[Rapi: Red Hood] New Unit Megathread

[violet dagger]

best is relative to goals and means

you can't literally have the best acc

that requires you to get someone else's acc

[wintry fox]

Not in solo raid, at least

[pallid crown]

in the past I tried and when I realized that I spent 30 mins in one stage I turned off the PC and I went to smoke a cigarette

[wintry fox]

Champions arena 💪💯🔥

Minigames are kinda balanced I guess

[high lotus]

whales will just still cp diff you through core 7 max doll units or something

[wintry fox]

Pure skill no whale

[pallid crown]

A boss fight, limited synchro, no recycle no ols no dolls

[violet dagger]

[pallid crown]

Ahahahahha

Cmon let me cope

[wintry fox]

You guys better hope there are no server merges for champs

JP will fuck us up

[rancid shore]

just play league

[violet dagger]

reason they don't is bc then revenue would plummet

would be fun otherwise

[wintry fox]

The insanely funny thing to me here is that, just try to understand this:

beta testers of this mid game weren't allowed to set their OL gear what they wanted to

And had to play this game normally

Why would they ever do this

[pallid crown]

Go open your nikke private server and make it possible

[wintry fox]

Setting custom overload gear is literally the worst business idea they can get at

[pallid crown]

Sadly this is a gacha that means competitive content gonna be always a whale thing

[formal pagoda]

[ripe gyro]

which is cheaper for rock economy?
lock line 1 and 2 and gamble 3rd
or reroll until 3rd line lock then gamble 1 and 2 ?

[pallid crown]

Full reroll

[wintry fox]

Free roll, don't lock
Aim for line 3

[pallid crown]

No blue or black lines no reason to waste custom locks

[violet dagger]

reroll until you get line 3

[pallid crown]

Rapi deserves 12/12

[wintry fox]

Imma settle at 11/12

[ripe gyro]

[wintry fox]

Tier 11 ele ammo line 1/2

Good enough for me

[pallid crown]

She deserves 1200 bullets

I want at least 100+ ele on her

Being double element is 2x1

[ripe gyro]

i already have 2 atk/ele/ammo gears on her, the other 2 are ammo ele and atk ele, which one do you suggest i start full rerolling first?

[wintry fox]

Depends on what line each of those effects are on

Show your gear

[ripe gyro]

derp

messed it up

[wintry fox]

Ok bottom left is fine as is

Full reroll the top left

[pallid crown]

2/4 perfect pieces

[ripe gyro]

[pallid crown]

GG after solo raid you can focus on improving her element lines

[wintry fox]

Just forget about bottom left tbh, move on to another unit after fixing top left

[ripe gyro]

we go for 11/12

can i have advice to fix my alice too sorry for hijacking

[pallid crown]

Is this you Alice?

Ugh

Ban him

Pls

[high lotus]

no cs, he's safe

[pallid crown]

Change those hit rate for charge speed

And it's done

[high lotus]

and that'll be super expensive

[pallid crown]

A bit expensive but you Alice is strong

Yeah around 50 rocks

But hey

Double ele black lines

[wintry fox]

Top right, lock ele/ammo, roll for CS on line 2

Bottom right, lock atk. Either reroll value of ele, or keep temp locking it. Roll for charge speed on line 2

[ripe gyro]

i need to pay my cs tax but idk where to start

[pallid crown]

Imagine Alice treasure+10% charge speed

[wintry fox]

I already gave you it
Around 13-28 rocks per piece, max 50 rocks id say

Just hope you get a good value when it appears

[rancid shore]

it just gonna take 42 rocks average for 2nd line cs

[pallid crown]

1,98%

[rancid shore]

[wintry fox]

Oh yeah
Wait, huh

[ripe gyro]

bottom right, you say lock atk and temp lock ele and roll?

[wintry fox]

Why is 42 here but here, all the double locked rerolls for 13-30 rocks in the simulation

============ Change_L1_Into_L3 Method ============

start_lines=['attack', None, None]
goal_lines=['element_dmg', 'attack', 'ammo']
  1. Raw Rolls: 0.0 (±0.00)
  2. Single Locked: 13.43 (±12.77)
  3. Double Locked: 13.55 (±14.00)
Total Rocks Used: 67.49 (±49.03)

[wintry fox]

Yes

[wintry fox]

Oh ok I know why, nvm

I remember what's different now

[rancid shore]

i mean its so hard to find a good trustful source to refer nowsaday, I used maincord stuff nope they are late to the meta, i used prydwen, controversial, i used maid's material, doubted by another maid

[wintry fox]

maybe, not sure

[wintry fox]

Gamble

Lock line 1 and gamble

[rancid shore]

[ripe gyro]

thx

[pallid crown]

Cmon momo put 300 rocks on her

[wintry fox]

Actually, never lock lines and just gamble

[steel junco]

It is the nature of the RNG, you win some you lose some

[high lotus]

worth the extra few waste dispatches

won't be able to go for 69420 until next year when we get 2026 gems

[violet dagger]

Look at start lines

Rolls are not rocks

Rolls are literal rolls

13.5 rolls means 3x13.5 rocks

[wintry fox]

Oh those are rolls?

Ohhh

Oh ok that's fucked

[wintry fox]

Yo dude good luck man
That's like 80 rocks

[violet dagger]

Anyway the way to roll alice is you have to allow yourself the leeway to pivot

[wintry fox]

That's
13 +-1r rolls??

That's insane

[violet dagger]

Yeah you could be in 1 in 6 ppl to get turbo fucked and need 26-28 rolls

High risk move

[wintry fox]

Aiming for a Line 2 is fucked

[violet dagger]

That's why you need to allow yourself the choice

To take 1 of 2 to 3 options

If you are ever forced to get a specific line in l2 or l3 you have fucked up

What he needs is to pivot his piece 1's line 1 ammo into cs if he can't get it on his other pieces

[wintry fox]

The major problem is that it's Alice
So a blue atk, a black ele both are very relevant for her

In general his atk is too low so I think he can give up going for neutral Alice, and instead just focus on ele Alice cuz 2 black ele lines

A safer path for now is

• He should aim to get cs/atk on line 2, and then get the other on line 1.
• For top right piece, I wouldn't want to give up on ele so maybe just force roll line 2 on that one with 1+3 locked, cuz goal is to build gigantic ele Alice

This should cut his costs down and should also allow to reroll charge speed value safely / cheaper on one of his peces

If needed

Cuz that's also smthng to worry about

[violet dagger]

The clear play is to just lock 1+3 on top right

Until he gets atk or cs

If he gets cs he's saved

[ripe gyro]

what happened to it being 50 rocks

💀

[violet dagger]

Cause then he can make the same play on the boots

[wintry fox]

I lied

[violet dagger]

If he gets atk he's kinda cooked and has to consider restarting boots from l3

Anyway just do top right first

Pray you get cs

If you don't get it then cleaning boots atk l1 is the play

[wintry fox]

So

• top right: atk/CS on line 2 with 1+3 locked, if atk, give up atk on bottom right, get ammo/CS on line 2. Get the remainder on line 1, otherwise:
• bottom right: ammo/CS on line 2 with 1+3 locked, if ammo, unlock line 1 on top left. Get CS line 1

Is what I understand?

[violet dagger]

Yes

[wintry fox]

That's a good find, I actually would never have thought of that

[violet dagger]

I've given a lot of alice advice over the last 2 years

[glass hearth]

why his pieces look like mine

[pallid crown]

Gimme 29 ele lines pls

[glass hearth]

its pain on line 1 tho

[pallid crown]

Yeah

[glass hearth]

peep my rapi lines tho 80 rocks for all this

[pallid crown]

I'm arriving at 90 rocks and only 1 piece is decent

[royal berry]

The last one

[glass hearth]

putting the pencil down for rapi for now to fix my alice

[royal berry]

Fix alice

[rancid shore]

[marble swan]

btw

it's 3 days now

[wintry fox]

My Alice is fine (almost)

My rrh is not

[pallid crown]

ugh your rrh expensive af

[wintry fox]

Only 50 rocks in for now

I'm gonna ditch the blue atk prolly

[pallid crown]

50 more fixing those 2nd lines

You sure?

well atk isn't that necessary

but blue is hard to obtain later

Sadly the right top imo is full reroll

[wintry fox]

Top right ain't getting changed

[pallid crown]

Or idk, depends if you want X4 atk

[wintry fox]

[pallid crown]

Oh just noticed your rrh has only 1 ammo line

Holy bricked

[steel junco]

time to use her with crown and privaty

[wintry fox]

Gonna user her as b1 so that DPS loss is minimal

[abstract knot]

Oof, only 1 ammo slot

[pallid crown]

Damn rrh B1 in fire raid

gg snake

[violet dagger]

why not just say rapi

[marble swan]

or Pari

[pallid crown]

Imma ignore him from now

[ripe gyro]

i think i understand after like 10 minutes or processing your advice and tsukino's
pray for cs top right, if not sacrifice the atkline on boots and just reroll boots

if ammo 2nd line, sacrifice the ammo line 1 on helm

[silver cradle]

Moar Ammo

[royal berry]

Mother fker in my union got this with less than 100

[hasty portal]

[topaz snow]

Diabolical

I'd tweak

[hasty portal]

I spent 10 gold upgrades on this

should have waited with the last one at lvl 13 since it jumps from 60-100%

[glass hearth]

@violet dagger

106.84% ele

[mighty lodge]

bury him

alive

[royal berry]

Plus his luck on gacha bury him alive is too soft.

[mighty lodge]

bury and burn him alive

[heavy wharf]

made him play concord, dustborn and unknown9 on repeat till forever

[pallid crown]

Force him to play dark souls with keyboard and mouse

[heavy wharf]

i finished no charm + bell NG+7 Sekiro on KB+M btw

[stray lance]

Actually this is normal

I finished Sekiro + Elden Ring with keyboard and mouse

[pallid crown]

yeah sekiro is not hard in keyboard

I dunno elden ring

[heavy wharf]

Dark souls is easy af

[stray lance]

Have never tried controller

[heavy wharf]

once you played later games

[pallid crown]

[shell willow]

Elden ring is easiest version of DS

[royal berry]

guess rapipi is done, the rest is fix asuka

[pallid crown]

Damn asuka B3 doing the same as rrh B1 kek

[royal berry]

my asuka is shit

[pallid crown]

Exactly that was my point xD

[rancid shore]

In that comp peak dps would be at:
2b8-3b Alice
1.9-2b Asuka
1.3-1.4b Rapipi
Rapipi = 3/4 Asuka
Asuka = 2/3 Alice

[royal berry]

make asuka to do 1.7b feel more possible than 2.8b alice

[rancid shore]

The thing i notice in alice is that to effectively track the core down

I pretty much have to know his movement ahead of time and snap shot into the core

I didnt optimize gameplay yet, did two time ytd second time gap 170ml comparing to first

All clear dps spread so far

My 5b17 run

Poor alice

[stray lance]

pew pew more

[vital tangle]

Looks like she needs some more ele dmg

Also weren’t you building grave n shit

Why you use standard comp

[rancid shore]

Similar score

Its all going back to how to alice

[indigo plaza]

momo when alice is the key to beating nvidia

[rancid shore]

Grave better with just pure mg

Grave crown by the time he decides to hit you and you have to micro manage dodge

U loose damage

And naga is just horny w animation

[mighty lodge]

is that 110% ele on rapi asuka alice?

[hasty portal]

I doubt it, her pwr is to low for such a high stat

[pallid crown]

191k too low?

Abnormal

Idk his console lvl in abnormal but 191k is quite high

[rancid shore]

Ed atk
Asuka 108-25
Rpp 80-40
Alice 56-20

[rancid shore]

Damage spread should be like this

[hasty portal]

I meant rapi

[pallid crown]

Oh well 170, my strongest unit has 171k in synchro 400 xD

[hasty portal]

why the whale and knee reactions, asuka is good but the other 2 are meh

[pallid crown]

[rancid shore]

Optimize rpp only net around 100-200 more

But optimize alice could net 600ml+ min

[steel junco]

200k is what? 3-4 black lines?

[rancid shore]

And lots of blue with it

[hasty portal]

at what core?

[rancid shore]

The 200k alice from bili has alot of attack

Nvm not alot, this is old info anyway

[steel junco]

My Alice is 154k CP rn with 1 black atk line

[rancid shore]

3 black ammo 1 black atk and ed 1 blue atk

[hasty portal]

at what lvl?

400?

[steel junco]

381

Core 4

[hasty portal]

man I need to go and work on my alice again

[marble swan]

no need

[pallid crown]

Lvl 300 console also helps

[marble swan]

work on Rapi

[steel junco]

Ahh true consoles...

[hasty portal]

this is my alice

and this my rapi

I spent 30 rocks already on getting that final line 1 atk on her gloves

[rancid shore]

This is pretty legit btw if you think about hyper carry units based on their damage spread

They can do 1/2 of other units in different element

B1 rapi can do 1/2 of b3 rapi/alice

[marble swan]

[rancid shore]

Rapi 1/2 of cindy

[hasty portal]

yeah I know, my cinderella and sbs are already hyper invested

and rapi kind of as well

I just need to fix her low % on a few pieces

only her ele has 2 high rolls but also one awfull roll

[steel junco]

Full burst gone

[pallid crown]

[steel junco]

4 ele
2 ammo
1 atk

[rancid shore]

Everyone got back to their poor man 1 rock per day cave and no longer flex

[steel junco]

Fuck it, I know I will regret it with collab coming next but I just cannot have another crown situation

[pliant phoenix]

Crown situation being?

[steel junco]

Haven't had a single dupe drop.

Would still be crownless if I hadn't ticketed her

[pallid crown]

Well at least crown is only support

no copies of a dps in almost 1 year is sad af

[gritty token]

Took me 1 year to get a SBS drop, learn from my mistake, get a RapiRH

Hell, took me 1.5 years to get a Modernia

[high lotus]

I skipped bsoda and it took me half a year to get her despite wishlist

you should skip with the mindset that if you skip, better prepare to not get the unit for a year

wishlist means skip

if full skip is a 1, and must pull is a 10

wishlist-only is a 2 (pilgrim/overspec) or 3 (standard)

too many ppl treat it like a 5

personally I would never wishlist-only a unit unless low on pulls

either full skip or get at least a copy

never making that mistake again ever since bsoda

[gritty token]

I still don't have DWife, and objectively I should be getting her from the gauranteed selector currently up, but gotta hoard gems for Evangelion lol

The once a year guarantee is a failsafe pilgrim and Overspec don't have tho

[royal berry]

Unsync cursor for more damage and Asuka still can't get higher than Rapipi

[rancid shore]

asuka p4 rpp p2

[royal berry]

Will try it later

[gritty token]

Will that really make any difference?

P2 and P4 are both backline

If there's any damage change from swapping the two it's a bug

Logically P3 should be best spot for Asuka, getting a marginal amount more core hits from being closer to the core.

[rancid shore]

its just p3 can miss core

p4p5 just a hoard, but i follow anyway cuz it seems more damage

[gritty token]

Wait P3 can miss core?

But it's right in the centre, and frontline, so should be lowest bullet distance/ highest effective hit rate

[alpine hatch]

Watch when Indivilia falls over

Body slants in a way to cause P3 to lock off of the core

[forest helm]

and don't forget that he still gets top 50 SR

also this

[alpine hatch]

With pierce, still hittable if no lock, but highly unreliable

[forest helm]

bro using 3 max core units and still 50k cp less than second lowest clear

momo is 619 already

[forest helm]

u locked line 2?

[shell willow]

RRH s1 which lvl for no delay cycle
I reached lvl 9 but still got waiting cd during kraken

[forest helm]

get lv10

[rancid shore]

that mg comp with rapipi will make that stage dirt ez

[steel junco]

temp lock

[forest helm]

big win

[rancid shore]

about to clear the mothewhale, the electric doesnt need to hit shiet, i just spend entire time trying to stay alive

[gritty token]

Thanks for the explanation, guess I'll put Grave in the P3 slot for my Eva Indivilia team instead.

Hadn't considered the slant of the collapsed state.

[small meteor]

they missing the best electric at breaking parts dps

piercing

[rancid shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136429209175216168/1326406630446858271/thuzi.gif

[hasty portal]

0+1

[marble swan]

least schizo prydwen writer

off till Feb and reply to the void

[hasty portal]

finally, a blue around 14,5

[fast sun]

lol failed so much he got 4 raw level ups

[hasty portal]

I failed 10 gold upgrades

[pliant phoenix]

Eww

[pliant phoenix]

100 golds?

[hasty portal]

yes

[pliant phoenix]

Karma will make it up to you with better luck elsewhere

[hasty portal]

[hasty portal]

I think this was karma for how lucky I was with the other dolls

Sr15: rapi, rh, sbs, cindy, grave, crown, rouge, liter, viper, diesel, laplace and exia

I regret liter, diesel and laplace

[royal berry]

Did you buy doll pack?

[marble swan]

regret Lappy

how dare u

[hasty portal]

ye

[royal berry]

This is forgivable.

[hasty portal]

I wasted the entier new years pack +what I had saved since the middle of december till today on rapi

[royal berry]

Happened to me with Cindy as well. SR14 with 30 purple to 15

[indigo plaza]

wow yellow whale

[hasty portal]

no only dolphin

[pallid crown]

Smh whale

[hasty portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1146910139161510108/1325933026152284290/Screenshot_2025-01-06_220357.png?ex=677ee85c&is=677d96dc&hm=37a6c598001e0e36178fa0082b359f0cda008f7554ba4db686601e162dcabe11&

I don't even have that many c7 units

[wintry hawk]

Thats lot!

[pallid crown]

Synchro 348 with 8 c7 units xD

[indigo plaza]

he bought asuka gacha skin, that's the final nail in the coffin

[pallid crown]

Viper gacha skin

Yeah big whale

[indigo plaza]

literally the worst gacha skin and he bought it

[gritty token]

I bought it too.

The value isn't in the outfit but the burst animation. Default falling out the sky one is trash

Literally just buying the same outfit but with a better burst

Emilia the worst skin imo, since her default is both a better outfit and better burst animation

Plus so low budget the chibi is straight up a Frankenstein of Emilia's head on Ade's body

[hasty portal]

I didn't?

[hasty portal]

she was my second strongest unit till I finished the rapi doll just now

[hasty portal]

also, my units aren't even that strong, my cindy has 140k pwr, meanwhile in my pvp server there is a guy with lvl 350 that has a 150k pwr mpriv

for reference, my cindy is c7 sr15, all 5 ol are lvl 5 and she has 102% ele with 2 atk rolls, a black ammo and 3 crit rolls

[pliant phoenix]

You shouldn’t regret Diesel and Laplace, at the least you can count them as collectible unlocks

[fresh linden]

I just got R doll from the doll's box 😊

[vale tide]

bro a whale and doesnt have liter skin

[hasty portal]

I started playing during moran banner

[pallid crown]

Whel

[hasty portal]

I don't even buy that much cd

a guy in my server started 3 days before me and is 35 lvl higher

[heavy wharf]

new players now can catch up to old players much faster

progression is so much easier with CP from ol, dolls and broken meta units

[hasty portal]

ye

I am already in hm 26, I gain about 20 level per month

hell I am 349 and only missing 1b dmg to clear ai kraken

[heavy wharf]

[hasty portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145814463933579334/1321457502667276359/image.png?ex=677f1af4&is=677dc974&hm=94564709a9c6d5588209254b4245d806f7a30e90f86ec13d5ccee76ee7d45383&
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145814463933579334/1321457502319153202/image.png?ex=677f1af4&is=677dc974&hm=a048dac526a3bb32e4dba3de202a5d15b22f8edf35aede11e5b67b3ae5831899&

this was right before rapi released

[silver cradle]

[hasty portal]

what?

my sbs was only lb1 btw, now she is mlb

[royal berry]

Change rotation to burst asuka fist get more 100M
Rapipi get a bit more by change position...maybe

[urban comet]

Put Asuka in P2, put Rapi in P4

P3 is bricked

I think Asuka P1 is better tho

Crown P2

But Crown P1 can "bug" the laser

So u have to time the immune

P1 and P5 have highest dps

Followed by P2 and P4

[royal berry]

Time the immune

[urban comet]

@violet dagger Hi so uh

If I have imbalance like this, how should I approach upgrades from SR 5 to 15?

[unreal apex]

well open the boxes first

[violet dagger]

Lol yeah

Open the boxes first

[urban comet]

We wait for raid

I only open them during raid

For literally no reason

[unreal apex]

just eyeballing the boxes
150 blues to level 6. then purples to super success
60 purples to level 11 then golds to super success
should be able to do 2 of them unless really unlucky

[pallid crown]

Treasures when?

[mighty lodge]

maybe in next week update

[hasty portal]

11×3 rerolls for atk on the arms

getting 0+1 from kraken 2 days in a row adds to the experience

[urban comet]

Not worrh malding this

[hasty portal]

eh she is 11/12 with a total of around 70 rocks now

so I am still at a decent investment

[honest river]

rapi finally good

[pallid crown]

She's the goat

[glass hearth]

should not hard lock those low values

[hasty portal]

I am aware

bzt I ran out of temp locks about 8 rerolls ago

[pallid crown]

Time for you to hoard

And reroll other pieces with 1 rocks

[hasty portal]

nah

[pallid crown]

Smh whel

[hasty portal]

I want the atk now

[pallid crown]

[hasty portal]

something something sunk cost

[pallid crown]

[glass hearth]

how does that 1 max ammo thing work on Rapi's S2

what if noir S2 activates at the same time and makes it X/6

@urban comet

[urban comet]

I dont think it does that

[alpine hatch]

It doesn't

[mild forum]

Worst thing about Rapipi: burst animation

It looks like day 1 SR animation

[gritty token]

Gacha skin incoming to fix that I guess

Tbh I don't mind it

[steel junco]

Wdym gacha skin, we are going to get it for free from the popularity poll

[high lotus]

you guys still see burst animations?

[pallid crown]

wdym like day 1 SR animation?

[pliant phoenix]

event lobby scene is really nice on phone though, that smiling face takes up the whole screen (well, with Nikke interface all over it but yeah)

but yeah no need to touch MLB Rapi Hood Unless you must have bond rank 40

You can buy gacha skin and instantly use its skill cutscene without MLB

Or just use the super ❤️ event lobby scene

[hasty portal]

yeah its amazing

[wintry hawk]

Does anyone have kraken team with rhrapi and Alice doing over 1 bil?

Kinda curious

[mighty lodge]

you mean 5b?

[unreal apex]

maybe 1b personal dmg

my alice does 1b but rapi shouldnt be 1b if your alice is 1b maybe between 600 and 800 maybe

[hasty portal]

12x3, still nothing

why can't they have the stats randomly rotate untill you got every one once

[wintry hawk]

Ye Alice personal dmg

[wintry hawk]

As total ye or 4b idm. Just curious how it will looks like. Also or Alice is able to deal 1bil personal dmg with rhrapi

[unreal apex]

https://i.imgur.com/NHJlTsa.png

heres mine but prob not what youre looking for im 361 and prob diff investments so hard to compare

[wintry hawk]

Damn very impressive! Ill still suck with Alice manual vs Kraken lol.

[wintry hawk]

Preferably actually 1b+ but well. This with 361. Says enough that 1b+ is def possible with sync 381+ for example. Thanks 🫡

[unreal apex]

think shinono uploaded 1 yesterday as well

https://i.imgur.com/FIEl52O.png

thats his

[wintry hawk]

Ah thanks!

[wintry hawk]

Dayum, i really should practice tap shoot

Both of u amazing

[hasty portal]

whats your sbs investment?

I assume c7?

[unreal apex]

c6 but will c7 by event end. sr 15, 88.62 ele, 24.33 attack 11 cs, and 68 ammo

[wintry hawk]

This is mine, like u can see im waaay worser than u both 🤣

[hasty portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145814463933579334/1327014167676326008/Screenshot_2025-01-09_214005.png?ex=678185c0&is=67803440&hm=e7f6b39d0a73a0fb05a592c78735630f07a4f6d95fd9b1f38408ba58f2af6a55&

[unreal apex]

i actually think a lot of dmg can be gained just from the right tentacle killing timing and burst timings might not only be your alice shooting

[hasty portal]

this was my casual run just now

[hasty portal]

yeah this as well, its a good 300m more dmg for my sbs if I get everything right

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145814463933579334/1321457502667276359/image.png?ex=67811534&is=677fc3b4&hm=71e9638f5ba4f404f19f60d17a066a4e12cf6282810a918387ad5f4256f6bd86&

this was my best run ao far

[wintry hawk]

Wow

Gotta go back in corner realizing im Bad xd

[hasty portal]

no my units are just very strong

[unreal apex]

345 sync

[wintry hawk]

Ye trying to fix each time. Not handy with phone 😅

[wintry hawk]

Mine Alice and SBS is really well build. At least i think so. I can post them

[hasty portal]

oh I need to change it to mlb

[wintry hawk]

Nice

[hasty portal]

my rapi is only 25% atk with 3 stats, I have yet to reroll her % since I am still stuck on 11/12

[bronze oasis]

how to get this?

like name card

[minor quest]

https://nikke.ciu-app.com

[bronze oasis]

oh, thx

:)

Oh I misunderstood. haha
I thought it was a site that would automatically extract equipment options and stats by getting account info.

anyway thx

[rancid shore]

Rapipi b3 interact pretty well with Redhood. Rapipi b1 enable other relevant elemental dps (these are all Water Weak)

[hasty portal]

is that an ex stage?

[rancid shore]

tower

[urban comet]

Most poeple have Alice at 1b~1.1b (with Liter) dont stress urself

[hasty portal]

oh I didn't know bosses in tower appeared more then once

[urban comet]

Macro / fasthand is different tho

Esp 20 ammo+

Feels like heaven

[hasty portal]

mine is 13 ammo with 38% atk

[urban comet]

fast hand

Or honestly bad rotation

Cus there is rotation that fks up SBS damage and trades it for Alice which is not good

But I cant tell since ure sync 345

And ur SBS dealing 97% of my SBS

At sync 400

Cus my SBS is 🧱

[hasty portal]

[urban comet]

If I use chair I can def get a much higher score

[hasty portal]

I wait with killing the second tentacle till right before alice burst runs out and then after the phase change I also wait with killing the tentacles so sbs burst is up by the time the ele qte hits

[urban comet]

Rapi is the best generic dps

[urban comet]

So after qte wall, whose burst is it

[hasty portal]

sbs

[urban comet]

Interesting

I assume battle ends with 10s SBS FB?

[hasty portal]

~8 sec

depends on how fast I click burst and deal with the ele qte

[urban comet]

I see

U need to waste more Alice FB in the qte wall

About ~2s more

Or use and get 14FB

Rapipi RH has good synergy cus Rapipi eats and uses RH B1 buff even during RH rotation

[hasty portal]

I do use her now, this was a comfy run yesterday

[urban comet]

Less score?

[hasty portal]

he respawns at around 1:28 left for me usually

[urban comet]

-360m from Alice

Full auto?

[hasty portal]

COMFY run

[urban comet]

Describe

COMFY run

[hasty portal]

not optimicing rotation and naga dieing during the first ele qte after phase change

[urban comet]

[hasty portal]

wait so crown sbs rh rhapi and naga?

don't you lose quite a bit of sbs dmg that way?

[urban comet]

I was talking about Momoland

[hasty portal]

oh

[rancid shore]

boss has parts = rpp auto gap up (Wind Weak GD)

sbs has no atk

nihilister

4 parts aoe

this hit both the side gun and leg part, random shot toward qte sometime which is good too

[rancid shore]

Volley balls (Iron weak)

[urban comet]

How did the left ball not run away but the right ball run away

[rancid shore]

cuz half of deeznut in your mouth

[royal berry]

That is blessing. If those ball still exist in next chapter.

[heavy wharf]

sbs is like the only really reliable way to deal with them

[rancid shore]

true

[wintry hawk]

I know, but i like to make a goal for myself :). But thanks

[rancid shore]

Weak Indivilia

get more ammo

that comp can do very well in electric stages too since electric mob nikke is kinda pepega including ein

as long as no elemental shield stuff

like she has too much aoe, this is like ssss tier campaign

no cdr issue

the rh burst all ready for second

and the cdr is very small, that window the only thing cuck u is volley balls, they always appears when first burst ends

as long as the moment rapipi burst, everything is wiped off her area

[marble swan]

[indigo plaza]

[main zodiac]

I forgot when doing the survey how much I hate how much rapi's whole body bounces around while firing her MG

[ocean gate]

I can roll thirty times for her and, should I fail, I can gold ticket two more Rapis. Should I or would it be smarter to wait?

[hasty portal]

14x3, I keep getting either crit rate or crit dmg in first slot

[rancid shore]

U hit the bad luck zone already

[hasty portal]

yeah

[rancid shore]

[indigo plaza]

[rancid shore]

"for newer players it might be a bit diffult to use rapi as b1..."

he made good point here

its cheaper to build 2 dps (rapi+1) & use Liter at beginning than use rapi as b1 (still invested) and pick 2+ flexible dps (need invest)

[fresh linden]

Change or stay?

Rapipi have 2 Max ammo left when changed.

[rancid shore]

change ofc

[fresh linden]

hmm, I guess because on paper, max ammo and elemental equally good for Rapipi, but consider the 3rd slot.

It give elemental more value

[indigo plaza]

way easier to buff up ammo from other units than to buff up ele damage

[hollow hinge]

does anyone have calc list?

[solid fog]

so boys, how expensive was it for you guys to MLB rapi XD

im tempted to just slam it

[urban comet]

why didnt u lock that shit

the ammo

bro

it was level 10 ammo

[glass hearth]

[urban comet]

now thats rare + only 12% chance u can get similar or higher level

she scales best with ammo

then ELE then ATK

[sly bane]

70 pulls and 200 mileage

ez

[elfin stump]

510 pulls + 200 mileage

[wintry fox]

110 + 400

[gentle tangle]

150 + 400

[pallid crown]

0+800

[sly bane]

@wintry fox remove his name change perms plz

[fresh linden]

nice try

[rancid shore]

[pliant phoenix]

This confuses me, why are the numbers on the right for the wrong characters?

[rancid shore]

[pliant phoenix]

Oh. True damage

OP

Why no treasure Laplace?

[rancid shore]

not built yet

Liter still bettere here for the qte over rpp (chapter 33 boss)

[fresh linden]

I skipped Flora and somehow she is chilling with me, 1*

I got her from Rapipi's banner

[rancid shore]

She looks pretty good

[fresh linden]

Chapter 33 boss is easy when you already pass dumbfuck MC

[rancid shore]

Yea this one is pretty rng now

I just try to see how rpp played here

She has no advantage of the cdr over liter neither

[fresh linden]

Mana is next!!

SU, YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME!!

I'M BROKE

[wintry hawk]

You're save

[urban comet]

Im not joking

U shud have locked a line 3

[fresh linden]

My Rapipi only had one elemental

though now she have two, and also two max ammo

around 600 ammo

[drowsy apex]

[high lotus]

my rapipi has just enough ammo to be at 99% of the bomb bar when she reloads several times in mod fight

gonna reroll value on one of my ammo rolls, hoping to get even a single tier higher

[vagrant mantle]

I didn’t even know that can happen

[high lotus]

ok sr10 doll ammo increase gave me enough

[hasty portal]

am at 16 rerolls now, I got def two days in a row

[rancid shore]

ReiA vs Balls ( ❌ )
edit: might be wrong here, just saw her nuke those bombs like nothing maybe she also good

Rapipi vs Balls ( ✅ )

Both cases at Weak Stages at 28% Deficit, this is the deficit when we cleared MC

natural comp

[fresh linden]

who are we

[rancid shore]

[royal berry]

Dog OL. Number can't get higher than tier 9.

[high lotus]

I purposefully temporarily bricked my rapipi so I don't tempt myself to run more SR

went from a piece with just line 2 ele (rest were useless), to this today, prob doing less dmg in SR now, but worth the temp brick, another step towards 11/12

yup less dmg

[sly bane]

[gritty token]

Keep getting ATK and Max Ammo

But cannot get elemental for the life of me

At this point I'm gonna have to concede that it's not happening and live with only 2 elemental rolls across four gear

[alpine hatch]

That's my life with Asuka

[hasty portal]

am also close to giving up, 17 rerolls now for first line atk and still nothing

those 51 stones could have helped my lther units quite a lot

[night anvil]

so I didnt check much more info after release , does she move out liter in campaign ? I know in kraken she does or at least I moved her and notice a tad better results

[rancid shore]

No she doesnt move Liter out

Just a good option for b1 if b3s are built and u need better cdr

If b3s are not properly built and Rapipi is builts, she b3 all stages boss normal etc

She deals ALOT of aoe damage

[night anvil]

and as for b3 is picking the highest power ones from the meta list the best?

or should I swap depending on element if I struggle

rapi is like 6k below rh

[rancid shore]

Just use rapi as b3

And have an elemental dps on if there is qte requiring it

[high lotus]

first attempt at getting line 2

[hasty portal]

finally got it and now I missclicked out of habit

19x3 rerolls, I am sure I will get atk soon again

[hardy swallow]

Happened to me, took me 12 x3 rolls to get it back. Pain…
Good luck

[hasty portal]

goodbye cruel world

[pallid crown]

Gimme your luck

[indigo plaza]

hey

gimme those rrh rolls

[pliant phoenix]

Congo line of people with 80%+ ele rolls go

[rigid vortex]

Is Rapi better B1 than Liter?

[scarlet thicket]

Sort of. Liter has better buffs and cover repair, but her personal damage is pitiful, her buffs only last for 5 seconds rather than the entire Full Burst, and her CDR takes 3 Full Bursts to ramp up to smoothly transition between one Full Burst to the next

(That, and her max ammo buffs are less valuable depending on your team's OL lines)

SSR Rapi, by comparison, has pretty mediocre team buffs, but extremely high damage for a B1 support and her team cooldown reduction is at max value as soon as the fight starts

so depending on the team comp, SSR Rapi can make up for her weaker buffs by having higher personal damage and possibly eeking out an extra Full Burst for her team because her CDR doesn't need to scale up like Liter's

Also, the current meta Fire Team with Asuka and/or Rei buffs all Fire units (e.g. Crown/Grave-SSR Rapi-Asuka-Rei-Modernia), so a B1 SSR Rapi can functionally allow your team to have 4-5 DPS rather than the conventional 2-3 Attackers on most teams

Liter is still extremely good as a B1. It's just that SSR Rapi is one of the first B1s to come out where it's a legitimate competition between two equally good options for the B1 slot, rather than the usual case where almost every team in your Union/Solo Raid wants Liter and you just have to pick favorites

[tough gust]

Yea liter not gonna be replaced anytime soon unless Shiftup makes a stronger CDR buffer

[gritty token]

The only way Liter gets replaced is if we're already swimming in ATK buffs

Liter's greatest strength is how concentrated her buffs are into ATK, which happens to be the exact buff needed most for CP deficit.

Meanwhile e.g. Rapi RH gives mixed buffs between ATK and ATK Damage

I guess the only other noteworthy difference is RapiRH should be better for defender and supporter DPS (Cindy, XMaiden, S.Anis, etc), so if we get more of them we may see Rapi take a more definitive control of the "team 1" slot

But for now Cindy&XMaiden have Rouge, and S.Anis is barely relevant as a DPS.

[indigo plaza]

liter is still used because she has cdr, atk buffs and cover repair in one.
cover repair is a very underrated mechanic atm. it's why you can go liter + no healer on most comps for SR nowadays

[heavy wharf]

i don't think people underrate cover repair

how many players have liter but just don't use it vs high cp nihilister because they underrate her cover repair? pretty much nobody

finally got lucky with rapipi

[unreal apex]

low clears using rrh and naga now for cover repair

[pliant phoenix]

Cover repair is the same as heals. Only good as long as you're teetering on the edge of binary success or failure. Once you're consistently successful without needing cover repair or heals, these utilities suddenly become worthless trash

But I don't think it's that point yet for many things, Liter will be forever useful Especially with being able to bring CDR and offense buffing

[rigid vortex]

I wonder why they not releasing B1 stronger than Liter yet
She and Alice never dethroned from Meta since the game released

But tbh right now, we need more B2 CDR rather than B1 (who's Dolla)

[pliant phoenix]

I think it's plain as day that they've established upper thresholds and do not easily make decisions to exceed or move them

Controlled power creep, power inflation, or performance inflation is what they're doing

Sometimes ShiftUp will relase a weaker character that seems strong, only to outdo it with another new character shortly after, and that'll be because they already knew it was going to happen and had already moved the thresholds

[rigid vortex]

Oh yeah
If they release the the strongest right now
Who pull for future character if they're weaker

[fresh linden]

Someone on reddit spend entire year of luck

[urban comet]

He got 6 rapi

[pallid crown]

Nah the real luck is rerolling ols

And get full ele black lines

[heavy wharf]

blacked dot com

[main zodiac]

Are you willing to do it again?

[violet dagger]

Just do helmet

See what you get line 2

Hopefully not cs

Then go l1

[heavy wharf]

i'd remove lock and full reroll the helmet tbh

oh wait

wrong one

what i meant is remove lock from boots and full reroll

[sly bane]

yeah these boots

who got that table

[heavy wharf]

only vest should be left as is, the rest are reroll material

[sly bane]

with max ammo% and the ammo it actually gives depending on base ammo/weapon type

[heavy wharf]

just calculate it

[violet dagger]

You shouldn't go boots first

[heavy wharf]

i didnt say so

helmet should be first

[steel junco]

#1021938613484785674 message

[violet dagger]

Going helmet first is better to determine l1

[steel junco]

Oh true, not accesable for everyone

[sly bane]

ty

[heavy wharf]

both boots and arms should be fully reroll

but after fishing for ele in helmet ofc

[main zodiac]

The main thing is that I'm below the CS threshold. If I'm rerolling helm, it'll be even worse?

[sly bane]

I'd full reroll boots which has trash rolls anyway so you see if you get CS there

[mossy solstice]

people are rerolling Helm for chrg spd now?

[abstract knot]

It's most likely to leave her on auto now

[hasty portal]

9x3

those 27 rocks would have been really usefull with fixxing her %

[pallid crown]

12/12 rapiH

[hasty portal]

yeah and I would have had it a lot earlier if I didn't click the wrong button

[high lotus]

idk if it's worth hunting for my 4th atk line....

[hasty portal]

only her ele and crit dmg is good

[high lotus]

I would have to fix this piece...

[pallid crown]

yeah fix

fuck that ele on first line

22.15% is 7% no good reasons to save that ele line

[pallid crown]

[hasty portal]

[pallid crown]

Good ele, you need a bit of ammo

Just like everyone

[hasty portal]

yeah I know, my goal is 200%

[hasty portal]

do I roll the gloves now till I get a 1% roll or do another one first?

[rancid shore]

glove, cheap, might get 85% ammo and no longer need to worry much about getting 4th ammo on boots

key word "might"

[heavy wharf]

just get lv15 line

no problem

[rancid shore]

its better to roll other piece to finish up atk/ed then whatever ammo there, decide to go for last ammo or not, its a long way though, u might end up with extra crit/crit damage maybe dont have to fish for second line ammo

[hasty portal]

my goal is 200% ammo, keeping the crit dmg

[rancid shore]

yea i have same set up, but fishing line 1 ammo, could end up not doing it to keep the crit

but gotta work on other piece first so gonna take awhile

[hasty portal]

ammo went down

[rancid shore]

Bitch stop flex on me u hoe

Now roll atk

And whatever ammo ends up with, it is what it is

Maybe work on other piece now

The similar piece

[hasty portal]

[pallid crown]

He's flexing another black ele line

[small meteor]

mid unit, skip

/s unfollow post

[grave mist]

Finally got the 2nd line. What would I do in this situation?

[indigo plaza]

lock both with custom locks until you get atk

[grave mist]

Cause I'm not sure if i should lock one with rock and then custom locks or the like lol

But noted

[rancid shore]

just lock ammo with rock

[indigo plaza]

yea 69% is high enough for a rock lock

[rancid shore]

lock with custom on second line first, then 2 rock line 3

if lock with rock line 3 first then it cost extra 10 custom

[steel junco]

I just wasted 16 rocks trying to get a 2nd line locking line 3

[indigo plaza]

[rancid shore]

10 rocks saved over 3 days

and SU not forgot sending me a bonus slap at the end

[queen dock]

nvr would i see the day got 2 black Ele lines

that puts me 100+ ele dmg from lines alone

[urban comet]

Lock both

[marble swan]

her burst triggers Full Burst bonus, how?

ah additional dmg

they really go all their way to break her

yeah, just as I expect, her drill dmg is increased by range bonus too lmao

[karmic night]

Oh the explosions are affected by range bonus too

Wtf

1.20x increase
Since theres FBM multi too

[pallid crown]

She's busted af

[stable glen]

genuine question: when the hell are they gonna make her a wishlist option? They said they would

[alpine hatch]

Same as always

Next time the app updates

Last year about this time, we had 4 units stuck in limbo (Leona, Ade, M Priv, Elegg) and they all got added in at collab event

[stable glen]

there is no "always" in my experience. The list sometimes doesn't update for a while

[alpine hatch]

It'll probably be the same this time

Rapi, Mana, Semaids will get added at NGE part 2

[pallid crown]

Update after this event yeah

[alpine hatch]

No, it's literally always with the app updates

Every time

Not game updates

[pallid crown]

They'll add rapiH mana and macho

[alpine hatch]

Like Play Store/Apple app

[pallid crown]

SBS was added mid February in 2024

In the standard pull so...

[alpine hatch]

Ah right, Leona and SBS got added together

It was Moran with the other three

This time they did Mana + Maids rather than NY + Mana

[steel junco]

Unless we are getting a filler banner between maids and collab I don't think we are getting maids yet.

But we could be getting mana and rrh

[alpine hatch]

If there's a filler, then I think we're getting five units in limbo

[pallid crown]

[alpine hatch]

Rapi should be in wishlist by collab for sure tho

That'll be a major update

[steel junco]

Cuz if they add maids with collab it would be the first time I hear an unit getting into the wishlist but still have an active banner

[alpine hatch]

Oh right, cuz Anchor is floating into next

ye

Filler event then

That lines up better with solo raid anyway

Filler event + UR

[pallid crown]

[alpine hatch]

Then app update for collab + wishlist

[pallid crown]

Yeah Collab brings a big update, even 2 chapters are gonna be added

[alpine hatch]

So RRH, Mana, Sea Maids, and +1 will all be chilling in Deep Sector together

[alpine hatch]

Champion Arena as well

[pallid crown]

At last!! 2 units to add in elysion wishlist

Yeah yeah champion arena, 2026-27 take or leave

[wintry fox]

That's 2 months

[steel junco]

Finally a reason to actually push ely tower, for maid dupes

[alpine hatch]

Champion Arena added every update

It's the Herobrine of Nikke

[steel junco]

Because rapi being stolen by the overspec shenanigans

[pallid crown]

Well I want dwife c7 one day...

[wintry fox]

Finna be shit anyways

At least minecraft story mode cooked herobrine stuff

[pallid crown]

[civic inlet]

What upgrades do i need for her equipment?

[civic inlet]

How do i check pins

On android

Theres no pins tab

No pins anywhere

[alpine hatch]

In the settings for some reason

Mobile Discord is a pain

#1320717056311693392 message

[civic inlet]

Thanks

[indigo plaza]

nvm

[little lintel]

127 rocks

[pallid crown]

127 only?

I'm touching 200 still no good numbers lol

[heavy wharf]

my condolences

[indigo plaza]

if i keep track of rocks spent on every unit, i'll go depresso

[pallid crown]

I'm Expresso rn

[rancid shore]

That looks horrible for 127, more like 27

[pallid crown]

Well to be fair he has 2 pieces where he just need atk

Tell them how easy is fish first line X3 rocks Momo

[rancid shore]

I got good amount of pictures i saved with first line costed more than my 3rd line fishing now lol

[pallid crown]

[steel junco]

Sounds exactly like gamba

[rancid shore]

Yeah exactly lol

AlexAI just used 1.5 month worth of rocks

And im nearly 2 months worth of rocks on rapi now

[pallid crown]

I'm arriving at 1,5 months

And this whole month the progression was unfair

[steel junco]

This is why I stopped caring about rapi for now and went to fix my water units

[rancid shore]

I did same for HelmT

She only get 30 rocks though, dont think further is good

[steel junco]

I will settle with 4x Ele 3x atk for now

Need to fix viper and Quency

[pallid crown]

Brid

And sneon

[little lintel]

Took 66 rocks to get line 2 on boots, had this at one point

[rancid shore]

66 for 2nd line thats more than average i believe, where is that rock consumption picture

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1113858707311296634/1325694656482115706/Overloadodds.png?ex=67a24b9c&is=67a0fa1c&hm=f700a67e23b68691ca48e8e5db3639a4e3af83556b62a7b5af921ad66548170b&

Supposed to cost 37 average

[sly bane]

37 minus 21

[pallid crown]

[main zodiac]

Tier 14 attack/elemental lines are worth dumping if they're line 1?

[pallid crown]

1%

To get 'em

[sly bane]

probably yeah

even if aiming for 12/12

cost for 3 then 2 with 1 locked is 69 on avg

vs 47 for the full 3->2->1 from scratch

so you pay 22 rocks to keep it essentially

[pliant phoenix]

Good to know

Doesn't that mean 47 x 4 is the avg for from scratch seeking 12/12

188 rocks

[sly bane]

yeah and thats without ever rerolling for %

but theres a lot of simplifications and assumotions

the maths isn’t 100% precise

accurate enough for me, it wasn’t meant to be shared

[pliant phoenix]

Sharing is caring! I appreciate the information

Even having some sense of the approximates is better than clueless

[main zodiac]

And how many rocks does it cost to get the line back up to Blue?

[sly bane]

tier 14+ is 2% so 50 rocks for that specific line

25 rocks for tier 12+/blue

but since you reroll all 3 lines % at the same time you could get another line in blue so its more complicated

[sly bane]

wait did you mean throwing away or locking

cause I think its worth locking

[pliant phoenix]

Tbh for peace of mind if you see a T14 or T15 on line 1, and it's a highly desirable effect like Ele Dmg, worth a lock to eliminate possibility of bad rng behind getting it again

Because it includes reset % costs being saved

But it better be crazy desirable as heck

For neutral element this is worthless so someone you'd use against all elements doesn't need to emphasize one line so much, unless it's T15 or some special kit that needs a line 1 lock of that effect

[silk pivot]

perhaps pretty very off topic to the current topic being discused here but. what cube is the best for rrh?

[pliant phoenix]

Probably Bastion like most MGs unless in a reload speed team, then it's Resilience

And honestly either cube works fine in any comp because you'd have to evaluate by the fight to know for sure

[silk pivot]

i see. thank you

[main zodiac]

Dump, as in "get rid of"

[pliant phoenix]

Like if you keep failing to finish reload in time because the boss immediately does something and you want uptime, and you have a crazy sick amount of ammo anyway from OLs and doll, then Resilience might be picked over Bastion if this makes the difference in letting RRH finish reloading and start shooting already, and later there's another forced reload moment anyway

[silk pivot]

Forced reload moment?

[pliant phoenix]

Boss going untargetable

[silk pivot]

oh i see

[pliant phoenix]

Basically, you'd pick cube to align for best timing here

[silk pivot]

I see. thank you for the handful insight. now i know which to upgrade

[urban comet]

My rapi too strong I cant do pierce ignore anymore @rancid shore

The pincers get destroyed by her aoe

Speeding up rotation

I guess I need to get stage 6 milestone for more pincers HP

My Rapi B1 deals almost same damage than Asuka

Bricked Asuka vs good Rapi be like

[rancid shore]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldive-helldivers-2-gif-11818217541386663070

[urban comet]

Got 4932 in another run may mald for 5B. No chair tho

I expect with chair maybe idk 5.2-5.4B

I miss all my core shots in 2nd phase

I entered 2nd phase at 3.9B and enter wall at 4B

@fierce knot Hi dondon how do u hit alice shots when boss wriggles so much in 2nd phase

The one after qte wall

I set max aim assist and miss everything still

Maybe I overcompensate?

Maybe if I use chair I can hit more core cus I dont have to click

[pallid crown]

[heavy wharf]

chair with auto aim will solve everything

snap to the core like a dried turd

[urban comet]

Autoaim on chair? How do u even do that

[wintry hawk]

Enter channel u want to check pin message > Setting > pinned message

[pallid crown]

Gimme chair, mine is an old office chair

[steel junco]

Do we have an ammo % value on what bricks rapipi? I have 2 ammo lines and she always seems to reload at the worst time possible, so I feel like that could be fixed by getting more % on the 2 lines I already have

[pallid crown]

200%+

[steel junco]

I feel like having 3 lines with bad values could also brick her

[rancid shore]

U would be very lucky to hit 200 with only 3 ammo lines after fixing atk/ed

Usually that stat decided by final atk/ed and we take whatever the result is

[steel junco]

That's why I feel like I can unbrick her without having to get a 3rd or 4th line at least for now

She has 88.56 with 2 lines

[pallid crown]

88% ammo?

[steel junco]

Yeah 40.17 and 48.39

[pallid crown]

Well that's the reason why she's bricked xD

[steel junco]

Then I go back to my initial question

[pallid crown]

Is 60fps 60 bullets, right?