal But how fix? Just reroll whole piece or lock and reroll

you'd reroll until you have a good stat in the 3rd line, lock and then reroll till you get a 2nd good line then finally first. so yeah, you infact do NOT have a good start. the chance to get 2nd and 3rd line is smaller so you don't want to lock 1st line and just hope to get a second and third when you're wasting more rocks that way

warped swift
#

So is she good?

haughty jackal
#

And probably other evangelion unit

#

Probably don't need her if you have invested into sbs and alice. Just like you don't need mana if you have alice ... Or don't need summer sakura or other summer or bunnies if you have crown

#

It's all about investment and units

#

But I'm talking about kraken tho

warped swift
#

Okay

haughty jackal
#

But people are still testing

toxic ingot
#

lol, not needing bunnies if you have Crown is a meme

warped swift
warped swift
toxic ingot
#

Won't be a conclusion until next week

#

Asuka's true power can't be seen without Rei

warped swift
#

Okay

#

Like og asuka yeah

toxic ingot
#

Even moreso

#

OG Asuka actually sees plenty of use without Rei

#

They synergize but aren't mechanically dependent on each other

#

Wind Rei is literally designed for Wind Asuka

#

If you fail to pull Wind Asuka, there's actually no point to getting Wind Rei KEKL

haughty jackal
#

I love pulling characters and then realizing they require more investment than my already invested characters only to be on par with them

sweet trellis
#

require is a strong word

#

even at 1/1/1 you will use them in wind raid

haughty jackal
#

I only want to kill kraken fast

#

And for campaign

#

Waiting for nerds to rate

wicked plume
#

just double checking
now that i have both asukas

i should pull wind rei before fire rei?

sweet trellis
#

definitely

twin valve
#

Asuka2 > Asuka 1 > Rei2 = Rei1 > Mari

SIP

sweet trellis
#

AsukaT+ReiT > Asuka > AsukaT > Mari > ReiA > ReiT

wicked plume
#

alright thank you both of you

sweet trellis
#

Asuka W + Rei TN > Asuka OG > Mari OG > Rei OG

terse vortex
#

Cannot wait until Eva3 comes out that we have 7 factorial ways for pull priority

sweet trellis
#

eva 3 is a good idea i should ask for that on the feedback form

dry peak
#

MLB material? Ngl using LB0 in campaign is kinda sussy

sweet trellis
#

can you not beat the latest hard campaign stages?

dry peak
#

Hmmm

#

Someone Ik beat the boss at sync 528 around 1240k cp

tame slate
#

So... do we need dupes for her?

sweet trellis
#

you guys are veterans with your own accounts who can answer this question for you? at this point you should know if you need dupes to meet your own goals

violet atlas
#

I can answer that question for you

round lichen
sweet trellis
#

the answer is always no

#

or core max

#

either or why settle in the middle?

toxic ingot
#

Kraken, manual on AsukaW.
SBS: MLB, SR11 doll, +5/+5/+5/+0, 10/7/10, 90.01% ele, 43.02% ATK, 133.75% Max Ammo, 6.61% CS
AsukaW: LB0, SR10 doll, +0/+0/+0/+0, 6/6/6, 95.63% ele, 26.44% ATK, 202.69% Max Ammo
Mana is 7/9/7, so comparable to Alice

#

Skill books are a bit of an issue, but I haven't done OC cycle yet, and it resets in a few days, so hopefully get get her up a bit more

sweet trellis
#

in this run did they both burst an equal amount of times?

toxic ingot
#

Good question. Lemme do another run. Just got Asuka's burst to 7 as well

#

Yeah, even bursts

#

Gonna try with Helm to tone SBS down since Asuka doesn't have Rei yet

#

Crown knocked out by tentacle laser with 3s left

#

Even bursts, again

#

Hilariously HelmT burst gen actually resulted in SBS having more damage than with off-burst Mana delugiggle

#

Looking very healthy for 6/6/7 and no Rei delulove2

#

Was actually my new record for Kraken score on that acount, about 30% to S9

sweet trellis
#

that convinced me that asukaW is worth owning alone

toxic ingot
#

Score recorded this time; SBS got about 3s~ of extra burst in that time

#

Helm only 5/6/6, too

haughty jackal
toxic ingot
#

If anything, I think HelmT would be the one getting kicked out

sweet trellis
#

i hope rei tn's personal dmg is crazy too

haughty jackal
toxic ingot
#

With HelmT at S1 level 5, she's still not providing a huge amount. With Mana, I had no burst gen either delugiggle

haughty jackal
#

Interesting

sweet trellis
#

triple mg on auto generates fine

#

it's not like you're waiting for 10 seconds to fill up burst

toxic ingot
#

If Grave were stronger on this account, I'd try her

#

but my alt's Grave is wimpy

haughty jackal
toxic ingot
#

Crown

#

A well-invested Grave actually gets about the same result as using Crown (pre-Helm) from my prior testing

#

Just much more difficult to pull off since it requires a ton of i-framing

#

If using Alice, though, Grave is major damage loss

haughty jackal
#

Interesting

toxic ingot
#

Not worth doing in 99% of cases

#

I'm just a weirdo with an insanely invested Grave

#

She's my main account's highest CP unit

crude whale
toxic ingot
#

My alt is purely wind-focused

#

Put 70 rocks into her

crude whale
#

those stats for 70 rocks is pretty good

toxic ingot
#

Yeah, pretty crazy luck with two of them

#

Started Ele/ATK

#

Although the slots are bad for going 12/12, sadly

crude whale
#

aah the classic line 1&2

toxic ingot
#

Feet were a 1/3 split with a lucky blue two rocks in on line 2

crude whale
#

good stuff man, going 12/12 is ridiculous expensive

toxic ingot
#

Yup

#

Holding off for now so I can get Rei at least okay

#

Only missing two ATK rolls, and one of the ones I have is black, so not too concerned

#

Last ammo is pretty much optional

versed kraken
#

how crucial is ammo?

#

ive used around 50 rocks so far

#

havent rerolled values yet

versed kraken
shadow igloo
#

ngl it hurts reroll those 22.15%

versed kraken
#

do i need ammo

#

if so how much

shadow igloo
#

150%+ imo

#

The minimum for a MG unit

silent basalt
#

shit to use

normal moat
#

Aight how buff is she

#

I skipped maids because they aren't meta/buff enough

sweet trellis
#

scroll up for tests

dry pine
#

Oh, nice comparison, she almost matched an Aliceless BS Scarlet

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So in the end, it's coming down to which you prefer more - having BS Scarlet's distributed damage AoE procs, or Asuka Wille's ... end-of-full-burst kabooms?

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For raiding, it seems to not matter much

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Because, the add waves that mattered are beatable by MGs (hit count)

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Or cheatable by AoE distributed dmg

haughty jackal
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It'll probably come down to that that you will play sbs with maids and assuka and rei with crown in raids or something

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Sbs with mana so then Alice could go to red asuka grave I would guess

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But that's just raid
I mean for kraken I don't think anyone not whale who already invested into
Crown and alice and sbs or uh mana or maids or even sakura summer
I don't think anyone who has thoose units build has any resources left to build evangelion units who would be stronger than their already invested units

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First rapi then mana then maids and now evangelion and everyone are kinda good for kraken 😭

dry pine
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Yeah, beating Kraken is no longer "that" special

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Sin was in danger of being outdone by everybody in the boonies but he wrapped up Kraken already

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But that "danger" was only because of the collab proliferating Asuka Wille sadge

rocky bough
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how does SU expect us to build asuka and rei after dropping maids

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where skill resets

lofty rivet
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You guys are lucky, I'm so broke I have both maids and Asuka at 1 🄲

runic leaf
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340 and only lb2

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Mother fker banner