#[Cinderella] New Unit Megathread
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Or pull for Grave because she’s currently pretty strong in fire team
they should've given cindy projectiles auto-tracking like emi
oh yeah
also
is it just me
or did the projectile flight path look very wonky now
I swear it used to be more or less smooth arcs
now it's all jagged
it seems they fixed aiming issue by rolling back radius 

damn
so is shift up confirmed dumb?
yes
if a future unit ever gets a special new mechanic (prob next anni), put on your doubt glasses
unless it's an easy mechanic to implement (like omni burst), have expectations it'll be buggy as shit
they're proved to be incompetent in day 1 in terms of programming shits
wasnt that part of the problem?
the proj size was so large it'd hit other shit b4 hitting the core
Yea now it even go out of screen and the there above trajectory too not just left and right lol
I feel like this is for when exploding with obstacles if it just left and right but now it feel weird lol
The curving is so big too
3rd line ELE is so worth
Okay thanks, I'll risk it then
element dmg huge priority
First time i'm really trying to seriously roll
lock ele reroll for atk/ammo/crit
naise

if you REALLY want to you can reroll for line 1 atk for super optimal lines
but otherwise that's good enough
definitely reroll attributes now if you want
now give me rocks as payment for this advise service 

That was good advice to take the ele 3rd line

what the fuck 
Just need to manage ATK on the first slot then you're golden
alright now definitely pay up those rocks for advise 
Crit Rate not even bad, either
Probably sit on that gear for now and focus the others
yeah get that 4x ele if you want
so if I'm understanding correctly, base elemental advantage is 10%
so getting to 90% means cindy is doing lit double damage
pretty much

I would but I literally used all my rocks just now
93% elemental damage before cube or base advantage
Fuck water based raptures in general ig
Lmao
That's some insane fuckin luck on getting those 3 slots and good ones at that
quick honest question
how much is x% better is mlb cindy vs base cindy?
From this thread morning yap
No, cus cube
cus cube?
i'm saying I have 93% before cube
wouldn't cube push me over 100% additional elemental damage or do I not understand how ele damage works (extremely strong possibility)
The usual 4x ele, 4x ATK, with at least 1 ammo and crit chance for the rest
unless you want more comfy, then 4x ammo
it's in the screenshot that was just posted
3x ammo does feel nice
ty
At x4 ammo, Cinderella too can play with one hand 
Kisenix: “not that useful since team buff will affect differently”
Snake: “lets move on to Grave”
i have 0 rocks all 90 gone still missing 1 ele line and 1 ammo like I give up
In that case my cindy is bricked bruh
Not a single crit chance
not bricked at all
crit is BONUS
even ele is BONUS
cinderella herself only requires 1 ammo at the very minimum to continue shooting through a full burst duration
oh
however to optimize her DPS you would want 4 ele, 4 attack and as the screenshot of the spreadsheet shows followed up by crit rate/crit damage and then charge damage
but they are ALL very minor versus ele and atk
blue ele line
and 3 atk rolls lol better than most
Your Cinderella is mostly fine
So question: Did the update fix her targeting?
I haven't really noticed much of a difference, but I was using the harran charge stuff
had nearly 80 ammo 
somewhat
Ele/ATK is just numbers always
it's apparently tied to FPS
Never required for the unit to function
Only 1 max ammo is necessary to prevent her from reloading during burst
so 60 FPS = good core hits?
Obviously numbers are good, but you aren't bricked without them 
she is hit core better for me since update
get the modules for this and you can clear all stages from safe distance
reduces cooldown to 3s and makes it homing and very long range
and it goes throguh all walls

Yes.
so laser no longer will get stuck on boss missilies and other objects they throw at you? 
They just need to make sure midaspay works and our gacha skin money gets transferred properly. The rest they can’t give 2 shits about

wdym I'm skipping her skin
facts i wanna look at cake
I just like the lobby
A fool and his money are separated quick and I’m a fool with a booba gif
She's missing all the core hits at near attacks

Nah I'm out
this was enough for me
I'm skipping skin because I wanna keep her more heretic aesthetic with red eyes and shatter burst animation
Villain aesthetic > whether or not cake is still visible
you got the math for sbs in comparison?
that @lavish bridge 's math
i just yoink
if you calculate 2B, I guess it's gonna be similar to cindy's?
maybe
actually no
2B only leech from mast
while cindy leech off rouge + crown + sanis
isnt 2b best team with rouge crown asuka/rei too
or smthng
with bolume mast 
more cindy definitely
Yep 2B core damage gonna stonk with Asukaaaa 

if she has
more grave copy is just more of her personal dps
maybe
i only did bolume mast 2b vs rouge blanc 2b rei or something
and i didnt wanna do it again cuz it was awful to calc all the ramping up and down

u guys complained too much they brought her back to square 1 now
they reverted her shot radius
her core hit rate is still eh after all the changes
something like that from what I understand
Radius and accuracy when with moving target back at release lol
she still miss core at all range when anything move 
shes far sighted
Mirror container up and down miss too

this is why you turn on damage number
wrong thread 
oh i just counted ammo, its 38
no reload ?
no
bastion
1 reload at the end ig
with 4 ammo i can definitely cross 40 
yup
he's using the french pastry technique
butterfly 
with 4 ammo can definitely go a full mag without reloading
but at the cost of alice not participating in next burst gen

do u need it?
should i mileage grave or send in the 50 pulls i have 
with grave
u dont need alice
for next burst
lok
lol
lemme just spend the 30 tix ig
hey
got SPOOKED TWICE in one multi
maxwell and biscuit but no grave
no youll get banned noo
its very team dependent
i tried with alice sbs priv team and you definitely need alice burst gen lol
im not kidding btw
what's cindy's dmg gain per core again
1.8% or smthng
scroll up
cindy gacha is so overrated
Cindy doll SR10 to SR15
Ein doll SR6 to SR15
today, and still do same damage after 2 bursts in MC 
thats not possible wtf
yeah
not at all
there is literally 0 performance change for cindy
just play, consistently 800ml damage after 2 burst
electric weak stages 
i got clip before today too
i would assume its
cindy s.anis ein
oh wait
its
crown cindy Liter rh s.anis
i think?
no not naga
i'm sorry i don't speak john cena
stats from core are % boost rather than flat right
Cindy Liter Ein Sanis Crown
do it

horn dmg is shit
do body dmg
from the vid above
Cindy did 700m dmg
wanna know how big it is?
trasition away from ein now
oof
Cindy solo body dmg
Its 4000 years of chinese theorycrafting

what in the world are they saying
calcing my cindy at about 1.5% dmg increase per core (assuming 30% atk from sources)
my cindy also super hard to fix 
my C30 run required 7 horns broken kek
YES
?? obviously, any electric boss cinderella is just BETTER
u sure, Rouge could 
cinderella is just simply a god tier dps
and giving her ele advantage will make her INSANE
look at this acoustic fella changing name and pfp again
yeah rouge can break
no Rouge fin in MC AI is easy
you need cracked rouge but she can do it
Rouge Fin in C32 is different question
ok man
C32 is different true
because Rouge deals 1 dmg there
lmao even Naga deals 1 dmg
build Laplace to ignore fin

but with Ein and High Decifit, you will eat glasses all day and Cindy no longer provide protection with her large projectiles (its small now)
total ufkcing genioues 
loose damage

like i got a free anti-glass ytd
now i dont have it anymore
wtf
gib back
yall gotta kill this thread bro
this bro is solved
cindy should beat them
go do it texas
i just told u
crown cindy rh s.anis liter
easily clap with better Cindy, just fix her cuz u still use her in next 3 chapters
dont fix alice no more
no Atk too
it is the proper burst placement
rh -> c -> cin
rh -> c -> anis
and then, repeating:
liter -> c -> cin
rh -> c -> anis
cuz in case u use Cindy-Sanis pair dps u need Cindy to break fin
yeah
to not give anis the ammo buffs
go watch video above that momo sent
also tistree got global record the same way
cook from global 
all campaign tc comes from global anyway 
except some stuff comes from cento ig
ban him
SEA> Global

nalaniko solos sea
I cleared C30 before they fixed Cindy attack
I can tell you, it's not a good experience

so many random QTE broken
till I said fuck it
I chose -30% ATK
free win

body dmg is huge
pierce is overrated
mark my word
don't, you won't be in record anyway
should i overload grave or reroll cindy or alice
what does grave need anyway
if u dont ol grave she wont outperform mari
nice
wait for my cook this weekend
i have 4 rocks
do i ol grave or nah

how is ein overrated
she's been S forever
oh
yeah its shit
I dont like gal bitch
So she's overrated for me
🚮
hater
seems like it
Lol
Cindy pepega aim is lore accurate
In the red ash it is said that she shoot her own glass slipper then it reflect the damage to everything nearby
must pull
It may be the reason why it doesnt hit shit
they take in both high and low deficit in consideration
But cringe pros and cons
so alice with and without ol is considered

Anyway. She is strong. And you like her so just pull her
She is not bad to the poiint you have to question your loyalty
prydwen low deficit
thats why u cant fuck?

Liter still number 1 in year 2
You have Liter and RH
make her a pilgrim at this point
But you want to use Dwife
may be we need Gallon soon
Pff


stop thinking
they changed NOTHING
You expect a rapid RL firing small beam can give high burst gen at 1 fire only ?
Nah
That's unreal base on logic
Well you can spend a whole day
to invest, finding comp on PvP
Then a random guy with 50+ sync higher than you
Just destroy you easily
Congrat
You wasted 1 day for nothing

my fucking god i just realize this Grave fellow is just Snake
he change his fucking name again
make a thread to change his name back
wait does rouge crown beat liter crown for cindy
what's her skill priority when buffing cindy
How much investment do I need
thinking about resetting doro a bit to get back some books 
her dmg isn't good even in water-weak since no OL
hmm
Zygaena overtook lowest T674 (2-3-2 Bronchus) using Nalaniko cook with Rapunzel, Hayde cant go lower due to RH Cp @toxic wren
taking all my cube out to lowball with 3k less

What are the chances we get another cindy fix
Just ask the boss to not move
Material H?
wait a minute 
full electric for all 2-3-2 Tower Bronchus

Cindy normal attack seem very good now 
how do you handle the first FB?
just cindy it
im stuck at that stage too
everything just gone
I will never leave doro
gonna try to use cindy
10s only to reach 3 Bronchus seems hard
it goes like this
Using her for everything
i burst second RH and wait for Crown for 4-5s
2 Bronchus + Mono Eyes
Thief + Mono Eyes
3 Bronchus + Mono Eyes + Petal

I guess the problem is how fast can you pass 2 Bronchus
yea
How do people lvl 500
yeah but dont wait RH burst
I am 270
just burst it to kill small mobs
nah Nalaniko will 50-60k lower
Max story is 34 right
huh
you burst 1 with Red, how can you not wait her lul

new screen wipe comp ?
just need enough damage, not overkill

its based on the Eva Mod comp
is that stage electric weak
yeah
okay overrated
like most of them are electric
need to test on neutral too
only 1 is weak to water

Neutral Alice Asuka Rapunzel topped over
i think Alice Asuka can just clear this, but somehow only see 1 guy doing it so far

I am already feeling that

And Snake is still actively defending her
Mod doesnt have enuf atk
Very very reliant on 3-4 atk OL + hitrate
Her real problem is 15s full burst, it will fuck you up sometimes

And last 10 sec doesnt feel that strong
lowball loaded ready to fire
I just switched to RH SBS few days ago with 400-500k CP deficit
feel much comfortable
^

you don't even understand wtf he's saying lul

sometime its good 
I was not using Liter
I understand
worse than Laplace
Yes
RH Crown Naga Mod MW
oh yeah 
Yeah Mod damage too spread out its not the 15 FB
U cant kill the mobs fast enuf but u also cant kill the elites
Maxwell? Are you running Yanni comp?
Usually the strat is either way
the elite is easy
But if waves are tanky then im fucked
Mod is in the middle
wdym Yanni ?
I have been using this since RH comes out
It means 1 year ago
Stage 34 hard?
Basically Mod destroy everything, last elite MW burst then boom
But when the waves are tanky that Mod cant kill all, then I cant end the stage with 2 burst
The new fly fucker things
Have to switch to SBS
Shino has very strong Iron units, which most only have RH as good and not Mw
In other accounts I play hard
Yes
highest was 500k - 550k or smth
?
Whats the most common team in ch 33 34
I know Asuka falls off in non fire
I need to prepare 60 syncs ahead

the schedule is to go to c33 today but cindy got nerfed so i cant
I just know SBS burst destroy all dancing flier at 1 atk
Dont know who's better than SBS at that point
Why didnt u tryhard 
I warned everyone
She would lose damage

I actually wanted to make a vid and post it
So people mald yesterday
But I decided not to

I guess it backfired

I always make the worst decisions goddamn it
From destroying my SBS
!mute @acoustic field spamming weird emotes
alice
Cindy
My rocks
My gems
My pvp
My liter
My economy
My real life money
Mt life
Guys we have a lurker
@silver plank
hands up
🗿
the wheels are spinning ~
did you abuse her with charge dmg?
snake said she is identical to before fix so i trusted him
Alright, I just online, Are all her bugs gone?
not 10%
yeah, but charge damage is nerfed
She's falling of when I can't 1 burst everything until elite
bro mod is a pure NECESSITY in campaign
she cant fall off
Or the problem is I was playing with lv4 burst on Mod
I know she's still strong for low - mid clear
But when I tried RH SBS I feel much better

Mod will be fine until someone powercreeps her as a B0 DPS
Tbh one of the tierlist sites needs to add a "B0" category for Nikke who are viable without bursting.
E.g. Maxwell or Xlud as B0 supports, Modernia B0 DPS, etc
LOL it's a specific stage
yeah but theyre often enough
Rapunzel still our best B0 healer I think? Although arguably BAlice falls into the same category since her "burst" doesn't take up a slot in the rotation
mod can push through 30% deficit on any stage
she is a true sss tier unit
she cant fall off if she works
Snake has been extra yappy since his name change
just look up lowest clear for latest chapter 
#1299716154125713549 message
Waiting for updates 
I know I know
But when I cant 1 burst Mod everything before elite
I feel her so suck

Had to swap out mod in 31-35
31-35 is not a good stage for mod
typically low clear running RH-Dwife continuous burst 2dps

omg hi
did u try out grave
on grave??
Yep
good luck
Hmmm
Gonna need Snek pre anal-ysis @toxic wren


Grave + B3 < Crown Naga on Indi for real, core dmg is crazy
Skill reset is still happening
so how's the consensus after the cindy fixes?
core hit issues partially fixed, burst dmg slightly nerfed (depending on how much charge dmg you got)
overall.... about the same?
nothing substantial happened
still buggy

Yeah if u have some charge dmg on OLs
It's a nerf for you

You need off burst damage from mod on that stage 
Go cry
Crown Liter Alice Red Cindy

oh C27, replace Liter with D

That's definitely worse

all I can see is anis butt
609 (water weak 2-3-2 bronchus)
674 (electric weak 2-3-2 Bronchus) triple eletric
@lavish bridge @modest nest
triple dps meta
674 can be cleared at 1b060
ish
ill try when i get home
yeah
no
Fix them 
new bugs?
no
old bug not fully fixed
still struggles to hit core at close range at some angles
and when targets are moving
but it's better than before
or it could just be how she originally launched
but with the missing moving target bug patched
not sure how well the initial version core hitted
Is Cindy CC accidental activation fixed?
Wait, did I read correctly that radius/speed got reverted? 
she should be good in campaign now
S=>SS

her normal attack kinda stonk now for rapture wave
so Cinderella was strong enough to be S tier in campaign without being able to hit anything
She is better than before, but still
bugs made her unreliable, now she is better reliable, though not fully.
Against bosses, those that stay at one spot or less moving, Cinder have easier time to deal with them (unless they approaches at close range)
so she doesn't need rogue or sanis 
eletcric slowly taking back their rightful place 
any chance exia has a spot in cindy's raid team
or is she actually just benched now

would she have a chance if you use crown in a different team
Better than Cindy Ein Sanis?
Whats the dmg comparison between Ein and T.Exia 
u think is good for non electric stages ?
shes really comfy in chapter 28 for me.
i havent try to use her in non electric stages yet
me too so im not sure on that
her normal attack didnt even change
what deficit
it hits better now
35%
damn same as me
4ele,3attack,2 crit rate , 0 ammo , 1 ele is the lowest tier of blue line
also, what team 
lowest tier of blue line is so misleading 
tier 12
Yeah which is like 24% ele
Hmm, I briefly scrolled through the discussion today but didn't see much. I assume there are no changes to how Cind is in arena?
Rh b1, crown alice/modernia, naga
ill try it out
Big case for her in stage is when u nuke with her, its strong, it should target specific tanky enemies at right time. Thats what i feel so far even on electric weakness stage 
i dont think she got the dawg in her for campaign tho
ye i agree with that
i alrdy showcase that with bugged cindy
https://youtu.be/m3bIjNd2eGg?si=J9tPeou4U3V0BHDo
this one where she nuked the shit out of those 3 farter
rip finger
Cinderella: 74.61% ele
Ein: 25.74% atk
S.Anis: 66.82% ele, 6.88% atk
Oh this is a good one
1s remaining clear 
Very specific situation that it either come or we have to create it
Im doing 30% with her
But still in electric zone
Grave there for pierce

just pass the fart first then look at decifit again nerd

H34-38: C7(mainly for cp abuse) DPS endgame OL 25% decifit (~1b230+) Floor is 521 look like
https://youtu.be/GsQ7paHVerA?si=uON1CEaRnp9zmqUe&t=131
https://youtu.be/Qx0wB1eeaNM?si=xgmwV15_VZ7r3RxA
Cube: Reload Lv14
Cinderella: EDD 88.62, ATK 0, SR15
Summer Anis: EDD 91.43, ATK 0, SR5
00:00 OL Info
00:31 Behemoth 34-38H
#nikke
Since this comp has heal too and Cinderella lost her feature projectile ls hitting flying glass from MC =>more mald for Ein comp, rotate rocks into Cindy-Sanis only seem is the best way from Chap28 to Chapter34
But Cinderella need high atk to bypass MC at c32
any significant damage increase if i lvl up my rouge s2 and burst to lvl 7? currently at lvl 4
Cindy can't kill slippers in AI, sometimes in campaign she fails the attack

10/4/4 take or leave
Niche boss unit
5 wall stages all electric weak

Gimme scarlet, i need her for collection purpose
Cinderella Expect OL Line
4x Element Damage
4x Atk
4x Ammo
Reason:
First thing first, Cinderella's RL mechanics very new, Also She a got 24 Ammo as basic Ammo, But She Can't Extend the Ammo by her Skill, Not like Winter Ludmilla.
Also Her Mechanic was when Fulled Charged, She will shooting Like Red Hood Auto Shot.
A lot of Player ask, Why Not at least 1 Charge Dmg for Cinderella? Well, Let me ask, More Ammo for More Dmg or Less Ammo but High Dmg?
Example:
Basic:
100% (Atk) X 24 (Ammo) = 2400 Dmg in total
With OL but in 2 type:
4x Ammo:
100% (Atk) X 86 (4x Ammo 64.82%) = 8600 Dmg Total
3x Ammo & 1 Charge Dmg:
[100% (Atk) + 11.92% (1x Charge Dmg on Basic Atk)] X 70 (3x Ammo 64.82%) = 7834 Dmg Total
Summarise:
More Ammo For her, Also About cube, I only Prefer Bastion Cube for her, Just Make her Nonstop Shooting, Or you will need a wasting DPS 2 seconds extra Dmg
this true ? wasnt I reading some accuracy problems in some situations still ?
No more
Same issue as The Accuracy
yes , I mean that after yesterday maintenance I entered this channel and people said she still missed sometimes
Oh???
What did I just missed????
just go up to the time the patch was over
idk maybe it was early testing that was wrong ?
4 ammo lines = 4 times the dmg 

don't you know when you reload she dies on the spot?
gotta get as many bullets as you can before she reloads

@toxic wren
666 
Blue Eyes White Cinderella 
Exia deal half dmg of SAnis 
The power gap is insane tbh
My Exia is dog water
This is the only unit since release (other than SW and Alice) that has made it worth it to make a team funneling all support into one unit
JP boutta get under 15 min URs frfr
If this one exist for whole battle then Mast might have a chance
are you trolling 
Yeah he is
Mast shenanigans 
It's funny seeing Cindy deal zero damage in event stages cuz allies kill everything before Cindy's arcing missiles can hit anything 
Lol cindy auto has more accuracy in near attacks than manual synch cursor off

Nah Imma stop using this unit for now
My Bscar too good at event stages
Idk if anyone is better
Mgs take too long to move to target
NGL I'll change her pepega accuracy for her double dmg in burst
is not like her burst needed a buff, is more like her weapon
but anyway

My max core RH vs +2 MLB Cindy, surprised at her damage ngl
Cindy hits like a cinderblock
Like a truck made from cinderblocks
Like cinderblocks made from trucks
EAT SHIT CC!!
We don’t know. If it were to happen then it would most likely be for New Years.
Should I always be placing Cindy as my second B3, so she has more time to build beauty stacks before she bursts?
nah just burst first
she's doing so much more damage than your next best elec nikke it doesn't matter
Lol
Rip my poor OG Scarlet

Actually probably Ein instead, Scarlet doesn't need to burst at all does she
People doing ❌ on cindy's vote for (skip)
bwuh
Trolls. Pay them no mind.
ofc snake is skipping cindy
skip, not as meta breaking as rh

ic ic, I'll refund my pulls and save for RH 2
Also, I used Cinders on CC and she can safely hit both horns now without hitting skill circle in a progress
Cc unit now
is mirror container supposed to be invincible to all but electric units?
I don't quite get the gimmick
When it puts up the shield, it gets crazy high defence
so units deal very little damage
Electric units, which are strong against it, need to destroy the large pillars that jut out of the side with a single shot
each one destroyed lessens its defence
ahh okay, but only when it "opens" right?
Yup
Gotta be careful not to let your AIs hit it
cuz a single hit will then make it immune to damage afterward
oh i see, so if anis were to tap it, it only goes like to 50% hp
You have literally one shot
Cindy good for this? She did ~2bil damage overall but idk if she can one shot
Ein and Rouge are the best units for it; not sure how well Cindy fairs since a lot of her damage is on the additional damage proc
/sigh my Cinderella is at 10/7/10, but I think I need to reset her in order to get my SG team off the ground
yeah, okay so I need to get my ein up to snuff
I haven't tested Cindy myself; I have 80% element on her, but ATK is non-existent
I'll let you know, I'm at 93% element and ~18% attack
she's not safe for the circles though
cindy direct hit didn't kill it
I can get to about 80% to 7 with the S.anis team just ignoring them beyond gentle taps
do you guys think overall that ele is still higher value than atk?
I am kinda out of place, is cindy a perfect pick for container?
uh, she's a monster and she's on element so she does a LOT of damage
I did some rough maths assuming 90% total atk buff cindy, and a +10% atk is a 3% dmg gain
50% atk can allow you to deal 10k dmg instead of 1
while going from 70% total ele to 90% total ele is 11% dmg gain
She did just over 2bil while ignoring all the mechanics
I probably need to juice up Ein tbh
most of the chapters later are electric-weak tbf
who forunately I just got
Isnt her hp to atk conversion worth lile +136% atk buff?






























