it should be final atk
#[Maiden: Ice Rose] New Unit Megathread
floral flicker
minor geyser
anyone have link to the icon used in the game ?
floral flicker
anyone have link to the icon used in the game ?
to what?
floral flicker
I am not sure if i follow 
minor geyser
for example i need the attacker OL head icon
floral flicker
ohh um
minor geyser
do you know a site where such tihng can be found ?
floral flicker
do you know a site where such tihng can be found ?
yeah there should be two sites
dotgg and uhh
nekochans site
they have item symbols and stuff
minor geyser
it's okay Snake, thanks for the help
brisk scaffold
it's okay Snake, thanks for the help
I found a lot of stuff from: https://nikke-goddess-of-victory-international.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Item_icons
Ignore File:Item and it should be in alphabetical order
minor geyser
thanks man
errant gull
No isabel gets treasure for ny and xmaiden outed
boreal moon
i'd say no
campaign walls also require cp
and investing xmaiden so she gets to be top10 cp-wise sounds expensive
and maybe not worth
tame veldt
misty yew
Where are xmaiden emotes
spring siren
glacial flax
how do you even aim maiden's burst
I swear it doesn't aim at reticle
I have never had it target a boss I was aiming at when there are mobs
errant gull
Oh its a pvp analysis, no wonder it look like text wall and not excited like the pve one
languid lotus
Because the boss is an ice dragon
buoyant mirage
Because the boss is an ice dragon
That's all? Even though she casts ice magic? 
lilac flax
Oh its a pvp analysis, no wonder it look like text wall and not excited like the...
I mean she's pretty damn meta for PvP
spring siren
Good battery and combo with dogo girl
lilac flax
- Better burst generation than standard RL
- Buffs a B3 electric burst with ATK (Cindy, Scarlet, S.Anis)
- Defender so tanky and works with biscuit
Very flexible and useful
spring siren
Nah I'm not using Cindy in pvp
lilac flax
So S.Anis doesn't have time
spring siren
use Cindy in my rank means losing everything
lilac flax
Cindy & Noise is underrated combo.
Noise gives Cindy a Max HP buff
spring siren
Cindy is poop
lilac flax
Is it just because of her low burst gen?
spring siren
If people put Noah or biscuit you'll lose
humble rune
Cindy is underrate combo
spring siren
Laplace eats Cindy in breakfast
spring siren
I tried, Cindy kek
lilac flax
At my level if I swap Cindy for S.Anis I do worse lol
Because that team has no survivability beyond Noise B1
spring siren
My killers are, midlet, Sanis and EmiRh
humble rune
Sanis
lilac flax
I tried a Biscuit S.Anis team but my Anis just died lol
humble rune
do you know on noise noah Sanis biscuit Rapunzel
lilac flax
Honestly I don't get the S.Anis hype, she dies to any team with an AoE B3
humble rune
rosanna will chew Noah/Noise?
Sanis is supporter, not attacker
Rosanna won't attack her
spring siren
yeah but she's not alone
Midlet is there
Also wtf biscuit in that comp
Gar0trix just woke up
lilac flax
Noise/Jackal/Centi/Cindy/XMaiden is my XMaiden electric team.
I guess I could try swapping Cindy for Midlet
humble rune
and Rosanna Midlet loses terribly hard against both 2 variations of 3 RL Sanis
unless you run 2 RL Rosanna Scarlet
spring siren
I'm using, 2rl scar, sanis maiden Noah dogo
Forgot who is my B1 there
then emi Rh and bunny
And pray
spring siren
I'm using, 2rl scar, sanis maiden Noah dogo
Its jackal
spring siren
Idol, scar, Anne, centi bsoda
floral flicker
Kill this thread
spring siren
humble rune
she is
floral flicker
I already told you, Ein is better in higher deficits
spring siren
She has
floral flicker
Prove deez nuts
floral flicker
I am never wrong so I am correct
floral flicker
huh I didn't say she was better than Ein
Well then she has no spot
floral flicker
Just build Cinderella
And go to sleep
Smfh
Are you even on behemoth yet
Have you even beat mc
humble rune
imagine being stuck in MC for 6 months
spring siren
humble rune
and planning ahead
floral flicker
fym planning ahead
It's same team used for both MC and behe
At best Ein out for naga
humble rune
I'm playing Capybara Go instead of planning
floral flicker
That's it
Focus on Cindy and anis
They aren't replaced
And now kill this thread
floral flicker
imagine being stuck in MC for 6 months
spring siren
Today I did overclock 50 in 6 minutes
humble rune
she's good as battery
humble rune
she's mid in dmg dealing
floral flicker
Stop capping
There's literally only 2 people who do PvP reviews and one of them is me
humble rune
she's shit in general dmg dealer because skingle target
Snow White deals higher dmg than her on first burst btw
Nicki Minaj?
floral flicker
Snow White deals higher dmg than her on first burst btw
Snowwhite isn't instant and doesn't have burst gen
Smhhh
Gatrix
Trolling again
humble rune
in term of dmg dealing
floral flicker
She isn't worth c7 anyways
floral flicker
I skipped rumani
:keku:
floral flicker
She's MLB now
Bruh
humble rune
huge boobs and ass, definitely look like Nicki MInaj than even Volume
my anaconda don't
spring siren
humble rune
floral flicker
<:WoCthBOOTY:915896957002739712>
Bro
spring siren
Wtf xD
floral flicker
Get out ๐ฃ๏ธ
floral flicker
how about Bay and Clay
Mid and mid
floral flicker
Mf prolly used her against Emilia like a dumbass 
Bay can counter xmidden actually 
Oh then skill issue
errant gull
I mean she's pretty damn meta for PvP
yea i just dont read nikkegg for pvp, they are pretty good with pve and its usually not boring
floral flicker
yea i just dont read nikkegg for pvp, they are pretty good with pve and its usua...
You don't read anyone for pvp
floral flicker
Invest in ||deez nuts||
spring siren
humble rune
that's what Munch and heretics said
not me
my 40% atk Rosanna kills Snake as her breakfast
floral flicker
Who tf are heretics
Not my first language
I don't care
Wtf
Why is S2 at 9
Bro that's like barely a DPS increase
Keep S2 at 7
Yes
Who else
Mf
No one
Surely we dont have 101010 on prydwen right
humble rune
are u sure
floral flicker
Aww hell nah
humble rune
floral flicker
We do
boreal moon
floral flicker
errant gull
you bitch
humble rune
I only focus on Godsuka
floral flicker
Ok let me check rq
floral flicker
the rest are whatever
Who wrote Mari review
Was it me
Do you have 4 ele 4 atk on mari
Do you run SW or Maxwell with mari
If not
You better like solo raids man, idk if it was worth it
I mean
It's a damage buff in the end
For who
What skills is she rn
Bro she needs a severe ol investment
For atk
She can't even kill now due to dolls
humble rune
Who wrote Mari review
next time use my strat
- 4: Free
- 7: Okay I can afford
- 10: I have to top up for this.
Then think, is this character's skill level so worthy that I have to break my bank for it?
floral flicker
next time use my strat
- 4: Free
- 7: Okay I can afford
- 10: I have to top up f...
Nah I know why I suggested it now
I understand it now
floral flicker
next time use my strat
- 4: Free
- 7: Okay I can afford
- 10: I have to top up f...
10/7/10 was the recommended investment
101010 was the high investment
floral flicker
Meanwhile mine still 7/4/7
That's why we lost top 10 last union raid
spring siren
I didn't use midri
floral flicker
I didn't use midri
Tiga?
spring siren
Crown, Grave gals
floral flicker
1 burst crown, don't need naga
You were on lvl6, no? It was one burst?
spring siren
lvl 8 and 9
floral flicker
I see
spring siren
you told us to do 300-400m that's one burst
floral flicker
Well Ur is now different anyways
spring siren
Yeah
floral flicker
Too bad we didn't get challenger in old version :3
spring siren
Prolly
maybe infinite life and max synchro not fixed
Max 800 synchro something like that
First raid, father whale, water weak
Doro back to meta raid 
thorn crane
someone remind me to reread this conversation after texas deletes his messages
gonna be funny
hollow rampart
So, i assume that... one copy of her is enough? Without any needs to raising any of her stars?
errant gull
So, i assume that... one copy of her is enough? Without any needs to raising any...
yes
fluid patrol
do you know on noise noah Sanis biscuit Rapunzel
As long as Rapu revives Noah
Noah P1 better to trigger Biscu otherwise can get instakilled
Otherwise thats the point
To save Biscu immune
fluid patrol
and Rosanna Midlet loses terribly hard against both 2 variations of 3 RL Sanis
Which 2 variations?
humble rune
first one, then Noise Noah Sanis Biscuit Jackal, the current domination in Rookie bracket
fluid patrol
first one, then Noise Noah Sanis Biscuit Jackal, the current domination in Rooki...
Tf is first one
fluid patrol
first one, then Noise Noah Sanis Biscuit Jackal, the current domination in Rooki...
I am sure I killed that with Scarja-
fluid patrol
read
Noah Noise SAnis Biscu Rapu?
Hell yeah that's better.
Lifesteal SAnis in my book is scarier sometimes.
humble rune
it works if Sanis can be protected during 3s invul
fluid patrol
it works if Sanis can be protected during 3s invul
Last team that team was OP was before Emilia was rele-
Then everything went downhi-
And LaplaceTr-
Well honestly
Tia Biscu SAnis Maiden Noise had the highest winrate for me on defense.
Before the Emilia days.
And LaplaceTr days.
What I mean is I have the highest winrate 3 teams combined not this one only.
It used to die to Scar and is strong against Noah SAnis variant but look at now.
LaplaceTr fucks Biscuit, Emilia fucks everyone, Cindy fucks everyone, Noah gets buffed, Scar fucks everyone, then we have dolls too.
It was somewhat Rosanna proof too since Maiden + Tia would get shot (except Rosanna + SAnis as Maiden is used there to protect SAnis from SAnis).
I think the Rapunzel variant might still work.
paper adder
baldsenix
spring siren
fluid patrol
@sage grove Your CP calculator forgot to change D11 to D16 causing harmony cube miscalculation.
Fixed.
@arctic veldt Found the issue.
Also @floral flicker.
floral flicker
Stop using an old version of it maybe
sage grove
Stop using an old version of it maybe
It's the new version cause skill multiply is thing I added latest
Not bugfix lol cause not many ppl like checking my tool lol
floral flicker
~~Not bugfix lol cause not many ppl like checking my tool lol~~
What is skill multiply
sage grove
What is skill multiply
Total multiply from equip effect + skill
floral flicker
It's the new version cause skill multiply is thing I added latest
I thought you fixed the harmony cube bug a while ago
floral flicker
Total multiply from equip effect + skill
On CP?
sage grove
<@520226693403770911> Your CP calculator forgot to change D11 to D16 causing har...
Which cell?
fluid patrol
Which cell?
You fixed already?
fluid patrol
I just used the one there https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bcn6cSZOqt_9UcV8162oIF5SezrPybZwRktTe0nh1S8/edit?usp=sharing in #research-results
Well new nikkes are missing so I assume its old version
sage grove
I know, I want to ask which bugged cell
fluid patrol
I know, I want to ask which bugged cell
In the ATK, HP, DEF
sage grove
Well new nikkes are missing so I assume its old version
Locale is dead so I more lazying on updating
fluid patrol
Locale is dead so I more lazying on updating
Sad
fluid patrol
Like Class_Weapon type
Some chars have diff stats
sage grove
Find, company too
fluid patrol
No like how does Rouge have weaker stat than Noise but also stronger than SMary im confused af
sage grove
Class decide atk and hp
Weapon + class decide def
fluid patrol
Class decide atk and hp
Weapon + class decide def
Is this really consistent?
fluid patrol
Can we actually reverse engineer it, aka find base stats from the current stats + equipment/bond/etc? But its gonna be pain in the ass
Or is that value listed in game?
fluid patrol
The problem is... manufacturer
How is that a problem?
sage grove
You can reverse completely
Cause I wrote down the full formula
I would say the problem is... rounding
lilac flax
In a way it's easier for meta DPS who you know is worth the investment.
4 rocks a reroll in hope of EM? Or only lock ATK since I already have one Max Ammo on another piece?
errant gull
In a way it's easier for meta DPS who you know is worth the investment.
4 rocks...
softlock 2 lines and reroll 3 rocks, this piece has ammo so it put less stress on the other piece which has ammo in case u optimizing it (assume the ammo will be less priority to keep at that point cuz you have it here in nice permanent slot)
2 ammo needed for comfy main dps in 2b3 team
lilac flax
Yeah but is it worth investing for a 2b3 team which might never be used
3b3 consistently outperforms doesn't it?
In which case ATK and Elemental are all that truly matter
Just one max ammo for her single burst at the end to make it through without reloading
errant gull
3b3 consistently outperforms doesn't it?
you should give yourself a way out, the flexibility to play at any set-up would be better, and this piece is the easiest key to fortify that strategy. Would be a waste to turn this piece into a 2 liner (Ed/Empty/Atk)
here is what happen to me on cindy
I wanted a 4 ed 4 atk 2 ammo on cindy (as optimal build for me)
the Head and Chest used to have 3rd line ammo, but i was cheap and lock only 2nd line to fish for the atk line 1 (cheaper i thought)
this Arm piece is lucky that it provide 1 ammo and its completed with atk/ed
but then now with the leg
i want atk with Ed, but now im forced to keep that ammo, which turns this piece into a tricky situation that im hesitated to fix
if the first 2 piece i kept the ammo 3rd line to provide a safe ammo lines #
i would have gotten cheaper option to fix the leg piece without worrying about the ammo
its still rare to get a good 3 lines, dont sacc it for cheap
lilac flax
Honestly I think I'm just gonna leave it as is and give up on fishing for elemental.
Too many other units to spend rocks on, if I ever find myself in rock surplus I can come back to it and lock both
errant gull
this is my maiden pieces(positions like in game), i really want the piece you have.
Now my Head and Arm pieces are forced to keep the CS since one is in desirable position and one is black 2nd line. These 2 piece now forced to get ED and Atk
+The head one will be expensive cuz its rolling 2 rocks for ATk/ED 3rd line
+The arm one is less expensive cuz its rolling 3 rocks for atk 1st line
However both these pieces dont have ammo, which putting pressure on the other 2 pieces
Now my Chest piece is super hard to fix cuz its holding the only ammo line i got
My leg piece can help this by getting another ammo
overall this is still a 4 pieces on fixing process (end build 4 atk 4 ed 2 cs 2 ammo)
yea u can leave it as it is but dont sacc it.
lilac flax
Yeah, soloraid made me tempted to rush for immediate short term gain
But instead I'll just leave her as is
Maybe one day they'll give us 50 rocks and I can come back to it
boreal moon
are people using xmaiden instead of naga for behemoth hard?
no healer behemoth sounds hard
nimble violet
are people using xmaiden instead of naga for behemoth hard?
I think with Naga is fine. That boss is easy.
boreal moon
yea but wondering if a well built xmaiden can make the cp requirement way lower than naga
comfy clear at 501 instead of 521 for example
errant gull
yea but wondering if a well built xmaiden can make the cp requirement way lower ...
maiden push team damage forward, so you dont have to fight too long in the zapping state, could end during that state
and might help with burst gen during rock phase
boreal moon
can you check global lowest cp behe clears?
boreal moon
2 years of playing smh
boreal moon
fly through map, hold left click on boss stage
boreal moon
at 34-9 malding, sbs no atk line
thatโs what you get for glazing grave
errant gull
OHHHHHH
boreal moon
errant gull
what healer its RHb1
fluid patrol
but then now with the leg
Keep save rocks.
fluid patrol
That is 1.2m not 1.15m
fluid patrol
what healer its RHb1
Rouge heals
fluid patrol
hold left click inside the circle
THAT WAS A THING????
WHAT THE FUCK MAN
can I get lowest CP clear for Mirror container pls screenshot
With Ein and without Ein copium
misty yew
Yes, you can hold left click on enemies to check stage info, you can also hold left click to create a UI's path dragging as well.
I know since day 1, because I played many gacha games
misty yew
can I get lowest CP clear for Mirror container pls screenshot
Lowest clear no Ein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rDRTSlD8rE
In my bracket, the lowest clear with Ein is lv 467, and I have seen the lowest power clear was 1,049,000, around lv 470 (outside of my bracket)
So you can guess the range: NIKKE needs at least above 1 million power and must have 4 Elementals on each DPS. Dolls should be max lv, use highest lv cubes, and, of course, max lv of gears.
LV Nikke would be around 470 for lowest clears.
Comp usually are Liter/Crown/Cinders/SAnis/Flex
That animator design path animation
I'm in SEA.
paper adder
misty yew
same reason with mine...
basically if the shop sold her dupes, I would use her instead of Liter.
Yes, Rogue is best B1 against MC
but the power downgrade is an insult...
errant gull
you idol 
misty yew
MC is so tanky, you need every % deficit in your favor 
errant gull
mcegan passed it
He took the cube off his cindy, thats 13-14k cp off there
Lowballed that yanni guy
Oh wow with Liter you can bypass 2qte and use all the time allowed hmm
boreal moon
man i thought it was mother whale for a sec
spring siren
buoyant mirage
Thatโs a lot longer than most eventually discovering this feature 
But donโt worry, your โWTF?โ merely added to the growing pile of others uttered on achieving Nikke UI enlightenment 
What happened here? I skimmed upwards but couldnโt get the gist
Ooh
RIP
Same here then, I actually thought Iโd have an easier Behemoth with her
I know I was playing bad but I had to resort to Rouge + Blanc in a Cindy team to survive and winโฆ with blue power
Oh I see, thinking back I know what I did wrong
Since Solo Raid is basically the same and there were healerless teams doing well
limpid condor
Anything Electric is too easy now
SU needs to cook something harder than Whale and Mirror
buoyant mirage
SU needs to cook something harder than Whale and Mirror
Like Behemoth?
Surely they will give Water bosses a break now
Fire bosses coming along with back to back new Water Nikke carries, surely
lilac flax
Fire bosses coming along with back to back new Water Nikke carries, surely
If NY is Siren or Camel girl then surely, both designs scream water element
I mean with no core what is Naga even contributing? Some heals? Surely XMaiden is still better for Behemoth
For slot 5
misty yew
Like Behemoth? <:TOMstare:1028608076602953749>
Behemoth is easier than MC btw...
you can clear MC hard mode, you are almost ready to clear Behemoth.
buoyant mirage
I have a feeling weโre taking Cinderella for granted
I think there will be a ton of Cinderella-less players stuck at Behemoth
Eventually
buoyant mirage
Alright, wait for MC and Behemoth in tower then 
humble rune
anyway, still don't know why they hold back so much in here
they went extremely wild with DC lol
boss has a debuff that prevents you gaining buff
boss has a debuff that consumes your next buff then deal dmg to you
buoyant mirage
anyway, still don't know why they hold back so much in here
Maybe it was rebound from MC complaints
buoyant mirage
How about Anomaly Intercept, any of them you'd consider not boring?
Kraken, Mirror Container, Indivilia, Harvester, Ultra
humble rune
actually most bosses in NIkke these days are pretty boring. I missed the time when you had to do wing glitch on Modernia
now it's just
sex sex sex
oops
shoot shoot shoot
buoyant mirage
Was wing glitch even an intentional feature? 
And was iframing an intentional feature?
I wonder sometimes if they even knew what they were doing with the game in the first year
humble rune
but it made the game so much more fun let's be honest
yeah you mention iframe too
the train dance
buoyant mirage
Balanced is Alteisen's middle name
humble rune
then Material H with stalling turret
now?
Behemoth rams you
MC tanks you
CC laughs at you
I can't do triple shot on Nvidia but I admired those could do that. Look very astounding
show me the clear skill gap
errant gull
Duh, isnt it obvious since the day Kim started his company with burning passion of hunting the most oil whales
lilac flax
I mean lets put it this way
outside of the one QTE between phases, how many bosses can be beaten on auto?
there's no skill necessary when an auto team can just shoot every projectile and slowly whittle the boss down
They've got the mechanics necessary for a skill based boss, they just choose not to
errant gull
For Xmaiden, at this point, her presence on story mode bosses is near zero. She just helps us make AI mc easier, but story mode is strictly requires Cindy>Sanis=Ein and their fellow supports RedhoodB1, Naga, Rouge,etcโฆ
lilac flax
Off top of my head,
Potential boss mechanics:
-
A single target attack which targets random Nikke and applies strong DoT if they don't cover (like Nihilister breath). Forces player to swap to whoever is targeted (indicated by the red flashing as per usual)
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More use of QTE circles which instantly fail if you hit them. Right now we basically only see them in the garbage fire of a game mode which is Co-op, provided only as a way for players to quickly escape the hell they don't want to be playing in the first place.
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Just more difficult QTE in general. Faster timers, less predictable patterns, etc. I'd rather a low HP fast QTE than a high HP one which gives me ages to kill it. Make the timer scale on damage dealt so far or something to "balance" the fight for newbies, similar to stages in AI.
Nikke mechanics which require manual control beyond "can you tap the screen faster than auto" 
:
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Supporters where manual control determines which Nikke get the buffs/defense/healing. E.g. "The next Nikke you swap to receives a shield/buff". Skills which simply will not occur in auto mode.
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Nikke who loses stacks everytime a bullet fires and hits nothing
If this was a better game we'd be trying to clear AI level 9 through practice but instead we're just resigned to the fact that what we actually need is more rocks & limit breaks
fluid patrol
Harvester
buoyant mirage
GFL2 has more brain in its stages than Nikke does
fluid patrol
Has an interesting mechanic
Problem?
People have no brain
Literally obvious that the QTE follows the gray pattern
And people are still too dumb to realize it
buoyant mirage
After 2 years, they do seem to be trying to make exciting battles
fluid patrol
Behemoth was a flop
buoyant mirage
Behemoth was more of a tech showcase, trying to figure out a mobile combat situation, first it was chasing a vehicle, then it was a bull ramming you
buoyant mirage
Considering Behemoth is water, why was there lightning AoE?
Everything screamed Iron
lilac flax
Crystal Chamber had the "choose your option" gimmick
MC had the "shoot these coffin things or fucking die"
Indivilia had the "auto won't hit these suicide bombers so you better" mechanic
Behemoth.... had nothing??
fluid patrol
Behemoth just doesnt look visually natural
Idc about mechanics
The visuals are just bad
lilac flax
yeah I feel like the Neo-Heretics are going to have a more Industrial Aesthetic, fitting with the black sludge they wear
lilac flax
which just isn't as beautiful as the animal aesthetic of the old heretics
fluid patrol
Just look at mirror container
The boss keeps going up and down
Kraken has wiggles
It feels natural
Then this fucking phase 2 behemoth just stands still
lilac flax
actually Kraken is a good level of skill for a boss fight tbh
fluid patrol
The background is fucking stationary too
lilac flax
at least on mobile, hitting those wriggling cores is a pain
lilac flax
instead of the usual static core you just hold position and watch damage go up
fluid patrol
Even Material H has natural movements
Behemoth is literally the worst boss in game tbh
Idk maybe SU put too much money in Stellar Blade
Or moved all the experienced devs and design team there
Man Id rate Behemoth visuals 1/10
Literally
Any designers would rate it 1/10 too when compared to other Nikke bosses
Bet
lilac flax
I was pretty disappointed
one of my favourite heretic designs
got such a trash boss design
I will say whoever has been designing the standing poses for new Nikke has stepped up their game
lilac flax
Behemoth & forehead girl with the black ooze
Drilley with the vibrations from her drill
Standing poses are way more dynamic for new characters
spring siren
I personally don't like leviathan, the worst design ever
misty yew
Idk maybe SU put too much money in Stellar Blade
They could have make a parallel chasing, like NIKKE get on a truck and Behemoth chase us, the bull have legs you know, SU.
Give us the thrill of being chase by a mad bull
lilac flax
I don't like her design overall
But making the black ooze drip and do stuff while she stands there talking is definitely a step up from old designs
just more interesting to have in the background while reading text in story
fluid patrol
They could have make a parallel chasing, like NIKKE get on a truck and Behemoth ...
Thats cool
Like gravedigger
Would have been epic
lilac flax
I mean my #1 fight cope is still different teams for each phase
how the fuck do we get in the air to fight Nihilister? Makes more sense to have a second team ready at the second location
misty yew
SU have a problem, they designed a boss that is too complex like MC, but goes too simple on Behemoth.
Problem with MC is how hard mode scale stats, which favor MC's mechanism a lot, SU can easily patch this by manually adjust the boss.
but no, they just give stages the same scaling anyway
misty yew
manually tune is the key
this make sure any complex boss design can be cleared without players smashing phone because of losing sanity.
fluid patrol
MC and Mother Whale have the best boss gameplay designs
But both have diff problems
lilac flax
MC's only real problem is the limited number of Nikke that can tackle it's gimmick
It's very Ein focused, I can see many players just dying from not having anyone who can deal with it's gimmick outside of Burst
fluid patrol
And both share one problem:
People are just dumb/have skill issue
For MC its overtuned sure
For campaign at least
misty yew
MC's only real problem is the limited number of Nikke that can tackle it's gimmi...
"It's very Ein focused, I can see many players just dying from not having anyone who can deal with it's gimmick outside of Burst"
You can say the grind is Einless
huehuehue
fluid patrol
A lot of endgame players actually appreciate mother whale as a challengingly good boss
lilac flax
Harran my beloved is only slightly shit
misty yew
Just manually tune MC and MW, simple
spring siren
misty yew
SU is too lazy sometimes...
fluid patrol
MW is perfectly tuned
misty yew
My ass
fluid patrol
It just shows people are noob
lilac flax
yeah I always liked MW
misty yew
you can borrow Noah or Crown, but it lock at lv 200
lilac flax
I hope we get more bosses with mobs
would also force me out of auto-burst
currently there's no reason for me to control them manually when it's just the one target
fluid patrol
People who play Nikke have ZERO PROBLEM SOLVING ABILITY
Sees Mother whale makes all mobs take 1 damage
Omg I guess im stuck here for a long time
The fuck
misty yew
Also, MC is worst than MW because it affect phone more.
fluid patrol
Give up so easily
lilac flax
Some boss mechanics could be explained better ngl, but yeah mostly on the players
misty yew
SU, we have pc NIKKE yeah, but the game is marketing as a phone game, there are phone players
lilac flax
I'm phone only, I get more annoyed my the minigames than boss fights
Landscape is fine
fluid patrol
Any argument related to "this game was originally made for phone"
Wouldnt hold up at all
They have changed the design direction
Since 2023/2024.
lilac flax
Meanwhile that goddess squad minigame with the turtle miniboss is straight up impossible on mobile
misty yew
fluid patrol
Not the other way around
fluid patrol
Yes its a pc game
misty yew
but nah, it's not a 'pc game'
lilac flax
Does PC have it's own launcher or is it on bluestacks?
because if the latter it's not a PC game lol
lilac flax
There you go
lilac flax
honestly I feel like most of the mobile complaints are overdone. The game doesn't require enough skill to need to aim on a 1080p computer screen instead of a small phone one.
fluid patrol
Look at the In the Mirror minigame
People dont like it
Either because they just dont like it which is normal
Or people think its hard
Its not hard at all
Thats the problem
lilac flax
It's just metroidvania
fluid patrol
People just have skill issue
lilac flax
also there's literally an easy mode????
like I struggled through hard mode for the challenge and fun, then swapped to easy mode to clear the shop / get the stupidly large coin amount quests
if people were dying on easy mode wtf
fluid patrol
if people were dying on easy mode wtf
No I would argue
The controls on phone suckaSs
lilac flax
I'm phone only, controls were fine
If I could beat it on normal mode, anyone should be able to on easy
in fact not only did I beat it on normal mode
lilac flax
I didn't realise you had to manually equip the equipment
so I did the whole damn thing without the equipment buffs
only realised when I was already done
rocky shoal
I did my first playthrough in normal mode too, but quickly got bored of doing the challenges on normal mode and activated God mode to do them quickly while I was watching a stream
outer onyx
Or people think its hard
how ๐
strong arrow
Nah, maincord worse
๐
spring siren
good for solo raid
And most prolly union raid (the new one)
Mid for campaign high deficit
spring siren
"I love pvp"
There are people who enjoy PvP same as people enjoy high deficit
glacial flax
Xmaiden buffing Sanis in pvp is a huge stretch
The tiny atk buff isn't gonna change much
errant gull
One of the sp arena def team snake made for me, over 3 day it held 33 matches and won 30 of it
boreal moon
look at this whel cropping out the core count
rocky shoal
molten urchin
probably core 7'ed her and too embarassed to show it
warped siren
momo got c7 maiden? 
errant gull
Bitches start attacking me like they sneak in their last rat attempt 1 minute before reset
spring siren
The S1 is meh, S2 7-10 and burst is ok if you wanna nuke after 12 MP
buoyant mirage
Just 7/7/7 for medium, I guess
Or 4/7/7
Or if never bursting on her / rarely then 4/7/4
At that point you might as well just stick with 4/4/4
daring sand
I got the perfect slots on the 1st reroll
Ammo better than cs
errant gull
fully built she can nuke like 70-80% last HP bar of MC
quick tendon
thought about asking this in pve team building but, does xmaiden slot into the cindy-rouge comp for sr or is she meant for a 2nd team? i guess my question is, is sanis replaced in that team lol.
warped siren
final skill levels are 10/10/7?
floral flicker
final skill levels are 10/10/7?
7/10/10
floral flicker
they're saying s1 is more important than burst but no?
??
Maiden's skill 1??
Are you sure you're in the right thread
warped siren
floral flicker
Maiden's burst is like 80% of her dps
floral flicker
https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/123021998
yeah
Disagree
Her burst has normal scaling, 1.69
It's definitely worth investing into
Again, skill 1 is just the max hp buff bro
Her burst is a DPS buff
warped siren
so it's 10/10/10 then
warped siren
Again, skill 1 is just the max hp buff bro
Her burst is a DPS buff
isn't it affect both s2 and burst
floral flicker
isn't it affect both s2 and burst
xMaiden as an offburst unit only bursts 1 time
Bursting one time means 90% of the game your skill 1 and skill 2 do not relate to each other
It's only when maiden bursts that she gains that buff
Let me just check out sky guide
Wait
warped siren
You can check skyjlv guide tbh
I also saw prydwen
floral flicker
I also saw prydwen
Kisenix suggests that if you want to build her as a DPS then max out both S1 and burst
We only have 4 slots to show this so he couldn't do a 7/10/10 -> 10/10/10
Which is also correct
Essentially she is a 10/10/10 character, but she is overall perfectly fine at 7/10/10
:3
rocky shoal
4/10/4 it is
thorn crane
7/7/7 it is
errant gull
im coping HARDD
spring siren
im coping HARDD
boreal moon
spring siren
boreal moon
most sane grave fan
errant gull
floral flicker
me when i just wait for +20 levels
errant gull
Grave shifts the burst gen up
floral flicker
Grave shifts the burst gen up
cant u literally wait
u like
this is last stage
theres no point of malding
ur core dust cant go up
your outpost wont go up
limpid condor
errant gull
im just cooking, fulfill the responsibility of a research lab agent 
floral flicker
no point in cooking air 
errant gull
floral flicker
just breathe and live free
warped siren
exia was far better against hard behe
spring siren
buoyant mirage
meta wallpaper for Xmaidone, only 1 pinne
Bedroom better
tawdry dagger
how does she compare to naga sanis
boreal moon
why do you go from sr0
opaque laurel
rocky shoal
why do you go from sr0
I stupidly gave her the doll during MC's raid because I wanted to see her doing a decent damage but didn't have enough mats
I regret it deeply
Never do that with your DPS folks
misty yew
We have been there at least one, no matter how urgent, it's not.
floral flicker
they fixed the crosshair issue
floral flicker
Is it good or bad?
obviously good
spring siren
vivid nexus
Why doesnt this work when 0 > 1 MP ?
buoyant mirage
they fixed the crosshair issue
I never checked this before, but what happens if autoshooting and Ice Maiden hits someone on the far right while you're manual controlling someone into shooting on the far left? Does Ice Maiden's proc hit your far left because obviously your crosshair is on that one?
buoyant mirage
Why doesnt this work when 0 > 1 MP ?
It works, it's S1 that confused you
S1 does (basically):
- IF have 0 MP, when team enters Burst Stage 1, restore 1 MP. "Burst Stage 1" is when you fill your burst meter and B1s get opportunity to activate Burst.
- IF have 1+ MP, when a B3 other than Ice Maiden bursts, restore 1 MP.
floral flicker
I never checked this before, but what happens if autoshooting and Ice Maiden hit...
not sure what u mean but sometimes it just used to not hit the nearest crosshair
i remember someone here talking about it as well
buoyant mirage
not sure what u mean but sometimes it just used to not hit the nearest crosshair
My meaning is mostly an academic question. It's saying Ice Maiden procs an extra damage on target nearest crosshair right, obviously it's what you're aiming at (or foe near it if you aren't aiming right at something)
But what if it's outside of Full Burst and you're shooting something Ice Maiden isn't shooting at?
I need to rephrase all this
Normal understanding:
- Ice Maiden is manual controlled by you
- You shoot an enemy rapture and proc the bonus dmg near your crosshairs
- The enemy you shot at takes the damage (crosshairs were on it after all)
floral flicker
Normal understanding:
- Ice Maiden is manual controlled by you
- You shoot an en...
yeah, this is how it is like now
now that its fixed
buoyant mirage
My question:
- Ice Maiden is autoshooting and you're controlling someone else
- Ice Maiden hits enemy on the far right of screen
- You're shooting enemy on far left of screen (so opposite sides)
- Which enemy gets struck by Ice Maiden bonus damage? (Your crosshairs is currently on the far left foe)
floral flicker
My question:
- Ice Maiden is autoshooting and you're controlling someone else
- ...
I
i am not sure
vivid nexus
S1 does (basically):
- IF have 0 MP, when team enters Burst Stage 1, restore 1 M...
Start battle
0 MP > Burst 1 you restore MP = get Ally buffs
Use your Burst
2nd Cycle
0 MP > Burst 1 you restore 1 MP = get ally buffs
Another B3 bursts > you get 1 MP = get ally Buffs ( total 2 MP )
3rd Cycle
2 MP > no free MP > No ally Buff
2 MP > Burst > no free MP = No ally buff
i see
floral flicker
might wanna test this out in shooting range
vivid nexus
My question:
- Ice Maiden is autoshooting and you're controlling someone else
- ...
It's
always
The shooter's Crosshairs
never yours
vivid nexus
Same as how Dkw is bursting on random enemies when u're controlling others
it's neer your Crosshair
buoyant mirage
Well, that answers that
buoyant mirage
"caster's crosshairs" woulda been nice too for clarity in the kit info
lilac flax
She has more legs as a regular B3 than I thought.
With Rouge definitely feels better to burst with her regularly instead of using S.Anis
buoyant mirage
Start battle
0 MP > Burst 1 you restore MP = get Ally buffs
>Use your Burst
2n...
Yeah. It boils down to this simple guideline:
- If you want Maiden to buff the team (except herself) almost all the time, never use her burst until the very end (or don't even burst her).
- If you want Maiden to buff herself (and not the team), which is convert HP to ATK, always use her burst.
- Can't do all the time, because she has 40s cd on her burst. RIP.
- Which means this will alternate between her buffing team excluding herself, and her selfbuffing only.
Despite this, the dmg procs save her anyway
The proc is very high efficiency
500% additional dmg procced on one target per full charge shot
languid lotus
Tattoo is back
thorn crane
tongue
languid lotus
she just doesn't open her mouth as wide when she talks
languid lotus
she lost it in her standing poses during story (until now)
glossy wolf
I didnโt notice that either. I guess I just have been looking at her other assets 
languid lotus
she lost it on the second day
so you would've noticed it for the first set of scenes
hidden quest
Start battle
0 MP > Burst 1 you restore MP = get Ally buffs
>Use your Burst
2n...
some day we're going to get re-enter B3 and someone will try it with xmaiden
misty yew
Which tattoo?
crotch
rocky shoal
spring siren
Tongue or croth? 
glacial flax
bruh
I knew I wasn't crazy
bitch was hitting anything other than the boss I was aiming at 
buoyant mirage
some day we're going to get re-enter B3 and someone will try it with xmaiden
Also the term re-enter is misleading in actual function. Turns out itโs really โretainโ
So stuff that wants reaching Burst Stage 1/2/3 wonโt retrigger off this, unfortunately, because you already reached the stage in question and the character you bursted with didnโt let you leave it
potent aurora
Which tattoo?
Above her crotch
fluid patrol
So stuff that wants reaching Burst Stage 1/2/3 wonโt retrigger off this, unfortu...
You can't prove this yet.
wanton fjord
how is she in mc/behemoth campaign?
some team like her,crown,rouge,cinderella sanis and replacing ein
or does it not really make a difference.
errant gull
how is she in mc/behemoth campaign?
Bad in MC due to the comp around her has no reliable slipper counter, Ein really need Sanis fot perma ammo and cindy non replaceable
Bad in Behemoth due to lack of sustain, Sanis better in destroying rock and u need Naga for sustain or RH to have synergy with Sanis and importantly burst gen from RH to overcome rock phase
Subject to change if someone actually pull it off i was testing behemoth 40-50k below clear cp
buoyant mirage
You can't prove this yet.
Makes me wonder if re-enter burst stage 2 lets Cinderella still proc the on enter burst stage 3
spring siren
Smh hard campaign pushers
lilac flax
I just used her to push two hard campaign chapters
Cindy/Rouge/XMaiden/Crown/SAnis
Probably not the best team around but served me well with 80% of the suggested CP
brisk matrix
she isn't
fluid patrol
she isn't<:clueless:1008474340905472080>
languid lotus
He can't try because he doesn't have her ๐
limpid condor
errant gull
no ammo left but this seem like a paindayo buff 
(no progress since last full burst 
)
errant gull
have 2 other piece
1 is locking cs to fish ed (same locking process and cost)
2 is locking ed to fish ammo (high value roll for same cost)
so thats why this piece i toss 1 rock to lucksacc it
errant gull
u greed for more, i greed for what i dont have 
languid lotus
My maiden still 72 ele after 15 more rocks
40 rocks, not a single ele, atk, max ammo roll
minor geyser
how's maiden dmg ?
sage grove
@fluid patrol Updated to current patch + fix cube bug on calc tool
glacial flax
what bug
errant gull
how's maiden dmg ?
if 1/2 of cindy damage = not brick 
fluid patrol
<@308926283482398720> Updated to current patch + fix cube bug on calc tool
Awesome thanks (even tho Im the only one using it)
minor geyser
if 1/2 of cindy damage = not brick <a:pepexmasrun:654268444967043093>
you edging with her and release all your load at the end right ?
errant gull
you edging with her and release all your load at the end right ?
no thats funneling, for bricked maiden
minor geyser
what's bricked maiden btw
fluid patrol
this maiden comp
Weak comp tbh.
errant gull
if maiden cant deal half dps of well built cindy = xmaiden doesnt meet the standard yet
usually all dps who pair with cindy in 2b3 need to have 1/2 of cindy damage
its very common
minor geyser
what do i use if i dont have exiaT
i was thinking of using RH with cindy and moral support xlud with ein/sanis
errant gull
idk i just copied and find this comfy and the xmaiden did quite well, make me realize my xmaiden is still brick
the exiaT has no good ol line so i lost lots of dps
errant gull
i was thinking of using RH with cindy and moral support xlud with ein/sanis
i tried this once-2
hard for me, dont find it comfy enough
errant gull
peak unit for non m san
make the xlud com very comfy
usually when burst hit ready, rouge still on cdr
so much burst gen
minor geyser
yeah her and asuka fill burst gen super fast
errant gull
like 3 on the left prefer idle full charge gaming
the other 2 on the right Provide burst gen for it
fluid patrol
like 3 on the left prefer idle full charge gaming
the other 2 on the right Provi...
I'm 100% sure there is a better team than this.
Though only Kira can cook.
errant gull
use your mod in guilo place
a campaign mod is best for this
my mod is campaign, no ele only atk, so gooood
barren patio
if Mod no ATK% line on that SBS + Alice team
i find more success with Priv in off-b3 slot actually, so Alice can go brrr
fluid patrol
if Mod no ATK% line on that SBS + Alice team
i find more success with Priv in of...
Alice 18 ammo cant relate.
Do you know that Maxwell is better
You see that.
barren patio
i have to ran maxwell on S.Anis Ein team, cuz i forsaken Exia+
fluid patrol
Charge Speed.