[Rapi: Red Hood] New Unit Megathread

[gritty token]

CDR and ATK and ATK damage

She looks better than D Wife, if just comparing to fire B1

[cunning cedar]

is she like all rounder?

[alpine hatch]

Red Hood was god B1, meh B3 on release (we don't talk about B2)

Rapi is god B3, meh B1

Although not truly god B3

[frail marsh]

i just got home

[gritty token]

But also yeah I mainly want her for Indivilia.

My doll-less Liter keeps fucking dying

[urban comet]

If with Alice, DWife is better.

[royal berry]

Want to know if she will be able to do damage equal to Alice in AI invidia

[frail marsh]

can someone explain the sticky bomb thing

[plucky yarrow]

How does her b3 works
Like can I use her to kill motherwhales’ core?

[alpine hatch]

She'll probably do more than auto Alice

[gritty token]

I'm with Rei, Alice has no chest piece which she can get from...... Indivilia

[alpine hatch]

[mental gull]

@slim olive

[alpine hatch]

More than gaming chair Alice? Not a chance

[royal berry]

Auto alice never exist in this game

[cunning cedar]

so for now she

is meh?

[urban comet]

Then, go Rapi Grave Asuka Rei Mod who cares.

[abstract fern]

I guess her B1 is futureproof for powercreep, but yeah she definitely did not inherit B1 from Red Hood well

[alpine hatch]

Outside of burst, just sticks them on

Upon bursting, all of them explode

During burst, they explode on impact

[pallid crown]

4,5/s chair still used so I doubt it dies

[blazing turret]

[plucky yarrow]

@slim olive

[urban comet]

Are u new

[slim olive]

i just did small math, didn't watch the video

[urban comet]

DWife Crown Asuka Rapi Mod doko?

[alpine hatch]

Crown vs Indivilia?

[slim olive]

based on what's written there, yes

[alpine hatch]

[twin cedar]

she's isn't great as b1, but not bad

[pallid crown]

[stray lance]

Her B1 is not bad

[alpine hatch]

Stuck two months ago?

[cunning cedar]

not all rounder / fit on all teams???

[stray lance]

It's just her B3 is too too strong

[alpine hatch]

Rapi Grave Asuka Rei Mod

[blazing turret]

what do you think bang?

[plucky yarrow]

Great
I can go through floor 380 without any problem
I guess

[small meteor]

Elysion tower saved

[twin cedar]

?

[gritty token]

Ok but whose gonna take Rei & Rapi as an Iron Soloraid team?

[royal berry]

solo rapi with other support

🤔

[alpine hatch]

Rapi Sticky Grenade (I refuse the awkwardly translated "projectile attachment" term) Mechanics

• When fired, hits an enemy (or location) for 88.11% (permanent 150.72% buff, additional 421.2% buff during burst) final attack.
• When entering full burst, grenades explode by order of firing for 88.11% (permenant 100.6% buff) damage.
• While in full burst, grenades are fired twice as often and explode on impact.

[gritty token]

Oh shit if your B1 dies Rapi will swap to B1 lol

[alpine hatch]

She shouldn't

[gritty token]

It's not just start of battle

[alpine hatch]

The B1 is still in the team

Dead =/= not in team

otherwise Blanc would lose CDR when Noir dies, which she doesn't

[urban comet]

Idk? I never see u

[gritty token]

[frail marsh]

looks like it deals damage when stick on
and also damage when explode?

[alpine hatch]

Yes

[gritty token]

Why check at end of full burst

If team can't change

[alpine hatch]

Burst heavily increases impact damage

[urban comet]

Yes

[frail marsh]

on burst it still do both or no?

should be both

[gritty token]

I think that's more likely a translation issue.

Pretty sure if B1 is dead at end of full burst she'll swap to B1 mode

[karmic night]

Only detonates during burst

[urban comet]

In Burst bombs immediately explode

[alpine hatch]

Hard to tell if they still exactly explode during full burst or if the the 421% damage buff on impact is counting the explosion animation

[urban comet]

Outside Burst bombs will wait till FB

[alpine hatch]

We didn't get damage numbers

[frail marsh]

fair enough

[alpine hatch]

so can't see if two damage procs or one

But there's no sticking during burst for sure

[frail marsh]

gonna assume just explode for now

[gritty token]

Bombs only exploding when she has full burst buffs is a strong mechanic

[slim olive]

Skill 2 and Burst, is this additive or multiplicative?

[urban comet]

Entering Full Burst damage always counts 1.5× btw

Only Burst Skill one doesnt

[urban comet]

Additive

[alpine hatch]

Probably additive and explosions don't occur

[obsidian torrent]

hmm, If game Register RH as b1,2,3 I don't think Rapi can be used as single b1, and CDR won't work on the team

[blazing turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk899R4zaG8

there is mark on rapture, after she FB, the mark explode

[urban comet]

Dont use Rapi as buffer

[small meteor]

I wonder how much gen she give if shes using explosion off fb

For pvp

[urban comet]

This unit needs 4 ammo 4 ele and 4 atk btw

[alpine hatch]

Attack lower priority tho

[urban comet]

Or

[urban comet]

No

[alpine hatch]

Yes

[urban comet]

95% is low trust

[alpine hatch]

She has two strong elements and is MG with a critical mechanic based on ammo

Attack is tertiary

Not saying she doesn't want it

[urban comet]

Do u want her to hit 1 damage outside FB?

[alpine hatch]

Definitely 12/12 unit

[urban comet]

[pallid crown]

Yeah 12/12 unit

[alpine hatch]

I don't do 40% deficit

I'm talking raids

[pallid crown]

[urban comet]

Nah 10-11/12 is fine

12 is pushing it

[stray lance]

at least 4 ammo

[polar breach]

[alpine hatch]

4 ammo, 4 element

[urban comet]

This is dumb

[alpine hatch]

Attack if you can get it

[urban comet]

Kira says MGs only need 3

[slim olive]

math v3 (may be lower if burst bonus is calculated different)

Every 60 attacks (1s on 60fps)
Skill 1 -> 88.11% * 2.5072 = 220.91 * 5.212 = 1,151.38%
Skill 2 -> 88.11% (explosion) final atk * 2.006 (skill 2) = 176.75%
= 1,328.13% final atk * 10 (full burst time) = 13,281.3% final atk 
+ 2808% burst damage = 16,089.3% of final atk```

[alpine hatch]

Normal MGs, sure

[royal berry]

is that 3 line all black

[wintry fox]

During burst, she almost does alice lvl damage (4.2shot/s)

Outside of burst, she should be doing more damage than alice

which means overall she should be a better dps than alice

on single target

[urban comet]

You want 4 ele tho cus she works against 2 elements

[alpine hatch]

Definitely

[urban comet]

[wintry fox]

that is what my math says

[urban comet]

Ur math sucks

[alpine hatch]

I don't think explosion is in the full burst tbh

[twin cedar]

it should

[mental gull]

3 is like baseline u need i think, but if u got 4 then even better

[alpine hatch]

I think the 421% buff during burst is "adding" the explosion

[urban comet]

Alice deals more if there is core

[royal berry]

[obsidian torrent]

Nikke should add ingame fps counter ngl, so that I can immediately restart the game if it's below 55~60

[wintry fox]

why tf is it taking u guys so long to figure simple english out 😭

[polar breach]

In a pve escenario?

[slim olive]

that'd be hella weird for performance tho just stack bombs during a burst and off-burst just to detonate next FB?

[mental gull]

||lowkey feel the kit also not that complicated for this one, but still appreciate the bois ||

[urban comet]

Outside Burst:

• Attachment deal 220.909% every 2 secs.
• Explosions deal 176.74% every 2 secs (likely affected by 1.5× since it explodes in FB)
• Average: 533.02% damage per sec, including basic attack with no additional multiplier. No core.

In Her Burst:

• Attachments deal 592.02% every sec.
• Explosions deal 176.4% every sec.
• Average: 11,206.2% over 10 seconds, including basic attack (not yet affected by 1.5×) + 2,808% initial damage. No core.

[karmic night]

I think they just explode right away in fbm, otherwise she kinda bricked, cus it looks like she wasnt marking the boss during her burst in the vid.

421% specifies the on hit dmg and not explosion.

[alpine hatch]

Impact outside burst 226% final ATK with explosions upon burst 176% final ATK for 402% final attack impact + explosion, while during burst just deal 591.85% final from impact

[urban comet]

She is just slightly stronger than Mod feeling like but they can edge out each other in some situations.

Maybe 1.05-1.2× more at peak.

But ure building a unit for 2 elements.

Save cost.

[stray lance]

then her drills do 2 instances of dmg ?

[gritty token]

Yeah the fact she's two elements means really no excuse not to dump rocks on her

[wintry fox]

this is right i believe

[stray lance]

Impact dmg + explosion dmg on full burst

[heavy wharf]

imagine having 2 pages of skill description just to barely outdmg Mod

[urban comet]

No, it's additive.

[wintry fox]

imo she is doing more damage than alice

feel free to math it out

[urban comet]

Your math is never right.

[alpine hatch]

Outside of burst, they deal two instances because of detonation

[urban comet]

Why would we trust you

[karmic night]

How you know its additive?

[small meteor]

Alicr gaming chair or no gaming chair

[twin cedar]

much stronger than mod against bosses without a core imo

[alpine hatch]

During burst, it's unknown until we see damage numbers

[wintry fox]

chair ofc

[urban comet]

Are u just saying it for content

Like skyjlv did with trony

[urban comet]

It deals attachment + explosion 100%

[stray lance]

you mean in full burst time ?

[alpine hatch]

There's no confirmation of that

[urban comet]

In Full Burst Time is the correct translation according to vid

But they might change it

[alpine hatch]

Upon entering full burst, yes

Grenades don't explode unless you full burst

[wanton sedge]

aww that sucks, i can't use her in my no-burst team

[stray lance]

yeah then drills do 2 instances of dmg

[urban comet]

Cindy burst is still stronger

[stray lance]

which is can be said as " pierce "

impact dmg + explosion dmg

[urban comet]

Tf u mean pierce

[alpine hatch]

You think they get a 63,483% buff during her burst?

[wintry fox]

the splash damage is essentially a pierce effect

[urban comet]

THE SPLASH DAMAGE SUCKS

[wintry fox]

u can equate it

[alpine hatch]

During full burst, it's unknown

[karmic night]

Yes

[stray lance]

if bosses have part

[urban comet]

Yes can "Collat"

[stray lance]

I think it does

Cause when you use her B3, you gain impact dmg bonus

[alpine hatch]

Yes, because they always impact

[wintry fox]

from my understanding, her base weapon does the most damage

[karmic night]

Damn nikke copy genshin impact now

[urban comet]

Why are u so bad at math

[stray lance]

impact then explode later cause u'r in full burst ?

[urban comet]

No but ure right outside her burst

[alpine hatch]

My point is whether the conversion to contact grenades actually includes a separate explosion calculation or if the grenades exploding on impact is incorporated into the burst buff

[cobalt narwhal]

Both

[twin cedar]

in the normal sense, both

[alpine hatch]

Which is something no one can conclude until we see damage numbers

[heavy wharf]

"that attaches to hit locations"
can this attach to destructibles? i can shoot the background and just instantly explode the stage boss in elysion tower

[urban comet]

SHUD I REDEEM REENERGY AND NEVE BODY LABELS

@stray lance

[vagrant mantle]

Yes

[urban comet]

Or just credits

[vagrant mantle]

Spend all event currency there or bricked account

[urban comet]

[vagrant mantle]

[alpine hatch]

Assumedly yes

[urban comet]

Sin doesnt want to answer

[fair apex]

That grenade gonna active even when she b1 right
Then she deal decent damage even if b1 from the skill 2

[cunning cedar]

is rapii the same as RH?

[stray lance]

base on their showcase video

[slim olive]

modernia has higher base

[stray lance]

the drill impact, then explode, and do dmg to parts

[urban comet]

@wintry fox ANSWER

[wintry fox]

i dont mean that

i mean overall

[alpine hatch]

Explosion animation doesn't guarantee a separate damage calculation

[stray lance]

credits

[wintry fox]

should be looking like this imo

[urban comet]

Thank u

[urban comet]

I dont trust ur math but sure i guess it kinda makes sense

Assuming 180s

[wintry fox]

this isnt accurate actually

[urban comet]

And if there is core

[wintry fox]

this is just for during her burst

[urban comet]

Ok thats not accurate

[wanton sedge]

bro doing math in a dark room with wrong hand

[urban comet]

Its like 25% in her burst (no core)

[stray lance]

if the explosion happens after the drill impact then it does

[alpine hatch]

During full burst, they explode on impact

[wintry fox]

this is prolly more like it

[alpine hatch]

There's no delay

[urban comet]

Guys if I dont spend event tokens it becomes 200 credits right

[alpine hatch]

Yeah, leftover is just automatically credits

[urban comet]

Good job now ure more wrong

[wintry fox]

without core

[urban comet]

More wrong

[heavy wharf]

natural accumulation of battle data is actually the slowest compare to credit and dust

[frail marsh]

cooking...

[heavy wharf]

but you use credit to upgrade gear also

[wintry fox]

do it faster

[mental gull]

waiting for the meal mr raon, feed us hungry plebs

[wanton sedge]

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't attachemnt dmg 238% and explosion dmg 188% during full burst?

[blazing turret]

it's mr raon waiting room

[wanton sedge]

and it shoots every 60 shots which is around 330% dmg?

[alpine hatch]

For B1, yes

B3 gets a massive bonus to impact damage

[slim olive]

why

[pallid crown]

Hahahaahaha

[wintry fox]

sefhi is funny like that

[alpine hatch]

(and that's assuming explosions are separate )

[wintry fox]

he aint wrong tho

[karmic night]

Didnt he get demonetized?

[wanton sedge]

oh missed the 421% from burst yeah

[mighty lodge]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/124657395?mode=best&p=1
so in paper she’s 1.196 sbs+alice with core hit and 1.156 sbs+alice without core hit

[wintry fox]

i dont think he was making a living out of youtube

[urban comet]

Outside Burst:

• Attachments deal 220.909% every 2 secs.
• Basic attacks hit 334.2% every second.
• Average: 444.46% damage per sec. No core. No damage distance. No crit.

In Her Burst:

• Attachments deal 592.02% every sec × 1.5 = 888.03%
• Delayed explosions deal 176.4% × 2 (four seconds) × 1.5 = 529.2%
• Explosions deal 176.4% every sec × 1.5 = 264.6%
• Basic attacks hit 334.2% per sec × 1.5 = 501.3%.
• In total, over 10s, deals 17,062.5% total damage + 2,808% initial Burst damage. No core. No damage distance. No crit.

[small meteor]

Sefhi funded by sugar daddy scarrow

[heavy wharf]

should you pull? yes

[wanton sedge]

709% attachment and 188% explosion damage then, and 330% from gun

[small meteor]

That tie unnecessary

[wintry fox]

i got it close enough for core hits

[mighty lodge]

tldr she’s cinder level dps with dual ele code

[wintry fox]

wait is this for sbs

[urban comet]

Fixed.

[heavy wharf]

cowards

[urban comet]

Added basic attack 1.5.

[small meteor]

Wheres tldr for b1

[sly bane]

skip?

[alpine hatch]

Definitely

[sly bane]

ty

[small meteor]

Skip reading

[alpine hatch]

Volume-tier B1

[wintry fox]

skip for b1 100%

[alpine hatch]

[mighty lodge]

it’s a bonus feature for like story stages

[wintry fox]

can we get 2% banner if they scrap the b1

[pallid crown]

Volume does nothing, only CDR smh

[urban comet]

Added no damage distance*.

[frail marsh]

more than no pierce Alice

[wintry fox]

kinda crazy

[small meteor]

Would she be good in high deficit defense mode campaign , quite annoying im doing peepee dmg

[wanton sedge]

oh it's 88% * 6.71? That makes more sense yeah

[frail marsh]

should calc one with permanent core + pierce for indi, no?

[wintry fox]

yk what i should do
i should make a cindy one

[karmic night]

KR cook

[small meteor]

Since captures the flag is all about dmg and aoe

[wintry fox]

yessir

[urban comet]

Added no crit.

[alpine hatch]

Is this damage in a void or assuming a specific team comp?

[lime horizon]

Her B1 is useful when you get one-shot on campaign and lose your other B1

[alpine hatch]

I always like raonmiru's calcs cuz they include team comps

[frail marsh]

I assume the explosion damage can multi hit body + parts

oh i forgot indi doesnt piece

just the core lol

?

[urban comet]

Alice deals more with core.

[mighty lodge]

https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/124661914?mode=best&p=1
and in another calculator rapi b1 is like 1/3 dmg compared to b3

[frail marsh]

50% core, can adjust later

ill just finish this first

[alpine hatch]

Not like she loses 95% ATK or anything

[pallid crown]

Yeah xD

[alpine hatch]

half grenade RoF, no bonus to impact, etc

She definitely wants to be B3 whenever possible

B1 is only going to be in situations where other B1s are weak

aka people with LB0 no OL Liters vs Indivilia

[small meteor]

Will she be good in captures the flag campaign in high deficit is my question as b1

I play 35%

[alpine hatch]

LB0 T9M Rapi > LB0 T9M Liter vs Indivilia without question

[urban comet]

Well now BiS for campaign is RH B1 in Iron weak now

[alpine hatch]

Capture the flag would be hilarious due to her just planting grenades densely in the radius

[urban comet]

[alpine hatch]

Good or not

[urban comet]

Rip RH dps

U will be missed

[mighty lodge]

another thing need to be tested is that will rh be recognized as b1 with rapi or not

[frail marsh]

team btw

feels free to give me suggestion

on team

[urban comet]

Nah

Liter Crown Asuka Rapi Mod

[frail marsh]

i know its not practical

[urban comet]

[normal sedge]

Is she good for Ultra Anomaly? I resetted my SnowWhite and dont want to invest rocks on Maxwell

[urban comet]

Rei is shit

[alpine hatch]

Can I see Liter/Grave/Asuka/Rei/Modernia vs Liter/Grave/Asuka/Rapi/Modernia?

[small meteor]

C7 sbs or hood rapi

[frail marsh]

ill do liter crown rei rapi mod

[urban comet]

Was the bottleneck

[urban comet]

Pls not Rei

She is shit

NOOOOOOOO

[small meteor]

Rapi is on par with cinder dmg?

[frail marsh]

crown for now

[alpine hatch]

[urban comet]

Liter Crown Asuka Rapi Mod

Is DEFINITELY HIGHEST DAMAGE POTENTIAL

[frail marsh]

ok fine

[urban comet]

[frail marsh]

that

[stray lance]

DKW Crown Rapipi Alice Asuka for Indi S9

[alpine hatch]

Actually really, my main curiosity if if she'll beat Rei and Alice paired with Asuka for Indivilia

But she'll 100% beat Rei if Crown is used

[urban comet]

Imagine Kira running RH Rapi Grave Cindy XMaiden.

[alpine hatch]

If it works

[urban comet]

[fast sun]

asuka skippers in absolute shambers

[alpine hatch]

There's the off-chance RH is treated as B1, B2, and B3 at the same time, voiding Rapi as B1

[wanton sedge]

rerun coming tho?

[alpine hatch]

We'll see how they code it

[alpine hatch]

Not rerun

[slim olive]

new collab, Asuka alt

[alpine hatch]

Asuka and Rei getting alts

[small meteor]

Wait guys rh is b1 so u cant even use her b1

[mighty lodge]

I bet shitup will mess up dat thing like cinder

[small meteor]

Lol

[alpine hatch]

Mari may get a rerun considering new outfits

[urban comet]

Anyways

[wanton sedge]

they'll 90% have re-pick up

[urban comet]

Rapi isnt worth dupe

[pallid crown]

Rhb1 the queen

[urban comet]

[small meteor]

My dream is shattered

Rh is b1 cant even use her in campaign b1

[urban comet]

Well Cindy dupe was more useless

Idk why I got her 3★

[mighty lodge]

cinder dupes worth more than others with hp up tho

[stray lance]

Pilgrim 2.5 supporter for sure

[gray meadow]

so c7, gotcha

[stray lance]

Back to Kingdom, Chime playable

[urban comet]

Yeah but

Its diluted as fuck

Its mainly for cp padding if any

Rapi on the other hand...

WORKS FOR 2 ELEMENTS

[pallid crown]

I wanna Nayuta+pioneers stuff first

[wintry hawk]

U again xD

[urban comet]

URE BASICALLY PULLING FOR 2 UNITS

[mighty lodge]

and bald heads are saying rapi seems even more worth for dupe but we’ll see

[urban comet]

50% cheaper

Discount bargain

[gray meadow]

[small meteor]

I really hope u can still use her b1 even with rh

[alpine hatch]

Nayuta for B2 SG Exodia

[urban comet]

I pray not

PLEASE NO

NO PLS

SHE WILL BE BRICKED IN CAMPAIGN

NO PLS

[alpine hatch]

It'll work fine for anyone who doesn't live in super high deficit, dude

[small meteor]

Hope u can choose both

[alpine hatch]

[wanton sedge]

i don't understand ppl wanting to use b1 Rapid Hood

She looks so much better as B3

[wintry hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-18100860

[mighty lodge]

and bastion is da best cube for her?

[urban comet]

This

[small meteor]

For high deficit defense mode

[alpine hatch]

Because Mod+Alice is the usual B3 combo

[urban comet]

Not if u use Crown

[alpine hatch]

If she can't beat those two, she's B1 at best

[mighty lodge]

[wanton sedge]

use any other cd b1

[alpine hatch]

That's the question

Rapi has better CDR

[wanton sedge]

barely

[pallid crown]

[urban comet]

We know Asuka will get stuck to Tia or Crown next raid

[wanton sedge]

for short figths it doesn't matter and you can use liter for long ones

[urban comet]

Thats one thing

She needs shield

[pallid crown]

How many lurkers here?

[alpine hatch]

No delay like Liter and co., and not bricked by slow spawns

[urban comet]

[small meteor]

I want more dmg two not enough for high deficit

[urban comet]

Rapi will 100% join Asuka and Crown

[wintry hawk]

Well i want to use good burst 1 for AI vs Kraken. And liter is iron coded which is at bottom of my list to invest. Rapi gives atk buff which can be nice

[wanton sedge]

wild natsu appeared

[karmic night]

Apparently no crown buff cus hes not sure how itll stack with her projectile buffs

[wanton sedge]

Also liter gives atk buff too

[alpine hatch]

18% vs Liter's 40+%

and Rapi's needs heavy investment to make worthwhile

Liter's is just skill books

[wintry hawk]

XD

[twin cedar]

assumingly the highest CP b1
I'm not surprised ppl use her as b1 in campaign

[alpine hatch]

If you were going for Indivilia, I could understand

but Liter is easily best for Kraken

[wanton sedge]

go back to the union chat

[small meteor]

Cant use her b1 if redhood is b1

:/

[alpine hatch]

Might be able to

We don't know how it's coded yet

[wintry hawk]

My liter is currently 6-4-6. Even my Dkw did help me much more with Kraken in term of total dmg

[urban comet]

• Liter Crown Asuka Rapi Mod
• DWife Tiga SBS Alice
• Cindy Rouge SAnis Grave RH
• Tove Blanc BSoda Drake Noir
• Volume Mari XLud Rei Maxwell?

[wintry hawk]

Why

[wanton sedge]

it's weird

[wintry hawk]

XD

[alpine hatch]

Wouldn't X Maiden be better than S Anis with Rouge?

[wanton sedge]

is this SR lineup?

[mighty lodge]

xaiden goes with rouge

[urban comet]

Probably.

[mighty lodge]

and sanis to ein

[urban comet]

Xmaiden shafted.

[alpine hatch]

Volume/Mast/2B/Rei/X Lud

[urban comet]

I regret over investing in her

Shes shit and inflexible

[wanton sedge]

xmalden

[alpine hatch]

X Maiden got me S9 in MC

Freed me from fingerbreaking with Ein

[twin cedar]

X.maiden is good for pvp too

[wanton sedge]

what do you mean? isn't Ein supposed to full charge?

[urban comet]

• Liter Crown Asuka Rapi XLud/Mod
• DWife Tiga SBS Alice
• Cindy Rouge SAnis Grave RH
• Tove Blanc BSoda Drake Noir
• Volume Mari XLud/Mod Rei Maxwell?

[forest helm]

cannot believe rouge gets BOTH dorothy and priv benched

[wintry hawk]

Sniper riffle kinda never

[wanton sedge]

but she buffs herself on full charge?

[alpine hatch]

Ein's skills only make her full charges better

Quickshotting is still more damage

Especially with Crown

[wanton sedge]

ic

[frail marsh]

does she actually become a B1 and cant burst 3 anymore if no burst 1 ally?

[alpine hatch]

cuz infinite ammo

[urban comet]

Yes

[wanton sedge]

yes

if no b1 ally you can't burst 3 anyways

[alpine hatch]

She physically can't work with re-enter B1

as a B1

[small meteor]

This sucks

[urban comet]

She can if u bring another B1

[wanton sedge]

that's also nice

[alpine hatch]

Three B1s?

[wanton sedge]

stops people from making mistakes

[urban comet]

[wintry hawk]

Wdym lol

[alpine hatch]

No, that's bad

[alpine hatch]

She's another unit to make co-op a disaster

[small meteor]

Cant use b1 with rh ( specifically for defense mode )

[alpine hatch]

[frail marsh]

still on the process of checking for errors but have a look

[wanton sedge]

i'm just trying to stop ppl from trying to play b1 rapi

[alpine hatch]

She might be usable as B1 with RH

[karmic night]

In 5 rapi coop, do they all become b1?

[pallid crown]

Smh Cindy

[wintry hawk]

Wont work xD. Until actually tried

[alpine hatch]

I can't wait to see this

[wintry fox]

your numbers so close to mine

[alpine hatch]

inb4 just crashes

[alpine hatch]

0 damage, run expended

[wintry fox]

big thing to test

[wintry hawk]

Next coop vs alteisen is fire weak?

[small meteor]

Only math i trust alice

[wintry hawk]

Time to shine with Alice

[chilly coyote]

it's either:
a) one becomes b1
b) all become b1
c) all become b3

[twin cedar]

the left most rapi will become B1 and the others will be B3
that's my guess

[alpine hatch]

Lord, and raonmiru never calculates elemental damage

[wintry fox]

u got exact same answer as arca guy

[alpine hatch]

That's neutral damage

[wintry fox]

down to the dot

wait sorry

[wanton sedge]

Nice, can you do 100% core and 0% core as well so we get a better idea?

[wintry fox]

he got 15%

[frail marsh]

i can do them now

[wintry fox]

u got 11.5% like me

[wanton sedge]

c is impossible

[chilly coyote]

rapi by default is b3

listed as b3 fire

[wanton sedge]

so since there are no b1s she should turn to b1

either game checks base burst = all b1
game checks actual burst = 1 b1 4 b3

[pallid crown]

Bad thing about her against iron weak raids is that she can't break qte

[wanton sedge]

why not

[heavy wharf]

then the 2nd person will turn into b1

and the rest will be b3

[alpine hatch]

I imagine it'll check left to right as this game does with most things

[karmic night]

You calced her proj dmg buffs stacking additive with crown buffs right?

[pallid crown]

She's not iron

[frail marsh]

yeah

[pallid crown]

[twin cedar]

I don't think the checks are processed concurrently
so the left most one will become B1 and the others will stay as B3

[fresh linden]

Also, Rapi RH is impossible to combo with NIKKE like Tia.

[wanton sedge]

Beats Alice against 100% core??

[alpine hatch]

She applies damage as strong damage. She doesn't convert her damage to iron

[green charm]

So Rapipi is dual elemnt?

[fresh linden]

Those NIKKE that require re-enter B1

[frail marsh]

100% core no pierce

[alpine hatch]

Technically no

She just gets strong element buff vs two elements

[frail marsh]

what ya need?

[wintry fox]

all 4 numbers are the same

[alpine hatch]

Oh, I was just commenting that she has that much neutral damage potential

[wanton sedge]

i agree, it's either that or all b1, was just saying no way they all stay b3

[alpine hatch]

which means she'll be a monster vs Indivilia

[wintry fox]

and ultra both

[green charm]

I mean her Elemental dmg in OVC will affect both wind and elec?

[alpine hatch]

MG vs permanent core

[wintry fox]

dont forget ultra has core and parts

[frail marsh]

just 2 different numbers...

[alpine hatch]

Yeah, but Ultra requires 26s nonsense

And core is gone so easily in the beginning

[frail marsh]

im used to typing an duplicate of the result to copy paste on the ranking

[wintry fox]

it comes back

if u are fast enough

[frail marsh]

oh asuka give core damage boost?

[pallid crown]

Yeah

[alpine hatch]

I'm really gunning for Liter/Grave/Asuka/Rapi/Modernia for Indivilia

[wintry fox]

yes

[wanton sedge]

the real question is can my poor fucked up account field a decent rapid hood team

[alpine hatch]

for those with weak Liters, Rapi/Grave/Asuka/Rei/Modernia

[wintry fox]

but shes definitely worse than rei

[alpine hatch]

[wintry fox]

in giving buff

[urban comet]

Liter Crown Asuka Alice?

[wanton sedge]

idk why we're using rapi over liter considering lv1 liter buff is stronger than lv10 rapi buff

[urban comet]

Pls do Liter Crown Asuka Alice (peak Alice)

[hollow hinge]

better than RH huh?

[karmic night]

Her proj imp dmg might be able to core hit since its actually a weapon change.

[pallid crown]

Rh who?

[stray lance]

RH only strong when Iron Weak and core,pierce

[pallid crown]

[mental gull]

[frail marsh]

fixes some bug
still the same

[alpine hatch]

Because Liter dies at the beginning of Phase 2 Indivilia if you don't have heavy investment in her

[frail marsh]

just dont die

[wintry hawk]

More dmg maybe

[frail marsh]

its that easy

[alpine hatch]

Not stated anywhere to be a weapon change

It's just an extra projectile

[wanton sedge]

i'm not sure if investing into Liter is a worse idea than running a B1 with practically no buffing capability

[frail marsh]

projectile might be able to core hit yeah

if it can, then poggers

[karmic night]

Implied

[alpine hatch]

It's a secondary weapon

She still fires normally

It's a new mechanic entirely

[mental gull]

just a passive projectile doesnt mean she changing weapon or anything

[alpine hatch]

Not saying it won't be able to hit cores; I hope it can

[frail marsh]

if it hit core

[wanton sedge]

does this count as "weapon change"

[wanton sedge]

hehe

[mighty lodge]

wtf

[wintry hawk]

Do u have maybe too count? For AI vs Kraken?
My liter 6-4-6 no OL with Alice and SBS.
And Rapi b1 with 10-10-10 instead of liter? How much will they do?
Since my Dkw beat Liter in Kraken AI

[alpine hatch]

Nope. It's a secondary weapon

[heavy wharf]

speaking of secondary weapon, why dont we have a unit that use dual weapon and require firing separately on both guns ?

[alpine hatch]

[mighty lodge]

so asuka and rei can also buff iron team with rapi?

[alpine hatch]

She doesn't stop firing

[marble swan]

Mid

[karmic night]

Ok but the most important part its considered weapon dmg. So can prolly core hit

[alpine hatch]

Infinite ammo as MG while a second weapon indicator appears

[urban comet]

Yes

[alpine hatch]

Actually not infinite ammo

I guess you just can't see the ammo?

[frail marsh]

nah bruh i dont have that

[alpine hatch]

[wintry hawk]

Damn sadge xD

[frail marsh]

i do everything manually

it's not a magic sheet

[wintry hawk]

Ooh i thought u had something lol

Like formula

Which makes pc count self

[frail marsh]

yeah but i still have to enter buffs for each team manually

[wanton sedge]

natsu has street smarts guys dont make fun of him

[wintry hawk]

Ah ye that sucka

[wintry hawk]

How so lol

[urban comet]

Wait what

ITS INFINITE AMMO?

[alpine hatch]

I corrected myself

Read down

[forest helm]

is modernia worth fixing at this point

[urban comet]

Never have been lmao

[alpine hatch]

Just can't see the ammo count in the preview stuff

[mental gull]

if u wanna get good ranking on fire SR yes, if not then not rlly

[forest helm]

she is almost perfect

[urban comet]

Then make her

[forest helm]

[urban comet]

Its better to funnel investments than spread

I regret wasting on xmaiden because of this

Shes useless as fuck

[forest helm]

the question is more like.. investing in others or improving modernia

[urban comet]

Could have funneled into Ein instead

Or SAnis

[alpine hatch]

I feel like she's a better investment than Ein is

[frail marsh]

3 ammo 4 atk 4 ele
stupid unit

[alpine hatch]

I say that having a better Ein than X Maiden

[wanton sedge]

kinda related but unrelated question: considering my only (real) pilgrims are SBS and Grave, what should my pilgrim wishlist be after pulling Rapid Hood?

[alpine hatch]

Crown (king of B2)/Cindy (broken)/Red Hood (Flexible)/Drunklet (PvP Queen)/Modernia (Campaign and raid off-burst)

[urban comet]

Xmaiden will be shafted next raid

And Ein too

[frail marsh]

SBS Crown RH Cindy Rapipi

[urban comet]

But Ein will return in wind raid

At least Ein has role in campaign

Xmaiden is total shit

[forest helm]

what is your guess? maybe it is the answer

[wintry fox]

#questioning-centre

[urban comet]

Crown RH Scarlet Modernia Rapunzel Noah

[alpine hatch]

Six

[marble swan]

why do you read

[pallid crown]

Smh classic 6 wishlist numbers

[alpine hatch]

This isn't Pokemon

Nintendo will patent that and sue you

[urban comet]

Id argue Mod is kinda shit but she is the only offburst dps that works

[forest helm]

official pokemon tournament has 4 only

[urban comet]

So pick your poison

[forest helm]

campaign has mod check

[urban comet]

Wrong click smh

https://tenor.com/view/make-your-choice-decide-choose-make-your-pick-dallas-roberts-gif-15824251

[urban comet]

It doesnt

[wintry fox]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-thinks-he-is-on-the-team-gif-734468567113922582

[urban comet]

All stages clearable by Mod clearable by everyone else

[wintry fox]

rapunzel noah

[pallid crown]

Smh we can't even use her in shooting range till 01/01/25

[urban comet]

No Crown/RH = brick tho

https://tenor.com/view/kianakaslana-honkaiimpact3rd-herrscherofflamescion-ripwallet-timerunner-gif-24325088

[marble swan]

so

[prime heron]

you can see it in the battle preview in the christmas stream

[marble swan]

does her drill explode every time it lands during burst?

I know she shoots one drill at a time

[alpine hatch]

Explodes on impact

Unknown whether it's still a separate damage proc or not

cuz no damage numbers

[urban comet]

Wait I think she only fires 59 shots per sec using machine gun in FB

Cus that oneshot will be the attachment

[karmic night]

But that shot does 88% dmg vs 5.57%

[alpine hatch]

Ah yeah, it's short, but

It's two different weapons, essentially

[urban comet]

But can it crit

CAN IT CRIT?

Core*

Sorry

Drunk

[alpine hatch]

Won't matter cuz crit is bad

[karmic night]

Prolly its gun dmg

[urban comet]

Jk

[alpine hatch]

Hopefully core hits

[marble swan]

seems to explode on hit

nice dmg

[alpine hatch]

Yeah, animation-wise, it explodes still

[urban comet]

Will she bomb 3 Nikkes at once in pvp I mean shes shit there but whatever

[alpine hatch]

but I anticipate the worst, so I'm expecting the 421.22% damage buff to be the explosion animation

and no actual explosion proc damage

[urban comet]

She is just Alice in pvp sigh

Dead

[royal berry]

Any summary

[silver cradle]

Are we winning chat?

[slim olive]

no pack your bags i lost the house

[karmic night]

Shouldnt it be? They seperated the dmg numbers

[silver cradle]

[frail marsh]

fixed up Cindy with maiden finally

[karmic night]

Shes the strongest member of Counters squad atm

[grand rover]

Disappointed by that b1. Will there ever be a b1 to replace liter? I had so much hope this was it.

[alpine hatch]

Separated the damage numbers for the out-of-burst and upon-full-burst mechanic

[wanton sedge]

keep calcing instead of throwing shade

[forest helm]

but mod can auto them -. -

[prime heron]

what's boda?

[forest helm]

bsoda

[alpine hatch]

During full burst, the damage procs effectively at the same time

[frail marsh]

Bunny Soda

[urban comet]

XMidden will get shafted, better calculate their actual best team in raid: RH Grave Rouge Cindy SAnis.

[alpine hatch]

and they only buffed the impact

[frail marsh]

[frail marsh]

no

[alpine hatch]

Although I guess the burst buffing explosion radius implies it's still there

[urban comet]

You son of a -

[frail marsh]

my mom

[grand rover]

Nice lady

[marble swan]

mid

ernia

[urban comet]

Who

[grand rover]

Son of a nice lady

[urban comet]

So you have ever met his mom

[grand rover]

[wanton sedge]

harran isabel noah sw rapunzelpg

[grand rover]

Sounds perfect

[forest helm]

[marble swan]

hm

so 75% of mod

more

[pallid crown]

so scarlet dps

[mental gull]

he said

[pallid crown]

Backing to Rrh thread

[mental gull]

75% more than mod

[alpine hatch]

Confusing wording

[mental gull]

he finished the shit, he says shes more than cindy

[pallid crown]

I thought he thought about harran

[mental gull]

says gatrix

[karmic night]

He also said :cthrun:

[silver cradle]

Ok so lemme.get this straight

[pallid crown]

Gatrix calc means lappy 1:1 rrh

[silver cradle]

She turns into a B1 if we don't bring any?

[alpine hatch]

Yup

[silver cradle]

That's cool

[mental gull]

well at least u could say shes at bare minimum 2nd best dps in the game, best case could be 1st

[silver cradle]

[twin cedar]

Rapi is strong as B1 too
her buffs are decent + her personal damage is high
Using her as b3 is probably better though

[marble swan]

80%

[fast sun]

a b1 with atk buff and cdr, better than nuffin ig

[marble swan]

also yeah, 175% of Mod

[pallid crown]

[marble swan]

sounds reasonable in this 2025

[pallid crown]

yeah 2025 kit

[marble swan]

still deal 1 dmg on MC

I can guarantee

[mental gull]

mod is a 2023 unit bros

[twin cedar]

[marble swan]

anyway, long story short

B1: Mid

[fast sun]

launch pilgrim
I think she's the first new pilgrim released

[marble swan]

B3: Mid-ernia

with that amount of dmg

[twin cedar]

[marble swan]

you will probably kill Indivilla

Alice Rapi + Mod or Naga whatsoever

[wintry fox]

@rancid shore wakey wakey, alice creep meta dropped

[marble swan]

my assumption is that her S2 doesn't core hit

don't even want to think the dmg if it exists

[forest helm]

he went to bed after reading rapi kit

[wintry fox]

that much is obvious, no

[marble swan]

Alice pierce = Rapi if core hit S2, probably

[karmic night]

Mod is actually stronger than Rapi if you use mod with a 60 fps device and Rapi is used with a 10 fps device

[marble swan]

[forest helm]

anti pierce shield when

[marble swan]

at least I can guarantee you 1 thing

Elysion is now the easiest tower

[small meteor]

[marble swan]

with Phantom and Phantom-pseudo gameplay

[karmic night]

Why not? s2 is weapon dmg

[wintry fox]

s2 is additional damage tick with splash damage hit

[fast sun]

the funny thing is the strongest elysion nikke isn't even made by Ingrid
it's a hands-me-down abomination by merging pilgrim tech with a literal R nikke

[marble swan]

also

where's my Gacha Rapi skin?

they release the strongest unit ever exist

no gacha skin???

[karmic night]

Vote

[marble swan]

it's stupid Naga

[karmic night]

May

[marble swan]

[prime heron]

please don't tell me the entirety of absolute are going to be overspecs

[marble swan]

possibly

we are in 2025

time to get rid of the past

Shitlet pvp for example

[scenic bluff]

overspec is the future

[pallid crown]

Anniversary

Rapi nude segs skin

[marble swan]

when they say "Pilgrim is the best"

[pallid crown]

[marble swan]

Ingrid: Not on my watch

[brazen coral]

@marble swan show off your meth

I need those matrices

[marble swan]

it's public asset

[brazen coral]

I need exclusive Geytrix experience

[pallid crown]

Laplace tier

[marble swan]

I'm just like Blockchain

[mental gull]

gonna see a lot of ppl suddenly have the indi title w/o having the hands

go from no one has the title to the most mainstream

[marble swan]

[mental gull]

harvester the rarest

[marble swan]

watah dps

[mental gull]

[marble swan]

oh nice

so she's the strongest fire + iron dps at the same time

[heavy wharf]

that's a lot of powercreep in just 2 months

nice work SU

and fuck you

[karmic night]

It only happens like 3 times a year

[novel sun]

quick question: does her combat assist means she's skipping the need to use Burst I and jump straight to Burst II?

[karmic night]

Unless your doro

[mental gull]

u could just say if ur rapi is bad u r bricked in 2 elements

[novel sun]

this thing here

[wintry fox]

goddamn

@marble swan can you give me by % of how much more damage does cindy do in crown rouge s.anis team compared to rapi in her best team

[pallid crown]

[marble swan]

haven't made Rouge into sheet yet

😫

may be this weekend

but on the peak team Crown Naga she looks extremely devastating lol

[wintry fox]

her base gun doing so much damage for some reason

all she has is fkn 98% atk buff

[novel sun]

can someone explain what this means please?

[wintry fox]

on her base gun

[wintry fox]

she becomes a burst 1 unit

[novel sun]

oh so the buff just means she's a B1 (in that condition)

[wintry fox]

yep, she cant be used as a b3 then

[marble swan]

huh

[novel sun]

ty ty

[marble swan]

[urban comet]

It only depends on whether RH is considered B1.

• If yes, she can B3 in campaign with solo RH B1.
  • Good coverage (2 elements), strong ATK buffs.
  • MG breaks glass.
• If no, she can be B1 to replace DWife/Rouge in campaign.
  • CDR does not need shooting; can activate automatically. Good for certain strats in high deficit where units must stay in cover all the time.
  • As an MG, breaks glass. Can be used instead of DWife/Rouge when glasses exist.

[wintry fox]

idk what im doing but her base gun is doing more than her s2 or nuke

[heavy wharf]

yeah she cant replace dwife/rouge is a nice cope

[urban comet]

She is MG.

Can break glasses.

No need Mod.

CDR also doesnt need shooting.

[heavy wharf]

what i meant is

she's a lot easier to use than DKW

if you already have burst gen from RH

[wintry fox]

if rapi is good at mobbing itd be pretty hard to replace her

i mean, look at xLud

she isnt bad at all even if shes a plain MG

add some splash damage or what not and we got a really epic deal

i wonder what happens to the "attachments" if the rapture dies

[urban comet]

Doesnt matter

The attachment is useless

She is already strong without the attachments

[grand rover]

Who else is on the squad if you are running rapihood or rh as the b1?

[slim olive]

do we expect bombs to hit core or no? the impact, not explo

[heavy wharf]

Crown

and 2 more dps of your choice

[wintry fox]

B1 crown rapi b3 flex

[wintry fox]

I didn't expect them to core hit but reze and gatrix think yes

[heavy wharf]

i like rapi crown rh flex flex more, depend on the element

[urban comet]

RH Crown/Grave Asuka Alice Rapi for example.

[slim olive]

oke guess we wait for release

[urban comet]

RH Crown Cindy SAnis Rapi

[wintry fox]

If Rh is in team does that make rapi a b1

[heavy wharf]

yes

she's basically an offburst b1

[urban comet]

RH Crown SBS Alice Rapi

But if RH counts as B1, then Asuka is officially dead (or not as necessary anymore).

[heavy wharf]

funneling RH b1 to main dps

[urban comet]

[heavy wharf]

Asuka is not dead wym

[urban comet]

RH Crown (Pick 2 from Asuka Alice Rapi) Naga

[heavy wharf]

i dont do gaming chair

so my Alice shooting suck

i hate how we keep using gaming chair alice as benchmark

like it's an easy thing to do

[grand rover]

It ok new Asuka will come to revive

[urban comet]

My Alice sucks and I still win campaign.

No gaming chair.

Boomer hands.

@lilac wind can testify.

Or @swift thunder.

[heavy wharf]

what % are you playing at anyway

40% ?

[urban comet]

39-43%.

40-42% mostly.

[heavy wharf]

yeah that wont work at MC

[urban comet]

With non-conventional teams.

Who uses Alice against MC?

[marble swan]

I, for cp padding

1060k cp with her

[urban comet]

Brother, you used Laplace Treasure.

[marble swan]

still deal 1 dmg

[urban comet]

[marble swan]

[heavy wharf]

RH truly goated

Rapipi is a mere imitator

[marble swan]

weak B1

[heavy wharf]

i mean her being a b1 or b3 don't even make sense

[marble swan]

should give 80% ATK

so I can use her both ways

[gentle moon]

Give 80% casters ATK for 10s

[heavy wharf]

you can still use both holes

[marble swan]

why do you leave 1 hole open

[karmic night]

Rapi is better than RH in Elbussyion tower tho.

[marble swan]

[gentle moon]

Then it can be best cdr

[swift thunder]

It's easy to do, it's just u want to use it or no

[heavy wharf]

i dont know how

logitech G Hub doesn't do shit

[swift thunder]

My dream of free Kraken and Ultra clear shattered

[marble swan]

[swift thunder]

Why she not powercreep grandma