[Rapi: Red Hood] New Unit Megathread

[royal berry]

11/12 done with 105 rock

[rancid shore]

[stray lance]

[royal berry]

but number is kek

[stray lance]

Time to write feed back

Ask for new boss rotation in AI

[royal berry]

[karmic night]

Its the easiest boss fight of chapter 32

[pallid crown]

Or more boss fight modes

[rancid shore]

the full auto alice almost has it

[mighty lodge]

I’m broke now

[glass hearth]

why so much malding here tonight

[hasty portal]

damn what lvl are you for the stats to be that high?

[pallid crown]

He's synchro 850

[hasty portal]

[mighty lodge]

it's 565

[hasty portal]

thats still quite the jump, mine is 110k at 347
so I guess pwr increase isn't linear

[vital tangle]

It was never linear

Synchro 400 is at whale lvl around 800-900k cp

Synchro 800 at whale lvl is 4 mil+

At synchro 550+ you start to get the equivalent stats of jumping 20 lvls in synchro 300 on every single level

[hasty portal]

my strongest 5 are around 680k right now

[vital tangle]

My strongest 5 are at 1.114m at synchro 454

But mine are a bit more built than usual

[hasty portal]

well so are mine

my cinderella is the strongest at 140k with 102% ele

thought there is one guy in my pvp server that scares me, he has an mpriv that is 150k and our lvl is nearly the same

[gritty shell]

so then how good is she ?

[bronze oasis]

Why rapi:red hood to called rapipi

[pallid crown]

dunno

[heavy wharf]

cute name

[pallid crown]

I call her rrh

[bronze oasis]

who called rapipi at first lol

[bronze oasis]

my friends called her repi

maybe, re(d hood)+(ra)pi

or rad hood

[mighty lodge]

rapipi is cute

[hasty portal]

I like to call her rhapi

[pallid crown]

rrh

Take or leave

[bronze oasis]

oh good

I like it

[mighty lodge]

rrh is shorter tho like rh

[bronze oasis]

hm

[forest helm]

it is from a doujin

[bronze oasis]

oh

[forest helm]

not that panel but should be from the same series or artist

[tawdry cedar]

All the people calling rapi with abbreviations and me calling her my wife v2

[forest helm]

me calls her rapi

[urban comet]

You dont need 600 + 300

For ammo

But u need >600

At least >780

Depending on team cycle speed

If team rotates every 12s

Then 660 is fine even

The assumption was ~15s

2 ammo is barely enuf

We are talking about renaming the ideal passable thing

We wanted it to be one liners

Might as well be:

• You Must Have This
• Then Get This
• Bonus Lines (Don't Aim For These)

The reason why its ~300 is because not every FB is smooth

Sometimes it's longer or shorter

[mighty lodge]

so 912 ammo without liter is enough?

[urban comet]

Hell yes

I assume 800 is enuf too if its a fast rotating team

Imo I think cutoff is till Crown buff ends so

~15*60 = 900

Thats where the number came from

[gritty token]

In gonna laugh so hard in 6 months when a new player is asking why their team doesn't work, and they're using SR Rapi as a B1

And for that reason alone I never use abbreviations or add rh when referring to SSR Rapi

[forest helm]

just laugh

[mossy solstice]

got lucky with line3 but likely won't be fixed before raid

[heavy wharf]

you should fix piece 2 and 4 only imo

piece 1 require complete reroll

3 is fine as is

[mossy solstice]

I'll roll piece2 first
need more ammo desperately

[hoary glade]

liter or mod for rapi?

[karmic night]

That one

[lime horizon]

Putting aside all the stats, Rapi is just really fun to play. You can time her drills by staggering the rate of fire so it pops an explosion right when a group of raptures spawn, spread them out on parts and raptures strategically or concentrate them on boss sections, etc.

[fathom token]

It's the focus of the team is RH ... (Iron weak)
Crown / RRH / RH / Alice / Naga

[marble swan]

isn't this the description of Elysion ex Goat

Phantom

[lime horizon]

Without having to pause like with Phantom for maximum effectiveness?

Yes.

[marble swan]

you don't pause Phantom either

just git gud strafing

[lime horizon]

Phantom was still obviously the beta for Rapi's kit.

[marble swan]

and who gave them those data

it was me, the only Elysion pusher

[lime horizon]

Not the first time they've done it either.

[hoary glade]

Where u saw Alice btw

[heavy wharf]

how does Rapipi sticky grenade work...

[lime horizon]

Lore wise or mechanics?

[heavy wharf]

mech wise

i never controlling her

[karmic night]

Yea

[fathom token]

You don't give your box and what you want to do so i give generic information :p

[lime horizon]

Where you're pointing Rapi, a star drill attaches. They make it real easy with her percent counter to time them out if you want to manually.

They blow up when at start of her burst, or they blow up instantly when she's in burst

[vital tangle]

Iron weak shooting range
11.8 atk 60 ele sr 0 rapi as b1 8/9/9
versus
102 ele 29 atk sr 15 Maxwell 10/5/10

[heavy wharf]

did max eat the buff or Rapi ?

[vital tangle]

Max of course

C7 sr 15 higher atk

Rapi is mlb

[pallid crown]

Maxwell gacha skin when?

[lean arch]

Only if she's even more muscular

[pallid crown]

Racing queen skin

Like drake's skin

[lean arch]

🤨

[pallid crown]

[rancid shore]

maxwell mid tier b3

[karmic night]

I think shes stronger than b3 crow

[heavy wharf]

maxwho ?

[rancid shore]

mariana trench is where Crow at

[cold topaz]

She's deeper than her mom's womb

[fathom token]

I will do better, with nothing 😉
Liter B1 ... if Rapi B3 Liter is the best Buffer B1 for her ! RRH B1 Vs Liter ? RRH win in all the case where the DPS of teh B3 is not only in the 1~4sec of the FB.
Mod B3 .. RRH Offburst is better on = OL ... RRH Burst is Better on most of the fight too, but sometime the 5sec extra is better.
RRH is one off the best B1 AND B3 actually 😉
Do your Shooting Range !

[pallid crown]

I know this comp is old

but I wanted to try xd

btw my rapihood cant break the first slipper with her bomb/grenade so sometimes if I fail the pause I have to retry

I cant test cindy rapi sanis and xmaiden cuz my xmaiden cant break slippers even in burst

[mighty lodge]

elysion tower should be renamed to rapipi tower

[vital tangle]

How do I reroll this

Fk my life

[rancid shore]

hard lock ammo, soft lock ed and reroll

[vital tangle]

It’s gonna be painful isn’t it

To get the atk line

[vague hull]

It will

Took me 60 rocks to get atk line on the exact piece

[rancid shore]

its gonna be (11th attempt)

[vital tangle]

Esp since it’ll cost 3 rocks per reroll

And that’s barely the second piece I still need to do 2 more gear pieces

[rancid shore]

only 18 rocks

you can do 15

[vital tangle]

[hoary glade]

I still don’t understand a thing from your essay lol. The question was liter or modernia. How to screw that up?

[fathom token]

RRH can Superpass the TWO so ... that depend of your box ...

[hoary glade]

So ur advice is to use her 2 times? For liter and mod? Are u new to games? That’s not how it works lol

Also my synchro lvl is 491 as u saw, what do u imagine of my box xD

[rancid shore]

he just means you can use rpp in either slot and its an improvement

[fathom token]

I will do better, with nothing 😉
Liter B1 ... if Rapi B3 Liter is the best Buffer B1 for her ! RRH B1 Vs Liter ? RRH win in all the case where the DPS of teh B3 is not only in the 1~4sec of the FB.
Mod B3 .. RRH Offburst is better on = OL ... RRH Burst is Better on most of the fight too, but sometime the 5sec extra is better.
RRH is one off the best B1 AND B3 actually 😉
Do your Shooting Range ! bises

[hoary glade]

I don’t know how to phrase is easier haha

[nova wind]

how many ammo is good enough

[hoary glade]

Is she better than liter? Yes/no
is she better than mod? Yes/no

[rancid shore]

try to get total up to these

200 is equal to 3 lv11 ammo lines

[hoary glade]

Tf is shooting range? Rewards or skip

[nova wind]

aight ty

[fathom token]

Yes in both xD

[nova wind]

level 5 bastion or level 10 res

[fathom token]

10 res

[nova wind]

[forest helm]

get lv7 bastion lol

[hoary glade]

Ok now, a better improvement if replace liter or better if replace mod

[forest helm]

u should have both at lv7 before investing in either

[nova wind]

[forest helm]

and if bastion is not 7 yet, resi 10 is easy choice

[fathom token]

"Tf is shooting range?"

[fathom token]

Hard choice in fact ...
For SR and UR put your liter en shape ! for only HM RRH !

[rancid shore]

replace modernia easily in that comp

[hoary glade]

That’s too complicated again hahaha

Best 5 SSS characters I need

XD

[hoary glade]

Ty

[fathom token]

RRH is globaly better if that can help you 😉

Liter is not HS for multiple team like SR or UR, but HM you need the better.

[rigid vortex]

Because of limited resource, which skill i should level up first?

[ripe gyro]

can i have rock rerolling advice

[glass hearth]

rip lol

piece 1 and 3 wud prob just change effects (1 rock) until max ammo/ele/att appear on line 3

piece 2 wud temporary lock line 3 and change effects till max ammo/ele appear on line 2

piece 4 just temporary/hard lock line 2 and 3 and change effects till max ammo on line 1

[ripe gyro]

thanks

[minor quest]

That's a lot of bullets

Now I just need more ATK and some Ele

[rancid shore]

by the time the atk ed show up the ammo has been cut in half

[abstract knot]

I didn't get any slots that I wanted from the boots during the rerolls, until I used 1 rock and rerolled % on another piece

[glass hearth]

shudnt reset attributes till u get ele on line 1

but it worked out in the end

[abstract knot]

Yeah but I had 1 rock remaining, and got this result

I used the other 6 that I got today onto the boots, but didn't get an ele or ammo slot

For context, it's this piece

I locked and rerolled, didn't get ele or ammo after 6 rocks

[vital tangle]

@rancid shore new dilemma

[glass hearth]

can lock line 2 and change effects

[rancid shore]

i have piece like this on grave (at 4atk 3ed)
i hard lock second line and roll 3rd line ed (now 4atk 4 ed)

i mean at the end rpp will be the absolute fridaysale buy 1 get 2 hyper carry

~~its worth it ~~

[vital tangle]

True true

I think this one is easier to work on than the one with max ammo and ele dmg

[rancid shore]

this piece is easier to work with

u just gotta sacc 2rock to kickstart it

and 2 possible new usable lines

[vital tangle]

Ele dmg will be mandatory here

[rancid shore]

which might help while u fixing other pieces

[vital tangle]

If I can pull max ammo as well should be Gucci

Here’s my current rolls

Gloves I need atk chest I need ele dmg max ammo

Helm needs complete reroll

Boots can stay like this for now

[rancid shore]

if i get 1 rock per day

if i get 2 rocks per day

on every other day and 3 rocks (need 1+ days of custom lock)

[dark bison]

Quick question: Assuming equal investment, would R:RH be better than Granny in campaign?

Or at least as good?

[gritty token]

At high investment pretty confident she's just better for everything.

Liter is better at low investment though, only really needing her burst to be levelled.

Her CDR doesn't scale with skill level, and her burst doesn't scale with her own stats so gear&doll&dupes are irrelevant beyond CP.

Liter might still be better at high deficit campaign just because she's so ATK buff focused, and that's what you need to counteract the deficit

[dark bison]

Thx, got her to 7/7/7 and ok-ish lines on OL, so I'll probably push her to 10/10/10 then. Just getting tired of Liter. Had her since the beginning and she was my first C7. Time for her to ride off into the sunset

Until raids anyways....

[silk pivot]

after reading the pins

she replces my red hood

and so my crown cinderella rapi rh naga eam begins

[stray lance]

11x3

[silver cradle]

[glass hearth]

[high lotus]

rapi hates me

4 days of complete trash rolls (0 change)

can't even get a single good line 3

and today I got 0 drops

yesterday I got 1 drop

...

I'm going back to using liter for kraken

[royal berry]

Send this guy to Gulag

[silver cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-run-duck-run-duck-running-running-duck-gif-7950668956099519229

[marble swan]

or Pari

[high lotus]

I know who stole my luck

[rancid shore]

with this comp in coop u can just continue bursting with same b3 no?

[high lotus]

yes

[rancid shore]

[high lotus]

I've done it, alice has approx 3 sec cd still I think

unless the rapis have max invest s1, then maybe near none

[marble swan]

22.44s + 10s = 32.44s

if you burst gen faster than 7.6s, you will have a stroke

[vital tangle]

[bronze apex]

Can anyone give me a direction? I'm thinking about rolling another ED on the chest and then sitting on it for now. I still need to fix my awful Asuka.

[void sky]

pretty sure grave would fit in here better

literally have 3 MGs as well

[rancid shore]

its a public match

[void sky]

friend issue

[rancid shore]

try rolling the booth first (ammo/atk) , just use 1 rock and fish line 3 now, its the cheapest

arm helmet both hold essential lines rather than atk and chest has nice placement, so boot go first

[bronze apex]

Makes sense thanks

[urban comet]

Just add Dolla.

[pliant phoenix]

If I have two awkward pieces with two good effects but no line 2 on both, do I still reset their % for better ele dmg?

ele/-/ammo and ammo/-/ele pieces

[rancid shore]

If no blue black 3rd line just soft lock and reroll 2nd

[pliant phoenix]

As in soft lock lines 3 and 1 and reroll for a line 2?

[rancid shore]

It depend on the % of the 1st line, if they look nice i would personally do that

[steel junco]

Let me give you 2 examples

#1

I will lock line 1 and 3 and use rocks to get a 2nd line

#2

I will lock line 3 and reroll until I get a useful line 2 OR I get a blue or better useful line 1

Don't waste rocks on rerolling values if you don't have the 3 lines already

Because you will eventually will have to do it, and might be lucky to get a decent line in the process, not worth to lock low value lines, even if they are what you really need.

This only applies to 12/12 nikkes tho

[glass hearth]

Head - Change effects till Max Ammo/Element/Attack appears on Line 3, then follow same steps from Torso piece.
Torso - Temporary lock line 3 and change effects till Element/Attack appear on Line 2, then when it does, temporary lock line 3 and line 2 and change effects till Element/Attack appear on Line 1.
Arm - Change effects till Max Ammo/Element/Attack appears on Line 3, then follow same steps from Torso piece.
Leg - Change effects till Max Ammo/Element/Attack appears on Line 3, then follow same steps from Torso piece.

Start with Leg first since its the weakest piece.
If Head/Arm/Leg get a Tier 13-15 value on Line 2, can hard lock (since you won't reset attribute this later) that Line 2 and change effects till Max Ammo/Element/Attack appear on Line 3.

[rancid shore]

Rapi: Reroller thread

[high lotus]

still waiting on verdict to see if her b3 is good enough for high deficit campaign clears (when you have to use liter/dkw ofc)

ig the problem with rapi is that she simply doesn't fit into rh b1 teams

she's either the true b1 or you're using a true b1

if she can be top tier in those comps, that's good enough

esp if she doesn't have ele adv

[rancid shore]

i played Crown-SBS-Alice-RH-Dwife back in chapter 28-29 before when i came back to the game, and that comp is mega cycling burst, like it more than the rh delay Crown-Naga

now that comp is super good with rapipi into dwife

and now with GRave

Grave-Crown-B3-Rh-Rapipi also good

no burst gen problem

RH is a b3 here

this comp 2 mg feed into grave, both pierce b3 ate grave buff (and they happen to be best high deficit carries)
b2 grave personal pierce support enable some other b3s
Crown supplement with situational taunt, feed grave, add reload support, situational shield
rapipi feed grave, aoe support, damage = 1/2 hyper carry b3, smooth cdr

[urban comet]

She fits. Just need another B1.

[wintry fox]

Don't do stupid shit and bench Cindy
Red hood is not a replaceable unit in campaign

Also Cindy is mid

[glass hearth]

Yall havent finished campaign yet?

[rancid shore]

thing said same on liter when rh came

[wintry fox]

Fund us sync lvls to go past mc

[graceful moss]

Crown or grave burst here?

[rancid shore]

mostly grave, crown burst is very situational

[graceful moss]

oh, crown just for taunt and passive reload speed buff?

[rancid shore]

yea, and feed grave

[graceful moss]

is this better than crown naga in general or just with 2 pierce b3 only?

[marble swan]

depend, on core Naga gives the biggest dmg you can even imagine

[vale tide]

rapi on kraken is new meta

i reached my new record, just need a little more investement to reach stage 8

[hasty portal]

your sbs is not very good right?

[steel junco]

Sbs should definitely deal more yes

[hasty portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145814463933579334/1321457502667276359/image.png?ex=677bcf34&is=677a7db4&hm=1fd213da63f6ae3d57beace43d9dd4dfbc7980d53b141f37d35aaafe52f4656f&

here is mine before rapi, she deals about 400m but still only 3 atk

[vale tide]

not good?

[hasty portal]

mine still misses 1 atk and cs, both first line

[vale tide]

:/

[hasty portal]

private

but yeah, mine is quite strong

[vale tide]

cool site

my rolls are cooked for sbs though

[hasty portal]

also keep in mind that I am only 345

[vale tide]

rerolled this like 20 times

its cursed

[vale tide]

minor upgrades

CS is gone though

[pallid crown]

[smoky condor]

lol, lmao even

[pallid crown]

Use Xmaiden as burst gen

[heavy wharf]

https://nikke.ciu-app.com/ this one i think

[marble swan]

Use 2nd Goat, Phantom

[glass hearth]

Shud have crown slot 1

[vale tide]

CP padding

[vale tide]

you right

[steel junco]

dude.. Rapipi's damage is almost on part with my RH at LB0 10/7/9

against ultra

is my RH so shit or is rapipi that good?

[indigo plaza]

ultra AI is fucked

destructable core, parts are squishy

[rancid shore]

oh the boss doesnt favor rh anymore? deal with it

[steel junco]

care to look at some gameplay and tell me what I need to improve on other than swiping my card for more rocks?

RH only has 50 ele against rapipi's 81% ele

just noticed

[marble swan]

Xlud 68% ele total (cube + base + 2 lines), 23% ATK
Water weak shooting range

• Xlud with one more burst: Rapi deals 82% of Xlud
• Rapi with one more burst: Rapi deals 85% of Xlud
  No splash dmg

But I guess she deals around 75% of Xlud on neutral, so without 68% dmg buff from Ele, Xlud loses to her very hard

[rancid shore]

she feels equal in kraken comparing to xlud

[pliant phoenix]

Does it go up to SSS rating for 116% ele dmg?

[vale tide]

no just S

[rancid shore]

13TH attempt

121 total rocks gone now (39 of which went for 13th attempt 3rd line)
tmr enough custom lock to go for last ammo line

[pallid crown]

3 days of no progression for me

[hasty portal]

same, only missing 1 last line 1 atk stat

6×3 rerolls so far

[vital tangle]

@rancid shore there’s some progress .. I guess

[rancid shore]

[vital tangle]

Yea classic

[rancid shore]

like for my piece, if u say settle with 3 ammo

i only have 140% currently

[vital tangle]

People say I should reroll helm completely

Even tho third line is max ammo

[rancid shore]

yes

[vital tangle]

True or false?

[rancid shore]

its cheaper to reroll completely

my case was just because they are both blue, so i was like "eventually i will roll this girl up, might as well risk 3.6%"

[vital tangle]

I feel like I’m in a wasteland

Out of custom locks

And 2 out of 3 gears need 3 rock reroll

[rancid shore]

just keep the boots intact for now

[vital tangle]

Chest is full reroll or 3 rock reroll?

By full reroll i mean give up max ammo 3

[rancid shore]

Vest is softlock atk and reroll ed

3rock

[vital tangle]

Atk is hard lock

I can soft lock max ammo

[rancid shore]

yes i mean soft ammo

its almost there why throwing away ammo

[vital tangle]

That one gonna be fun

[rancid shore]

[vital tangle]

Like fr im out of custom locks

[rancid shore]

Visor has most juice

[vital tangle]

Guess I’ll have to go saving mode for a week or two

And do 1 rock reroll on visor

[rancid shore]

what

Visor soft ammo reroll 2 rocks

greedy

[vital tangle]

Too much soft locks I’m out of them

[rancid shore]

bottlenecked by time

[minor quest]

I've hardly used them much since I still have some Nikkes left to OL.

Yeah

[nova wind]

no atk

[mighty lodge]

is full burst day over?

[hasty portal]

1 more reset

[hasty portal]

fml 100 gold mats down the drain and still no super success

[abstract knot]

Tbh I would lose it at phase 14

The worst rng I got was using some SSR mat kits and didn't get a super until mid phase 13

[shell willow]

@urban comet
Put one cons on rrh
Due to being mg, she has lowest cp

[grave mist]

@rancid shore no good is it?

[rancid shore]

take the new one

change

[grave mist]

Alrighty 👍

Hey I got it! Soft lock it and roll with it

[rancid shore]

[steel junco]

Hahaha

yeah just reroll values now, those are really low

[grave mist]

Yeah those are very low lol

[grave mist]

Whats the plan now? Do I move to the 2nd piece?

[rancid shore]

i dont rmb how things look like brah

[grave mist]

rmb?

[rancid shore]

i dont remember

its like from last year

[rancid shore]

yes

if you get 2 rocks, you reroll the boots values up (atk/ed)
if you get 3 rocks, reroll for Ammo 2nd line on Vest

the arm is scary

i would actually unlock both of those line and reroll with 1 rock, the chance to roll the last line is 3.6% per 3 rock reroll

[grave mist]

Okay unlock everything on the arm for a reset and hope for Ammo, Ele, Attack on the 3rd line

[rancid shore]

ye or like a black blue at second sth

still more juice than locking low rolls and gamble for worst % here

[grave mist]

Alright I unlocked for the arm. So do I shift that as my 2nd priority?

[rancid shore]

yea

[grave mist]

Alright noted

[steel junco]

Surely the game will bless me with a blue MG doll during SR right?

never going to experience the SR0 PTSD again

I always used the ones I have for doll mats

Maybe it is time to stop doing it and have at least 1 of each before deciding to do it again

[main zodiac]

...yes

[wintry fox]

Did you see new Laplace propaganda

[heavy wharf]

what propaganda ?

[wintry fox]

#1245677309017718796

[heavy wharf]

anyway

do the sticky grenade receive any bonus from charge damage ?

[wintry fox]

I don't think so

Interesting question tho

Cuz it's an SR type

[violet dagger]

No

[rancid shore]

maybe:
rapipi peak 1b4 1b5 as b1
asuka 1b6-1b7
alice 3b-3b2
the first one shino youtube
the second one bili clears at 2:31s

[silver cradle]

Sr15 doll done

[royal berry]

Alice 3B

[royal berry]

Do you think using Grave will be better than Naga here?

[mossy solstice]

Grave RapiRH Rei.A Asuka Mod
Grave RapiRH Crown Asuka Alice

^other possible comps
but no stage9 runs seen yet

Grave is useless off-burst, so not on flex spot like Naga

[vital tangle]

There are tho?

shino did stage 9 on YouTube

And I’m sure there are bilibili videos with clears

[mossy solstice]

did he use Grave?

[vital tangle]

Not grave

[mossy solstice]

???

[vital tangle]

Oh you meant stage9 with grave?

[mossy solstice]

I said other possible comps
of course the meta comp with Crown would've seen stage9 clears

[vital tangle]

On paper grave Alice asuka rapirh crown should perform better than crown naga

But will require a bit more malding

[mossy solstice]

why would it
weakness damage is bloated with Grave Crown and Asuka herself

[vital tangle]

Mostly due to no healing. Alice and asuka have self sustain but grave doesn’t and crown have to time the nuke at phase 2 start

[mossy solstice]

I was asking why this team would outperform Crown team

[vital tangle]

Grave personal dps

And asuka compensates naga to some extent with the core dmg buffs

A decently built grave does 800m+

• the pierce dmg bonus on asuka and Alice

[hasty portal]

grave is in the unique situation where crit dmg has basically the same effect as elemental dmg on her as well

[mossy solstice]

boils down to
Naga core damage buffing both B3
vs Grave personal damage

[wintry fox]

xd

[vital tangle]

Add in the pierce dmg bonus on grave too. It does compensate the lower core dmg buff

Both Alice and asuka have pierce

[mossy solstice]

ik
it's just the same atk dmg buff

Asuka already has a lot of it

[vital tangle]

Alice does benefit tho and she’s your main dps here

[mossy solstice]

that's why I said this

would she benefit more from already bloating ATK DMG
or core dmg

[vital tangle]

Oh also forgot grave burst gen bonus practically increasing FB uptime since you have double MG in that team

[mossy solstice]

I guess Grave does give +3 max ammo
so that's something

I'm not sure if Alice would benefit more from Grave rather than Naga
and Asuka barely benefits
it's down to how built Grave is

[vital tangle]

Only way to find out is if someone tests it

I guess that will happen soon

People do the safe approach with crown naga to get their borders but I’m sure they will start experimenting soon enough

[mossy solstice]

I'm just gonna say
the best team imo already has plenty of clears
still don't see Grave
I doubt whales didn't already have invested in her

another thing
RapiRH does not benefit from the pierce part

[vital tangle]

Actually

The first known indivilia clear is with grave

I just remembered that

[mossy solstice]

I've been proven wrong

what are the builds

[vital tangle]

No idea

And comparing the 2:31 run with this one

This one has higher cp on both carries

So either 2:31 run has better Alice manual (macro ) or crown naga > grave crown

But can’t really confirm until the same person tries both

[mossy solstice]

from a theoretical standpoint
I don't see how Crown Naga wouldn't be superior

we'd need a dmg taken flex option to kick Naga off meta for Indivilia at this point

[hasty portal]

what if you run grave + crown like in coop

oh wait this person did run the 2

[heavy wharf]

i'm still unsure about rerolling piece 1 or rerolling value now

[glass hearth]

wdym

reset attribute on piece 1 right now? dont do that

[heavy wharf]

get a good line 1 on piece 1, or forget it and start rerolling values

[glass hearth]

find attack first then reset attribute

tier 11-15 is 1% chance each, i.e., 5%

when you have 3 lines of att ele and max ammo

[heavy wharf]

cuz the value on pieces 1 to 3 are super low

[glass hearth]

u have 3 chances to hit that 5%

this is assuming u got temporary locks

[heavy wharf]

still 300 left so it's ok

[glass hearth]

if u wanna burger flip reset attributes rn, do it to piece 3

then post pic

[violet dagger]

Crit dmg on grave isn't the same effect as ele

Ele is still much better

[heavy wharf]

i guess i'm chiling for now and wait till SR challenge mode open then start rolling

[glass hearth]

roll now u know u want to

[violet dagger]

Crit dmg is both lower in actual line value and diluted anywhere from at least a starting multiplier of 2 to 2.3 to 3 to 3.3

[heavy wharf]

no rock brother

that 1st piece took me 30 rocks

[glass hearth]

$55 for 15 rocks in cash shop

[heavy wharf]

never got ele line on it

till now

[stray lance]

Austin buy for me please

[violet dagger]

While ele starts basically at 1.1+cube which is 0.1272-0.19something

[stray lance]

[glass hearth]

out of money

[violet dagger]

So at most ele is diluted to less than 1.3

[stray lance]

Liar

In previous life i took a knife stab for u

In this life u must be grateful

[glass hearth]

[marble swan]

and I took

a pill in Ibiza

to show Avicii I was cool

[heavy wharf]

Modernia who ?

[mossy solstice]

what a throwback

[vital tangle]

And when I finally got sober I felt 10 years older but fuck it it was something to do

[marble swan]

[pallid crown]

A 2022 niche unit, not used for low clears top players

Let's say sadly you can't use rapib3+rhb1+Naga core buff

I like more rapi aoe than sbs one

SBS feels slower

[fading linden]

I've been solely using Rapi as a B1, but is she better as a B3 unit instead?

Thank you, that's all I was after

[violet dagger]

Dunno if i agree with that

Think RapiB1 is specifically being pumped up by Crown interaction

Then there's some serious dogwater DPS in other elements

Particularly water

And in electric you don't get much for swapping out Vol for D

The floor for DPS in most elements seems too low rn

[heavy wharf]

because it's dogWATER, get it ?

[violet dagger]

So in a 5 team set I'd guess she'd be B3 in like 4 or 5 elements

In a 1 team max damage set she's def B1 because you're just trying to cram as many characters into the team as possible

[heavy wharf]

well that is a given for now that Rapipi would be better as a b3

as you said the floor is too damn low

we can't even have 2 decent ele favored team for water weak

in a raid context

ofc

and let's not talk about wind weak

[violet dagger]

All the water dps are basically trash compared to the DPS of other elements

[heavy wharf]

wind has 1 very good and that's it

[violet dagger]

Every element now has at least 1 main juicer

[heavy wharf]

not water no

[violet dagger]

Water has no one, XLud is a sub dps

[heavy wharf]

i agree that water still need that Hypercarry unit

[mossy solstice]

Rapi: Red Hood Megathread, everyone

[hasty portal]

I have been using her to push hm as the b1

did 2 chapters in the last 2 days

[heavy wharf]

she is very good in campaign

because you can run her with RH as dual b1

rapi off burst, rh main burst to kill stage target

only problem is when stage require sustain

triple bronchus

[violet dagger]

Can be either b1 or b3 in union raid as well, contextual to elements

1 team content is likely B1 due to just how tight the roster is

Except in non multi hit iron element

P sure she is b3 in that situation

Bc rh and sw underperform in that context

[hasty portal]

also depends on the elements the enemys are weak to

[violet dagger]

I already laid out the context

Non multihit iron is the clearly favorable situation

Fire is fine bc Alice still does great even without multihit

[hasty portal]

I run this team for pwr padding, if I could I would run her as b3 since she has over 90% ele

[violet dagger]

RH really underperforms when you take away core and multi hitting

[stray lance]

No

Let Water be dogWater

I want a Pilgrim supporter in 2.5

[heavy wharf]

nah water will have a hypercarry MG unit in half anni

[mossy solstice]

MirandaTr + Pilgrim B2 CDR + SW

BELIEVE IT

[heavy wharf]

just to fuck you and your rock stash

[wintry fox]

xd

[pallid crown]

Guys

Water only needs

A good dps

If possible RL or SR

[gritty token]

Water needs either:

• two good RL DPS for B1CDR/Rem/B3/B3/Emilia
• A good dps who either copies an ally's stack count or an ally's final ATK to justify XGuillo's existence.
• A good B3 who deals almost all their damage within 3 seconds of full burst (e.g. SW/Maxwell) to justify Summer Mary's existence

In summary, it's dog shit because it's limited units are all super niche.... With no partner for that niche.

Rem, XGuillo, Smary, could all theoretically be meta, but have super high requirements for team mates

[mighty lodge]

is here eden 2 now?

[gritty token]

Always has been

🔫 🧑‍🚀

With a touch more focus on theorycrafting and meta than eden has

[pallid crown]

No pls

[indigo plaza]

if this is eden 2, it will suffer the same fate as eden in the end

[slim olive]

this is still Rapi: Red Hood thread. keep it on topics or go somewhere else.

[pallid crown]

Has anyone here cleared stage 9 MC with her as B1?

[rancid shore]

If only her attachment doesnt trigger the slipper accidentally too many times lol, she can clear with ease, just rng

[pallid crown]

In my case her attachment can destroy the last 2 slippers

[rancid shore]

I tried hover over it

[pallid crown]

but yeah she's a mess during first and second one

[marble swan]

Water needs Eve

[rancid shore]

Very everelevant to the thread

[marble swan]

I mean it

Eve collab will be water

[rancid shore]

Crown naga is lesser pick during this coop, Grave Crown new pair

[pallid crown]

90 fps when?

I wanna see those MG destroying some PCs

[rancid shore]

Naga might give the piercer superior core damage, but i think w new meta, support dps is compensating for it, making Grave not as bad comparing to Naga but maybe better

[pallid crown]

XD

[mossy solstice]

phase2 was a third of the fight
makes sense that Naga wouldn't be meta for Alexander

[rancid shore]

Same for alice

[pallid crown]

I remember when Snake ran X4 mg in P1 and his laptop dropped at 10 fps

[rancid shore]

The question raised during coop is, do we have a stacked grave to pierce head core for extra damage, built alice is always available to use

[wintry fox]

40

[pallid crown]

Oh well 40 isn't that bad

[wintry fox]

It is

[marble swan]

is not

I used to play Nikke on my huawei mate 20 Pro

[wintry fox]

I used to play on my phone at 20-30 fps

[marble swan]

well then we had same experience

[wintry fox]

These people will never know 20fps modernia in ch18/19/20

[pallid crown]

So guys, rapi can stage9, indivilia, ultra, kraken and Harvester

4/5 gg

[wintry fox]

MC too

[pallid crown]

5/5 snake cleared MC with rapi

[wintry fox]

Not me

[pallid crown]

[wintry fox]

But I know you can

[pallid crown]

[wintry fox]

But the hoe will keep dying

A lot

So you need proper rng

[pallid crown]

Yeah it's possible with sanis ein naga comp

I can stage 7 cuz mine are kek

[wintry fox]

Crown Cindy ein s.anis rrh

[pallid crown]

Yeah

Rapi the goat

Like her master

[rancid shore]

U guys saw in new bili clear Rapi deal half of alice damage as b1?

Was lying only 1/3 alice

[pallid crown]

People is still building her

Wait for those 110+ ele and 50+ atk core7

Sadly you can't rush a character, maybe if you hoar 300 rocks it's possible

[heavy wharf]

Rapipi is a good investment anyway

worth every rock

[pallid crown]

yeah double element and broken B1 also

[rancid shore]

She raised the standard now, dont have to invest into anything but next hyper carry overspec

[hasty portal]

man rapi is strong, my pwr is 580k so about -45%

[pallid crown]

Yeah NGL gonna be hard to invest in niche units now

I'll pull but not invest on them

[heavy wharf]

boss is fingers so it's expected

[pallid crown]

No double burst and element, skip

[heavy wharf]

Finger gotta be the most useless boss in this game tbh

[hasty portal]

yeah but even getting here was hard

[heavy wharf]

yeah i guess rapipi really did work on normal stages

[hasty portal]

25-18 was the biggest hurdle

took me half an hour till I got a run where I could kill the artillery units fast enough

[vital tangle]

I remember I did ultra 26 hard in like 20 seconds

But my rh was already high investment by then

[pallid crown]

Smh whale flexing

[hasty portal]

I am no whale, only dolphin

[heavy wharf]

25-18 was a really bullshit stage

i got kinda lucky with it

[hasty portal]

the whale in my pve server is 381, I am only 348

[hasty portal]

yeah so did I, my rh only has 50% ele so the dmg is lacking

[pallid crown]

Not you

[hasty portal]

then who is flexxing?

[marble swan]

[steel junco]

Ch26 should be so much easy with rapipi

[hasty portal]

yeah but I am approachimg -50% pwr with a rh thats mid

I did 26-1 without much issue so I am lvl 387 but I did 3 chapters in 3 days now, I don't feel like continuing lol

[steel junco]

Most of CH26 is easy except for 26-17

[hasty portal]

I heard

I do have this team for pwr padding

[steel junco]

You almost have the same CP I have at CH29H

[sly bane]

"meine kraft"

[hasty portal]

yeah but you can run naga

[steel junco]

Oh my Naga isn't low cp by any mean

[hasty portal]

my cindy does nothing for the team other then pwr padding

but mine is, I lose 30k pwr

and she is c7

[pallid crown]

Double sniper strategy?

ugh I stopped that strategy when I started to use elemental niche units hehe

[steel junco]

RH B1

How can I freaking deny that

[hasty portal]

yeah rh b1 is busted

[pallid crown]

in that screen only alice and rh can be b3

[hasty portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145814463933579334/1325822749809049651/Screenshot_2025-01-06_144550.png?ex=677d3028&is=677bdea8&hm=9de56d39097d49213db23033d981140ac5b4a6aa56b4f0688761509bbbcce509&

[steel junco]

I start most of the battles with RH B1 > Alice here

And leave a mob alive for when the boss shows up and go Rh B1 > Alice again

Has been working flawlessly so far

[pallid crown]

[steel junco]

Dude I am at 40% deficit

[hasty portal]

just burst with rapi so she gets crowns buff

[pallid crown]

weird comp ngl I'm in fire stages too and I'm bursting with asuka and alice

yeah the strategy leaving 1 mob alive works after second burst normally, especially on those scenarios "wall" where you need more than 3 burst

than wait for rh burst again+alice

I haven't tried rapihood off burst

[steel junco]

My Asuka is ass, so cannot really use her

[vale tide]

stage 8 reached

[wintry fox]

Why is that a bad thing

[rancid shore]

Wdym no benefit u get less cp penalty

Ok let me roll all ed away when i start a new chapter with different element

[hasty portal]

good thing the next 4 stages or so are either weak to fire or iron for me

[violet dagger]

he's saying you can't flex as much if you put rapi in your team

[pallid crown]

in global bald lads put the units out of synchro

[hasty portal]

good thing I am not here to flex, I just want to push as far as I can to level as fast as I can to get into a top union

[stiff tapir]

the only way you can outpace existing players is to outspend them

[pallid crown]

funny thing about chapter 32 the lowest clears were double sniper rh+alice

this comp the whole chapter 49% deficit

[hasty portal]

I only need to be strong enough to reliably clear the wave 1 enemys in the new hm ur

I also gain about 20 lvl per month currently

[stiff tapir]

can he beat the boss with that? I got damage gated since my alice isnt strong enough to one shot the boss part without having that b3 burst

[pallid crown]

my max balding session was 45% deficit

then I didnt try again xd

bro

naga lvl 1

[sour cave]

he still needed to break CC in chap 31

to get low cp clear in ch 32

[pallid crown]

his rh and alice are prolly 100+ ele

[wintry fox]

You want to do the thing, there is a way to do the thing, but then you think the way is cringe

Makes no sense

Doing it with a lvl1 unit is by far a flex

Imo it is pretty cool

What

I mean actually that's something that should be done for normal campaign

But your reasoning for it is bad

The current campaign system is goated

Doing it with sync lvl1 units is very cool

[pallid crown]

I'm around that lvl synchro and my rh and alice are like -20k cp each

he kick out naga of synchro and started to clear chapter 32 with 49% cp deficit

[wintry fox]

Is that nalaniko?

[pallid crown]

yeah him

[wintry fox]

The goat

No one comes close

You don't post vods

[pallid crown]

the wombat

[wintry fox]

He doesn't need vods to prove his greatness

Texas is yanni confirmed

Bro you have no haters

[pallid crown]

oh this is basically a kind of overclock xd

[wintry fox]

Except if someone got mad at you for deleting your messages

RRH is good for campaign
More CP isn't bad

That's my take

Is she SSS tier

I need the Texas seal of approval

[pallid crown]

so basically texas guy want a new gamemode where only manual skills matters

[wintry fox]

Asuka didn't get the seal

[pallid crown]

[wintry fox]

Yeah, definitely

Ratio 25 and never worry about that shit ever again

[pallid crown]

I saw some whales flexing overclock ratio 50 with cindy lvl 1

[pallid crown]

1-0 inter winning btw

[wintry fox]

No serie A talk in rrh thread

To #general-chat you go

[pallid crown]

k

k

[pallid crown]

later when you have time, can you make a video how this comp works?

I can't see how only one alice burst at the beginning can beat everything till mini boss

[steel junco]

You burst with RH

[wintry fox]

Rh is b3 dumbass

[pallid crown]

fuck y'all

[steel junco]

HAHAHAHA

[pallid crown]

[steel junco]

Obviously for the 2nd rotation I go Rapipi > RH B3

[wintry fox]

What

[pallid crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245939636702810225/1296340073629093959/miharareaction.gif

[steel junco]

I just said I start the battle with RH B1 > Alice

[wintry fox]

Oh yeah nvm I read it wrong

[pallid crown]

imma try later

im using shitsuka

really good in campaign

[steel junco]

I'd probably use Asuka Alice RH B1 if my Asuka was invested

But rapipi is doing a really good job at giving me CDR

[pallid crown]

today

black line+ good luck

after 5 months

1 fucking black line

[abstract knot]

I'll take it for now, since I need ele

[pallid crown]

yeah SR asap

[high lotus]

what are the ammo % goals for rapi again

is 3x60% ammo fine

or do I want to reach 200% ammo

[rancid shore]

High ammo only enable her to be flexible without crown

200% for her to shoot 2 burst continuously i believe

With mg comp with grave

Realistically u barely use her without crown

[glass hearth]

ideally just want to be above 900 ammo i think

at least 15 seconds of shooting

[mighty lodge]

yea that's like 180%

[karmic night]

Ammo is useless.
If you play at 1 fps, you never have to reload for the entire battle.

Even with 0 ammo rolls

[glass hearth]

[hasty portal]

10×3 rocks and still no first line atk

[high lotus]

ok so 180% is a fine goal?

that's doable

means I only got 2 pieces to fix

at that ammo, does she still use resil with crown

my resil is like 3 lvls higher than bastion

I'm not gonna be manually reloading her offburst unless malding in sr

[karmic night]

Resil is always better with reload spd buffer so you can ignore mg windup

[high lotus]

she doesn't ignore it too much

only by a bit

[karmic night]

On auto?

[high lotus]

hmm? just holding left click

she skips the very start of it, but nowhere near as much skip as mod, since longer reload time

so I felt like it's not that impactful

[karmic night]

Crown and most mg have the same reload spd too 2.5s

[sour cave]

isnt crown going to be with Alice and Asuka on fire weak SR anyway so theres a reason to get more ammo lines? I guess maybe depends on the units and chair

[high lotus]

yeah I'm wondering about that too

my alice sucks

[violet dagger]

dick measuring contest until the next OP unit makes it all pointless

[glass hearth]

i dont think ive ever looked at a low CP clear in campaign and thought to myself: wow this guy is cool

[rancid shore]

They dont always have Crown, gotta give yourself room to be flexible with others

[pallid crown]

Alice against modernia even with ele advantage is not the best thing

So prolly P1 is rrh+slaves

[high lotus]

if the parts respawn fast enough rapipi prob goes with crown team yeah

alice pierce probably only lets you pierce 1 part + body

[pallid crown]

Alice+grave

99%

[high lotus]

mod might not even have perm core

[pallid crown]

Yeah but pierce DMG buff

[sour cave]

ah, I forgot no perma core, then yeah Alice likely goes with Grave

[pallid crown]

Rhb1 or helping p5

Depends in how fast we need to break core

[fluid elbow]

the rocks i sacrificed for this

[pallid crown]

I want that 26%

[fluid elbow]

no not that one >:(

TAKE THIS ONE

[pallid crown]

Sending mod mail asking for ban

[hasty portal]

I will also send one, they are more likely to act if 2 do it

[pallid crown]

[wintry fox]

Eh it's all in good fun in the end

I mean I'm pretty confident that to beat or at least reach nalaniko's records you'd need to hyper focus 6-7 units for around 1 and a half years, he does things very insanely

So if you do put in the effort

It can become unreachable

I doubt a lot of his records get wiped out even after 5-6 years

Like, that bro was -40 sync than the next best guy

Whenever he's like, using those lvl1 units, usually he is still around equal sync or -20 sync

You need some very special powercreep to reach that level

[pallid crown]

49% deficit is wild

[wintry fox]

Ultimately, since like ~55% is the cap after it all becomes 1 damage
Getting someone that invested in campaign is quite hard, considering how crazy this guy was. He made alts to make records he couldn't before due to probably lack of knowledge, and also took back a lot of his records

[pallid crown]

I'll ask him to push my...

No wait I'm almost in MC wall

I need 40 lvl synchro

See you in 6 months

[wintry fox]

We don't need to anymore probably

By next year we should be able to hit the end of hard campaign

[wintry fox]

That's 2.5 months

[pallid crown]

I hope they add more boss content

With new mechanics

They added hidden mechanics for anomaly

Ultra and the 26 seconds shit, harvester and the way to skip qte shit

[violet dagger]

that's a different kind of weird

[pallid crown]

MC is MC

[wintry fox]

That's what I'm trying to say

[pallid crown]

now with all the new electric units MC is a joke

[wintry fox]

It's kinda impossible for any new player

[violet dagger]

which is raising an acc specifically to reduce CP inflation to claim getting a best record on lowest CP

that part is what stands out as weird to me

[wintry fox]

Unless they make an alt

[wintry fox]

My best bet is he just loved campaign

I can understand it cuz I also a lot of times wished to do stuff like that (around ch12H - ch14H), but obviously I didn't have it in me to follow through with it

[violet dagger]

my main gripe is when it delves into the realm of intentionally griefing away lines

[rancid shore]

No he loves lowest clear

[violet dagger]

like for example what texas said

about rolling away your element when it's not relevant to the stage

[wintry fox]

I mean you can 100% bet nalaniko does it

[wintry fox]

This change was much more recent, but maybe we can confirm it by checking if his DPS vary in cp across chapters

I can assure you that he held back dupes on supports to lower his cp

[high lotus]

isn't 50% the cap

as in, it doesn't let you do the fight

[wintry fox]

55

[wintry fox]

Iirc

[violet dagger]

yeah my point is that this is just a weirdge thing to do

it's like ripping off your toes to claim a bigger disadvantage in a marathon

[high lotus]

yeah that's a bit insane, gonna brick your account if you try to follow that

how well does he do in SR

[wintry fox]

For a while we just thought he was a cheater bro lmfao
But as it went on it just made too much sense

[violet dagger]

it's like, "yeah I guess you do have the lowest clear"

"but also you have no toes"

[wintry fox]

He got top 20 in fire SR I think

[high lotus]

oh ig with alice yeah

[wintry fox]

Will have to check really but I have for sure seen him in SR top 50

[pallid crown]

Nanaliko? I didn't check

[high lotus]

I assume his rh is low cp with no ele?

at least for non-iron weak

[pallid crown]

No lol

His Rh has 215cp in synchro 447

[wintry fox]

Don't know, will have to compare his CP across chapters but any unit that can deal mega DPS is mega invested

[pallid crown]

Mine has 198 synchro 443

[high lotus]

hmm

[pallid crown]

95 ele 36 atk

[high lotus]

then at least he doesn't go that insane on removing ele lines and stuff

[wintry fox]

We have to see how much he invests in rrh

[pallid crown]

He prolly feed his Rh till 50 atk

[wintry fox]

Union Raid

Or well

It used to be

[violet dagger]

now that I think about it, at least old campaign CP clears actually made sense before lines were included in your CP

[high lotus]

comparing lowest clears is quite useless for me now, can only really go by lowest monthly, which isn't accurate

[violet dagger]

try to have the best acc possible instead of trying to have some weird minmax where you get rid of lines that don't help you specifically in this one stage

[high lotus]

since if I go lowest by all time it's all ppl that did it before ol lines cp

[violet dagger]

[wintry fox]

Yeah this change was when I popped boxes

I was holding out to get some low clears myself
I actually managed to do it on ch26 by using lvl1 Shelm

Got like 5th lowest clear

[high lotus]

if you have the best acc possible you'll be whaling quite a lot (esp for union raid now), so just auto all of campaign

[wintry fox]

Basically, with this new change you REALLY have to be into it

[rancid shore]

I also tried to lowball when i just came back, but then i realize im such a donkey and i stopped

[wintry fox]

"why am I doing this?" Moment

[violet dagger]

no if you're playing for the best acc possible within your means, you just try your best to beat the stages you can beat whenever you can

[high lotus]

well best acc possible now also means highest sync possible