[Rapi: Red Hood] New Unit Megathread

[urban comet]

[stray lance]

That makes more flexible

[high lotus]

if dying doesn't matter then that wording addition is weird, why would activating after full burst matter unless it's to work with rh

[heavy wharf]

both has restriction in their own right

[high lotus]

if it activates after full burst to account for dying, then that would make sense

[urban comet]

No

[alpine hatch]

Probably for working with RH

[urban comet]

If your B1 dies, she becomes B1

[alpine hatch]

Dead units are still present in the team

No

That's not how that works

Blanc doesn't turn 60s CD when Noir dies

[grand rover]

That would be a neat bug tho.

[heavy wharf]

it's all determine when battle start

[urban comet]

Just imagine u play campaign

[high lotus]

problem is rapi also says at end of full burst, so it's designed to update for something

[urban comet]

Your RH dies

She becomes ur B1

[high lotus]

it's either b1 dying or with rh

[urban comet]

[heavy wharf]

probably wont happen

[urban comet]

So RH Crown Asuka Alice Rapi comp, assuming Rapi is off burst B3 possible

Then if RH dies u get to burst once more

[high lotus]

working with what rh bursts as in that chain would still mean rh has to be something at start of fight

[urban comet]

What a very edge case

[rancid shore]

ok same (since u fix the burst gen into 1 fixed instances for both)

[alpine hatch]

That's still element neutral, right?

[urban comet]

Can Rapi break electric shield tho

[heavy wharf]

guess

[alpine hatch]

Cuz if that's element neutral, then Grave is far superior to Crown in that setup

[alpine hatch]

Shouldn't be able to

[high lotus]

considering that the sorting system in the game considers rh as b1+b2+b3 at the same time... I feel like the simple answer is that rapi is always b3 with rh in the team

[alpine hatch]

It's not elemental conversion

[urban comet]

Cus if she cant she will be somewhat bricked against Ultra

[high lotus]

which is gonna be boring, but whatever

[alpine hatch]

It's applying strong element damage

[urban comet]

I think her damage will offset it tho

[heavy wharf]

she won't, cuz it's only a damage buff, not element conversion

[alpine hatch]

It's not really an issue since we run tons of iron units vs Ultra

Breaking shields isn't a concern

[frail marsh]

fixes to 100% core uptime
and alice to compare

[alpine hatch]

[rancid shore]

[high lotus]

midlice?

[alpine hatch]

Grave on neutral

[frail marsh]

that's rapipi solo damage

[urban comet]

Why so Rapipi biased

[alpine hatch]

oh

[frail marsh]

not team damage

[alpine hatch]

That's just Rapi

[urban comet]

Stop using Alice SBS

Do Asuka Alice

[polar breach]

[frail marsh]

ill sleep

its a standard comparison bitch

[urban comet]

Meh

[heavy wharf]

what about total overall team dmg

[urban comet]

[urban comet]

Alice better than Rapipi if paired with Grave fosho

[stray lance]

Merry Xmas

[frail marsh]

im not calcing 4 more units at 4 am

[urban comet]

Its 26 december

[heavy wharf]

fair enough

but i think it's also important to consider the total dmg

[stray lance]

Still Xmas

[frail marsh]

later maybe

[heavy wharf]

funneling dmg team gonna be very different, stuff like that

[grand rover]

Thanks for your calcs

[alpine hatch]

Indeed, always greatly appreciated

[heavy wharf]

it was a good indication nonetheless

[urban comet]

Problem is

[frail marsh]

to clarify all the dmg i posted so far is single damage not team

[urban comet]

Testing in game better than complex stuff on paper

[rancid shore]

any new cook for Ultra too? feeling
Grave-Rapipi-RH-Liter-Crown together?

oh man

[grand rover]

Spreadsheets is life

[frail marsh]

yeah but its 7 days away

[heavy wharf]

from now till 1st of Jan you can only do spreadsheet

[frail marsh]

we got nothing to do till then

LOL

this is bored gatcha players

[urban comet]

[high lotus]

oh wait rapi means I don't have to build maxwell or shitwhite for ultra

[grand rover]

We are just dreaming for now

[urban comet]

Not tested yet

[heavy wharf]

also, under shooting range condition, result would be rather similar

[urban comet]

May not even reach S4 in time

Lmao

[high lotus]

if she does more dmg than laplace in ultra that's good enough for me

[heavy wharf]

Laplace is an interesting bar

[urban comet]

If she allows to reach S4 in time

Then sure

[high lotus]

actually my highest bar considering 7/4/4 no ol maxwell and no invest snowwhite

using alice or bscar there is almost same dmg

[urban comet]

Can start with RH Grave RH, Liter Crown Rapi

Who knows

S4

But need to break barrier asap

[brazen coral]

[frail marsh]

idk
piercing and overkilling part is kinda big

[rancid shore]

[frail marsh]

Rapipi doesnt have that

[brazen coral]

Snow White still Ultra MVP

Fight me

[frail marsh]

maxwell also buff RH

[brazen coral]

[frail marsh]

ok

[high lotus]

I ain't building either of those bozos both are niche af in solo raid, rather not build them ever

[brazen coral]

[high lotus]

maxwell should be happy her s1 is even lvl 7

[marble swan]

Rapipi > both

[frail marsh]

fight my maxwell

[marble swan]

[brazen coral]

Gimme 80 rocks

[frail marsh]

[brazen coral]

I have the capacity to go SR15 Maxwell alr

Gimme rocks

I'll make her cry crit

[urban comet]

RH Crown Maxwell => RH Crown Rapi might reach it tho, with Liter.

[grand rover]

Liter who?

[stray lance]

Drill can explode and core hit

[urban comet]

Im not gonna fall for that

[stray lance]

But her bullet wont until phase 2

[frail marsh]

explosion damage is tiny

and it doesnt overkill parts

[stray lance]

I guess have to try

[brazen coral]

I'll let u pros cook

Too lazy for this

[frail marsh]

u cleared Ultra?

[brazen coral]

Not with RH - MW

Same old Snow

[frail marsh]

snowwhite hard to play

[rancid shore]

if not already cleared ultra cuz investment on sub dps

this is a nice alt to consider

[brazen coral]

It feels nice to use Yulha with Snow

Regardless of crit

But in the end, I'm not a Snow enjoyer

That title belongs to a certain someone

[frail marsh]

[brazen coral]

[rancid shore]

man this is really boring isnt it, gotta wait 5 more days while cooking on air and cope

[urban comet]

Someone that starts with S?

[frail marsh]

we really had to wait 5 days just to know if her grenade hit core or not

[rancid shore]

midke

[brazen coral]

The man who goes all in on Snow

I'll be pleased if Rapi can do this much

JP got it even better result than me

[heavy wharf]

yeah 200k SW at 400

i know enough

[brazen coral]

Still worse than some Snow enjoyer

Especially JP Snow enjoyers

They are the real simps

[grand rover]

If enjoying snow is wrong I don't want to be right

[brazen coral]

@frail marsh waiting for your MW Solo kill Ultra

[alpine hatch]

Maxwell niche is a weird claim

[atomic dawn]

Agency FB

[alpine hatch]

Ignoring Crystal Chamber, held her place in top 10 most used B3s for 11 solo raids

Only recently has she started for fall off hard

not as bad as Privaty tho

[brazen coral]

Wait for MW fav item

[small meteor]

Miranda favorite, sw might just be back

[brazen coral]

[wintry fox]

Can't believe we get to beat 2 AI bosses more easily

At the cost of 1 unit

[pallid crown]

You know what

Modernia has 4 parts, A2 is back

[rancid shore]

damn who would have thought

[marble swan]

4 parts?

Laplace, Emilia and A2 da goat

[wintry fox]

We should do this but for (tentative name)

[karmic night]

Can just datamine weapon stats, and see if it has a core hit multi i guess.

[pallid crown]

Yeah dataminers can do that

[karmic night]

Vesti burst skill can core hit too

[wintry fox]

@shell willow so the list is

• Favorite item skills
• rapirh base weapon info
• rapirh alt weapon info

[brazen coral]

Nice Turkish

[pallid crown]

and it's a separate grenade not like sanis or xlud missile

[brazen coral]

[pallid crown]

Even change rrh weapon

[brazen coral]

Lud got missile?

[pallid crown]

Nah is like instant dmg

After core hits

[heavy wharf]

i hope Milk got some good treasure upgrade

[wintry fox]

Milk coming out of booba would be good upgrade

[pallid crown]

milked

[brazen coral]

Alr

I'm speedrunning Helm

[pallid crown]

smh whel

Imma buid rrh doll

Cuz more stats

[brazen coral]

Takes 160 to build her anyways

[rancid shore]

pantie line

[heavy wharf]

i suspect we might get a significant treasure upgrade though

[brazen coral]

Just need the skills 1st

[heavy wharf]

one of the 4

[brazen coral]

We'll see tmr

[karmic night]

Why her right leg look like that?

[wintry fox]

All of the old treasure units became usable

[brazen coral]

Definitely getting that wallpaper 1st thing

[wintry fox]

That would be a good start

[forest helm]

cannot beat her no pant design

[wintry fox]

Wait for @heavy wharf skin

[rancid shore]

kinda weird, bug, SU pls fix ahhh my eyes

[wintry fox]

Full nude SSR rapi soon™ pls

[karmic night]

How did they not notice that?

[pallid crown]

Omg this joke

[heavy wharf]

Helm Drake and Milk, who's the last one i forgot

[wintry fox]

Midranda

[heavy wharf]

oh hell no

SW shenanigans

[wintry fox]

SW will rise

[pallid crown]

[heavy wharf]

i actually get pretty lucky with sw, 80% ele with just 3 lines and 30% atk

with 3 pieces

but my hands suck

so she's useless

[grand rover]

[heavy wharf]

i didnt even OL her leg

[pallid crown]

Wait

Actually the poll was for 3 treasures every 6 months

Not 4

[heavy wharf]

yea

[pallid crown]

[heavy wharf]

not like SU is known for consistency or anything

[wintry fox]

Dude

4 is fine

[rancid shore]

^

[wintry fox]

I want more good stories

Just make it a 6 month cycle for 4

[pallid crown]

I want more kits maintenance

[heavy wharf]

they can make more good stories with side story easily

[pallid crown]

I liked Exia story

[wintry fox]

I liked all of them

Especially diesel

[pallid crown]

and Diesel made me sad

[rancid shore]

you will get enough of their favorite kit part, but the main kit is always problem, ask yourself if u already make all treasure for the current one, bet you still have 2-3 lefts to treasure up

[pallid crown]

[heavy wharf]

yeah Diesel was the best no doubt

[wintry fox]

The straight choice is:
4 treasures to sr15 or 4 meta units to sr15

[rancid shore]

yeah

so only 2-3 get to their treasure regardless how many released

[wintry fox]

1 treasure per month on average

You can get 6 easily per cycle

[heavy wharf]

1 treasure per month ?

wtf are you talking about

[pallid crown]

smh lucky people

[wintry fox]

Wdym

[pallid crown]

[alpine hatch]

Resetting dispatches

[pallid crown]

Smh whels

[wintry fox]

obviously I meant with resetting dispatches

[rancid shore]

yes u could wym, its a reasonable timeline

[wintry fox]

Resetting dispatch is feasible for f2p

[alpine hatch]

I reset even on my F2P alt

[wintry fox]

If you stay within line

[alpine hatch]

Just called don't pull garbage units like Flora

[heavy wharf]

because it's your alt

[alpine hatch]

Why does it being an alt make a difference?

[pallid crown]

I stopped after spending all my gems between anni and Xmaiden banners

[alpine hatch]

It's actually stronger than my main in two elements when locked at 400

[pallid crown]

[rancid shore]

and at this point, you already SR15 meta units already, only like SG u might have not
so now with these 4, you can pick like 2-3 if they good and then the rest of mat into 2nd priority teams (like those in SG)

the pressure of early days already gone a bit much

[pallid crown]

My drake core7 bond 30

She's ready

[alpine hatch]

Pressure was only there because they gave us four at once

[pallid crown]

[wintry fox]

We literally made a guide for dispatch since we found out it was f2p friendly

[heavy wharf]

i skipped like all of the first batch

[alpine hatch]

plus no dolls on normal units

[wintry fox]

I use this as a guide

[alpine hatch]

If they'd given us six months of dolls with no treasures, it would've been chill

I'd take gold kit boxes over 30 doll box

[wintry fox]

52% chance to get acceptable roll
48% to get shit roll

[alpine hatch]

Purple boxes are scams tho

[wintry fox]

2 purple give shitton of mats

[rancid shore]

SU you see what happen when u release a unit kit 5 days before their release, people cook off-topic now, release kit right after maintenance ends next time

[heavy wharf]

reroll once per day ?

[pallid crown]

I'm not resetting at least to MLB asuka and rei alt

[wintry fox]

Reroll until all 4 are acceptable at least

[heavy wharf]

that's not friendly to f2p

[pallid crown]

Fund me momo

[frail marsh]

just play casual and press auto button instead of reroll like me

[wintry fox]

I do it this way:

• Dispatch all gems
• dispatch all acceptable
  Reroll
  Repeat until all 4 slots are done

[pallid crown]

You see guys how he fell in top 51

[wintry fox]

It's f2p friendly fs

[rancid shore]

so 4atk 4ed 2-3 ammo and flexbile acceptable cringe slot CritRate/CritDamage?

[frail marsh]

[wintry fox]

4 ammo 4 atk 4 ele prolly non negotiable on this unit

[frail marsh]

3 high ammo is fine

but 4 yeah

[rancid shore]

i would give it a bit flexible on the ammo path

[pallid crown]

Imma try x12

[rancid shore]

too expensive

[heavy wharf]

@wintry fox where's that reroll guide i want a read

[rancid shore]

make RapiRH 10/12 line only

[wintry fox]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/collection-dispatch/

This is kisenix take

Mixed with my take

[frail marsh]

3 high ammo let you reload once every 2 burst
even if u get 1 more you'll reload in the middle of next full burst anyways

[heavy wharf]

oh my god

i was about to ask

[wintry fox]

So it's pretty balanced

[heavy wharf]

if it's Kisenis

[wintry fox]

No, it's good

Dude it's good

[karmic night]

For low invest, i'd settle for (ele + atk + ammo) x 12 black lines

[pallid crown]

The flow chart

[honest river]

Is she doa

[rancid shore]

yeah this sounds very good, what u mean in % combination as high ammo?

like a good 200%?

[wintry fox]

4/4/4 -> 7/7/7 -> 10/10/10

4× Elemental Damage
4× ATK
4× Ammo

[frail marsh]

u need ~ 230% for that

[wintry fox]

That's a nice number

[rancid shore]

2 black ammo and 1 normal

got it too ez

[frail marsh]

alright so just 4 ammo
lel

[wintry fox]

I was just checking

Im pretty sure max ammo is like 85 black

No?

[frail marsh]

yes

[wintry fox]

3 blue lines

[rancid shore]

maybe nice to add 230% ammo with mention of 1 reload per 2 burst here

[wintry fox]

3 High ammo indeed

[wintry fox]

It's a general rule for all mgs

[rancid shore]

ohhh

idk that

[karmic night]

230 with bastion?

[frail marsh]

with bastion ye

[wintry fox]

If you're with crown you don't need it

[frail marsh]

idk about ammo doll

[wintry fox]

With crown 2 ammo is enough

[karmic night]

Ammo doll is like +9%

[rancid shore]

i mean if u get this cringe line setup, u would settle here getting Ed and have to sac ammo anyway, its a QoL line

[frail marsh]

with crown just go for the resilience route probably?

[wintry fox]

Yeah, 100%

You don't need 4 ammo with crown

[frail marsh]

resil + 2 ammo is way easier

[wintry fox]

Yk I'm very interested in your rapi b1 now ever since you've shown it

[frail marsh]

im so hungry

[wintry fox]

That's very very insane damage

For a b1 unit

[frail marsh]

[wintry fox]

I'm hyped for B1 rapi campaign

[frail marsh]

yeah

[alpine hatch]

Need to see skill scaling for determining skill progression

[rancid shore]

ohhh budget indi
Grave-Crown-Liter-Asuka-RapiRh(2ammo) ~~imagine 12 lines Alice here ~~
double b2 Grave Crown viable again, so many options

[wintry fox]

Crown rapi b3 b3 Naga

Seems insane to me

[frail marsh]

it was MG B1 attacker + crown naga asuka buff vs full core ....

even without the kit it should do good damage

[wintry fox]

If we can use rapi b1 and Rh b1 together it will be nuts

Like it'll be insane dude

[frail marsh]

so good

actually

[rancid shore]

actually for most of us, we are in 33-34 or soon to be in

Asuka might be outed

[marble swan]

Midlice

[wintry fox]

:3

[marble swan]

Rap God

so call her Eminem

[wintry fox]

Lmfaooo

[rancid shore]

and the Volley Ball raptures spawn at exact moment your first burst ends, its a design

so if RapiRH aoe can flash that

[rancid shore]

she is super stonk for chapter 33 34

[wintry fox]

Dude she can also nuke boss

2000% nuke on boss

[main zodiac]

What are the crossed out ones?

[frail marsh]

i hope i dont have to deal with that shit again after that

[alpine hatch]

I'm excited to plot the stickies on parts then watch them explode

[rancid shore]

yeah boss doesnt matter now since u are talking about per potential in campaign

[alpine hatch]

[wintry fox]

Ones I don't aim for

[rancid shore]

only SBS and Ein is effectively good agaisnt Volleyball timeline now

RapiRh will be a great addition

to counter that

if she can flash the balls

[frail marsh]

i just beat chap 34 with 75% CP

[pallid crown]

Yeah instant aoe is good

[wintry fox]

Iprobie alrdy hated those volleyballs enough to write a maincord feedback

[frail marsh]

and those balls still kill me sometimes

[wintry fox]

Gotta be desperate to do that

[rancid shore]

those balls force u to read the timeline of their spawn, they spawn so tricky, right when your first burst ein, so you really hope that SBS is on her 9 slash otherwise reset

so need a passive AOE

[karmic night]

2808%

Its additional dmg too, so should benefit from FBM 50% buff and other fbm buffs like crown s1.

[rancid shore]

without burst

[frail marsh]

cant believe i actually had to play the game at 75% cp

[wintry fox]

Oh so it's straight up shitton of damage

[rancid shore]

lol they really try to force u to learn new things

distant us from brainlessly spam burst

[wintry fox]

They started doing that since ch19

Glasses, Plate and annoying rock bombers

[rancid shore]

yea since RH release

for me

[wintry fox]

No, since mod release

[rancid shore]

for me for me

like after Rh i start learning the map

now with the volley ball i need to cook around the burst ends and any off burst aoe

[main zodiac]

Have you been keeping track of roughly how much you spend per day getting 4/4?

[wintry fox]

4-6 rerolls on average

[main zodiac]

Euch

[wintry fox]

But I also gain shitton of gems back

[main zodiac]

Not really

[wintry fox]

So it's like 2-3 rolls

[main zodiac]

Oh

[wintry fox]

I'll show you my results from today and tomorrow

On reset

[main zodiac]

You're not keeping core/credit boxes, I guess

[wintry fox]

No, only gems

[heavy wharf]

6 rerolls are already 300 gems

[wintry fox]

After the 4 slots are done I just auto and dispatch all

[wintry fox]

Yeah but -100 or -150 gems usually from the gemming

So it's fine

[main zodiac]

That's a lot of gems spent per day

[heavy wharf]

Pulls are still most important thing for f2p

[main zodiac]

Currently I'm just rerolling on 6+ garbage normal dispatch

[heavy wharf]

Spend more than 2 rerolls is not really a good thing for f2p tbh

[small meteor]

The most i reroll is about 1-2 to times if i have to . On average how much have u spent rerolling for this?

[heavy wharf]

He's not f2p

[wintry fox]

Who isn't f2p

Bro

[rancid shore]

with this 97% (I assume we stack these % really fast)

[wintry fox]

I've spent 2 times total on nikke

On rh banner last year - 20$, spent it all on pulls got nothing

On crown banner this year, 120$ for gacha skins, spent it all on pulls got nothing and then mileaged rumani to ensure I wasted everything 💀

[steel junco]

Now the real question no one has asked

Rapihood or RRH?

[small meteor]

Hood rapi

[main zodiac]

10 pulls Rouge, 20 pulls Phantom, 120 pulls rumani, 160 pulls xLud LB2

[small meteor]

Most call her rapipi

[glass hearth]

[rancid shore]

trying to use RapiRH so it easy for new players you talk to can relate in her full name order

[wintry fox]

I can 100% assure you that my gems go up, even if I spend on this shitty outpost dispatch

For like the first time ever my gems consistently stay above 15k gems lol

[rancid shore]

u can safely do
first dispatch: on the gem bonus cover the cost of my reroll 50 =>proceed to reroll. If not cover, dont reroll. Repeat on second/3rd dispatch

[wintry fox]

Whatever is on prydwen guide is the most f2p shit ever iirc

Only reset till 6 slots or more are open and stuff like that

[steel junco]

I stopped pulling this monday

I should have close to 9k when Rapi shows up, as long as you are actively pushing PvE and have a decent spot on PvP you should hardly have gem issues

[karmic night]

Dont worry, you only 300 if your lucky

[wintry fox]

Just trust me and try it for 2 weeks
Notice if total gems are going down or up

[main zodiac]

I mean, I was at 130k at the beginning of Ice Saga and now I'm at 95k

so I'd say mine went down

[heavy wharf]

Unlucky can crush you real fast

[wintry fox]

In what

Dispatch?

Bro you spent 40k gems on dispatch??

[main zodiac]

You build up gems to spend on banners

[heavy wharf]

It's about accumulation in preparation for bad pulling streak

[main zodiac]

just saying it's positive if you don't pull is not a winning strategy

[wintry fox]

I'm pretty sure
Whatever the prydwen guide has

On average it gives you +5 gems

Or +15 gems

Smthng like that

[main zodiac]

and if you're not resetting for maintenance, what's the average on dispatch?

[wintry fox]

Pure rng on how many gems u get

Often u get 0 gems anyways

[main zodiac]

that's not an average

[rancid shore]

just do it my way, if first dispatch show up can cover 50 gems reroll, do it- This ensure u dont loose much in a gamble, your loss is limited
cuz on normal day without reroll, your gems is varrying anyway.

[wintry fox]

But you'll be very lucky if u get 1 SR doll a month that way

[main zodiac]

I mean, that's fair

spending gems on banners vs dolls

but it is a choice

gems you spend on dolls means you **will **lose pulls on banners

[wintry fox]

Banners is a diff ball game
I'm able to save for banners quite easily

I'm a one copy Andy tho

[heavy wharf]

I understand that momo, but i still don't think spend more than once on rerolls per day is good for f2p

[wintry fox]

Was able to afford 100 pulls on xguillo and 30 on xMica

[alpine hatch]

Only need one copy in this game anyway

[main zodiac]

says the guy who had to spend mileage on Rumani XD

[alpine hatch]

Dupes just raise numbers

[wintry fox]

Anyways I tried preaching

It's your choice to listen or not

[rancid shore]

apply the same method on second reroll, does the new gems slot cover it? No? then dont

[main zodiac]

again, you're still losing pulls from opportunity cost

[wintry fox]

That's just my own thing though I would never suggest doing that

I'm js that i pretty much get enough pulls to do that even after rerolling dispatch

[main zodiac]

I can gain positive gems from resetting on 6+ garbage normal missions

[alpine hatch]

An old enough account should have another mileage to be able to afford use every now and then

if only doing single copies

I was dumb and didn't mileage Rouge

[main zodiac]

we just got through a multi 1% anniversary

[alpine hatch]

My alt suffered

[alpine hatch]

400 mileage

[heavy wharf]

You will live very comfy if you're one copy kind of guy

[alpine hatch]

[main zodiac]

SU is getting ready to drain us of our mileage

[alpine hatch]

If you can't get 800 mileage in a year of play, there's a problem

[main zodiac]

I am expecting Overcharge to appear outside of standard pilgrim banner times

[rancid shore]

ohh i might have to doll up or upgrade tempura for liter cuz she definitely eat lv7 nuke from indi

[alpine hatch]

I'll actually be kind of mad if Over Spec start replacing normal banner slots

[heavy wharf]

That will be a problem

Absolute is the near example

[alpine hatch]

If it just pads the times they don't have Pilgrims ready to release, cool

but imagine 3 week events all start being 1% banners

[steel junco]

fuck that shit

[heavy wharf]

Oh believe me, they will

[marble swan]

I don't

[rancid shore]

ohh and if RapiRH attachment can aoe second phase of indi, she might help with these 2 types of attacks

the 2 side barrage and the front barrage

without the need to focus them, destroying them passively with attachment barrage

thus improve damage on core

[tight fulcrum]

I thought youw ere F2P

I LOOKED UP TO YOU

NUUUU'

[alpine hatch]

I mean, might as well be

That level of spending is so low impact

[wintry fox]

2 skins and a 20 dollar pull pack on Rh banner that gave me no ssr

Those skin pulls gave me Jack shit on crown too

[tight fulcrum]

Surely you will have good luck on Rapipi

SURELY

[wintry fox]

I still only got 1 crown

[heavy wharf]

That doesn't change the fact that you're not f2p

[steel junco]

[wintry fox]

And that was before I spent

[steel junco]

DUDE DONT GIVE ME PTSD

[wintry fox]

I didn't deny the claim

[pallid crown]

Nobody is f2p here

[heavy wharf]

I am

[wintry fox]

Dude whatever I spent doesn't mean that what I'm saying is a lie

[steel junco]

Yeah I also also F2P

[wintry fox]

We did the math

[steel junco]

forced to pay

[wintry fox]

I'm trying to tell you facts 💯 🔥

[heavy wharf]

That's why I suffer at 0.5% at sea

[wintry fox]

That very high though

That's like top 500

[pallid crown]

Leo is f2p and top 200 kek

[heavy wharf]

Top 300 actually

[pallid crown]

[wintry fox]

He ain't f2p

Oh well, he is

Technically

[pallid crown]

yeah he's funding me

[heavy wharf]

I was top 200 since ultra, until ice dragon

[rancid shore]

anyone know the reason why Indi always gun down Asuka ? she has highest atk?

[heavy wharf]

Cuz I refuse to treasure exia

[wintry fox]

I was top 200 till like
Ur after ultra

[alpine hatch]

Should be highest ATK, ye

[wintry fox]

Brb, its booster pack time

[rancid shore]

so if Asuka going with RapiRH

Rapi cant have higher attack

cuz in Grave comp

no heal

Asuka need to have higher atk to tank

[alpine hatch]

They'll alternate

Depends on burst timing, I guess

[rancid shore]

no

[wintry fox]

Got jackshit again

[alpine hatch]

If Modernia's there, she could also potentially tank aggro

[rancid shore]

there is no atk buff on rapirh on burst

its not for her only even in b1

so that specific attack from indi only gun down asuka

[alpine hatch]

Ah, so if Asuka has higher ATK, then no problem

True

[wintry fox]

You can manipulate this using positioning so that Asuka always tanks

Just place her P2 or P1

[rancid shore]

asuka p4 is common place

in grave or alice crown comp

[alpine hatch]

I use Asuka P3

[wintry fox]

Umm you'll need to work around it ig

[rancid shore]

p3 nikke miss as Kisenix stated, Liter always p3

[marble swan]

I use her P1

[rancid shore]

he figured out the correct position

i mean explained

the one who figured out is from Don's union

[wintry fox]

So Alice goes p3 for that reason?

[rancid shore]

alice p5

[marble swan]

I used to care so much about position, when I ran Pepper B1 aka 2022

[rancid shore]

highest damage

[marble swan]

now it's just unga bunga

[wintry fox]

Who is p3 then? Liter/wife?

[marble swan]

feeling rusty

[rancid shore]

yea

[alpine hatch]

Interesting

I'll have to try that. Guess I've been hurting my own damage all this time

[pallid crown]

Smh Alice demoted, I can't believe it

[high lotus]

wait what

positioning matters for indi?

[rancid shore]

Crown-Naga-Liter-Asuka-Alice
ReiA-Grave-Liter-Asuka-Mod
now
look like main dps reserved p4 p5 slots, RapiRh will be in these position
main dps aggresively want to avoid p3

[pallid crown]

She carried me for a long time during part of 2023

[wintry fox]

For no chair/with issue only

[pallid crown]

otherwise? P1?

[violet dagger]

Nah that's wrong

[wintry fox]

Is for f2p tho

[violet dagger]

Yes bc the 2 gold rng box below the 3 purples is wrong

2 gold rng box is major W pick

[wintry fox]

Oh, I see

Gatrix told me to put it up but I didn't cuz I said confirmed purple gotta be better than rng of getting blue

[pallid crown]

[violet dagger]

Better than 1 gold and 3 purple

[pallid crown]

I won't reroll till hoard +150k gems

[wintry fox]

I see

[pallid crown]

November and December killed me

[violet dagger]

I ran a python simulator, the 2 gold rng box is better than 3 purple by a lot

[heavy wharf]

Jan and Feb won't be better

[alpine hatch]

Gold boxes are OP

[pallid crown]

[high lotus]

I reroll until I have all 4 at least B tier (except doll box, I don't care for those)

[wintry fox]

I'll update the graphic when I can, thanks for pointing it out

[violet dagger]

It turns out that by far the dominant factor in whether or not 1 drop is better than other is actually just whether or not it has more doll EXP

[high lotus]

well not reroll entire thing, I take the good stuff and gems + core dust cases

[alpine hatch]

Yup

[high lotus]

idk if smart, but I'm not broke on gems, so worth it for me

[rancid shore]

the new wishlist for pilgrim/overspec looks pretty good,
people might have a lower pressure to pull on pilgrim to higher core and look for alternative cheaper route with time in standard

[violet dagger]

2 gold = 2/10 * 1000 = 200 exp
2 gold rng = 200 exp for all outcomes
3 purple = 3/10 * 500 = 150 exp

[alpine hatch]

Isabel: Nov 2022 to Dec 2024

She'll never be seen again

[high lotus]

will still spook ya in limited

[wintry fox]

Oh it makes sense, kinda

4 2×SSR boxes, minimum 400 xp, with the chance of being much much higher cuz it can give purple and gold

4 3×purples, 500xp capped

[high lotus]

very rare I only get blues from opening like 2 or 3 2x ssr boxes

[wintry fox]

Probably better to keep it literal

I see

[heavy wharf]

I just wish they did a simple xp system instead of this super success crap

[alpine hatch]

Ignoring paper math, gold mats are particularly powerful because they can completely bypass RNG at R10

[high lotus]

gotta make everything a gacha

[wintry fox]

Trolling if you use gold on blue dolls

[violet dagger]

No math and supply and demand makes it clear you should just full send blue boxes onto R dolls

Blue boxes get giga extra value on R dolls

[wintry fox]

Thanks thanks, I'll update it soon

[alpine hatch]

Because assuming super successes is a bad idea

That's how you go broke

[pallid crown]

Update soon

[violet dagger]

Because it turns out best strategy is to bypass first level on SR5 and SR10 with weaker mats

E.g. blues

[alpine hatch]

I have a union mate who has gotten to phase 14 with seven dolls

[rancid shore]

why are we comparing doll xp when it’s all about supersucesses Rapi Redhood thread

[alpine hatch]

Two of those R dolls

[wintry fox]

That's 1 in a million for sure

[alpine hatch]

They've almost quit the game cuz of dolls

[wintry fox]

7 dolls for sure that's too rare

[violet dagger]

Acc progession is you first use blue mats to get an array of R15 on all your units

[pallid crown]

I forgot we were in rrh thread xD

[heavy wharf]

I actually follow that route

[violet dagger]

Then once all your dolls are R15+, you use 150 blues to "skip" the shitty SR5 and SR10 level

[alpine hatch]

But it happens

[violet dagger]

Reserving golds to SR6+/SR11+ will help you get way more SR15 dolls

[alpine hatch]

Yeah, that's definitely the better choice

[violet dagger]

That's why doll exp is dominant

In whether is dispatch a good

More exp IS more dolls

[heavy wharf]

Simple math

[alpine hatch]

Also simple math that failing super successes in R10 onward costs you more exp than using gold, which is insanely efficient when ignoring super success %

[violet dagger]

No lol

[alpine hatch]

If you're working with limited timeframe and exp, it's actually better. That's the only condition that applies tho

Longterm it's bricking

[violet dagger]

Bro I did the math and I ran the sims

You only need 60 blues on avg to go from R10 to R15

[alpine hatch]

on average

I'm talking worst case

Assume super successes don't exist

0% or 100%

[violet dagger]

No lmfao

That's terrible analysis

The point of this discussion is that I recommend all players send blues on R dolls because the value of blue mats on R dolls is relatively much much MUCH higher on R dolls, you only need 150 on avg to get an R0 -> R15

[sleek coral]

Kigitsune is agreeable and not aruguable

So you dont have to argue anyways

[alpine hatch]

I'm agreeing with that in almost all cases

[violet dagger]

30 golds meanwhile is enough to take you from SR5 to SR10

[alpine hatch]

But if you have 30 blues, 10 purples, 10 golds, and want to get an SR5 from R10 for the solo raid that's currently going on, it's better to use the golds

[sleek coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/837280009626189835.png?quality=lossless&name=deluheart&size=48

[alpine hatch]

[heavy wharf]

Gained some good info today

Thank you all

I know

[sleek coral]

I haven't yet

I just trust Kigitsune

[heavy wharf]

Unless Kira tricked me

[alpine hatch]

Cuz this person starting with blues with end up with no blues, no purples, and no golds

[sleek coral]

I still think R dolls are a scam

And will not use them

[alpine hatch]

Realistically forcing doll levels during SR is a bad idea in the first place

It won't make enough of a difference

[high lotus]

where does purple come in btw

[violet dagger]

This type of desperate situation is overly specific and makes a lot of assumptions, I'd say most ppl still shouldn't do this even if they were in that situation

[high lotus]

bc I get a good bit of purples from my refreshes

[alpine hatch]

Yeah, I agree it's extremely specific

[violet dagger]

2 gold into 2 purple strat or 1 gold into 4 purple strat at SR10-11/SR5-6

[alpine hatch]

I just don't like broad statements saying there's only one way something should be done

Statistics only work when run with wide samples

[violet dagger]

I think on the contrary you are being overly specific to the point where it's not helpful

[alpine hatch]

They don't work with specific case-by-case scenarios

[high lotus]

ok so.... the problem here is that I do not have the discipline to save up over a hundred blues to do any of that stuff, I use kits as I get them for the most part

[alpine hatch]

You should save blues

[violet dagger]

The specific example you provided is something is something I wouldn't even recommend without even more specific requirements and assumptions being made

[alpine hatch]

They are the best fodder for sure

[high lotus]

my last 3 SR supersuccesses are from blues

[pliant phoenix]

Cool mechanics, I like the explosions

[alpine hatch]

Well, if you're using them on critical units, no problem

I like having some stockpile for next unit in case better tho

I held off on X Maiden cuz of NY unit

[high lotus]

I wasted 0 kits on xmaiden, threw on SR0 and called it a day

[alpine hatch]

Have a healthy amont of mats for Rapi

[high lotus]

game will eos before I find a reason to get her doll higher than that

also bc I need all the RL dolls I can get

I get almost none from random drops in SR...

[violet dagger]

In general you should avoid ever throwing on SR0 since R15 is cheap with blue boxes and gives half the atk and 2/3 of the skill value of SR15

[alpine hatch]

Yup

[high lotus]

yeah, but for pvp units I want either SR0 or SR5 for the dmg reduction

I kept xlud at R15

[alpine hatch]

I only SR0 for PvP units, ye

Or questionably meta units like Volume

SMG dolls are memes anyway

[high lotus]

my liter has sr0

[pliant phoenix]

I think I caught up, we still haven’t settled the ideal mats use on dolls?

[violet dagger]

SR0 can be viewed as acceptable for suppprt units that don't really have caster stat based buff abilities

[high lotus]

after seeing how little crown's cp increased from going from SR5 to SR15, liter doll ain't ever going above SR0

[violet dagger]

CP isn't representative of the power the doll gives

[alpine hatch]

It's settled cuz both of us agree on what the correct long-term process is

[rancid shore]

Rapi passive, doll knowledge refreshment
start from here #1320717056311693392 message

[alpine hatch]

Straying would only be for desperate edge cases

[high lotus]

I also keep several units at SR10 for pvp indom purposes

[violet dagger]

Why

[high lotus]

I just go with the flow, use whatever my gut tells me, don't have patience to save up for weeks for a technically optimal approach

[alpine hatch]

There are dedicated threads for it

[rancid shore]

i just a clerk who record whats going on, its an interesting convo for sure, I acknowledge some potential mistakes i made personally from reading all of it from multiple perspectives

[violet dagger]

The math is based on the simulation that literally dumps every mat into the doll and shows the distribution of when it super successes

[pliant phoenix]

Yep, so basically blues on R dolls, and if at all possible reserve golds for SR6+/SR11+ dolls. That implies burning blues and purples to reach SR6 and SR11 before gambling with golds on them.

[violet dagger]

Yes

[pliant phoenix]

Then the only problem is supply, if you can get enough of those maintenance kits to keep this strategy going. With packages coming up to sell those, and rerolling dispatches, whales don’t have to worry much.

[violet dagger]

My 14 SR15 + all R15 dolls even in supports say otherwise

[main zodiac]

How does positioning work?

[violet dagger]

I'm saying yours is even worse

You haven't provided any counterargument besides just saying you don't believe it

[alpine hatch]

I have 12 SR15 dolls and 6 SR5 dolls and have used golds for R10 before

[violet dagger]

If you're not arguing then don't propose that this "isn't a real strategy" after I've painstakingly explained why it's good

[alpine hatch]

But how one resets dispatches is going to change things, too.

If you reset for 8 gold kits every day, you'll have like no blues or purples

[violet dagger]

Cause for lack of a better term, it's just being

[alpine hatch]

God I hope no one actually resets for only gold kits

[rancid shore]

man gotta link this to doll thread, this is just a good yap, out of nowhere but rapirh thread

[high lotus]

I have 5 SR15, 2 SR10, and like 11 SR5

[rancid shore]

eat some cookies and milk guys its Christmas why madge

[violet dagger]

The reason sac 150 blues in SR5/SR10 after all your other dolls are already R15 is because the probability of golds super successing at those levels is very low. Per gold it's 20 and 15, even if you spammed 30 golds you only have a 48.8%/38.5% chance of success and then you are out 30 golds

[karmic night]

I celebrate kwanzaa

[high lotus]

are doll boxes from dispatch worth it for the purposes of converting them into maint kits

[pliant phoenix]

There are two strategies, is what it amounts to.

One is plan around mostly F2P dispatch-earned resources, which gives you blue maintenance kits bloat and very few gold maintenance kits. The advice I’ve seen before was to emphasize burning blues, so that you consume all maintenance kits without being throttled, for the most maxed R or SR dolls possible.

Second is to plan around the fact that super success is a fast ticket to ultimate power . SR6+ and SR11+ give better odds of super success, and gold maintenance kits are in limited supply, so it’s common sense to save gold maintenance kits and use other kits to reach those breakpoints. Bad luck can still screw you over so don’t blame me if you go 0 for 8 after SR11.

Both strategies don’t mind using SR0 dolls on units nobody wants to max-doll. Tsukino was saying R15 dolls are also pretty good, so that’s an option if you end up with too many blue maintenance kits in the seconnd strategy.

[rancid shore]

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Kwanzaa

[violet dagger]

Meanwhile the rate jumps to 30%/27.5% at SR6/SR11, big jump of 50% more chance ar SR5 and 83.3% (!!!!!) at SR11

Vast majority of SR doll super success happen at SR6-7 and SR11-12 for this reason

[main zodiac]

Blues until SR6 is way easier on my feels than Blues until SR10

[pliant phoenix]

I think no. It’s there, but it’s basically a massive inefficiency to take any doll boxes even 60 but might as well take the 60. The small probability of getting a purple doll from unboxing or the recycling is the valued offset, not the kits from recycling dolls.

[violet dagger]

reason to use blue dolls for EXP to SR6/SR11 is because in comparison these mats have a very low chance of super success

and because income wise, you are assuredly going to have a mixture of blues to purples to golds, much more blues than golds

[near relic]

I do

[violet dagger]

If you weigh the number of blues, purples, and golds by their drop rate and chance to super success by only slamming them into SR5/SR10 until it super successes from a sim, it turns out the fucking 2 gold rng box is almost identical in value to the 2 guaranteed golds dispatch

[main zodiac]

When do you use purples?

[violet dagger]

used to balance supply and demand of blues to golds

[main zodiac]

I don't know how that turns out in practice

[violet dagger]

e.g. ideally I want to slam 150 blues into SR10 but I don't have 150 blues

but I do have 40 purples

[main zodiac]

I thought you didn't want to slam blues until SR10

[violet dagger]

I'm saying you want to slam blues to bypass SR10 to get to SR11

because the chances of super successing at SR10 is very low

[main zodiac]

Oh, at SR10

[violet dagger]

yes, at

you can go 20 purp + 100 blue instead to make up the lack of blues for example

Then next usage is at SR11

You can go 20 golds to try to super success, but lets say I have 10 more gold and 20 more purple

[main zodiac]

It's better to super success with gold at 6 than purple?

[violet dagger]

you can go the 20 purple first

then 10 gold at SR15 if that fails

[violet dagger]

You don't want to force it basically, golds will be likely to proc you to SR10, but the idea is to use purple if that fails

It's about supply and demand at that point

SR6, you can go for example

10 gold first, 30% chance to go to SR10

If it works, great

If it fails, we can slam another 10 gold, or go 40 purple

[alpine hatch]

Yeah, I do 10 gold, 20 purple, 50 blue order usually

[violet dagger]

good chance of going to SR10, but if it fails, then we will be at SR7

At this point you slam p much only golds

[small meteor]

Man i wish i can convert these sr doll for mats this sucks i already have too many i dont plan to use

[violet dagger]

so that's where purple comes into play

[alpine hatch]

It's a waste to close a level with golds

[violet dagger]

it helps you balance your blue <-> gold ratio and lets you tanks the late exp stages of your SR6/SR11 upgrade so that your next gold will be at SR7 or SR12

yes it is true

it is a waste to close a level with golds unless you are closing at SR7+/SR12+

which is very uncommon to begin with

[main zodiac]

what's the threshold for reset here?

[violet dagger]

B or above

Avg. Number of boxes (rows are Blue, Purple Gold) required to super success each level (by simulation) for R dolls (cols correspond starting at to R0, R5, R10).

[[5.251493 5.659422 6.1073  ]
 [1.755883 1.904646 2.075049]
 [1.       1.       1.      ]]
Total number of mats you need if you just spam each upgrade mat only
totals=array([17.018215,  5.735578,  3.      ]

Same table as above, but for SR0, SR5, SR10

[[20.271286 28.434907 37.347049]
 [ 6.871282  8.995343 10.835354]
 [ 3.301036  3.925007  4.490563]]
Total number of mats you need if you just spam each upgrade mat only
totals=array([86.053242, 26.701979, 11.716606])

The results make it clear that blues are good for their usage as EXP because their SS chance is very low

and that golds are very dominating in how much they SS

and that their proc chance is pre-dominantly at SR6+/SR11+, which is not surprising if you look at the table of SS chance

[high lotus]

which one is for blues

[violet dagger]

Every col is a level, every row is a mat

the row is blue -> purple -> blue

the col is starting at +0 -> +5 -> +10

[high lotus]

1 blue for super success starting at R10? (bottom left of first chart)

[violet dagger]

sorry

I mixed it up

reverse row and col

[high lotus]

ok that makes more sense

[violet dagger]

mb

[near relic]

4.49 gold for sr10?

[wintry fox]

https://youtu.be/ZhYZWkePOeY

Rh arguably probably better still

[high lotus]

[wintry fox]

Or crown

[pallid crown]

[wintry fox]

But yeah

[high lotus]

crown obviously

[wintry fox]

Nah Rh got that dawg in her

[alpine hatch]

If Crown didn't blind me half the time, she'd have my vote

[violet dagger]

on avg, if you dump only golds at SR10, you will take 4.49 attempts until you get SS

because the prob of succeeding on the first 30 is so low compared to the chances at SR11 onwards

[near relic]

Hmm

[violet dagger]

biggest spike of super successes is at SR11 for this reason

[high lotus]

I don't have the patience to stock up a lot of kits for true optimal.... ig imma just save golds for SR 6/11 and use the rest as i see fit whenever

[near relic]

So your point is edging until Sr6 and sr11

[violet dagger]

this is fine

[violet dagger]

the point is that ideally you should just hold golds until SR6 and SR11, which matches well with your natural gold to other kit income level even if you do/don't refresh

[near relic]

The matrix doesn't show this first 30

[violet dagger]

The point is that the distribution and inution matches up

[near relic]

I never use gold before Sr10

[violet dagger]

At SR 10, 1-0.85^3 = 0.385875

This is your chance of succeeding any gold mat

it's not even 40% even if you send 30 gold

In comparison your super success chance rises to 27.5% at SR11

that's an 83.3% jump relative to 15%

[sleek coral]

I cant see the mirrors because of Crown

[violet dagger]

can look at this table for reference

intuitively SR10 is clearly a far inferrior level to SR11 onwards

the jump in efficacy is very big

while SR5 compared to SR6 is only 50% relative to its base chance

[pastel iris]

Why rapipi and not redpi?

[steel junco]

why pipi?

[wintry fox]

Pp

[pliant phoenix]

RRH easiest

Hell if you’re super lazy, or SL, it’d be RR

[rancid shore]

sth i would agree with, these guys too goon to converse in normal language

[urban comet]

Rip Core dust and credits

[wintry fox]

I gave them your guide, not mine

For that reason

[wanton sedge]

and if you're very unlazy rapid hood

[wanton sedge]

i think the term comes from rapi pilgrim

[urban comet]

But at the same time purple and blue are way less efficient at higher levels

purple is fine tho

so 6 purple then gold?

[main zodiac]

(I'm trying to move this over to https://discord.com/channels/968096627002851379/1248451493061857312)

[urban comet]

its about the act of balancing tbh

SR 5 -> 10, use Purple, if not use Blue
SR 10 -> 15, if possible use Gold only, if not use Purple, if not use Blue

while there is indeed a huge multipler jump at SR 11, you still cant deny the fact that purple is WAY less efficient than gold at SR 10+ versus SR 5+

the most ecnomic in my opinion is to only use gold above SR 10+ which also means you can't really treasure too many units at once

I really need to make a dispatch reroll sim to calculate the average gold kit gain per month too

like based on my "when to refresh" algorithm, how much gems do I lose on average and how many kits I gain

[violet dagger]

I have 14 SR15 dolls, 1 SR10 doll, and 14+ SR5/R15 dolls rn from my strat

I put the math behind my strat in the other channel

relative income rates means that it's really a waste to dump gold into SR10

the strat I run is based on math, sim, and the natural rate of supply and demand

[urban comet]

but how do you even calculate natural rate of supply and demand

since your dispatch reroll is probably more expensive than most of us

[violet dagger]

natural rate just means that you will have big number of blues relative to golds

[urban comet]

that I can agree

[violet dagger]

Because the strategy is luck based it's not easy to math this out

so the natural rate is just based on experience and the rate I've seen between other accounts and my own

bc regardless of what you dispatch, you will get a large number of completely random boxes from solo raid and sustainable forms of dispatch

[urban comet]

did you make dispatch reroll sim?

[violet dagger]

no I just made a tier list of what to reroll based on value

[urban comet]

tier list?

[violet dagger]

I wouldn't the value 60 doll boxes as much for myself anymore but at the time it was valuable

[urban comet]

well anything on C or D is ok to reroll ig

[violet dagger]

yes

[urban comet]

well I still need tons of RL dolls for PvP

but maybe ure right

[violet dagger]

anyway any sane strategy (aka, a strategy that isn't "I will only take 2 golds and nothing else, burning like 6000 gems per day")

[urban comet]

I shud start rerolling the 30x ones

[violet dagger]

results in a big ratio of blues to golds

[wintry fox]

It's expensive as fuck, I'll tell you that

That 30× brings in a lot of % back in

Wait, you probably should do that

[urban comet]

well according to tie rlist

you have 45% of upgrading

[wintry fox]

You have like 400k gems

[urban comet]

and 18% of downgrading

[urban comet]

I have 364k only and no Xguillo yet smh

[main zodiac]

when you're rerolling a C tier?

no?

[small meteor]

hope they allow b1 and b3 with redhood

[urban comet]

82% chance of upgrading or staying the same*
18% chance of downgrading

[wintry fox]

I tried out getting no 30× boxes

And that killed my gems bruh

I was rerolling like 10+ times

For a week straight

[urban comet]

I only take the 30 mileage

but Ig its a bad idea

shud reroll that too

[violet dagger]

my dispatch strat is to take 25+ gems dispatches while I reroll

[main zodiac]

30 box is only 7%

[wintry fox]

I take any gems that come my way

[violet dagger]

I wouldn't take the 15

might take the 20

[urban comet]

Each slot is worth around 5 something something gems

[violet dagger]

but it just depends on whether you've ran out of regular dispatches by the time you're done

[urban comet]

wait hang on

[violet dagger]

I just do my strat based on that

[urban comet]

I think I didnt math this properly

[main zodiac]

do you burn all of your gems until you get tier C+ on all of your special dispatch?

[vagrant mantle]

What element is Rapi strong against. I keep forgetting

[wintry fox]

Rapi is strong against both wind and electric

Essentially she is equal to a unit who is both fire and iron

[violet dagger]

I go for either B+ if not urgent to stack mats or A+ if I need to stack mats urgently

[small meteor]

question is if she can break electric qte hmm

[violet dagger]

A+ is very expensive

[alpine hatch]

Theoretically she shouldn't

[wintry fox]

Good question

[alpine hatch]

The skill wording is that damage she deals is applied as strong element; it's not being converted to iron damage

but we won't know for sure until she's out

[urban comet]

I feel like my dispatch probabily calculator is not right. Im seeing more credits and core dust than the supposed average

[vagrant mantle]

We’ll know soon when datamine hits

Unless they’re extra petty and gonna add Rapi with a new update

[pliant phoenix]

I think yes, it’ll break QTE

Elemental immunity is a result of damage dealt being negated - the QTE rings have HP

[alpine hatch]

Would be awesome if so

[pliant phoenix]

Since damage is being applied as the correct counter element, the QTE ring will take damage

[urban comet]

I need to make Dispatch Simulator smh

time to python this out

[high lotus]

how does that work in maths though

[alpine hatch]

Since it's a new system, I'm just considering the possibility it's just checking the box in the damage formula (checking enemy element). If it's actually being coded as iron damage (changing her damage type), then bless

[karmic night]

depends on how its implemented.
could be something like the circle checks the units element b4 allowing it to apply dmg

[high lotus]

if element dmg bonus is > 0, x1, if = 0, x0?

depends if it checks element or element bonus

[alpine hatch]

If the former, it may not work against immunity states

[high lotus]

both work the same way atm bc innate 10%

[pliant phoenix]

For everybody’s sanity, I do hope it’s damage type that’s being checked

[high lotus]

it shows as immune instead of 0 right?

[urban comet]

Someone deleted the thread? @wintry fox

[alpine hatch]

I don't feel like Rapi's going to be left on her own without another iron unit anyway, so it shouldn't be a huge issue either way

[wintry fox]

Which thread?

[main zodiac]

The SR15 thread

[violet dagger]

RIP fun doll table

[urban comet]

SR 15 thread

[pliant phoenix]

Yes, the text immune comes up if it fails, and I don’t think anyone’s ever shot for 0 dmg.. it’d be 1 dmg instead

[urban comet]

lmao

I saw it disappear with my own eyes

[wintry fox]

Huh

[urban comet]

the SR 15 doll thread is gone