#[Guillotine: Winter Slayer] New Unit Megathread
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it's just one 2% copy


Idk why u guys would complain
We just got butt fucked by double meta pilgrim
So it's fine if they give us 2 b2b mid banners
I hope maiden is trash too
Maybe for u

You’re not pulling that ass?
Hitting that 1 copy is hard
Idc about her tbh
I care about face + boobs both
Who the fuck mileages rumani
When champs comes you will know why I did it
Her ass and bodysuit man… this time I’m going for the butter face

Bro's preparing the way till 2027
New update will be like: “removed champions arena feature”
I didn't manage to pull biscuit and jackal for 1 year and 3 months
bros just like me fr fr. No scarlet and noah after a year of playing for me.
Wishlist is a fraud
Yeah wishlist is whatever
atm silver mil doesn't exist in the game for a lot of vets
I already core maxes privaty and helm in Elysion, now I'm pulling for quiry copies on standard banner
Dwife, mpriv and whatever
Elysion is so fucked, even in wishlist

promisedl and
Yeah limited unit
limited and next opportunity to get her is the next year
If you skip her in 2 years it's over
If they don't care about those units why should they want a rerun of them

It's really just a simple difference in opinion
You think I want bay rerun?
Now go and ask in #nikke-spice-chat
Because is a chain, no xrupee and xanne rerun means no sanis and shelm rerun neither
financially, there are few to no reasons to not have a rerun imo
you dumbass
players after year 1 don't exist 
Omg so not og (I don't have xAnne or xRupee)
me neither
in a better world they would be slotted into random rolls
like the first xrup and xanne rerun
I am getting Maiden and nobody can stop me. I don't care if she ends up being trash
Imagine Maiden kit: own maiden than all your Nikkes will deal half dmg to raptures 
I was wondering how they were gonna do reruns of limited characters after a couple years go by and they add up. Are they gonna have past limited units all sharing a 1% chance? Are they gonna have like 6 Christmas/summer rerun banners going all at once
She is happy. That is all that matters to me. Let me have this
It's like they didnt have much foresight on how to do it once a couple years go by and there a multiple amount of Christmas/summer units
maybe she is happy because she got ingrid to increase her ass size by x3
Why is it that the gachas I play always have to have something that makes them shit in some way
Funny how this became more of a thread about people wanting maiden than praising guillotine

I'm a year and 3 months without scarlet.
It's different cuz scar never had a banner
And can't be wishlisted
It's true but I still despair
wait we got maiden kit already?
Noah and Rapunzel relevant in PvP I guess
where's this from

I hate the wishlist. I've been playing since March or April, had Viper on there the entire time. Still don't have her. And I can't justify to myself spending gold mileage for a non-Limited unit
Same logic as the cucks proudly saying that modernia shirt skin shouldn’t be rerun. They just like their fake “superiority”.
always gonna be those types of ppl
anything good for the player is bad idea in their mind
It's so they can show off in Co-op like what, once a month? That's the only time anyone else can even see it. Lame.
second accomplishment is defending the status quo no matter what (unless they're affected negatively)
stinky non-day 1 gooners, fk yall i got mine
oh my fucking are you kidding me
2-3 hours until maint and no kit
are they redrawing her or something?
unfinished kit
Intern-kun fell asleep at his desk, I guess
A promotion, maybe he’ll cook sth better
They really need testers lmfao
I think their approach to SSR welfares is a good compromise between day 1 and newbies tbh
and wouldn't be mad at e.g. Anni skins being the same
so next anni they give out a selector which gives you 1 of Modernia, RH, or the new unit
they know the kit is so bad, they want people to pull before they see the kit LMFAO
they both mid og og
2 sides of Nikke players
- Mid unit in 2024? Unbearable!!!
- Stop releasing meta units, I have no resources

The duality of man
or they can slow down unit releases but that’s
territory
30-35 units a year is not sustainable
3 mins for either maint reminder or the savior maiden kits
MAINTENANCE REMINDER BEFORE KIT LMAAAOOOO
Fuck that shit they got balls to post maint reminder but still scared to post maiden kits
christmas season, you get a secret kit
has anyone checked bluesky? maybe they accidentally posted the kit there
Was it you who brought up blue sky before here
no
Nothing
Guillotine is the latest post
This sounds like something that Heisenberg made
yeah, the site is financed by Gustavo Fring
already mt and still no XMaiden kit ?
Officially going mt without maiden kits
Achievement gained
i'm the goddamn nostradamus
ok who is going to build XmasGuilotine?
i need names so i can stalk whatever u post
so one copy and stop right
I actually think of it while brushing my teeth
- Releasing units slowly: Shit game with no update

so I guess, the unholy trinity of Nikke players
it's not very beautiful of you to pfft me 
anna
cuz she wants to build a snowman

whats the dps% of team drop in harvester if Xguilo replace Queency same build do you happen to know?
I know
ok and it issssss
it is high
10%?
thats high
if its not very high
and Xlud is guaranteed to be built
and Queency happen to be unbuilt
4 rocks each on both to test water could be good
Raid is Elec weak, XGuillo DoA
She shud deal 60-70% of qeq depend on situation
Idk what is the contribution of your qeq but lower it by 30%
but she tunnels Xlud
20-30% increase dps
Depend on your total ele buff, it can be 15-20% dmg buff only
vague jibberish number
this does still sound economically advantageous
aight people nothing else to see here

Fuck you elysion, thanks for nothing and sorry for everything.
fuck this backward ass shit
try to keep dark thing in the dark eden garden until update complete

Soz 
I think thats kinda the reason why only her buff look okay but own dps are not lmao
Maiden kits up btw
I ain't mad. 2nd anniversary hit me hard, so I can just get XLud and Maiden (depending on kit). I am SUPER SUPER low on mats for skills/dolls. Can't afford to invest in every unit
Finally, real food is here
Maiden kit posted
Maiden put
If I'm not a collector, I'd skip this unit ngl
Out
Literally DoA
Send the photo someone
Well she kinda want rouge too like cindy
She's bursting 2nd kind of unit
????
Fucking idiots
just fire the damn localizers, no one would miss those dumbass
Theres difference bro
Recover used cause its start from 0
Replenish used cause its start not from 0 lol
No the first one can only stack when mp 0
Its different.
still mlb
Bruh
yeah
She bad
Grab one copy for:
- An A-tier water DPS, since water is in a drought of meta DPS Nikke
- Our first Nikke who can have 100 stacks of something, in case a future Nikke mirrors stack count of allies.
That's about it. More than one copy is just a mistake.
But lobby wallpaper!
i really like her though
if my first 4 rocks on her net good lines
i might run couple harvester with her
if not just slot her into elysion situationally

Got a cool sword, cool loking, limited -> A tier. Fuck SU
her body got fixed 
so what's the current ranking of water dps?
xlud qeq
everyone else
Damn, is she actually that bad? I'm more interested in her than Maiden 
maybe put doro in the middle 
the math coming from resident nerds don't look good
i'll pull 1 copy though just because she's limited
She needs good water team, there's no such thing yet
Good water team won't save her
She needs a water DPS who either copies her final ATK or copies her stack count
Otherwise just take XLUd
rip
Phantom the goat
Xlud
QEQ
Emilia
Phantom but you play on auto or single target
Whatever left that I don't remember name
Poor Brid
where Rem
no longer a minecraft character
Vesti at least has tactical up coming soon™️
Sacrificed her hairsyle for power 
Who's QEQ?
Quency: Escape Queen

Just saw her shooting animation. wtf was that?
her sword supposed to be a laser beam sword or something?
So, the consensus is that she sucks?
Funny how first impression painted her better than Maiden IR but Maiden at least ended up filling Elec niche(even in its overbloated state) after testing
Both Maiden and Guillotine are basically B3 Elemental Damage supports
so it doesn't hurt to have a copy of them
But compared to Maiden Ice Rose, Guilltoine Winter Slayer a) has the worse weapon type for a support and b) her damage output appears to be extremely low until she hits max level
Also Maiden supports when she doesn't burst while Guillotine mainly supports when she does burst
so Guillotine eats up a valuable B3 slot
while Maiden can sit comfy as the slot5 buffer
Yeah it's really awkward because the other B3 would want to be buffed during its own burst
Instead Guillo is like here I'll buff you when I'm bursting and you're not

my 80% ele Cindy can only deal 1b8 on MC AI

do I need to fish 20% more to deal 3b?

She needs a water Modernia, Rei is the same kit and she's only viable thanks to Modernia
Emilia is probably the closest tbh? Since all her damage self-buffs come from skills so she can afford to never burst.
Why is she DoA
She is lacking in many things
Simple comparison to give you an idea, Winter Guillo is Assault Rifle, right? Look at Asuka and her selfbuffing kit
Then look at the numbers on Guillo's own buffing
I don't think that Winter Guillo has a more special basic attack than Asuka, so... RIP!
She'd need to team up with a massive water carry
(or the kit was a lie, and she wrecks every critic once she's out)
Yeah
Need like a SSS tier level water unit to ensure guillo is actually adding heavy damage
How’s prerelease verdict on Guillotine at this time?
looks at chest yes I agree
Super overpowered water attacker pilgrim on new year and guillotine is balanced around that copium

Let her die
Shift Up randomly makes up numbers and applies accordingly
Guillo got the short end of the stick 
Her kit is actually good. But the numbers look like release unit numbers (Brid, Julia, etc.)

hoping for an off burst hyper carry like Mod
We cant even test it but they already fixing something lmao
oh, stack effect works for guillotine now, bunny alice stonks?
Can't take both Balice and Viper tho

And Treasure Viper feels very necessary for Guillotine
As our best slot 5 water DPS
Like Modernia for Rei
At least it means they're testing her
Guess they learned from Cinderella 

I finished testing Guillotine, felt a lot like original Guillotine. ||Because it was the original Guillotine.||
are these 2 seperate stacks?
Same stack different ways to activate it

Not neutral 
Not sure how she's bad vs element considering she gives herself a fifth black OL line for free, actually 
Technically yes.
Loli
Kek
Well she is it
Honestly she's equivalent.
Both are roughly A tier.
Xmas is technically better just because Water has less S and SS tier options than electric 
is she a must skip
Looks like to me u want one copy of her at least as a support to xlud on water weak
Given she limited
If she's being compared to 2B, then, for raiders, she's a must pull 
For those who don't care about raids tho, there's no urgency
just don't save then waste rolls on Pilgrim banner. 
is she better than phantom?
Pause spam was nerfed so maybe 
Kidding, but Phantom is probably still effective if you're pretty good at hitting 3 enemies repeatedly really fast with aim strafing
Just wait for banner release + X days to find out if Winter Guillotine is good
Could be that both are used on Ely tower again water weak raptures, but with X.maiden around I don't think we are moving away from MPriv + X.Maiden for a while
how did they nerf pause phantom? 🤔
Can't spam pause anymore
There's a timer, ye
Short, but enough to last longer than two shots for Phantom 
I'll still use Phantom + X Guillo for mob stages
M Priv + X Maiden for bosses, ye
I can S8 without pausing 
Only a slight second if one is fast
Comfy enough especially since Cindy made it ez mode
you can still do single pause techs just not spam pause
Yeah pause tech for MC is just QoL
Yup. Phantom is the only one hurt
Although I guess Indivilia fight may be harder now; not sure if cancelling its jumps is possible anymore
Revision: XGuillo is not as bad as I expected but still not changing ratings because it doesnt really change her usage.
I overlooked something.
Just not scalable.
Best scales with Ammo (assuming S1 can trigger over and over even after cap).
my Phantom is strong, definitely stronger than a clumsy maid without whole ass SG Supporters

Forget phantom I still need to invest in Quency
I'll probably roll one copy of XGuillo and watch it gather dust lol
guillo be nice to me and I will mlb
I don't even have Phantom 
Savior banner after today’s reset? 
She arrives when story 2 unlocks
Guillo was nice to me and came in one 10 pull. Now i save
Only 10 pulls saved and shafted 
here is now showoff thread with bragging?
Does anyone have a clip of her lobby screen?
i should shortly
I wanna see if it's good, or really good
yeah
its kinda bad even with core hits takes 40-50s to stack her
with how many shots shes missing
I don't have phantom just scope testing with quency and lud on auto
but I bursted with her once at the end
That's sad

Oh, need a comparison to Phantom?
No ol ?? Sheesh
yeah
I guess it's my time. xD
scope only gives lvl 400 and max skills
About 75% of Lud's damage if both aren't bursting, it looks like
Time to throw 50 rocks at X Guillo 

surprisingly, she's closer to QEQ than expected (in that scenario)
but the buff for xlud is the big difference maker 
Better overall, it looks like
yea well
She gets a free black element damage OL line 
and shares that with water allies 
She can still heal and reload ammo when max lvl huh
She might stick around even as third B3 if we get a stupid strong water DPS
(1.16% * 11) + 18.75%
whats the quency/guillo or is it no ols?
scope lock 
you will know in 3 minutes and 10 seconds
nvm chose the wrong stage 
starting now
my dumbass skipped the intro unfortunately
Yep, ez money
Go test on harvester
Gonna test Phantom vs X Guillo in shooting range boss
My X Guillo has better rolls than my Phantom tho as a warning
Worse than QeQ and X Lud tho
if ya have the resources 
It's done
3 minute boss; water weak; scope lock; full auto
Near halfway point, even bursts
No joke, I didn't screenshot, but I got OG Guillotine
My SSR pulls were only Guillotines
what ols do you have ?
Sec
Phantom 7/8/8, +5/+0/+4/+0, 23.56% ele and 16.58% ATK
X Guillo 7/7/7, all +0 OLs, 62.25% ele and 40.91% ATK
Gonna do QeQ vs X Guillo with X Lud off-burst now
reference for those two
You have auto aim on though
Having it on nerfs your hit rate
Literally stealth nerf
I know
I tested it without right after
realizing it
40-50s with no sync no auto and boss jumping once
40s was with mod and noir buffing
Not bad, I guess X Guillo wins over EQ Quency when competing for partner with X Lud
Or like Kigitsune did, bring all 3
TFW quencyless
On scope lock 
Also, does hit rate OLs actually help Guillo
I'll do runs same as N3x without scope lock on and see if it changes anything
oh, I forgot to put cubes on X Lud and QeQ for the most recent screenshot 
is this xlud offburst?
Full auto gimps QeQ hit rate
Quellotine 3.531 bil
X Ludotine 5 bil on the dot
X Luency 5.2 bil
Quellotine, Ludotine, Luency 

for specs
40 atk 62 ele 
Question, is base guillotine better or winter guillotine
X Guillo buffs others and doesn't kill herself 
I ask cuz my alt spent 50 on her without x guillo but the gold mold gave me a base guillo spare.
So coping hard rn

No, next question is more fun than that 
I forgot Raon maths
raon's numbers are always assuming neutral element 
so xGuilo is still easy skip?
X Guillo useless outside of water-weak
Nah, one copy if you care about high raid rank
Otherwise skipping is fine
yeah neutral is ok at least we check how good a unit could works out of their niche
If you don't have QeQ, then grab X Guillo
I'll try Harvester next I guess after this silly run
Honestly shooting range sucks, we need more different bosses, no core core+part, no core but parts
Etc
Anomaly is ok but indivilia is not the best example of Fire weak boss
Either Ultra with its 26 seconds core shittery

Where are harvester run
XLud and SAnis were the luckiest, the others became ele adv DPS at best
I'm liking Guillo for Harvester tho
But is my own shit cuz I'm colorblind and it's colors don't help
I can manual X Lud and focus the boss while dealing more damage cuz of Guillo buffs
now i patiently wait for behemoth
AI can use Guillo to kill things outside of FB
So even for SR she has some usage? I was expecting not. Coz of Qeq, xLud, eventually Phantom and SG team
Well an Element buffer in my honest opinion has always a slot in solo raid
Everyone who skips suffers
Ye i want Siren badly and i expect her being water. Want save lot dupes for her. Thats why im cautious abt pull haha
i see thx
Need naga
I'm using Naga

S6 clear even though everyone died about 13s from end

If I use QeQ instead...
gotcha will pull. Her burst kinda looks like succubus too so its great xD
Yeah, if she's used, it's just to make X Lud more crazy
Otherwise try something like xguillo p5 flex sounds interesting
but QeQ's DPS when core is present is too high to make the buffs relevant
Lemme try no Naga supermald rq
Oh wow
No pausing
Got more damage

If I were to have paused for the mook targeting, I would've gotten S7

I’m too tired to carefully analyze, but I take it the consensus is going to be:
Mid
One copy for future investment in case water gets someone who can use her
Workable character but relegated to whatever water carry’s team as a 2nd gimp burst
At least she isn’t Summer Neon level
If she weren't limited, there's be no question of skip
And yeah, S Neon is a limited skip

water dps meta analysis:
Big boobs thicc ass = meta
loli edgy teens = mid
Phantom tho
Waiting for Siren being SR/ RL dps water b3.
UR team:
Siren - QeQ - xLud
phantom fate sealed the moment xmaidone enters the chat
But she's busty 
naughty boi
Just wait for swimsuit Phantom next year
Just wait for regular phantom because phantom is just allias for some nikke because commander says he recognized her but we don't know as a player who tf it is
Pin this




Aite so do I pull
Read pins 
Smhhh scope lock users
What stats is guillo
@wind breach
Nah I think that's genuinely a skip then :3
too weak of a water enabler
You'd rather invest in multi use units, right
Thank God. (I have 3k gems left)

How many pulls
Yk what, I'm about to fuck it we ball
20, im broke now
20 pulls away from hitting 200
I'm gucci
so she's trash?
No
Phantom powercreep
Matches phantom in DPS but since she provides buff to water allies she is better than phantom
Fucking hell man
It was an expensive one copy
Very expensive
100 pulls
1 crown, 1 drake, 1 frima, 1 guillotine

elysion tower stuff
Thx for reminder, added maiden
I still recommend skipp
She so mid
So is she truly dog shit?
🐳
Smh almost pity
Me 90. 1 epinel 1 xguillo, I am doing my best to stay numb to this
Btw I guess people are either skipping her or just don’t wanna build her right now, would be a while before actual testing results comes in
NY pilgrim op water dps that needs xguillo fr fr
Actually long time not seeing a new Iron dps
The last one was bsoda
Almost half year
or even more I forgot when they pulled her banner
Thankfully she only took me one 10 pull, so I have no regrets whether or not she ends up being used
we get a new water unit before next water raid anyways
why even pull guillomid 
other than for collectio
n
They hate Iron, so many Dps
Its possible the next water unit is support and winter guillo somehow synergies with her niche mechanics
guys should I get x Ludmilla for Guilo too
I cant read
you can't read chat too then 
damn its like every christmas unit is garbage
shift up devs hate people getting jolly
they hate money too
maiden is quite good tho
wdym they hate money

you can't expect they keep changing meta every update right?

53 rocks 
Is she better than default Guilotine?
She's a different element 
But yes, inherently better than Guillo cuz she's a buffer
If we get a busted water DPS, we could see X Guillo become a leech like Alice to SBS. Meanwhile OG Guillo does nothing for team
where the hell do you keep getting so many rocks
that you can throw them at random units all the time
not that many
and buying rocks with real $ is wasteful. at least you have mileage when buying pulls and unlucky. if you’re unlucky with rock spending, it’s 
hmm, iirc, there is a 30-days resources package that give you selective resources.
does rock include?
custom packs? yea there’s rocks in those
he is a whale then
I'm a minor whale, ye 
But I also didn't put more than one rock into Maiden and didn't OL Flora
So that's just what I've passively gained from AI since last banner that mattered
Haven't bought rocks since anni, and all of those went into Grave
Kind of irritable with Nikke atm so not spending
I just checked the 30-day package doesn't have it.
And the price of rock is in 10-11$
They are giving you 5 rocks on the 55$ bundle now, fuck that shit
Give me my 1000 blue mats back 
Custom package gives rocks, not 30-day supply pack
Well, from my gaming experience, any enhanced materials related to RNG stats are always pricey...
Then there's monthly 12 rocks
oh I see
She is destined to be gimp by her own character development 
She is so cute I wanna pull 💀
if there’s some kind of ol line pity system yea maybe I’d think about buying rocks with $$ depending on how merciful that pity is
but otherwise, nope
I knew it
Obviously for next water raid:
- Siren + QEQ
- XLud + XGuilo
Isnt it obvious
Smh
Noobs
I don't believe it's going to take that long for a water-weak raid
Her IQ is already too low, she can't afford to sacrifice some of it to increase other attributes.
She wasn't given enough starting advantages at character creation 
Unlike Ice Maiden who got to generously increase the sliders
Still recommend to skip xgulo?
I'd like to know too
If you are not a solo raid malder just skip
Or if you FOMO just get 1 copy for collection
I left her at 7/7/7, not sure sure what skills to 10
Don't 
Or if you really want to get one skill to 10 at least wait until a water weak raid
X.maiden already has Mpriv and normal guillo for Elysion, so there is really no use for her outside of water weak stages on ely tower
XGuilo needs strong water Nikkes to be effective, and there are only two.
Are you ready to put XGuilo in Team 1 ? 
if you need a water carry now, xLud
perhaps future rate-up before water weak raid
xGuillo is a skip considering the current meta
I already MLBed xLud
so I'll get a copy of xGuillo for collection
lowkey, xGuillo doesn't even scale with QuencyEQ
QuencyEQ already has hella ATK DMG
so it's only the 30% ELE
and xGuillo is only with xLud
cmiiw, I'm just talking sht
XGuillo is Siren cope at this point
She doesn't have a friend among current Nikke
True to lore
The only reasons to pull are collection and cautious investment in next year's water meta
There were people who skipped S Helm cuz her DPS is non-existent and regretted it greatly
Still is considering both DKW and Rouge are hard meta 
almost fumbled hard skipping Rouge, wishlist came in clutch
never again
skipping CDR back then is crazy
Is she good
She's not bad
but she's not noteworthy either
She could end up important if we get a busted water unit, or she could be left in water-weak T5 obscurity
Rouge from standard banner during Behemoth raid,
in about 100 pulls among other SSRs?
had to pour everything to OL both Cinderella and Rouge in a day
almost bricked
but 3% saved, so lesson learnt yet not punished kek
||perché lui e quasi nuovo, non c'è la fa a faticare top 200||
||io sono top 100-200 è quello che posso come f2p||
kwason

I forgot Einmaster is part of those who monthly change their name
I know who him is, he used to use a helm pfp
don't you do that too now with the xmas name

Who does that
Ain't no way
says fucking you
lmao
500 gazillion variations of facundo

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breaks spaghetti in half
why did i get this chunni instead of more maiden copy 
You were hypnotized by the stare of the One Winged Dark Lord
Aite bro, #lore-archive #nikke-spoiler-chat
I recommend you delete your msgs before I do
:3
Or just ask if u want the text I can copy paste it to you
xguilo is basically rem, bait for a potential future that wont happen lol
What up with cute NIKKE try to bait you in building water team 
Water, the bait element
It does!
Well thats cus auto missed
True
how the hell would auto miss that big ass boss
i guess armstrong has such a slim waist
the core
X Guillo also has terrible dispersion it seems
what's dispersion in nikke
oh, dispersion is hit rate
TheMoreYouKnow
why so many terms for accuracy
with nothing to aid hit rate in her kit
she'll need 2-3x hit rate lines
to consistently core hit in medium range
but at that point
why not just spec into ammo
SU themselves know that AR(&SMG) have hit rate issues
even Grave has guaranteed crit to lessen dmg loss of no core hit
slight oversight on xGuillo kit to make it truly coherent
the only difference between AR and MG is hit rate and fire rate
while making Scarlet push the 60FPS limit seems fun
removing the identity difference between weapons isn't a good change
Sure but making a weapon bad then investing a significant portion of a character's skills into making it not bad is also awful
that I agree
but ideally the advantages of reworked AR/SMG won't overlap with other weapon types
bullets with slight homing 
Every 20 bullets activate a powerful curve shot (like “wanted” movie)
ARs are supposed to be the versatile weapon of choice
if MG falls off without core
then AR should be the weapon type that doesn't need core to excel
raise base crit to 0.3 and crit dmg 2.0
or Wanted bullet, that's just badass lol
That was correct during midlet kingdom age
Ah yeah, sorry. Hit rate controls how much or little bullets stray from crosshair, which is also know as bullet dispersion
no worries, I know it from other games as bullet spread
Eh nah
In games
Its often called
"Spread"
But its formally called dispersion
I usually only use "spread" for shotguns 
Doesn't feel right for weapons that fire bullets sequentially
wait wait wait
so what's her skills
4/4/4 7/7/7 10/10/10
?
4 ele 4 atk 2 ammo 2 hitrate
Do her levels count as stacks? Like can you bypass her exp mechanic by increasing her level stack directly with someone like Pepper?
You increase her exp, but you still need x10 to level up, it was addressed on a notice even before she was out
X.Guilo is good
(for water SR)
imo, she's actually good.
X Guilo is on par with(or possibly better than) X Lud for Water SR depending on the boss's mechanics
ofc X.Lud is better because she can be used in neutral raids though 
X Guillo's main pitfall is lack of a hyper carry in water
If Shift Up ever decides to give us one, her stonks will rise and those who skipped will probably feel the pain
There's zero point to dumping resources into her now for those who own every Nikke
by that time, SU will already cook another side bitch to go with that hyper carry already
like how they made xmaiden for cindy
lmao
You could say, X Guillo is LFG 
But Rouge is there, too

Cinderella has two sidekicks 
So she is still team 5 in solo raid water weak?
She is good in coop









































